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Why ELSE would an innocent man settle? Because of LISA-MARIA PRESLEY

March 15, 2010

Sept. 1994 for 'Ebony'

Michael Jackson and Lisa-Maria Presley fell in love with each other several months before the civil settlement with the Chandlers in January 1994.  Little is known of the fact that Lisa-Maria was very much in favor of ending the matter with a pay out.

As the molestation  accusations became public, Michael became dependent on Lisa Marie for emotional support.  She was concerned about his faltering health and addiction to drugs and tried to persuade  him to settle the allegations out of court and go into rehabilitation to recover. He subsequently did both.

R.Taraborelli:

“Unbeknownst to even Michael’s attorneys, Lisa Marie Presley had also tried to influence his decision to settle. A seasoned survivor of many publicity wars, she had long through that Michael should end the matter with a cash pay out. She was finally able to convince him that, as she later put it, “some things, like a good night’s sleep, are more important than public opinion.” He wanted to get on with his life, Michael said, so that he could finally marry Lisa.  Not much movement had occurred in their relationship since his odd proposal to her on the telephone, and he was afraid that she was becoming impatient with him. “The only thing I got out of therapy is that it’s my responsibility to have a good life,” he said, “and maybe I can have that with Lisa. I don’t want to lose her now.”

Below you will find an incredibly detailed research made by La Cienega at http://lacienegasmiled.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/1993-1998-lisa-marie-presley/ which provides full information on Michael and Lisa-Maria’s relationship in the period 1993-1998 and up to 2009.

This is only a short excerpt from her blog about Michael’s and Lisa’s love budding sometime in 1992/93 and flourishing into a full-time love affair in January 1994 (while their wedding was in May 1994 only). Though their marriage was somewhat unexpected for the general public it didn’t look that sudden to the ‘insiders’ who could see their romance developing in front of their eyes.

But first let me give you some idea of the events which formed a unique BACKGROUND for the unique relationship of this man and woman:

- THE CHANDLERS’ camp met Michael in May 1992 when his car broke down near their work-place. Michael was asked by Jordan’s stepfather to telephone the boy in return for a free provision of a rented car and Michael did call Jordan several times while being on a tour. They met again only in February 1993.  Jordan went to Neverland and other places together with his mother, sister and Michael in March-April, 1993.  The ‘bad things’ allegedly happened in May-June and were over by July 1993. The accusations were made on August 17 and the media went wild on August 23, 1993. The financial settlement was reached in January 1994.

- LISA-MARIA PRESLEY was still married to her first husband Danny Keough at the time (they married on Oct.3, 1988).  Her second child Benjamin was born on October 21, 1992. When Lisa-Maria met Michael ‘things moved very quickly.  They stayed on the phone every day. In April 1994 Presley announced that she and Keough were separating but would remain on good terms for their children’s sake. Later that month she flew to the Dominican Republic to get a quick divorce which was finalized on May 8, 1994.  Some two and a half weeks after the divorce she married Michael Jackson on May 26, 1994.

- in the same period MICHAEL JACKSON was preparing for the first 45 shows of his Dangerous tour (June 27 - December 31, 1992).  He gave an interview to Oprah Winfrey’s on February 10, 1993 where he talked of his vitiligo for the first time. On March 9 Michael sprained his ankle whereupon he walked on crutches and sang sittting in a chair. On May 5 he and Lisa Maria Presley attended a Kids celebration at OMNI.  On May 9-12 Michael took Jordan, Lily and their mother June Chandler to Monaco to attend the World Music Awards Ceremony. The 2nd leg of his Dangerous tour started on August 24, 1993 (the next day after the media hue and cry began) and lasted until November 11, 1993 when the remaining shows were cancelled and Michael went to Europe for treatment against his dependence on painkillers. On December 10, 1993 he returned to the USA and was subjected to a horrifying strip search on Dec. 20. He made his statement via satellite on December 22, 1993 saying he was completely innocent.

I wonder if Tom Sneddon meant the humiliation of a strip search to be a special Christmas present for Michael or did it just happen this way? Well, despite the high expectations of the search it brought the prosecution nowhere –  on January 27, 1994 , the next day after settling the case with the Chandlers the Reuters press agency reported that Jordan’s description of Michael’s genitalia was not accurate. Everyone was so excited with the millions the Chandlers received that no one paid attention to the poorly-publicized fact that there was actually nothing to pay for.

It is completely understandable that with the beginning of the new 1994 year Michael was yearning for the Chandler ordeal to come to an end and hoping to start his life anew with the girl he loved. Their love affair was in full swing as now she was staying by him day and night…

Read the story which started as a business relationship, turned into a friendship and flourished into love:

HAPPY...

LMP, Deseret News – Oct 11, 1992
Another Presley – Elvis’ daughter Lisa Marie – is developing a singing voice in the hopes of starting a music career. She has been singing and writing her own material for demo records.

Excerpt from “Child Bride” by Suzanne Finstad:
November 1992, LMP and MJ meet at Brett Livingstone’s house:
He had become a successful artist, famous for a million-dollar portrait he had painted of Michael Jackson, who had become his personal friend. Brett, the great connector, considered introducing Lisa to Michael. “She had the talent as well as the beauty and the name, so I thought Wow! The sky is the limit. What an image! I had known Michael for six years or more, and I thought maybe I could introduce Lisa to Michael Jackson. I thought, Hey, the person to get is Michael Jackson, because he’s an artist, instead of dealing with businessmen who would just categorize her and work her way up.” Michael had a new record label, Brett knew, and was looking for exciting, undiscovered talent. Who better than Lisa Marie Presley? “I didn’t discuss this with anyone,” said Brett. “I just thought about it and went about my business and thought that sometime in the future Lisa would like to have a conversation with Michael. Lisa wanted to emerge a full-blown star, and Michael Jackson, Brett believed, could help her.
Several months after the idea occurred to him, Brett telephoned Lisa, who was taking courses at the Scientology center in Clearwater, Florida. He said, “Lisa, if you’re really serious about your career, why don’t I put you in touch with Michael Jackson?….I think you should meet him and play your music and sing for him, and I think he could really encourage and inspire you on a direction you could take.” Brett told her that Michael had his own company, Nation Records, sponsored by Sony, and that he could “really launch her big time.” Lisa was intrigued.

Brett’s next step was to telephone Michael Jackson. “I said, ‘Michael, what would you say if I found talent for you that had the potential to be number one in the world in the recording industry—beautiful girl, great voice and also a reputation that would be a public relations dream come true?’ and he said, ‘Who are you talking about?’ So I said, ‘Lisa Presley.’ And he said, ‘What? She can’t sing!’ and I said, ‘She can.’ And then I asked, ‘Have you ever met Lisa?’ and he said no.” The conversation, recalled Brett, was brief, followed by lots of other conversations about it. Michael was “amazed at first, and then said, ‘Well get her to send me a tape.’ ”
At the time, neither Michael nor Lisa recalled their fleeting meeting introduction backstage, at the Sahara Tahoe when Lisa was six and Michael was sixteen. Lisa’s close childhood friend Myrna Smith, who was with Jerry and Joe Esposito when they took Lisa to that long-ago concert, confirmed this. “Lisa didn’t even remember meeting Michael as a child,” Myrna said. “She asked me, ‘Did I ever meet Michael Jackson?’ and I said, ‘Don’t you remember? We took you to see the Jacksons.’ ”

When Brett told Lisa about his conversation with Michael, she was offended that she would have to send a demo. She told Brett, “Forget it, I’ll play the tape for him in person.” Lisa called Brett constantly afterward, inquiring about the meeting with Michael. She told Myrna excitedly that Brett had arranged to have Michael and her get together at his house in Pacific Palisades and for Lisa to play her demo tape.
Lisa took her husband Danny, along to that meeting, and the group gathered in Brett’s living room. “Michael…was blown away by her music,” according to Brett. “She played the tape and was really excited that Michael Jackson was here, and at that point, she looked like a fan of his. And he was really tickled to see that she had a lot of potential, but he didn’t think too much more than ‘Wow, Brett is onto something here.’ ” There was, according to Brett, not even the slightest suggestion of anything romantic between Lisa and Michael at that meeting. “Her husband was here.”

Michael carried on with his own career interests after that meeting, but Lisa, recalled Brett, “kept calling me after that. Constantly calling me. And she wanted to get together with Michael more.” Lisa met with Brett a few times to talk about it, remarking that she had “a few things in common with the Jacksons and maybe she should pursue a friendship with Michael.” Brett, still their intermediary, offered to represent Lisa in a business contract with Michael for a recording deal, even though he had an art partnership with Michael and had been his friend for years. Brett had worked up some figures and talked to Michael, who arranged for Brett to take Lisa to meet with Michael Greenberg, the head of Jackson’s company, Nation Records in Santa Monica.

Lisa brought Danny along with her attorney, John Coale. “I didn’t know anything about that business,” said Brett, “but I wanted to make sure that Lisa made a deal at the top level…by saying, ‘Hey, Elvis is the King and she’s the Princess. She’s got the talent. All she needs is Michael to help record at the highest possible level and help her choose the songs and teach her some presence on stage. I was trying to get Michael to…make a deal with Lisa at the top—the deal that the other recording companies were making with Madonna and Barbara Streisand. And he was like, ‘Are you crazy? They have proven themselves.’
And I said, ‘No, make the same deal; a deal over a period of time…based on performance as the records sell. And not only will you make the deal with Lisa, you’ll promote the company.’ And I knew that’s what Lisa would love, if she was put on a pedestal.”

Lisa’s uncle, Larry King, (aired April 16, 2005)
GARY HOVEY, UNCLE: She went to meet with record people, with a manager, and the deal was just about set. She didn’t do the deal because she became pregnant with Ben, her second child, so it all got put on hold a year or two later, whenever she became interested in singing again, which happened to coincide with the time she met with Michael.
ZAHN: Five years into Lisa’s marriage to Danny Keogh, the relationship was buckling. It was during this time that a fledgling friendship with Michael Jackson began to evolve.

“Magic and Madness,” JRandy, Lisa Marie, November 1992
“I always liked him,” Lisa Marie recalled. “Michael fascinated me with his talent. I loved watching him dance. He wanted to know me better, but I always thought he was sort of freakish. I didn’t really want to know him any better than I already did.”
At this time, Lisa had recorded four songs produced by her husband. She felt she had a lot to say about her unusual life as daughter of an icon, and she was looking for a way to say it through her lyrics and music. “I had a voice,” she once told me, in retrospect, “but I didn’t have the experience. Things always got too wild when people found out that Elvis’s daughter wanted to sing. It became a matter of deals and money, money, money: I lost my fire for it. I lost the urge to create. I was scared, I guess, so I pulled back.”
She had no confidence in herself as a vocalist,” Said Brett Livingstone Stone. “She was afraid of being compared to Elvis, afraid of rejection. When I suggested Michael could help her, she said, “He’s a superstar, do you really think he’d help me?” After dinner at my house, Lisa played tapes of some of her music, and Michael was blown away. He told her, “You have real talent… a fine voice. You could be a star. Let me see what I can do for you.”
As she sat with him and listened to stories about his life in the business, she found herself falling under his spell. According to Brett Livingstone, when Michael was about to leave, he offered Lisa a penetrating look and in a conspiratorial voice said, “You and me, we could get into a lot of trouble. Think about that, girl.”

San Jose Mercury News , Nov 23, 1992
New once-again mom Lisa Marie Presley, 24, is said to be working on her debut album.

Excerpt from Child Bride, February 1, 1993
Lisa was torn. Part of her was in “turmoil,” recalled Brett, “on her mind was ‘I have my kids,’ and she was in turmoil with her husband and what should she do? If she wanted to be a star, she had to really want to live and breathe that.”
Michael Jackson also advised Lisa similarly: If she wanted to pursue a singing career, she would have to dedicate herself to it. During the following weeks, Brett found herself the hapless man in the middle, caught between a balking and busy Michael, and an ambivalent yet driven Lisa.
Brett made arrangements for Lisa to visit Michael in Japan while he was on the tour for Dangerous, and tried to facilitate other plans, some of which occurred while others dissipated. According to Brett, Lisa was, “in relentless pursuit of Michael Jackson,” and phoned [Brett] constantly to find out whether the deal would occur.
Michael, in Brett’s characterization, was obviously intrigued by the thought of signing Lisa Presley, “but there was more desire on Lisa’s part for something to happen.” Lisa, he recalled, finally said to him, “It doesn’t seem like I can make that deal with him, and I don’t want to push him too much.”
Brett, who was still hoping to bring them together for a record deal, finally arranged for a representative from Michael’s office to send a formal letter to Lisa stating that Michael was still interested in keeping things going. At the same time, Prince also began pursuing Lisa to sign a recording contract.
Lisa celebrated her twenty-fifth birthday with a huge party, planned by Priscilla, at Six Flags Magic Mountain. Prince was among the guests, along with a sprinkling of celebrity Scientologists such as Kirstie Alley, Nicole Kidman, and Juliette Lewis. Lisa invited Michael Jackson as her special guest, “and he would have loved to have gone,” said Brett, “but he had other things.” Brett suggested to Michael that he should at least send Lisa a birthday gift, “so he told me, ‘Well you go get it!’ ” Brett selected, as Michael’s gift to Lisa, an art book on Michelangelo and a silver picture frame in which he placed a photograph of Michael and Lisa’s original meeting in his living room.
Brett, attempting to be gallant on Michael’s behalf, wrote sweet birthday inscriptions in the art book and on the birthday card, making them appear to be from Michael. “I was just trying to be a good friend for him,” said Brett. “I went to the party with my son Jason, and when I got there, Lisa was like, ‘Oh! Where’s Michael? I hope it’s all right that Prince is here.’ I said, ‘Michael just couldn’t make it, but here is a gift from him.’ And I didn’t say anything [else].” Lisa, he recalled, “latched onto the gifts excitedly and immediately opened them to check them out.”
He later figured out, said Brett, that he had inadvertently played matchmaker to Michael and Lisa by buying the birthday gifts, for Lisa, seeing the card and the inscription in the art book, both of which she believed to have been written by Michael, misinterpreted Brett’s affectionate words as an indication that Michael Jackson had feelings for her. “I wasn’t trying to bring two people together to get married. I look back on it now as a sign that [she was thinking], Wow! He really cares about me. And she secretly wanted a relationship with him, because I always talked about him as a passionate man [who was] extremely loving…and that attracted Lisa, that loving part, and loving children.”
Lisa never knew that Brett wrote the birthday card and signed her book. “I can’t recall what I wrote exactly in the book or card,” said Brett, “but that might have been something she read over and over again and thought, Jeez! And afterwards, Lisa kept calling me, and eventually, after the many calls and pursuits and my little bit of fairy dust that I sprinkled about the place, hey, those guys [got] together, and I thought, ‘Maybe they’ll record something,’
And I remember Lisa saying, ‘Brett, what do you want out of this?’ and Michael Jackson asked me the same thing, and I thought, ‘Boy, there must be something happening here.’

Pittsburg Post Gazette, 23 Feb 1993
Lisa Marie Presley, only daughter of Elvis, has decided to embark on a singing career. It’s all tentative, but this week’s People magazine says that Presley – who looks a powerful lot like her cultural icon daddy – has recorded four demon tapes produced by her husband, musician Danny Keough. Her tastes run to rock and R&B, and a friend says she sounds a lot like a black Bonnie Raitt.” Mercy. But don’t get too hepped up: Presley, the mother of two children, won’t do anything too mondo until her 4 month old is a little bigger. However she continues to dye her blond hair black. Tell me that doesn’t mean something.

Anchorage Daily News, 24 February, 1993
“I’ve always had an ear for it, and I’ve always felt music,” the 25 year old daughter of Elvis and Priscilla tells People magazine. “I’ve been around it all my life. I definitely have it in me.”
“Dark hair really suits my personality,” she says. “I’m pretty aggressive and fiery. I don’t act like a blonde.”

“Child Bride,” Late February, 1993
In late February, a few weeks after her 25th birthday, Jerry Schilling received a mysterious phone call from Lisa. “Something is going on,” she told Jerry, “but I can’t tell you what. And it has nothing to do with you, but I’m not going to continue with this record contract right now.”
Lisa told him, said Jerry, that she was busy with her new baby and wanted to put the Epic deal on hold. Jerry, who had no idea Lisa had even met with Michael Jackson, simply said fine and puzzled over what might be happening in Lisa’s life.
Mike Edwards, who had also remained close to Brett after his breakup with Priscilla, began getting phone calls from an amazed Brett about this time. “He’s saying, ‘Gosh, Lisa’s calling me and Lisa’s really interested in Michael!’ ” Brett’s impression, said Mike Edwards, was that Michael was absorbed in his work, but that Lisa was really interested in him. “And I said, ‘Come on! What do you mean?’ [Brett] said, ‘You haven’t met him, but he’s very charismatic.’ And I said, ‘Yeah, but I can’t believe it.’ He said, ‘Yeah, she’s kind of pursuing him.’ And I went, ‘My God! What’s gonna happen?’”
“I could see that Lisa fell in love with him,” confirmed Brett. What attracted her in part, he felt, was that Michael was not after her money. “I think she didn’t know him very well, though. She didn’t know his quirks and eccentric lifestyle, and she thought, This guy is going to be great. A stepfather for my kids.”
Lisa, according to Brett, was the one who was in pursuit. “I think it was the passion of a woman who fell in love. And Michael wasn’t even interested at all. And he is a gentleman, he wouldn’t have wanted to pull her away from her marriage to Danny. And she pursued him.
Family friend Bob Wall, who heard about it after the fact, confirmed this. “I know that Lisa is the one who pursued the relationship.” She did it, Bob felt, to create an identity separate from the Presley name, to be known as something other than “the daughter of.” “Lisa really wants to be credible,” said Bob. “You’ve got her father, who’s a genius. Her mother’s done incredibly well. And all she’s got is a lot of money. So maybe that’s important to her, to create her own identity.”

Excerpt Child Bride, Around March 21st, 1993
Brett, seeing the progression of the friendship, suggested that Michael take Lisa to the Oscar ceremony that March, just as he had escorted Madonna the year before, but Michael balked, since Lisa was a married woman. The relationship intensified on Michael’s part that fall however, after 13 year-old Jordan Chandler accused him of child molestation, causing a scandal to erupt worldwide. Later, Michael would quietly escort Lisa to the Jackson Family Honors.

Lisa, who was then spending time with Myrna Smith, a childhood friend who used to sing with Lisa when Lisa was a child, told Myrna about her secret romance with Michael Jackson. Myrna perceived that Lisa felt sorry for Michael because of the sexual molestation charges and the devastating effect the scandal had had on his career and his image. Myrna also believed Lisa had sincere feelings for Michael. “Yes, she did, according to what she told me.  She did.  She’s like her father—they like the underdog…she did it for her own reasons, but she didn’t do it because Michael coerced her. She genuinely cared about him and she thought he cared for her.”

Myrna, who knew and knew of Michael through music circles, tried to warn Lisa about the relationship, which she considered both dangerous and absurd. “I can only guess what his motives were, and I could only tell what I thought, what a smart businessman he was, and that he was only pursuing her for what she could do for him, and that he wasn’t interested in women.

And she told me he was.” Lisa did not tell Myrna whether she and Michael had sex, though Brett believed they did. “Yeah, sure, I think, because of what happened. I didn’t want to ask any questions. I could have asked Lisa the nitty-gritty.”

May 5, 1993
Michael is invited by ex president Jimmy Carter to Atlanta in order to boost the Atlanta Immunisation Drive. Afterwards, Michael joins Ted Turner, Jane Fonda, Emmanuel Lewis & Lisa Marie Presley in the front row during the Kids Celebration at OMNI.

March 1993, a year before their marriage

JRandy on Lisa Marie, Mid 1993
He truly was misunderstood, he told her. “I know you think I’m gay,” he said. “But I’m not. I get tired of people thinking I am gay. But, oh well, fuck them. I know you’ve heard a lot of things about me, in fact, he continued, but most of it isn’t true. And that stuff that is true, you shouldn’t hold against me.” He winked at her.
“Hey, I’m a married woman,” Lisa said. “And you’re coming on to me.”
“Yes, but are you happy?” Michael asked.
“No.”
“See?” Michael remarked. “I knew that. You look like a woman who needs to let go and have some fun. You look like a woman who needs to hook up with me.”
Lisa recalled, “I thought to myself, Wow, this is a real guy. He swears. He’s funny. I told him, ‘Dude, if people knew who the hell you really are, they would be so surprised. People wouldn’t think I was so crazy for being into you if they saw who you really are; that you sit around and you drink and you curse and you’re fucking funny, and you have a bad mouth and you don’t have that high voice all the time.’”

JRandy on Lisa Marie, August, 1993
“I was in on the beginning of the molestation stuff, and I was getting the phone calls, and he was telling me that it was extortion,” she recalled. “I believed him at the time. I mean, I was convinced. He was freaking out. I believe that he didn’t do anything wrong, and that he was being wrongly accused and yes, I started falling for him. I wanted to save him. I felt that I could do it.”

JRandy, Michael’s addiction to painkillers, September, 1993
When Michael telephoned Lisa from overseas in September 1993, he was high, incoherent and delusional. Alarmed, Lisa attempted to convince Michael to do as she had once done, enter a rehabilitation centre.
“Absolutely, I felt that I had a responsibility to save him,” she said. “I don’t know the psychology of it and what it had to with my father. I only know what I felt.”

November 12, 1993
Michael announces he is cancelling his world tour to seek treatment for an addiction to painkillers.

JRandy, November/December, 1993
Michael decided to calm himself by calling the one person who could somehow help him forget that his career hung in the balance: Lisa.
She had certainly been persistent in her pursuit of him. She left telephone numbers for a house she was renting in Canoga Park, California.
She also left the number of the new three acre estate which had just purchased and was getting ready to occupy on Long Valley Road in Hidden Hills.
Then, just to be sure, she left the number where she could be reached in Clearwater, Florida, where she was planning to spend time at the Scientology retreat. She even sent him party balloons with messages attached. Somehow, she could always put a smile back on his face, even if it was just her raspy voice proclaiming, “Oh, fuck them!” He found her in Canoga Park.
Michael valued Lisa’s settling effect on him, so much so that during his phone conversation, he posed a question that surprised both of them. “If I asked you to marry me, would you do it?” Was this a joke? A hypothetical? Or was it a dare for Lisa to take him seriously? If it was a dare, Lisa was the woman to take it – even though she was still married to Danny Keough. Without missing a beat, she replied, “I would do it.” Michael didn’t say a word, at first. He then said, “Hold on, I have to use the bathroom.”
When he finally did speak into the phone again, he was speaking to his new fiancée. “My love for you is real,” Michael told Lisa. “Please, believe me.”
Unbeknownst to even Michael’s attorneys, Lisa Marie Presley had also tried to influence his decision to settle. A seasoned survivor of many publicity wars, she had long through that Michael should end the matter with a cash pay out. She was finally able to convince him that, as she later put it, “some things, like a good night’s sleep, are more important than public opinion.”
He wanted to get on with his life, Michael said, so that he could finally marry Lisa. Not much movement had occurred in their relationship since his odd proposal to her on the telephone, and he was afraid that she was becoming impatient with him. “The only thing I got out of therapy is that it’s my responsibility to have a good life,” he said, “and maybe I can have that with Lisa. I don’t want to lose her now.”

December 10, 1993
Michael returns from Europe to Neverland.

Excerpt Child Bride, Christmas 1993
By Christmas 1993, Lisa was discussing with Myrna the possibility of marrying Michael Jackson. “He told her,” said Myrna, “that she was the only woman he could see himself marrying. And I was like, ‘You gotta be kidding.’ ” Myrna recalled that Lisa responded, “Myrna, you don’t understand.”

JRandy, January 1994,
One of his closest advisers says: “Michael was living full time at Neverland Ranch. And all of a sudden, here comes Lisa Marie on the stairs in a bathrobe. We thought, “Well, hey, what’s up here? She spent the night up there? With Michael? And then here comes Michael down the stairs in his Mickey Mouse pajamas with a big grin on his face. The two were lovey dovey at breakfast and she hasn’t left his side since then. “

According to staff at Neverland, they knew things were serious when Lisa Marie began ordering around the servants. “Michael started talking about his “girlfriend” Lisa Marie. And she was around all the time,” said one.

“No woman has ever given orders to Michael’s servants, except for Elizabeth Taylor – and even she checks with Michael first before she asks for a Diet Coke.”
He was kissing her fairly passionately and, from many accounts, in public places. He seemed to enjoy doing it, too.

“I’m not a woman who goes for the norm, anyway,” Lisa said in explaining her attraction to him. “I like strange guys, the ones on the edge, the ones with an edge, the ones with fire in their bellies. That was Michael, to me.”

“Apparently, Michael Jackson is a freak in bed,” said Lisa’s friend Monica Pastelle. “Lisa said he was amazing, and she’s been around. Everyone was saying, ‘No way, Lisa. It can’t be true. Michael Jackson? Are we talking about the Michael Jackson, the one with the glove?’” However, she wasn’t joking, and it wasn’t long before she didn’t think it was funny, either.”
“He liked her to wear jewelry in bed. They were into role playing games, though Lisa would never say who was playing what kind of role.”

When Lisa didn’t become immediately pregnant, even before they were married, he began to express his disappointment. “I want children,” he said, “and I thought we would be expecting one within a couple of weeks of making love. But Lisa says it takes time. I don’t have time,” he said. “I want it to happen, now. I want children so badly.”

David Foster’s memoir Hit Man, sometime early 1994
Michael was also interesting to hang out with. The better I got to know him, the more elusive he seemed. One moment, in a little-boy voice, he would curse the head of Sony Music. “That Tommy Mottola is a mean person,” he’d say, sounding like a six-year-old. In the studio, he’d be a pro, a regular guy, and we really connected. (He struck me as Frank Sinatra and Gene Kelly rolled into one). And with Lisa Marie Presley, whom he was dating at the time, he would be somebody else entirely.

My kids were visiting from Los Angeles – three of my daughters and [my then-wife] Linda’s two sons – and one night they decided they wanted to go to the movies. We were staying at the Plaza Hotel, and Michael rented me a magnificent suite – on a low floor – that must have had six bedrooms. It was a palace, a lot better than the Zen-like concrete bunker at the Delano.

“I can’t go to the movies,” Michael said. We all knew what he meant: He couldn’t go out in public without creating a ****-storm among the paparazzi. And one of the kids said, “We can dress you up and disguise you.”

And that’s what they did. They got in an elevator and went down to his suite and dressed him up in their own clothes. They put a scarf on him, and some jeans, and they tucked his hair under a cap and turned it to the side, gangster-style.

We had the valet bring the van around, and we piled in without incident. There were some paparazzi out front, but they must have looked at us and figured we were nobodies. And it was very interesting, because Michael and Lisa Marie got separated when everyone scrambled into the van, and it was clear that he wanted her to sit next to him. On the way to the movie theater, he turned to her and said, “Lisa, here. Come here. Sit here.” He said it just like a regular man, not in that little-boy voice of his. It was like, You’re going to sit with me, woman, and she did. I was very impressed, but I was also confused. I mean, who was this guy?

Maybe she brought out the testosterone in him. I don’t know. But I do know this: she loved him. And that relationship became one of the biggest tabloid nightmares of all time.

JRandy, 1 February, 1994
On 1 February 1994, Michael telephoned Lisa Marie Presley at her estate in Hidden Hills, California. He was at his hide out in Westwood. “Hey, listen up, girl,” he said, according to her memory, “I’m heading up to Las Vegas to see The Temptations and The Fifth Dimension. Come with me. I’ll get us a suite at the Mirage and we can party like there’s no tomorrow.”
“Am I staying in the suite with you?” she asked.
“Hell, yeah,” Michael said. “What do you think, girl?”
“I think I’m still married,” Lisa said.
“Then separate rooms, if that’s what you want,” Michael responded.

February 2, 1994
Michael attends a concert of The Temptations at the Sheraton Desert Inn of Las Vegas with his date Lisa Marie Presley.

JRandy:
Lisa agreed to go; the next day, the two flew up to Vegas in Michael’s private plane.
Otis Williams of The Temptations once told me, “Man, we were backstage after the show, and her comes Mike with this chick, and he’s all up in her face, kissing on her, and we were saying, “Who the heck is this girl?” Finally he introduced her: Lisa Marie Presley. You could have knocked me over with a feather. I said to the guys, “Check this out. The King of Pop and the King’s daughter, together. It had to happen. They looked pretty cozy.”
Two weeks later, Lisa accompanied Michael again to the MGM Grand in Las Vegas for his appearance on the Jackson Family Honors Special.

JRandy, 21 February, 1994
When they got back from Las Vegas, on 21 February, Michael invited Lisa to Neverland. The two spent hours walking hand in hand on the well manicured property, as Lisa’s children, played with their nanny. Workers at the estate recall seeing Michael and Lisa kissing while high atop the Ferris wheel, then nodding graciously to the Neverland staff members as they sauntered from one ride to the next.
For the first two days, Lisa and her children stayed in one of the visitors’ units on the property. On the third night, Michael ordered a dinner of poached salmon and cucumber salad to be served to him and Lisa on one of the candle lit terraces. Afterwards he presented Lisa with a gift: a three strand, pearl choker with a diamond clasp at the front, worth about $50,000. That evening, while her children and their nanny slept in the guest quarters, Lisa stayed with Michael in his bedroom.

New York City, Trump Tower, April 28, 1994
Michael accepts a Caring For Kids award during the Children Choice Awards at the City Center in New York City (where he rents a three bedroom suite at the Trump Tower )

JRandy:
Donald recalls seeing Michael and Lisa walking hand in hand on his estate, seeming lost in a mutual dream. In a photograph taken that day, Lisa was elegantly dressed in a severely tailored, black silk dress that fell in fluid lines around her shapely figure. Michael was wearing a sharp, black suit, scarlet- colored shirt and a matching tie. At one point, he dropped to one knee and kissed her hand. She urged him to is feet; the two embrace. Michael gazed at her intensely, mesmerized by her face. They kissed. He pulled from his vest pocket a small, wrapped box. When she opened it, Lisa’s face lit up. Pearls.
“It was romantic,” Donald Trump recalled, “Later, I asked Michael how things were going and he said “Great. I just got to kiss the most beautiful girl in the world. I hope I’m worthy of her. I think I might marry her.”
“For a while, those two were really getting it on.”
“They made love at the Trump estate,” said another one of Lisa’s confidantes. “She said it was intense, it took her breath away. I have no idea what they were doing, or what he was doing to her, but since she gravitates toward the unconventional, she was out of her mind over this guy. Maybe it’s hard for some to believe,” she concluded “but true, just the same.”

People Magazine on this:
Jackson, who is worth an estimated $100 million, and Presley, whose own fortune tops out at $100 million, have been seen together around New York City for at least six months. Lisa Marie, according to one source, is a regular visitor to Jackson’s duplex apartment in Trump Tower, just beneath Donald and Maria Trump’s triplex home. The romance first came to light early this year, about the time Jackson settled the civil suit filed by the child who had accused him of sexual molestation. Jackson was spotted dining with his friends the Trumps at Manhattan’s Le Cirque restaurant. Apropos of nothing, Jackson suddenly said, “You know what? I’m in love. Her name is Lisa.”
A few weeks later, when Trump invited his friend to visit his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla., Michael asked, “Can I bring my love interest?” Jackson spent the week with Lisa Marie and her two children, Benjamin Storm, 21 months, and Danielle, 5. She and Michael stayed in separate bedrooms but were otherwise inseparable and affectionate. They spent nearly every evening in a part of the mansion called the Grand Tower, looking at the stars, and left the house together just once. “They walked down Worth Avenue,” says one witness, “and caused a big commotion and came right back.”
April 29, 1994
Lisa Marie announces separation from her husband, Danny Keough.
May 8, 1994
Lisa Marie’s divorce to Danny Keough is finalized.
May 25, 1994
Michael & Lisa Marie Presley arrive at Casa de Campo de Campo in Domenican Republic .
May 26, 1994
Michael & Lisa Marie secretly marry in a 12 minutes ceremony only attended by Eva Darling & Linda’s ex brother in law, Thomas Keough (both Scientologists).

JRandy:
“When he nearly lost everything because of the allegations and the drug abuse, he was determined to set things straight,” recalled one of his associates. “He may have been in love with her, I don’t know. I think he was actually in love with what she represented: conformity and kids. Everyone who knew him felt it was too soon after rehab for him to be jumping into a marriage, especially since he’d never been married and had no idea what he was doing.”

Michael was deeply disappointed in the wedding ceremony, he later admitted. He’s a romantic. He’d always hoped for a grand, opulent and loving affair, like Jermaine’s wedding had been so many years earlier. It was significant to him that he one day have a ceremony to join him with someone he loved and to express his affection for that person before family and friends. Sure, he had romanticized the notion over the years, but so what? People have done so throughout the ages, and have seen those dreams become reality in their lives. Michael never imagined that he would run off and marry a person in secret, as if ashamed of his relationship.

That night, Elizabeth was with friends at the Polo Lounge in the Beverly Hills Hotel. When a reporter asked her if she would confirm rumors of Michael’s marriage, she snapped at him, “I am not in the business of clarifying rumors. Now, be gone!”
Even though Lisa was in love with Michael, she – not he – was the one with certain goals she hoped to achieve as a result of the marriage; chief among them was the realization of her musical career. “Michael told Lisa that he would attempt to get her a record deal at Sony,” says her friend, Monica Pastelle. “Yes, she loved him. She didn’t marry him because of the offer to help her career, but it was on the table as something he was going to work on for her.”

June 5, 1994
Michael takes Lisa Marie & her children Benjamin & Dannielle to Disneyworld in Florida .

Jun 20, 1994
We previously reported that Michael Jackson visited Palm Beach to look at potential East Coast retreats, including the since-sold blue-roofed Martino estate on North Ocean. Michael supposedly was the guest of Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago, but since then a couple of sources claim he actually stayed several weeks at a home near those of Mollie Wilmot and the Kennedys. A Palm Beach resident claims to have seen Michael walking the beach at 7 am.

July 11, 1994
Media learn about Michael & Lisa Marie ’s wedding.

JRandy:
Meanwhile, the two took a duplex apartment suite in Trump Tower in New York (directly below Donald Trump’s), while Michael began work on a new album.
One of his bodyguards remembered, “it was chaos with the media and fans suspecting the newlyweds were in the suite, but not able to confirm it.”

August 1, 1994
Lisa Marie confirms that she is indeed married to Michael.
“My married name is Mrs. Lisa Marie Presley-Jackson. My marriage to Michael Jackson took place in a private ceremony outside the United States [11] weeks ago. It was not formally announced until now for several reasons; foremost being that we are both very private people living in the glare of the public media. We both wanted a private marriage ceremony without the distraction of a media circus. I am very much in love with Michael, I dedicate my life to being his wife. I understand and support him. We both look forward to raising a family and living happy, healthy lives together. We hope friends and fans will understand and respect our privacy.”

August 5, 1994
Michael & Lisa Marie arrive in Budapest (Hungary) and make their first public appearance together causing a media frenzy.

August 6, 1994
Michael & Lisa Marie visit sick children at St Jude hospital and meet Bela Farkas, a little boy in need of a transplant. Moved by his story they decide to finance the operation that will save his life.

August 9, 1994
Michael & Lisa Marie fly back to New York where Michael resumes the recording of his new album.

Robmix on Gearsltuz:
I was there when Lisa Marie was around. They acted like two kids in love. Held hands all the time, and she hung out at the studio for quite a while. I never questioned their love for each other.

Brett Strong on how they met, ET – Aug 10, 1994
Brett Strong: They just fell head over heels in love and that love just grew and grew to the point where they just married.

ET’s John Tesh: Internationally renowed, Brett Livingstone Strong will now be known as Hollywoods hottest match maker. This Australian creator has made millions with his paintings and his sculpting. He has two National monuments now displayed in Washington, DC. and is currently working on his third, a tribute to our space program. And now he is the guy who bought two musical super powers to the altar.

Brett Strong: Obviously Lisa was not looking at Michael for his fame or looking at him for his success. She was purely looking at him because he is a true gentleman.

ET’s John Tesh: Strong is a long time friend of both. He originally talked the pop music icon to meet with Lisa to hear her sing.

Brett Strong: I told Michael what if I came up with and brought to you the best person on this planet who has not been exposed, and is beautiful. Michael’s reponse was “who the heck are you talking about. Who is it?.” I said Lisa Marie Presley. Michael’s response was “No! She can sing?” She is fantastic. Michael said “well Brett obviously I am interested. Can you get me a tape or something?”

ET’s John Tesh: Well Lisa did not want to send a tape. She wanted to perform in person. So Brett arranged a meeting at his house in November 1992 when this picture was taken of the three of them and Bretts’ son, Stason.

Brett Strong: In fact that was the day they first came together and where Lisa performed a couple of song’s for Michael. It was a fabulous experience, for I think both of them. And Michael really felt really honored. He was like “Wow! I am Lucky. You know.” And Lisa felt the same.

ET’s John Tesh: And it turns out that Michael loved more than just her singing. They ran off and got married. Brett said that Lisa did not even
tell her mother. And Brett said you can forget all the rumors you hear about why the couple married. This is the real deal.

Brett Strong: It is a purely a very simple story. It’s a love affair that grew from a friendship.

ET’s John Tesh: And here is the rest of the scoop. Brett Livingstone Strong tells ET thattrue love blossomed last year (Feb 93) when Priscilla Presley threw a birthday party. And Southern California Magic Mountain Amusement Park was rented for the ocassion. Michael sent Lisa a present. The picture of that famous night they met (Nov 92). And the rest is history.

August 20, 1994
Michael & Lisa Marie are on the cover of magazines around the world (Jet, Hello, Paris Match ect…) with exclusive pictures taken by photographer Dick Zimmerman.

Dick Zimmerman, Québécois magazine translation, Aug 1994
“A kind of magic emerges from this young couple. I really did not know what awaited me when I arrived, but what I saw made me think of the scene which two in love act as if they were alone in the world, in spite of the crowd which surrounds them. That only comes when two people are deeply enthusiastic about one another.

1994, photo by Dick Zimmerman

Like everyone, I had heard rumours which surrounded their marriage several weeks ago. But it was necessary that I see them with my own eyes to work out the depth and sincerity of their love. This love, neither could hide from me. It will be enough for you to realise it by looking at my photographs, especially those which I took of Lisa. There are attitudes which cannot be faked.

In fact, I did not even need to guide Michael and Lisa. I did not need, for example, to ask them to intertwine. They spontaneously did it and most naturally. I had to only say to them to place themselves at such or such a place, and the rest came naturally. They spoke to each other in a very soft tone, the tone of two people very much in love with one another.”

“It’s like when you see two people in the street who’re in love and act like there is no one else around them. I saw it with my own eyes.
If you look at the photographs, you’ll notice that there is something going on, especially with Lisa. I didn’t have to tell them to put their arms around each other, they just did it.

Having spent an entire day with them, I saw some magical things. They talked to each other very quietly like lovers would. For the first shot, I told them to stand close. They immediately put their arms around each other and Lisa cuddled right up to Michael. I told Lisa to sit in a chair and Michael to kneel beside her. He put his arm around her and pulled her head to his chest, while Lisa tenderly took hold of his hand.

Between shots, they were whispering and giggling to each other. They were so happy it was hard to keep their attention on the camera. They were so much into each other.
They are so happy with the photos. Michael put Xs over the ones he liked, and the pages of photos were covered with Xs. But the loving ones with Lisa, showing their happiness, were his favourites.”

JET, 22 August, 1994
September 2-6, 1994
Michael & Lisa Marie visit France (Nice, Cannes , Paris & Disneyland) and spend time with Prince Al Waleed who wants to launch a production company with Michael.



September 5th at Versailles: 

September 12, 1994
Michael & Lisa Marie open the MTV Video Music Awards Ceremony with a kiss.

JRandy:
“Afterward, they had a huge fight about it,” said Monica Pastelle. “Her whole thing was, “I told you no, and you just disregarded it.” But Michael thought it was great, a showstopper. He was all about the show, you know? What could they do that would cause headlines? That’s where his head was at. “But people will be talking about that kiss for decades,” he said. “Don’t you see? They’re gonna run that clip over and over.” Lisa was pissed off for days. “Don’t you fucking even come near me,” she told him.”

Michael, London Mirror, September 12, 1994
After his telephone proposal, once they were in LA together. “Lisa and I were in the living room [at Neverland] having a glass of wine,” he said. “We had just finished watching All About Eve, starring the Bette Davis. We both love that movie. I just walked over to her, reached into my pocket and pulled out this huge diamond ring. “So what do you think?” I asked her. “You want?” She screamed out, “Yes, yes yes.” I never even officially popped the question. We never actually discussed marriage. It just sort of happened.”
“This is not a hoax,” Michael insists, “I swear it’s not.”
“I want people to know that I wouldn’t marry someone just for publicity. That’s just not me. I love her. This is serious. I hope people believe it. If not, then, hey, too bad for them.”
Was Lisa pregnant, as had been reported? “No, that’s not true at all,” he sighs, “Lisa Marie is not pregnant.” But he admits: “Yes, we want to have children. Yes, we will have children.” Then he laughs: “Don’t rush me.”
There had been recent reports that Lisa had plastic surgery in an LA hospital, her breasts enlarged and liposuction on her hips, at Michael’s behest. It was preposterous, but I decided to ask him about it, anyway. “Ridiculous,” he told me. “Just try telling Lisa Marie what to do. It would never happen. I would not be able to convince her to do anything, let alone plastic surgery. The truth,” he said, “is that she had scar tissue removed from an appendectomy, and dermabrasion on her face to get rid of old acne scars.”
Did he and Lisa have a prenuptial agreement? “No way,” he said. “What kind of marriage would that be?”
“I love Lisa Marie. Why won’t people believe that? Why won’t the public let me be happy?”
Michael claims it was their similar tastes that drew them together. They love watching slapstick, screwball comedy films, like the Three Stooges and old movies, particularly ones starring Jackson’s great pal Liz Taylor.
They also share a love of animals.
“One of the things that most attracted me to Lisa is that she gets along well with the many animals in my zoo,” he says.
“Elizabeth Taylor for instance, is scared to death of all the animals, especially the horses. But Lisa Marie just loves them. It’s hard not to fall in love with a person who can relate to animals.”
Michael is astonished at the public scorn the announcement attracted. When he was told one of the reasons was because Lisa Marie’s press release only discussed her feelings for him, he was perplexed.
“Why should I have to explain how I feel about my wife in a press release?” he asked.
“The press release was Lisa Marie’s idea. She wanted to set the record straight. If it was up to me, I would have just said, “Let people think what they want.”
A final rumor Michael dismisses was the report that he and Lisa Marie will sing a duet on October 8 at a Tribute to Elvis Presley in Memphis. “But he adds, we’ll be together forever so there’s plenty of time to sing together.”

Ebony, October, 1994
Michael & Lisa Marie are on the cover of Ebony with an exclusive interview of Michael by Robert Johnson.

Jimmy Jam on working with Michael, October – December, 1994
Jam can talk about how cuddly Jackson is with his wife, Lisa Marie Presley. Jam can talk about how Jackson wore essentially the same outfit to the studio every time – whether in New York, L.A. or Edina: an oversized cotton shirt over a T-shirt (usually white), black jeans, penny loafers (sometimes white socks) and makeup.
“Michael is the nicest guy in the world. I remember reading a quote from Lisa Marie when they got married. And someone asked what she liked most about him, and she said, `He’s the nicest guy in the world.’ I laughed when I read that. But he really is. It sounds corny, but he’s definitely the nicest guy I’ve ever met.”

October 8, 1994
Michael & Lisa attend an Elvis Presley tribute gala in Memphis with Janet & Rene and Lisa’s mother Priscillia Presley

“Black & White” – Nov. 5th 1994
BLACK&WHITE : Michael is married now. What do you think about his marriage with Lisa Marie Presley?
Bruce Swedien : This marriage is not for commercial purposes. This marriage is pretty serious thing and I’m glad to see him happy finally. Lisa Marie is great, they feel very good together. They are inseparable. She comes very often to the studio.
It feels good to me, seeing that, because of that relationship Michael has changed.

December 24/25, 1994
Michael makes a break in the recording sessions to enjoy the holidays with Lisa Marie & her children at Neverland.

January 20-24, 1995

Michael & Lisa Marie welcome King Nana Amon Ndoufou in Los Angeles .

February 6, 1995

Michael & Lisa Marie visit lawyer Johnnie Cochran at his new office in L.A.

April-May 95

MJ practices choreography with Travis Payne at LM residence

May 25, 1995

Michael, Lisa Marie & her daughter Danielle go to the Six Flags Amusement Park in Los Angeles .

Excerpt from Child Bride, June, 1995

As Lisa and Michael prepared to do their much-publicized, hugely anticipated and widely watched July 14, 1995 interview with Diane Sawyer on Primetime Live answering questions about their bizarre marriage, Lisa was seen coming out of the president’s office at the Celebrity Centre in the Hollywood Hills the afternoon before, where she was being advised on how to handle the questions and answers. Another one of Lisa’s childhood friends, Dana Rosenfeld, watched the interview, along with most of America, and was stunned. “My only take on that is that for so long she was hidden from everybody and nobody knew anything, and what better way to just catapult yourself to the center of the media’s attention than to marry someone like that?”

June 14, 1995

Michael & Lisa Marie give an interview to ABC’s Primetime Live with Diane Sawyer. Lisa Marie later says that after this interview the marriage began to fall apart.

JRandy:

“It was right after the Diane Sawyer show that things started going bad,” says Monica Pastelle. “Lisa started to wonder if she’d made a mistake in choosing him as a life partner. The great sex continued, though. It was the thing that made it difficult for her to see straight where he was concerned. Whatever was going on in the privacy of their bedroom was enough to keep her hooked into the relationship. However, things were getting strained. When they weren’t in bed making love, they were fighting.”

Said James Cruse, who knew her well at the time: “It was embarrassing for her to constantly defend his actions, always explaining that he was not a pedophile, he was misunderstood, he was a child at heart, blah, blah, blah… the same stuff you always hear about the guy. He didn’t seem to care that it was hard on her. He just wanted to live his life the way he had always lived it. “What I do is none of your business,” he told her. That really set her off. “How can you say that? Of course it’s my business,” she told him. “You’re my husband. You’re my business”.

July 12, 1995

Michael and Lisa Marie shoot the video for You Are Not Alone and they also appear on the cover of Jet magazine. The director says that Michael was too shy to ask her to participate himself, but considering there was tension between them at the time, it might have had less to do with him being shy and more to do with the relationship being strained.

Director of YANA, Wayne Isham, videostatic.com interview:

“Having done videos for so long, nothing strikes me as strange anymore. Everything has a unique twist. But, the one that ranks at the top is probably Michael Jackson “You Are Not Alone.” We had planned out all these elements for the video and then Michael had this idea where he wanted to use this Greek, classical-styled, artistic imagery. And, he wanted to appear in it naked with his wife, Lisa Marie Presley. Like they were Greek gods. It had nothing to do with the video we were doing, but I said, “OK, that’s cool. We can shoot it.” We set it up and as we’re ready to shoot, he leads me into the trailer and says,

“Have you asked her?” He wanted me to ask her to appear in the video. He was too shy. So I asked. And we did it.”

It took 5 days to complete shooting of the clip “You Are Not Alone”, plus another 5 days to edit and create the special effects.

According to director Wayne Isham, the very last scene of Michael and Lisa Marie was filmed without the couple’s knowledge.

Debbie Rowe’s friend Tonya Watts says that Debbie was also on the set, from her myspace,

So She took me to Gower Studio where he was shooting a music video. He works at night so we went around 11pm. I was so nervous (only he and Dolly would make me nervous).. We arrived and his body guards led us to a trailer. She went in and left me outside of the trailer for a while. Finally, she opened the door and called me in.. She said “Michael this is Tonya Tonya this is Michael”. he shook my hand.. and I said the dumbest shit ever… ” “should I faint now or later” giggle giggle.. He then said “listen to her laugh.”. so I sat in the corner in a chair while she, Michael and the makeup artist all carry on while he is getting his makeup done… not many people can say they have done that.. he is very private about his makeup affairs ha ha

Off to the set we went… I was so shy and trailed behind.. He stopped and waited on me.. Such a gentleman.. We did go in his personal trailer and there was candy all over the place..just as I would have imagined . We soon had to leave cuz Lisa Marie was on her way. She was in that video and well, it was time to go.

July 31-August 6, 1995

After an argument with Lisa Marie, Michael flies to Disneyland Paris and doesn’t see or speak to Lisa Marie for 6 weeks.

She tells Rolling Stone in 2003: “He got upset and he would just disappear.”

JRandy:

Michael was still pushing Lisa to get pregnant. She, however, was reluctant – sensing that the marriage was doomed.

Their physical intimacy had cooled. ‘I think we have to have sex in order for me to get pregnant,’ she told him, ‘and I ain’t doin’ it.’

But Michael didn’t mind. He had a plan. One day over breakfast, he told Lisa: ‘My friend Debbie said she will have my baby. If you won’t do it, then she will.’

Lisa was stunned. Life with Jackson had been weird from the start, but this was too much. She called his bluff. ‘That’s fine with me,’ she said in a calm, controlled voice. ‘Tell her to go ahead and do it.’

August 15, 1995

You Are Not Alone is released as a single and directly reaches number 1 on the Billboard.

Michael Jackson Simulchat (during their separation)- August 17, 1995

Bruce Ross: How has your marriage to Lisa Marie changed your life?

Michael: I think I find it more fun to appreciate what family really means. The fact that even though there were ten of us Jacksons…we were always doing things at different times, and I’m really learning the real meaning of love. Giving 100% of yourself all the time. Putting up with one another. So far it has been pretty joyous.

Sam: A story in the UK press claims a quickie divorce on the way. Is it true?

Michael: Never believe tabloid garbage. Don’t waste your time, don’t waste your money. No, it’s not true. If you hear it from my lips, then you can believe it. But no, it’s not true.

SiBiS: In Oprah’s interview you said that you wanted to raise a family one day. Do you plan to do so?

Michael: Yes. That’s my dream for a long time. My own children, I want to adopt them. Not only my own, but children from all over the world. I think we should be less territorial about it.

Kurt: How did you like working with your sister Janet on the “Scream” video and your beautiful wife Lisa Marie on “You Are Not Alone”?  P.S: Best of luck to you two, don’t listen to all the B.S going around!

Michael: That’s a great question. The press creates all of these negative stories so people will buy their magazines or read their columns. You mustn’t read everything you read. Most of it is not true, most of it’s garbage. And I want everyone to be aware of what the tabloid media is like. I have had so much fun working with my sister and working on the set everyday. I haven’t seen her in quite some time and she is busy and I am as well and it’s like a reunion. I’m closest to Janet of all the family members. We were very emotional on the set. We laughed, we cried, we had a lot of fun. Everyday she’d come to me sad because of something in the press. I told her she’d just have to become resilient. I had a lot of fun with Lisa Marie on the set. But when the director said, “Action”, she became very shy. I was giving her a hard time too!

The Mirror, August 19, 1995

If it’s Saturday, it must be time to air another [LISA MARIE] Presley-Michael Jackson rumor. This time rumor central has it that Lisa Marie plans to divorce.

Buffalo News, Aug 20, 1995

Spokesmen have denied a British report, attributed to an unnamed aide of Lisa Marie Presley, that the daughter of the king of rock ‘n’ roll wanted a divorce.

Seen, Heard, Said, August 28, 1995

Mommy rumors are surfacing again for Lisa Marie. This info comes during the couple’s heated denial that Lisa Marie wants a divorce and in fact was seen walking on a beach with ex-hubby Danny Keough. A source tells The Star that Danny is saying, “It’s not a matter of if she’ll get divorced – it’s just a matter of when.”

September 7, 1995

Michael attends the MTV Video Music Awards in New York City . He opens the ceremony with a 20 minutes long medley (including Dangerous & You Are Not Alone) and accepts an award with Janet for Scream.

Lisa Marie tells Rolling Stone in 2003; She says that after about a month without any contact, his people started calling, saying that it was important that she show up at the MTV Video Music Awards. She agreed to show up if she didn’t have to go down the red carpet; they consented, and then led her down it anyway. “I was pissed. I just felt like I was being used at that point.” She was then told that he was going to sing to her and that he had a surprise for her. “I remember my whole look was: ‘Don’t you come anywhere fucking near me — we haven’t spoken in a month.’ And he got it. He didn’t come over. I talked to him later and he said, ‘I saw the look on your face, and I knew that if I walked up to you, I didn’t know what you were going to do me.’ “

JRandy, September, 1995

In September 1995 rumors surfaced that Michael and Lisa Marie were ending their marriage, causing an international firestorm of headlines. I managed to get Michael on the telephone for an interview for the Australian magazine, Women’s Day, to check it out. “Let me just say this,” he told me, impatiently. “No. No. No. No. These stories are damn lies made up by people who hope they’ll get lucky with one of them and hit it big.”

I asked if he wanted to further respond to reports that Lisa did not know about his vacation in Paris with the Cascio brothers. “Like I wouldn’t have told her? “ Michael asked. “Like she wouldn’t read about it anyway, or see us photographed by every newspaper photographer in the world? Neither one of us could have kept a secret from the other, even if we wanted to,” he said. “We’re so happy,” he added of his marriage. “We do it our way. I don’t know if it’s conventional. My parents have been married for forty years. Is their marriage conventional? Were Lisa’s parents in a conventional marriage? I don’t think so. I love being married, knowing that Lisa’s there,” he continued. “She’s strong. She’s smart. She’s on my side, listens to me, understands me, understands my world.”

Visit Memphis Zoo, September 24 1995

She is seen walking ahead of him and the relationship appears tense.

Janet Jackson, USA Today, Oct 11, 1995

She also defends his (Michael’s) marriage to Lisa Marie Presley, “a true sister to the 10th power. Lisa’s wonderful. She’s beautiful inside and out. They’re good for each other.” She was disgusted when her brother’s sex life was probed in June’s Prime Time Live interview. “For Diane Sawyer to ask all the other questions and then have someone else ask that – why?” says Jackson, rolling her eyes. “I’m sick of this whole stupid thing about, ‘Do they have sex?’ Somebody asked me that and I said, “No, they just sit there, look at each other and masturbate.’ I mean it’s STUPID. I wish people would shut the fuck up and leave him alone.”

December 6, 1995

Michael collapses while rehearsing the concert and he is rushed to the Beth Israel Medical Center . He is suffering from gastro-enteritis, dehydration and electrolyte imbalances.

JRandy:

As soon as he was checked into the hospital, Michael’s press people telephoned Lisa in Los Angeles and, with frantic explanations, begged her to fly to her husband’s side. “Hell, no was her response. “Screw him. I’m not going. Why should I?”

December 10, 1995

Lisa Marie finally visits him and she asks for a divorce.

uesday, December 12th 1995

Lisa Marie Presley has been living at the Four Seasons while she visits her ailing husband. But she didn’t check into Jackson’s swank suite she got her own, reports a spy.

December 18, 1995

Michael goes resting at Disneyland Paris taking with him the Cascio kids (Frank, Eddie, Dominic Jr, Aldo & Marie Nicole)

January 18, 1996

Lisa Marie officially files for divorce. Michael’s spokesman states that they remain friends.

JRandy:

Michael spent a couple of weeks lamenting what had occurred with Lisa. “Lisa said that the part of him that is critical of himself – the beaten child part of him – really kicked in after the divorce was finalized,” said Monica Pastelle. “He wanted to call and talk to his best friend, her. He didn’t want to let go. She needed space, though. She really needed time away from him. She felt that he had really screwed with her mind, and she got sick and her body started breaking down after the divorce. She poured her life into him. Now, she had to reclaim it for herself. He had a hard time with that.”

Child Bride:

Lisa’s ill-founded marriage to Michael came tumbling down within six months of the Diane Sawyer interview, when Lisa filed for divorce in January 1996. The inside word was that, before the marriage, Michael had promised Lisa a recording contract with his company and had later reneged. “That’s what he might have been promising her,” commented Myrna, who disapproved of the marriage from the outset, “but that might not have been his intention.” Lisa, she revealed, was devastated by the experience. “He’s very much top of the pile in his world, and that’s probably one reason why Lisa filed for divorce,” said Brett. “And the things she asked for from Michael, he wasn’t willing to do.”

Michael and Karen Faye have dinner, January 26th 1996,

Pop superstar Michael Jackson came out of hiding last night, enjoying a sushi dinner and the company of a mystery blond in midtown (Karen Faye, his make up artist) just a week after his impending divorce was made public.

“I am having a great time,” Jackson said, his first public words since Lisa Marie Presley told him to beat it last week, ending a 19-month marriage that has often been described as a giant publicity stunt.

It was hard to tell whether the carefully choreographed public appearance at the Motown Cafe was meant for his personal enjoyment or to quell questions over his sexuality that have dogged him for the last several years.

No one could figure out who Jackson’s friend for the evening was but judging from their body language the pair seemed very well-acquainted, right down to their matching mirrored sunglasses, which never came off during the hour they spent together at the W. 57th St. spot.

The woman, who appeared to be in her late 20s or early 30s, did not answer when asked her name. Restaurant personnel said they did not know who she was.

The self-described King of Pop looked healthy, relaxed and true to character heavily made up when he entered the theme restaurant just after 10 p.m.

Rubbing shoulders with fans, tourists and executives from CBS Records, he was dressed casually in jeans and a red buttondown shirt. A light red lipstick and base makeup covered his face.

As the couple and an entourage of bodyguards entered through the cafe’s revolving doors, the crowd hushed, then stared and cheered while Jackson and his group mounted the stairs to an upstairs dining area.

The area where they ate was just behind a metal statue of the singer as a boy.”That’s 10,” Jackson said when asked how old he was in the statue.

A crush of people clamored for a glimpse of the singer, who signed a few autographs. He spent several minutes holding 1-year-old Juelle Dixson, whose father, Julius, is a performer with the restaurant singing group, the Motown Moments.

“I am a big fan of his,” Dixson said. “It feels good when you are really a fan of someone’s. He is someone I really like.”

Jackson was equally impressed with Juelle. “She’s so beautiful,” he said.

His waitress brought out Evian water, orange juice and a specially prepared plate of sushi California roll, salmon and shrimp. Eating with their hands, the couple dunked the sushi in sauce, clinked their glasses and giggled.

After a few moments, Jackson called over the waitress, Andrea Whitaker.”He said, ‘Can I request ‘I’ll be There,’?” Whitaker said. “I said, ‘You can request anything you want!’ “

January 27, 1995

The day after this PR date, Lisa Marie contacts Karen Faye and calls her a bitch.

LMP, March, Vogue Magazine, 1996

Is Lisa happy with her face? “God, no. NO! How could I like what I see in the mirror?” she asks. “I wouldn’t hang out with a human who woke up in the morning and looked in the mirror and said, ‘I look beautiful.’” But she’s content. She’s not about to go run off to a cosmetic surgeon like some people we could mention. And if she does, it will be for routine repair, not rebirth as a different person. “I’m pretty vain. And I don’t like things falling without my permission. If something does, then I’ll get it fixed.”

The face in the mirror is one thing; the naked body showed with Michael Jackson’s pasty flesh in the “You Are Not Alone” video is another. I wanted to know how she saw her public image. “That’s a hard one.” You bet it is — only partly through her own fault (she presumably chose to make those videos) but mostly because of the fatal star that made her Elvis’s only child. In person, she is reserved and private — “terribly shy,” she says — but she’s been a honey pot in the press since the day she was born and lives fenced in by minder staff, and security that beat anything I’ve ever seen.

[...]

She came into Vogue’s offices to try on the clothes for the photo shoot. She was as nervous as a two-year-old colt at the thought — “of talking” — even about clothes. She doesn’t talk to the press. She’s done only one other press interview in her life, though her tabloid clippings could fill a room. The clippings will be doubling and redoubling as the divorce — about which she will not say one word — goes through.

Feb 20, 1996

Pop star Michael Jackson will produce the debut album of his estranged wife, Lisa Marie Presley, “Day & Date” reported yesterday.

On the program, celebrity writer J. Randy Taraborrelli said, “Michael Jackson will be producing Lisa Marie Presley’s first album in the next few months.And chances are there will be a duet between Jackson and Presley.

Taraborrelli, who wrote the unauthorized biography “Michael Jackson: The Magic and the Madness,” added: “Lisa Marie will make her record industry debut in the next six months.”

May, 1996

Debbie Rowe gets pregnant again with Michael’s baby.

LMP, Ladies Home Journal, August, 1996

They both married in their early twenties, were divorced single mothers by their late twenties and will be linked forever by royal marriages to messed-up pop-music messiahs.

Small wonder that Priscilla Presley and daughter Lisa Marie are attached by a fiercely protective, almost mystical bond that has influenced their tumultuous journeys to Graceland and Neverland and back. It is a tie, Presley says, that grew stronger through Lisa Marie’s rumor-ridden twenty-month union with Michael Jackson, which ended just before her twenty-eighth birthday early this year.

“I’m her mom,” Presley says. “I’m there for her. She knows that. It’s a very delicate situation, for her and for everybody involved.”

[...]

She is animated and expansive talking about comfortable topics like family values and child rearing, but ask about Lisa Marie’s life since her Caribbean elopement with Jackson, in May 1994, and a curtain drops behind Presley’s blue eyes. She won’t even mention what’s-his-name–and certainly won’t comment on all those tabloid reports. Among them: that she pressured Lisa Marie to split from Jackson, hoping for a reconciliation with Keough, whom she calls a “terrific father”; or that Jackson continued to spend time with young boys while married.

“I don’t want to get into these questions” is all she will say. “I have a very difficult time with divorce. I would never betray her. But there’s one great thing about Lisa Marie: She understands surviving.”

[...]

Still, there’s no controlling what Navarone picks up at school about his famous half-sister’s much-publicized marriage to Jackson. “He’ll come home with crazy things, and I’ll have to change the opinion right away,” she says. “That’s the hardest thing–to keep on top of the information he hears.”

[...]

Lisa Marie is, says Presley, far more complex than the sassy, posturing princess America saw interviewed with Jackson by Diane Sawyer for PrimeTime Live. “I know someone very different. I hope the public doesn’t judge her for that.”

[...]

Interestingly, just as Lisa Marie’s divorced parents spent amicable time together, she and Keough “want to be together and want their children to see them together,” says Presley. “She gets along wonderfully with Danny.” Asked how the marriage to Jackson affected that connection, Presley instinctively pulls back: “I don’t want to even–that’s another story.”

Rome News Tribune, November 9th 1996

The woman who is carrying Michael Jackson’s baby has told friends that the King of Pop’s marriage to Lisa Marie Presley broke up because she wouldn’t have his child.

3T, TV Hits, 1997:

Q: So what about Uncle Michael and Lisa Marie getting a divorce?

TJ: They’ve had so much pressure on them, especially from the press – it must be hard to stay together.

Taryll: The press only report the bad things. They don’t know how much love there is between them.

Taj: Nobody ever said about Michael and Lisa Marie, “oh, that’s nice, I hope it lasts”. Everybody wanted to kill the relationship before it had a chance.

3T, Smash Hits, 1997:

Taj: We only got to meet her twice, but she was great. We all got along fine. It was sad when it ended, because we know how special she was to our uncle. Right from the beginning, everyone wanted to see it fail. A lot of it was media pressure and rumors – maybe she just didn’t want to be under the spotlight.

July 11, 1997

While a pregnant Debbie returns to the states, Michael goes to London where he is joined by his ex wife LIsa Marie.

July 12 + 15 + 17, 1997

Michael performs 3 concerts at the Wembley Stadium in London . (Katherine & Lisa Marie attend the shows)

Jul 17, 1997

They split last year, but Michael Jackson and former wife Lisa Marie Presley were hand-in-hand Tuesday night returning to his hotel after his sell-out London concert. Presley stood at the edge of the stage through the show at Wembley stadium. Afterward, the two returned to the Carlton Towers hotel and Jackson waved to fans.

July 26, 1997

Michael Jackson is a hunk in the bunk, according to his wife Debbie Rowe. Speaking for the first time about their bizarre marriage, Debbie said Michael Jackson lives to make love round the clock. Debbie, 38, said she doesn’t give a hoot that he and first wife Lisa Marie Presley spent time together in London recently.

October 11, 1997

Michael is made honorary member of a tribe in Phoheng. His parents Joe & Katherine & his ex wife Lisa Marie attend the event.

Enquirer, October 21, 1997

MICHAEL JACKSON has reportedly begged LISA MARIE PRESLEY to give marriage a second try. The king of pop whisked his ex-wife away for a hush-hush second honeymoon in exotic South Africa. And during the romantic getaway with Lisa Marie’s daughter DANIELLE, Jackson popped the question to her. A source told American tabloid THE STAR, “He’s really excited about the possibility of starting over with Lisa Marie. While they were in Africa they both realized how much they had missed each other.” Michael’s kid sister, a great friend of Lisa Marie, played matchmaker to bring the couple together. And despite Jackson being married, his wife DEBBIE ROWE was unaware of their secret tryst at the Palace Hotel, in Johannesburg. Jackson and Lisa Marie stunned the world when they married in the Dominican Republic. But 20 months later the fairy tale union ended in divorce. Even though Jackson has fathered a baby with his new wife, Rowe, he has always remained close to ELVIS PRESLEY’s little girl.

November 25, 1997

Debbie Rowe Jackson gives an interview to KNBC in Neverland where she denies tabloid rumors of an affair between Michael & Lisa Marie and announces that she is pregnant with a baby girl that she and Michael want to name Paris Michael Katherine.

Michael, Life Magazine, December 1997

But there is one subject to which Michael repeatedly returns during four hours of conversation and picture-taking: Lisa Marie Presley.

Michael’s voice quickens, even quavers, when he speaks of Lisa Marie. How she enjoys the baby. How they are still close after an amicable divorce. How they frolicked overseas the month before. He seems to pine for her. “Lisa Marie was just with me in Africa,” Michael says. “We (went to) IMAX theaters, simulated-ride safaris, dinner. We went parasailing. It was wonderful.”

Even Debbie has acknowledged that Michael is still smitten. “He cares about her very much, but it didn’t work out and he was devastated,” she has said. “He loved her very much. Still does.”

When asked if Lisa Marie has ever expressed second thoughts about not having been the one to bear his son, Michael insists, “She regrets it. She said so.” Would she still consider having a kid with him? “She’d like to, yes,” he says putting a mischievous finger to his lips. “Shh.”

[...]

And there, on one nightstand, rests a framed photograph of Lisa Marie. Not a recent snapshot. Or even a formal portrait. But a picture apparently cut out of a magazine, placed as a child would place it, cockeyed, in a frame meant to hold a photo twice its size. A picture of Elvis and is little girl, then only five years old.” This is the age,” Michael says, “when I first met Lisa Marie. When her father first came to my concerts. I’ve known her ever since.”

National Enquirer, 28 January, 1998

LISA MARIE PRESLEY is back in the clutches of ex-husband MICHAEL JACKSON, sparking fears that he’ll grab control of the multi-million dollar Presley empire. The couple have been spotted spending hours together chatting business and pleasure despite Jackson having a wife and child, with another on the way, back at his Neverland Ranch in California. And family friends of Presley say mom PRISCILLA is freaking out that the singer is only interested in her daughter’s fortune, left to her by ELVIS PRESLEY. A friend told American tabloid NATIONAL EXAMINER, “She’s starstruck over Michael. And he’s convinced her she can trust him over anyone else. She told me ‘I can trust Michael. Michael has all the money he could ever use. He has no reason to try to get part of mine.” Presley is due to inherit the $300 million Elvis estate when she turns 30 on February 1st. A friend said, “Priscilla is scared to death that Michael will take over and fire her. This is the guy who shrewdly bought up the rights to all the Beatles songs. So now PAUL McCARTNEY would have to pay Michael if he wants to record one of his own songs. Priscilla’s petrified Michael is up to the same game with Lisa.”

February 7, 1998

Michael has dinner with Lisa Marie at the Ivy Restaurant in L.A.

The National Enquirer, Feb 10, 1998

IN OTHER JACKSON NEWS – HE TAKES LISA-MARIE OUT ON THE TOWN IN LA:

King of Pop MICHAEL JACKSON has set tongues wagging again after being spotted out on the town with ex-wife LISA MARIE PRESLEY. The THRILLER star left pregnant wife DEBBIE ROWE at home while he wined and dined Presley at the exclusive IVY restaurant in Beverly Hills, California last Saturday night. Jackson emerged from the eaterie hand in hand with the 30-year- old daughter of ELVIS, and the couple sped off in a waiting car. Rumors are now rife that Presley’s bizarre romance with the megastar is back on again. The news will not be welcomed by her first husband DANNY KEOUGH, who only recently was reported to have reunited with Presley. Keough banned Presley from letting the singer near their two children after seeing pictures of five year-old son BEN sitting on Jackson’s lap. Now with the latest sightings, Jacko is well and truly in Keough’s bad books.

USA TODAY 3 June, 1998

Who needs Michael Jackson? Ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley has signed a debut deal with Java Records, a joint venture with Capitol, and goes into the studio in January.

Java is owned by Glen Ballard, who produced Alanis Morrissette’s smash album Jagged Little Pill. People’s Mitchell Fink scooped this Wednesday on CNN’s Showbiz Today, and it was confirmed to me by a Presley spokesman.

Ballard will co-write and produce with Elvis’ only child. He said in a statement Wednesday: ”Lisa and I met through a mutual friend, and I was struck by her intelligence, her talent and her passion for music. There has been a genuine creative connection between us, and it is clear to me that Lisa will make an artistic statement that is unique and compelling.”

Jackson tried to get a record deal for Presley but nothing came of it. Ballard co-wrote Jackson’s Man in the Mirror.

Rebbie Jackson, OK! May, 1998:

One family member she has yet to get the chance to accept is Michael’s wife Debbie Rowe, the mother of his heir Prince Michael Jr. “I have never met Debbie, so I don’t know what she’s like,” she explains. But one ‘outsider’ Rebbie is happy to befriend is Michael’s first wife, Lisa Marie Presley. She says: “Her six year old son Benjamin is so in love with my two daughters – he flirts with them all the time when Lisa’s visiting my home!”

November 10-20, 1998

Michael goes to Souh Africa with his kids as well as Lisa Marie & her kids and together thay attend a Janet concert.

November 25, 1998

Michael spends Thanksgiving at Hayvenhurst with the Jackson family + Lisa Marie & her kids

Mid December, 1998

Michael goes to the Hit Factory in New York where he meets Teddy Riley, Janet & Lisa Marie.

LMP, Newsday, 28 January, 1999

Lisa Marie then wanted me to tell her my sources for various items about her ex-husband Michael Jackson and his current wife, Debbie Rowe! I declined, of course. And she declined to say much else either – merely that she is busy in the recording studio making an album. “Things are going well; my kids are good!”

LMP, USA Today, 10 February, 1999

Presley princess marks 31 at L.A. bash from USA Today

Lisa Marie Presley danced till dawn to celebrate her 31st birthday with 300 guests at L.A.’s Argyle Hotel on Sunset Boulevard.

Elvis’s little girl, in a sexy red Dolce & Gabbana dress, partied Friday (her actual birth date was Feb. 1) with Janet Jackson, who stuck close, Seal, Kirstie Alley, Marisa Tomei, Andy Dick, Jimmy Jam, David Foster and Glenn Ballard, who’s working with Presley in the studio on her forthcoming record. Juliette Lewis picked up a mike to sing Happy Birthday. Guests enjoyed backrubs and a photo booth. No sign of Presley exes Danny Keough and that Michael guy. But an unidentified beau supposedly hosted the event.

23 March, 1999

Elton John Hosts Seventh Annual Oscar Night Party to Benefit the Elton John AIDS Foundation Sponsored by InStyle Magazine Jim Carrey greeted Mariah Carey and both joined the booth of Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, and Lisa Marie Presley.

Michael, The Mirror, 13 April 1999

“I start dancing and Prince is all in the way trying to dance with me. “Jackson never plays his own music to his children – “I’m saving that for a surprise when they are a bit older,”‘ he smiles. He would love them to go into the entertainment world but he’s aware of the dangers.

He says: “It’s going to be hard for them. When Lisa-Marie wants to sing, people always compare her to her father, which is so tough.”

National Enquirer, June 30, 1999

Lisa Marie Begs Michael: Please Take Me Back!

Lisa Marie Presley is desperately pleading with ex-husband Michael Jackson to take her back.

In a heartfelt phone call to her ex-mother-in-law, Katherine Jackson, “Lisa Marie made it very clear she wants Michael again,” said an insider.

Lisa Marie told Katherine, “Our divorce was a mistake — a bad mistake,” the insider revealed to The ENQUIRER.

“I know how to love Michael. I want him to know I’m here for him.”

Elvis’ only child married pop star Michael in 1994, and divorced nearly two years later.

Lisa Marie’s attempt to rekindle Michael’s interest comes when her ex-husband’s marriage to Debbie Rowe is on the rocks.

The couple had a bitter fight when Michael announced the couple’s 2-year-old boy Prince was dying — and backed out of a planned concert in Italy. But Debbie stated publicly in a televised interview that reports the boy was in danger were false.

“Lisa Marie wanted Michael to know that, unlike Debbie, she would NEVER publicly dispute anything he said,” noted the insider.

“Don’t forget, when Lisa Marie and Michael were married, she went on television with him and defended everything he has ever done.”

Debbie’s considering ending the bizarre, 21 2-year union with the pop star, and Michael’s terrified he’ll lose his beloved son Prince, and the couple’s 1-year-old daughter Paris.

But not if Lisa Marie can help it. She told Katherine Jackson, “I’ll treat his two adorable kids as my own,” said the insider.

“I want to be back with Michael.”


Michael, TV Guide Interview, 29 November, 1999

What about the plastic surgery?

All of Hollywood has plastic surgery! I don’t know why they point me out. The press exagerated it. It’s just to my nose. They want it to be everything. Just the nose isn’t enough. Elvis had his nose done Lisa Marie told me. They don’t talk about that. They singled me out. It’s not fair.

OK, well, now that you bring up Lisa Marie, I read that she said she regrets not having had your son and that she may still want to have a child with you. Is that true?

I remember that’s how she felt at the time [laughs]. No matter what I say, I’m in trouble with this question. The next issue of TV Guide will probably say “Well, Lisa said she doesn’t ever want to see him again!”

Are you two friends now?

Lisa’s sweet. I like her very much and we are friends. And who knows what tomorrow brings? I have no idea how she feels today. I’ll just say that. She comes to my house and sees the children, and we talk on the phone, that sort of thing.

Do you think you will marry again?

That would be nice.

What would make the third time the charm?

It just has to hit me. You have to see that person and go, “This is it. This is the one.”

Did you feel that way with both of your marriages?

Yeah. Of course.

Enquirer, Dec.16, 1999

MICHAEL JACKSON destroyed his friendship with ex-wife LISA MARIE PRESLEY when he claimed in a recent interview that Lisa told him ELVIS had a nose job.

Lisa is so furious with Michael for breaking her confidence that she’s stopped taking his calls and is vowing never to speak to him again!

Michael didn’t realize his casual remark about her father would upset Lisa and quickly sent her 100 of her favorite peach-colored long-stem roses as a peace offering.

But she refused to accept the delivery!

Michael is so distraught over the thought of losing access to Lisa that he’s leaning on ELIZABETH TAYLOR to intervene on his behalf.

April 6, 2001

Elvis’ little girl Lisa Marie Presley has ditched her rocker fiance John Oszajca and is telling pals she wants to remarry ex-hubby Michael Jackson-and have his baby, reveal insiders.

“She’s even called Michael and begged him to take her back,” confides a Presley family insider.

But the source close to the Presleys says Lisa Marie’s feelings for Jackson are what really destroyed the relationship with Oszajca.

“She kept on having love pangs for Michael,” reveals the insider. “Her feelings for him kept intruding on her relationship with John. He would get furious and tell her to forget Michael. But she wouldn’t.”

Finally, fed up Oszajca told her to choose between him and Jackson-and she chose The Gloved One, according to the source.

Lisa Marie and Jackson, 42, divorced in 1996, following a two-year marriage. Since then he’s had a son, Prince, 4, and daughter, Paris, 3, with estranged wife Debbie Rowe, who filed for divorce in 1999.

Now Lisa Marie-who has children, Danielle, 11 and Benjamin, 8, from her first marriage to musician Danny Keough-is telling freinds that she wants to swap vows with Jackson again, sources report.

“She says her biological clock is ticking and she’d like to have his baby,” reveals the Presley family insider. And her dream might just come true.

Lisa Marie and Michael Jackson have remained close friends and continue to see each other, sources say. “She’s made no secret that the happiest time in her life was when they were married. Over the years, she’s also kept in touch with his family, includinghis mom, Katherine.”

Lisa Marie’s spokesman, Paul Bloch, confirmed her breakup with Oszajca and added that while she is still friends with Jackson and loves him, she does not want to remarry him.

But insiders say Elvis’ only child is determined to woo Jackson back. “Lisa Marie’s predicting to friends that she and Michael will be walking down the aisle by year’s end,” says the source.

“And if you know Lisa Marie, she never lets anything get in her way.”

Conversations With Rabbi Schmuley, 2000/1

MJ: Lisa.. we’re still friendly, but she’s running around. She just changed her number and we don’t have the new one yet.

[...]

SB: How do your feel about men who are not faithful to their wives?

MJ: I dont’t think it’s good but I understand it. I know that is a strange answer.

SB: You find women fall in love with you all the time as the megastar so you don’t judge men who are unfaithful, because sometimes you’ll ascribe it to women who make themselves available?

MJ: I don’t judge them because women can do some things that make guys very unhappy. I have seen it with my brothers. I have seen my brothers crying, in tears and pulling grass out of the lawn with frustrations because of their wives.

SB: Do you think a lot of their wives are interested in their success than them?

MJ: Absolutely. They were after their money. That’s why I said to myself that I would never be married. I held out the longest. I stayed at home until I was twenty-seven, twenty-eight.

SB: So part of the attraction to LMP that she had her own money and her own fame and you didn’t have to become anxious that she was interested in you for the wrong reasons?

MJ: Absolutely she didn’t take a penny [when we got divorce] she didn’t want anything. She makes about a million dollars a year from Elvis memorabilia and selling all that stuff and she has her own thing. She is not her to take, you know.

SB: So that means there was almost like one girl in the whole world that you could marry because even a rich woman would want your name. You needed someone with money and a name. You were down to a Presley or a McCartney or something like that.

MJ: I know Lisa was great. She was a sweet person. But it is hard to tie me down. I can’t stay in one place one time so that’s why I don’t know if I can really be completely married all the time.

SB: Did you want to be a father to her kids?

MJ: Yes.

SB: Do you still stay in touch with the children?

MJ: Yes and with her.

SB: But marriage is too confining?

MJ: Yes. I don’t know whether I’m disciplined enough because I am such a rolling stone. I have such a life when I am always on the move and women don’t like that. They want you to be settled in one place all the time but I have to move. I have been in the same city as where my house is and I’ll check into a hotel just to feel like I’m going somewhere. My house is right there. I guess I’m just moving all the time, moving.

SB: Do you get lonely? Or is there so much going on in your life that it doesn’t really happen?

MJ: Like lonely for a wife? For like a mate? Like that?

SB: Yeah

MJ: I’ve been through two bad divorces. I just got out of the second one. Even when married to those women that I was married to, I’d go to bed hurting. I was hurting.

I was crying last night as I went to sleep and I didn’t sleep good last night and I cry Shmuley, because I feel this… and I’m not trying. I’m telling you the honest truth and if you don’t believe me you can ask Frank. Frank knew how I was hurting. I just was feeling all the pain of the children who suffer and I was hurting so much. That’s why I was trying to reach any child I knew who had pain from [Michael mention a little girl who was battling cancer and whose family he met at our home] to Gavin [Michael's later accuser]. I was trying to like calling, dialing and I woke up the first thing, the first person I called was the little girl’s house and she had gone already. It hurts me. But I think that’s where my real love comes from, Shmuley. If I can help in that way I’m fine and I don’t need the other [romantic love].

You know if I meet some girl somewhere and I think she’s beautiful, which I see a lot of them, that’s great. I mean, I’ll go on a date or something. Nothing wrong with that. Jennifer Lopez looked awfully good the other day, she did. I was shocked ‘cause I never thought….She looked good.

SB: But have you given up on women understanding you? You tend to think that children will understand you a lot better?

MJ: I’m not easy to live with in that way for a wife. I not easy and I know I’m not easy. Because I give all my time to someone else. I give it to children. I give it to somebody sick somewhere, to the music. And women want to be the center. And I remember LMP would always say to me,” I’m not a piece of furniture.” “I’m not a piece of furniture.” “You just can’t…” and I say, “I don’t want you to be a piece of furniture,” and you know, there’d be some sick little girls calling on the phone and she’d get mad and hang up on them. And, you know, I feel that’s my mission, Shmuley. I have to do it.

SB: What if you found a woman you was soft, who was incredibly soft?

MJ: Like a Mother Teresa or a Lady Diana or…That would be great. I would be perfect.

SB: Would it be better than having to do it on your own?

MJ: Absolutely, and Lisa was great with going to the hospitals with me, and she was so sweet about that. They would tie the babies to the bed of chain children down. We’d go unchain…we’d go free all these babies. I hated that and she discovered a lot of that injustice with me. Countries like Romania and Prague, Czech and all that, Russia.

[…]

Lisa Marie was good about at least visiting. So she had no problem going and doing some of the compassionate things of giving these children love and making them feel special.

MJ: She had no problem doing that but her and I had several big arguments ‘ cause she’s very territorial with her children. Her children were [her major concern]….and I said “No, all children are our concern,” and she never liked that coming from me. She was very angry about that. Plus she a had fight with me one time when two little boys in London killed this other kid and I was going to visit them cause the Queen gave them adult sentencing of life. These were like 11 and 10 year old boys and I was going to the prison and visiting them. She said, “You idiot. You’re just rewarding them for what they did.” I said, “How dare you say that.” I bet if you trace their lives you can find they didn’t have parents around, they didn’t have any love, nobody there to hold them look in their eyes and say “I love you,.” They deserve that even if they are going to get life, I just want to say I love you and hold them. “She said, “Well you’re wrong.” I said “No, you’re wrong.” The information came out they came from broken families, were never watched as little kids, attended to. Their pacifier was those Chucky movies with the stabbings and the killings. And that’s how they became conditioned to that.

SB: Did she admit then you had a good point?

MJ: Nope, she thinks I’m rewarding bad kids.

SB: Did she want you to be a father to her kids?

MJ: Well that was once asked of her. She was asked that question on TV and she said, “No, they have a father. Their father is Keogh,” that other guy. But I was really good to her children. Every day I’d bring them home something and they’d be waiting by the window for me and hug me. I love them. I miss them so much.

SB: Did she get used to living at Neverland or was it too isolated?

MJ: Lisa didn’t live at Neverland. We visited Neverland the way…I lived at her house in the city and every once in a while we visited Neverland. It would be like our fun weekend.

SB: And her children liked it?

MJ: Are you kidding me? They were like in heaven.

SB: And you were happy to show it to them?

MJ: Mmm hmm

SB: Since you idolize the family was it very hard for you when you had to go through that divorce then?

MJ: Which one?

SB: With Lisa.

MJ: Was it hard for me?

SB: Did you see the writing on the wall? That you were different? Meaning my parents divorced when I was eight. So I really, really romanticized marriage.

MJ: Really?

SB: But I’m a believer in marriage. So when your relationship with Lisa started to fall apart was it very hard? Your idealism about the family, everything you believed in building the intimate family you always wanted, especially because you knew….

MJ: I wanted children and she didn’t.

SB: She felt she had her kids.

MJ: Yeah, and she promised me before we married, that would be the first thing we’d do was have children. So I was broken-hearted and I walked around al the time holding these little baby dolls and I’d be crying, that’s how badly I wanted them. So I was determined to have children. It disappointed me that she wouldn’t keep her promise to me, you know? After we got divorced she would hang out with my mother all the time. I have all these letters saying, ” I’ll give you nine children. I’ll do whatever you want.” And of course the press don’t know all these stories and she just tried for months and months and I just became too hard-hearted at that point. I closed my mind on the whole situation.

SB: So she thought maybe you could get back together?

MJ: Uh huh

SB: But children were a major, major issue?

MJ: Of course.

SB: She had the kids and that was it.

MJ: She had hers and I wanted us to feel like we all were one big family and have more. Just my dream is to have 9 or 10 children, that’s what I want.

SB: You’re still very young. Do you think that will happen?

MJ: Yeah

SB: But then it means getting married again.

MJ: Yeah

SB: Are you happy to do that?

MJ: Uh huh… or adopt.

SB: Is it possible Michael you’re attracting the wrong kind of girl because of your celebrity?

MJ: It’s hard. That’s why it’s hard, it’s hard for me. It is hard. It’s not easy for celebrities to be married.

SB:Do you think that you could only really marry celebrities so that they don’t need you as much?

MJ: That helps, in my opinion. And they understand what you go through. They’ve been there.

SB: They help you for the right reasons, then?

MJ: Yeah, they’re not after you know, what you’ve made [ the money] or you know? [singing] “That’s what you are….” [ He won a Grammy for that.] Right? Right.

[..]

Michael always spoke with affection and respect for Lisa Marie Presley, with the one exception when he told me that she has wanted him to get involved with Scientology and got pushy. He had to tell her that he had no interest in becoming a Scientologist. Michael was dismissive of Scientology and spoke of how the practices of Scientologists that he had been exposed to were not sufficiently spiritual or substantive for him”

Chicago Sun-Times, January 7, 2002

While friends are predicting wedding bells will soon ring for Nicolas Cage and his love, Lisa Marie Presley, those same pals are also saying Cage is giving Presley an ultimatum.

Reportedly, the actor is VERY tired of his girlfriend’s continuing obsession with her ex-hubby, Michael Jackson. While a close Cage associate laughs off some press reports claiming Cage has demanded Presley stop ALL contact with Jackson (“Or else!”), he does stress the Oscar winner has asked his intended to “cool it,” regarding Jackson.

Though divorced, the daughter of “The King” speaks to the “King of Pop” quite frequently and also is a regular phone chatter with Jackson’s mother, to whom she’s remained close. Apparently, Cage is somewhat jealous of her relationship with Jackson and bored with her constantly bringing him up in conversation.

LMP, The Commercial Appeal, 16 January, 2003

Schilling says Lisa Marie, 34, shied away from a career in music for years, one reason being the perception of living up to her father’s legendary legacy. Nevertheless, Lisa Marie had several offers on the table in the early ’90s, including a production deal at one label that Schilling says he snagged without using her name “to make sure that what I was hearing was good.”

“We were closing a deal at Epic Records and we had a firm offer from RCA,” continues Schilling. “And she called me and said, ‘I can’t sign the deal.’ I said, ‘What do you mean?’ I thought she was kidding. She said, ‘Jerry, I just can’t do it, and you’ll know why.’

“And a couple of days later she married Michael Jackson.”

Lisa Marie married Jackson in 1994. They divorced less than two years later in 1996.

During the tour in South Africa, 1997.  Lisa-Maria and Michael are leaving a restaurant with Omer Bhatti (!) and two Lisa-Maria’s children by her first marriage, Benjamin and Danielle. Michael’s wife Debby is pregnant with their second child Paris, but Michael and Lisa keep each other’s company some two and half years after their divorce.

P.S.

LMP Myspace, Friday, June 26, 2009

He Knew.

Years ago Michael and I were having a deep conversation about life in general.

I can’t recall the exact subject matter but he may have been questioning me about the circumstances of my Fathers Death.

At some point he paused, he stared at me very intensely and he stated with an almost calm certainty, “I am afraid that I am going to end up like him, the way he did.”

I promptly tried to deter him from the idea, at which point he just shrugged his shoulders and nodded almost matter of fact as if to let me know, he knew what he knew and that was kind of that.

14 years later I am sitting here watching on the news an ambulance leaves the driveway of his home, the big gates, the crowds outside the gates, the coverage, the crowds outside the hospital, the Cause of death and what may have led up to it and the memory of this conversation hit me, as did the unstoppable tears.

A predicted ending by him, by loved ones and by me, but what I didn’t predict was how much it was going to hurt when it finally happened.

The person I failed to help is being transferred right now to the LA County Coroners office for his Autopsy.

All of my indifference and detachment that I worked so hard to achieve over the years has just gone into the bowels of hell and right now I am gutted.

I am going to say now what I have never said before because I want the truth out there for once.

Our relationship was not “a sham” as is being reported in the press. It was an unusual relationship yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a “Normal life” found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part. Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much.

I wanted to “save him” I wanted to save him from the inevitable which is what has just happened.

His family and his loved ones also wanted to save him from this as well but didn’t know how and this was 14 years ago. We all worried that this would be the outcome then.

At that time, In trying to save him, I almost lost myself.

He was an incredibly dynamic force and power that was not to be underestimated.

When he used it for something good, It was the best and when he used it for something bad, It was really, REALLY bad.

Mediocrity was not a concept that would even for a second enter Michael Jackson’s being or actions.

I became very ill and emotionally/ spiritually exhausted in my quest to save him from certain self-destructive behavior and from the awful vampires and leeches he would always manage to magnetize around him.

I was in over my head while trying.

I had my children to care for, I had to make a decision.

The hardest decision I have ever had to make, which was to walk away and let his fate have him, even though I desperately loved him and tried to stop or reverse it somehow.

After the Divorce, I spent a few years obsessing about him and what I could have done different, in regret.

Then I spent some angry years at the whole situation.

At some point, I truly became Indifferent, until now.

As I sit here overwhelmed with sadness, reflection and confusion at what was my biggest failure to date, watching on the news almost play by play The exact Scenario I saw happen on August 16th, 1977 happening again right now with Michael (A sight I never wanted to see again) just as he predicted, I am truly, truly gutted.

Any ill experience or words I have felt towards him in the past has just died inside of me along with him.

He was an amazing person and I am lucky to have gotten as close to him as I did and to have had the many experiences and years that we had together.

I desperately hope that he can be relieved from his pain, pressure and turmoil now.

He deserves to be free from all of that and I hope he is in a better place or will be.

I also hope that anyone else who feels they have failed to help him can be set free because he hopefully finally is.

The World is in shock but somehow he knew exactly how his fate would be played out some day more than anyone else knew, and he was right.

I really needed to say this right now, thanks for listening.

~LMP

Hello! October, 2009

But this past year has brought sorrow, too. Lisa Marie’s second marriage, to superstar Michael Jackson in 1994, may have been brief, but there was no doubting the depth of feeling they had for each other and she was devastated by his sudden death earlier this year.

Here, in a candid interview, the musician, who is currently working on a new album – her first in five years – talks about the tremendous support she had from her husband during that distressing time, how becoming a mum again has enriched her life and why she and her family would like to make the UK their permanent home…

[...]

You were in Europe when your former husband Michael Jackson died. How did it affect you?

There have been so many layers of grief in Michael’s death, so many different aspects and angles that have at times overwhelmed me, which I am still dealing with, to be honest.

I am incredibly fortunate that I have an amazing husband who has been unbelievably understanding and supportive throughout this process. He has cried with me, he has left me alone to cry if that’s what I needed. He has let me talk his ears off, he has listened while I talk others’ ears off, without annoyance or complaints. I have never met a more selfless and supportive person. That, along with the fact that I have been writing [songs] a lot and throughout, has helped.

London Evening Standard, 14th October, 2009

Michael Jackson’s ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley was close to tears last night when one of his records was played while she was on the dance floor.

Elvis’s 41-year-old daughter, who was married to the Bad singer in 1994 for less than two years, was at Mahiki in Mayfair with her mum Priscilla for the Paul Smith store launch party.

Our spy told us: “Lisa Marie was having a great time with her friends. She was dancing away until Thriller was played.

“Without warning, she walked off the dance floor and went back to her seat and looked really upset.”

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  1. forreal permalink
    January 18, 2013 1:08 pm

    Michael talking about Lisa Marie: (Ebony magazine 1994)

    Michael said their relationship reached a new plateau. “We went out together. Then we would talk on the phone… I noticed that we had come closer. We went to Las Vegas for The Jackson Family Honors [in 1993]. We later traveled to Atlanta for (former) President Jimmy Carter to visit children, but no one knew that she was there with me.
    “The brilliant thing about us is that we were often together but did not let anybody know about it. We got to see each other that way over the years. We were really quiet and comfortable with each other. That’s pretty much how the dating started happening.” It was during this period that Michael said their relationship changed from being good friends to lovers.
    “It kind of unfolded,” he said of the moment of truth. “We spent a lot of time on the ranch [his sprawling, multimillion-dollar Neverland] and just walked around and talked. It happened! It unfolded all natural. We could feel the feeling we had for each other without even talking about it. It was all in the vibrations, the feelings and the look in our eyes.”

  2. June 2, 2012 4:34 am

    The article doesn’t explain what they think is creepy, it just insinuates the note is creepy
    My point exactly, the article is about Michael desperate for sleep thus using Propofol which was pointed out in the article. TMZ said the Tupac hologram was creepy, so who cares? It’s not that deep of a topic to keep dwelling on it- its TMZ. If they meant the note was creepy by another way, they usually put all the intent in their articles but its whatever.

  3. June 2, 2012 4:23 am

    I thought Lisa gave Julien a bunch of stuff to sell. I don’t know if she knew the note was in there or whatever the case was-this is not one of her interviews; I think that’s too sketchy of a situation to judge her. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t care for her but finding excuses to jump on her is ridiculous to me.

  4. lynande51 permalink
    June 2, 2012 2:51 am

    You know what,say what you want to about TMZ but to me Creepy means Creepy. The article doesn’t explain what they think is creepy,it just insinuates the note is creepy. That is from the same “news” outlet that didn’t add one single adjective to the fact that someone is selling off Elvis’s crypt so say what you want… they wanted a negative conotation added to that note in my book.
    I also don’t look for reasons for the note to surface. It belongs to LMP no matter where it was because it was addressed to her. She could have burned it years ago but obviously didn’t for her own reasons. It does however say that he loved her and she loved him because the note is still in existence today.No matter how silly it was. I think I have a few silly notes left from past loves too that only make sense to me and him.

  5. June 1, 2012 6:28 pm

    I always thought there was something between Michael and Diana R. And it was she who was more concerned about the age difference. Michael has a long history of love for women, starting with his first grade school teacher at 6 yo or so, taking his mother´s jewellery to her as gifts. They were later returned. At age 12yo. he asker Joanelle Romero
    on the footsteps of the school to “go steady ” with him. Too bad she moved to New Mexico soon there after.Joanelle was in LA one week before Michael´s death and run into Jermaine ,to whom she conveyed an urgent message that she has to meet with Michael.
    Wonder why Jermaine did not get that through, he was in with Thome alright.

  6. shellywebstere permalink
    June 1, 2012 11:37 am

    @tatum,

    Because some fans believe it’s her who gave the notes to Julien and then asked to not sell it.

  7. nannorris permalink
    June 1, 2012 6:30 am

    Somebody is selling Elvis old crypt but the people at CNN find a personal letter that is signed by apet name regarding somebody being exhausted and cant sleep is the bizarre story they want to cover…I think they are pathetic..
    It is a very sweet letter that shows they had a real relationship..They want to skirt over it and still give MJ a bad wrap…

  8. Julie permalink
    June 1, 2012 6:11 am

    Thank you Tatum Marie – I am pleasantly surprised that my suspicions were incorrect.

  9. June 1, 2012 5:23 am

    I can’t speak for the way the rest of the media harped on it as creepy but TMZ shockingly did not mean it that way for once. There have been times where Levin told another to stop insinuating that Michael molested children- he was found “NOT GUILTY” and I have a few buddies who work there that could write some topics on this blog. If I had to make a list of the top worst media personnel Harvey would be near the bottom – not saying much but TMZ are the least of our problems.

    To another area of concern: Why are the fans using this as a ground to attack Lisa Marie when she did something sensible?

  10. June 1, 2012 4:26 am

    They say the reason they used the word “creepy” was because of the sleep, but they just wanted an excuse to reframe that note in a way which they could still make people associate Michael and his marriage to Lisa with that word. They do it all the time with him.

    I’m glad other news sites went with “revealing” “personal” “heart wrenching” instead of “creepy.”

  11. June 1, 2012 4:23 am

    @Julie
    I have a love hate relationship with TMZ and there have been things I’ve saw that were ridiculous and other times made sense. However, when they said creepy they were referencing Michael’s inability to sleep even then; they made reference to what led to his death, not Michael himself as creepy.

    Overall, I thought the note was adorable and obviously had some kind of hidden meaning between the two of them.

  12. Susan permalink
    June 1, 2012 3:42 am

    So these 2 idiots call this note “bizarre”? I thought it was a very sweet, private note from a husband to his wife. What stood out to me is Michael’s concern for his health and his “crazy for you” comment to his wife. Why don’t they mention that? Reminds me of Murray’s taping of Michael when he is speaking of building a children’s hospital. Even with evidence staring them hard in the face of Michael’s giving heart, these scummy people can’t help but resort to demeaning, mean-spirited insults. They just don’t get it. They disgust me.

  13. Julie permalink
    June 1, 2012 2:51 am

    Disgusting TMZ labeled it as “creepy” which is why people need to boycott these a** holes.

  14. sanemjfan permalink
    June 1, 2012 12:09 am

    Here is CNN’s report on the love letter from MJ to LMP that was supposed to be auctioned:

    Can you guys see the increase in the quality of the video? I shot it using my new HD camcorder! :)

  15. kaarin22 permalink
    May 15, 2012 1:40 am

    Re LMP´comment about MJ and her children I´ll translate,poorly I am afraid ,of a saying around here:” She (or he) says whatever her spit brings to her mouth.”meaning that what she says is very situational and without much thought,very reactive to the situation at hand.

  16. lynande51 permalink
    May 14, 2012 7:40 am

    I always forget her name too.

  17. May 14, 2012 7:25 am

    He considers Prince, Paris and Blanket to be like his siblings.

    Paris has said repeatedly that Omer is like a brother to her (specifically like a brother, and not a brother). Prince has also made comments thanking “monkey” i.e Omer.

    Omer also has an older sister whose name I always forget, but she’s in photos with MJ and the Bhatti’s too.

  18. lynande51 permalink
    May 13, 2012 5:46 pm

    Omer is a young friend of Michael. During the South Africa History tour is when he met Omer a young fan and dancer. He became close friends of the Bhatti family Pia, Omer’s mom and Riz, Omer’s dad.He considers Prince, Paris and Blanket to be like his siblings. They all went back and lived at Neverland for a time after the tour when Prince and Paris were very young. Pia was one of their nannies and Riz worked at the ranch. Omer is becoming an artist in his own right now in Norway. He has his own website.
    It might also be noted that in the press conference that Sneddon and Sheriff Jim Anderson held after the search of Neverland they were asked specifically about Omer and they said that they had known all about Omer for years. From that I gather they were bothering the Bhatti family with their zealous harassment of Michael too. Though Michael was not at the ranch the day that it was raided 19 year old Omer was along with two frieinds from Norway. Michael had let them stay there for three weeks. He was stayingin Las Vegas for about six weeks prior to the raid.
    When it came out about the raid one of Omer’s friends parents said that they were not afraid of Michael Jackson in the least but were very afraid of the police. I wonder what Omer could tell us about their questioning that day on the ranch and the years before it?

  19. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 13, 2012 5:29 pm

    Who is Omer Bhatti is he Michael’s relative or his freind?

  20. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 13, 2012 5:24 pm

    The reasons i took that article with a grain of salt exactly if she was worried about the kids then she wouldn’t have let them hang around MJ even after the divorce clearly in those pictures she doesn’t look bothered. They need to really stop adding MJ’s name to subjects that have nothing to do with him.

    BTW that article was from 2010.

  21. lynande51 permalink
    May 13, 2012 4:34 am

    In case anyone is wondering the man in the blue jeans next to Omer is Wayne Nagin, Michael’s personal security. I think he was the head of his personal security at that time after Bill Bray.

  22. lynande51 permalink
    May 13, 2012 4:11 am

    Well the photos that I showed earlier clearly debunk that statement don’t they? Then of course is the case of Reilly Keogh at Michael’s private funeral. That might have meant nothing to The Enquirer though. When did that person give the interview to the National Enquirer I wonder? That is a tactic that is becoming all to familiar I’m afraid. Everybody get ready now and we can all look for Michael’s name attached to articles that have nothing to do with him just like this one.Here let’s add the photos here so we can all see MJ having fun parasailing with his stepkids and Omer Bhatti so the timeline is clearly set for after the divorce. I think I’ll add the photo of Ben first so you can see that she had no qualms about Michael being around her son. So there, whose ever ex wife that was that talked about Michael Jackson to the National Enquirer!Just how silly is this going to get?

  23. Rodrigo permalink
    May 13, 2012 4:09 am

    The article makes very little sense IMO. How and why do you go from talking about something like that, to something slanderous about Michael Jackson?

    But it’s a tactic we’ve seen been done hundreds of times before.

    And did I see THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER somewhere?!

  24. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 13, 2012 3:47 am

    a quote from the link article below

    “Jason and I were talking to Lisa Marie one night and we asked her ‘Come on tell us the truth, why did you really divorce Michael Jackson?’ She said, ‘The reason I finally left him was that I didn’t want him to be in the same room as my children!”

  25. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 13, 2012 3:45 am

    http://gawker.com/5508855/jason-lees…as-and-cruises

    Something I found though i took it with a grain of salt check it out.

  26. TatumMarie permalink
    May 2, 2012 5:24 am

    @vindicatemj

    P.S. Unfortunately my attitude towards Lisa Marie is much worse than “animalistic” – she is a nobody for me, at least until she stops being a shallow mechanical doll.

    Right, I agree but in 1993 Michael spoke of his issues with Demerol. When he collapsed in 1995, Lisa was on her way out of the picture. Lisa didn’t invent anything but she still doesn’t know FOR SURE what she’s talking about. I remember watching a show where they were talking to the doctor who treated Michael when he collapsed in 1995- he mentioned that there were no drugs in Michael’s system. I have to find that video, I remember watching it-but at the time we were more concerned with Conrad Murray. Michael was naturally suffering either way you slice it.

    Many claimed that she and Michael had a lot in common when in actuality they had nothing in common. I think it definitely makes a difference when you’ve worked your behind off to acquire a certain status than when it’s just handed to you. Maybe that’s why she found everything he did manipulative because she’s never had to work that hard for her riches.

    I have to admit I get a little annoyed when others say: We can’t speak about her or we don’t know what happened in the relationship. True, but we can speak on her public actions and her own words just like we do with Michael and everyone else. Michael acted, spoke and lived his life practically the same- Lisa on the other hand changed immensely. No one is beating her up for the divorce; that was ultimately her decision (Michael told the Rabbi he will always try to make it work, which Lisa acknowledged too in her Oprah interview) she didn’t have the right to get upset when he stopped chasing her.

    It took every ounce of my being to be nice while writing this. I could have put so much more in here but I want to resort to name-calling when I sum up everything she’s done. I’m also irritated that it took her 15 years to do a halfway decent interview!

  27. May 1, 2012 1:32 am

    It is incredible that she had to tell the police that Michael used drugs,(RoemJ)And she had no contact with him.Read up on Wikileaks about Scientology.Only there will you get any real info. They keep secrets even from their members.And leaving them ..leads to a fate worse than death,Scientology is furious over Wikileaks.As we discussed religion some time ago this is relevant.

  28. Mona permalink
    May 1, 2012 1:09 am

    VMJ,

    you’re right, we all react differently to the same feeling. However, your last sentence (Even if he was only saying so and in fact loved her to his last day.) makes me quite sad. I hope for his sake that didn’t happen… I really hope so.

  29. May 1, 2012 12:52 am

    “there must be a misunderstanding here between what I meant and what everybody understood, because you guys are writing things I agree with, but maybe in a different way…I think my lenient attitude towards her might come from Michael’s attitude towards her. He never retaliated, did he? Maybe he was too soft and it would have served him better otherwise, but he still has my respect for that.”

    Mona, there is absolutely no misunderstanding. All of us are unhappy with LMP – each in his/her own way. It is only our reaction which is different – some people attack (which Michael never did!) and for some (like me) she simply does not exist. But the general feeling is that she let Michael down then and is letting him down now. No wonder that Michael made an effort to close his heart to her. Even if he was only saying so and in fact loved her to his last day.

  30. May 1, 2012 12:39 am

    “Forgiving her for the past interviews is one thing but she didn’t fully redeem herself in her last interview either. She would have everyone thinking Michael was a drug addict as if she was around him in the last 10 years. A drug addiction is what the media was speculating about in 1995 – the doctor who actually treated Michael maintained that it was not.”

    Tatum, Michael himself spoke of his problems with Demerol at the time, so Lisa Marie did not invent anything. But she makes lots of mistakes here:

    1) she thinks that Michael’s addiction to Demerol continued until Michael’s last day (it didn’t, he managed to beat it)

    2) she compares Michael’s case to her father’s (and her own) addiction which is totally wrong. In their case it was purely recreational while in Michael’s case Demerol was forced on him after the burn, and he wanted very much to get rid of the habit.

    3) she totally disregards the background for taking drugs – she and her father took drugs out of boredom , to add some “spice” to their lives while Michael’s life was full of so much pepper rubbed into his wounds that all he wanted was dulling the pain inflicted by it. Any “boredom” was out of the question in those circumstances – he prayed that the torturers would leave him alone, but they didn’t.

    Lisa and Elvis were bathing in fame, love and admiration, while Michael was in the focus of the worldwide hatred. He was subjected to terrible humiliation in 1993, went through the ordeal of a trial in 2005, but even after his full exoneration no one believed him and the old nastiness continued. How can it be compared with the life full of indulgence and craving for more and more pleasures Elvis and Lisa were living?

    The fact that she does not see the difference makes me think that she is stupid like no other. And the media plays up to her primitive interpretation of things, also pretending that there is no difference – while they know perfectly well there is a huge difference between the two! That is why Lisa’s “recipes” of treating the problem of drugs in Michael’s life did not work – instead of mentoring him she should have created for him a cozy little family space where he could feel comfortable and shielded from all his tribulations. And then he could have survived. People need some safe retreat for themselves and love, children and family can be such a shelter. Lisa Marie didn’t give him any of this. She probably wanted sex only and nothing else. She called it “love”.

    I would have to say that she thinks too much of herself only because she told Oprah that Michael was being retaliatory when he got Debbie pregnant. So she really believes Michael went to the extent of having a baby with Debbie to piss her off as opposed to naturally wanting children? What she fails to realize is that this was a plan put on hold because of her and just went back into rotation after she left.

    This is the result of her being unbearably self-centered. She was raised that way. The awful thing about selfishness is that egotists really suffer as a result of it. They are used to the whole world revolving around them, and when something goes wrong (which is inevitable) their world suddenly crashes and they feel extremely miserable.

    Lisa Marie is a victim of her upbringing and for this we should say a big thank you to her parents.

  31. Mona permalink
    May 1, 2012 12:25 am

    Hmm… there must be a misunderstanding here between what I meant and what everybody understood, because you guys are writing things I agree with, but maybe in a different way.
    Let me rephrase this:
    1. I don’t like Lisa either, BUT I felt sorry for her reading her MySpace back in 2009 (didn’t know all the facts then).
    2. I disagree with everything she said about Michael, BUT I don’t think we should stoop to her level even in this case.
    3. I don’t think indifference is worse than ‘animalistic’, rather the other way around.
    4. I can blame her for the anti-Michael interviews, but not for the failed marriages. Liz Taylor had a history of failed marriages and she was still Michael’s friend.
    5. She didn’t redeem herself in the Oprah interview, it’s true. She should have.
    6. I think my lenient attitude towards her might come from Michael’s attitude towards her. He never retaliated, did he? Maybe he was too soft and it would have served him better otherwise, but he still has my respect for that.

  32. TatumMarie permalink
    April 30, 2012 11:12 pm

    As far as what Lisa claims Michael said about Debbie Rowe, “one statement” that is something where we would have to take the whole conversation in because we don’t know in what context this was said. How do we know Michael didn’t have suspicions that she was still with her ex Danny? It wasn’t as if she didn’t have another man in the picture in some ways according to her own admission. This also doesn’t change the hint that if Lisa wouldn’t have filed for the divorce in the first place – none of it would have happened and Michael would have still been married to her, miserably.

  33. TatumMarie permalink
    April 30, 2012 11:02 pm

    @Mona
    The media is our main focus but in this particular article the focus is on Lisa Marie Presley so the comments are going to be based on that. There are women who have been abused and publicly cheated on that have not threw there ex-mates under the bus. You wrote : I think you can’t really judge anyone unless you are in their shoes.An individual could reason like this on one or maybe two incidents but Lisa has a track record of failed marriages, relationships and worse… anti-Michael interviews.

    Forgiving her for the past interviews is one thing but she didn’t fully redeem herself in her last interview either. She would have everyone thinking Michael was a drug addict as if she was around him in the last 10 years. A drug addiction is what the media was speculating about in 1995 – the doctor who actually treated Michael maintained that it was not.

    I would have to say that she thinks too much of herself only because she told Oprah that Michael was being retaliatory when he got Debbie pregnant. So she really believes Michael went to the extent of having a baby with Debbie to piss her off as opposed to naturally wanting children? What she fails to realize is that this was a plan put on hold because of her and just went back into rotation after she left.

  34. April 30, 2012 10:41 pm

    “we are all angry with the media and for good reason. I believe they are the real culprits here, actually, rather than LMP. Indeed, the ‘Presley family’ are treated as American royalty, but someone like Michael Jackson’s and his good deeds are not discussed, because they wouldn’t fit the agenda of portraying him as a freak.”

    Mona, I wouldn’t be so angry with the media if they had treated everyone in the same way they treated Michael. But no, they reserved this horrible crucifixion only for him, though judging by what Currie Grant (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/45284204.html) says about the Presleys their life story could have provided the media with much more sensation than anything Michael ever, ever, ever did.

    What I find totally disgusting is the injustice of it. Everyone should receive only his due but Michael got more than all the others taken together – which is all the more horrible since he didn’t deserve a single fraction of it. It was like persecuting the innocent for the crimes done by others.

    The more we look the more we see that hundreds of people committed crimes which Michael was accused of (but never did). I don’t mean the Presleys of course – it just coincided this way that a post about them came together with information about whole packs of people in Hollywood accused of ped-lia (which many of them admit!).

    This is the reason why I am so terribly angry with the media. The job of journalists is to do research, carry out investigation, tell the truth and be the “fourth” and independent power – the power which should provide people with true information and not help someone sell their products through disgusting lies.

    When I look at the way the media relentlessly harassed an innocent man like Michael I, frankly, do not see much difference between this free media and the journalists in my country who are also ready to lie to get support of the system or out of fear for their jobs or mere survival. The reason is different but the result is the same.

    “However, being furious about it doesn’t usually solve anything. Showing the real facts, like this site does, is the thing to do. And retorting to LMP’s ramblings with irony, as you said, is probably the best approach, in my opinion. Why give her more importance than she already has? Why be ‘animalistic’ towards her?”

    No, we shouldn’t be ‘animalistic’ of course! Either to her or to anyone – except, probably, ped-les! As to Lisa Marie she is so terribly primitive with all her ‘ideas’ that it is simply not interesting to listen to her. She seems to be stuck in stereotypes about Michael and is unable to move either forward or back.

    “She wasn’t in that room, so she cannot say”! Doesn’t she know that there are dozens of other foolproof ways of learning the truth? And that it is absolutely not necessary to stay by your husband’s side all the time to know that he doesn’t murder anyone when you are not looking. In short what she says is ridiculously primitive – but the problem is that people are listening to it! This floors me, using LMP’s expression….

    P.S. Unfortunately my attitude towards Lisa Marie is much worse than “animalistic” – she is a nobody for me, at least until she stops being a shallow mechanical doll.

  35. Truth Prevail permalink
    April 30, 2012 10:31 pm

    @Mona

    I too do not really hate LMP but i did get angry with what she said about Prince it was selfish what she said she did not even think of them or Mike’s family. Surely even you can see that was wrong of her to say that.

  36. Mona permalink
    April 30, 2012 8:23 pm

    VMJ,

    we are all angry with the media and for good reason. I believe they are the real culprits here, actually, rather than LMP. What they did is inexcusable and they have been doing it for so long that somehow people get used to it. Which is a shame, because they will just continue doing what they are doing. Indeed, the ‘Presley family’ are treated as American royalty, but someone like Michael Jackson’s and his good deeds are not discussed, because they wouldn’t fit the agenda of portraying him as a freak. However, being furious about it doesn’t usually solve anything. Showing the real facts, like this site does, is the thing to do. And retorting to LMP’s ramblings with irony, as you said, is probably the best approach, in my opinion. Why give her more importance than she already has? Why be ‘animalistic’ towards her, like TatumMarie said, when just stating the facts proves she was wrong to say what she said and do what she did? I don’t like her very much either, but nobody’s perfect. Her words become so important because the media uses them to blow things out of proportion. Why? Because that’s what people buy. So who’s to blame here, again, those to sell it or those who buy it? I’d say both…

  37. April 30, 2012 2:31 pm

    “I’ve read some of your latest comments on this and I am a bit surprised at how furious you are against this girl, even calling her names… I think you can’t really judge anyone unless you are in their shoes.”

    Mona, from all my latest comments which are far from being kind to LMP you and others can think that I contradict myself when I say that we should not feel fury towards her. I myself am not angry with her because how can you be angry with someone whom you consider a complete fool? (sorry for that). Can a fool suddenly become clever and jump over her head? (sorry again).

    And how can you expect a selfish spoiled princess to behave selflessly if she doesn’t ever know what it is and no one in her surrounding is any different? I mean Priscilla or the “Reverend” Rick Stanley. With people like that by her side what can we expect of her? If she manages to clear her head of all their crap it will be a miracle (which sometimes happen), but this is possible only if she stops listen to them, starts thinking on her own and listens to her heart.

    But what I am indeed angry with is the media which is much more brainy than LMP and should know better. Instead of writing an ironic comment on LMP’s ramblings they prefer to promote her stories the way they are because it suits their agenda about Michael. This way they mold public opinion and manipulate the minds of simple folks. Michael is still made out to be a “freak”, while LMP and the whole Presley family are painted almost saints despite all their escapades – an icon, a treasure, the nations’s pride, somebody that should be looked up to and revered.

    Okay, let them do it if they adore Elvis and everyone around him so much. But ridiculing Michael (who is the real pride of the nation) while simultaneously praying to the Presleys is simply unbearable. It is a grave offense to the truth to put them on the pedestal while throwing Michael into the mud. It is a huge violation of all principles of justice and ethics. It is a terrible crime against ordinary people as it teaches them to apply double standards to others. It is an embodiment of hypocrisy and if some readers don’t understand it… well, please spare me from writing further or I’ll go into even more fury.

  38. TatumMarie permalink
    April 30, 2012 7:21 am

    Thanks for the video links on Robert Sanger, I knew I had watched those somewhere. :)

  39. TatumMarie permalink
    April 30, 2012 7:17 am

    @Mona
    I can’t really speak for those who are calling Lisa Marie names, like I’ve stated before I don’t hate her but at the same time I’m being realistic. She is completely inaccurate when she talks about Michael’s drug addiction, even to the point that she claimed this was taking place in 1995 to the police, which I just found out about. At the end of the day, can you honestly look at her interviews throughout the years as a whole and say that she took up for Michael? No. Despite not being animalistic towards her, myself; I can understand why some here are.

  40. Truth Prevail permalink
    April 30, 2012 12:36 am

    @RoemJ

    Thanks for that :)

  41. RoemJ permalink
    April 29, 2012 11:41 pm

    Truth Prevail permalink
    April 29, 2012 1:46 am

    Is it true that LMP spoke to cops about MJ after he died? can someone answer that for me if you know thanks.

    _________
    yes she did, it was filed in the motion for the Conrad Murry trial the screencap of it was posted on this blog here

    [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/2ytogue.jpg[/img]

    http://spreadingthetruth777.blogspot.com/

  42. nannorris permalink
    April 29, 2012 10:13 pm

    Regarding the article that says MJ was thinking of both Jordan and himself being exploited and , after all he had gone through, the settlement being reached..

    I can really believe that was a big part of the reasoning because if he had gone through with even the civil trial , he would have won , imo , because the pictures didnt match and frankly I think Jordan did have reason, to worry about cross examination…
    I think he would have fell apart ..He could barely keep anything straight when he was telling his story to Dr Gardner.
    Everything had to be said in order..Couldnt answer anything out of order…
    And that would have been devastating to a child as well.
    Sneddon probably wouldnt have had anything to work with if the civil fell apart,,,
    Can you imagine Evan Chandler testifying??
    Notice they didnt call him in in 2005..Just June…

    Just more bad press and exploitation by the parents and the District Atty office, would have happened to both of them..

    When I think about the Francia matter , it is essentially the same.
    Here is this kid being badgered by the police, crying , and trying to say nothing happened ..He was traumatized by them and folded and yet 4 months or whatever later , he is still denying it..
    So if his greedy mom is looking for more money ,, at a later date… and MJ brought that police report into court, keeping in mind , I believe in that time line he was on tour out of the country as well,….and his mother had been selling tabloid stories , He would have won that too..
    Because of course the police didnt even bother to bring a case with Francia because it was so weak.
    There was really no case..
    Just more bad press and exploitation …
    Just as Mesereau pointed out during trial…
    So, again , just like he ended up doing in 2005 , he proved his innocence in all 3 circumstances.
    I do think MJ was one of the few people involved in this stuff who was NOT exploiting young children….
    And truthfully after looking into this mans life …I can believe he would actually be thinking in terms of the well being of those children., so I wouldnt be surprised if that was a consideration on his part…
    .

  43. nannorris permalink
    April 29, 2012 8:05 pm

    TatumMarie

    http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2009/06/michael_jackson_lawyer_bob_san.php

    this is the other one I was talking about with Bob Sanger

  44. nannorris permalink
    April 29, 2012 7:59 pm

    TatumMarie

    http://www.laweekly.com/2009-07-02/music/representing-michael/

    these are a couple of links about Bob Sanger.
    the youtube one is the one about how many times did he need to be exonerated..
    Interesting thing about how much info you get from this blog that it reminds you of things you have heard before..
    When I first saw these , I had no idea what a vicious prosecution , MJ had been put through and it didnt really register, what Sneddon was capable of…
    in the written article , Sanger says the briefcase wasnt MJ…..
    And he is talking about the book that a man was prosecuted for by the Nazi but the defense brought up the nude pictures on the stand when it was mostly text..

    I really wish Mesereau ,YU and Sanger would write a book abou thtis trial
    It is hard to imagine what mj went through,,
    he talks abou thow they raided his house AGAIN just for some plans they sould have gotten probably from the registry of deeds..

  45. Mona permalink
    April 29, 2012 7:44 pm

    You guys, I’ve read some of your latest comments on this and I am a bit surprised at how furious you are against this girl, even calling her names… I think you can’t really judge anyone unless you are in their shoes. They loved each other but they both made mistakes. Just imagine being her, he was like a drug to her, she was still in love with him for such a long time after they divorced, while he moved on and had children with another woman and she was struggling to get get over him even while being in other relationships. The whole thing really seems like a drug addiction for Lisa – she loved her drug but was trying to get rid of him using any means, whatever seemed to work. Was she selfish and mean? Of course! Can we stone her because of that? NO. She was a woman in love. With Michael Jackson! I bet he was more than any of us could carry.
    Plus… Just remember that she spoke those things about Michael while he was still alive and he did nothing to retaliate probably because he was so kind and thought it would be beneath him. Let’s try to be more like him, shall we?

    Love

  46. Truth Prevail permalink
    April 29, 2012 5:07 pm

    I also read somewhere that Nick Cage was on an Australian TV show and when he was asked why his marriage with LMP didn’t work out he said because “he could not compete with the gloved one”

  47. TatumMarie permalink
    April 29, 2012 10:51 am

    Robert Sanger, Michael’s attorney, touched on this in an interview but in 1993 Michael had been vindicated- by two grand juries. I don’t understand why people will respect the fact that he went to trial in 2005 but ignore that the case was tried in 1993. To be honest, it shouldn’t have went to trial in 2005 but the prosecution learned to be more treacherous in the last 10 years.

  48. Suzy permalink
    April 29, 2012 10:11 am

    @ Helena

    I think it were the Chandlers who leaked things to the media. I laughed when Ray Chandler mentions in his book about one document how it “got stolen” and leaked to the media. Strange that things always “got stolen” from them and got leaked to the media…

    Both Jordan’s declaration and Dr. Gardner’s interview leaked in February, 2003, just a couple days after the Bashir interview. Ray Chandler in the 2005 documentary of Bashir plays audio clips of the Dr. Gardner interview and he also quotes from it in his book. I’m pretty sure the Chandlers (Evan and Ray) leaked them in February, 2003 as well. I also think they leaked the settlement to Dimond.

  49. Truth Prevail permalink
    April 29, 2012 1:46 am

    Is it true that LMP spoke to cops about MJ after he died? can someone answer that for me if you know thanks.

  50. April 28, 2012 9:45 pm

    “Michael cannot understand why Jordy Chandler ever made these allegations over 10 years ago. “Michael does not know who manipulated Jordy Chandler to make these allegations at the time, nor has he ever understood why, other than the motives of some people to exploit both Jordy and Michael, for financial gain.
    “The reason Michael chose to pay Jordy Chandler a considerable sum of money, rather than be publicly vindicated following a trial, was to avoid being subjected to a media circus. “Despite his profound hurt at the allegations made by Jordy, Michael did not, at the time, think it right or proper to subject a 14 year old boy to prolonged litigation, the effects of which on Jordy appeared to be of little concern to those manipulating Chandler at the time.
    “Michael Jackson has respected the obligation of confidentiality imposed on all the parties to the prior proceedings, yet someone has chosen to violate that confidentiality and use Jordy’s 1993 statements to further sully Michael’s character.
    “It should be remembered that, at the time, the confidentiality obligation was a mutual one, designed as much to protect Jordy, who was then 14 years old, as much as Michael, since it has prevented Michael from fighting back and denying these allegations. “Whoever is now leaking this material is showing as much disregard for Jordy as they are determination to attack Michael. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2003/feb/10/michaeljacksontrial.music

    Lynette, a great find! I’ve seen parts of this statement in some other sources but this one seems to be full and this is very valuable. It was made on February 10, 2003 which was after Bashir’s interview and after the Chandler’s so-called “declaration” which was released the next day after the documentary aired (as far as I remember). I wonder who could release that document? Could it be Evan Chandler or Ray Chandler?

    If it was Feldman it shows that he was far from being impartial in the matter as it was a grave violation of his obligations under the confidentiality agreement. If it was Evan or Ray Chandler it shows the real worth of their concern for the well-being of Jordan – almost ten years passed and here they are, raking it up all over again. And if it neither Feldman, nor Chandler – could it be Victor Gutierrez or Diane Dimond? Or Tom Sneddon?

    And I think it is absolutely true that Michael didn’t want to subject Jordan to the ordeal of the trial. He was probably the only person who took care of the boy’s well-being in that situation. And this could be one of the reasons why he settled.

  51. TatumMarie permalink
    April 28, 2012 9:30 pm

    Not only reneged on having a family but divorced him and I think that was the ultimate no no, trying to use documentation to control him like everyone else in his life. Michael would have stuck it out but she liked to play games.

  52. April 28, 2012 9:23 pm

    “I can understand the emotioal turmoil but I wish she didnt have a world stage for this garbage.. Bottom line is he dumped her and she has been making excuses about it ever since..”

    Nannoris, I prefer not to discuss who loved whom and how someone should have behaved. This should be left for some chat rooms which this blog isn’t. My job is to search for the truth of Michael’s innocence and present the necessary proof. If Lisa Marie had said something more coherent on the subject I would have been the first to applause her, but unfortunately at the moment she does not live up to my (and anyone’s) expectations.

    Will I express my justified anger at her for that? No, I will not – because it is useless and just a waste of time. If she doesn’t provide what we expected of her I personally will look elsewhere for proof of Michael’s innocence.

    The reason why I’ve made a post about Reverend Rick Stanley and LMP and Michael is to show what powerful external forces were pressing on this totally immature girl at the time (and Michael too).

    The other goal of the post is to show the media’s insolence and the incredible hypocrisy of the so-called “righteous” Christians. Just think of it – this liar Rick Stanley is preaching the Gospel to people!!! All he deserves is rotten tomatoes and not the official status of a Reverend.

    If this is what “true Christianity” is I will surely side with heretics like JWs.

  53. nannorris permalink
    April 28, 2012 8:52 pm

    vindicatemj
    She does live in the past and as Char said, she is all about “me” and how she can reconcile their breakup.
    How he could have moved on so quickly..??
    She couldnt believe it ..
    I thought she had told Oprah she really didnt see any drug use …but now , looking back she realizes or something..
    This is a convenient way for her to put a bow on the end of a marriage that didnt work out..
    She said MJ was high as a kite with Bashir,
    He looked more like he was on anti depressants at times , but in her mind , she has figured out that this must be the case …it somehow gives her an “in” so to say , with the tie in of her fathers tragic death and somehow , she has inserted herself back into a situation , she had nothing to do with.
    She said to someone else”its something Ijust have to go through”
    She is on her 4th husband..
    Give it a rest..
    But people give her a forum because they want to hear about MJ…
    .
    The man had moved on after she reneged on having a family for him..
    I would have been furious if that was done to me and I would have moved on too.
    There is nothing wrong with having certain expectations when you marry somebody and she knew how important children were to him..
    Apparently more important then she was and she was dealt a devastating blow by this..
    Elvis daughter gets dumped for a nobody nurse.
    She seems to have written all kinds of current songs about MJ also..
    I can understand the emotioal turmoil but I wish she didnt have a world stage for this garbage..
    Bottom line is he dumped her and she has been making excuses about it ever since..

  54. April 28, 2012 8:47 pm

    “Are you serious or joking? Really all of that over one photo? LOL More info about their confusing relationship can be read here http://spreadingthetruth777.blogspot.com/

    RoemJ, no, I am not joking – this is the way I see it. And as regards this blog I think it is covering the LMP/Michael relationship only from the point of view of this particular author. The selection of the quotes shows that her approach is biased (mine is probably too). However I am grateful to that blogger for the information she provided about LMP’s disclaimer.

    My perception of the relations between Lisa Marie and Michael is closer to life and not to the black-and-white movies most people are discussing here. Human psychology is much more complex than is generally thought. People say one thing and think another. They say that they hate each other, but instead they are dying to be together. They brag that they are indifferent and then they cry themselves insane when the person they offended dies, because they know that now they cannot change anything.

    Let me be direct about one thing – I don’t think that Lisa-Marie is too brainy a girl. She is also spoilt, selfish, used to having her way and many more other things. If she manages to step over her selfishness she will realize that real love for someone is being selfless to another person and it will be only after that that she will probably see the need to stand up for Michael and speak of his innocence.

    Now she is at a stage when she finally realized that he loved her. Good.

    If she goes on reflecting in the same tempo I am afraid we will have to wait another 15 years for her to also realize that he was totally incapable of doing any harm to any kid – whether she was in that room or whether she wasn’t.

  55. April 28, 2012 7:49 pm

    http://spreadingthetruth777.blogspot.com/
    “if it is true , she supposedly talked to the police after mj died and said he had a drug problem”.

    Nannoris, I’ve seen that information too and think that Lisa Marie did not know a thing about Michael by the time he died. She didn’t really see him for a very long time – since the moment they parted sometime at the end of the 90s or early 2000s (if I am not mistaken). So she remembers him the way he was at the time. However he made a huge leap forward – and all this due to his children of course. He beat the Demerol addiction and used propofol only at the moments when he could not do without it, like the rehearsal period in 2009 or the period of the concerts themselves.

    She could not even imagine how greatly he had changed his life. She always seems to live in the past and is catching up with reality too late.

  56. Char Stanley permalink
    April 28, 2012 3:01 pm

    I think she did pretty much say that in the Oprah interview but then she later left the door open by saying that the only people that know what really happened behind closed doors was Michael and the Boy. I was very dissapointed as many of us were when she said that. Thats where she is so wishy washy about things. She said she Never saw anything that would make her believe hr did anything like that. Now what she says is True. When it comes down to everything in black and white, her statement is true. Someone could come out tomorrow and say Michael had molested them. It would again be one word against another. You can only look at the evidence and make a conclusion by what you know of the person. Thats where I dont understand why she said that, even if its true, you know in your heart what you believe and you stand behind that person if you Love them. Like Liz Taylor did and his other true friends.
    LMP is a mess in her own head. Which she also sort of admitted. Her biggest problem is her “me ism”. The world revolves around her and how it effects her. “Why me?” She needs to learn how to look at things, and if she had any true spiritualism going on she might be able to see things in their proper perspective. In a way I feel sorry for her. She has never had any real “Class” to disrespect him after their divorce. He never did that to her. It shows her maturity level and again “me ism”.
    All of her reasoning is she needed to break her obsession with him and so she did everything to be indifferent and not have feelings for him, so being angry replaced those emotions. It was a coping mechanism. I think she regrets that now. She has had to look back and reflect. After his death all those feelings came back that she had buried. We all make mistakes in life and we cant go back so all we can do is deal with them and move on. I think she was trying to say that to Oprah. It did take him passing for her to come to understand him better for some reason. She will never stop talking about him because thats the only thing people want to hear from her,so it will be her only attention. Im surprised she doesnt just write a book because the music thing is never going to work out for her in my opinion. All in all I know she loved him but she was too screwed up herself to help him and I know he loved her. Its sad it couldnt work out for them because they could have been such a powerful team. Some people are just not right for each other and although Michael thought she was perfect because she wasnt after his money or name. In that way she was but because of that she also had a control and power issues, jealousy maybe even. Spoiled other say- maybe yes. She never learned how to handle it. So when two powerful people bat heads, its not going to work. I do very much think her mother was a big impact on her also. The ideas she put in LMP’s head didnt help. It was a mother in law nightmare so to speak.
    I try to understand people and where they are coming from (in their shoes) like Michael did. It makes it easier to be forgiving of anothers actions. I definitely agree that LMP should just say “In my heart I in no way believe he molested children. The type of person he was, He was not capable in my opinion.” She should never have left that door open. That I still dont understand.

  57. April 28, 2012 10:10 am

    She specified it was things between a “man and wife” and definitely not children:

    Elvis Presley’s daughter, on a concert tour in Australia, said in an interview broadcast Monday that she saw things she “couldn’t do anything about” during her 1994-96 marriage to Jackson.

    “I was in no way referring to seeing something inappropriate with children, as I have stated publicly before. I never have,” Presley said in a statement released by her Los Angeles publicist, Paul Bloch.

    Without elaboration, Presley said during the talk show interview that she felt powerless during the marriage to Jackson, who is charged in Santa Barbara County with child molestation. The interview aired on Australian Broadcasting Corp.’s “Enough Rope.”

    “In saying I saw things, I was specifically referring to things in that relationship with us that went on between us at the time as husband and wife,” she said.

  58. nannorris permalink
    April 28, 2012 7:32 am

    lynande51

    Thank you for that article..Bashir is a slimeball for sure..
    I think it is interesting that MJ really seems like the only adult who was not exploiting these kids..
    their parents, Sneddon and Zonen, the press who was reporting this stuff,Larry Feldman…
    Why doesnt anyone refer to the damage Bashir did to Gavin by exploiting him also in that documentary
    Meanwhile , what about Michaels children.
    I was reading the article by Mesereau called random thoughts about dealing with a hostile witness..
    He said Jay Leno told the police that he supported them but he had to be honest, he thought the kid was looking for money , heard the mother in the background and that he was looking for “A Mark”
    But his lawyer told Mesereau he wouldn’t testify to it until he found out the police had recorded it…then he showed up…

    So he essentially knows Mj is innocent and he not only didnt want to testify to it, but chose to rip him to shreds every night in his monologue..
    I wonder if it ever occurred to him Michael was the sole parent of three small children …. children , who werent looking for a mark…. and that trial drove them from their home..

  59. lynande51 permalink
    April 28, 2012 6:44 am

    I’m not sure if this belongs here but it is a thread about Michael settling the 1993 civil suit. I will probably update my last post by adding this article there or if Helena thinks it belongs somewhere else she can put it there. This is an arrticle that appeared in the Guardian UK the days after the Bashir Interview. It has statements from the interview that were cut out and in it it explains why he chose to settle. It seems like Bashir did his very best to not let the world know the most important parts. One that the reason that Michael settled the case was the same one that he was always defending. He would never hurt a child

    Michael Jackson’s statement

    Statement on behalf of Michael Jackson regarding allegations made in the UK press on Sunday
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    MediaGuardian, Sunday 9 February 2003 19.01 EST
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    “In response to a number of allegations made against Michael Jackson in the Sunday newspapers, in the United Kingdom, Michael has authorised the following statement to be made.

    “Michael Jackson is authorising the release of excerpts from video-tape taken while Bashir was interviewing Michael Jackson, in which Martin Bashir was recorded.

    “The film shows extraordinary scenes of Martin Bashir praising the way Michael treats children and commenting on how good a father he is.

    “These video excerpts were taken in the eighth – and last – month of Bashir’s shooting with Michael and after the time Bashir and Michael were in Berlin. “In his film, Bashir says that it was in Berlin that he began to change his mind about Michael’s treatment of his children. Yet, the Jackson footage clearly shows that Bashir was actually continuing to praise Michael’s abilities as a father and Bashir making many statements about how he feels it is a pity that the world is so quick to criticise Michael.

    “On the face of it, either Martin Bashir was lying to Michael or was misleading his audience in his voice-overs on the film.

    “Bashir knew that Michael’s personal cameraman was filming at various times during the course of his interviews. “In relation to the 1993 allegations made by Jordy Chandler which have again been recycled by certain newspapers, Michael has authorised the issue of the following: Michael cannot understand why Jordy Chandler ever made these allegations over 10 years ago.

    “Michael Jackson then, and has ever since, vehemently denied that these events ever took place.

    “Michael does not know who manipulated Jordy Chandler to make these allegations at the time, nor has he ever understood why, other than the motives of some people to exploit both Jordy and Michael, for financial gain.

    “The reason Michael chose to pay Jordy Chandler a considerable sum of money, rather than be publicly vindicated following a trial, was to avoid being subjected to a media circus. “Despite his profound hurt at the allegations made by Jordy, Michael did not, at the time, think it right or proper to subject a 14 year old boy to prolonged litigation, the effects of which on Jordy appeared to be of little concern to those manipulating Chandler at the time.

    “Michael Jackson has respected the obligation of confidentiality imposed on all the parties to the prior proceedings, yet someone has chosen to violate that confidentiality and use Jordy’s 1993 statements to further sully Michael’s character.

    “It should be remembered that, at the time, the confidentiality obligation was a mutual one, designed as much to protect Jordy, who was then 14 years old, as much as Michael, since it has prevented Michael from fighting back and denying these allegations.

    “Whoever is now leaking this material is showing as much disregard for Jordy as they are determination to attack Michael.

    “Michael is aware that certain former employees are, or are planning to, sell certain stories to the press. As with all celebrities, he is vulnerable to being exploited and abused by anyone who chooses to betray his trust, in return for financial gain.

    “Michael Jackson said on Sunday: “I am bewildered at the length to which people will go to portray me so negatively. I will say again that I have never, and would never, harm a child. It sickens me that people have written things that portray me as a child abuser.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2003/feb/10/michaeljacksontrial.music

  60. RoemJ permalink
    April 28, 2012 5:46 am

    vindicatemj permalink*
    April 27, 2012 12:28 am

    Lynette, what a priceless photo you’ve found! Look at Michael’s eyes – they tell you all you need to know about the impasse he found himself in. Seems like he is deeply in love with Lisa-Marie but knows that their life together is impossible.

    I never knew that eyes alone could say that much…

    And what is there on the garment he has in his hands? Is it tears? Is LMP crying?

    What a photo!

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    Are you serious or joking? Really all of that over one photo? LOL I never heard such a thing regarding what his eyes were saying in that photo. Most fans have said he looked tired or either annoyed.–which I would agree with. He looked to me like he is tired or ready to go home and see his children. He was not still in love with her at this point. He said in the Shumely tapes his heart had closed to her after she denied him children. In an interview during that time he referred to her as a friend and said she was sweet and that he “LIKED” her. Thats the big clue right there, showing “LOVE” was never a feeling he had for her anymore, or I should say it wasnt a strong feeling as it once was in the beginning.Lisa has even written a song on her new album which is clearly about Michael and Debbie and how he’s over her. Its titled “Over Me” Look at the lyrics….So she knew it too but kept on following him and hoped he change his mind and of course he didnt which made her a very bitter woman…sadly turned against him and became his enemy.

    “Over Me”

    Can it be you’re over me
    She took my place
    She saved the day
    Others see you’re over me
    When she took my place
    She saved the day

    I seen that she laid and did
    Whatever you need
    And how when she can bake that cake
    I wouldn’t bake
    What a breath of fresh air
    She is in my way

    More info about their confusing relationship can be read here http://spreadingthetruth777.blogspot.com/

  61. RoemJ permalink
    April 28, 2012 5:14 am

    @julie unfortunately that would happen when pigs fly. I will never understand why she just cant defend Michael like a true friend would. Saying you cant say for sure if he’s a child molester because you weren’t in the room is absolutely sickening to me. And for that answer I will always believe her love for him is phony and she only speaks about him for the attention. she never was in love with Michael only in love with the ‘highness’ he made her feel.

  62. nannorris permalink
    April 28, 2012 2:50 am

    I dont think we will hear her address anything that might give mj own children alittle less to deal with..
    The allegations are not central to her because she only is concerned about herself and her relationship with MJ..
    She is big on saving face …
    How many people on this board have read some of the court transcripts ?
    I am betting most have..
    I will also bet that she has not, because it isnt about her.
    Probably hasnt read the rabbi book either..
    She should but it sounds like it would be too much effort on her part..
    I wonder where all those letters are begging Michael to let her have his baby ..saying she would have as many babies as he wanted….
    That would be embarrassing if they surfaced ..must be somewhere , mj never threw anything out..

    She feeds into the negative about MJ for years , trashes him on tv during the lowest time in his life and speaks up after he died that he must have loved her as much as he could and by the way , he is a drug addict..
    She is a piece of crap..
    I looked at her during the last Oprah interview and she appeared to be making it up as she went along..
    Saying he cried when she said she was indifferent..
    How self serving..
    She is just an embarrassment…
    If she was smart she would at least go on youtube and check out all the bs she has said over the years so she can keep her stuff straight.

  63. lynande51 permalink
    April 28, 2012 1:32 am

    @ Julie
    Yes Exactly!!! In those words.There’s tons of pictures out there of him holding her kids, both of them, Ben too. So it is time for her to put up,because it is way past the time for her to shut up.

  64. Julie permalink
    April 28, 2012 1:18 am

    What I would also love her to say is there is absolutely no way in hell that I would even consider marrying someone that I had even the slightest idea he would molest children.

  65. lynande51 permalink
    April 28, 2012 12:53 am

    @ Tatum
    I don’t hate Lisa Marie. I just think that she should own her own shit, so to speak. First she went on every talk show she could to”try to distance herself from MJ”. Then in the middle of the worst time of his life she says “things she saw”. If you read the whole interview she just left it hanging out there and never clarified it in the interview. So the next thing you know the DA wants her in front of a Grand Jury and suddenly “the media twisted what she said”. They did not twist it! She said it, and she was even asked several times in the interview to clarify it but nope she didn’t.Not only did she not clarify it she flat out refused to clarify it.
    I just wish once that she would say something flat out. She never has and because it benefits her to say it the way she does, because it creates doubt, she uses it. Still. I would just love to have her answer this question one time: Lisa how did Evan Chandler know about you? What is she afraid of? Evan can’t go after her anymore and the settlement does not specify her because she is not MJ’s heir. His real heirs still bear the burder of her wishy washy waffleing answers to questions about Michael.

  66. Truth Prevail permalink
    April 28, 2012 12:32 am

    Just checked out Lisa Marie’s Twitter it turns out she is following Karen Faye ( I thought she called her a bitch) and she is also following Austin Brown.

  67. TatumMarie permalink
    April 28, 2012 12:26 am

    @lynande51, nannorris

    I agree with both of you. Lisa did fuel the rumors and didnt really take a stand. I don’t hate her but I still think she’s weak.

  68. Truth Prevail permalink
    April 28, 2012 12:08 am

    @nannorris @lynande51

    Thanks for those links and sharing that info now reading that blog of a timeline of LMP dissing MJ i am horrified she was/is cold and just downright nasty now i know people say stuff about their ex’s but she went overboard i now get the impression she’s a spoilt immature person who thinks everything that happens in this world is because of her i mean her thinking prince being born was an attack towards her she is a spoilt sport. Then her on Howard Stern show totally disgusted her saying what MJ was going through (2005 Trial) was a blessing she keeps making herself out to be this “Victim” now i honestly am wondering what Mike saw in her! then she had the audacity to show up at his funeral in my opinion she was no good to MJ in his final years so she was no good to him in death now she trying to pretend she was by his side all the way through please! even Debbie Rowe never sold Michael out she should be extremely ashamed of herself.

  69. Julie permalink
    April 27, 2012 10:58 pm

    @nanmorris – I definitely agree with you. Oprah never missed a single opportunity to ask anyone about MJ, especially the charges and drugs. I watched the segment with Diana Ross just to see if Oprah would go there and she didn’t so I agree and feel that Ross put that disclaimer out in the very beginning to not even go there with her. Also, I totally believe that Diana Ross was the love of his life, but either she didn’t share those feelings or didn’t feel a relationship with him was appropriate due to the age difference. We will never know unless she tells it.

    LMP could have always taken the high road and just said she was not going to discuss it. By not doing that during all of those interviews, she opened the door for the interviewers to become increasingly condescending toward him and their relationship. If she was being interviewed to promote an album she could have very well just said she would only be discussing that aspect of her life and nothing more. How on earth she could have “loved him” and allowed the interviews with Oprah, Sawyer and Stern where they openly mocked him, I will never know. I also remember during the trial, she was interviewed by Larry King and the two of them laughing about some comment she made about how it wasn’t her mess to clean up anymore, etc.

  70. nannorris permalink
    April 27, 2012 8:55 pm

    Dianna Ross was interviewed by Oprah a while back and MJ name didnt even come up..I am sure Oprah would have loved to ask about mj and his will , since that would get her ratings , but I feel Ms Ross had told her in advance not to bring up MJ.
    Ms Ross has class.and talent.
    LMP doesnt
    Ms Ross has something to talk about other then MJ or her father.
    LMP doesnt.
    If she were to say no MJ questions, no one would talk to her..
    And besides, she clearly is obsessed with him herself…
    I wonder if someone suggested she come out with her album at the time, it did,so she would be doing interviews and speaking of mj so it would generate more interest.
    I also wonder why a grown up woman would not have the presence of mind to prefix her statement about things she had seen as personal ,but not criminal..
    She was feeding it ..loser
    .

  71. lynande51 permalink
    April 27, 2012 8:00 pm

    I have a link to an interview that LMP gave in March of 2003 just when Sneddon was getting ready to call the witnesses to the Grand Jury. She told Andrew Denton on his show Enough Rope this.

    http://www.abc.net.au/tv/enoughrope/transcripts/s1062187.htm

    Then the next week when she finds out that her big mouth got her a ticket to the Grand Jury she turns around and says it was taken out of context.

    http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=189:2004-march&catid=167:2004&Itemid=75

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-299969/Presley-asked-evidence.html

    http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,627856,00.html

    There are a couple of corrections that should be made to this. Lisa Marie was never asked to sign a confidentiality agreement about her marriage to Michael, Debbie Rowe was asked not to give information to taboids about their sex life. Why? Because the lies that were told about Michael hurt Debbie more and she would have been the girl to get on TV and tell people what it was really like.
    Here is what Michael said about Lisa.

    http://popdirt.com/michael-jackson-responds-to-lisa-marie-presley/14515/

    The thing is she was/is always saying things about Michael even in her latests interview with Elle. She gave an interview to Elle magazine about her upcoming album Storm and Grace and of course she now says that they had an affair for four years after their divorce.However, and you can correct me if I am wrong but didn’t she say that the reason she went on Oprah to talk about Michael was to get it over with so when she releases her album she doesn’t have to talk about him. The Oprah interview was purely self serving and only to soothe her conscience or egoe whichever it is.

    http://www.elle.com/Pop-Culture/Celebrity-Spotlight/A-New-Life-Album-for-Lisa-Marie-Presley

  72. nannorris permalink
    April 27, 2012 6:58 pm

    truth prevail..
    here is a blog regarding things that LMP said about MJ.
    I will tell you right now, its an anti LMP blog, but if you go farther down , if it is true , she supposedly talked to the police after mj died and said he had a drug problem..
    Frankly I think she lies like a rug to sooth her ego..
    If drugs were the reason he collapsed he would have been shipped off to rehab again…
    The doctor would not have done an interview saying different

    imo, she is a selfish childish individual who had everything handed to her and really couldnt understand how hard Mj had worked to be a success and how important his image was to him, that this Chandler crap devastated him..
    She doesnt care about her own image.She makes a point of trying to shock people imo.
    Because she really has no talent.
    If she did , she would have had doors open for her with her fathers name…
    And you know what??
    If the girl is a spoiled jerk…so what ..
    I wouldnt care what she did or said privately..
    But I think her going on tv and basically trashing him, when he was in the fight of his life…. because she was either jilted or ashamed she had ever loved somebody who was getting such grief, reflects extremely poorly on her.
    Keep in mind this woman is a mother..
    Did this mother ever think about Michaels children and what they were being put through?
    NO.. because she is a f@cked up person herself..
    She only thinks in terms of herself, not even her own children or she wouldnt go on tv and say the disgusting things she has said to Howard Stern..
    Now everybody appreciates the UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL he was ..
    NOW she comes out to say she was the love of this unique individuals life..
    I just have no respect for her that she is trying to play the widow Jackson..
    I think , ifshe plays it too much..Tom Mesereau will drop a bomb about her not helping MJ during trial..that is my guess….because he doesnt suffer fools easily..

    http://spreadingthetruth777.blogspot.com/

  73. Truth Prevail permalink
    April 27, 2012 5:42 pm

    So i have been looking into the LMP and her connection to MJ recently and i just found out she said on Oprah that drugs were the reason she divorced him i think she might be fibbing there. And it turns out she even said Michael was “High as a kite” during the bashir mockumentary! I don’t about anyone else but when i watched that for the very first time i did not get a sense Michael was out of it did any of you?

    Also found out she was at his funeral she kicked him down when Michael was facing the fight of his life! But still came flocking same with that other idiot Feldman.

    Now i do not know what to think of LMP. the way she was talking about Michael and drugs you would think she was working for Conrad Murray’s team and just gave fuel to the media to continue saying Michael was a drug addict she has done a lot of damage.

    I wonder what she thinks of the Conrad Murray tape that was played in court. I know she was once married to MJ but the thinks she says especially the drug stuff makes me wonder she does not know what she is talking about especially Michael’s final years she doesn’t know as much has she hoped she did. I don’t remember Michael ever bad mouthing her in public.

  74. char stanley permalink
    April 27, 2012 1:32 pm

    I never sen this photo before either. It looks like she is laughing. Maybe something disgusting is on his jacket and she is laughing about it? His eyes say he is not too thrilled with the situation.

  75. TatumMarie permalink
    April 27, 2012 7:31 am

    “No, they just sit there, look at each other and masturbate.’ I mean it’s STUPID. I wish people would shut the fuck up and leave him alone.”

    Janet is hilarious, I never knew that she said that.

  76. April 27, 2012 12:28 am

    Lynette, what a priceless photo you’ve found! Look at Michael’s eyes – they tell you all you need to know about the impasse he found himself in. Seems like he is deeply in love with Lisa-Marie but knows that their life together is impossible.

    I never knew that eyes alone could say that much…

    And what is there on the garment he has in his hands? Is it tears? Is LMP crying?

    What a photo!

    MJ and LMP

  77. Truth Prevail permalink
    April 26, 2012 11:19 pm

    And also the fact Priscilla was probably pissing in her ear saying “he doesn’t love you he is after Graceland blah blah blah” pfft as if he would need her fortune he had plenty of his own and i don’t understand how marrying LMP would give him ownership of the Elvis Catalog Priscilla needs to get her head out of her A*** if she really thought that! she should know by now how big MJ Is. And she needs to stop pretending she is Yoko Ono because Priscilla was not the widow of Elvis Presley and the fact she constantly cheated on him while she was married to him seriously they were like a pair of swingers and the fact Elvis was hunting her down when she was the tender age of 14 and they have the cheek to call MJ a pedophile just saying! see the double standard the media portray.

  78. Truth Prevail permalink
    April 26, 2012 10:51 pm

    I just feel sad to the idea that the media and others wanted to see this marriage fail i don’t think they were immature i don’t think it was doomed from the beginning either. I think they had a connection and i do think Michael loved her not used her in anyway i think he was really into her like even the small stuff he said to Donald Trump show that “I kissed the most beautiful girl in the world” i think he was in love with her deeply. However MJ saying to Lisa if you won’t have my kids Debbie will was the wrong thing to say i think Michael really wanted to settle down with Lisa have kids with her and i think he truly believed she was the one. LMP saying i am not going to get pregnant or have your child must have hurt MJ very deeply i know i would be if a girl said that to me perhaps then Mike didn’t try to stay into her. Mike was probably going round in circles wondering why she feels like that you know he could have been beating himself up about it thinking she must truly dislike me if she doesn’t even want to have my child like what is her game.

    And as for Debbie as i said before i think he just married her so he doesn’t have kids out of wedlock like his mother advised him.

    Then i also think about what David Guest said in Icon! He said something along the lines that MJ was married to his career and that was his wife makes you think was MJ ever destined to have a wife and would any of his wives be able to handle the heat. However it could have helped if MJ was dating someone again this time undercover not publicized.

  79. TatumMarie permalink
    April 26, 2012 9:02 am

    Well, we really don’t know which women were closest to Michael, but Lisa…I’m kind of in limbo with her. She is definitely fixated with comparing Michael to her father when in actuality they had nothing in common other than the facts that they both had a connection with her and fame. I don’t think it’s fair to say for sure what happened in their relationship when Michael didn’t talk about it and Lisa retracted a lot of what she said about him prior in her last interview with Oprah.

    Some want to make excuses for her and say that she was angry but Michael or any other women that spoke about him has ever done what Lisa did so if she’s that vindictive she didn’t deserve him anyway.

  80. char stanley permalink
    April 26, 2012 12:59 am

    You are right about that, especially when they never had it before. Although LMP was the closest. I mean being Elvis’ daughter made her a tabloid target but no one can endure Michaels sort of harassment for sure. I guess thats why he had to hide the women the way he did after that, but you certainly cant have a traditional relationship the way he wanted hiding your woman. But he knew the sacrifice of his life and I think he did well making do and found some happiness. At least he had his children. Really Thank God for Debbie doing that for him.

  81. April 26, 2012 12:28 am

    CHAR STANLEY: It takes two to get along and both have to work on the relationship. It cant be one sided. So you are correct in my op. They were both immature. I really feel Michael needed to be handled very tenderly and even then a woman might have a hard time making a relationship work with him. LMP was just NOT that right person. She was too much like him in her stubbornness. I think she was too demanding and it became a sort of power struggle. You know if you don’t like what someone is doing you have to try to explain it and discuss it in a way they can understand, not just start yelling and screaming. I think she was that type of person. He didn’t like confrontation so he would run away, which is not the right thing to do either. One of his faults was being too nice and not being able to say no in some instances that got him in trouble. I really do think LMP tried to save him so to speak. Aren’t all us women like that? We get a man and then try to change them and mold them to our ideals. Its true. As he was so magnetic and even men say they wanted to never leave his presence when around him. That intoxicating feeling she talks about I could totally understand- she said he was like a drug to her. And what do we do with drugs when we are addicted. We want more and more and we certainly don’t want to share.
    Michael was not used to knowing how to be in a relationship. When Lisa says “I think he loved me as much as he knew how” That is her understanding now. I think she may be right. I think he was in Love with the IDEA of being in Love and having a family and LMP seemed like the only choice to him. But they never got the time to really test their relationship out and get to know each other better. She was loving how much he needed her when things were bad for him and in some way he probably did use her. The timing of getting married did look bad. They could have waited and kept on dating longer, but why get married then?
    Don’t get me wrong, the relationship was real but it really was doomed from the beginning and would have taken a lot more effort on both their parts to make it work. LMP admits that now, she has matured and realized her mistakes and I think she loved him more than he loved her. I don’t understand why she was running around with her ex, to make him jealous? She just did stupid things. And Michael, his family… what examples did he have? His father and brothers cheaters. So I agree Mona. It takes two to tango as they say. I Love Michael and we would all like to think we would be perfect for him but it would take a lot of character to handle all that.

    Char, this was a great comment worth repeating! As regards the “lot of character” part let me add that Michael faced so much hardship in his life that the woman beside him was to have been truly heroic. Debbie Rowe was a strong, devoted and loving person – but even she, according to Michael (in Bashir’s film) couldn’t handle all of it. It seems to me that Michael was doomed to be alone. No woman could have survived the amount of harassment, hate or lies Michael had to endure and the inevitable effect it had on him.

  82. Mona permalink
    April 25, 2012 9:45 pm

    Char,
    that’s a very sweet comment and it kind of fits what I was thinking of also: the immaturity, the lack of positive family models, Michael being very difficult to handle and being too nice to set things straight at the same time. It was doomed from the start, as was the marriage to Debbie, which he rushed into as well, obsessed by the idea to have children. A pity it didn’t work out, I believe both these women loved him a lot, but hopefully he found someone along the way, someone shielded from the eye of the press.
    You last sentence is a killer, though, ‘’we would all like to think we would be perfect for him”, lol. You’re right, we would and even more than that, we’d all like to think we would have been able to save him, just like Lisa. Unfortunately, none of us could…

  83. char stanley permalink
    April 25, 2012 9:25 pm

    It takes two to get along and both have to work on the relationship. It cant be one sided. So you are correct in my op. They were both immature. I really feel Michael needed to be handled very tenderly and even then a woman might have a hard time making a relationship work with him. LMP was just NOT that right person. She was too much like him in her stubbornness. I think she was too demanding and it became a sort of power struggle. You know if you don’t like what someone is doing you have to try to explain it and discuss it in a way they can understand, not just start yelling and screaming. I think she was that type of person. He didn’t like confrontation so he would run away, which is not the right thing to do either. One of his faults was being too nice and not being able to say no in some instances that got him in trouble. I really do think LMP tried to save him so to speak. Aren’t all us women like that? We get a man and then try to change them and mold them to our ideals. Its true. As he was so magnetic and even men say they wanted to never leave his presence when around him. That intoxicating feeling she talks about I could totally understand- she said he was like a drug to her. And what do we do with drugs when we are addicted. We want more and more and we certainly don’t want to share.
    Michael was not used to knowing how to be in a relationship. When Lisa says “I think he loved me as much as he knew how” That is her understanding now. I think she may be right. I think he was in Love with the IDEA of being in Love and having a family and LMP seemed like the only choice to him. But they never got the time to really test their relationship out and get to know each other better. She was loving how much he needed her when things were bad for him and in some way he probably did use her. The timing of getting married did look bad. They could have waited and kept on dating longer, but why get married then?
    Don’t get me wrong, the relationship was real but it really was doomed from the beginning and would have taken a lot more effort on both their parts to make it work. LMP admits that now, she has matured and realized her mistakes and I think she loved him more than he loved her. I don’t understand why she was running around with her ex, to make him jealous? She just did stupid things. And Michael, his family… what examples did he have? His father and brothers cheaters. So I agree Mona. It takes two to tango as they say. I Love Michael and we would all like to think we would be perfect for him but it would take a lot of character to handle all that.

  84. Mona permalink
    April 25, 2012 6:23 pm

    I understand she started to badmouth him after they broke up because she was still in love with him and hurt (not that it’s an excuse), but honestly him not showing up or calling for a month and telling her that his friend Debbie would have his child wasn’t very nice either… I have to tell you I’m a bit disappointed in him because of that. Any other opinions? Am I wrong about this?

  85. kaarin22 permalink
    April 25, 2012 4:20 pm

    It was a love-hate reationship at least on LMP´s part.Had it not been for Michael what would we know about LMP today?In 2011 she supposedly had a “meltdown” and balloned tri 165 lb. I take it that meltdown is the word for nervous breakdown in scientology. She had to return to La from GB for months to restabilize.,to be taken care of by her scientology friends.

  86. Mona permalink
    April 25, 2012 9:48 am

    Thank you all for the info on this, i kind of feel the same way about her, that she wasn’t necessarily a good person, however at the same time I can’t help myself from feeling sorry for a woman who was in love with a man for such a long time, following him around the world. Also being left because you wouldn’t immediately have kids is not very nice either, especially being left for someone you believed to be just a friend of your husband’s. Don’t get me wrong, I like Debbie a lot better than I like Lisa, I think there were feelings there between her and Michael and she does not look arrogant and cold, like Lisa does. But still, I very well understand Lisa’s reaction when Michael told her that if she wouldn’t have kids his friend Debbie would. Of course she left. That she regretted it afterwards and couldn’t get Michael out of her head for such a long time is a pity for her, but for sure it must have been really difficult for him as well. He still loved her, but later on he developed feelings for Debbie as well. Quite complicated…

  87. lynande51 permalink
    April 25, 2012 7:47 am

    Yep she could just stand up for herself and him but she still doesn’t. Her thing with Oprah was supposedly because she was going to release an album that year so she wanted all of the Michael questions out of the way. Just more of the same thing.

  88. April 25, 2012 7:05 am

    Then later she gets sick so he has an excuse to call her.

    She wasn’t sick, she had a breakdown because of the divorce and Michael getting married and having Debbie’s baby so quickly, “I needed to be wiped off the floor after that”. That’s when MJ is seen back with her again.

    I think Michael told Frank the Arab excuse for the same reason he gave it about Omer and Debbie and why he gave Karen Faye the same excuse when he fired her back then too, he didn’t want the Cascio’s or other people to be jealous, he wanted to make them feel like it was because of reasons beyond his control so he wouldn’t have to explain himself. He was known for giving out excuses like that, letting other people take the blame so that they wouldn’t have their feelings hurt. He’d been dating her a whole year pretty much before they found out they were married and they only found out when the rest of the world did. So he had this family he was close to and he hadn’t been telling them about it the whole time, I can imagine he’d believe they might feel insulted. Not to mention how to excuse the fact that she was still married when they got together.

    Lisa and Mike finally stopped seeing each other in late 1999, Debbie had had Paris in 1998, so it wasn’t because of her that they broke up. Michael said he’d closed his heart to her after she’d said she didn’t want his kids, so I think she finally realized he had no real intention of getting back together with her, so she started rebounding with all those other guys. Lisa only started to trash Michael in 2003 when she was promoting her album, it was after the Bashir doc and everyone was making her feel embarrassed for having been with him, so she distanced herself like everyone else. It wasn’t a cool thing to do and I think it reflects greatly on her sense of maturity and grace that she chose to behave like that. She could’ve stood up for herself, let alone Michael, by saying she married him because she loved him and she doesn’t need to apologize for it to anyone. But she didn’t and she’s paying the price for it now.

  89. lynande51 permalink
    April 25, 2012 4:47 am

    @nan
    Neither am I but I do think he loved her once but the no I’m not having kids deal killed that one.As for what Frank said about their marriage that excuse has been given for why he married Debbie too. I think this is just what I call guy stuff. Here’s how it goes. Lisa leaves Michael thinking that he will come running after her. He didn’t. She files for divorce. He is hurt but he still isn’t going to go after her.He has his pride. When asked what happened he gives his guy friends the typical guy answer. I didn’t really want her anyway because the last thing that a guy is going to admit to a guy is that this woman hurt him. Trust me on that. Right David?
    Then later she gets sick so he has an excuse to call her. He does so she goes running all over the world with her kids trying to get him back until Debbie ends up pregnant again and he annouces this on TV. Then she goes back to the US all mad and gives an interview or 2 or 3 trash talking her ex. She is no different than a million other women out there with the exception that she gets national face time when she does it.
    The LMP and MJ story is just about a married couple that just would not act like grown ups, just like all the other married couples out there.

  90. nannorris permalink
    April 25, 2012 4:26 am

    lynande51

    I didnt know some of those photos were taken in the 2003 raid..
    So how does Zonen say MJ and LMP were never really together?pfft
    I guess cause they just wanted to because if they took their nose out of the tabloids , they would have seen they were around..
    But that wouldnt have helped their case either..
    I agree that LMP couldnt wrap her head around him having “nursey” as she called Debbie , as the mother of his children, over her..
    Lets not forget when Debbie could no longer have children< he went to a complete stranger, an unknown surrogate instead of her…
    That has to be a kick in the stomach…
    Ego, Pride, and just plain spoiled brat who was used to getting her way.
    Didnt work that way with MJ..

    Find it interesting that the first person to call her the day MJ died was John Travolta texting her if she was alright and she hadnt heard what had happened..
    Evident;y people close to her knew she was carrying a huge torch for him…

    And she continues to see things only in the way that suits her ego..
    He didnt die like Elvis..He was killed by a doctor , yet she now blames the breakup on drugs..NOT TRUE….
    She likes to say that Elvis and MJ death was something that she just had to go through..??
    She married 2 men since mj , the current one she has twins with…
    ..How is she involved in his death??
    He moved on and she didnt obviously.
    I wish she would just admit that ..I would have more respect for her, if she could be honest, but I dont think she is honest with herself..
    When Oprah asked her if MJ had to die for her to believe he really loved her…..???????
    I dint even understand the question…and she said Yes , like she is 12 years old…and it was big romance,
    By the way I do get a kick out of her saying MJ couldnt tell who was using him or whatever..
    What did she think Oprah was doing to her..
    She only really talks to her about MJ..
    It is like she needs some kind of validation that she was the love of his life…
    She is a very insecure person,,,
    Sorry I am not a fan of the girl..lol

  91. lynande51 permalink
    April 25, 2012 3:10 am

    There are yays and nays about Michael and Lisa but mostly when I think of Lisa I think of the things she doesn’t do or say until it is too late.
    It is true that she went after MJ after their divorce. She was on the History tour with him in Munich, London, and South Africa. Debbie was in Paris at a Hotel with Prince. That part is true. What she doesn’t do is explain that. She says things like seeing Prince’s as Michael’s retaliation. That needs futher explaining. She needs to tell the world that she just could not get her head around the fact that Michael left her for someone like Debbie. To her she just could not or would not see Debbie as any kind of real love competition but apparently she was.That is called vanity.She might be able to call Prince some kind of retalition but how does it explain Paris when she and Michael were running around together all over Europe? He had feelings for Debbie too or the offer would not have been made or accepted it’s as simple as that.Her ego was bruised and badly because Debbie just did not measure up to what she thought her comeptition would be. If people doubt that those kids are Michael’s, concieved in the natural way, look no futher than the woman scorned and her behavior. That tells the story.
    She then set out on a campaign to end that marriage and show the world what she wanted them to see, that she was “better” than Debbie.Lisa was not a nice person.Though she may have grown some as a person when I read through her post that she made to her My Space page the theme that runs through there is me me me. She says that she knew Michael was doing drugs in December of 1995 when he collapsed yet we have the aricle from the Doctor that treated him saying something entirely different. She just didn’t want to believe it and that is not someone who should be married to the other person. Her not having MJ’s kids and then for years later saying things like all I could see was the custody fight. That explains the end but that doesn’t explain the beginning when she said right away.Here are some photos of Michael and Lisa after the divorce in 1998. The ones of him parasailing are from a video called Zacca Lake that was taken by the cops in the raid in 2003.There are the photos of Lisa and her kids Reilly and Ben. I’m also going to add the video of Omer and Michael parasailing so you can see when it was and that the tabloids only want to tell one kind of story.








  92. nannorris permalink
    April 25, 2012 3:05 am

    And of course, your own sister coming out with press conferences, for cash, saying you are a criminal didnt help either..

  93. nannorris permalink
    April 25, 2012 3:00 am

    How many times do you have to be exonerated , to be exonerated by an ambitious District Atty , who wants to use you as a vehicle to fame and a higher office…Or the press , for that matter?

    I had always thought of Fatty Arbuckle after starting to read about this thing with MJ, and come to find out he supposedly carried a picture of Fatty around with him .
    He was a big star, who had a rabid D.A. after him too,.
    When MJ could have wrote a check and have been done with it..Michael didnt because he was innocent..
    The tape came out with Evan and Schwartz ..not good enough to case doubt on the character of the father for Sneddon..
    He thought he would be exonerated when he stripped down for these complete strangers and it didnt match.He thought it would be done…Sneddon wouldnt give up..
    Doesnt seem to notice the allegations change..
    They interviewed all these families that were friends of his, and they all said nothing happened.. , but Sneddon still wouldnt give up..
    Imagine how humiliating having all your friends and family put through all these uncomfortable questions……young children being asked disturbing questions , saying they had naked pictures all because you are friends with MJ,
    he must have been horrified…..
    I think the mentality of Sneddon helped Feldman to get them to settle too.., because Sneddon was waiting in the wings and this wasnt just a normal person ,,he is a power crazed nut who wants to make an example out of you .
    MJ probably was told by the lawyers ..settle it move on and people will forget because of all the good you have done for children all over the world..
    That didnt happen of course…
    Sneddon was still pursuing him.
    still looking for victims…..
    went to other continents and came up with nothing ..
    F.B.I. files all said nothing…
    NOTHING was ever going to clear MJ for Sneddon because it became a pissing contest for him and he was dead set on having the last word.
    .
    Then the Arvizo family fell from the sky…
    we all know he bent over backwards to put this to trial..

    And look what happened ..MJ still went to court and won 14 times, nobody in the media seemed to care , Very few people concentrated on the malicious prosecutors and STILL, after being totally cleared, he had to leave his home because the might come after him again..
    And these prosecutors STILL are saying he got away with something..
    THEY are the ones that got away with something..

    This is a link to Fatty Story..http://history1900s.about.com/od/famouscrimesscandals/a/fattyarbuckle_2.htm

  94. Mona permalink
    April 25, 2012 1:44 am

    I have very mixed feelings about Lisa-Marie… I remember reading her post on MySpace after Michael’s death and it was so touching, I was crying for him, for her and with her… What she wrote there seemed so genuine and I totally understand how you feel when you failed to help someone, especially someone you love(d). However seeing the two of them together has never convinced me of her character. Of course I might be wrong, but she just seems so mean… People who are shy seem that way sometimes, it’s just their mask that they use to be protected against the outer world. I hope it was all for real, I hope they had their moments of happiness. Everybody deserves to be loved.
    Maybe her interview with Oprah could be added to this post?

  95. Julie permalink
    April 24, 2012 10:26 pm

    What is the sad fact of the entire settling thing is that people still use that as sign of guilt (i.e., Joy Behar). What sanemjfan said is absolutely right, it is always cheaper to settle a claim than it is to litigate it. What those that use this to accuse Michael do not seem to realize is that this was a civil suit and that settling of civil lawsuits happens every single day. I do think that based on what was said in the Frozen in Time Seminar, Cochran and Feldman were pushing to settle. If the case had gone to trial and Michael had won, Feldman and the Chandlers wouldn’t have gotten a dime. He didn’t was to risk that I’m sure so if he could get in Cochran’s ear and say let’s try to settle so that Michael can get on with his life and everyone can move on, etc, then it was a big payday for him.

    I previously worked as a paralegal at a winery and one of the employees was on an airplane traveling for business and had 2 cocktails during flight. When the plane landed he got up, opened the overhead compartment to retrieve his suitcase and as he pulled the suitcase out, it slipped out of his hand and fell hitting a nearby passenger. According to her medical records, she was not injured other than a bump on the head, but she chose to sue for negligence. Being that he was an employee on a business-related trip – the company was named in the suit. That poor employee was so torn up having to go through the stress of a deposition, possible trial and having to put the company in that situation — he practically made himself sick. The insurance company stepped in and negotiated with the plaintiff and they reached an agreement and the case was settled. Had the plaintiff not been able to reach an agreement, the case would have gone to trial and the trauma would have been greater for our employee. He was so relieved to have it over and done with.

    Now, that’s nothing compared to what Michael went through. Our employee most certainly didn’t have to be photographed naked and endure total humiliation both publicly and privately. So one can only imagine that Michael was more than relieved to just get rid of the Chandlers. Little did he know, that would be used against him for years.

  96. lynande51 permalink
    April 24, 2012 10:19 pm

    Some of the comments here are a bit off the mark. Michael’s insurance company settled the case. That is apparent in the Confidentiality Agreement where it uses the terms Qualified Assignment. A Qualified Assignement is a legal term for a certain kind of structured settlement that is non taxable. It was a Qualified versus non qualified because 1.) it was paid to a minor. 2.) it was paid in increments over time. This case also qualified for something called Alternative Dispute Resolution where the court (judge) decides if it going to go to mediation, arbitration or neutral evaluation.

    https://www.liberty-life.com/omapps/Satellite?c=Page&cid=1039735127671&p=1037792383906&pagename=Life%2FPage%2FLifeFull

    http://www.courts.ca.gov/3074.htm

    http://vindicatemj.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/1993civilsettlementagreement.pdf

    It’s also imortant to note beginning on page 5 and going through the agreement that until the payments were made in full the claims in clause 1-6 would not be dismissed. They were dismissed on signing the document without prejudice meaning that Jordan could sue again for the same claims in clauses 1-6 until the payment was complete.The payments were not complete until 1999 according to reports and if I remember correctly Larry Feldman’s testimony. Then it would be complete and it would be dismissed with prejudice meaning he could no longer make the claims in clauses 1-6. So Michael didn’t even buy his way out of the allegations at that time as so many people think.

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Dismissal

    This is what Sneddon obviously did not understand because the two terms mean something entirely different in criminal versus civil cases and because he never went out of his criminal law box he thought what he thought.He thought that it meant it could not be tried because some judge dismissed it,because it had been brought in bad faith according to the terms the way he understood them.

    http://definitions.uslegal.com/d/dismissed-with-prejudice/

    Michael also had to drop claims of “wrongdoing” (extortion) against any of the Chandlers according to the settlement agreement.That was because Larry Feldman told the judge that it was Jordan that Pellicano accused of extortion not just Evan.Pellicano gave asworn statement that he did not include Jordan in the claim of extortion.So that claim by Feldman was just a legal maneuver to get the upperhand in the case and it gave him one because Jordan was only 13 at the time and could not be charged.Jordan was however precariously close to his 14th birthday at which time he could be charged with either perjury or extortion.

    http://www.shouselaw.com/extortion.html

    Michael could not make money off any appearance where he proclaimed his innocence which is why Evan tried to sue him over his interview on ABC with Lisa Marie.So I guess we know now that he was not paid for that appearance because that case was dismissed after going through court mandated Arbitration.Poor Evan:(
    The thing is Michael could have taken them to court I think if Ray Chandler were in fact in partnership with his brother in writing the book which is why he always denied that he knew anything about what came before the allegations became public. He could have sued them too if he wanted to over Gutierrez’ book because it obviously is a colloboration between Evan and him.Instead he sued Gutierrez for Slander. Slander covers any medium no matter what he used to do it because he was suing Gutierrz not a tape. You can’t sue a fictitious video tape you have to sue the person that said there was a tape. So when the jury found that he was guilty of slander he was guilty of slander in the book, on TV, on the radio or on a soap box, it didn’t matter. The jury found that Gutierrez slandered Michael. That means that he lied about him in case anyone wonders.
    Do I think he settled because of LMP. I think he asked her what she thought of his prediciment and she gave him just as poor advice as everyone else because this settlement didn’t stop anything from happening except that Evan couldn’t be charged with extortion.
    Tom Mesereau did not author the 2005 trial pleading about the settlement, Brian Oxman did. There was nothing wrong with that brief either because he was trying to explain what happened in a civil settlement to the court (judge) as to why it did not signify guilt on Michael’s part and settlement amounts did not matter. As a matter of fact according to the settlement his legal team was supposed to litigate the exposure of the settlement amounts if a court asked for them.
    As for doing it under duress the whole thing was under duress don’t you think?

  97. char stanley permalink
    April 24, 2012 10:06 pm

    Thank You. That was my guess or assumption. Makes sense.

  98. Julie permalink
    April 24, 2012 10:05 pm

    @Char – their claim was the Michael Jackson was negligent because he interfered with the parent/child relationship.

  99. char stanley permalink
    April 24, 2012 9:34 pm

    Very good reply. You said what I basically was trying to say but much better. And all the frivolous lawsuits against Chandler. LOL.. how appropriate. That is the way of the world isn’t it? People trying to figure a way to get something for nothing. in my OP it has gotten out of hand and attorneys are the most responsible for that… another topic of discussion entirely.

  100. char stanley permalink
    April 24, 2012 9:24 pm

    Okay Julie, I understand but then what was the basis of settlement according to the insurance company. In order to settle, they had to claim some negligence on Michael’s part. What was the negligence listed as? I understand the analogy but your insurance company is on your side unless evidence proves otherwise. If you insist you did nothing wrong, how can they settle without your consent unless, like I said they have proof otherwise from other sources. I can see if someone is suing you and you decide that its cheaper for you to settle than fight the case, its your option. Normally, people don’t have insurance on themselves in the way Michael did. He himself was like a corporation, the insured interest is his money earning potential. I imagine it was an agreement in conference between Michael (the corporation), his attorneys (advisers) and the insurance company. They all agreed it was cheaper to settle, although I’m sure that was important to Michael, that would not be HIS main reason, but I think all the pressure and turmoil and people pressuring him to get it over with and put it behind him, finally lead him to that decision. The reasoning being to get it out of the news, end the dragging on of the whole thing. Out of sight out of mind so to speak and he could get on to making music and making dollars.
    @suzy I have never read that book by Geraldine but plan to. Havnt got to it yet. Understanding the whole insurance thing has been hard for me. I agree with you. Ive seen so many statements made… trying to decide between whats hear say or not? Still trying to figure it out.

  101. sanemjfan permalink
    April 24, 2012 9:17 pm

    An insurance company can force a settlement if they feel that settling is cheaper and more expedient than going to trial. Ray Chandler said that Evan was forced to settle a few frivolous medical malpractice lawsuits in 1994, after he received his settlement. Some of his patients saw a big payday when they filed their lawsuits, and they were successful in their legalized extortion attempt.

    Someone’s lawsuit actually went to civil trial, and she realized that she was losing, so she made up some phony story about Evan sexually abusing her during a dental procedure, and the judge threw out the case! From page 226 of “All That Glitters”:

    After the media announced that Evan controlled his son’s fortune, several of Evan’s patients all of a sudden threatened malpractice suits against him. Most of these claims were so frivolous they died a quick death. One or two were paid because the amount was so small it was more costly for the insurance company to defend than to fight. And one went to trial, but was dismissed when the plaintiff, knowing she was losing, attempted, in the middle of the case, to admit new evidence that a repressed memory had surfaced of her being sexually molested while under sedation in the dental chair.”

    I think the reason that some fans push the narrative that the insurance company “forced” MJ to settle is because it makes MJ look as if he wanted to take it to court and emerge victorious, but the mean and evil insurance company thwarted his plans! Although MJ certainly wanted to defend himself in court and not let Evan earn a dime from his lies, he probably realized that it was in his best interest to settle, due to the impending criminal trial, and the possibility that his defense strategy would be exposed and picked apart by Sneddon during the civil trial, and it would have strengthened Sneddon’s case in the criminal trial.

    Another mistake some people make is that they think that MJ was forced to settle by the insurance company under duress, but in all likelihood they probably gave him an ultimatum and said if he didn’t settle, they wouldn’t insure his civil trial.

    When you look at the big picture, whether or not MJ was “forced” to settle is very trivial and irrelevant, as he fought bitterly to have his day in criminal court by asking the judge to delay the civil trial, but his request was denied, so that shows his true motives. The settlement wasn’t a sign of guilt (just as it wasn’t a sign of guilt for Kobe Bryant, Bill O’Reilly, and Ben Roethlisberger) , and in my opinion settling was the right thing to do.

    There are some fans who may think that settling was a big mistake, but many of them don’t realize the situation that MJ was in, and I’ve seen fans erroneously say that the settlement stopped the criminal prosecution! But in reality there is no “right” or “wrong” decision when it comes to settling a lawsuit. There are pro’s and con’s either way, so you just have to pick the lesser of two evils.

  102. Truth Prevail permalink
    April 24, 2012 9:07 pm

    ughh hate the fact what LMP said on her Myspace its obvious when she first saw MJ in the ambulance she was thinking the circumstances were the same for her father but the circumstances are different MJ never died of prescription drugs but died of a irresponsible doctor. hope she knows that now

  103. Julie permalink
    April 24, 2012 8:51 pm

    An insurance company will step in and pay, but only on a negligence claim. Had the Chandlers not dropped all of the other charges, the insurance company would not have settled and paid the claim. It’s much the same as if you have an accident and your insurance company handles a lawsuit if one is filed. If you were drunk when you had the accident, you are on your own — but if it is a basic wasn’t paying attention and accidentally hit you (neligence), the insurance company will settle the claims and then just send you a letter stating the claim was settled.

  104. Suzy permalink
    April 24, 2012 8:44 pm

    @ Char

    To be honest I’m not completely convinced of the insurance company thing. I know the insurance company eventually paid the bill, but whether they “forced” MJ to settle – I’m not sure of that. There was an article at the time about how Johnnie Coachran pressured the insurance company to pay (not the other way around). There’s nothing wrong with it and that doesn’t mean Michael was guilty. I find the explanation that Geraldine Hughes gave in her book far more compelling than this whole insurance company thing.

    I know that Mez mentioned the insurance company in a motion and I’m sure he didn’t just pull it out of his a**. If he said that he probably had reason to say that and had evidence to back it up. But until I see that evidence I refrain from using this defense about the insurance company. I think what Geraldine Hughes wrote is very logical and understandable in itself even without the insurance company.

  105. char stanley permalink
    April 24, 2012 8:29 pm

    @Suzy
    That is right. That is very much and probably the main reason for settlement. I think it all had a lot to do with it. Just think of all the turmoil in that decision. lawyers coming at you, insurance company coming at you and then your family and Im sure Lisa Marie also.giving her opinion. Im sure at the time she was just concerned about his well being. The stress of it all was tearing him up. I still think the photos are what pushed him over the edge in that decision. I know some people have said that the insurance company settled and he didnt have a say, is that really possible in something like that? In all the interviews with Michael on the subject, I never heard him say I didnt have a choice. If it was true wouldnt he have said that. If he did I never saw it. Please someone give me the link to that info.

  106. Suzy permalink
    April 24, 2012 3:17 pm

    @ ladybyron68 & Me

    Michael settled because he was put in a very difficult situation legally. This is well described in Geraldine Hughes’s book Redemtion which I recommend to everybody wanting to know why Michael settled. To sum it up:

    Two proceedings were going on parallely: a criminal and a civil proceeding. It’s the criminal proceeding that can result in jail time for the alleged perpetrator, the civil can only bring you money. The Chandlers filed their civil lawsuit in September, 1993, less than a month after they made Dr. Mathis Abrams report the case to authorities. In that they demanded $30 million from Michael. This is very unusual, because normally civil lawsuits are only filed after the criminal case is completed. At least when you seek justice, not money.

    The problem with the civil case preceding the criminal case is that it can potentially violate the defendant’s constitutional rights because it can give the prosecution in the criminal trial a major advantage because they have the opportunity to monitor the civil trial and study the defense’s strategy. They can then adjust their claims and strategy in kind. Furthermore, unlike in a criminal proceeding, where the defendant can constitutionally refuse to be deposed without consequence, a defendant in a civil trial cannot refuse it free of consequence. A deposition in a civil case, held prior to a criminal proceeding, has the potential of violating a defendant’s Fifth Amendment right to refuse to testify in a criminal case. The prosecution can use the testimony from the civil deposition in the criminal trial.

    In addition, the burden of proof in a civil trial is lesser than in a criminal trial. For example, hearsay evidence is allowed in civil court while it is not allowed in criminal court. So a civil trial is riskier even if the defendant is innocent. And if Michael had lost the civil trial it could have prejudiced the jury in an upcoming criminal trial too.

    There have been many precedent cases where civil proceedings have been frozen to let the criminal ahead beacause of the above mentioned reasons. Geraldine Hughes cites such cases. According to such precedent cases: “When both criminal and civil proceedings arise out of the same or related transactions, the defendant is entitled to a Stay of Discovery and trial in the civil action until the criminal matter has been fully resolved.”

    So Michael’s attorneys were fighting to get the criminal proceedings ahead, while the Chandlers were fighting for the civil proceedings to get ahead. This is also proven by this part in Ray Chandler’s book All That Glitters. The conversation is between Larry Feldman, the Chandlers’ civil lawyer and Evan Chandler:

    „Later in the afternoon, after everyone had consumed their holiday repast, Larry Feldman called Evan with news they could all be thankful for. “Hey, Evan, you gotta hear this one. Howard Weitzman demoted Fields again. They definitely don’t want your deposition, or June’s deposition. They don’t want to preserve anything. If they’re gonna make a deal they don’t want anything on the record about Jackson.”

    No shit! Larry, these guys are in a real mess.”

    “Yeah, they fucked this up unbelievably. What could be better? But I’m going forward. We’re going to push on. So far there ain’t a button I’ve missed. The only thing we gotta do is keep the criminal behind us. I don’t want them going first.”

    Larry had said it before, but it hadn’t registered in Evan’s brain till now.

    “You mean if they indict, the criminal case automatically goes before us?”
    “Yeah.”
    “Jesus Christ!”
    “Right! So we don’t want that.”

    “How would you feel if the DA let you try their case?”
    “Oh, I’d love it! That’d be the best.”
    “Would they let you do it?”
    “I don’t think so.”
    “Don’t you have Jordie’s testimony to trade on?”
    “Yeah, but I want to use it so they’ll stay behind me. Then they won’t have to deal with this either.”
    “It’s to their advantage to stay behind you, right?”
    “Right, to their political advantage.”

    Well, well…

    Remember that it’s the criminal trial that can put one in jail and the civil trial is only about money!
    Yet, Michael’s attorneys wanted the criminal to get ahead, while the Chandlers were trying to delay it to keep the civil ahead!

    Precedent cases were supporting Michael’s side, however the Chandlers had one trump card: Jordan’s age! Geraldine Hughes:

    “Michael Jackson lost all four motions. It was obvious from a legal standpoint of view that the scales of justice were not pointing in Michael Jackson’s favor. Instead, it was weighing heavily in favor of the 13-year old boy. Michael Jackson’s attorneys were applying precedent laws which were applied in a similar sexual battery case. Pacers Inc. v. Superior Court specifically held that it is improper invasion of the defendant’s constitutional rights not to stay civil proceedings where a criminal investigation is ongoing. But Mr. Feldman’s trump card was, “a child’s memory is developing,” and their inability to, “remember like an adult.” This law was designed to protect a small child’s ability to recall for prolonged periods of time after being a victim and/or witness to a crime. This case, however, involved a 13-year old boy, who was soon to be turning 14 years old.”

    Using this reasoning, Feldman filed a Motion for Trial Preference for the civil proceedings. “This is a special request to have the trial heard within 120 days after the motion is granted”. Hughes:

    “Mr. Feldman filed a declaration by Dr. Evan Chandler in support of the Motion for Trial Preference which had one statement: that the child was under the age of 14. That was it! Dr. Chandler did not state anything else in his declaration, which is a written statement under oath declaring statements of truth. I have never seen a declaration concerning an important case this short in my entire legal career. A declarant will usually attest to several facts, especially concerning an important case like this one. They will also declare that said facts are true and correct and state their willingness to be called to competently testify under penalty of perjury. Is it possible that the information that Dr. Chandler declared was the only information he could competently testify under penalty of perjury?”

    Under extremely unfavorable conditions, Michael’s and his attorneys might have found themselves in a position where they would have had to fight and defend Michael on two fronts at the same time – in both a civil and criminal trial. On top of that they would have to prepare for a civil trial within 120 days, while the police for the criminal proceedings had seized all of his personal records and refused to provide copies or even a list of what they took. Hughes: “The District Attorney’s office was operating, with the blessings of the Court, in violation of Michael Jackson’s constitutional rights, and the Court was weighing heavily in favor of the 13-year old boy.”

    So this is what was Michael’s main reason to settle. And it’s always forgotten that the settlement only settled the civil proceedings! It’s not allowed by law to settle criminal proceedngs! The criminal were going on and they were brought in front of two Grand Juries in February-April, 1994 and none of them found evidence sufficient to indict Michael!

  107. April 24, 2012 2:13 pm

    Uhh no! The settlement had nothing to do with Lisa, it was down to the insurance company worrying about losing the sponsors Michael had and having to pay out far more than they did with the Chandlers. Michael didn’t want to settle in anyway shape or form, the insurance company did it against his wishes and the documents from the settlement prove it.

  108. April 23, 2012 11:56 pm

    Forgive me… but he NEVER should have married her. & HE NEVER SHOULD HAVE SETTLED…. I don’t give a shit how much she balked… When I heard about the settlement I said, “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! DON’T DO IT!!! FIGHT!!!!” 1 of the biggest mistakes of his life. Sorry… but it needs to be said.

  109. Truth Prevail permalink
    April 23, 2012 10:09 pm

    @Nannorris

    Yea lol at the way MJ puts the curtain over his face PRICELESS :)

  110. nannorris permalink
    April 23, 2012 12:36 am

    Truth Prevail

    LOL..I think MJ is so cute because he is such a ham…:)).
    And Priscilla is clearly annoyed..
    I guess that is why LMP had them both stand and get a final bit of applause , trying to keep the peace ..LOL
    Priscilla likes to pretend to be Elvis widow ..She isnt..
    I found it interesting that LMP included some outfits she wore when she was married to MJ in the recent Graceland exhibit..
    Since she seemed to like to distance herself from that marriage , as if she dodged a bullet by not having his child…..hmmm
    I think she has her own issues and insecurities..
    I also thought her remarks to Oprah, regarding the birth of MJ son as a retaliatory act by MJ, against her, was self serving and in poor taste..
    What ever her thoughts were , clearly she wasnt thinking of the 3 children who had just lost the only parent they had ever known , that in some way , she managed to be thinking it was all about her..
    Very childish imo..
    .Whatever the situation between she and MJ, back then ,..He was facing a nightmare with Tom Sneddon.and nearly 20 years in jail if convicted…
    She could have gone to court and explained why the settlement took place regarding the Chandlers.
    And really , when you think of it ..whatever the settlement was isnt that big a deal,, doesnt mean anything when you really think about it…
    MJ was like a corporation like Coca Cola..He was generating a billion dollars in business deals and this Chandler guy was messing with their business deals, trying to wreck endorsements.
    MJ proved his innocence when he let them photograph his body and it didnt match…
    The Chandlers proved they were full of beans when they changed the accusations after it was proven this kid was wrong…jmo
    But anyway, not only did she not help him, she seemed to hurt him by going on tv and making leading remarks imo.
    Now of course she is devastated…
    I am thinking that right now LMP is wishing she didnt let her mother put all kinds of suspicions in her mind..

  111. Truth Prevail permalink
    April 22, 2012 11:16 pm

    @nannorris

    Oh WOW you are right when the guy in the video introduce the families when he said Priscilla Presley it seemed to me the audience didn’t care but when he said Michael Jackson the crowd went crazy and they did’t seem to care for LMP either. And Priscilla looked very pissed! lol.

    Come to think of it why does Priscilla still use the name Presley her and Elvis weren’t even together when he died he had another girlfriend at the time the truth is know one cares for Priscilla and i think she knows that she uses her one time connection with Elvis to get morning show interviews what a pathetic women just because she uses Elvis to get attention she things Mike was doing the same Huh! Priscilla not everyone is like you.

  112. nannorris permalink
    April 22, 2012 6:53 pm

    My opinion of LMP and MJ relationship is that is was a real relationship that was an impulsive marriage…
    I think too that LMP mother was always in her ear saying he was using her because of the allegations and things.
    She said on Oprah she thought MJ was trying to get into Elvis bloodline .
    Neverland was like Graceland etc
    Buying Elvis music …..
    I think MJ just wanted to have a family.Had nothing to do with Elvis..I think LMP found that out when he had 2 children with Debbie Rowe ..
    According to the Rabbi book she had been telling him she would have as many children as he wanted after they divorced and were still seeing each other ..
    But AGAIN he used a surrogate ,rather then become involved as parents together with LMP..
    .
    The stuff she has said about him , particularly when he was facing 20 years in jail, speaks more about her then him..
    I remember Mesereau saying that some of the people crying the hardest after MJ died were people who refused to help him when he needed them during trial..I always think of LMP..
    If you look at this clip of LMP , Priscilla and MJ and Janet at an Elvis tribute..MJ is getting more applause then the Presleys ..He seems to be eating it up and looks to me like Priscilla cant stand him, imo..
    BUt just looking at that clip makes me think the Presleys were aware of just how big MJ was , even compared to Elvis..

  113. Truth Prevail permalink
    April 22, 2012 4:34 pm

    To be honest when you look at LMP and MJ together they look like a genuine couple in love but when you look at MJ and Debbie you can tell he was not into her and just got married to her because he didn’t want kids out of wedlock you can see a big difference.

  114. appleh permalink
    April 22, 2012 12:26 pm

    There is also a fact that the “marriage” ceremony was performed by someone who did not have a legal authority to do that because he didn’t have the jurisdiction to perform marriage where it happened. Do you think that Michael didn’t know that?

    …one who pursued him, like it continued after their divorce… stalking him…

    @mirami
    you contradict yourself: why should they divorce, when they were not legally married ?

  115. kaarin22 permalink
    April 22, 2012 4:38 am

    I do believe they had genuine and deep feelings for each other.Michael never said a bad word about Lisa. And she said “He took my breath away”,I´ll leave it to you to guess were and when. Still they did not make a good match. The scientology thing, Priscilla and Michael´s life style, moving around the world would have caused and did cause discord.
    Both of them made impulsive decisions too. Michaels death affected Lisa deeply. She sent a very personal message with flowers to the mausoleum, signed only ;L.. Too bad that I cannot recall the words exactly. They were very moving.
    And Debbie has always been decent in her interviews re Michael.

  116. April 22, 2012 12:26 am

    “when she didn’t manage to get him back, she started being angry, bitchy (like she always was), arrogant and started to badmouth him”

    Over here you are right, but what you said before and saying now is not one and the same thing. Previously you said the marriage was fake (which it was not).

    Being furious and having a fake marriage have nothing to do with each other. In fact when someone has a fake relationship they have no emotions and consequently no fury. Her emotions are the best proof how deeply in love she was with Michael and how infatuated she was.

  117. April 21, 2012 11:11 pm

    Taraborelli is a TABLOID “JOURNALIST” and not reliable to me. Much of these stories come from those who like LMP (her fans) and that connection with Presley family – that is their side of the story! What about the other side of the story? What about what Frank Cascio said in his book? What about your own feelings when you listen/watch the numerous interviews where LMP trash and bash Michael, where she makes fun of him?! What about her behavior, attitude and looks in general? Is that a classy lady?! Sorry, I wouldn’t like her even if she never had anything with Michael! They are as far and different from each other as black and white, as day and night, as Heaven and Hell. I feel she fell in love with him and she was the one who pursued him, like it continued after their divorce… stalking him, being jealous, etc. And when she didn’t manage to get him back, she started being angry, bitchy (like she always was), arrogant and started to badmouth him.

  118. April 21, 2012 11:02 pm

    “I am convinced (as I believed since the day one) that this “marriage” and “relationship” was fake – it was planned to be fake for several reasons”

    Dear mirami, yoy can be convinced of any craziness you like, however I prefer to believe what Lisa-Marie says about her marriage with Michael and her absolute infatuation with him. I have a feeling that she knows better.

  119. April 21, 2012 10:48 pm

    You didn’t write all the facts – other part of interviews, quotes etc. Especially those made by LMP. Read this, even though you will find only a part of the other side of the story… There is also a fact that the “marriage” ceremony was performed by someone who did not have a legal authority to do that because he didn’t have the jurisdiction to perform marriage where it happened. Do you think that Michael didn’t know that? :) He was not naive. When I search all of what happened, I tell you that I am convinced (as I believed since the day one) that this “marriage” and “relationship” was fake – it was planned to be fake for several reasons.

    http://spreadingthetruth777.blogsp

  120. nan permalink
    March 21, 2012 8:05 am

    That is a good point regarding the photos going public..Supposedly lots of police saw the photos and I think even Geraldo Rivera.
    I can imagine Evan Chandler or Victor G selling them to some one..
    That was such a degraging move and MJ was so private , I feel that Feldman and company must have thought just threatening him with that would have made MJ settle.
    But he was determined to prove his innocence..and in reality he did.
    It is too bad that a sick and ambitious prosecutor was enabling this pack of wolves..

  121. char stanley permalink
    March 21, 2012 4:52 am

    I love the way this is all in chronological order. It helps to see how things happened. Although I think maybe Lisa Marie was a contributing factor possibly in the settlement. I believe even more of a factor was the strip search photos. If Michael had not settled, then those photos would have been available to the other side in a court case. The fear of those photos getting leaked out from there, well even if he had nothing to fear, he did fear the photos being leaked to the press. Chandler wanted to hurt Michael and he would do it any way he could. If he got access to those photos who knows he might have received more money from them than a settlement.
    Michael settled shortly after that. Everyone was telling and probably Lisa also, to put it behind him. They saw how it was tearing him up and they didn’t want to drag it on, which could happen in a trial. If Michael wanted to settle he could have done it long before it all got out in public, but he didn’t want to because he knew he was innocent. The deciding factor to me then was the strip search photos. There was also video taken. When he settled, all that evidence was sealed and locked away. Michael even tried to get all that evidence in his possession for years after. He tried again after the 2005 trial. The fear of that being out there weighed on his mind.

  122. July 26, 2011 5:02 am

    Priscila Presley talked with Tom Sneddon? Is true?

  123. July 26, 2011 4:46 am

    How old is June Chandler in 1993?
    You know when June and David Schwartz divorced? In February 1993 they were divorced?
    It is important for me to know why the allegations against Jackson in 1993.

  124. Olga permalink
    December 11, 2010 5:40 pm

    Taraborelli has interviewed Lisa Marie many times and he interviewed MJ too. Everything LMP said on Oprah has been published by JRT 2 years ago. I don’t see any problem with reliability

  125. Viad permalink
    December 11, 2010 3:34 pm

    I’m sorry, but there’s far too much J. Randy Tarraborrelli-sourced information for this article to be reliable.

  126. October 27, 2010 9:32 am

    very informative and interesting im from manila,

  127. Hayat permalink
    July 25, 2010 3:15 pm

    I have to say, that I’m happy that LM didn’t have kids with Mike. Its true. Think about it.
    MJ believed in God Almighty. He adored children. Think of what would have happend, if they did hav kids, how would they be raised – when LM is a member of the Scientology Church and he wasn’t? Secondly, they would have divorced anyway, her sweet mother would have done anything to make that happen. She never liked MJ. She never would have wanted to have a ‘black’ grandchild. They would hav divorced anyway, and then the battle for the custody of the children would hav begun. Can you imagine, Michael having to hav to share his kids custody, not seeing them all the time, not being with them daily? Like he was with Prince, Paris and Blanket? He took them everywhere with him. It would have destroyed him if he lost his children – that he would hav had with Lisa.
    They did love each other, I really believe that, they had a lot in common, and they didn’t do it for the money or the name, cuz they had that already.
    But I’m happy she found the happiness she saught for, and that he had his own way of finding his, I’m glad they remained friends, I’m happy he had his own kids.
    It was for the better – in my opinion…

  128. Kendrick permalink
    July 10, 2010 6:27 am

    Michael might have resigned himself to the fact on the settlement, but he did not have a choice. That choice to fight or not was taken out of his hands by his insurance company.
    Even as much as he may have loved LMP, he knew settling out of court would forever leave an indelible question mark in the minds of many people.

  129. Louise permalink
    April 25, 2010 5:17 pm

    Helena,

    Thank you for spreading this very detailed story. I knew some of them but not all. It pains me to re-read that MJ hoped to rebuild his turned-to-aches life after Chandlers conspiracy with Lisa M. P. But it did not work. I am sure that the fear of losing Lisa and other reasons (all the reasons that his lawyers told him at this time) pushed him to make his life’s biggest mistake, the settelment.

  130. April 13, 2010 10:33 am

    Milady, thank you for your kind comment, but please remember that the information was compiled by lacienega and I just found it and made an introduction to it. Michael’s fans are doing a great job - which should be actually done by the media. Well, if THEY don’t – WE will and thus fill the vacuum they artificially create around the name of Michael Jackson. I hope this blog will also be another link connecting Michael’s friends.

  131. Milady permalink
    April 11, 2010 3:54 am

    Helena I’m speechless after reading this detailed “love story”. Every article you write is excellent, but I was compelely traped with this one.
    Sincere congratulations!!

  132. March 19, 2010 9:05 am

    Dear SB, I apologize for this off-topic, but the problem is – I haven’t sent any emails to you! This worries me a lot, as I am really not used to operating any blogs at all (this is my first) and am evidently ignorant of the necessary security measures agaist hackers or other unwelcome intrusions.
    Let us agree about one thing at the moment (while I’m trying to sort things out) – if you or anyone wants to tell me something, please do it in the open, just as a comment – otherwise there will be no way for me to learn what emails I have sent or what correspondence I am making without even knowing it!
    My special request to every Michael’s hater – please be a gentleman/lady and let us have an open discussion if you want to. I’m actually sure that one day you will join us – you’re just being misinformed, poor things, and that is all there is to it….

    Helena1247
    (vindicatemj)

  133. March 19, 2010 1:05 am

    re your email this am, 3/18. I just read that MJFC is being investigated due to vicious comments by posters about other posters. Blogspot, whoever that is was mentioned. I know some have directed mean comments and accusations at Susan Etok in recent months.
    The reason I brought this up is that the cancellation of the rally may have something to do with MJ fans disagreeing and fighting nationwide.
    Also some have been worried that fans at the courthouse when trial things going on have not been well behaved so far. Shouting at Murrray, etc. I don’t know for sure jusr what is going on.

  134. March 17, 2010 8:21 pm

    This story had more details in it than any I’ve read I believe too that if they had been able to stay together by now they’d probably have a bunch of kids and they would be happy, and mj would be alive.
    I also think that Debbi loved Michael very much and when I hear her put down it hurts me. I’d love to have her address or email to let her know that there are people who understand, sort of anyway. sb

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