The role of Reverend RICK STANLEY in the life of Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley
There is a lot of discussion of Lisa Marie Presley and Michael Jackson now in this thread. I am also interested and though being resentful of Lisa’s public rebukes to Michael during the “angry” period of her life, all I see here is the wounded pride of a rejected woman who has also been greatly spoiled by people never saying “No” to her ever before.
Any woman would be angry if she were abandoned of course, only not every one of them will go to the media to spill out her dismay and fury in public.
However this is a very much private matter between Lisa Marie and Michael and if she cares to talk about it one day we will turn a more than ready ear to listen to her.
What is not private though is whether Lisa Marie did (or didn’t) say ugly things about the so-called “molestation issues” or to be more exact about the “filthy video tapes” she allegedly found in MJ’s closet as some unscrupulous media sources claim.
What am I talking about? I am talking about another package of lies told from time to time by guys like a convicted pedophile Tomas O’Carroll who like to present their own reasons for the couple’s divorce. (T.O’Carroll claimed that Michael’s marriage ended when Lisa learned of his ‘relationship with boys’ : “His first marriage ended in divorce after he had been on holiday with two young boys without his wife.” ).
1. A NEW LIE
One of the variations of this lie says that Lisa-Marie Presley divorced Michael because she found some “filthy” video tapes in his closet and this “convinced” her that he was “fixated” on boys. The story is a ridiculous lie which has been disproved by life itself, however for the sake of justice we need to record it for future generations so that they see which methods were used to slander a totally innocent man.
This lie shows how easy it was to say about Michael Jackson anything that ever entered into any madman’s mind, and how readily the media supported any dirt about him without ever checking it up – and how easily the public fell under the spell of all these madmen.
I first encountered this lie in a Scottish tabloid called the Daily Record. On January 2, 1998 they published a terrible piece which implied that LMP found kids’ porn among MJ’s belongings. Here is the article (the choice of words is so characteristic of that crazy period that I felt the need to mark a few things in red):
I DIVORCED JACKO OVER VIDEO PORN; Wife tells of sleaze
January 2, 1998
Lisa Marie Presley dumped Wacko Jacko after finding his secret collection of filthy video tapes.
Elvis’s daughter told her Baptist minister uncle the tapes showed the mad star was sexually fixated with young boys. And after confessing her discovery to the Rev Rick Stanley, she told lawyers she wanted a divorce.
Stanley, 44 – Elvis’s step-brother – said Lisa Marie struggled to free herself from the sexless marriage to the superstar. He’s spoken out after seeing reports that Jackson wanted to have a baby with Lisa.
Jacko’s still married to pregnant Debbie Rowe, mother of his son Prince Michael.
Stanley said Lisa Marie’s mum Priscilla set up a meeting between him and her troubled daughter in 1996 – 18 months after she married the singer. During the 10-hour session at her Los Angeles home, Stanley said Lisa Marie told him she’d never had sex with Michael before or after they wed.
But she got married to take the heat off Jackson because claims of his relationship with a young boy were causing a storm. When Stanley asked her if these claims were true, he said Lisa Marie answered, “I didn’t know until I went to Michael’s house and went up to his bedroom. ”In the closet I found videos and magazines that convinced me the story is true.” Stanley then told her: “If Elvis was alive to hear that story, we’d be putting on flak jackets right now.”
Stanley said she then asked him, “Please tell me – have you ever heard of a paedophile getting his life turned around?” He said he told her: “I’ve never heard of a child molester getting straightened out.”
Next day, Lisa Marie stunned the world by filing for divorce.
COPYRIGHT 1998 Scottish Daily Record & Sunday
Sorry for posting this filthy article here. I just wanted to show you how easily they threw all those disgusting lies and words at him without bothering to provide any proof. No research done, no evidence needed – they did this public crucifixion of an innocent man just to entertain their readers!
And who the hell is this Rick Stanley? Where does he draw inspiration for his elaborate lies? Surprise-surprise, but he claims to be a preacher or a “man of God”, a Baptist minister who likes touring the country and has preached in more than 4,000 churches. People flock to see him as he says he had a “spiritual rebirth” and he also tells them stories about Elvis and Michael Jackson.
But what right does he have to tell stories about Michael? It turns out that he is part of Lisa-Marie’s family and is a step-brother of Elvis Presley or is, in other words, Lisa-Marie’s step-uncle (also known as Billy Stanley). People think that since he is an insider in the family he knows all its secrets and tells them things which the family does not disclose publicly.
The Reverend status gives added credibility to this man’s lies, so we can very well expect that as a result of his ruinous activity there are vast groups of people who were brainwashed by this guy into thinking that Michael Jackson indeed had some “dark secrets” still undisclosed to the public.
However what “Reverend” Rick Stanley is saying is a crazy lie and we even know the down-to-earth reason why he is doing it. In 1998 he was frightened that Lisa-Marie and Michael came too close to a reconciliation - so close that there was some rumor of her wanting to give him a baby - and this made our “Reverend” take quick preemptive action not to allow that to happen.
The article cited above directly points to this reason by saying: “He’s spoken out after seeing reports that Jackson wanted to have a baby with Lisa”, and the article below says pretty much the same. The story was originally published in the National Enquirer:
This Time It’s for Real
By Emily Yoffe| Posted Thursday, Jan. 8, 1998, at 3:30 AM ET
There are the marriages that are giving readers whiplash–most prominently those of singer Michael Jackson and Debbie Rowe, his dermatologist’s former receptionist; and talk-show host Kathie Lee Gifford and her sportscaster husband, Frank.
This week the Enquirer made news with the revelation that Lisa Marie Presley, Elvis’ daughter and Jackson’s former wife, confided to her uncle, a minister, that she had found evidence during her marriage–which was never consummated, according to the story–that Jackson was sexually interested in boys.
The uncle, the Rev. Rick Stanley, went public because of a recent report in the tabloids that Jackson and Presley have traveled the world together–with her young children by another marriage–even as Rowe is pregnant with the singer’s second child. According to the Enquirer, Rowe said to a friend, “I told Michael that I would share him with Lisa Marie.” She’ll have to if the Star is accurate when it reports that Jackson has talked about Rowe serving as a surrogate mother for a child artificially conceived between Jackson and Presley. “He’s convinced they could create the next Elvis,” says the Star.
Can anyone imagine what irreparable damage this kind of irresponsible ravings were doing to Michael and his image? And to his state of mind and his feelings? Has anyone ever thought that he is a human being who will be wounded by all this nastiness and will be suffering? And after all that they laugh and wonder why he could not sleep or took something to dull his pain? Wouldn’t you do the same if the only other choice left to you would be a slow death on the cross of their hatred?
Skeptics will say that they cannot be sure that the information about some porn videos allegedly seen by LMP is a lie. No, they can very well be sure that it is indeed a lie. Let me remind these people that if a little bit of it had been true Lisa-Marie would have never followed Michael after the divorce and would have surely never taken her small children to accompany her on her tours with Michael.
In case they are not convinced we have another proof that this lie originated solely in Rick Stanley’s sick mind. Lisa Marie’s biography published here contains a statement concerning her step-uncle.
The statement makes it clear that these crazy stories are none of her doing for the simple reason that she was not in contact with her two step-uncles for years:
“Even though her ex-step-uncles, the Stanley brothers, regularly contribute to documentaries about the Presley family, both Lisa Marie and Priscilla Presley issued a statement in the 1990s claiming that they have not had any contact with two of the boys (David and Billy) for years”.
In another public statement Lisa Marie is much more outspoken. As is always the case with any serious public statements concerning Michael’s innocence, the original source where the statement was found (http://www.pcpages.com/elvistimes//news.htm ) is no longer working and I have to quote it by a secondary source where the original text was re-posted:
Rick Stanley’s Tales
“Rick Stanley, son of Elvis’ father’s second wife Dee, has been featured in recent tabloid articles in which he claims to have a close relationship with Elvis’ daughter, Lisa Marie Presley.
Lisa has had no contact with Rick Stanley for many years since he betrayed her and her family by selling false stories to the tabloids about her.
Rick Stanley is in no position to have any direct knowledge of anything regarding Lisa or her personal life and most certainly should not be quoted as an authority.
Should Lisa ever have any announcement to make about her personal or professional life, it will be posted on Lisa’s own web site.”
2. BIG SURPRISE
So what was there in the press in 1997-1998 which made our “Reverend” so extremely nervous that he started making up dirty stories to stand in the way to Lisa’s and Michael’s reconciliation?
The answer to that are the reports from the incredulous media that Lisa Marie was following Michael round the world, that they walked hand in hand and stayed in the same hotel, and that she was even willing to give him a baby. They hoped the rumor was a joke but it was not as Michael says in highly confidential Schmuley’s tapes that Lisa wrote him “begging letters” and promised to give him as many kids as he wanted.
The “disturbing” reports about Lisa-Marie and Michael being together were coming from various parts of the world – London, Paris, South Africa and other places.
This news was in a total contrast with the official family story that the broken marriage was a mistake, was never “consummated” and was a sham from beginning to end.
And what a disaster it would be for some people if this reconciliation resulted in their remarriage and they had a baby who would probably be even black! I clearly remember some of the Presleys complaining on TV that it would be impossible to imagine that Elvis’s grandchild would be colored.
You probably know much more about this period than me but I will still share with you some information found in this splendid source: http://www.positivelymichael.com/forums/showthread.php?3913-The-Lisa-Marie-and-Michael-Thread/page120
Based on their information here is a sort of a report about how terribly amazed the media was to see Lisa Marie follow Michael Jackson all over the world:
July 17, 1997
They split last year, but Michael Jackson and former wife Lisa Marie Presley were hand-in-hand Tuesday night returning to his hotel after his sell-out London concert.
Presley stood at the edge of the stage through the show at Wembley stadium. Afterward, the two returned to the Carlton Towers hotel and Jackson waved to fans.
Elvis’ daughter divorced the King of Pop last year after a 20-month marriage.
In November, Jackson married Deborah Rowe, a nurse who worked with his plastic surgeon. She gave birth to the couple’s son Prince in February.
Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley Spotted Hand in Hand
While we still have trouble reconciling to the fact that Michael Jackson has a wife, never mind an ex-wife, we would be remiss if we didn’t report that the King of Pop was spotted walking hand in hand with Lisa Marie Presley on Tuesday.
The two, who have not been seen together since they divorced last year after eighteen months of marriage, waved to fans as they arrived holding hands at Michael’s London hotel after his sold-out concert at Wembley Stadium.
Lisa Marie watched Michael’s two-and-a-half-hour performance from backstage. Debbie Rowe, Jackson’s current bride and the mother of his son, Prince, was seen at earlier dates on the tour. Presley’s rep, Paul Bloch, tells USA Today that Presley went to London at the request of Jackson, “who she’s very good friends with.”
Jul 16, 1997 – Lisa Marie Presley is in London at the invitation of ex-husband Michael Jackson, “who she’s very good friends with,” says Presley rep Paul Bloch. She was expected at Jackson’s Wembley concert Tuesday.
Jul 17, 1997 – They split last year, but Michael Jackson and former wife Lisa Marie Presley were hand-in-hand Tuesday night returning to his hotel after his London concert. Presley stood at the edge of the stage through the show at Wembley stadium. Afterward, the two returned to the Carlton Towers
Jul 17, 1997 – There were near riot scenes as Jacko, wearing his face mask, left his London hotel at tea-time with ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley.
Jul 23, 1997 - Lisa Marie Presley is back with ex-hubby Michael Jackson and telling friends she’ll always love the pop star. The two staged a touching reunion after a concert Michael gave in London- as Globe’s exclusive pictures reveal. “Michael is wonderful,” Lisa Marie, 29, told pals.
The reunion was continuing even three months later:
Oct. 28, 1997
MICHAEL JACKSON’s reunion with his ex-wife LISA MARIE PRESLEY and her two young children had left the kids’ father fearful and fuming.
According to American tabloid THE STAR, mild-manned Keough was enraged when he saw pictures of his children BEN, five, and DANIELLE, eight, with Jackson in South Africa during a break from his world tour.
A pal says, “Danny’s folks are irate about Lisa Marie jetting all over the world to be with her ex and taking the kids with her.
Presley is still best buddies with the King of Pop – now married to DEBBIE ROWE, the mother of his son PRINCE MICHAEL, despite their divorce two years ago. And the couple have reportedly been spending many dates on his HIStory tour meeting up, including in Paris.
When talking to a National Enquirer journalist Lisa-Marie evidently remembered him all the good the paper had done to her and Michael by publishing her uncle’s mad ramblings, and made such a comment to this Mike Walker that he “turned red” in the face, was “visibly shaken” and “nervous” after speaking to her. Here is the account of the event from www.positivelymichael.com
We Had a Secret
Mike Walker from the National Enquirer went on the Geraldo show back in 98 & turned red saying he was shocked to see Michael and Lisa together that night at the Ivy in LA.
He said he did not trust Lisa. He felt she had something up her sleeve when she told him sarcastically that the NE tabloid was her favorite magazine.
Then Lisa proceeded to say they (Michael and Lisa) have a secret. Mike Walker seemed visually shaken by Lisa’s comments. He seemed very nervous as to not to know what to expect from Lisa. Don’t think for one minute that Lisa is not very much behind Michael and they are very much still a secret couple.
Lisa does has her way of doing things for Michael and she has called the NE’s bluff. Steve Cox, the top gun at the NE knows Lisa hates them and she was out to get them back for Michael and Lord know she did. Lisa has since SUED two or three times and won or Lisa has bound away to get money from them for the mistreatment of Michael. Lisa is very smooth and shrewd”.
The relationship between Lisa Marie and Michael had never been easy, but after their reunion they began to be dogged from every side by the media, Lisa’s relatives and even “men of God” like Reverend Rick Stanley, and this surely made them realize that the world would never leave them alone and there was no future for them together.
You can see all the bitter sadness of this realization in Michael’s eyes and in what looked to me like Lisa-Marie’s tears in the marvelous picture posted in the comments on another post. I’ve found a fuller version of the same picture and am placing it here as a marvellous document.
Michael and Lisa are caught standing outside the Beverly Hills hotel.
Lisa seems to be crying trying to mask it with a smile and her tears are dropping on the garment in his hand.
Michael is twitching her shoulder as if trying to stop her and telling her not to shed tears in front of all these hyenas photographing them.
His own eyes convey infinite sadness at the impasse both of them are facing.
The impression one gets from this photo is that this couple cannot live with and without each other and no words can explain why it is happening that way.
This photo is worth a thousand words…
3. TIME TO REFRESH THE FILTHY LIE
When the year 2003 and the Arvizos brought a new disaster into Michael Jackson’s life our Reverend Rick Stanley surfaced again with the same old fiction story about Lisa Marie.
The purpose of his re-entry was to make sure that the public did not forget the “right” way to perceive Michael Jackson, so it was absolutely no accident that Rick Stanley’s lie was rehashed almost immediately after Bashir’s so-called documentary.
The regularity with which characters like Rick Stanley or Ray Chandler resurface just in time for each successive crisis in Michael Jackson’s life and their accuracy in knowing when to reappear will always evoke my infinite surprise.
It is almost like seeing a Big Cosmic Lie calling her offspring to join her when she needs them most and all of them immediately mobilizing themselves and coming to her side ready to oblige. And be the first to get their generous share for the services rendered.
One such service to the Big Lie was rendered in February 2003, immediately after Bashir’s film aired by our Reverend Rick Stanley and the World Entertainment News Network (WENN) who refreshed in people’s minds the old lie told five years earlier:
Lisa Marie’s Horror At Jacko’s ‘Secret Tapes’
Posted on February 26, 2003 by popdirt
WENN reports Lisa Marie Presley holds secrets about ex-husband Michael Jackson’s fixation with young boys, according to her uncle, the Reverend Rick Stanley.
“Lisa Marie knows the sick truth about Michael Jackson,” Stanley said. “She’s known he has an unusual interest in young boys for years. That’s why she never allowed her own kids around him.”
He added, “I asked Lisa Marie if she knew the allegations against Michael from the Jordy Chandler case were true, that he had a sexual interest in young boys.
She said, ‘Ricky, I did not know it when I married Michael, but I know now.’ She’d discovered that Jackson seemed fixated on young boys when she stumbled on his secret video collection.”
Well, the story of Lisa-Marie “never allowing her own kids around him” is disproved even by the pictures posted here.
As regards the rest of it I suspect that Lisa Marie did not even know that her good old uncle was spreading his lies again for the simple reason that she had not been in contact with him for many years by then.
To find out what Lisa-Marie really thought about Michael during that angry period of her life which coincided exactly with the Bashir crisis, we need to go to her retaliatory album released just at the time, on April 8, 2003 and was preceded by some interviews.
4.WHAT SHE REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT MICHAEL
The interview with the Rolling Stones on March 27, 2003 was the first after a long period of silence on her part. The interviewers promised to tell us everything she had to say about her relationship with Michael Jackson especially since she had just finally parted with him and with a loud bang too.
The promise to ‘tell it all’ kept the public on tenterhooks and had a thrilling potential of the full final disclosure. After the breakup with MJ the lioness was wounded and would surely tell the whole truth.
And what did she say? Was there anything even remotely close to the filth told by her “Reverend” uncle?
No, far from it. You cannot say that it was full of pleasantries either, but as regards ‘boys’ and ‘secret video tapes’ there were none.
When Lisa Marie spoke to the Rolling Stones on March 23, 2003 she referred to her first album, To Whom It May Concern as a way to outpour her anger and said that that there was “no reason to be careful anymore because everything is in that record. It’s frustrating, sitting with all this for years and years, not having said a word.”
After such an introduction one would expect the most terrible secrets revealed about Michael Jackson, however the worst Lisa Marie said on the molestation issues was that she “didn’t know” as “she wasn’t there” and that she herself had never seen any trace of wrongdoing, otherwise she would have immediately demanded explanation and would be gone out of his life.
Knowing her character we can easily believe it.
Here is the part of the interview where she speaks about the allegations against Michael (the full of her angry story can be found here: http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/interview_lisamarie_rollingstone.shtml/):
Q: People are still confused by Michael Jackson’s love of a certain kind of relationship with young kids, whether it’s totally innocent or not. And you made a huge defense in the Diane Sawyer interview of how you watched him with kids and how it was all totally innocent. Is that what you think on reflection?
LMP: ‘The only thing I can say is that I didn’t see anything that would ever allude to that, ever. Otherwise I would have been the first one out there going, ‘You motherfucker’. I’ve got children.
But I never saw anything like that. I meant what I said when I said it, because I didn’t see anything weird or bizarre like that ever. And I did notice that he had an amazing connection to kids, whether it be a small baby or a two-year-old girl or a four-year-old — children really responded to him’.
Q: Back then did you ever worry or even think whether there could be any truth in what he was accused of?
LMP: ‘Did I ever worry? Of course I fucking worried. Yeah. I did. But I could only come up with what he told me. The only two people that were in the room was him and that kid, so how the hell was I going to know? I could only go off what he told me’.
Q: And what do you think now?
She purses her lips.
LMP: ‘I don’t know. I still don’t know. I wasn’t there. I never saw anything else that could possibly lead to that. And there’s two sides of it. There’s the side of the dad. Why would the dad take the fucking money? If I had a kid and he was molested, I would fucking take that guy and hang him by his balls off a tree and let him sit there and die like that. Nobody could buy me, ever, if my child were molested. Fuck that. I don’t care if I didn’t have a penny — I would take his ass down in front of everybody’.
She says, by way of recap, this:
‘I understand it did affect people’s perception of me. That’s fine; I understand why. But I did fall in love with him. I can’t say what his intentions were, but I can tell you mine was that I absolutely fell in love with him and fell into this whole thing which I’m not proud of now’.
In short the interview was emotional and did not have much friendly stuff, however what it didn’t have was the “molestation” nonsense. A few days later Michael Jackson responded Lisa Marie in a classy and gentlemanly manner only he was capable of in the circumstances like these:
Michael Jackson Responds To Lisa Marie Presley
Posted on April 2, 2003 by popdirt
Michael Jackson has responded to Lisa Marie Presley’s recent interview with Rolling Stone magazine. He said in a statement, “Michael Jackson wishes Lisa Marie all the best in the world. However, as to a comment on anything to do with their marriage, as a gentleman Michael prefers not to respond.”
Elvis’ daughter has been completely open about confirming their short-lived marriage was indeed consummated.
Several months later, on July 30, 2003 Lisa-Marie sat for an interview with the Playboy and was again questioned about Michael.
In this interview she was equally angry but sounded even more vehement in saying that she had never seen anything inappropriate in Michael’s behavior (not to mention total non-existence of any “filthy videos” over which she allegedly filed for divorce according to her uncle’s lies).
Her usual “she wasn’t there” was of course the central motif which makes me suspect that Lisa Marie is somewhat incapable of putting two and two together and repeats like a parrot what someone nasty once told her.
However when saying that she never saw anything inappropriate she pronounced the word “never” so many times that it somehow compensated for the other stuff. And she again said that with her children Michael was always great and that “he does have a connection with kids, babies”. “He is kid himself, and other kids sense that in him”:
PLAYBOY: Did you and he ever have children join you in your bed?
PRESLEY: Never. Never, never, never, never. I never saw him sleep in bed with a child, ever.
PLAYBOY: Did you ever see him with photos of nude children?
PRESLEY: Never. Never.
PLAYBOY: Do you have any reason to think he’s a child molester?
PRESLEY: If I’d had any reason to suspect that, I would have had nothing to do with the guy. I had no reason to, other than the allegations themselves. The only two people who know are Michael and that kid in the room. I’ve never seen him behave inappropriately. He was great with my kids. He does have a connection with kids, babies. He’s a kid, and other kids sense that in him.
PLAYBOY: It would help his case if he’d stop saying, “Yes, I sleep with children.”
PRESLEY: I know! Someone should call him and go, “Would you just stop saying that? It’s not working for you!”
The strange thing about the media is that whenever she dropped anything negative about her stormy relationship with Michael the press always understood it as something concerning the “kids” and each time Lisa-Marie had to clarify her remarks and explain that they referred to things that went between them as husband and wife, and not to the “kids”.
Below is a typical example of this never-ending misunderstanding between the media and Lisa Marie. And we should give her her due for never taking these opportunities to tell lies about Michael or simply let the wrong interpretations go without any comment on her part.
She did care that her angry words should not be mistaken for all those dreadful molestation stories and this is especially precious about Lisa-Marie.
The Associated Press, March 17, 2004
LOS ANGELES – Lisa Marie Presley clarified her remarks in an Australian TV interview, saying in a statement Wednesday that she never saw her ex-husband, Michael Jackson, engage in inappropriate behavior with kids.
Elvis Presley’s daughter, on a concert tour in Australia, said in an interview broadcast Monday that she saw things she “couldn’t do anything about” during her 1994-96 marriage to Jackson.
“I was in no way referring to seeing something inappropriate with children, as I have stated publicly before. I never have,” Presley said in a statement released by her Los Angeles publicist, Paul Bloch.
Without elaboration, Presley said during the talk show interview that she felt powerless during the marriage to Jackson, who is charged in Santa Barbara County with child molestation. The interview aired on Australian Broadcasting Corp.’s “Enough Rope.”
“Unfortunately, due to the recent media frenzy surrounding Michael Jackson, my comments during a recent TV interview in Australia regarding him were completely taken out of context and erroneously read into,” Presley said in the statement.
“In saying I saw things, I was specifically referring to things in that relationship with us that went on between us at the time as husband and wife,” she said.
Her interview comments led to widespread speculation about the 45-year-old pop star.
Presley said she felt “powerless in a lot of ways, in terms of … realizing that I was part of a machine, and seeing things going on that I couldn’t do anything about,” she said.
“And don’t ask me what sort of things, because I’m not going to answer. But just stuff.”
5. FINAL ADMISSION
The final admission that she never saw anything inappropriate and how deeply she loved Michael came in her interview with Oprah, of course.
This is where she finally disclosed that she practically chased Michael around the world for four years after their divorce (thus putting all stop to rumors about their “non-consummated” marriage). Frankly, few women will speak so openly about their infatuation for a man and the humiliation of being abandoned despite all her efforts to keep him. Just imagine it, she offered him babies and he went to another woman to have his kids instead!
Of course, Lisa-Marie talks more about herself in this interview, but the fact that she openly tells of her infatuation with Michael is precious again. This was courageous and honest. And even uncharacteristic of a woman.
Here is a bit of what Lisa Marie said (please correct my mistakes or provide the full transcript if you can):
- I have to say in retrospect that he he honestly tried so hard… And I know now as I look back that he has never done anyone … as much as we’ve gone through… and we hit rough waters and we would argue sometimes for hours taking a break of eat and sleep (Orpah: Wow).
- I’d have to say that I really admire that he really gave it a good shot and I didn’t appreciate it at the time and I wish I did.
- 1:45 We still spent 4 more years after we divorced, getting back together and breaking up, then talking about getting back together and then breaking up. And at some point I had to push it away.
- - So you still loved him when you left him?
- - Very much. I left him to stamp my foot on the ground. I was trying to take a stand. “Come with me, don’t do this”. And it was a stupid move because he didn’t. He is stubborn. I’m stubborn. The two of us – it was like… you know… I made a stupid move. And actually afterwards I was still flying all over the world with him…
- 4:40 Oprah:- I asked you during the first show whether you have ever seen any inappropriate behavior between Michael Jackson and young children.
LMP: – Are you asking me again?
- Yes, I am asking you again.
- The answer is absolutely not, in any way. I did not see anything like that.
- So by 2005 when he was on trial for the second charge your feelings at that time were what?
-He was calling me about it and I said “Please keep your head together. Please. If this goes to trial, please hold it together.” He said, “What are you talking about? What do you mean? … Do you mean drugs?” I said, “Yes”.
- Oprah: – He said pretty shocking things in that Martin Bashir interview, particularly how felt it was okay to sleep with young children [don't twist his words, Oprah! He didn't say that!]
- I think he said it to be defiant because he got angry. I think that sometimes he was such a little stubborn rubble [?]… He was like a child that would just say what he felt… I don’t feel that he was a straight-head during those things. And I think that they were edited in a very, very manipulative nasty way.
- So you never saw anything and to this day you don’t believe any of those charges were true?
- No. I mean… I honestly cannot say. The only people that are ever gonna be able to honestly say the truth are whoever was in the room at the time of whatever allegedly took place. I was never in that room. It would be unfair for me… I can tell you – I never saw anything like that.
Over here Lisa Marie is absolutely wrong.
Firstly, it is possible to learn the truth from other sources other than direct ones, or otherwise truth would be unattainable in principle when the direct participants in the events leave this world (however it is and history research proves it).
And secondly, besides the direct sources we also have our feelings and if she was so sure of Michael that she chased him all over the world with her young children accompanying her, it means that she knew of his innocence, only did not realize it. No woman would ever risk the safety of her children if she has the slightest suspicion of any wrongdoing.
And it is absolutely not the case of being “in oblivion” of what is going on in the family as it sometimes happens in real molestation case. What oblivion can we talk of if the whole world was shouting in Lisa Marie’s ears that she should be on her guard?
No, she KNEW that he was innocent and that is why she loved him so much and wanted him back. Hopefully one day Lisa will realize it. It is high time she did…
6. WHAT IS AN ECCENTRICITY FOR PRESLEY IS A CRIME FOR MICHAEL JACKSON
There is one more observation I need to make. In her interviews Lisa Marie is quite outspoken about her somewhat wild and unruly nature.
She said that as a kid she was a tyrant, she started sex life at the age of 15 (her mother started even earlier), she drank when a teenager, did cocaine, marijuana and whatnot, liked to crush live frogs with her golf cart in Graceland, did all sorts of other wild stuff, preferred rough sex as if in porn films, swore like I don’t know who, and by her own admission was quite insane – which she almost was.
When reading about Lisa Marie’s escapades when she was younger (as well as of some “eccentricities” of her father and mother) I kept thinking that if Michael Jackson had been in her place and had been telling the same about himself openly to the press, they would have named him nothing less than a devil and would have even put him into jail on some pretext.
However for Lisa-Marie the very same thing works nice and easy. Everyone smiles, nods in approval, shows compassion for her hard life of a princess and no one does as much as even raising a brow…
Okay, let us not judge anyone and let her live her life the way she likes it, especially since she has settled down now and started thinking at last, but why so much injustice towards Michael Jackson?
His “eccentricities” are incomparable to what Lisa-Marie and other Presleys did with their lives!
7. WHO IS THE JUDGE?
We have almost forgotten about our “Reverend” Rick Stanley. Since this man found so much fault with Michael Jackson’s totally fictional crimes (which he invented about MJ himself), we are led to assume that Rick Stanley must be an angel who has graced this sinful world and is now taking us all on a road to salvation.
Nothing can be farther from the truth.
For the most part of his life the Reverend Rick Stanley was a heroin addict and it was also probably due to his negligence that Elvis Presley died. Rick was supposed to stay by Elvis’s side on the night of his death, however he left him and arranged a party elsewhere only to learn in the morning that Elvis was dead.
In short Rick Stanley is a sort of a Conrad Murray type – only for Elvis Presley this time.
Here is the story of the great guy. I am providing it in full just in case it disappears from public view like many other important articles suddenly vanishing into nowhere. Read and enjoy this highly ironic account about the man who has the cheek to claim that he preaches the Gospel.
I am afraid even to think of how many people he has managed to take with him to the hellish world of lies, pretence and hypocrisy he himself is living in. However whether they listen to him or not is the choice made by people themselves .
So it is up to them to decide.
Elvis Presley’s Stepbrother, Rick Stanley, is Still on the Road Preaching the Gospel
November 20, 2010 12:30 PM
From the mob that forms, a girl pushes to the front and thrusts out her hand to reveal a bejeweled Elvis Presley wristwatch. The preacher smiles graciously as a white-haired woman bends his ear about her pilgrimages to Graceland and confesses to keeping a cloth painting of “the King” on her bedroom wall. Others tell of watching Elvis on television or driving with friends to the next town over on Saturday afternoons to catch his latest movie.
The pastor beams. He knows most of the people who have turned out for evening service at Branch Chapel Freewill Baptist didn’t come to hear Rick Stanley, evangelist.
They came for Elvis’ stepbrother.
“Those little ladies, telling them stories. … They think I’M Elvis,” Stanley whispers, almost conspiratorially.
“Well, I’m the closest thing to it – to them.”
Elvis has been dead 33 years, but his stepbrother is still on the road. For about 10 months of the year, the silver-haired evangelist crisscrosses the country, speaking in school auditoriums and preaching for “love offerings” in churches big and small, his message equal parts Holy Spirit and Elvis’ ghost. Where he once worked behind the scenes as Presley’s personal aid, Stanley has since become something of a celebrity himself sharing the stage with the likes of Billy Graham and holding hands in prayer with former President Bill Clinton.
A former heroin addict, he uses the story of his own journey from Graceland to grace as an example of Christ’s redemptive love. But in his talks, Jesus and Elvis share top billing.
The King of Rock ‘n’ Roll is his calling card, Stanley’s ticket to “go in places and do stuff GREAT men of God have prayed for.”
“I wouldn’t have ANYTHING without Elvis,” he says, simply. “I mean, I was trailer trash.”
Stanley makes no apologies about using Elvis’ name to minister. But there are those who feel he should. Some of those who were closest to Elvis question the sincerity of Stanley’s conversion. They say he has exaggerated his association with the singer, that the money he accepts for speaking is for his own personal gain.
Worst of all, they say, he has yet to come clean about the day “the King” died.
Says Jerry Schilling, Elvis’ boyhood friend and manager: “He doesn’t exist to me, OK?”
Sliding into a booth at a chain restaurant off Interstate 95, Stanley lays a cell phone, an Apple iPad and a leather-bound New King James Bible on the table. He is nearing the end of a swing through east North Carolina tobacco country five schools, a community college and three churches in eight days.
At 56, he’s 14 years older than Elvis was when he died. He’s been touring the country for almost as long as his famous step-sibling was on this Earth.
Before tucking into his meal of Mexican soup and cheese biscuits, he bows his head in prayer.
“I pray you use me tonight,” he says. “Give me favor with these people. They understand it’s not all about my brother. He’s a CHAP-ter. He’s not the book.”
But he doesn’t deny that Elvis was a big, important chapter.
The future preacher was 5 when he and his brothers – Billy and David – entered what he calls “E World.”
It was 1958, and the family was living in West Germany, where father Bill Stanley was stationed with the Army. That same year, a young draftee named Elvis Presley arrived, with his dad Vernon in tow.
Bill Stanley was an alcoholic, and his wife, Dee, was very unhappy. Then she met Vernon, and the petite blond mother of three soon headed home to start divorce proceedings.
Before they knew it, the boys were in the back seat of a shiny Lincoln Continental en route to Memphis, Tenn. When the car finally stopped in front of 3764 Highway 51, now Elvis Presley Boulevard, “it was like the Magic Kingdom for me.”
Stanley says he made his way down to the music room. There, leaning against a stereo and singing along with a gospel record, was Elvis.
The singer, whose twin brother was stillborn, lavished gifts on his new stepbrothers. He would rent a movie theater or book an amusement park and keep the boys out all night. Elvis’ maid drove them to school in the singer’s pink Cadillac.
At 16, Stanley quit school and went on the road with Elvis as part of the “Memphis Mafia” – the singer’s inner circle. Soon, he says, he was strolling the hallways of the Playboy Mansion, and partying with the likes of Jerry Lee Lewis and Led Zeppelin.
As his stepbrother’s aide, Stanley was often entrusted with the “black kit” – the small, leather-sided makeup bag containing Elvis’ cash, credit cards, jewelry and, as the years progressed, a growing array of prescription drugs.
Dispensing the pills became part of his routine, he says. Before a concert, it was a rubdown, coffee and Dexedrine to get Elvis going; between sets, towels to soak up the sweat and Valium to calm him down; back at the hotel, he would check the humidifier, fill the ice bucket with Mountain Valley Spring Water and “take him his nightly medications.”
Stanley was taking pills, too. When he was arrested in 1975 for trying to pass a forged prescription for Demerol, Elvis personally bailed him out of jail.
He went into rehab and was briefly exiled from the entourage. He became addicted to heroin and had to be hospitalized for hepatitis.
“Everybody in the Memphis Mafia knew one of those two guys are gonna die – Elvis or Ricky,” Stanley says.
Stanley says it was during this dark period that the seeds of his conversion were planted.
When he was about 17, he was asked to be a big brother at one of Memphis’s high school sororities. At a party, he met 15-year-old Robyn Moye, and they became friends. Robyn told him she was praying for him and invited him to church; Stanley declined her invitations.
As the Disco era dawned, the aging Elvis struggled to reinvent himself yet again.
By then, the singer had ballooned to 250 pounds and was taking handfuls of pills a day. Things were so bad that members of Presley’s entourage were taking 24-hour shifts, making sure nothing happened to him.
On Aug. 16, 1977, Stanley’s shift was supposed to begin at noon. Stanley says he was at Graceland late the night before when Robyn called, sobbing. She’d dreamed he had died and gone to hell. Shaken, Stanley says he went to see Elvis. He says he sat at the foot of Presley’s bed, and the two talked about prayer and faith.
Eight hours later, “the King” was gone. The official cause of death was listed as heart disease, but tests revealed a potent mixture of prescription drugs in Presley’s system.
The day he died, Elvis was supposed to be leaving on tour. Stanley says he had some errands to run before they left, and asked his brother David to take his shift.
He says he was at a Memphis restaurant with a woman when he had a sudden feeling that something was wrong back at the mansion. He claims to have arrived just as the ambulance was racing away.
But according to Dick Grob, Elvis’ chief of security, David Stanley admitted that he and his brother had been partying with women all night at a nearby motel, and were passed out when Elvis died. Elvis’ personal physician, George Nichopoulos, “Dr. Nick,” repeated the allegations in his own book, published earlier this year.
David Stanley, the youngest of the three brothers, insists the interview with Grob never happened.
Rick Stanley acknowledges having taken drugs the night before, but he says he was sober when he left Elvis and his fiancee, Ginger Alden, in bed at Graceland that morning. Even if he had been there, he doubts it would have made a difference.
In a way, he says, they were all complicit.
“Well, if everybody would have done what they should’ve, we’d have got in the guy’s face a long time ago, ALL of us, and done a – what do they call it now where you set them down? intervention? – and left,” he says. “But that didn’t happen. Everybody wanted their job.”
After Elvis’ funeral, Stanley drifted to California, then eventually made his way to Fort Walton Beach, Fla., where Robyn’s family had moved.
It was there, in a little storefront church on Oct. 16, 1977, two months to the day after Elvis’ death, that he says he had his “Damascus road experience.” His hands were shaking when he stood up to give his first public testimony, but the core of his life’s message was already firmly in place.
Louisiana evangelist Moody Adams heard about Stanley’s conversion and asked him to speak at a revival he was holding in Pearl, Miss. Moody says he tapped Stanley “because he was a drawing card, of course, at the time.”
The July 2, 1978, revival was in a high school football stadium where Stanley says Elvis had once played. When he arrived, police were directing traffic, and people were waving signs – only this time, it was for him.
“And I realized at that minute why I went through everything I did as a child and a teenager,” he wrote in his 1986 book, “The Touch of Two Kings.” “Why was I Elvis Presley’s brother? Why had I been saved? It was for this!”
Stanley and Moye married in September 1978. (He says he agreed to a magazine interview to pay for the wedding rings.)
Two years later, the Rev. W.A. Criswell, founder of Dallas’ Criswell College and a former two-term president of the Southern Baptist Convention, offered to put the young evangelist through school. Stanley got his GED certificate and, in 1986, emerged from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary with an associate’s degree in divinity.
Stanley and his wife (they have two daughters) live in Niceville, Fla. In the years of his ministry, he says he has visited more than 4,000 churches, and held revivals here and in Europe. He gives a secular stay-off-drugs version of his presentation at about 200 high schools a year.
But there are those who don’t buy his tales of his spiritual rebirth.
“The Stanleys, including Ricky, would lie to you with two Bibles in his hand,” Marty Lacker, Elvis’ friend, former bookkeeper and one of the best men at his wedding, wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press.
Schilling, Elvis’ former manager, would say only that he doesn’t “find him consistent.”
“I don’t really have much energy to put on Rick Stanley, you know?” he says from his home in Los Angeles. “I try and spend my life not thinking of the negativities of the past.”
There are discrepancies – some subtle, some not so – between the stories Stanley tells in church and those contained in the three Elvis books he’s co-authored. If he has gotten some things mixed up over the years, Stanley attributes it to faulty memory, the fog of addiction or “adult ADD.”
David Stanley – who has co-written a book and made a film about his life with Elvis – says much of the criticism is born of envy.
“The one thing that no one can take away from Ricky Stanley is the fact of the fact that he was Presley’s brother,” he told the AP in a phone interview. “And God bless Ricky for what he does. Because the only king is Christ.”
Rick Stanley says he’s willing to accept his portion of the blame for Elvis’s death but not all of it.
“People don’t know the guilt I’ve carried,” he says softly. “I’m the guy that was supposed to be there to keep him alive, you know? And I’ve never run from that.”
On a crisp October evening, “Brother Rick” arrives in Selma, an old railroad town 30 miles southeast of Raleigh, in the passenger seat of a loaned Cadillac SUV – blue, not pink. About 300 people have come to hear him, triple the usual attendance for a Wednesday evening service.
As Stanley shakes hands in the vestibule, Sue Bunn, 62, stops to snap a few photos of the celebrity speaker.
“Can’t wait to hear what his message is going to be,” she says, beaming. “Being that he’s lived in that fast life, he’s a witness.”
Stanley does not disappoint.
Dressed in a suede vest, dark jeans and tooled orange-and-brown cowboy boots, the lean, 6-foot-3 preacher stalks the altar, snapping his fingers like a hypnotist attempting to awaken a subject from a trance. His sentences are punctuated with words like “buddy,” “man” and “friend,” and his Tennessee-tinted baritone occasionally sounds a bit like an Elvis impersonation.
Stanley covers a lot of ground, from the reconciliation with his dying father to allusions to his younger daughter’s own drug and alcohol arrests. But the spotlight is on Elvis.
The Elvis of Stanley’s sermon is not the bloated, drug-addled one, blue and cold on a Graceland bathroom floor at the age of 42. He’s the kind, generous Elvis who gave cars to strangers and welcomed three young boys into his home; the deeply spiritual Elvis who longed for salvation and was terribly wounded by the things the church said about him.
When Elvis died, Stanley says, “I was lost. I was undone. I was unforgiven.”
“What do you do when your dream dies before you?” he asks the people staring up at him from the pews. “When everything you’ve looked to and longed for, your dream dies?”
But somehow, through the haze of drugs and booze and women, he says, God found him.
“And He gave me a heart transplant,” he says. “And He put his new spirit within me.”
“AMEN!” a man somewhere in the sanctuary shouts.
He tells the audience that Elvis was saved, and that he knows he’s in heaven. As for those who accuse him of using Elvis, he asks: So what?
“I’m ashamed of a lot, but I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the power of God,” he says, pounding on the pulpit rail with each syllable. “Hey, friend. I’ve been Elvis Presley’s stepbrother 51 years. And for 18 months, I was Michael Jackson’s UNCLE.”
Stanley ends the service with an altar call, to which about two dozen respond. Before dismissing the crowd, Pastor Terry Dennis asks the ushers to take up an offering for Stanley.
They take in about $700.
Stanley says he has never felt “worthy” of the attention. But this is the story God gave him to work with, and he’s going to run with it as long as he can.
“I didn’t ask for this,” he says. “I didn’t ask for ministry.”
SOURCE: The Associated Press
Allen G. Breed is a national writer for The Associated Press, based in Raleigh, N.C. He can be reached at features(at)ap.org.
I wonder if Rick Stanley’s lies about Lisa Marie and Michael Jackson are also “the story God gave him to work with”? And is it God at all who is instructing him in his lies?
What is the name of the entity the Bible calls the Liar and Deceiver? When those who prefer to believe his or anyone’s lies find out who the entity is, please do not tell us that you were not warned. Because you were!
- 14 …even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. (2 Corinthians 11)
Well, I can tell you guys first hand, as a good ol’ Southern girl growing up in Alabama, that racism has always played a huge role in the Presley camp, and it was also the reason a lot of Presley fans resented the Jackson-Presley marriage (whether they would admit it or not, but most didn’t mind mincing words). Elvis’s guitarist Charlie Hodge was a native of my hometown; all my life, it was one of those six degrees of separation thing. Practically everyone in my hometown knew someone who knew Elvis. The PresIeys are not overt racists, but they are/were very Old School Southerners, with roots deeply embedded in Jim Crow culture-perhaps the most dangerous kind of racism, for its the kind of racism that is so deeply ingrained in one’s being and cultural makeup that one doesn’t even think about it-it just is. I remember that when Lisa married Michael, it was like someone had poked a stick into a hornet’s nest! Between the racism and the jealousy of Presley fans, this union didn’t stand a bloody snowball chance of ever being accepted-and Rick Stanley was playing right into that mindset, which he already knew didn’t need much prompting to believe ANYTHING negative when it came to Michael. It didn’t matter in the least if Michael was a world renowned entertainer who had the biggest selling album in the world, or that he owned the Beatles catalog, or had broken records all over the world. To them, he was just another n____ who didn’t know how to stay in his place.