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Ray Chandler SUBPOENA. His incredible cynicism

August 5, 2010

Now that you know the outcome of Ray Chandler subpoena I suggest having a closer look at the documents unsealed by the Superior Court of California concerning this matter: (type Ray Chandler in the “search” section and you get them).

The short of the previous post about Ray Chandler subpoena:

incredible cynicism

Ray Chandler was summoned by the Defense as a ‘custodian of documents’ to prove their authenticity in court but the mere idea of it horrified him so much that he used every possible and impossible pretext to avoid the procedure.

In fact the terror of it was so big that not only did Ray Chandler refuse to appear in court but he also claimed he was covered by the Protective Order which gave the right to Michael Jackson’s witnesses not to disclose to anyone that they had been supboenaed at all. Yes, the right he did have, but the cynicism of this decision is incredible.

I wondered what this Protective Order was all about. Though its exact reason is still unknown to me we can nevertheless get some idea of it from the very text of the document.  It will also be correct to start our minute study of the Superior Court documents with this paper as it is dated July 9, 2004 and chronologically comes first in the succession of documents preceding Ray Chandler subpoena (see pages 27-28 of the 70-page long Ray Chandler’s Motion to Quash the subpoena):

Superior Court of the State of California for the County of Santa Barbara

The People of the state of California, (Plaintiff) vs. Michael Jackson, (Defendant)

Case No. 1133603

Protective Order regarding Defendant’s Subpoenas Duces Tecum

Good cause appearing, it is hereby ordered that the clerk of the court permit Defendant Michael Jackson, by and through his counsel, to subpoena materials without disclosing the nature of the subpoena, the person or items sought by the subpoena, or the response to the subpoena and any materials returned therewith.

It is further ordered, without limiting the generality of the foregoing, that:

  1. The clerk of the court shall segregate and keep confidential and not disclose to the People any materials pertaining to the subpoena, including returns, documents, and other materials returned in response to said subpoena.
  2. The clerk of the court shall permit Counsel for the defendant to subpoena materials to the court on days and times at which the case itself is not on calendar for other purposes.
  3. Persons or entities subpoenaed by the defendant shall not disclose directly or indirectly to the People the fact that they have been subpoenaed or the nature of the subpoena.
  4. Any appearance, objection, compliance, or other communication by a party subpoenaed by the defendant shall be filed under seal.
  5. Any hearings involving the materials pertaining to the subpoena, including returns, documents and other materials returned in response to the subpoena regarding compliance, privacy or other issues shall be held in camera.
  6. This order does not affect the right of any party whose records are subpoenaed to assert any applicable claims of privilege.
  7. Subject to the resolution of any issues of privilege that may be asserted, the clerk of the court shall permit counsel for the defendant to inspect and copy the subpoenaed materials.
  8. A copy of this order shall be served with each subpoena to which it pertains.

Dated July 09 2004                                     Rodnye S.Melville, Judge of the Superior Court

I don’t know what you think of this document, but my impression of it is rather painful. Its last point says it all – it will be served with each subpoena, so that the subpoenaed person will immediately know (right there on the spot) that his privacy will be protected in every way independent of whether he complies with the subpoena, objects to it or just appears before the judge.  No one will ever know that he or she has been subpoenaed – all the movements of a witness will be filed under seal. Even any hearings of the materials in connection with the subpoena will be made in camera (in the chambers of the judge with no onlookers or the jury attending).

The only thing which is required of a witness is to come, please come, don’t be afraid to come, don’t think of the publicity consequences of your decision – your privacy will be well taken care of,  only please come…

The unwillingness of many to take part in this nightmarish process was evidently so huge that even Michael’s true friend, MaCauley Culkin, was not too enthusiastic to go to court, as he said in a interview with Larry King, and would have avoided it if his conscience had ever allowed it (see a post about his testimony in court which he did give and turned into another of his hits:

I can imagine Ray Chandler laughing at obtaining this protective order together with the subpoena and rejoicing at the opportunities it offered. Well, he did make good use of those opportunities. It was because of this document that Ray Chandler demanded hearing of his “documents” in camera only… And it was this order which allowed him to keep everything so hush-hush that no one really knows about his refusal to testify in court even now and the information about it is practically impossible to find….

If it weren’t for just a bit of luck we would have probably never known about the outcome of Ray Chandler subpoena either. Moreover, if he hadn’t made the mistake of babbling about the subpoena himself at various TV shows we would never have known about it at all.

Thank God we do.

How much cynicism should a person have to spread lies about Jackson for years, and when subpoenaed to speak about these lies in court, first refuse to do so under various pretexts and then demand protection of his privacy under the protective order shielding the witnesses of a person he is so shamelessly slandering – only to resume his lies again immediately after escaping the subpoena?

Infinite, immeasurable, indescribable...

13 Comments leave one →
  1. Jan permalink
    September 14, 2010 6:04 pm

    this site should investigate sneddon time in office:


  2. Suzy permalink
    September 14, 2010 3:31 am

    @ anonymous

    I’m not surprised. So much about her newly found truthfulness….


  3. elizabeth- cawobeth permalink
    September 13, 2010 11:53 pm

    Well, I’m finding out who to contact at Huff. Post.
    Excuse me but F her.
    We don’t need anymore MJ hypocrites out here & I’m hoping Huff. Post isn’t becoming one.
    They posted this great article of CT’s, at google news on 5-2-1o…
    But his article of 6-13-10, in Huff Post, never appeared in google news ???
    So, I e-mailed google news to 3 places and Huff Post asking about this.
    Maybe Huff Post doesn’t have DD’s #, if ya know what I mean ?
    I am approaching this as if they don’t (even though I would think they do).
    She’s a notorious speculatory (if that’s a word) slanderer of MJ.
    Meanwhile Huff. Post either cares about integrity in news or they don’t. Enough is enough.


  4. shelly permalink
    September 13, 2010 10:20 pm

    Without MJ, there is no DD. She will have to find another job now.


  5. September 13, 2010 10:05 pm

    I think DD is trying to build a career outside of Michael Jackson because otherwise she really has none.


  6. anonymous permalink
    September 13, 2010 6:31 pm

    @ Suzy
    I did that. I asked twice about those letters and i called her the queen of media lies. They never posted my comment


  7. September 13, 2010 6:22 pm

    i forget to tell you this last year i found an article that said that jordie asked for a jacket and a watch that michael gave him this was when trial was over and the prosecution had to return the evidence i also read that the defense had trouble in getting back the things they took as evidence, now i can’t find that link, i can’t find the story


  8. Suzy permalink
    September 13, 2010 6:04 pm

    Someone should ask her what happened to Michael’s love letters to Gavin Arvizo? LOL.


  9. elizabeth- cawobeth permalink
    September 13, 2010 3:44 pm

    I saw it Jan. Triple Ugh !
    I posted it here at a post that is mostly about her.

    They didn’t post my comment, at Huff post, which I saved. She took control of the comments.
    ” ha, ha, ha !
    OMG…I need not read more from you.
    Hey Huff post, how the heck do you think Ms.DD got th nickname Diane Deamon ?
    From telling the truth ?
    Don’t shame yourselves by promoting reports form this liar.
    The audacity; I swear.
    Ugh ! ”

    God she makes my stomach turn.

    Jan, I am sooo glad to learn of this blog ? Where have I been.
    Where I usually go to work w/others for MJ’s vindication has slowed a lot so…

    thank you for the compliment on my article. It was truly a privilege & pleasure to write.


  10. Jan permalink
    September 13, 2010 12:11 pm

    this is elizabeth-cawobeth fine work:


  11. Jan permalink
    September 13, 2010 12:10 pm

    Have you seen this from diane dimond she takes the biscuit she really does:—b_b_706784.html


  12. elizabeth- cawobeth permalink
    September 13, 2010 4:38 am

    This is a fantastic blog and I just want to say thank you so much for all your efforts.
    We will clear his name and succeed in honoring his legacy the way it should be.
    Medialoids see their day when the truth prevails.


  13. Dialdancer permalink
    August 6, 2010 10:34 am

    Helena, I hope you will revisit Michael’s and Sneddon’s relationship. It seems contact btw the two did not end on June 13, 2005. Available court documents shows a gleeful pettiness displayed by Sneddon and a continued abuse of his authority in the form of legal obstruction long after 6/13/05.

    Sneddon was allowed time and time again to skirt around and step on the court rules, and manufacture charges without showing evidence or true probable cause.

    1. Note the language of the directly under the case number.

    Click to access 031605pltadmdftpriors.pdf

    2. Using false information to request setting an exorbitantly high bail. P.2/S.2/3

    Click to access 091004motccp1008.pdf

    Click to access 102604pltrespbail.pdf

    3. Withholding or late disclosure of evidence and/or witnesses.

    4. Numbering Defense copy of documents differently than DA’s Office.

    Click to access 101204repforensic.pdf

    3. As of the June 17, 2005 Michael was still petitioning for the return of his passport.
    Ordered returned by Court on 6/17/09. Was approx 6/21/09 before received.

    Click to access 061705orderretppt.pdf

    4. Links for Michael’s arrest warrant, his complaint of Police brutality and the Judge’s request for reports and cameras showing his booking are available. What is conspicuous by its’ absence is the the documentation of his arrest and booking. Link does not work.

    Document(s) not available.
    Released: 09/17/2004 Plaintiff’s Ex Parte Request for Order Directing the California Department of Justice Produce Certain Documents and Evidence to the District Attorney Concerning the Arrest and Booking of Defendant

    Click to access 091704ordercadoj.pdf

    One thing is for sure. Should the photos and video film ever reach the general public, Tom Sneddon and Judge Melville are directly responsible.

    Page. 2 line 17

    Click to access 062205pltrespdftprprtd.pdf

    This is a nasty little man. I’d go home happy if I could see him in jail.


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