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Transcript of “Frozen in Time: A Riveting Behind-the-Scenes View of the Michael Jackson Cases”, Part 4. RON ZONEN

November 6, 2010

Here is part 4 of the series, featuring Sneddon’s LITERAL partner in crime Ron Zonen. The video of Zonen, Mesereau, and the Q&A session is below:

 

 

Transcript of “Frozen in Time: A Riveting Behind-the-Scenes View of the Michael Jackson Cases”, Part 4

Ron Zonen: Carl, I met “Billie Jean” too.  She called me as well. Actually, about 10 “Billie Jeans” called me throughout the trial, all professing to be the mother of Michael Jackson’s child, and I actually continue to get those phone calls, the most recent from about 6 months ago from an attorney in Louisiana who is representing a woman who is quite convinced that her child is Michael Jackson’s child. And he now is rather eager to become involved in the resolution of Michael Jackson’s estate.  I told him it’s not a terrible problem to resolve, we do have Mr. Jackson’s DNA on file at the department of justice and it’s a question of getting a simple subpoena to be able to get the form the describes the DNA profile, and you can go ahead and have your clients child DNA’d, and that’s a verb nowadays! (Laughter!).  And that would resolve the issue, and I never heard another word from him.  I was somewhat skeptical about the allegations all along.  I had another lawyer who came to me and was quite convinced, during the course of the trial, that his client gave birth as well to Michael Jackson’s surrogate child, and the child was taken away from the mother quite forcefully and inappropriately, and he was commencing a lawsuit about that, and felt that we should get involved in that investigation as well.  We had those calls come in on a fairly regularly basis, we would get them often, and they were detailed.  Fortunately, we knew that a lot of the activity that Michael Jackson was involved in was, for the most part, involved at either his condo in Los Angeles, his house on Hayvenhurst, or Neverland.  And we had a pretty good understanding of the layout of those 3 locations.  And to that extent when people called and reported a variety of different instances with Michael Jackson, the first thing we were able to do was ask “Where did it occur?”, and then we would say “Describe for us that particular location.”  And we could discredit fairly quickly those people who were making false claims, and there were many of them that came along during at that time.

We have a relatively short window of opportunity to be able to talk about some of the events that led up to the prosecution, and then I assume that we’ll have a few moments to talk about the trial as well.  But to the extent that our office, the District Attorney’s office in Santa Barbara, became involved, let me give you just a little bit of background.  I’m going to talk to you a little bit about the young man today, about Gavin today, because it’s interesting what his life has turned out to be, now 6 years after the trial. Gavin was one of, at that time, 3 siblings. He and his mother and his father lived in a studio apartment in east Los Angeles, one room that had been neatly partitioned with bedsheets so that each group of them within the family had some measure of privacy.  Gavin’s father was an extraordinary violent man, who on a fairly regular basis would administer violence not just upon his wife Janet, the mother of his 3 children, but upon the children as well.  Mostly, though, reserved for his wife. They were married for over 15 years before the police finally came along and took the police finally came along and took the father out of the household.  Gavin was 12 years old at the time, and never saw his father again after that.  When Gavin was about 10 years old, he was diagnosed with cancer, and it was a vile cancer.  It was a cancer that invaded his entire insides. There was a tumor that was about 10 pounds in dimension.  This was a 10-year-old child, and the tumor was about 1/10th of his body weight, or more.  The cancer had spread into his lungs, and he was at death’s door.  At one point doctors had a conversation with his parents in the hospital, and they thought that he was asleep. And they essentially said that, to the extent of Gavin’s remembers that conversation, they essentially said that “you should go ahead and start preparing for a funeral.  He’s not going to survive longer than another couple of weeks.” Gavin did survive.  It was over a year of very intense, adult level radiation treatment, but he actually managed to beat the cancer, and today he’s actually doing quite well.  He’s 20 years old.  During that time, there were a number of different celebrities who were contacted by people who knew Gavin.  They knew that he had been taking classes at the Laugh Factory at Sunset, Jamie Masada’s operation. He was taking classes there on Stand-Up Comedy, actually taught by a number of different comedians, including one who is present in this audience today.  After Gavin became very sick and became hospitalized and appeared to everybody that he wasn’t going to survive, a number of comedians were introduced to him.  People who had actually worked with him as his mentor, that included George Lopez, Jay Leno, and a few other names that you know.  People who you often watched on television when he was so sick that he couldn’t leave the clean room  that he was in for over  a year, except to go to the hospital.  Night and day were no longer of any no relevance to him, so he often watched the comedians on late night television, and really developed a fondness for them.  He also developed a fondness for Michael Jackson, and when asked if there was anybody that he hasn’t yet met, and again he was at death’s door, for somebody that he would want to meet, and he said “Michael Jackson”, and somehow that arrangement was made.  We don’t really know exactly who the link was.  We know a lot of a couple different people who have taken credit for it.  We don’t know both of them were responsible, if it just happened.

Michael Jackson at that time did reach out to people who were ill, particularly kids who were ill and extend his largess and his kindness to them on a regular basis.  He contacted Gavin, and his first conversation was many hours on the telephone, well into the late hours of the morning. Both Gavin and Michael Jackson at that time were quite nocturnal, they were up all night.  Gavin because he couldn’t leave the room, and night and day didn’t have any relevance.  And Michael Jackson because he was nocturnal!  He liked being up at nighttime and not outside during the day.  Being in the direct sun was a particular problem given the skin condition that he had.  But Gavin was invited up to Neverland, and Michael Jackson sent a limousine to pick them up, and his mother required that the two other siblings can go because they all went places together.  And the first time they went with the mother and the father, and thereafter the mother didn’t go back again for quite some period of time. Over the next year Gavin actually survived his cancer, he got better, and today I believe he is completely cured of it.  He had one kidney that was removed, and the second kidney that functions at less than capacity, but that hasn’t stopped him.  He’s very active in sports, and has played high school football, and has pursued a very normal life since that time.  After he was healed, and he was not going back to Neverland.  He was healed, and he was going back to school, and he was a normal child at 12 years old, he was invited back to Neverland, along with his siblings, his brother and sister, and his father was already out of the picture at his point.  He was invited back to Neverland because Michel Jackson, who was not doing well at that time either financially or career-wise, and had not released any significant music at that time, and was horribly in debt to the tunes of what we believed to the tunes of what we believed to be hundreds of millions of dollars, had invited in a documentary maker named Martin Bashir to do a documentary.  Gavin was invited back to the ranch because while Martin Bashir was there and doing this documentary and covering Michael Jackson and everything that was Michael Jackson and including the trips to Las Vegas, and the spending sprees, and the travels to Germany, and the baby over the balcony, and all that was Michael Jackson both good and bad during that period of time.  Martin Bashir was there at exactly the time that these children arrived at Neverland.  They were brought back there because Michael Jackson was very proud at the kindness that he had extended to this family and this very horribly sick and impoverished family, this very sick child who had revered much to Michael Jackson’s credit, as he puts it.  He had recovered from this horrible cancer. While he was there, there was a scene in this documentary that was filmed by Martin Bashir of Gavin sitting on a couch next to Michael Jackson, with his hand in Michael Jackson’s hand, and his head resting on Michael Jackson’s shoulder.  And Michael Jackson is describing how these kids stay with him not just in his house, not just in his room, but in his bed.  And that began a conversation with Martin Bashir, who is no idiot, who immediately decides that there is something remiss here, and starts questioning him about the propriety about children sharing his bed, who were special friends with Michael Jackson, all boys, all between the ages of 10 and no older than 13.  By 13 they were generally out of the picture, and generally not younger than 10. But this whole area was covered at length by Martin Bashir and ended up in the documentary.

The documentary came out, and when it came out it featured this entire conversation with Gavin, and with Michael Jackson sitting one next to another, Gavin juxtaposed to Michael Jackson, his head on his shoulders, hand in Michael Jackson’s hand, talking about them sharing a bed for a prolonged period of time of which Michael Jackson professed was a perfectly normal and perfectly innocent activity.  Gavin went back to school within a few days after that and was horribly tormented by all the other kids who had been in the school and had seen that. Of course the understanding of what had meant to Gavin was something that would be pretty obvious to all of you.  And that is exactly what he was confronted with by all the other children.  Immediately as this was happening, and even before that, the family was invited back to Neverland, and once back at Neverland they stayed at Neverland in what was, we believed, an effort by Michael Jackson’s handlers to keep this entire family away from the press.  Why keep them away from the press? Because they wanted to control the information that was coming out, and because the mother of the child, frankly, was uncontrollable.  She was uncontrollable. She was somewhat, frankly, unstable. She was a person who could say or do anything at any particular time.  She was a very difficult person for anyone to control.  We dealt with significant issues with her during the course of the trial, and of course she was the principal feature for the defense. Essentially, when the trial came along that it was really nothing more than a shakedown in an effort to extort money.  In fact, we of course were of the belief that no such thing happened, and as I describe a little bit more about how these things unfolded, and then you’ll be able to make your own decisions one way or another. While at Neverland for this period of time, this was the period of time that the boys ended up staying at Michael Jackson’s house, in Michael Jackson’s room.  For a long period of time, there was a trip to Florida right before there was an effort by Michael Jackson’s handlers to hold a press conference so that the kids could actually address the press and explain that nothing had happened during this period of time.  And then back at Neverland for a period of a number of weeks while the mother was there but in an entirely different guest cottage.  The kids would be inside the house, inside his room, and to get inside his room you have to go through a locked door, and then you have to go through a combination lock in an entry way to his private room, and then you pass through a security system that sounds chimes and alarms as you go through, and then up the stairs where the bedroom was.  The kids had the combination to that lock, and they came and went.  By kids I mean the two boys and not their sister.  The sister lived in the guest quarters and the mother lived in the guest quarters.  The boys came and went inside of his room.

During that period of time there was an effort by Michael Jackson’s handlers to move the whole family to Brazil.  He actually withdrew the children from school, they moved the entire family out of their studio apartment in east LA. They put all of their belongings into a storage facility where they actually didn’t know where it was.  They got Visas for them.  They got passports for them.  They got one-way tickets for them.  All of which we had, and all of which we took into evidence.  And essentially they were going to move them to Brazil for an undisclosed period of time, which simply could have been indefinite.  The mother did not want to go to Brazil, and eventually she left Neverland, got her kids and brought them out of Neverland, and she then contacted an attorney by the name of Dickerman.  Why did she contact Dickerman? Because her possessions were some place other than in her possession.  She didn’t know where any of her possessions were.  Any of her property, her clothing, her furniture, to the extent that she had it.  Again, she lived in a studio apartment.   She had no idea where any of her possessions were.  She went to Dickerman, who was a friend of Jamie Masada.  That was the recommendation.  The second thing that she wanted of Mr. Dickerman was that her children should not be on television anymore in this documentary.  There was never any permission that was given by her.  At this point she was the sole custodian of the children. The father was long removed from the scene.  There was restraining orders who kept them from that family.  She goes in to see Mr. Dickerman.  She has no knowledge of anything inappropriate having happened at Neverland, other than the presence of her children in the documentary that she objected to. She goes to Dickerman, and Dickerman sees these two young boys, and Dickerman has some knowledge of what happened in 1993, and he immediately contacts Larry Feldman.  And they go to Larry Feldman. Dickerman has no personal information that anything inappropriate happened while they were at Neverland, but has some sense that maybe something more needs to be addressed on this.  Dickerman knows what happened with Larry Feldman in 1993 with that particular lawsuit. And he brings the whole family to Larry Feldman. Larry Feldman looks at Gavin, who at this point is about 12 years old, almost 13 I believe, and sees in Gavin a very strong resemblance to the child from 1993.  They’re the same age, roughly the same size, roughly the same coloring.  You could look at pictures of the two of them, along with two other children who also had a very close intimate relationship with Michael Jackson years prior.  You look at the photographs of all of them together, and at times it’s hard to distinguish one photograph from another.  They all bear very much the same resemblance.  Larry Feldman immediately brings in Stan Katz.  Stan Katz is a psychologist who specializes in child sexual abuse. Stan Katz interviews both of the boys, and at that point there was a disclosure of child sexual abuse.  It was to Stan Katz. Stan Katz immediately notified Child Protective Services in Los Angeles County, who notified Child Protective Services and the Sheriff’s Office in Santa Barbara County, and herego this investigation became active.  At the time the District Attorney in Santa Barbara was Tom Sneddon, who is now retired from that office, now held by Joyce Dovely.  Tom Sneddon was the District Attorney at the time in 1993, and was involved in that investigation.  He had some insight and understanding of the entirety of the case that involved Larry’s client back then.  So he had a pretty good understanding of what was going on. Sheriff’s office commenced an investigation that ultimately led to a search of the property.

At the search of the property they discovered a number of things that were of interest to that prosecution, including a lot of the pornography that Michael Jackson kept at his residence, and particularly in his bedroom.  It was all seized and from that became the largest effort that Santa Barbara has ever had in tracking down and identifying fingerprints on hundreds of magazines, each individual page, each revealing dozens and dozens of fingerprints, but many of those fingerprints ultimately confirmed to be fingerprints of Gavin and Gavin’s brother. Material that they said was shown to them repeatedly was shown to them by Michael Jackson at his house.  As well there was Vodka bottle, a number of different bottles of alcoholic beverages that was consistent with what the kids had said had been served to them at Neverland, in particularly at Michael Jackson’s residence. That was the search; the search eventually led a Grand Jury hearing.  Why a Grand Jury hearing?  Who has participated in a Grand Jury hearing? We have a couple of hands up.  We have a tradition in Santa Barbara.  I can’t speak to other counties, but we have a tradition for high profile cases.  Our little community of Santa Barbara. We don’t go to Santa Barbara because we want to be high profile lawyers.  We go to Santa Barbara because we want to golf! Or be on the beach! It’s a beautiful, angelic community, it’s very nice, and none of us were necessarily accustomed to the kind of profile celebrity status that was going to be visited upon us in the course of that trial.  We made the decision to go to the Grand Jury because we felt it was appropriate, not just for that case, but all celebrity cases, all high profile cases, it’s just kind of an American tradition that the Grand Jury makes the decision. And in this particular case we also had the advantage of being able to do it in secret, hopefully keeping the transcript confidential and sealed, such that everybody would be protected from the content of that hearing from going public before we actually impaneled the jury.  We felt it would be in Mr. Jackson’s benefit.  We felt it would be in our benefit. That it would be the right thing to be able to do. We also felt that if we keep all of the press, and by now it was something I wasn’t familiar with, the press with trucks everywhere as far as you could see.  And we’d step out and they’d follow us. Just like on television when you, with the camera following you as you walk across the street on your way to court, firing questions, and of course at that point we had a gag order, so we couldn’t answer anything anyway, so there’s nothing that we could say.  But that was the type of environment that we had.

We looked for a place to hold the Grand Jury hearing where there wouldn’t be anybody hanging around. And we did it at the Armory.  We did at the firing range for the Sheriff’s Office, which happens to be hundreds and hundreds of acres that secluded from main roads.  The jury would assemble each day in a different location in Santa Barbara in a parking lot, that they would told the night before, so that no press would be there.  It was an Albertson’s parking lot, it was Sears’ parking lot, it was something like that.  Earl Warren’s Showgrounds up there.  One of those locations, the van would then scoop up all of the Grand Jurors.  They would take them to the armory, where they sat in a room which we had converted to a Grand Jury hearing. And for the next 3 weeks we put on I think around 30 witnesses for the Grand Jury, including all 3 of the children and the mother as well, as problematic as that was and continued to be. We did get an indictment at that point.  We made the decision to file it in Santa Maria because, as Judge Melville says, “What happens north of the mountains stays north of the mountains”.  And we felt that would be the appropriate forum. These events took place in Santa Ynez, and that is part of North County officially.  Any other crime that occurs in Santa Ynez would be prosecuted in Santa Maria, and that’s where it was. While our expectation as well is that it would have been assigned to the then most senior judge in Santa Maria, and that would have been Judge Melville, and that was our preference as well.  And that was how that ended.

To deal with the trial itself, because at this point as we’re getting close to the start of trial, we had accumulated something close to 100,000 pages of discovery.  Now Mesereau is going to yell and scream because he only got 50,000 of those, but he actually got the whole thing!  It was all turned over during the course of the trial.  So the three lawyers from our office who would be trying the case lived in Santa Barbara, and decided that we needed to rent a place in Santa Maria, so we rented a house up in Orchid.  Orchid is a very small, bedroom community in Santa Maria, 8 miles south of the courthouse.  I believe that’s actually where Judge Melville lived, and a lot of the attorneys from our office who worked up there lived there as well.  We rented a house, and one of the children of one of the attorneys working on the case ended up nicknaming the house “The H.O.P.”, the House of Prosecution.  The schedule we were on, 8am in the morning until 2pm in the afternoon actually worked quite well for us because it gave us from 2:30pm until we finally retired at the end of the day, to be able to deal with everything. It was our office.  It’s where we stored all of our material, all of our reports, where we set up the computer system. We had no way of bringing in all of the reports of the case into the trial, after the trial had started.  We essentially would put together notebooks every night for the next day as to which witnesses would be on the stand, or once the defense case began that we would be cross-examining.

I thought our relationship with the defense was fairly good.  I mean, there were moments of contentiousness as you can imagine, but we were very good about keeping them informed as to who we would be coming, and they were very good at keeping us very informed about who they would be calling in.  And that’s how we were able to make it through the trial, ultimately.  I think we’re going to have   more of a discussion about jury selection, so I think we’ll probably be going more into the aspects of the trial at a later time, but in terms of the issue of the publicity, we did get a request into the court for a gag order, and that request was granted for the gag order.  Yes, it was true that Tom Sneddon held a press conference, and I’ve watched that press conference with many other people.  At that time I was around the world.  I watched it from the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, where I happened to be, and I was sitting there and thinking it was happening “OK, my life is going to change dramatically at this point”.  I knew about it, but hadn’t told anybody, including all of my family.  We kept it as much of a secret as we possibly could. After that had happened, as Judge Melville points out, Mark Geragos was on Larry King many times a week, and continually talking about the family of grifters that were plaguing his client for an obvious shakedown, and the revenge factor by Tom Sneddon, given the fact that he was not able to prosecute Michael Jackson in 1993.

Now, let me comment on 2 things at the moment as I conclude because I told you I was going to talk to you a little bit about Gavin today.  This was a child who grew up in one room.  The first 10 years of his life were spent in one room with 5 other family members.  He was the victim of a horribly abusive father, and a witness to horribly abusive domestic violence.  He was a victim of cancer that almost killed him.  Before he was 12 years old he endured all of that, and then watching his father being taken away.  He was a rather extraordinary kid.  And then he met Michael Jackson, and we believed was molested by Michael Jackson, and subjected to a horrible ordeal of a trial. At age 15 he stood on the witness stand, took an oath, and sat down and answered questions for hours.  Among the questions, of course, were detailed questions of sexual activities by an international superstar. We lost the case.  He was found not guilty.  We had to explain that to Gavin, what that meant, and what that would likely mean to his life from this point on.  They moved to another location, he used a different name.  He finished high school.  He was outed while he was in high school.  One of Michael Jackson’s fans discovered where he was, and fixed the computer in such a way that all of the MySpace for students at that school, would immediately go directly to his new website, this person which identified Gavin by his photograph, as the person involved in the most uncomplimentary ways possible!

Where is he today?  He’s twenty years old.  He’s a 3rd year student at a very prominent university on the east coast.  I’m not going to mention the name of the school, but anyone who would like to know come see me, I’ll tell you. He’s an Honor student who has a 3.5 GPA, and a double major in Philosophy and History, and he’s planning on going to Law School! Some of you will agree with that, and some of you won’t.  He’s a deeply religious young man, in a relationship with a young woman, for about 2 years, the daughter of a minister.  He attends church on a regular basis.  He doesn’t drink, doesn’t do drugs.  He’s delightful in his presentation.  I spent time with him only a month ago. And he’s really doing remarkable wellHe has never asked for or taken a penny from anybody about any of the activity of this case.  Never. There are standing offers from the press for his story for enough money that would cover his tuition, which is considerable, never mind that he’s on a 50% scholarship. But he has never taken a penny from anybody, and no intention of doing so. He’s accruing debt like college kids do today, but he’s doing just fine.  I assume that we’ll have more questions coming up about jury selection, and the trial, and I’ll be happy to answer them at that time.

Seth Hufstedler: Thank you Ron.  We appreciate that.  I want to thank you so much for coming because it isn’t often that you get invited to talk about a case that you didn’t win.  And if you talk about it, you don’t talk about it very much.  So it’s very helpful, and very direct and straightforward, and we appreciate it.  Now one thing that I should say is that you undoubtedly know that our next speaker is really one of the most prominent criminal defense lawyers in the country, and has dealt with so many of these cases, and I’m just so astounded, and I apologize Tom that you’ve been sitting her for an hour and a half, two hours, and you haven’t had a chance to say a word!  Now that’s a terrible thing to impose upon an effective lawyer! But we do appreciate you coming, and the podium is yours.

Analyzing Ron Zonen’s Commentary:

1.  “most recent from about 6 months ago from an attorney in Louisiana who is representing a woman who is quite convinced that her child is Michael Jackson’s child.”  I’m sure that the “attorney” (and I use that term very loosely here) from the state of Louisiana who is “representing” this nutcase is probably the same attorney from Louisiana (New Orleans, to be exact) who ”represented” Joseph Bartucci Jr., who sued MJ in 2004, claiming that kidnapped and driven to California by unknown assailants on  May 19th,  1984!  When he arrived in California, MJ not only molested him,  but held him at gunpoint and cut him with steel wire and a razor blade!

Oh, and of course he immediately suffered amnesia and forgot about all of this until 2004! The sheer lunacy of this claim comes from the fact that MJ was rehearsing for the Victory Tour and traveling and forth to the White House to meet President Reagan during that time period shortly before and after May 19th, 1984!

Here’s a little background on Bartucci:  he is a serial litigator!  He has been involved in 18 civil lawsuits in the last 17 years, including allegations of sexual abuse by a minister!  Quick! Somebody call SNAP or Road to Recovery! I’m sure they’ll be glad to defend his case!

For more info on Bartucii and other “phantom victims” of MJ, read this post

2. “We had those calls come in on a fairly regularly basis, we would get them often, and they were detailed.” Gee Zonen, what do you expect?  You and Sneddon put out a press release asking for victims of MJ to “come forward with information”!  Have you ever heard of the saying “be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it?”     Here is something to think about: if Sneddon and Co. have to “solicit” for additional victims, then that obviously shows a weakness in their case!  (This topic was addressed in this MJEOL Bullet.) If they had all of this “solid evidence” after their 5 month investigation (June 2003-November 2003), then why did they need to ask for victims to come forward?  Wouldn’t they come on their own?  Do you think actor Todd Bridges would have to be asked or bribed to come  forward if he or his son were abused?

And while we’re on this topic, why did Sneddon wait until December to file charges, even though MJ was arrested on November 21st?  Could it be that he was hoping another credible  “victim” would show up and bolster his case, and allow him to add more charges?

3. “Gavin’s father was an extraordinary violent man, who on a fairly regular basis would administer violence not just upon his wife Janet, the mother of his 3 children, but upon the children as well.  Mostly, though, reserved for his wife.” To call David Arvizo “extraordinary violent” man would be an understatement!  He physically abused his wife and kids, and in fact it was his abuse of Janet that was the catalyst for her shakedown of JC Penney in 1998!  A week after she was arrested, David beat her so severely that she had bruises and welts all over her body, and she was photographed after this event occurred.  She then claimed that the security guards at JC Penney were the ones who inflicted those injuries on her.

But Janet was no angel herself!  According to an interview that David Arvizo conducted with one of  Mesereau’s private investigators, he recalled how their daughter Davellin said that Janet once held a knife to her throat and threatened to kill her and her brothers (on page 13), and a female cousin of Janet who claimed that Janet had sexually and physically abused her when she was between 8 and 10 years old (on page 20.)

4. “We don’t really know exactly who the link was.  We know a lot of a couple different people who have taken credit for it.  We don’t know both of them were responsible, if it just happened.” Although there have been many variations on how exactly Gavin was introduced to MJ, whether it was through the Make-A-Wish foundation or Jamie Masada (the owner of the comedy club that support Gavin through his illness).

The media assumed that it was Masada who introduced Gavin to MJ, and thus Masada took advantage of his connection to the case to get some much-needed publicity for himself and his club.  As usual, the media didn’t veryif their story, but fortunately Geraldo Rivera called him out on his lies!  On his television show, Rivera asked him the tough questions; mainly “Have you ever met Michael Jackson?”, and Masada was forced to ‘fess up!  Here is an excerpt from a MJEOL bullet:

Jamie Masada is the man who claims to have introduced the accuser to Michael Jackson. Masada has also allowed other reporters to assume and imply to their audiences that he had a friendship with Jackson. That friendship, it turns out, is non-existent. Rivera asked Masada if he’s ever even met Jackson and Masada admitted that he has not. What is even more unbelievable is that Rivera may be the only interviewer that even asked whether or not Masada knows Jackson. This is highly important information because Masada has been elevated to the status of a “friend-of-Jackson’s-who-feels-betrayed” by the media. His story has been run on news programs and papers all around the world under the guise of being a Jackson insider. Rivera also confronted Masada about his claims that he introduced Jackson to the accuser. Rivera, who spoke directly with Jackson via telephone Feb 7, says that Jackson was in fact introduced to this accuser through the Make-A-Wish foundation.

Unfortunately, Geraldo was wrong on his assertion that it was the Make-A-Wish foundation, as they strongly denied that they introduced Gavin to MJ  in this November 2003 press release.  The person who arranged Gavin’s first visit to Neverland was actress Vernee Watson-Johnson!  She also testified that she taught Gavin during an acting session at the LA Academy of Fine Arts, and the was very suspicious of Janet Arvizo after she demanded that any money donated to her go straight into her personal bank account, instead of a special count.

What does it say about Sneddon and Zonen’s competance if they don’t even know who was responsible for introducing Gavin to MJ?

5. “While he was there, there was a scene in this documentary that was filmed by Martin Bashir of Gavin sitting on a couch next to Michael Jackson, with his hand in Michael Jackson’s hand, and his head resting on Michael Jackson’s shoulder.  And Michael Jackson is describing how these kids stay with him not just in his house, not just in his room, but in his bed.  And that began a conversation with Martin Bashir….” This is the scene that literally destroyed Michael Jackson’s world!  For years, people have wondered why on earth MJ would allow this scene to transpire, knowing that he had been falsely accused of molestation in 1993, and knowing that being seen holding hands with a young boy couldn’t do anything except bring negative press!  But that’s the problem!  MJ didn’t know that the scene would transpire the way it did!  The purpose of that scene was to discuss all of the good things that MJ did for Gavin, but prior to the start of the interview, Martin Bashir told Gavin to hold hands with MJ and place his head on MJ’s shoulder!  He then told his cameraman to zoom-in on them holding hands, and then when the interview started he ambushed them into discussing their sleeping arrangements! And of course there was no way that Bashir was going to edit this of the documentary, and this scene left an indelible mark on MJ’s reputation, and lead to his conviction in the court of public opinion.

Aphrodite Jones confirmed this in interviews she did earlier this year, and the link to those interviews can be found in this article, and this article.

6. “Martin Bashir, who is no idiot, who immediately decides that there is something remiss here, and starts questioning him about the propriety about children sharing his bed, who were special friends with Michael Jackson, all boys, all between the ages of 10 and no older than 13.  By 13 they were generally out of the picture, and generally not younger than 10.” Well Zonen, if MJ’s special friends were “out of the picture” by the time they reached 13, then why did Brett Barnes, Macauly Culkin, and Wade Robson testify on MJ’s behalf? Why did Robson perform a dance tribute to MJ, and issue a statement after his death? Why did they continue to keep in touch with MJ and visit Neverland throughout their adolescence?  Why did “Dave Dave” speak at MJ’s funeral if he was “dumped” by MJ?  Why did MJ maintain a friendship with Ryan White until he died at the age of 18? That is one of the biggest lies that has been perpetuated by the media.  MJ did not just hang out with young boys; he befriended young girls, teenagers, and adults!  In fact, two girls that vouched for MJ are Nisha Kataria (an aspiring singer who MJ mentored) and Allison V. Smith, who spoke with Ian Halperin for his book “Unmasked”.  Here’s an excerpt:

According to Lennon, Jackson was very shy around girls, like an “awkward teenage.”  But every once in a while, he would hit it off with one and would invite her to his home for sleepovers.

During the course of my investigation, I found four of these girls.  One of them, Allison V. Smith, is now a world-renowned photographer who has shot photos for The New York Times, Esquire, and The New Yorker, among others.  She is also an heiress to the Neiman Marcus luxury department store fortune as the granddaughter of the late retail legend, Stanley Marcus.

“During the trial, they kept talking about all the boys who slept in his bed.  Well, I’m a girl ad I slept in his bed when I was a kid.  The prosecutor must know that there were girls around, but he never mentioned it”, she says, adding that her friendship with Jackson was “a lot of fun” but that she doesn’t like talking about it publicl.y.

“I was tempted to offer myself up as a defense witness,” she recalls, “but I didn’t relish the media circus.”

Here is Robson’s dance tribute to MJ:

7. “Essentially, when the trial came along that it was really nothing more than a shakedown in an effort to extort moneyIn fact, we of course were of the belief that no such thing happened, and as I describe a little bit more about how these things unfolded, and then you’ll be able to make your own decisions one way or another.” This is a quote that unfortunately was taken of context.  William Wagener interviewed a law professor who attended and mistakenly thought that Zonen was implying that  the case really was a shakedown, when in fact he said that was the defense’s theory.

And as for Zonen’s suggestion that we should “make our own decisions one way or another”, I would say to him “Yes Zonen, we have made our own decisions, instead of letting you and media spoon-feed us, and we know that MJ was innocent, and your case was nothing but malicious prosecution, for which you and Sneddon should be jailed!

8. “Dickerman has no personal information that anything inappropriate happened while they were at Neverland, but has some sense that maybe something more needs to be addressed on this.  Dickerman knows what happened with Larry Feldman in 1993 with that particular lawsuit. And he brings the whole family to Larry Feldman.”  If anyone thinks that Dickerman had anything other than sleazy intentions when he referred the Arvizos to Feldman, look no further than his testimony on Day 24 of the trial.  He testified that he had an agreement with Feldman to share fees if the family filed a successful civil lawsuit against MJ in this case.

If Dickerman truly felt that “something more needs to be addressed on this”, then why didn’t he just call the police?

9. “At the search of the property they discovered a number of things that were of interest to that prosecution, including a lot of the pornography that Michael Jackson kept at his residence, and particularly in his bedroom.  It was all seized and from that became the largest effort that Santa Barbara has ever had in tracking down and identifying fingerprints on hundreds of magazines, each individual page, each revealing dozens and dozens of fingerprints, but many of those fingerprints ultimately confirmed to be fingerprints of Gavin and Gavin’s brother.” Let’s set the record straight, once and for all.  Michael Jackson, like any other normal, heterosexual, adult male, had sexual desires for adult women, and like millions of other men, he liked to read pornography.  But let me be perfectly clear; the only pornography that was found was legal, adult, heterosexual porn! There was no gay porn, and there certainly wasn’t any child porn!  In fact, if there was child porn, MJ would still be sitting in a jail cell right now!

Much of what the media and prosecution tried to pass as “porn” were really art books that contained people in various stages of undress. One of the editors of this site bravely went through the exhaustive process of analyzing all of the books that were catalogued by the Santa Barbara Police Department, and the results are listed in the following five articles:

https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/porn-found-inat-michael-jacksons-home/

https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/07/15/porn-found-at-michael-jacksons-home-2/

https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/porn-found-in-michael-jacksons-home/

https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/porn-found-in-michael-jacksons-home-4/

https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/07/21/porn-found-in-michael-jacksons-home-last-remark/

And as far as finding Gavin and Star’s fingerprints on those porn magazines, it is because they stumbled unto it themselves, and does NOT in and of itself mean that MJ showed it to them! (The same way that just because there are multiple DNA samples in a bed, it doesn’t mean that the occupants of the bed were sexually active!! Hint, hint!)

Here is William Wagener talking with MJ’s attorney Brian Oxman about Sneddon’s fingerprint tampering at the Grand Jury hearing:

10. “I can’t speak to other counties, but we have a tradition for high-profile cases.  Our little community of Santa Barbara. We don’t go to Santa Barbara because we want to be high-profile lawyers.  We go to Santa Barbara because we want to golf! Or be on the beach!” Once again, another unprofessional comment from someone who acts like he’s doing stand-up comedy!  Nobody cares about your fondness of golfing or going to the beach!

11.  “And in this particular case we also had the advantage of being able to do it in secret, hopefully keeping the transcript confidential and sealed, such that everybody would be protected from the content of that hearing from going public before we actually impaneled the jury.  We felt it would be in Mr. Jackson’s benefit.  We felt it would be in our benefit. That it would be the right thing to be able to do.” Stop lying, Zonen!  You know damn well that you and Sneddon were responsible for leaking the grand jury transcripts in January 14th, 2005, almost 9 months after the grand jury proceedings ended and MJ was indicted in April 2004.  The timing of the leak is no coincidence, as it was leaked to coincide with the start of jury selection, in an attempt to taint the jury pool with prejudicial evidence.  Here is Mesereau’s response to the leak, as well as some idiots that felt that MJ leaked them himself in order to have a mistrial, which doesn’t make sense when he had no access to the documents at all!

And if you were really concerned about “benefiting” MJ, then why didn’t you have a preliminary hearing where he could cross-examine your witnesses, instead of having a grand jury where MJ’s defense team could not be present?  The following article describes succinctly the differences between a preliminary hearing and a grand jury hearing, and how the grand jury hearing is more advantageous to an overzealous prosecutor.  Here is an excerpt:

Countless Americans went to bed Wednesday night wrestling with two puzzling questions: Why was Jennifer Hudson voted off and what does being indicted by a grand jury mean for Michael Jackson?

Right around the time of the shocking “American Idol” development, news broke that Jackson had been indicted on child-molestation charges.

But Jackson was already charged, right? Yes, and who could forget that spectacle? But after a defendant is arraigned, there is typically a preliminary hearing where a judge decides if there’s enough evidence for the case to go to trial.

Prosecutors also have the option, according to Stephan DeSales, an Orange County criminal defense attorney who has handled many molestation cases, to instead request a grand jury review the case and determine if the accused should stand trial, which the Jackson grand jurors decided Wednesday.

The main differences between a preliminary hearing and a grand jury investigation is that the latter proceedings are held without defense attorneys present and are not open to the public.

Fundamentally, it’s a way to bypass the ability of the defense to cross-examine, which they would have the right to do at a preliminary hearing,” said DeSales, former prosecutor for Los Angeles County. “The old saying is the district attorney could indict a ham sandwich if he wanted to because the grand jury is more or less a rubber stamp for the DA.”

The district attorney — in Jackson’s case Tom Sneddon  — is required, however, to present to the grand jurors any evidence that might clear the defendant.

Judging by Mesereau’s scathing 212 page motion to set aside MJ’s indictment due to prosecutorial misconduct, I think it’s fair to say that Sneddon absolutely did NOT present to the grand jurors any evidence that might clear MJ!!

12. “And then he met Michael Jackson, and we believed was molested by Michael Jackson, and subjected to a horrible ordeal of a trial.” The reason you and Sneddon “believed” that MJ had molested Gavin is because Gavin told you and your goons exactly what you wanted to hear!  You and Sneddon waited 10 years for someone –anyone!- to say that they were molested, when Larry Feldman and Stan Katz notified you of Gavin’s claims,  I bet you high-fived each other as if your favorite football team won the Super Bowl on the last play of the game!

There was no objectivity or professional skepticism whatsoever by any of the detectives who interviewed Gavin.  Robert Sanger, one of MJ’s attorneys, ripped one of your investigators for their shoddy work on Day 12 of the trial!  Here is an excerpt of his cross examination of Sergeant Robel:

MR. SANGER: All right. So June 20, you had information that had been obtained from Dr. Katz, and July 7th, you proceed to interview the kids, right?

SERGEANT ROBEL: That is correct.

MR. SANGER: And on that date, you indicated that, “We’re going to try our best to make this case work“; is that correct?

SERGEANT ROBEL: Let me refer to that.

MR. SANGER: You can look at — it’s in Davellin’s interview, page 33.

SERGEANT ROBEL: Okay. I’m on page 33. There was quite a bit more where that – in addition to what I said in regards to that.

MR. SANGER: Well, we can read the whole thing.

SERGEANT ROBEL: Okay. I already read the whole thing.

MR. SANGER: All right. So you said to Davellin at the — towards the end of her interview, “Okay. Okay. One thing I wanted to say and emphasize to you is that you guys are doing the right thing here. You know what, I know it’s scary, and I realize — really realize that you guys are going through a lot and you’ve been through a lot as a family. They’re the ones that have done wrong, not you. And trust me in this, and trust Detective Zelis, we’re law enforcement. We’re going to try our best to make this case work. I can’t guarantee it, where it’s going to go from here, but that’s why we’re interviewing everybody involved. I don’t care how much money they have” – do you want me to keep going? – “who he is, what — but he’s done wrong. You guys are the victims. Your family is. He is wrong in what he’s done. We’re going to try our best. Can’t guarantee it. We’re going to try our best to bring him to justice.” Did you say that?

SERGEANT ROBEL: I definitely said that.

MR. SANGER: Okay. So that’s not the statement of somebody who has an open mind who’s looking to see whether or not these people are telling the truth, is it?

13.  “He was outed while he was in high school.  One of Michael Jackson’s fans discovered where he was, and fixed the computer in such a way that all of the MySpace for students at that school, would immediately go directly to his new website, this person which identified Gavin by his photograph, as the person involved in the most uncomplimentary ways possible!” Well Zonen, guess who is the person who outed precious Gavin and Star to the world? It was your GIRLFRIEND, prosecution witness Louise Palanker!!!  She posted photos of them at a football game on her blog on December 22nd, 2005, and had the audacity to criticize the fans that harassed them at their school.  Wanna have a good laugh?  Then read the following excerpt from her blog post:

I believed the boy, my friend, before the trial. After seeing the evidence presented in court, I now believe resoundingly beyond any personal doubt that Michael Jackson is guilty. The fans and I, have different beliefs. However, I do not, nor would I ever consider taunting or harassing them or their loved ones. It would be pleasant if they showed the same respect. But they don’t and they won’t. They will continue their smear campaign in service to their idol. It’s dangerous for any among us to place so much faith in a person we don’t even know.

My view and my belief in this boy and the veracity of the State’s case is firmly intact and it will not be swayed by anything I read or hear. For those who believe Michael, their faith is just as strong. However, harming the children doesn’t help Michael. The fact that they think it does, is what saddens me.

It’s funny how she says that he belief in MJ’s guilt is rooted in the “evidence” that she saw, yet to this day she has never stated exactly what that evidence was!

Here is a photo of Palanker and  “Ronnie” enjoying each other’s company! This photo is posted on Palanker’s blog.

14. “Where is he today?  He’s twenty years old.  He’s a 3rd year student at a very prominent university on the east coast.  I’m not going to mention the name of the school, but anyone who would like to know come see me, I’ll tell you. He’s an Honor student who has a 3.5 GPA, and a double major in Philosophy and History, and he’s planning on going to Law School!” Here is the latest info on Gavin and Star:  they were both attending Georgia Military College, and they both made the Dean’s List in the Fall 2009 quarter. Gavin has since transferred to Georgia State University.

Good for them, huh? At least we know that Gavin, being the professional and unethical liar that he is, will join a profession that will welcome him with open arms! Read this post for more info on the Arvizos.

And as an added bonus (with special thanks to our reader known as  “Rockforeveron”), here is a recent photo of Gavin, provided by one of his ex-girlfriends!  Here is some dirt on Gavin that was posted on a forum.  Notice Gavin’s complete lack of contrition, which should eviscerate any hopes that he’ll one day speak out!

well i was on the internet talking to one of my friends from mcintosh high school when i brought up MJ and she started to break down because she was gavin’s ex gf she told me how he went around bragging how he accused michael of molesting him and everyone thought he was soo cool he even slipped up and said the story was made up so the girl actually went around the school and told everybody when she caught him cheating on her but anyways gavin goes to this gym it was in peachtree city (it still is) but they moved to a new location he likes boxing and MMA (mixed martial arts) and trains at a gym called LA boxing. he used to go to georgia military college but he transferred to Georgia State he has to be pursuing a major in business he goes by anton jackson (jackson is his step father’s last name), david jackson, anton arvizo or gavin arvizo. his brother goes by starr jackson or starr arvizo


here are his recently updated pics


Gavin & Star Arvizo with Louise Palanker. Aawwwwww! Look how big they've gotten! They're so adorable! NOT!!!!

15. “I spent time with him only a month ago. And he’s really doing remarkable well.  He has never asked for or taken a penny from anybody about any of the activity of this case.  Never.” & “But he has never taken a penny from anybody, and no intention of doing so.” No wonder Gavin will never speak out and tell the truth!  He’s FRIENDS with Zonen, and certainly Sneddon, and the rest of their goons!  He’ll never snitch on the people who encouraged and enabled his lies!  It wouldn’t surprise me if Gavin and Janet promised to share some of their settlement with them, which they easily would have won had MJ been falsely convicted.

Stay tuned for Part 5, featuring the one and only Tom Mesereau!

Update 11-08-2010

Here is additional information provided by Helena:

Gavin was friends with Tom Sneddon to a point of calling the Prosecutor by his first name:

“When the current accuser testified, jurors saw a teenager so at ease with prosecutors that he addressed Sneddon by his first name. But under grilling by Mesereau, he lapsed into a mumbling monotone, especially when asked about inconsistencies in his various accounts of the alleged molestations. http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/05/local/me-jackson5/4

Thanks to Olga we have the LA Times and Santa Barbara News Archive for that period – so here are a couple of things to add to David’s post (could you update it David, please ?):

1) Zonen says the tickets to Brazil were one way only, but according to the LA Times it was a two-way ticket with a return day a week later – see several articles:

“Poking holes in her [Janet Arvizo’s] claim of the Brazilian plot, Mesereau produced an itinerary showing that round-trip tickets had been purchased for just a one-week jaunt from Los Angeles to Sao Paulo.”http://articles.latimes.com/2005/apr/19/local/me-jackson19

“Of her allegation that Jackson’s aides plotted to spirit the woman and her family to Brazil, the defense lawyer noted that the airline tickets for the journey were round-trip, with a return flight scheduled a week later.”http://articles.latimes.com/2005/apr/20/local/me-jackson20

“First up for the Santa Barbara County district attorney’s office was Cynthia C. Montgomery, a travel agent who said a Jackson aide told her to book one-way tickets to Brazil for the family of the cancer survivor who alleges the singer molested him in 2003, when he was 13.
The testimony seemed to support the prosecution’s contention that Jackson conspired to hold the family members against their will and hide them from the media after a British documentary raised questions about his relationship with the teenage boy.
But within moments, Jackson lawyer Thomas A. Mesereau Jr. pointed out that Montgomery is being investigated by the FBI for apparently making a secret videotape of Jackson on a chartered flight.
Montgomery conceded that she agreed to testify only after the prosecution granted her immunity, meaning nothing she said in court could be used against her.
“If you did not receive a grant of immunity, you wouldn’t testify, correct?” Mesereau asked.
“Um, per my lawyer’s instructions,” Montgomery said.
Montgomery acknowledged that she and Jackson were suing each other over a November 2003 flight from Las Vegas to Santa Barbara, where he surrendered to sheriff’s deputies.
http://articles.latimes.com/2005/apr/27/local/me-jackson27

Pryor, the mother of a 6-year-old son with Tucker, said she and the comic got to know the woman and her three children after a benefit for the cancer-stricken boy, who eventually accused Jackson of molesting him at the singer’s Neverland ranch.
They took the family under their wing, treating them to an outing at Knott’s Berry Farm and a trip to Oakland for a Raiders game, and inviting them to a relative’s wedding. Pryor said she became the mother’s confidante, acting as a sympathetic listener in countless phone conversations.
At one point in her testimony, Pryor broke into tears, explaining, “It’s hard for me because I really love the kids a lot.”
In February 2003, Pryor said the mother called her from the video shoot where she and her children lavishly praised Jackson as a warm, wise, humble, loving, father-like presence.
The mother “seemed happy” at the video session, Pryor testified, saying the woman was eager to tell the world that the relationship between Jackson and her son “was nothing more than a beautiful friendship.”

A few weeks later, Pryor said, the mother also seemed happy over plans for the trip to Brazil. She said that she, Jackson and their respective children would be attending Carnival, the Brazilian holiday celebration, and asked Pryor if she would like to come along.
About a month later, though, the mother changed her mind, citing her children’s extended absence from school and uncertainty over just where the family would stay in Brazil, Pryor testified.

Asked by defense attorney Thomas A. Mesereau whether the mother ever told her that “Michael Jackson was in a conspiracy to commit crimes against her family,” she replied swiftly.
“Absolutely not,” Pryor said.
http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/20/local/me-jackson20

2) Zonen says that “Michael moved the entire family out of their studio apartment in east LA. They put all of their belongings into a storage facility where they actually didn’t know where it was. She didn’t know where any of her possessions were. Any of her property, her clothing, her furniture, to the extent that she had it.”

And this article says that it was Janet Arvizo who asked her belongings to be removed:http://www.jacksonaction.com/index.php?page=search.php&id=4683&search=

Geragos: ‘He was a ripe target’ May 14, 2005 12:00 AM
Excerpt:
Michael Jackson’s former criminal lawyer, Mark Geragos, [later replaced by Thomas Mesereau] testified Friday that he had attempted to protect the entertainer from a predatory family — not facilitate what the prosecution alleges was a conspiracy.
Mr. Geragos said he met the mother at Neverland Valley Ranch on Feb. 7, 2003, the day after a British documentary aired and created a public relations firestorm — including cries for social service and criminal investigations of the entertainer.
Mr. Geragos said he was hired to determine whether any investigations of Mr. Jackson had commenced. While at Neverland, he heard the boy had been instructed to refer to Mr. Jackson as “Daddy.”

“It gave me reason to pause,” Mr. Geragos testified. “In response to that, I decided to run a database search . . . I was concerned at that point, given the situation, that someone might use the situation to manipulate my client. It was not unknown to me that my client was a frequent target of litigation. . . . He was a ripe target.”
He said he became gravely concerned when his search unearthed a lawsuit the mother filed against J.C. Penney Co. She received a $150,000 settlement. Mr. Geragos testified that he instructed private investigator Bradley Miller to get a tape-recorded statement from the family and to surveil them in case they tried to sell their story to tabloids or file suit against the entertainer.
Senior Deputy District Attorney Ron Zonen’s cross-examination of Mr. Geragos was so aggressive that Judge Rodney Melville called for a timeout.
Prosecutors allege that Jackson associates moved the family out of their East Los Angeles apartment and put their belongings in storage because they were preparing to whisk them to Brazil. But Mr. Geragos testified that the mother asked his private investigator to help her store the items because she was moving in with her boyfriend. He said at that time he knew nothing about the planned Brazil trip.
On cross-examination, Mr. Zonen asked Mr. Geragos whether he had seen the documentary that contains “an admission to sleeping with boys.”
“What do you mean, sleeping with boys?” Mr. Geragos asked.
“That he sleeps with boys,” Mr. Zonen said.
“You mean that boys stay in his room?” Mr. Geragos asked.
“I mean that he sleeps with boys,” Mr. Zonen said.
“Are you saying it’s sexual?” Mr. Geragos asked.
The heated exchange continued until the judge told Mr. Zonen to take a timeout. When questioning resumed, the prosecutor asked whether Mr. Geragos advised his client not to sleep with boys.
Mr. Geragos responded he did not: “I saw someone who was childlike in his love for kids. I saw nothing criminal. Nothing nefarious.”
When asked what Mr. Jackson told him later about it, Mr. Geragos said, “He has consistently said he didn’t do anything — nothing untoward, nothing sexual and if someone spends the night in his room, it was just an act of unconditional love.
“The problem, Mr. Zonen, is when people say ‘sleeping with someone in his room’ and then there’s this jump to it being something awful and really, really bad.”
Mr. Geragos is scheduled to return to the stand on May 20.
e-mail: dhobbs@newspress.com

3) Zonen describes the security system on Michael’s inside rooms as a very complex system – locked door, a combination door, alarm system and up the stairs, the mere enumeration of which implies something sinister.

This is what Christopher Culkin, father of Macauley (who is an awful disciplinarian, a no friend to Michael though he doesn’t speak badly of him) says about the need for the alarm system and what it was like – among other things:

“…folks who would gladly pay for a helicopter ride who’s tour included as its centerpiece the buzzing of Michael’s home. To Michael the Scardey-Cat they all represented the specter of hooded terrorists, dressed as perfect ninjas, skidding down ropes onto the property, the better to commit “The Kidnapping of the Century”; and even though none of this ever did occur, there were other times when no less benign incidents would only go to feed this fear.
Take the morning when Michael arose and walked into his private garden, there to find a fan crouched in the bushes; a fan “fanatical” enough to enter the property and scale the wall and spend the night there (Can anyone yet remember the just who and the just where of John Lennon’s murder?!).

That Michael would respond to such as this by actually outfitting his bedroom with a relatively conspicuous store-bought beam alarm system (one that the entire cleaning staff knew existed and that could be simply stepped over), as well as with a so-called “secret room” (really a closet) to which he could run in times of such emergency should not surprise anyone; indeed, these are things that under like circumstances most any of us would do.

But when viewed through the lens of p-lia, the existence of these could only have a far more sinister purpose. And that was Michael’s problem in a nutshell, and there was little that Michael could thereafter ever do about it. It was the bell that couldn’t be un-rung. It was the genie who wouldn’t return to the bottle. It was the negative that can never be disproved. And it was a problem exacerbated by the fact that Michael couldn’t help (as few of us can) but be himself; his prim and prissy self. Unable to speak words like “sexually molest”, he could only respond in his ever effeminate way by saying, “I would never hurt a child”, which only made him sound more than anything else like a charter member of your local man-boy association. It was a perfectly impossible situation for him.

4) A couple of other things about the habits and character of the boy who is now of such an impeccable behavior and is so terribly “religious”:

A 16-year-old cousin of Jackson also testified Tuesday, saying she once saw the accuser and his younger brother snatch two bottles of wine and a wineglass from the kitchen of the singer’s Neverland ranch at 1 a.m. Simone Jackson was the third witness in two days to suggest that the brothers, then 12 and 13, were big drinkers who swilled wine without the pop star’s permission or knowledge.
http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/18/local/me-jackson18

Former Neverland guard Shane Meridith said he caught the accuser and his brother “laughing and giggling” over a half-empty bottle of wine in the ranch’s ordinarily locked wine cellar. Jackson was not on the property at the time, he said.
And Angel Vivanco, a chef’s assistant, said the accuser’s brother, who was 12 at the time, threatened him in order to get a liquor-laced milkshake.
“He said if I didn’t do it, he’d tell Michael Jackson and I’d get fired,” Vivanco testified.
http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/17/local/me-jackson17

Under cross-examination by lead defense lawyer Thomas Mesereau, Ms. Bell [a flight attendant] described what she saw on the chartered flight from Miami to Santa Barbara in February 2003.

She told jurors that the boy was rude and out of control and characterized Mr. Jackson as a quiet, gentle man.
“(The boy) was unusually rude, discourteous,” Ms. Bell testified. “I remember him talking about how, ‘I got this watch from Michael and it’s real expensive.’ . . . He was obnoxious. “When I served him food, he said ‘This isn’t warm. This isn’t the way it’s supposed to be.’ It was embarrassing to have him on board, actually.”

She then described Mr. Jackson as “soft-spoken.”

“Is there anything peculiar about the means or method you serve Mr. Jackson alcohol?” Senior Deputy District Attorney Gordon Auchincloss asked Cynthia Bell, who worked on a jet chartered by the pop star.
“Mr. Jackson is a very private drinker,” Ms. Bell responded. “I initiated serving him wine in a Diet Coke can. . . . I serve other clients that way.”
“Whose idea was this?” Mr. Auchincloss asked.
“It was mine,” she said.
Mr. Auchincloss continued: “Did Mr. Jackson ever tell you to serve him wine in a Diet Coke can?”
“No, he did not,” she said.
“Did you ever see him share his can of wine with anyone else?” the prosecutor asked.
“No,” she replied.

THE JACKSON TRIAL: Witness thwarts wine allegation: http://www.jacksonaction.com/index.php?page=search.php&id=4722&search=

5) And one more thing – the assistant to Michael’s lawyer Mark Geragos, whose name is Bradley Miller has turned out to be a patient of psychiatrist Dr. Katz (the one to whom Larry Feldman sent Gavin for an interview and who eventually reported the case to the police):

THE JACKSON CASE: Key Players
By Scott Hadly and Dawn Hobbs

August 25, 2004 12:00 AM

Dr. Stan Katz, a Beverly Hills psychologist who interviewed the 13-year-old boy in this case. Dr. Katz also assisted in the 1993 case. He reported the allegations in the current one in June 2003 after a therapy session with the boy. In an odd twist, defense attorneys revealed that both the alleged victim and the private investigator who worked for Mr. Geragos, Bradley Miller, were patients of Dr. Katz.

Bradley Miller is a Beverly Hills private investigator who worked for Mr. Geragos on the case. He reportedly was involved in a videotaped interview with the boy and his family after a British documentary aired which shows Mr. Jackson holding hands with the boy and stating that he shares his bed with children.


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  1. Truth Prevail permalink
    October 5, 2011 9:49 pm

    am still shocked that haters still stick 2 the sme one liner “he paid his victims off its not rocket science to figure that out”

    Really? i mean they even say he wasnt cleared of wrongdoing when in fact court transcripts tell another story a story called NOT GUILTY!!!

    imean if thats the best they can come up with in their delusional mind of enjoying potraying innocent people Peados and that their delusion is soo deep that they are willing to make stuff up in order 2 mke them feel their delusion is true!!!

    the pople who belive mj was innocent have defo won against the idiots who think he was guilty!

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  2. October 5, 2011 8:14 pm

    Hey Mr. Zonen, If the Arvizos are such honest people who weren’t after money, then why did they go to civil lawyers first and waited 4 months before finally going to the police?

    LMAO they really have these people suckered and fooled like a bunch of saps. Of course they were after money. The whole thing was a set up from the very beginning. It was mentioned in trial documents that Janet arvizo had consulted with a civil lawyer about suing michael jackson for child molestation before she even met him. Yes that’s right ladies and gentlemen, she was already civil lawyer shopping before she even met the man which proves that she had it in for him from day one. The woman was a no moral compass having con artist who raised her children to lie, steal and cheat. They were a very poor family from East LA who couldn’t afford much, so lying/scamming for them was a way of life. Before they came in contact with Michale Jackson, they had already scammed other celebrities and various other people with their woeful stories and manipulations. Janet Arvizo was very aware of the 1993 allegations and had set out to meet Michael jackson in the hopes of falsely accusing him of molesting her son and obtaining a settlement just like how she falsley accused JCpenny, but because of the new change of law that was enacted in california by Tom sneddon, she and her family had to go through a criminal case before a civil case, so that right there should wipe out the nonsensical argument that they weren’t after money because they never filed a civil suit.

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  3. Deborah Ffrench permalink
    October 5, 2011 1:46 pm

    Thanks David for the update here. How deep these connections go.

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  4. Tahlia permalink
    October 5, 2011 12:51 pm

    Thanks for putting up the photos, although I must say it makes me feel a little sick to look at them. I don’t think Gavin has a conscience, and I hope he will one day be exposed and humiliated in front of the entire world.

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  5. lcpledwards permalink
    October 5, 2011 6:16 am

    Hey guys! I added a recent photo of Gavin Arvizo, Star Arvizo, and Louise Palanker to bullet point 14! Check it out!

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  6. Dialdancer permalink
    March 8, 2011 3:00 am

    I’ve been reading from MJEOL again. Did you know Zonen acted as a consultant on Alpha Dog?

    Two Santa Barbara Prosecutors Thrown off Different Cases:

    “Zonen — by his own admission — handed over to the filmmakers confidential documents including rap sheets, witness phone numbers, and a psychiatric report. One of the filmmakers, Michael Mehan, discussed the case with Zonen after interviewing the witnesses, potentially violating the defense’s right to discovery of the same evidence to which the prosecutor is privy.”

    http://site2.mjeol.com/santa-barbara-county/two-santa-barbara-prosecutors-thrown-off-different-cases.html

    Say What???? “To say that Zonen went too far in his attempt to apprehend the petitioner is an understatement,” wrote the justices, who added that they did not want to “embolden other prosecutors to assist the media in the public vilification of a defendant in a case which is yet to be tried.”…………..A little late on that decision aren’t they?

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  7. Suzy permalink
    February 11, 2011 5:25 am

    Of course, whether a tabloid story is true we can never know, no matter if it’s about Michael or about his accusers. So I agree about that one with Fantom. However let me emphasize that while haters build their case on tabloid stories and without tabloid stories they don’t really have anything, we don’t need these tabloid stories to show MJ was innocent. Our case against his accusers is totally strong without tabloid stories as well!

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  8. Fantom permalink
    February 11, 2011 4:31 am

    @lcpledwards

    Yet it is an unsourced story from the tabloids.

    Come on, you can do better than that. It was stories such as this that killed Mike, we can’t afford to be hypocritical and allow our adversaries to undermine us if we use such sources. Think about it.

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  9. lcpledwards permalink
    February 11, 2011 3:50 am

    @ Fantom
    I posted that article because, regardless of the source, it was relevant to the conversation we were having about the Arvizo family. This is critical information because it shows how unremorseful the Arvizos were a year after the acquittals. For Janet to blame Gavin for not being “believable”, and for Gavin to say that MJ “ruined his life” is indicative of their character, or lack thereof.

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  10. Fantom permalink
    February 11, 2011 3:06 am

    @lcpledwards

    Why are you posting tabloid trash? This is the kind of thing Mike railed against. This site should be above all that. We don’t accept it from the haters so we shouldn’t be doing it either.

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  11. Dialdancer permalink
    February 11, 2011 1:24 am

    The source sounds like one Ron Zonen

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  12. lcpledwards permalink
    February 11, 2011 12:21 am

    Guys, here is an interesting story about the Arvizo’s from July 2006. During that time period, the family fell apart, and Janet actually blamed Gavin for being a poor witness!

    “His mother barely speaks to him. She won’t cook for him. She treats him like dirt, and she won’t let him go to counseling to deal with the trauma. She blames him for the whole mess and says she wants to move on,” said a source familiar with the boy’s plight.

    Living under an assumed name in Orange County, Calif., the boy is torn between hiding his past from the world and paying for it every time he walks through the door of his home.
    “Mentally, he’s really messed up right now. He never knows what verbal abuse will be thrown at him when he goes home,” said the source.

    The 38-year-old mother, who has a documented history of mental problems and could not be reached for comment, often tells the boy it’s his fault the pop singer allegedly molested him, the source said.

    “She screams at him, ‘You allowed him to touch you! You allowed him to do it!’ And she blames him for not getting the jury to believe him,” the source says.

    The mom even blames the boy for the welfare fraud charges she is facing in Los Angeles County because her alleged $8,000 scheme was unearthed by investigators working for Michael Jackson during the criminal case.

    “Everything is his fault,” the source said.

    What a joke, huh? She’s blaming Gavin?!!! Oh, it gets better! Look at what Gavin had to say:

    “[The accuser] just keeps saying, ‘I wish I never met Michael Jackson. He ruined my life,’ ” said the source.

    It’s funny because he surely didn’t say that on the rebuttal tape!! Remember how you praised him, Gavin? Remember how you gave him credit for helping you beat cancer?

    If anything, Michael should be saying that about Gavin! It was Gavin who ruined Michael’s life!

    http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2006/07/02/2006-07-02_mom_hell_for_jacko_accuser__.html

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  13. February 8, 2011 11:17 am

    BTW have you guys heard anything about Gavin’s current contact with his mother Janet? Is she still married to the Jackson guy or did they divorce?

    Because judging from the info I have on him now his current situation seems a little similiar to Jordan’s right after 1994…

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  14. pauline permalink
    January 2, 2011 10:48 am

    Zonen can whine all he wants to about jury selection, but at the end of the day, the verdict still would have been the same because no self-respecting person would have ever believed Janet Arvizo and her family’s outrageous claims.

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  15. Suzy permalink
    November 28, 2010 9:16 pm

    I found a picture of Michael playing with his cousins, Rijo and Simone (the ones who testified in his defense) during the trial: http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7671/flyignwkidsloukair9.jpg

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  16. nan permalink
    November 8, 2010 4:31 pm

    seems to me gavin is playing the district atty in order to get school recommendations and eventually a job. why else would gavin still need zonen…that picture of gavins disgusts me . he looks like pure evil to me

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  17. pam permalink
    November 8, 2010 1:30 pm

    Can you imagine the kind of pain and betrayal Michael must have felt? This kid who he helped in his darkest hour and showed nothing but love and support could then turn around and become friends with his arch enemy tom sneddon and work against him..Thats just unthinkable.

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  18. November 8, 2010 8:56 am

    Guys, sorry for joining you only now. David, thank you so much! It was extremely interesting to see how the police – instead of asking Gavin what he had to say were telling him what they had to say about it. And that sergeant was quite open about it – he probably even didn’t understand it was wrong! With this type of interviewing one wonders what else they could have hammered into their heads.

    It seems the prosecution is still keeping an eye on the Arvizos and sustains a kind of a ‘friendship’ with them. Most probably they don’t want any disclosures from the family of any inside information and prefer to keep them close at hand. The Arvizos could be gaining something from this friendship in terms of the necessary connections, a word put in for them here and there, etc.

    Gavin was friends with Tom Sneddon to the point of calling the Prosecutor by his first name:

    “When the current accuser testified, jurors saw a teenager so at ease with prosecutors that he addressed Sneddon by his first name. But under grilling by Mesereau, he lapsed into a mumbling monotone, especially when asked about inconsistencies in his various accounts of the alleged molestations. http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/05/local/me-jackson5/4

    Thanks to Olga we have the LA Times and Santa Barbara News Archive for that period – so here are a couple of things to add to David’s post (could you update it David, please ?):

    1) Zonen says the tickets to Brazil were one way only, but according to the LA Times it was a two-way ticket with a return day a week later – see several articles:

    “Poking holes in her [Janet Arvizo’s] claim of the Brazilian plot, Mesereau produced an itinerary showing that round-trip tickets had been purchased for just a one-week jaunt from Los Angeles to Sao Paulo.” http://articles.latimes.com/2005/apr/19/local/me-jackson19

    “Of her allegation that Jackson’s aides plotted to spirit the woman and her family to Brazil, the defense lawyer noted that the airline tickets for the journey were round-trip, with a return flight scheduled a week later.” http://articles.latimes.com/2005/apr/20/local/me-jackson20

    “First up for the Santa Barbara County district attorney’s office was Cynthia C. Montgomery, a travel agent who said a Jackson aide told her to book one-way tickets to Brazil for the family of the cancer survivor who alleges the singer molested him in 2003, when he was 13.
    The testimony seemed to support the prosecution’s contention that Jackson conspired to hold the family members against their will and hide them from the media after a British documentary raised questions about his relationship with the teenage boy.
    But within moments, Jackson lawyer Thomas A. Mesereau Jr. pointed out that Montgomery is being investigated by the FBI for apparently making a secret videotape of Jackson on a chartered flight.
    Montgomery conceded that she agreed to testify only after the prosecution granted her immunity, meaning nothing she said in court could be used against her.
    “If you did not receive a grant of immunity, you wouldn’t testify, correct?” Mesereau asked.
    “Um, per my lawyer’s instructions,” Montgomery said.
    Montgomery acknowledged that she and Jackson were suing each other over a November 2003 flight from Las Vegas to Santa Barbara, where he surrendered to sheriff’s deputies.
    http://articles.latimes.com/2005/apr/27/local/me-jackson27

    Pryor, the mother of a 6-year-old son with Tucker, said she and the comic got to know the woman and her three children after a benefit for the cancer-stricken boy, who eventually accused Jackson of molesting him at the singer’s Neverland ranch.
    They took the family under their wing, treating them to an outing at Knott’s Berry Farm and a trip to Oakland for a Raiders game, and inviting them to a relative’s wedding. Pryor said she became the mother’s confidante, acting as a sympathetic listener in countless phone conversations.
    At one point in her testimony, Pryor broke into tears, explaining, “It’s hard for me because I really love the kids a lot.”

    In February 2003, Pryor said the mother called her from the video shoot where she and her children lavishly praised Jackson as a warm, wise, humble, loving, father-like presence.
    The mother “seemed happy” at the video session, Pryor testified, saying the woman was eager to tell the world that the relationship between Jackson and her son “was nothing more than a beautiful friendship.”

    A few weeks later, Pryor said, the mother also seemed happy over plans for the trip to Brazil. She said that she, Jackson and their respective children would be attending Carnival, the Brazilian holiday celebration, and asked Pryor if she would like to come along.
    About a month later, though, the mother changed her mind, citing her children’s extended absence from school and uncertainty over just where the family would stay in Brazil, Pryor testified.

    Asked by defense attorney Thomas A. Mesereau whether the mother ever told her that “Michael Jackson was in a conspiracy to commit crimes against her family,” she replied swiftly.
    “Absolutely not,” Pryor said.
    http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/20/local/me-jackson20

    2) Zonen says that “Michael moved the entire family out of their studio apartment in east LA. They put all of their belongings into a storage facility where they actually didn’t know where it was. She didn’t know where any of her possessions were. Any of her property, her clothing, her furniture, to the extent that she had it.”

    And the article below says that it was Janet Arvizo who asked her belongings to be removed: http://www.jacksonaction.com/index.php?page=search.php&id=4683&search=

    Excerpt from the article Geragos: ‘He was a ripe target’ May 14, 2005 12:00 AM

    Michael Jackson’s former criminal lawyer, Mark Geragos, [later replaced by Thomas Mesereau] testified Friday that he had attempted to protect the entertainer from a predatory family — not facilitate what the prosecution alleges was a conspiracy.
    Mr. Geragos said he met the mother at Neverland Valley Ranch on Feb. 7, 2003, the day after a British documentary aired and created a public relations firestorm — including cries for social service and criminal investigations of the entertainer.
    Mr. Geragos said he was hired to determine whether any investigations of Mr. Jackson had commenced.

    While at Neverland, he heard the boy had been instructed to refer to Mr. Jackson as “Daddy.” “It gave me reason to pause,” Mr. Geragos testified. “In response to that, I decided to run a database search . . . I was concerned at that point, given the situation, that someone might use the situation to manipulate my client. It was not unknown to me that my client was a frequent target of litigation. . . . He was a ripe target.”

    He said he became gravely concerned when his search unearthed a lawsuit the mother filed against J.C. Penney Co. She received a $150,000 settlement. Mr. Geragos testified that he instructed private investigator Bradley Miller to get a tape-recorded statement from the family and to surveil them in case they tried to sell their story to tabloids or file suit against the entertainer.

    Senior Deputy District Attorney Ron Zonen’s cross-examination of Mr. Geragos was so aggressive that Judge Rodney Melville called for a timeout.

    Prosecutors allege that Jackson associates moved the family out of their East Los Angeles apartment and put their belongings in storage because they were preparing to whisk them to Brazil. But Mr. Geragos testified that the mother asked his private investigator to help her store the items because she was moving in with her boyfriend. He said at that time he knew nothing about the planned Brazil trip.

    On cross-examination, Mr. Zonen asked Mr. Geragos whether he had seen the documentary that contains “an admission to sleeping with boys.”
    “What do you mean, sleeping with boys?” Mr. Geragos asked.
    “That he sleeps with boys,” Mr. Zonen said.
    “You mean that boys stay in his room?” Mr. Geragos asked.
    “I mean that he sleeps with boys,” Mr. Zonen said.
    “Are you saying it’s sexual?” Mr. Geragos asked.
    The heated exchange continued until the judge told Mr. Zonen to take a timeout. When questioning resumed, the prosecutor asked whether Mr. Geragos advised his client not to sleep with boys.
    Mr. Geragos responded he did not: “I saw someone who was childlike in his love for kids. I saw nothing criminal. Nothing nefarious.”

    When asked what Mr. Jackson told him later about it, Mr. Geragos said, “He has consistently said he didn’t do anything — nothing untoward, nothing sexual and if someone spends the night in his room, it was just an act of unconditional love.
    “The problem, Mr. Zonen, is when people say ‘sleeping with someone in his room’ and then there’s this jump to it being something awful and really, really bad.”
    Mr. Geragos is scheduled to return to the stand on May 20.

    3) Zonen describes the security system on Michael’s inside rooms as a very complex system – “locked door, a combination door, alarm system and then up the stairs into the bedroom”, the mere enumeration of which implies something sinister.

    This is what Christopher Culkin, father of Macauley (who is an awful disciplinarian and a no friend to Michael though he doesn’t speak badly of him) says about the need for the alarm system and what it was like – among other things:

    “…folks who would gladly pay for a helicopter ride who’s tour included as its centerpiece the buzzing of Michael’s home. To Michael the Scardey-Cat they all represented the specter of hooded terrorists, dressed as perfect ninjas, skidding down ropes onto the property, the better to commit “The Kidnapping of the Century”; and even though none of this ever did occur, there were other times when no less benign incidents would only go to feed this fear.

    Take the morning when Michael arose and walked into his private garden, there to find a fan crouched in the bushes; a fan “fanatical” enough to enter the property and scale the wall and spend the night there (Can anyone yet remember the just who and the just where of John Lennon’s murder?!).

    That Michael would respond to such as this by actually outfitting his bedroom with a relatively conspicuous store-bought beam alarm system (one that the entire cleaning staff knew existed and that could be simply stepped over), as well as with a so-called “secret room” (really a closet) to which he could run in times of such emergency should not surprise anyone; indeed, these are things that under like circumstances most any of us would do.

    But when viewed through the lens of p-lia, the existence of these could only have a far more sinister purpose. And that was Michael’s problem in a nutshell, and there was little that Michael could thereafter ever do about it. It was the bell that couldn’t be un-rung. It was the genie who wouldn’t return to the bottle. It was the negative that can never be disproved. And it was a problem exacerbated by the fact that Michael couldn’t help (as few of us can) but be himself; his prim and prissy self. Unable to speak words like “sexually molest”, he could only respond in his ever effeminate way by saying, “I would never hurt a child”, which only made him sound more than anything else like a charter member of your local man-boy association. It was a perfectly impossible situation for him.

    4) A couple of other things about the habits and character of the boy who is now of such an impeccable behavior and is so terribly “religious”:

    A 16-year-old cousin of Jackson also testified Tuesday, saying she once saw the accuser and his younger brother snatch two bottles of wine and a wineglass from the kitchen of the singer’s Neverland ranch at 1 a.m. Simone Jackson was the third witness in two days to suggest that the brothers, then 12 and 13, were big drinkers who swilled wine without the pop star’s permission or knowledge.
    http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/18/local/me-jackson18

    Former Neverland guard Shane Meridith said he caught the accuser and his brother “laughing and giggling” over a half-empty bottle of wine in the ranch’s ordinarily locked wine cellar. Jackson was not on the property at the time, he said.
    And Angel Vivanco, a chef’s assistant, said the accuser’s brother, who was 12 at the time, threatened him in order to get a liquor-laced milkshake.
    “He said if I didn’t do it, he’d tell Michael Jackson and I’d get fired,” Vivanco testified.
    http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/17/local/me-jackson17

    Under cross-examination by lead defense lawyer Thomas Mesereau, Ms. Bell [a flight attendant] described what she saw on the chartered flight from Miami to Santa Barbara in February 2003.

    She told jurors that the boy was rude and out of controland characterized Mr. Jackson as a quiet, gentle man.

    “(The boy) was unusually rude, discourteous,” Ms. Bell testified. “I remember him talking about how, ‘I got this watch from Michael and it’s real expensive.’ . . . He was obnoxious. “When I served him food, he said ‘This isn’t warm. This isn’t the way it’s supposed to be.’ It was embarrassing to have him on board, actually.”

    She then described Mr. Jackson as “soft-spoken.”

    “Is there anything peculiar about the means or method you serve Mr. Jackson alcohol?” Senior Deputy District Attorney Gordon Auchincloss asked Cynthia Bell, who worked on a jet chartered by the pop star.
    “Mr. Jackson is a very private drinker,” Ms. Bell responded.

    “I initiated serving him wine in a Diet Coke can. . . . I serve other clients that way.”
    “Whose idea was this?” Mr. Auchincloss asked.
    “It was mine,” she said.

    Mr. Auchincloss continued: “Did Mr. Jackson ever tell you to serve him wine in a Diet Coke can?”
    “No, he did not,” she said.
    “Did you ever see him share his can of wine with anyone else?” the prosecutor asked.
    “No,” she replied.

    THE JACKSON TRIAL: Witness thwarts wine allegation: http://www.jacksonaction.com/index.php?page=search.php&id=4722&search=

    5) And one more thing – the assistant to Michael’s lawyer Mark Geragos, whose name is Bradley Miller has turned out to be a patient of psychiatrist Dr. Katz (the one to whom Larry Feldman sent Gavin for an interview and who eventually reported the case to the police):

    THE JACKSON CASE: Key Players
    By Scott Hadly and Dawn Hobbs

    August 25, 2004 12:00 AM

    Dr. Stan Katz, a Beverly Hills psychologist who interviewed the 13-year-old boy in this case. Dr. Katz also assisted in the 1993 case. He reported the allegations in the current one in June 2003 after a therapy session with the boy. In an odd twist, defense attorneys revealed that both the alleged victim and the private investigator who worked for Mr. Geragos, Bradley Miller, were patients of Dr. Katz.

    Bradley Miller is a Beverly Hills private investigator who worked for Mr. Geragos on the case. He reportedly was involved in a videotaped interview with the boy and his family after a British documentary aired which shows Mr. Jackson holding hands with the boy and stating that he shares his bed with children.

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  19. lcpledwards permalink
    November 8, 2010 12:31 am

    @ shelly
    Actually, I think the real reason he will never come forward is because he doesn’t want to snitch on his “friends” in the Santa Barbara Police Department! The fact that Zonen said that he met with him a month ago suggests that they still have a personal relationship with the family, which is to their advantage. It wouldn’t surprise me if they paid for them to move to Georgia and for them to attend college. That crap about Gavin having student loans was a smokescreen, in my opinoin.

    But I can’t prove any of that, though, so I can only go with my gut insticnts, which tell me that, for whatever the reason may be, Gavin, Jason Francia, and Jordie will NEVER come out and say they lied, unless they were on their deathbed, and even then they still might not do it!

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  20. shelly permalink
    November 8, 2010 12:15 am

    @lcpledwards

    “they want to be the first to report that he has come out and told the truth.”

    Yes but Gavin was not going to say that. It would mean that he perjured himself.

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  21. lcpledwards permalink
    November 7, 2010 11:32 pm

    @ Dialdancer
    He hasn’t enrolled in law school yet; Zonen said that he wants to enroll in law school after he graduates college. Right now he is attending Georgia State University, according to an ex-girlfriend who posted his photos in a forum. She mentioned that he transferred to GSU after attending Georgia Military Academy, which was verified by the fact that Gavin and Star’s name were listed on the Dean’s List.

    For more info, read #14 under my analysis, near the bottom of the post.

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  22. Dialdancer permalink
    November 7, 2010 10:53 pm

    One last comment. If Gavin has enrolled in Law School then we can forget ever getting him to admit wrongdoing. It would not go with the image. Although I have seen reports were his considering Law Enforcement.

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  23. Dialdancer permalink
    November 7, 2010 10:49 pm

    Hey I am just catching up.

    <<>>

    They seemed to have made several major blunders in handling this case. You would have thought for lawyers continuously being voted the A-List Attorney’s by their fellows they would have handled this better.

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  24. lcpledwards permalink
    November 7, 2010 10:47 pm

    @ shelly
    Everyone with two brain cells knows that Gavin was lying, and the reason that they are offering money is because they want to be the first to report that he has come out and told the truth. Just imagine having Gavin’s photo on the front of your magazine saying “Jacko accuser confesses he lied!” (Which is exactly how they would word it, unfortunately.) Sales would be through the roof!

    But he and his family won’t do interviews because they don’t want to admit they lied, or to try and lie and literally get cross-examined again by the interviewer. (Unless it’s Dimond or Orth who conducts the interview! LOL!)

    And they certainly don’t want to deal with backlash from MJ fans all over the world, especially now that they are in school, and Gavin is allegedly trying to enroll in law school.

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  25. Dialdancer permalink
    November 7, 2010 10:43 pm

    Melville Denys Media Access To Grand Jury Transpcipt:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/26/us/national-briefing-west-california-judge-keeps-transcripts-sealed.html?ref=michael_jackson

    Now The Spin On How The Grand Jury Transcipt Leak “Might Not” Be Illegal
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9803E6DE1538F936A25752C0A9639C8B63&pagewanted=all

    http://site2.mjeol.com/mjeol-bullet/sneddon-admits-he-knew-raid-was-illegal-%C2%96-bullet-178.html

    Judge Lifts Jokes Gag Order on Jay Leno
    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-106286801.html

    Does Memo Suggest DA Vendetta Against Jackson?
    Memo Raises Questions About Prosecutor’s Role in Case Against Michael Jackson
    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=116524&page=1/

    Jackson judge censors high court decisions (About Bail Reduction)
    http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/monterey…ws/10714687.htm

    Melville whining to Defense About Starting Trial On Time, But DA Holding Back Evidence
    (not one of my better source, but they seemed to have gotten it right)
    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1487962/20040527/jackson_michael.jhtml

    And it just went on and on. Melville was in possession of the facts and he was either too afraid on Sneddon or just as deep in as the rest.

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  26. shelly permalink
    November 7, 2010 10:18 pm

    @Teva

    I don’t think it’s so simple. Gavin lost the lawsuit, why a tabloid would have taken the risk to lost a defamation lawsuit against MJ, which would have cost millions of dollars, just for an interview?

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  27. Dialdancer permalink
    November 7, 2010 10:17 pm

    The reason the Garvizo/Feldman gang did not try for a civil suit after the trail is Feldman would have known that they could not win. By the time the trial was over the family’s credibility was shot. Sure there were Sneddon, Zonen, Dimond and Grace bemoaning how this boy did not get justice, but many in the Media had begun to report. It is too bad the Sneddon was allowed to get his hand in using leaked one sided stories to implant ideas before the trial started.

    I believe Gavin may be a fine young man now, but allowing Zonen to use his now character to paint a picture that this was who he was in 03-05 is wrong. To say look at this fine man how could he have told a lie about being molested? Just their continued attempt to rewrite history and the part they played.

    I wonder if anyone asked why there was no DNA testing done on Michael until…after the Grand Jury. Or is it there was no “formal request” for DNA. If the Cop shows are to be believed you may collect DNA if an item with a sample is found in a public place.

    I would have thought that a request for DNA was done during the 93 allegation investigation. There were at least two women whose background was in sexually assault that interviewed Jordan. This is SOP even if the parents were not cooperating. With MJ’s sample the Police would have been able to isolate his samples on any surface from any other. Would have been able to determine if any other DNA found on seized items were from a male or female and some other approximation which may have given an age range.

    That Judge Melville got to sit there act benign and witty is a crime. This man like his former DA Office were not fit to be holding their positions.

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  28. November 7, 2010 4:15 am

    @ lcpledwards

    Yea, I read that. It’s just more proof that all the Chandlers and Feldman were concerned about was money. Not “justice” for Jordan.

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  29. November 6, 2010 10:51 pm

    What struck me was not that he is now religious, or that he is dating a priest’s daughter, but that he has not taken any tabloid money. A corner stone of Michael’s defense was that the family were grifters and after money. I still don’t believe in the veracity of Gavin’s allegations, I just think the family was shamed into silence. It would be interesting to know if the reformed Gavin is on friendly terms with his mother, since we know for a fact that she has used her children in the past for con jobs. I must say the whole story of how the DA got the story from Dickerman, to Feldman, to Katz sounds incredulous.

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  30. lcpledwards permalink
    November 6, 2010 8:44 pm

    @ Ja
    Thanks for that article. I think the wanted the civil trial to come after either the end of the criminal trial, or the end of the statute of limitations, whichever ended first. I know in their motion they referenced a court case where the civil trial was delayed until after either the criminal proceedings ended, or the statute of limitations. In “All That Glitters” Evan Chandler and Larry Feldman laughed at the notion of having the civil trial delayed by 6 years because they took at as a sign of fear on MJ’s part, and the judge ruled that Jordie had a right to a speedy trial, so that is why he ruled that the civil trial should be held by March 21, 1994.

    BTW, did you see what Feldman said in the article? If he “doesn’t know” if there is going to be an indictment, then what does that say about his faith in Jordie’s story? LOL!

    Larry Feldman, attorney for the 13-year-old boy, told the court that it could delay the civil case if the criminal case went forward. “I don’t know if there is even going to be an indictment,” Feldman said. “It may be an open file for six years.”

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  31. November 6, 2010 6:42 pm

    @ lcpledwards

    MJ’s legal team wanted the civil trial to start after the criminal investigation had been completed. Not after the statute of limitations had expired. The investigation could have lasted another few weeks or months or years. They had no way of knowing when it would have ended.

    “Superior Court judge David M. Rothman denied Fields’ motion to delay the civil proceedings until the criminal investigation involving Jackson had been completed, and set March 21, 1994, as the trial start date.”
    http://www.variety.com/article/VR116092?refCatId=18

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  32. visitor permalink
    November 6, 2010 6:20 pm

    thanx for the information

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  33. lcpledwards permalink
    November 6, 2010 6:05 pm

    @ Visitor
    yes, MJ’s legal team requested that the civil trial be delayed until after the criminal statute of limitations had expired in 1999. That was probably a blunder, as they should have just requested to have it delayed until after the criminal trial, whenever it took place. But he had a good rationale for asking for it to be delayed until 1999, and there is legal precedent to back him up.

    Ironically, Dr. Murray is in the same position, as his attorneys are requesting that his civil trials be delayed until after his criminal trial so that he won’t incriminate himself.

    For more info on MJ’s settlements, please read the following post:

    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/09/20/analyzing-the-media’s-hypocrisy-in-reporting-on-michael-jackson’s-settlements-vs-the-settlements-of-other-celebrities-part-1/

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  34. lcpledwards permalink
    November 6, 2010 6:01 pm

    @ Teva
    The conspiracy charge and the 1108 evidence are two separate issues. Sneddon brought in the 1108 evidence to prejudice the jury into thinking MJ molested kids in 1993, with the hope that they would convict him on that alone, regardless of his innocence in 2003. In another week or two I will post the 2005 Harvard Law seminar with Mesereau and MSNBC Analyst Dan Abrahms, and Ambrahms talks about this in more detail.

    The conspiracy charge was added when MJ was indicted because Sneddon needed to find a way to justify why the Arvizos shot the rebuttal video, and why they spent so much time at Neverland. If there had been ANY truth to that charge, then Sneddon would have discovered it during his 5 month investigation, and it would have been one of the original charges.

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  35. Alison permalink
    November 6, 2010 5:12 pm

    the fingerprints tho, why does he bother even bringing them up except to cunningly give a false impression. cos he doesn’t say Michael’s prints were actually on them, just gavin’s and star’s, and he doesn’t say they were on the same page. and you couldn’t, i don’t think, establish they were made at the same time if they were on together. they know they were caught out on the fingerprints, he is just trying to pretend.

    as for being religious, i think that being very religious can also be a symptom of mental illness so thats no recommendation. also according to what you read, many serial killers are very religious. so again , its no recommendation. But most likely he is pretending so he can get in with the girl’s parents, they probably have money, and he can keep with their daughter. poor girl, better hope she can get out of it.

    and you’re right, why would gavin remain in contact with zonen and sneddon, something not right there. are they paying him for his silence? somethings going on.

    Rockforeveron, yes,of course, abuse survivors would definitely want to take on their abuser’s name!! NOT! very good observation.

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  36. pam permalink
    November 6, 2010 4:09 pm

    From popintervention:

    If Martin Bashir would have practiced responsible journalism from the beginning, the Michael Jackson molestation trial might never have even happened. Firstly, Bashir should never have interviewed Gavin Arvizo without his mother’s express, written permission. Secondly, his company never should have aired that footage, showing Arvizo’s face without express, written permission. Thirdly, Bashir never should have given his personal opinions any weight whatsoever in the documentary. His reporting caused several media sources to bombard DA Tom Sneddon’s office with claims of Michael Jackson’s alleged child molestation.

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  37. Olga permalink
    November 6, 2010 3:17 pm

    @visitor it was Howard Weitzman and Bret Fields who did that

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  38. Olga permalink
    November 6, 2010 3:00 pm

    Here is a video of Geraldo talking about trial after June 25th

    At around 7 minutes Jamie Masada lies are exposed in the video below. I used to have the original Fox video but I can’t find it right now but you can see it here

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  39. Deborah Ffrench permalink
    November 6, 2010 2:35 pm

    A wonderful analysis David, which I must say tallies completely with the sources I have been reading. Incredible isn’t it that Zonen and Feldman — and no doubt somewhere Sneddon, still have so much vested in perpetuating the credibility of their prosecution?

    At one time they must have known their case was shaky, which is why they threw 1993 at Michael in the trial, and we’re all aware of Sneddon’s reputation for ‘stacking.’ But I believe at some point along the way, Zonen, Sneddon and Feldman were able to deny, even to themselves. the enormous amount of ‘work’ they needed to do to make their case even vaguely stick.

    A loss of perspective? Avoidance of loss of face considering the global interest and huge cost of the trial and its pre-run-up? It hardly seems possible anyone could have a serious genuine belief in Jackson’s guilt — and Gavin’s innocence. But somehow these lawmen managed it.

    Sadly, I believe there is as much chance of any of these recanting as there is either accuser, which is why all of us documenting the evidence and putting it out there, must — and will continue.

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  40. November 6, 2010 1:22 pm

    It was my understanding that Sneddon threw in the conspiracy charge in order to get the 1108 evidence in the 2005 trial.

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  41. visitor permalink
    November 6, 2010 1:15 pm

    I have a question. I know that i have bothered you but i am new to this and i would like to know as mach as possible.

    Is it true that in the 93′ case Johnnie Cochran requested (i don’t know the legal term) that the criminal trial would precede the civil one? Is there a document or an article where this is mentioned?

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  42. Suzy permalink
    November 6, 2010 9:42 am

    I wonder why the prosecution still keeps such a close relationship with the Arvizos. Maybe because they fear if they don’t keep an eye on them they might turn around one day and come clean about the allegations? So they need to keep their conscience repressed (not that they have any, IMO, but they have to make sure) by enabling them and still telling them what great folks they are and how they did “the right thing”.

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  43. Suzy permalink
    November 6, 2010 9:34 am

    @ David

    A great article again, as always. Thank you!

    Larry Feldman looks at Gavin, who at this point is about 12 years old, almost 13 I believe, and sees in Gavin a very strong resemblance to the child from 1993. They’re the same age, roughly the same size, roughly the same coloring. You could look at pictures of the two of them, along with two other children who also had a very close intimate relationship with Michael Jackson years prior. You look at the photographs of all of them together, and at times it’s hard to distinguish one photograph from another. They all bear very much the same resemblance.

    What a bunch of prejudical BS!

    He’s a deeply religious young man, in a relationship with a young woman, for about 2 years, the daughter of a minister. He attends church on a regular basis.

    The religion card is as disgusting as the race card. I have seen people who claimed to be religious and I wouldn’t want to go anywhere near them. I have seen people who are not religious and are some of the most honest and moral people I know.

    If Gavin is really so fantastically religious now, maybe he should come clean about the false witnessing he did against MJ as it’s an offence against the ten commandments.

    “I spent time with him only a month ago. And he’s really doing remarkable well. He has never asked for or taken a penny from anybody about any of the activity of this case. Never.” & “But he has never taken a penny from anybody, and no intention of doing so. He’s accruing debt like college kids do today, but he’s doing just fine.”

    If Major Jay Jackson is still their step-father I can’t see how Gavin is “in debt” like college kids today. If I remember well from the trial the guy had a pretty good income.

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  44. lcpledwards permalink
    November 6, 2010 8:11 am

    @ Suzy
    I recall reading Dana’s site in the days and weeks after MJ’s death. What’s amazing is that she trashed MJ before he died, and you can read it in her previous posts, but after he died, she actually did the research and did a complete 180 degree turnaround!

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  45. Suzy permalink
    November 6, 2010 7:32 am

    @ rockforeveron

    Here is some information about Star (who is present as “David Arvizo” on Facebook): http://danasdirt.com/2009/07/11/mj-accusers-brother-sends-me-a-fb-message/

    As you can see they still repeat their lies and show no remorse. If you scroll down you can also see photos of Star there. I think it’s really him, he shows resamblance to the boy he was.

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  46. lcpledwards permalink
    November 6, 2010 4:29 am

    @ Pam
    Gavin did not “fool” Sneddon and Zonen! In fact, they enabled and encouraged the lies of the Arvizos! Go read Robert Sanger’s cross-examination of Sgt. Robel, and look how the investigators told Gavin how “brave” he was, and how he was “doing the right thing”.

    The best indication of how far Sneddon was willing to go was when he switched around the dates of the alleged molestation and added in the “conspiracy” charge, in order to circumvent the timing of the rebuttal video. Gavin first claimed that MJ molested him first, and then forced him to shoot the rebuttal video, and then it changed to MJ holding the family hostage at Neverland, forcing him to shoot the rebuttal video, and then molesting him!

    Also, in order to try to protect Gavin from being obliterated under cross-examination, he asked Judge Melville to allow Gavin to give his testimony in private, and NOT in front of MJ, his entire legal team, and the entire courtroom! But Melville rightfully denied that request because that rule is designed to help young kids (usually 10 years old or less) not have to face the traumatic experience of being cross-examined (which is awful for REAL victims), but Gavin was 15 during his testimony, and he had already testified in front of the grand jury and everyone else who was there with no problems whatsoever.

    And the only reason his testimony was so believable was because, as I explained in #11, he wasn’t cross-examined! So of course he was able to say anything that he wanted to without being challenged!

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  47. pam permalink
    November 6, 2010 4:06 am

    This grown man knows he was never molested by Michael Jackson, and the fact that he could lie and is STILL lying about something so horrible is really pathetic. If he was such a “wonderful” and “religious” person than he would step foward and clear michael’s name and legacy of his false and disgusting allegations. Gavin can fool Sneddon and Zonen, but ultimately, he cannot fool the wrafth of god. I’m a strong believer in karma, and I believe that this young man will definietly get what’s coming to him. He nor his family will ever find peace in this lifetime or the next..

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  48. November 6, 2010 3:27 am

    Also, Mike had numerous friends who he’d known since they were kids and he hadn’t supposedly gotten rid of like they claim – Emmanuel Lewis said Mike had always been a friend to him and his whole family, Corey Feldman only lost contact with Mike after the 9/11 thing, Macauley was always a friend to Mike, Mike and Frank Cascio and his family have always been close, Jimmy Safechuck reportedly had his wedding at Neverland sometime in the early 2000s, Evan Ross and Mike were working on music together before he died, Mike spent loads of time with his cousins and 3T in the last 10 years, Mike met Glenda Stein from the Glenda tapes supposedly through her son Damion and Mike stayed in contact with them up till 1992/3 ’till something the family did made him push them away and Damion was in his 20s then, Omer Bhatti was still so close to Mike that people wanted to believe he was his son, Mike was still friends with the Chopra’s and Gotham…

    The only people Mike “discarded” were because of things that they had done to him. Such as Feldman, the Steins etc.

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  49. November 6, 2010 3:14 am

    Pics:


    And great post as always, your research skills are amazing. Sad that fans are left doing the job that journalists and real biographers should be doing.

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  50. November 6, 2010 3:10 am

    I have some info on Gavin, posted from someone on a forum:

    well i was on the internet talking to one of my friends from mcintosh high school when i brought up MJ and she started to break down because she was gavin’s ex gf she told me how he went around bragging how he accused michael of molesting him and everyone thought he was soo cool he even slipped up and said the story was made up so the girl actually went around the school and told everybody when she caught him cheating on her but anyways gavin goes to this gym it was in peachtree city (it still is) but they moved to a new location he likes boxing and MMA (mixed martial arts) and trains at a gym called LA boxing. he used to go to georgia military college but he transferred to Georgia State he has to be pursuing a major in business he goes by anton jackson (jackson is his step father’s last name), david jackson, anton arvizo or gavin arvizo. his brother goes by starr jackson or starr arvizo
    here are his recently updated pics

    So funny that Rob forgets to mention that Gavin’s new surname is Jackson, I imagine many abuse survivors would relish taking on the last name of the person who abused them.

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