On TRUE and FAKE Michael Jackson’s friends
DATE: December 6, 2010
DEFENDANTS: The Cascio family in an interview with Oprah.
PROSECUTION: Savvy Michael Jackson “fans”.
Testimony of the Defendants:
Part 2 of the testimony:
CROSS-EXAMINATION by the Prosecution and Defense live from the fan courtroom:
So… they show a pic of the studio WITHOUT Michael actually in it… and their ONLY evidence is, “honestly, it’s Michael, you can hear it, no one can sing like him”.. Well, we already know that, that’s why the tracks are being questioned. Just look at their behaviour, it’s nervous and scared. I don’t believe them one bit, sorry. Money talks.
FAKE MUSIC & FAKE FAMILY, NO MORE TO SAY.
this doesn’t prove anything? :s. just another family trying to extort Michael in death.
and if you look at the family from right to left, see the man on the left (with glasses) doesn’t look very comfortable at all!
who would be comfortable in front of Oprah lol. The Cascios have never talked about MJ except during the trial when they were defending him on some kind of lawyers’ tv
they keep quiet about their friendship with mj but made millions off mj’s songs.
made millions? theres only 3 songs on the album that were made at their house and people are saying they fake and the album isnt even out yet so where you got millions from
Teddy Teddy Teddy..you know the truth..we know the truth..
Hes lying, look at his face!! hes fuckin lying, when he said “yep he recorded right there in my basment” look at his lying smiling face
3:57 (he recorded right there in my basement) his eyes glaze over slowly, just look closely at his eyes, for a split second his eyes show signs of him lying like he is thinking about somthing
(same comment as for the first part of the interview) So… they show a pic of the studio WITHOUT Michael actually in it… and their ONLY evidence is, “honestly, it’s Michael, you can hear it, no one can sing like him”.. Well, we already know that, that’s why the tracks are being questioned. Just look at their behaviour, it’s nervous and scared. I don’t believe them one bit, sorry. Money talks.
@greencookiemonsters totally agree. And now the delusional hoax believers will go crazy because Riley sai Michael LIVES he IS smiling… in heaven peeps. Also about none can to that scream, correct but it can be perfectly “copied and pasted” in any song. Almost forgetting, Epic Records doing a forensic a investigation to authenticate Michael’s vocal in those songs? Jesus! OF COURSE! who is the seller?? why in the hell they would say it’s a fraud? Get a life pees!
why wouldn’t Epic Records would push for a forensic investigation on Michael’s murder like they done on to authenticate his volcals on this album?
@cleide97 I think it’s weird Riley should say that no one can do a scream like Michael – they’ve copypasted all his ad libs in those songs, so it’s like he’s telling us it’s not really Michael. Yeah, those people all benefit from the sales of this album so of course they’re going to tell us it’s completely authentic.
I wonder how much money $ony spends in so many people, Oprah, Cascios, Teddy, Branca, and who knows who else… And it’s true, their behavior is weird, they are nervous lieing on TV.
They are making money from the Casio-produced songs so they have everything to gain from saying that the songs are authentic.
“It’s better to have some Michael rather than no Michael.” This is what they said. Tells all I need to know.
OMG, the hippo-crit! NOW she promotes Michael’s album? And how much did Sony pay her to get Eddie and Teddy to “dispel the rumours”? Yackkk!
@susiacik He’s lying. He can’t look her in the eye, he keeps looking at the floor. Shame on you, Teddy Riley. Selling out your “friend”!
Teddy copy/pasted MJ’s vocals here and there that doesn’t make it a Michael Jackson album!!! They are laying, low life SCUMBAGS!!!! I am disgusted.
I really could shoot this family..Fucking Lyers!
Teddy’s face is priceless, you can see from the plane he is lying. Cascio lies better. Teddy, WE life time mj fans know the truth, we dont care if you worked with MJ, bc we are the one who have listened his voice almost every day for more than 20 years, not you! And NO we dont hear the autenticity of MJ’s voice in those songs! and about the screams you are talking about, yes some of them belong to MJ because you put them there from the others old songs. Thnx for the other 7 100% real MJ songs
No Oprah you didn’t have to ask this boring stupid question again and again !! Michael was an innocent ! how mant times do peole have to tell you??? I believe she(oprah would like to hear a different answer but Oprah you won’t get one!) These people are traitors , they shouldn’t have come out with their stories , We know what Michael was like when he was alive , they didn’t say anything new regarding Mike, What we have here is MONEY TALK AGAIN AND AGAIN!! I wonder how much they got!!!
We the fans have always known about this “secret” family. During the 1993 allegations, Frank and Eddie travelled with him much to the amazement of the toxic media. Dominic told the press that he trusted Michael with his sons 100%. Frank even spoke out in Mike’s defence during the 2005 trial. Michael never forgot their loyalty and friendship and probably trusted them more than some members of his own family. So stop trashing people who were there for him during his darkest times. God bless them.
Lies irritate me.
Lies irritate me too. I was wrong, completely wrong when I said the Michael haters’ time was up – I definitely said it too soon. The haters have changed their colors, have painted themselves “fans” and are hissing at every corner at those who are willing to listen – it’s not him, it isn’t his voice, their behavior is suspicious, they are looking at the floor, no doubt it is fake, they are lying, money talks, we don’t believe them one bit….
AND I DON’T BELIEVE YOU ONE BIT, FAKE MICHAEL’S FANS.
Michael knew better who was a friend to him or who was not. We don’t need you to tell us who they are – the Cascios were always standing by Michael’s side at the worst time of his life, never sold their souls to the media to tell what was expected of them and never abandoned him until his last day on earth.
So how DARE you speak of them in such an outrageous manner now?
This family is telling us what Michael Jackson was really like – calling at their place in the middle of the night, freely wearing pajamas in their home, celebrating Christmases together, cleaning the house (the way he could), taking out garbage for the family, feeling there comfortable enough to fall asleep even in the basement studio, dancing and training there and even leaving his most precious with them – his children.
The family is telling us that Michael NEVER gave them a single chance to think he was someone they could not leave their small children with. Remember the glare the children gave to their father when he asked him if they ever saw anything bad – “Are you serious?”
And are you serious, guys, by finding fault with them for this and that now? Why do you shift all the attention to something you don’t like in the music – which was recorded not in the professional studio and which is nevertheless great and is clearly Michael’s judging by the lyrics in the first place?
Why not be just thankful to the family instead for the great friendship and support they offered to Michael? Isn’t it something for which we should all be bowing our heads to them? Especially if we remember that they always stood by Michael even at the expense of possible ridicule and gossip around their own children?
Isn’t their life-long friendship and staunch support for the man we respect, love and are trying to clear of all slander reason enough to believe them?
Cascios are the people Michael himself selected as friends and on whom he relied for many years of his life. So do we have any moral right to doubt anything these people are saying? Or isn’t vilifying them almost the same as vilifying Michael – because if you don’t believe his true friends WHOM ELSE can you believe then?
These “life-long” fans cited above?
Why are some people so terribly ready to believe those who allow themselves to pass their ignorant judgment on Cascios? What do we know about these “life-long fans” that makes us so gullible to their words? What valuable help did these guys render Michael which now gives their words more weight and priority over what the Cascios are saying? Independent of where the Cascios are looking during the interview – at the wall, ceiling or floor?
I agree – you have every right not to believe me (I did no good to Michael while he was alive) but not believing THE CASCIOS? If not the Cascios WHO ELSE CAN BE TRUSTED?
I’ll tell you what. Those who don’t believe Michael’s TRUE FRIENDS, don’t (and didn’t) believe HIM either.
So do you need any other proof to know WHO these sceptics really are?
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Update from our reader DIALDANCER on Dec. 8, 2010:
I call these Fake Fans Uncover Haters. Many don’t hate they are just doing a job. Helena you are right they are evolving. As they lurk and sometimes blend in with us they learn and adapt. A couple I thought were loving Fans turned out to be something else.
3 times within the past 2 weeks “Fans” have posted information on negative programs or articles without providing the originating source.
One was meant for us to attack Gale and then Oprah for a comment not made, but claimed to have been heard on Gale’s radio show. The other is a petition over an article which none have been able to find. The third was over an article on some trumped up webpage copied, paste and with seriously edited content. (Each was checked by an Advocate and each was found to be false) Only one group went to the supposed offending site before checking.
The intent is to distract and derail us by having us made unprovoked attacks on others. This will allow the Media & TV Persons and the dissidents to report we are out of control and not rational and therefore should under no circumstances be listened to. A bunch of overly emotion people making up stories to “excuse” our Idol.
Forget that each person of the MJ Community is just an extension of our own society; we will be held to a higher standard. Our evidence will always have to be more factual then the Media stories, our arguments more rational then theirs in the hope of getting listened to.
There are powerful forces at work here folks. There are many of us who are active Advocates worldwide, if we are having this problem needing to address this many attacks can you imagine what it must have been like for Michael before, during and after the trial?
As for real Fans battling among one another over who is right and who is wrong, well it is a matter of personal perception of Michael, which of his words we took most to heart. Once we had Michael and he did all the talking and now we don’t. I think the family & friends are just as torn, confused and sometime jealous of the other. None had Michael every moment and I doubt that any had his total confidence in all matters.
ROGER FRIEDMAN said the following about the Cascios in 2005:
Friday, January 14, 2005
By Roger Friedman
There was yet another leak from Santa Barbara District Attorney Tom Sneddon’s office in the Michael Jackson case yesterday. The testimony given by the boy is about Jackson serving wine to minors in his wine cellar.
I can tell you now, through my exclusive sources, that this account will be refuted if it makes it to the stand. That’s because Sneddon takes on Jackson’s most ardent supporters and surrogate family, the Cascios of Franklin Lakes, N.J.
I’ve told you about the Cascios before. Dominic Cascio was a banquet manager at the Palace Hotel in New York when he met Jackson some 17 years ago. He was the married father of three, eventually four.
Jackson immediately embraced the Cascios, and vice versa. Sources tell me he appreciated their close-knit, loving family. Over the years Jackson has spent a lot of time at their house and reciprocated by taking them on trips.
The kids, three boys and a girl, have literally grown up at Jackson’s Neverland Valley Ranch. They have had free access to all rooms in the house, including Jackson’s fabled bedroom and bed, without incident.
The eldest child, Frank, who is now 24 and uses the nom de plume Tyson, has worked for Jackson in various capacities. He is cited as one of the unnamed, unindicted co-conspirators in the current case, accused, unofficially, of holding the California boy’s family “hostage.”
My sources laughed yesterday when they heard the story of Michael serving wine to Frank’s 15-year-old sister, 12-year-old brother and the accuser and his brother.
Here’s the problem as it’s been laid out for me. The Cascios, who operate two family restaurants in northern New Jersey, are Italian-American and have always let their kids have a sip of wine here and there. If they are called to testify in the case, they will explain that it’s in their culture.
Curiously, even though Sneddon leaked this information yesterday, he has not subpoenaed any of the Cascios, including Frank Tyson. And the Cascios, I am told, are furious that he involved their minor children in a publicity scheme to promote the prosecution’s case.Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,144362,00.html:
And this is what ROGER FRIEDMAN said about the songs on October 10, 2010:
The Huffington PostOctober 10, 2010Even in death, Michael Jackson can’t catch a break.Sony and his estate are trying to put together an album of his unreleased materials. Their original plan was to get it out for Christmas and holiday sales. But they’re being thwarted at every turn.
A few months ago I was the first to report that Michael, unbeknownst to anyone, had recorded a bunch of songs in the summer of 2007.
This is what happened:
He’d turned up on the doorstep, literally, of his long time friends Dominic and Connie Cascio, in Franklin Lakes, New Jersey. With him were his three kids, a tutor, and some pets. They’d escaped from an estate in northern Virginia, where Michael had sought refuge after a short stint in Las Vegas. He had no place else to go.
He wound up staying with the Cascios from August until November. And during that time, with nothing else to do, he listened to the couple’s son, Eddie, record with a singer named Bobby Ewing. Eddie’s brother, Frank, had helped write and produce the Ewing tracks. They asked: Why not erase the vocals and have Michael sing over them? Michael agreed. When it was done, Eddie Cascio put away the tapes. No one ever discussed it again.
Meantime, I reported that there were fewer known unreleased Michael Jackson tracks than anyone realized. Many conversations with Michael’s long time engineer Bruce Swedien resulted in this fact: this would be no Jimi Hendrix situation. So when the Cascio tracks were revealed, everyone should have been jumping for joy.
But not so happy are Michael’s nephews, the three sons of Tito Jackson. The Jacksons have always been wary of the Cascios: after all, Michael liked the relatively normal Italian-American family from New Jersey more than his own blood relatives. Tito’s kids — known as 3T — had recorded with Uncle Michael early in their career, but not in recent years. When the news broke, the 3Ts weren’t happy. Why hadn’t Uncle Michael left them a legacy like this?
In the last few weeks Sony has had to call in forensic audiologists to prove that the voice on the Cascio tracks is that of Michael Jackson. (The conclusion: it is.)
The 3Ts, I am told, along with co-executor John McClain, have claimed it’s a Jacko impersonator. It’s not about money. It’s about ego, and pride. Sony wants to include five of the Cascio songs right away on the new album. They made an agreement this year with the Michael Jackson estate that could be worth $200 million. In the end, Sony will get what it wants. The estate will make millions. And Michael’s nephews, and the rest of his biological family, will have to accept reality.
Updated by Lynette Dec.8, 2010:
I think this is a perfect example of how personal the grieving process is to each person that feels a sense of loss. There are so many people involved in this grieving process and they will all grieve differently. Michael’s nephews are dealing with different aspects of the grieving process than his Mother, his children, his brothers and the Cascios; they all feel his loss differently. Grief is such a funny thing I think that the fans have to realize that even though Michael loved us he did not know us as individuals or we him, and we should respect the family and his closest friends to try to find their own way through their grief. We all feel his loss but it cannot compare to those that actually knew him. (for the full text see the comments)
Updated by VindicateMJ Dec. 8, 2010:
I absolutely agree. What was said by Roger Friedman about 3T may be reflecting only part of the problem – it is easy to judge somebody from the outside when it doesn’t affect you personally and when your emotions are not involved. The pain of the family is much deeper than any of us can imagine and this is why they take everything that’s going on with Michael’s legacy much closer to heart.
I think Taryll has every right to express his own opinion about the Cascio songs – Michael’s voice does sound slightly different in the Monster, for example. The reason for that we will probably never know – it may be the studio, or the song could only be half-finished so that some ‘effects’ had to be added to it – everything is probable here.
This is one of those situations when everyone can be right – both Cascios who had the draft of the song only and Taryll who says the end result is not genuine enough. However the lyrics of Monster prove to me that it was Michael who wrote the song and it is only the way it was ‘finished’ which may be disputed.
We will be extremely lucky if we hear Michael’s new songs polished by him to the point of perfection – we are no longer in a position to expect that now, alas. So Michael’s music legacy will undergo the same natural process as with all geniuses – first some finished pieces will be released, then half-finished will follow and then will come a time for fragments only each of which will be regarded as a precious gem. Look at how elated they are with new tiny fragments of Mozart and you’ll see what I mean.
It seems to me that fighting Michael’s songs – even half-finished ones – is like fighting the wind. It is not only useless but harmful too as it is a waste of time and energy which could be spent on Michael’s vindication instead. As to the Cascio songs I have no doubt that Michael did have a hand in them even in case they were drafts only and had to be ‘finished up’.
But the most essential thing is that all this music talk does NOT allow Michael’s fans to abuse and insult the people who proved themselves to be Michael’s true friends and who staunchly stood by him when he was going through the many years of lies, humiliation and trials.
TEDDY RILEY said on December 13, 2010:
Michael Jackson Producer: Controversial New Songs Underwent ‘More Processing’
By Zach Dionne Posted Dec 13th 2010 08:10AM
Just days before the first posthumous Michael Jackson album hits, controversy is still raging. A new UK Reuters interview with Teddy Riley, one of the “main producers” on ‘Michael,’ reveals that the vocal material culled for the album was far from finished.
“I had to do more processing to the voice, which is why people were asking about the authenticity,” Riley says. “We had to do what we had to do to make … his voice work with the actual music.”
The album is set for release Dec. 14. Of the batch of recordings used for ‘Michael,’ Riley, who worked with Jackson before his death, says MJ would “never consider it being a final vocal.”
“But because he’s not with us he cannot give us new vocals. What we did was utilize the Melodyne (technology) to get him in key,” Riley says. “With the Melodyne we actually move the stuff up, which is the reason why some of the vibrato sounds a little off or processed, over-processed. We truly apologize for that happening, but you are still hearing the true Michael Jackson.”
Riley worked on three of the ten songs on ‘Michael,’ including ‘Breaking News’ and the 50 Cent-featuring ‘Monster.’
Of the controversy and negative publicity, Riley targets the unhappy Jackson clan. “Some family members … didn’t totally get the last say so they kind of hate the project. So there you have it, a chain reaction, a domino effect that makes the credibility of ‘Michael’ go down.”
Indeed, Jackson’s brother Randy came out swinging on Twitter in mid-November, writing: “I became suspicious about the album, when I heard armed guards were involved since my brother’s passing, may he rest in peace. John McClain [executor of MJ’s estate along with John Branca] insisted that no family members were allowed at his studio where the project was being completed. My first thought was, what are they trying to hide?”
Riley insists no matter how the songs sound, they are Michael, and he will stand by the first album since the King of Pop’s death. “I am here to protect that, because I know it’s him, I know it’s great material, I know that it needs to be out,” Riley says. “I know that the legacy needs to continue because he’s such a great person, and there’s more to come.”
The producer says he would “definitely” be a part of future Jackson albums if offered the opportunity. A reported $250 million deal between Sony and the executors of MJ’s estate looks to put out 10 albums by 2017.
Teddy Riley had more to say on December 14, 2010:
Teddy Riley Takes Shots At Quincy Jones: “Look At His Age, He Can Barely Hear You Talk. How The H*ll Could He Hear Michael?”
» by Jason Weintraub December 14, 2010, 14:30pm (click on the link to read the full story):
As the new Michael Jackson album hits shelves today more than a year after his death, drama continues to erupt as Teddy Riley is the latest to speak on the controversy.
While Will.I.Am, Katherine Jackson and Quincy Jones have all said that the album should of never been released, Teddy Riley said he fought hard to release it.
In an interview with the UK Guardian, Riley said,
“I’m confident Michael would have wanted his message out there, and that’s what counts. I fought against his family big time. The only reason I fought against them all and fought against the fans was to make them believe that this is Michael Jackson’s vocals.”
Riley also made sure to speak on the comments of Quincy Jones’ comments about the questionable voice that may or may not be Michael on the album.
“Look at his age. He can barely hear you talk. How the hell could he hear Michael? Anybody who says [it is not Jackson on the album], I do have a comeback, because you’re not right. That’s just the bottom line.”
You can join the debate and see for yourself whether or not it is Michael on the album by picking it up in stores today.
Collaborators Say New Michael Jackson Album Honors Legacy
December 10, 2010 Associated Press
Michael Jackson spent the last two years of his life plotting his musical comeback. Besides a spectacular, record-breaking concert series planned for London, he was also tapping the hottest producers and biggest names for an album he hoped would help restore the luster to his spectacular yet troubled career.
“He wanted to give the world a gift. He didn’t want the world to depend on ‘Thriller,’ or ‘Bad’ or ‘Off the Wall,’” said Theron “Neff-U” Feemster, one of the last producers to work with Jackson. “He wanted to give them something new and fresh, and something they could hold and remember forever.”
Jackson didn’t live to see his dream come to fruition, but with help from Feemster, the singer’s estate and several other collaborators, another Jackson album has been crafted for his fans.
“Michael,” to be released Tuesday, contains 10 songs, most of which Jackson was working on when he died in June 2009 at age 50. The tracks were at different stages of completion, but producers like longtime Jackson collaborator Teddy Riley, Grammy-winner Tricky Stewart and rocker Lenny Kravitz worked over the last year to put the finishing touches on an album they believe Jackson would have been proud to call his own.
“I know he stood behind it, so I’m cool with what I did,” said Kravitz. “I was proud to put it out and knew that he’d be all over it, that he’d be really with it.”
Yet some are questioning whether “Michael” should be considered a true Jackson album since the King of Pop — a notoriously meticulous creator who labored over his creations until he thought they were as perfect as they could be — never put his stamp of approval on it.
Earlier this year, the Black Eyed Peas’ will.i.am, who had done some work with Jackson before he died, harshly rebuked the planned posthumous release in an interview with The Associated Press, saying: “Now that he is not part of the process, what are they doing? Why would you put a record out like that? Because he was a friend of mine, I just think that’s disrespectful.”
That’s not the only criticism of the project. When the single “Breaking News” was previewed for fans on michaeljackson.com, his three nephews publicly assailed the song, a condemnation of the media, and said the voice featured on the track wasn’t Jackson’s. This led Riley, former manager Frank Dileo and others to come out and vouch for the track’s authenticity.
“I don’t think that it’s fair for anyone to say it without any proof. You have no proof,” said Riley in a recent interview, adding that the producers “took it to the next level” and hired three forensic musicologists in defense of the album.
Sony Records, which is releasing “Michael,” also got the backing of other Jackson collaborators to prove that it is Jackson.
John Branca, who was Jackson’s lawyer for years and is co-executor of his estate, would not specifically address the veracity of Jackson’s vocals, saying the facts speak for themselves.
But as far as whether Jackson would have approved of the release of the songs, Branca, while calling Jackson a “perfectionist,” compared the upcoming album to that of last year’s “This Is It.” That film was based on rehearsals for Jackson’s sold-out comeback shows at London’s O2 arena that were never to be. With careful editing, a dazzling — if unfinished — portrait of Jackson emerged.
“If you remember, there was criticism about the movie ‘This Is It’ because it contained rehearsal footage,” said Branca. “Some said Michael would not have wanted to release it. But people loved it and it expanded people’s love for him.”
“Michael,” a mixture of soulful pop ballads and up-tempo, mechanical-sounding grooves that recall his “Dangerous” era, is a much more polished artistic project than “This Is It,” party due to the top names brought in by the estate to finish Jackson’s creative vision.
Stewart, who has worked with such top talent as Beyonce and Rihanna, never collaborated with Jackson but was asked to work on the ballad “Keep Your Head Up,” which Jackson co-wrote. Stewart said the process was a bit intimidating at first.
“It was a tremendous amount of pressure because Michael was one of the great record-makers in the history of music,” said Stewart. “Not only are you trying to make sure that you’re keeping the integrity of the record, but you’re also trying to love up the body of work.”
To that end, Stewart said he tread more lightly on Jackson’s song than he would have on his own material: “I moved a bit more delicately because I knew there was going to be an approval process … I felt like it was just a situation that I wanted to bring them back the product that they were anticipating.”
For Kravitz, finishing the song “I Can’t Make It Another Day,” which the two recorded in part while their children were milling about, was bittersweet without Jackson’s participation. But he’s confident in its quality: “I think it was him at a very strong point … he is singing his behind off.”
Feemster said he and Jackson would spend time listening to all the top hits on the radio before crafting their songs in the hope of making something contemporary but innovative. He said Jackson’s motto was “give them something familiar but also give them something that they never had before.”
Riley considers “Michael” a work that will stand favorably against classics like “Thriller” or “Off the Wall.”
“I would say that this is a masterpiece,” declared Riley. “It goes along with the piece of the puzzle.”
Yet Akon, who co-wrote the album’s first single, “Hold My Hand,” thinks the album should be considered more of an attempt to honor the memory of a legend than an example of his finest material.
“I wouldn’t compare this album to any of his albums. The albums that he made up ‘til now were legendary … Mike at his peak, at the height of his creativity,” said Akon.
“This is not like a finished product that you can compare anything to,” he added. “It’s more of an album that you can hold onto to commemorate and appreciate his legacy.”