Dr. Patrick Treacy about Michael Jackson: HE LIVED HIS FAITH
I’m sorry that I am always the last to learn the news. When I finally heard that Dr. Patrick Treacy, a cosmetic doctor and a humanitarian from Ireland, had spoken in support for his friend and patient Michael Jackson it was too late to mention the subject as everyone seemed to know everything about it.
However to me it is something new and staggering as firstly, it means that there are some honest people still left on this planet and secondly, Dr. Treacy is a highly respected physician and an honorable humanitarian whose word in support of Michael is very powerful.
The doctor asserts that Michael could never take propofol on his own as during the time he closely associated with Michael he would refuse to take medication even when necessary, so it was highly unlikely that within a two-year period Michael had gone from that stage to taking a dangerous drug and in the absence of a qualified anesthetist at that.
Before we listen to Dr. Patrick Treacy here is a couple of words on how he met Michael Jackson. This article also shows to us that Michael was close enough with the doctor to tell him of his deep fear that white managers would one day rip him off his wealth and leave him die a poor black man:
(Prudent Press Agency)— MICHAEL Jackson was given treatment by a top Ulster cosmetic surgeon while he was in Ireland three years ago.
Fermanagh man Dr Patrick Treacy (53) enjoyed a close relationship with the singer during check-ups to fix his face.
Dr Treacy, from Garrison, said: “We had to see him at the clinic around two or three in the morning.
“Often celebrities will want to come and be treated when there is nobody else around — that’s part of the norm.
“Michael would have gone for procedures on his face, to repair other work.”
Dr Treacy said he became pals with Jacko over a five-month period of treating him.
He added: “I must say that I found him to be a wonderful and honest person.
“I knew him at the level of staying in his house when he was in Ireland.
“He said to me, ‘Patrick, one thing I don’t want is to become another poor black man when I die, being ripped off by white managers’.
“He always had a fear of that and he mentioned many of his friends who would have died in the previous 20 to 30 years.”
Another source says that Dr. Patrick Treacy first met Michael after his Santa Maria trial when he was living in Ireland in 2006-2007 and then for some shorter time before his death in 2009:
- “Michael had approached Treacy hoping he would take him on as a patient while there, to help him manage his dermatological conditions. From there, a professional relationship, as well as a friendship, blossomed.”
I promised that we would listen to Dr. Treacy, however listening to him is turning into somewhat of a problem as another piece of astonishing news tells us that the interview Dr. Patrick did with Aphrodite Jones about Michael Jackson was banned in the US!
The documentary was made for the Discovery Channel two months ago and in addition to carrying a statement from the Discovery Communications LLC that “they didn’t share the views of Dr. Treacy” it became known a few days ago that the documentary had been withdrawn from the US TV broadcasts at the demand of Dr. Murray’s defense.
May I ask the Discovery Channel first and foremost why they don’t share the views of a highly respected physician who is telling the truth about Michael Jackson? And whose views do they share then? Those who conceived the crazy idea of reenacting Michael Jackson’s autopsy where a replica of his naked body was to be shown to the general public to meet the sick curiosity of some of their audience?
And why does the Discovery consider acceptable such an open public perversion but find unacceptable the truth about Michael Jackson told by an honorable doctor? Or are they simply afraid to give their venue to those who will say something positive about Jackson? Can they say who they are afraid of – we will be glad to look into the eyes of these people and exchange a couple of words with them…
Whatever is the case with their not liking Dr. Treacy’s views or even removing his interview with Aphrodite Jones from the TV screens all this is just another of innumerable proofs that the media is in an open state of war with one individual Michael Jackson. It would be laughable for them to claim now that they are following their proclaimed principles of journalistic integrity and objectivity as regards this man – their flat hatred for Michael has become so evident that they do not even bother to deny it as no one would believe them anyway.
What terrible things did Dr. Patrick Treacy say in that documentary that the Discovery hurried to warn everyone that they didn’t share his views? What was so criminal about his words that they made the authorities ban them on TV?
Well, if you compare Dr. Treacy’s words with the shameless and continuous trashing of Michael Jackson by the media on the eve of his 2005 trial the only thing you’ll find is that such a comparison is simply impossible as the ocean of slander told about him then is incomparable to a drop of truth ventured now – both in the essence and scope of what is being said.
Do you remember the book by Ray Chandler published on the eve of the trial? And how he made a round of all media outlets many times over though he could also be a potential witness in court? In fact a few days after the release of his book in September 2004 Michael’s defense did serve a subpoena on him but this didn’t prevent the dear old uncle of Jordan Chandler from rushing to TV again and lament there about the misfortune that befell him – the need to prove his lies to the jury and answer to the defense for the falsity of his book.
But what is most interesting is his case is that no one prevented him from expressing his views on the American TV then – though he was in exactly the same position as Dr. Patrick Treacy is today with the only exception that the doctor is actually telling the truth now and Ray Chandler was telling lies then.
It seems that these days even a small drop of truth about Jackson cannot find its way into the official media as we’ve learned from the fully silenced recent DCFS statement about Michael’s innocence and Dr. Treacy’s interview with Aphrodite Jones banned on TV. Oh my God, what a shame and frustration it is to find that the things you are tired of in your own land are no better in other places either…
Fortunately some media space is still open to us and pieces from Aphrodite Jones’ documentary have leaked into Youtube. We cannot be sure that this is the documentary discussed, but from the content of it, it seems that it is – here is part 1 of it:
AJ: Were you his only physician when he lived in Ireland?
PT: His only physician that I am aware of. And I think I’d certainly be aware of he had either another physician or even if he had drugs in his house. Because he certainly he had no sleeping problems that I knew.
AJ.: The defense theory in the Conrad Murray case is that Michael Jackson was a lost soul after the trial ordeal in Santa Maria.  He was lost, and was an insomniac who needed drugs for this. Did you see this as his physician when he lived in Ireland?
PT: I never prescribed him any drugs for insomnia and I was in his house on many occasions and I’ve never seen any drugs in his house.
AJ: Wait a minute… You never saw any vials of propofol? Any IV canisters?
PT: Absolutely not!
AJ: There is another theory from the defense  that Michael Jackson was very familiar with propofol, and had the ability to therefore inject himself with propofol. What is your reaction to that?
PT: Any time Michael would use propofol with us it was in the presence of an anesthetist and he always requested that.
AJ: Was there an opportunity for you or someone to administer propofol to him without an anesthetist and he insisted on having one?
PT: Absolutely. There was one time I had to go to Michael’s house and it was a few days before he met the Queen, at the opening of Casino Royal. Michael after one of his other procedures had an area – around his nose and I don’t want to go into too much detail because I certainly don’t want to break Michael’s confidentiality in any way – but he had hypersensitivity in this area and would require sedation and I couldn’t get an anesthetist to go to his house that night. I myself could have given Medasolam [ ] but he wouldn’t even do that. It would seem unusual to me that Michael would go off with somebody who certainly did not use the drug that I knew, that wasn’t an insomniac that I knew, to dying of the IV ICU type of drug. I think it would be highly unusual for a doctor to use the combination of a benzo and propofol together outside the environment of an intensive care unit or without having some qualification in the anesthesiology.
In the second part Aphrodite Jones asks slightly more pointed questions but Dr. Patrick Treacy is still very careful in his assessments as he is saving his possible testimony for the trial. However the Discovery Communications LLC does not seem to agree even to this totally sterile version of his words (sorry if I misunderstood some of them):
AJ: There is going to be a smear campaign against Michael Jackson by the defense of Conrad Murray.
PT: I think it is starting already. And that’s predictable. One of the reasons I am making this interview now in New York is the fact I think that Michael’s legacy is tainted and as someone that was a friend I feel very saddened to think that nobody really knew the Michael Jackson that I knew.
AJ: The fact that all kinds of evidence is going to be put forward to say that he was a ‘drug addict’. As a physician and his only attending physician when he lived in Ireland for all those months you did not get approached by Michael for any kind of narcotics.
PT: Absolutely not.
AJ: And somebody who knows and understands what the symptoms and signs would be of someone who is an addict did you see any of that in Michael Jackson?
PT: Absolutely not. I can only talk about the period I knew him in Ireland and certainly during that period he never asked me for any sort of controlled substances, he never had any in the house that I was aware of and he certainly never acted as if he had any – in my humble opinion, medical or otherwise.
AJ: What was your gut reaction when you realized that Michael Jackson was really gone?
PT: I think one of astonishment – that someone so young, just fifty years of age had passed away. I knew there had to be some reason for it.
AJ: Is it possible that he became a drug addict and a completely different person after he left Ireland?
PT: You know, of course that’s possible. I mean I could not see why it should happen, but it would be inappropriate of me to not take into account every single aspect of it…
AJ: And the autopsy report says that Michael Jackson was basically fine – all the way around, other than something to do with his lungs and had to do with his bronchial condition. This is a person who was dancing, moving, singing. He had a dancer’s body, he was limber, he from all record and all accounts was a healthy man.
PT: Yes, by the autopsy report you tend to conclude (?) that and certainly during the period I knew Michael he was in good physical health, so for a fifty-year old to die out of the blue would always have to be that something that would have happened. The fact that he was killed by a drug in a way made sense to me, I knew he was healthy enough not to die of a heart attack out of the blue.
AJ: The inconsistency of …. the idea that there are a number of minutes that passed between the time when Michael Jackson was observed ‘not breathing’, according to Conrad Murray’s own mouth, to the time when the paramedics were actually called. There is a lot to explain that elapse there.
AJ: What does that tell you of the standard of care? What was this doctor really required to do if he was practicing medicine the way we expect a doctor to practice medicine?
PT: I suppose we do not fully know the circumstances surrounding this and they will probably come out in the court.
AJ: The guard who appeared first on the scene in Michael’s bedroom described Conrad Murray as performing CPR with one hand. Is that even logical?
PT: Again I wasn’t there when sort of Dr. Murray was in the room trying to perform CPR but normally he would need two hands to do it. And we know from the autopsy report that at some stage someone did do proper CPR as he had rib fractures. 
It would seem to be a little unusual for a cardiologist to perform cardiopulmonary resuscitation in that manner. So I am sure that we should prepare ourselves for rocky waters ahead. He is going to be Wacko Jacko the drug freak and you know there is a lot of people that is going to believe that.
So it was this innocent program which is not even scratching the surface of the Michael Jackson murder case which was banned from airing – on the pretext of a gag order some four months before the trial? I wonder if the gag order is for the witnesses for the prosecution only? And whether Conrad Murray’s well-paid defense will continue spreading all sort of dirty innuendos under the cover of it?
The facts discussed by Aphrodite Jones and Dr. Patrick Treacy are actually well-known to everyone from the preliminary hearings (so why they would want to keep the doctor silent I really don’t know).
And the truth both of them are discussing is a far cry from the torrent of wild and unsubstantiated lies poured on the public prior to the 2005 trial which were allowed to be recited again and again and in a most confident way as if they were truth in their ultimate form!
The article announcing the ban of Dr. Treacy’s interview clearly points to his above interveiw with Aphrodite Jones as the overall content and specific wording in both of them are practically the same:
May 08, 2011, 08:32:11 PM
From the “Sun”, by Jason Johnson:
Explosive claims by a top Irish surgeon about the mystery death of Michael Jackson have been banned from US TV.
Defense lawyers had the footage pulled as they fight manslaughter charges against the King of Pop’s LA doctor Conrad Murray.
The trial’s start date has also been put back by four months as they seek out new witnesses.
Fermanagh-born cosmetic surgeon Patrick Treacy was Jackson’s only doctor when he lived in Ireland in 2006 and 2007, and became friends with the superstar. He also treated him shortly before his death in 2009.
He claims the singer would never have self-administered powerful sedative propofol–which was found to have caused his death.
Dr. Treacy, director of Dublin’s Ailesbury Clinic, is on the list of potential witnesses for the trial of US-based Dr. Murray for involuntary manslaughter.
Prosecutors claim Murray, 57, gave Jackson the lethal dose of propofol and then attempted to cover it up. Murray’s lawyers say he’s not guilty and Jackson gave the drug to himself.
But Dr. Treacy, 54, rubbished this explanation in a now-banned TV show recorded two months ago for the Discovery Channel.
In it the plastic surgeon, who has been interviewed by US detectives about the cases says, “Any time Michael used propofol with us it was always in the presence of an anesthetist and he always requested that.”
“There was one time I had to go (to) Michael’s house a few days before he was going to meet the Queen.”
“After one of his procedures he had hyper-sensitivity in this area around his nose and would require sedation, I couldn’t get an anesthetist that night.”
Dr. Treacy offered an alternative which he could have administered without an anesthetist, but the singer wouldn’t consider it.
The doctor said “There always had to be an anesthetist” adding that it “would seem unusual” for Jackson to die from administering heavy doses of propofol to himself.”
Source of the text and the original newspaper article are found here:
I really don’t know why Dr. Patrick’s words frightened the authorities so much that they banned his interview. In fact he was much more outspoken in his earlier TV interview preceding the one with Aphrodite Jones.
Unfortunately the host interrupted him too often though I would really very much like to hear what else Dr. Treacy has to say about AEG…. However we have to make do with what we have – so here it is with the little I managed to decipher in it (please correct me when you see a mistake):
Although every moment of this interview is precious let me take you direct to point 5:30 where Dr. Patrick Treacy says the following:
PT: Aphrodite Jones phoned me from New York yesterday. She wanted me to appear in a show in New York recently. She is totally convinced that it was a total set up. I mean what they wanted to do was hound him to death, crucify him, follow him into jail… (interrupted)
Host: What’s happened in the end?
PT: With Michael? Well, I suppose the theory at the moment which is probably a truthful one is that AEG, the company involved, may have pushed his doctor to the extent that because he was wasn’t turning up (?) for the performances enough they wanted to get him technically to cure his insomnia which Michael had to an extent – and of course a lot of drugs were given to him – and I know for a fact that Michael wouldn’t involve himself in any of the drugs mentioned without the presence of an anesthetist and certainly I was in Michael’s house two days before he was to … (interrupted)
Host: Do you think he injected himself without realizing what it was?
PT: I don’t think that he did it himself at all.
Host: So it was injected?
PT: Oh, absolutely. Michael was not the sort of person who would in any way .. (interrupted)
Host: So do you think he put his trust in somebody and he abused his trust? Or do you think he was actually asleep when he was injected?
PT: I think you’ve got to realize that Conrad Murray is a stalking horse here (so here it is!). You know, what is involved is a payout of insurance. AEG had to pay out $85 mln. for tickets sales alone and $25 for merchandise and in a lot of situations if it was proven that Michael was culpably responsible for his own death or died of natural causes it was quite possible that the payout would not happen. Let us not fool ourselves here – it is a hundred and fifty million loss and they’ve chosen a stalking horse of some doctor here… (interrupted).
Host: What’s your happiest moment of Michael Jackson?
What an annoying manner of stopping the interviewees when they come to the most interesting point these journalists have… But the episode Dr. Treacy recalled here is indeed very funny and speaks of Michael great sense of humor:
PT: There were many happy moments at the time. We have a big glass- room in the clinic and Michael used to fill his pockets with all sorts of most expensive cosmetic pharmaceuticals and I would catch him at the door – he wasn’t stealing – and I would say to him, okay, leave this back, this back and this … and then one day when I was in his house I had a nice jacket that my mother had got me and Blanket had fallen asleep in it on the sofa and I turned around “Where is my jacket?” and can’t figure out where it was and was looking for it everywhere. And then Michael came out sheepishly after taking it from the child and said: “Patrick, he is after his father…”
This is a cute little story and I don’t mind at all that Michael was filling his pockets with the best things for his skin – first, he really needed them and second, there was a naughty childlike streak about him which I find immensely attractive. Those predictable adults with indefinite gray colors to their character, sleek style and ‘proper’ behavior are a terrible bore and the older you get the bigger is the temptation to tease them a bit…
Getting back to what else Dr. Partick Treacy said in the above interview it seems that his idea that Contrad Murray is only just a stalking horse in Michael Jackson’s murder case is exactly the thing which is so terribly annoying to the defense team.
To a certain extent you can understand them – for the money someone is paying them they are doing their utmost to present Conrad Murray as the only player in the field and an innocent one at that – and here comes another physician (a highly credible one) who dares refute their self-injection theories, claims that there are more powerful men behind Conrad Murray and that the whole business was organised in order to strip Michael of his money again.
Yes, it is annoying to hear such allegations especially if there is a grain of truth to them…
Dr. Patrick Treacy repeats his words in a three-part talk on the blogtalkradio with Rev. Barbara Gross and Deborah Kunesh (of the Reflections on the dance blog). The conversation took place on September 25 last year but is more topical today than ever. To give you some idea of this marvelous talk I selected the main ideas of it contained in Dr. Patrick’s comments (those of them which I more or less understood – please inform me of the mistakes and compensate for the missing parts by listening to the talk yourselves).
Dr. Patrick Treacy on the blogtalkradio – part 1:
0:30 Michael was very spiritual and very gentle…
3:25 He did his charitable, humanitarian works behind the scenes. This was one of the reasons that people were sort of unaware of his humanitarian work or the depth of it.
At times Michael lived penniless, I know this. He would be giving away many-many millions to people he saw as less unfortunate. And certainly his image because of that will go on for years to come. People will find the truth about him and realize that so much injustice was done to him… and the treasure they had…
4:40 My great concern now is the trial that’s coming up… I get a feeling that we will be all subjected to a media barrage of corporate America trying to further distort his name. He’ll be made out some sort of a drug freak that self-injected himself and is culpably responsible and in some way involved in his own death.
5:20 There will be time when we have to defend his name. Out of 14 charges every one thrown out and not even a word spoken in the media the next day for Michael’s defense. This time round we’re going to see something similar happening. Because the public was to a certain extent conditioned to some level of brainwashing they have an appetite for listening to false [information].
6:15 I’ve already been offered close to 5 to 6 digit numbers to try and say bad things about him. Number one they don’t exist but someone would want to print or make up something just for the sake of selling the paper… It really astounds me in many ways. And that was not even only from your side of the Atlantic, it was on ours.
7:35 The sad fact is that all you had to be in his company 5 minutes to admit his total radiance of goodness. And you never really heard him give out on anybody else. Even though people were stealing from him moneywise. There was just no badness about him. Continually he was thinking about other people. We mentioned the kids in hospital that were burnt. He would ask me a couple of days later: “Are these children in pain now?” These things bothered him continually and it was genuine affection for other people and particularly children.
9:30 D. Kunesh: “It was twisted into something evil. People described God’s love in his heart and love emanating from him”.
P. Treacy: “I certainly experienced it on almost every occasion I met him. He almost worked on two different levels… There was an interaction over what you do but there was a continual thought process. People who reached a sort of spiritual enlightenment always have within themselves this continual wanting to help other people. It was fascinating to see it in Michael. I’ve had many experiences like that with him…
12:15 Of course he was crucified. If there was the tabloid media present on Earth during the period of Jesus Christ two thousand years ago, they probably had branded him a ped-le as well. From the point of view that Jesus liked children, and Michael very much was almost the same way. We all now are almost afraid as much as smile at children in case people would get the wrong impression. It’s just incredible how almost in one generation the whole relationship between children and adults changed as well.
Dr. Patrick Treacy on the blogtalkradio – part 2:
0:45 It seems to me that there are exclusion clauses of who is to pay out for the tickets – the tickets were for $85mln., the merchandise is $25mln., so that’s a lot of money, so someone somewhere has to make a decision as to who is culpably responsible, you know…
2:45 He also received propofol from us. But the thing is he would never do it in the absence of anesthetist and I have good evidence of that, let’s put it that way. So for someone who would not take propofol without an anesthetist being present  to suddenly turn into a self-injecting drug addict…?
7:55 I have to be careful of what I say as because if I am called as a witness I’ll [need to have] some sense of objectivity and credibility. I’ve been in a situation like that myself with Michael and he refused it and that’s quite important. And I have some other evidence… Let us say I have some graphic evidence as well.
10:00 In the 6 or 7 months Michael was with us I may have written him one or two prescriptions for a cold but none of them for ever for any drug or none of them for ever any medication that would be given for insomnia.
11:00 Unless he had a suitcase of medicines coming from someone else I’ve never seen anything in his house. I never wrote anything for him. And whenever I saw him he was in his full mentality and he was never sluggish.
12:00 He was very intelligent. He was a good guitarist and pianist. He could tell you about Ireland in the way no one would have expected it. He knew the history of the place surrounding where he lived back to 2 thousand years!
13:00 He was an avid reader – of medicine too. I have a nice library it the clinic and he often wanted to deprive me of some of my better texts. He was an avid reader and you wouldn’t expect an average patient to be looking into fish anatomy or surgery. You’ll be looking at the albatross or something and he would know the genesis and species. This is not the level of knowledge you’d expect a pop star has.
Dr. Patrick Treacy on the blogtalkradio – part 3:
0:00 I met a lot of different people in that sort of category but not the same level intellectually. Michael enjoyed a good conversation and sometimes fitted in his added knowledge of various subjects.
0:55 D. Kunesh “He was given so many gifts. He was gifted in almost every area”
P. Treacy: Absolutely. You take someone as Elvis. And I don’t mean to be disrespectful to Elvis’s memory – Elvis could sing but that was about it. Michael could sing, he could write music, he could dance, he would play the guitar and piano. He was multi-talented on many-many levels.
2:05 In some way Michael’s love of his fans got him into trouble to a certain extent. Because certainly that incident in the hotel in Berlin was nothing more than him wanting to share the joy with the fans.
3:05 The whole piece with Bashir was horrendous. It was such a level of betrayal. Michael would never discuss it with me per se – regarding Bashir. He certainly often mentioned Tom and in the fondest terms, and you could know it that it hurt so much that he didn’t want to discuss it.
4:35 Michael was coming to see me apparently only a few days before he died.
10:25 What a loss! There would be long-long time before the planet has anybody of that level of integrity, spirituality, creativity. He had them all in one package!
11:35 There was universality about him. He was a Christian and certainly maintained Christian beliefs in everything he did, analogous to other great religious people that lived on planet. You don’t necessarily have to draw too many conclusions there, but a lot of people would see him analogous to the love that Jesus had for people.
12:15 He lived his faith. There is no doubt about it.
MICHAEL LIVED HIS FAITH. THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
He didn’t go to church in his later years in life, he didn’t follow the religious rites to prove his faith to himself and to others – instead he just LIVED it. What a wonderful conclusion to this wonderful conversation and Michael’s not so wonderful life…
Thank you, Dr. Patrick Treacy and all Irish people for the warm and hearty welcome you gave to Michael Jackson. The years in Ireland were probably the best and quietest in Michael’s life – so that he revived his spirit there well enough to risk entering the entertainment business again and go into that damned deal with that AEG.
If he had stayed with you he would be alive now.
I’ve changed the title of this post as it is only some time later that I realized that everything said by Dr. Patrick Treacy about his friend testified to Michael’s faith in God as a way of life – and not a mere proclamation as it is common with many of those who call themselves ‘devout Christians’ but whose deeds go completely opposite to the faith they claim to possess.
Michael’s never-ending desire to help other people and the tears he shed for those who suffered in the other end of the world… his total inability to live without sharing his time, attention and money with those whom he considered less fortunate than himself… the immense amount of charity work resulting from this absolutely conscious choice in life… his total silence about all the good he did to other people…. his lack of revenge for his worst enemies and the absence of badness in him … no bad words about his foes, but just a feeling of being severely hurt by their deeds…. even his unique toughness and being able to survive in most unbearable circumstances…
YES, all this is a sign of him living his life in accordance with the will of the Heavens and not his own human will – a phenomenon we so rarely see but which helps tell a true faith from a fake one. It is a complete and voluntary desire to do what your heavenly Father expects you to do, the prevalence of his will over yours and living your life with the highest possible standards sets for yourself…
And some dare talk of Michael self-injecting himself? Don’t they know that the Heavens regard it as a form of murder, only against a person’s own body? It is incongrious even to imagine that Michael would ever conceive an idea like that as in his eyes it would be a crime against a human being.
No, Michael accepted life the way the Heavens drew it for him. The only thing he occasionally implored our heavenly Father about was relieving him of his suffering ….
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