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Michael Jackson and ‘THEY’ are poles apart

May 23, 2011

One of our readers has asked me to post her views on Michael Jackson’s detractors and a very specific kind of people who were playing a major role in Michael’s harassment. These people are pedophiles but I will call them ‘they’ in order not to put Michael’s pure name beside this despicable class.

Since I had a couple of things to add to the original text it turned it into a sort of a dialog between the two of us. The reader didn’t provide her full name and will go under the abbreviation “MOA”:

MOA: The Veritas project says, “Before the summer of 1993, Michael Jackson was sitting on top of the world of entertainment much like a king sits upon his throne”.

In fact, Michael Jackson’s march to the top began in the 1980s. After several years of glory with his brothers in the J5 era, Jackson decided to work alone. As we know, his solo carrier was even more glorious and it brought him not only fame but also a huge amount of money. Again, we remember how he bought the ATV catalog and became the owner of Kings like Elvis and the Beatles. Neverland was born and Michael was more and more involved with philanthropic and civil rights works.

It began as a fairy tale but turned into the ugliest nightmare the mankind had ever seen. Why? For a very simple reason: a Black icon with so much wealth, power, popularity and true humanitarian goals was a danger to some people. While observing him in the 80s, it was not difficult for these people to foresee that Jackson would reach many of his goals.

Actually, several of Michael Jackson’s opinions and plans were not well-received; his messages of peace, brotherhood, his concern for the planet and the environment but most of all his fight for children and youth were too scary.

He compared children to the face of God. He described them as innocent little puppies that look at us so deeply.

He encouraged all of us to do our duty towards youngsters because: “All the children are our children and our responsibility.

In Oxford, UK, he asked all parents to be more involved with their children’s life, not to let them down, to guide and help them because children are our future. Without them we are doomed and will extinguish:

  • “Friends, let me paint a picture for you. Here is a typical day in America – six youths under the age of 20 will commit suicide, 12 children under the age of 20 will die from firearms – remember this is a DAY, not a year – 399 kids will be arrested for drug abuse, 1,352 babies will be born to teen mothers. This is happening in one of the richest, most developed countries in the history of the world.
  • Yes, in my country there is an epidemic of violence that parallels no other industrialized nation. These are the ways young people in America express their hurt and their anger. But don’t think that there is not the same pain and anguish among their counterparts in the United Kingdom. Studies in this country show that every single hour, three teenagers in the UK inflict harm upon themselves, often by cutting or burning their bodies or taking an overdose. This is how they have chosen to cope with the pain of neglect and emotional agony.
  • In Britain, as many as 20% of families will only sit down and have dinner together once a year. Once a year! And what about the time-honoured tradition of reading your kid a bedtime story? Research from the 1980s showed that children who are read to, had far greater literacy and significantly outperformed their peers at school. And yet, less than 33% of British children ages two to eight have a regular bedtime story read to them. You may not think much of that until you take into account that 75% of their parents DID have that bedtime story when they were that age.”

VMJ: I would even say that from his very young age Michael Jackson was rather ‘old-fashioned’ in his views on children and family life. All he wanted was to promote traditional family values – which, frankly, is something totally unexpected of a pop idol and a young man who started getting to know life in night clubs with their striptease, drinking audience and lustful eyes.

If you read Michael’s speeches you will be amazed to learn that he was aiming at nothing less than a global entertainment revolution based on family-oriented values, love, brotherhood of people and great appreciation for children as a treasure parents are blessed with.

There were several projects he was about to launch all of which were family-theme ones – a unique family theme park in Poland, educational programs, animation and feature films – and all of these under the umbrella of global family entertainment.

He called his dreams a global multimedia explosion, but despite its revolutionary name it was actually a return to an innocent way of life, reestablishing links between different generations and promoting simple, pure and eternal values of family life:

  • “My earliest inspiration to be actively involved in all dimensions of the global multimedia explosion was derived from decades of concert tours throughout the world. During these travels, I heard the heartbeats of millions of fans who shared their hopes, their loves and their fears, and, most importantly, their desire for a better life. It was during this time that I began to appreciate that global family entertainment could bring peace, brotherhood and love to the world. 
  • Until recently, my hectic schedule and outstanding professional commitments left me little time to develop a specific strategy for a fully integrated entertainment company. All that began to change about eighteen months ago [middle of 1994], when I first met my friend and partner in the Kingdom Entertainment, HRH Prince Al-Walleed. In short order, it was clear we share the same goals and values, traditional family values. Through Kingdom Entertainment, the Prince and myself will combine human and financial resources to be successful in all phases of the global entertainment revolution. 
  • As an example, we intend to be active in theme parks, hotels, animation, feature films, interactive educational entertainment, and, of course, character licensing and merchandising. And, we are really looking forward to this incredible venture.”  [“Kingdom Entertainment” Speech – 1996]

MOA: He used to be the voice of the poor, the hungry, the sick and the abandoned children and youth who live in every corner of this world; “the voice of the voiceless” as he said it himself.

On June 23, 1992, at a press conference in London, MJ made an announcement regarding the establishment of the “Heal The World Foundation” (“HTWF”) and its mission:

  • Our children are the most beautiful, most sweet, most treasured of our creations. And yet, every minute at least 28 children die. Today our children are at risk of being killed by diseases and by the violence of war, guns, abuse and neglect.
  • Children have few rights and no one to speak for them. They have no voice in our world. God and nature has blessed me with a voice. Now I want to use it to help children speak for themselves. I have founded the “Heal The World Foundation” to be the voice of the voiceless: the children.
  • Please join with me and the children to help heal the world together. Parents, communities, governments, all people of the world, we must put our children first. Finally and most importantly, I want to tell the children of the world, you are all our children, each one of you is my child and I love you all. Thank you very much.” 

But not everyone was happy to hear these speeches. As we know, for some individuals children are just cheap labor force who work 10-12 hours a day for a miserable salary; some of them are sex slaves or child soldiers.

To bring Michael Jackson down, three different groups had to work together: the Los Angeles DA who was obsessed with him, the media and organized pedophilia. In fact, the latter group could have acted as the mastermind behind the other two and created and produced the most horrendous scenarios that were played by the so called “accusers”.

At least three persons were the links between these three groups: Victor Gutierrez, Diane Dimond and Martin Bashir. We know about Gutierrez and his collaboration with Dimond; and through her with the DA (also read this and this posts please).

In fact, organized pedophilia saw in Michael Jackson their fierce enemy as they probably guessed that their views on children and childhood were complete opposite to Michael Jackson’s. They would not stand if, from the top of the world, the singer shouted words like these:

She wrote that she is tired of stepdaddy using her
Saying that he’ll buy her things, while sexually abusing her
Just think that she’s all alone somewhere out on the street
How will this girl survive?
She ain’t got nothing to eat!

Now she’s on the move, she’s off to Hollywood
She says she wanna be a star, she heard the money’s good
She gets off from the train station, the man is waiting there
“I’ll show you where the money is, girl just let down your hair”
He’s taking her on the streets, of Sunset Boulevard
She’s selling her body hard, girl that will take you far
The police come ’round the corner, somebody there they told
He’s arresting this little girl, that’s only twelve years old!!

(From Do You Know Where Your Children Are? Jackson wrote the lyrics sometime before 1991)

Furthermore, Jackson was among those celebrities who were helping child protection organizations. In 1988, Sara O’Meara Sigholtz and Yvonne Fedderson who had launched Childhelp organization, established the Michael Jackson International Institute For Research on Child Abuse. Jackson was one of their ambassadors and supporters:

“Jackson donated tickets to shows in is 1989 Bad Tour to underprivileged children. The proceeds from one of his shows in Los Angeles were donated to Childhelp USA, the biggest charity-organization against child abuse. Childhelp of Southern California then established the “Michael Jackson International Institute for Research On Child Abuse”. 

http://www.looktothestars.org/charity/203-childhelp-usa 

http://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/113-michael-jackson#ixzz1IvZTFR6N

VMJ: The establishment of the Michael Jackson Institute for Research on Child Abuse is a total surprise to all of us. Due to the never-ending smear media campaign the general public has become so used to the distorted image of Michael Jackson that the news of him supporting the anti-child-abuse effort must be a bucket of cold water spilled on the heads of his worst detractors…

However if we come to think of it why are we so surprised? It is well-known that Jackson was indeed extremely concerned about the scope of violence and sexual abuse of children, and was among those who drew attention to the problem and called for immediate action against it:

  • “We are behaving like people without compassion and love for the most vulnerable section of society. The children of the universe are without a spokesperson, they are voiceless…We are all touched by the atrocities committed against children:sexual, physical abuse, child slave labor, educational neglect. We feel ashamed. Angry. Appalled. But there is no action…. No action”[Sun City, South Africa, July, 1996]

One might say that Jackson was praying to children’s innocence and was probably the only person in the world who called for a very rare right children should have. Driven by his own miserable childhood experience he called for adults to give their children the right to a childhood and enjoy its wonders without being forced into the grown-up world earlier than they should.

Stripping children of their childhood takes a heavy toll on the society in terms of hardening the little ones and exposing them to early crime and corruption, as well as ridding the world of innocent, creative and playful features inherent to children only:

  • “…My childhood was completely taken away from me. There was no Christmas, there were no birthdays, it was not a normal childhood, nor the normal pleasures of childhood – those were exchanged for hard work, struggle, and pain, and eventually material and professional success. But as an awful price, I cannot re-create that part of my life.
  • …when you grow up as I did, in front of one hundred million people since the age of five, you’re automatically different.
  • However, today, when I create my music, I feel like an instrument of nature. I wonder what delight nature must feel when we open our hearts and express our God-given talents. The sound [..] of approval rolls across the universe, and the whole world abounds in magic. Wonder fills our hearts, for what we have glimpsed, for an instant, the playfulness of life. 
  • And that’s why I love children and learn so much from being around them. I realize that many of our world’s problems today – from the inner city crime, to large scale wars and terrorism, and our overcrowded prisons – are a result of the fact that children have had their childhood stolen from them. The magic, the wonder, the mystery, and the innocence of a child’s heart, are the seeds of creativity that will heal the world. I really believe that…. Today, I would like to thank all the children of the world, including the sick and deprived. I am so sensitive to your pain”.”

[“Grammy Awards” Acceptance Speech – February 24, 1993]

 MOA: This is where the antagonism between Michael Jackson and the so-called ‘boy-lovers’ really comes in.  A NAMBLA member’s point of view on children and childhood is indeed totally antagonistic to Michael ideas. (Unfortunately you will find some quotes from organized pedophilia in this article. We do not wish to promote their ideas and therefore refuse to give direct links to their sources. Those who wish to see the original can find them themselves).

The paragraph below was first written in 1983 but repeated a decade later as a sort of the NAMBLA program:

“My first statement is that I want to dispel the image that a child is an ”innocent little puppy dog”. Children have plenty of knowledge about life, the universe and everything. But adults tend not to listen to their children. This ”innocent puppy” syndrome represses the child’s social, sexual, political, economical, and emotional desires. Children are not taken seriously and are expected to conform to a society in which they can’t question its validity. This has got to stop! A child is a sexual being. Therefore, children should have the right to explore any aspect of sexuality they desire to engage in. Why do parents, politicians, and police (the 3 p’s) feed guilt into children that are sexually active?

[‘The Unicorn (first column)’ by a 11-year-old faggot; Boys speak out on man/boy love; NAMBLA; fourth edition; July 1996; published before in NAMBLA Bulletin vol. 4 no. 10; December 1983]

VMJ: If someone is wondering why we know for sure that Michael Jackson had nothing to do with these people (in addition to all the innumerable facts of his complete innocence we’ve found here) the above statement from NAMBLA is the answer. It is a vivid demonstration how dramatically different and poles apart these people and MJ are.

On the surface the above text may seem to be similar to what Jackson was talking about – “give the voiceless a voice” and a right “to be heard and listened to” – but it is on the surface only. Oh my God, they have probably quoted Michael’s words in their proclamations!

But a closer looks shows that the motive of these people is totally opposite to that of Jackson’s – they declare that children are sexual beings and have the right to “explore” their sexuality, engage in sex and prematurely lose their childhood this way – while such an idea was not only alien to Michael Jackson but was totally abhorrent to him.

From the way he spoke about children it seems that it was easier for him to slit his wrists than mention the word “sexuality” in connection with a child. He could never utter the word “molestation” either and was known to paste with paper bits some too revealing pieces in pictures hanging on the walls of a friend’s house so that his children didn’t see them…

In short he cherished the child’s innocence and drew from that crystal-clean source inspiration for his music – same as he did from the wonders of mother nature. It was children’s innocence which literally helped him survive in the stifling world of greed, betrayal and dishonesty which showed itself at its worst when it came into contact with a rich but pure and trusting man like him.

Michael prayed to children’s innocence as if to God and he indeed said so in his taped conversations with Rabbi Shmuley which laid the basis for his new book about Jackson “Honoring the child spirit”, 2011 where Michael said:

  •  “Children are the quintessence of God”

What a marvelous way of saying it – children are the quintessence of God! If Michael felt that way, how can anyone dare say that his love of children may be even remotely close to NAMBLA’s views who claim that even a small child is a sexual being who should be given the right to explore sex?!

Can anyone seriously think that the religious-minded Michael, who said a prayer to God each time he marveled at a child, was able to abuse those who are the embodiment of His spirit? No way!

The only thing Michael’s deification of children helps us realize is the reason why he found it so difficult to discipline children and why it was almost impossible for him to refuse their every single request including staying beside him day and night.

MOA: The members of organized pedophilia admit that they started following Jackson as early as at the beginning of the 1980s. The sickness of their minds prompted them to adjust  everything they observed about Jackson to their own means and goals:

 “Those of us in tune with such things had out first suspicions early on, from the time he[ Michael Jackson] would show up at star-studded galas with the young Gary Coleman at his side.

Then there was that famous Pepsi commercial in which a very handsome 12-year-old blond boy enters Michael’s dressing room and begins putting on distinctive pieces of his wardrobe, imagining himself as Michael onstage. A moment later Michael arrives at the door, leans against it, and says suggestively (to me, at least), “Looking for me?” Others may not have seen the same thing in it, but for me it was merely icing on the cake”. 

[Barry Casper, IPCE newsletter, published in 2009 after Jackson’s death]

In 1987, Anton Glanzelius, the actor of the film My life as a dog, met Michael Jackson in Neverland for one day. NAMBLA posted the newspapers reports about it in their bulletin as a “proof” that they were right about Jackson being one of them:

 While Anton Glanzelius was in Los Angeles, an admirer who had seen the movie twice tracked him down and invited him to his home at 11 on a Friday night. ”Michael Jackson’s house was so big and beautiful,” Anton says, still stunned that the singer extended the invitation. ”And he was very friendly. I liked him very much, but he was very shy.”

[”Dog” Star Shines Brightly on U.S. Tour, by Rene Sanchez; Nambla Bulletin, vol. 8 n. 8; October 1987.]

VMJ: If boy lovers  had to use as ‘proof’ their own sexual fantasies wrongly attributed to Jackson, it means that they were really desperate for real facts that could have proved their crazy point of view.

If they are so keen on the issue of “Michael loving boys” I suggest they use the example of Michael taking into his arms – in the literal meaning of the word – a six-year old boy Dave Rothenberg with whom Michael sustained a life-long friendship until his dying day. This unfortunate six-year old child was doused with kerosene by his father, set on fire and was burned to 90 per cent of his body.

Despite numerous operations his mutilated body presents a painful sight even now, but if you look at the way Michael embraced this little cripple you’ll be awe-struck by his genuine tenderness and a smile of sincere happiness on his face which simply cannot be affected.

This kind of love cannot be affected…

This is what real love is –  love displayed by Michael at a relatively young age when most teenagers think of parties only, love which was difficult to expect from a celebrity of Michael’s scale and which wasn’t meant for a moment and for publicity only – no, it is real love which lasted for full 30 years…

Dave recalled Michael as a father figure for himself and a man who replaced the father he had never had:

  •  “He heard about me and contacted me. He wanted to meet me. I was about 7 years old at the time (Michael was about 16 then). He befriended me. He took me into his life. He opened up his arms to me and accepted me as a very good friend of his. And throughout the years he never let me go. Michael was like a father to me”.
  • “I turned around and there was Michael. At that moment we embraced and that embrace never ended throughout our whole entire friendship.”
  • “He was a great person. He never hurt a soul and I’m happy to have been his friend all these years. Michael offered a lot of emotional support for me. Michael was there for me whenever I needed to talk to him. He opened up Neverland to me as a means to get away. Metaphorically he was always like a father that I never had”.

Another boy Michael Jackson embraced as if he were his son was Ryan White – a boy ill with hemophilia who contracted AIDS during a blood transfusion in 1984. Michael befriended him and publicly embraced him though the general fear of the unknown disease was so great that people flattened themselves on the wall when Ryan was passing by. The boy was so heavily ostracized and persecuted by his schoolmates, their parents and residents of their town that the family had to move to another location.

In order to boost the boy’s spirits Michael beat his own (quite understandable) fear of the disease, and went together with him in a Jacuzzi disregarding some doctors’ advice at that!

Mind you that Michael didn’t have to do it – it wasn’t a publicity stunt or anything of the kind (he never mentioned it to anyone), and it was done solely for the benefit of one fatally ill boy and at a certain risk for his health as no one could guarantee at the time that such a thing was safe…

Dr. Klein’s was incredulous at the amount of care Michael displayed towards other people when he spoke to Larry King on July 11, 2009 (http://www.cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0907/11/lkl.01.html):

KING: “You wanted to tell me something about Michael and Ryan White, the young boy dying of AIDS.
KLEIN: That’s very important, yes. Michael wanted to bring Ryan White to Neverland. And his plastic surgeon, a brilliant surgeon, said you can’t bring him in the Jacuzzi because you may catch AIDS.

KING: You’re kidding?
KLEIN: No, he said that. Honestly, honest to God. So Michael called me, and I had given Michael $1 million for AIDS, and check, and he said, “Will I catch AIDS if I go in the Jacuzzi with Ryan White?” I said, no way. And he was very good friends with Ryan White until he died. And that’s what people don’t know.

KING: Did he go in the Jacuzzi with him?
KLEIN: Absolutely, because, you know what? He really cared. I want to tell you, this is a person who really cared about other people. He’s unlike anyone I ever met.”

Michael’s open friendship with Ryan White was one of the factors that helped to change public perception of the disease:

This bold step by Michael must have given Ryan a serious confidence boost when he needed it most, since an open display of fearlessness by a high profile person was essential in helping the public overcome the stigma of AIDS. Michael risked his own health by taking to a Jacuzzi with Ryan at a time of great uncertainty about the disease and high public anxiety. 

His actions went a long way towards changing collective attitudes of people towards the disease. Michael’s powerful show of solidarity with Ryan White and his family, his graciousness and compassion was a generous gift that brought Ryan some much deserved happiness in the face of great sorrow. It helped change the public’s perception and understanding of AIDS and brought about greater acceptance of those suffering with it” 

http://mysticalamaven.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/dr-arnie-klien-tells-larry-king-about-the-late-great-king-of-pop-michael-jacksons-comapassion-towards-ryan-white-on-70909-show/

I wonder if those guys from NAMBLA are capable of anything like that?

Victor Gutierrez who had somehow managed to attend a top secret NAMBLA conference (?) and heard its members praise Michael as a hope for the promotion of their “values” and their possible future public acceptance, upon attending the conference ‘suddenly’ started making rounds of Michael’s numerous child friends – in order to collect (or rather spread) pedophilic lies about the man.

Isn’t it surprising that Michael’s life-long friendship with Dave Rothenberg and Ryan White never interested Victor Gutierrez? Instead he focused on Michael and Jordan Chandler’s friendship and turned it into a “love story” described in the style and terms typical of a NAMBLA member only.

He alleged that his book of lies was based on Jordan’s diary while Jordan’s own uncle said that Jordan never kept any – so what else could be the source of Victor Gutierrez’s inspiration than his own personal experience?

MOA:

Author Victor Gutierrez, a journalist who said he’s been investigating Jackson’s attraction to boys for years, refused to name his source …The book claims to portray Jackson’s sex life, painting him not as a heartless predator but as a highly manipulative lover who seduced the boy into consensual sex. Its credibility, however, is unclear. (The Advocate 26 November 1996.)

Why did organized pedophilia regard Michael Jackson as their enemy? Why did they consistently spread false rumors and allegations about the man? Why did they want to ‘get’ him so badly?

Firstly, their primary goal was most probably to ruin Michael, break his spirit and make him more compliant with whatever they prepared for the man. They knew that by spreading rumors some money and fame-hungry people would buy their fabrications and would come forth. And they were right – Dimond, Feldman, Bashir, the Chandlers and Arvizos did come on board and helped them in this job.

Second, they wanted to recruit new members and expand their activities in hope of legalizing their views and achieving their goals using the fame and attraction of Michael Jackson. A notorious pedophile, Tom O’Carroll who served a sentence in prison for possessing child pornography the quantity of which exceeded 15 thousand copies (of really abused children!) admitted that his key attitude to Michael was that of expectation that he would help them in their “cause”:

I speak of “Michael”, not of “Jackson”, which itself says something about my feelings. I am old enough to have thrilled to Michael’s pre-teen Jackson Five numbers when they were first released. But I lost track as he grew up. …Then, when the scandal of his close friendships with boys broke upon the world in 1993, I started paying attention again, as so many did.

 I have most assuredly become an avid and largely sympathetic Jackson watcher, even when his behavior has cried out for criticism or even outright condemnation. …When I started my own long journey into “Jacksonology” back in 1993, I had one key thought in mind: Michael’s fame would mean that his deeds, real and alleged, would inevitably play a major part in the public understanding of paedophilia for a generation or more.

[Tom O’Carroll, “Michael Jackson: Gone too soon”, published in IPCE newsletter in 2009 after Jackson’s death]

In fact it is customary for organized pedophilia to try and hide behind innocent individuals who were suspected and persecuted for non-existent “crimes” and by means of this dirty trick buy themselves the status of a “victim”, the right to protest and ask for legalization. Here is one of their pioneers:

Unfortunately, victimologists have been able to tap into the hate and prejudice that is all too common in mankind, the idea that anyone who is different or belongs to a different group or has a different belief is an enemy, and must therefore be destroyed, or at the very minimum, denigrated and subjugated. This has been the fate of Gypsies, Jews, Blacks, and just about every immigrant ethnic group in its turn. This hate was long deployed against homosexuals, still surfaces in discussions of gay civil rights, and manifested itself in the brutal murder of Matthew Sheppard in Wyoming in 1998. There is very little – if any – credible evidence that a sexually expressed relationship between a boy and an older male is harmful so long as it is consensual.”

[ ‘Could they all have been wrong?’ by David L. Riegel; SafeHaven Foundation Press; Philadelphia; 2005]

And here is another one of them who has the cheek to pose himself as a victim, a member of a discriminated minority group and a civil rights activist:

 I AM SITTING IN JAIL! WHY? Could it be because there is a group of people who make their living through the prosecution of cases like this? Or could it be because of public pressures caused by the people being misinformed about the facts involved in a case like this? Or could it be because of religious fanaticism wherein vociferous bigots cry out because others do not believe the same as they do? Or could it be because of the ”mob psychology” syndrome that produces witch hunts such as this one? Or could it be, because of Civil Rights issues being resolved in the courts, certain authorities have fewer and fewer people to harass and they have to find someone to vent their feelings on … they can’t harass the Communists any more … they can’t harass the Blacks any more … they can’t harass the Gays any more … where do they turn? They turn to a minority group where they feel they have a change of success. Once they get a toe-hold there, they theorize that they can start up the ladder again … the Gays … the Blacks … the Communists … ISN’T THAT A PLEASANT THOUGHT? (Written the day after conviction, July 17, 1982, in Ulster County Jail, New York)

[‘Why?’ by Karl Ahlers; Crosstalk no. 1; 1988]

When gays and lesbians groups separated themselves from pedophilia groups, these people became too isolated and tried to redefine themselves. Their author Riegel came up with a  theory of “consensual sex with the minors especially boys “. Gutierrez has begun fabricating sick stories about Michael Jackson beginning with the late 80s and telling them up till now trying to adjust Jackson to Riegel’s model,  and Thomas O’Carroll applauded Michael because his fame would be their “salvation”.

This list will not be complete without mentioning Hakim Bey aka Peter Lamborn  Wilson, who is another opportunist pedophile hiding himself behind all kind of theories –  Sufism, anarchism, etc. This man is the mastermind of the ‘movement’ and has already published several books in different languages. Unfortunately not every publisher knows the true worth of this author (for details please go to http://www.naderlibrary.com/lit.pedophiliahakimbey.htm and http://libcom.org/library/leaving-out-ugly-part-hakim-bey)

We will make an interesting discovery if we go to the first of the quoted links. It is an article written by Robert P. Helms about Bey who says that this pedophilic author is actually recommended by many American media outlets:

“Hakim Bey has been recommended in many American media outlets, including “All Things Considered” in 2003, on National Public Radio. On 28 October 2004, Europe’s ARTE television network, on the show “Tracks,” broadcast an interview with Hakim Bey to tens of millions of viewers in both French and German. When I learned of the TV interview, I contacted ARTE and the small company that made the film. Both companies carefully acknowledged their error and regret. They intended no harm, but as a result of this sort of favorable exposure, Anarchist Pedophilia becomes more popular, its star philosopher more famous”.

Doesn’t the name of Europe’s ARTE ring a bell with you? It is the same company which made Peretti’s film about Michael Jackson and broadcast it twice (and will do it again). One cannot help noticing that ARTE has a certain weakness for Bey, Gutierrez and the like…

The second of the above links mentions Bey’s book called “Temporary Autonomous Zone” (TAZ):

“Bey’s best-known book Temporary Autonomous Zone (TAZ) describes spiritual zones in which anything goes, where the oppressive rules of the outside society need not interfere with what feels good to do. I realise that many honest people have read TAZ without taking any sleazy impression from it. I hope they’ll forgive me for pointing out that paedophiles say these same things to children.”

One cannot help wonder if the German media taz.de that did an interview with Victor Gutierrez, has called itself taz in honor of Bey? It was in that interview that Gutierrez was reckless enough to mention his attendance of a NAMBLA conference under the pretext of ”reporting for his paper” – which is an incredible lie as even FBI agents have trouble infiltrating this top secret organization, not to mention a mere stranger from the outside (look here for more details on that).

What does Bey aka Lamborn Wilson say about Michael Jackson? According to him it is enough to look at Jackson’s dance and hear his music to understand that he is “one of them”! The same idea is used by O’Carroll in the book he has written recently (**** title of the book deleted not to advertise it). He mentions crotch-grabbing, lavishly quotes Latoya Jackson (all of them quote Latoya Jackson – obviously they have their weakness for her!) and tells us how Michael had to suppress his real personality, wear a mask and ‘hide behind homosexuality’. O’Carroll adds that all Michael’s artistry, his dance moves, his poetry, his environmental works … were the result of his suppressed personality and sexuality!

They have tried to use this trick to ruin Jackson’s work too – even the Black & White song and video which has clear a social and political message turns in their sick minds into a suspicious film featuring a young boy!

VMJ: The above is an eye-opening insight into the world of real pedophilia. What I would like to add to it is a specific feature I noticed while reading some of their materials – the fact that these people have a love-hate relationship with Michael Jackson.

On the one hand they regard him as their “hero” and poster boy who could help them break the wall of public resistance (if he was one of them and was willing to do so), but on the other hand they are utterly disappointed with “lack of cooperation” on his part and the bloody struggle he waged for the two last decades of his life against their effort to pull him into their ranks – though he could take an easier option of quietly joining them and being more or less safe there.

This love-hate relationship explains the strange metamorphosis some of these boylovers undergo – they say that they used to be “Michael’s fans” but later on converted into his detractors. This change of attitude actually took place only recently when the long-awaited (by them) ‘breakthrough’ book by Thomas O’Carroll was flatly rejected by Michael’s supporters and it became clear that Michael’s fans – same as Michael Jackson himself – couldn’t be expected to help promote their cause.

This is when their mood suddenly changed. After a temporary flirt with Michael’s fans now they have turned against them and are going out of their way to try and prove with each new post, article or book that Michael’s fans are wrong and that Michael loved children the way those guys love them.  Following the steps of Diane Dimond, Tom Sneddon, the FBI and the media hordes who have already examined Michael inside out, they are once again going through tabloid archives and court documents examining every speck of dust and grasping at every straw which would give them a slight chance to throw Michael’s name into the nambla kind of people.

However, this new search is rather useless as their activist Tom O’Carroll has already gone through all tabloid sources (while on vacation in jail) and published an exhaustive 600-page detailed summary of the tabloid lies. There is not a single new fact in his book, and its only difference from earlier versions of lies  is that now they are being interpreted from a ‘favorable’ point of view and turning in the direction of being “all for love”.

Fortunately Carl Toms’ (or Thomas O’Carroll’s) opus didn’t reach the desired effect with Michael’s supporters as they flatly refused to accept this novel pedophile attitude towards a completely innocent man….

MOA: At least fans should be proud of themselves; several days before Carl Toms’ book would go to the publishers, the fans protested and informed the publishers of the true identity of its author. The pedophilic circles took the matter rather nervously:

In the meantime, shortly after the book was published, frenzied discussions began on Amazon and on internet forums about MJ. The book argued that MJ’s and his liaisons had a pedophilic character, which led to online protests by his fans and even his relatives. Those fans perceive Michael as a saint or an angel; sleeping with boys, but surely without any erotic feelings. The same fans campaign against ‘pedophiles’, some blogs even forbid that word and kick people with another view from their forum. 

Supposedly, the publisher will withdraw the book from publication, or will stop reprinting it. Prices rose sharply as a result of that announcement. 

In the course of these discussions, bloggers, thus the public, discovered and advertised the fact that ‘Carl Toms’ actually is a pen name for Tom O’Carroll. The bloggers portrayed him as a pervert, a distorted and dangerous man who, that is clear, isn’t it, never can tell any truth. 

Maybe someone will find a way to maintain the distribution of the book. The more the fans react, the more readers it will attract. The book is unique because of its unique approach. 

[the IPCE newsletters, June 2010]

VMJ: So “some blogs even forbid that word and kick people with another view from their forum”?  It seems to be about us! Are they following us the way they followed Michael and check every word of what we are saying?

If this is the case then please be noticed, guys, that vindicating Michael is equivalent to fighting pedophilia and supporting the right of children to have an innocent childhood free from sex, corruption and predators like you!

This must be stopped

P.S. I am thankful to MOA for starting this conversation. Fighting the ped-lia problem is a long and enduring road to take. However as the saying goes, “a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step”.

THIS MUST BE STOPPED.

IT IS OUR DUTY TO MICHAEL

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  1. August 19, 2011 5:55 pm

    Here is another article about the same. For some reason both don’t open any more on the Celebrity Justice page:

    Do Feldman Tapes Indicate Jackson Witch-Hunt?

    February 10, 2005
    A “Celebrity Justice” exclusive.

    Former child-star Corey Feldman was grilled by Santa Barbara sheriff Sgt. Deborah Linden about the actor’s close friendship with Michael Jackson. The interview occurred in 1993, as cops conducted an investigation into charges of child molestation brought against Jackson.

    On the tape, obtained exclusively by “CJ,” Corey repeatedly insists that their friendship was totally innocent, while the cops repeatedly express suspicion, for over an hour.

    “Is your belief in him and your love for him getting in the way of you telling us things?” Sgt. Linden is heard to say.

    Feldman replies: “Everything I’ve told you is true and there’s… I mean, nothing happened.”

    Linden also states, “I’m so concerned that if something happened you’re not going to tell us because it would be so hard to tell us…”

    “…No,” Feldman insists.

    Corey also tells Linden, “You don’t know how many times I have racked my brain and gone, ‘is there something I’m forgetting? Is there something that, you know, I’m thinking didn’t happen but it really did?’ If I could find something I would love to be able to tell you, but nothing happened.”

    We spoke with noted Beverly Hills defense attorney Jay Jaffe, who observed that, though Feldman certainly sounds believable on the tape, the investigators, “Want to hear what they want to hear, not what the witness wants to say.”

    Jaffe noted that, while the investigators on the tape did not break the law, Jackson’s defense team could use the cops’ repeated, aggressive questioning of the actor to bolster their claim that DA Tom Sneddon has long been on a witch-hunt against the singer.

    “I think the defense would try to show that the investigators on this case are, in fact, not objective in their fact-finding process,” Jaffe said. “What they have is an agenda and they’re looking for something against Michael Jackson, even in the face of a claim that nothing really existed.”

    Sgt Linden, who does most of the questioning on the tape, is reportedly the same investigator who wrote the 1993 affidavit to get court approval to photograph Michael Jackson’s private parts — an experience Jackson publicly decried, calling it, “a dehumanizing and humiliating examination by the Santa Barbara county sheriff’s department.”

    So the big question is will Jackson’s team try to use Corey’s 1993 interview in the current case? Now in his mid-30’s Feldman is now a family man with a wife and young child. His reps confirm he has been subpoenaed by authorities to testify in Jackson’s current molestation case. And there are reports that Corey may now say there were things in his relationship with Jackson that were inappropriate and wrong.

    Reports say Corey will not accuse Jackson of molestation. One anonymous source says Corey will claim Jackson showed him adult materials, including a Playboy magazine. Corey’s reps say he’s under the gag order and can’t comment. However, if the judge allows Feldman to take the stand, he may also allow in the 1993 interview.

    As Jaffe told us, “the defense could introduce the tape to impeach Corey Feldman. He said nothing ever happened and he said that repeatedly.

    Source: http://celebrityjustice.warnerbros.com/news/0502/10b.html

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  2. August 19, 2011 5:39 pm

    ”Corey [Feldman] says that the worst problem in Hollywood is a group of high-powered pedophiles who go after child actors. Corey, who has admitted to being molested, went on to say that he blames one particular child touching Hollywood mogul for the death of Corey Haim. According to Corey, That’s the biggest problem for children in this industry… it’s all done under the radar. It’s the big secret. There are so many people in this industry who have gotten away with it for so long that they feel they’re above the law. And that’s got to change, that’s got to stop.” http://dlisted.com/2011/08/12/corey-feldman-says-hollywoods-biggest-problem-pedos

    I can totally believe this. Isn’t it interesting how the media went after an innocent man for all those years, while they let the real p-s get away with it? Maybe setting up Michael was a deliberate distraction from the real p. Hollywood moguls….

    Suzy, I’ve somewhat lost your information about Corey Feldman’s new interview and happy to find it now. It becomes clearer with every new day that Hollywood and entertainment business in general is saturated with pedophiles. They must have had great fun while they were molesting children and all the attention was drawn to an innocent person instead of them. It is these people who were openly talking in Hollywood of Michael as a p-le, these people who were spreading lies about him!

    At the moment I am reading comments on the article you quoted and see that since Corey did not name the person who molested his friend Corey Haim when he was a child there are some guesses being made there. And of course some guy is suggesting Michael Jackson for the role! If anyone wants to leave a comment in refutation of those wild lies please go to (you need to register and for some reason it didn’t work with me): http://dlisted.com/2011/08/12/corey-feldman-says-hollywoods-biggest-problem-pedos?page=4

    Let me remind this and other haters that Corey Feldman said to the police that he had never, NEVER noticed anything bad in Michael’s behavior though on two occasions he and Michael slept in one room. On the contrary, he called him a gentleman for giving his bed to him and sleeping on a couch instead. Corey Feldman racked his brains for anything, just anything that could speak of any signs of p-lia in Michael’s behavior and he never found any. Astonishingly, he told police officers about his real abuser but they didn’t even pay attention to that. All they wanted was Michael Jackson, while real abusers could walk about free!

    No wonder Corey says that the whole Hollywood is saturated with it but no one cares.

    Here is the article where Corey defends Michael to the police. When young men who were really molested say they was nothing in Michael’s behavior to suggest ever the idea of it we can believe them as they are the ones who REALLY KNOW!

    Corey Feldman Defended Jackson in 1993 Police Interview

    February 9, 2005
    A Celebrity Justice exclusive.

    “CJ” has obtained an audio interview between actor Corey Feldman and Santa Barbara sheriffs. Recorded in December 1993, the interview includes Corey stating — not once but numerous times — that his friend Michael Jackson, whom he hung out with, didn’t do anything improper with him.

    “Nothing ever happened with Michael and me,” Corey is heard saying. “Believe me, If there was something that I’d been hiding for all these years, then I would want nothing more than to bring it out right now, to make sure that Michael got the help that he needed.”

    Feldman gained fame as a child star in the 1980s with “The Goonies” and “Stand By Me.” At the time of the interview he was 22 and was just wrapping up “National Lampoon’s Last Resort.” Sgt. Deborah Linden and Detective Russ Birchim, who were looking to bolster their molestation case against Jackson involving another boy, conducted the grilling.

    On the tape, the investigators are heard hammering in on Corey’s deep friendship with the superstar. “What concerns me about it is, if something did happen that you’re not telling us, is that you wouldn’t because of that,” one says, to which Feldman responds, “I can’t put myself in the position of thinking ‘Would I or wouldn’t I,’ because nothing happened!”

    Corey tells investigators that, as a young teen, he did two sleepovers with Jackson. Once, after a trip to Disneyland when Corey was about 14, he says they checked into a hotel near the amusement park. “There was one bed in the room and he asked for a cot to be brought up,” Feldman relates. “He got the cot up there and we talked for a little while until we got tired. But he insisted that I slept on the bed and he took the cot because he didn’t feel it was polite for him to take the bed.”

    Feldman repeatedly insists to the skeptical cops that nothing happened, not then and not the time he slept over at Jackson’s Encino home: “We stayed up all night and talked and did stuff and we prayed together before we went to sleep and he was wearing his pajamas. And I was wearing my pajamas!”

    Corey also relates how, “We took a Jacuzzi, we talked, nothing happened.”

    When investigators ask, “What were you guys wearing? Bathing suits?” Feldman replies, “Yeah, he had an extra pair of trunks that he threw me and he was wearing his bathing suit.”

    But Sgt. Linden doesn’t seem to buy Corey’s story, noting, “You looked a little funny when I asked you about the Jacuzzi.”

    Corey again insists, “He never did anything out of line. I mean, the closest he ever came to touching me was maybe slapping me on the leg once to talk about that I had lost weight.”

    Shockingly, Corey does claim he had been molested — but not by Jackson: “I myself was molested so I know what it’s like to go through those feelings, and believe me, the person who molested me, if this was him that did that to me, this would be a different story because I would be out there, up front, doing something immediately to have this man given what was due to him.”

    Even more shockingly, Feldman actually named his alleged abuser but the detectives seemed to express no interest investigating the man, seeming to only have eyes for Jackson.

    Source: http://celebrityjustice.warnerbros.com/news/0502/09a.html

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  3. Suzy permalink
    August 13, 2011 11:15 pm

    @ rockforeveron

    Reminds me of what happened to Corey as he was interrogated by the police in 1993. He named his real molester (who wasn’t Michael), but the police didn’t want to know anything about it. They just wanted him to say Michael molested him.

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  4. August 13, 2011 10:23 pm

    @Suzy

    Yes, I believe it too. I think the people in the industry know the score so that’s why some reacted the way they did to Michael, they could believe it because of their own experiences and some were likely afraid it might expose their own deviance if they spoke about it/him.

    I mean, I think it’s interesting that Aaron Carter stated that he was drinking and doing drugs at the age of 10 and 11 and yet nobody is interested in who was giving those to him. It wasn’t Michael, but unless it was him then nobody seems to care. They don’t think it was people in the industry giving it to him? That his parents and older brother didn’t know? That his agents and the other celebs around him didn’t know?

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  5. Suzy permalink
    August 13, 2011 8:27 am

    Corey Feldman in a new interview:

    ” Corey says that the worst problem in Hollywood is a group of high-powered pedophiles who go after child actors. Corey, who has admitted to being molested, went on to say that he blames one particular child touching Hollywood mogul for the death of Corey Haim.

    According to Corey, the Hollywood pedos were circling around him when he was about 14, but he didn’t realize what they really wanted until he was about 17. Corey said, “I can tell you that the number one problem in Hollywood was, and is, and always will be pedophilia. That’s the biggest problem for children in this industry… it’s all done under the radar. It’s the big secret. There are so many people in this industry who have gotten away with it for so long that they feel they’re above the law. And that’s got to change, that’s got to stop.”

    http://dlisted.com/2011/08/12/corey-feldman-says-hollywoods-biggest-problem-pedos

    I can totally believe this.

    Isn’t it interesting how the media went after an innocent man for all those years, while they let the real p-s get away with it? Maybe setting up Michael was a deliberate distraction from the real p. Hollywood moguls….

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  6. July 31, 2011 2:34 am

    It is hard to understand why these P. people attacked such a wonderful, kind, loving, caring man of music and dance, with that gorgeous smile and his big heart to change and better the world. I can only surmise it was jealousy and fear of his power and wealth, and threatening the status quo. Now THEY have killed him, so to speak. That includes Tom Sneddon. As Albert Einstein said: ‘Great spirits always encounter violent opposition from mediocre minds.’ Why is this so? What a stupid wicked waste. But there are millions out there who are carrying on in his name. Love and great legends never die.

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  7. FlyAway permalink
    July 6, 2011 6:52 am

    The blog was full of information. I learned some things I didn’t know. Those child molesters try to hide their actions; therefore, I was put off by your use of the term boyl*v*r. They are boy-abusers. Your website makes a valiant effort to block the word ped*ph*l* but boy-abusers aren’t offended by that word. Boy-abusers are more offended by that picture you posted. Their tactics are to betray the boy and his family’s trust in order to abuse children, not tie them up.

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  8. May 28, 2011 4:22 pm

    Oxman is not the smartest person on earth

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  9. Suzy permalink
    May 28, 2011 2:55 pm

    @ Julie

    I agree. To me Oxman always seemed like a vulture and an attention seeker. I don’t why on Earth the Jackson family always surround themselves with these kind of people (unfortunately Michael too).

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  10. Julie permalink
    May 28, 2011 2:30 pm

    Suzy, In my mind I truly question Brian Oxman’s friendship with the family. Randy seemingly tried to distance himself from Oxman and it just seems that he likes to remain in the middle of things to get his name out there and his face on TV. I think he filed Joe Jackson’s lawsuit pro bono. He has also had trouble with his practice – I think having had his license suspended at one time. When William Wagener interviewed Oxman a few months ago, Oxman attempted to take credit for the reason that Mesereau was able to show the discrepancy on the date on the adult magazine that Gavin Arvizo claimed Michael had shown him. I had heard Mesereau give Susan Yu the credit and I tend to believe Mesereau over Oxman. When Oxman jumped on TV two minutes after it was announced that Michael had died saying it was a drug overdose, his motives deserve questioning big time.

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  11. Julie permalink
    May 28, 2011 2:24 pm

    Thetis — I didn’t realize that. It was the first time I had seen anything on that and the date showed yesterday’s date as the original airing. In any event, to answer Susanne’s question, Dieter didn’t say anything about a book. He mainly discussed how he came to be in Michael’s world and how he wasn’t really accepted because he wasn’t part of the Hollywood scene.

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  12. May 28, 2011 2:15 pm

    @Julie this was Peretti’s 2nd “documentary” that was released long time ago and can be found on YT.

    As for the rest, science has already established the appropriate age which is at the end of adolesence when emotional and biological development is completed. This is why a person can sign something (aka give consent) at that age.

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  13. May 28, 2011 11:05 am

    There is a reason for an age limit for drinking alcohol or serving a minor,a minor can not enter into legal contracts (I am not a lawyer,correct me if I am wrong),there is an age limit for driving licence.Entering into a sexual relationship,and especially one at a young age,has far reching consequences. Many criteria have to be filled for a CONSENSUAL relationship.A certain equality in social standing and maturity, s.k. egostrength.By definition no equality exists between an adult and a child.-True ,in sime cultures girls maybe married off at age 12-14y.Usually without their consent and usually in these cultures women have a low status.

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  14. Susanne permalink*
    May 28, 2011 10:03 am

    @Julie: That is really interesting. Thanks for this information. Did Dieter Wiesner tell on this show that he also will publish a book about Michael? It will be published here in Germany also in November (like Joe Vogel’s book), it’s already on Amazon.de, but I don’t know if there will be an English translation. I am not sure if this book will be worth buying.

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  15. Suzy permalink
    May 28, 2011 4:36 am

    Thanks Julie, for the summary.

    “however, you have Oxman on there spouting his mouth about Michael and drugs. Oxman went so far as to say the the 2005 case stemmed from MJ’s relationship with Marc Shaffel and the porn industry (not sure how he came to that conclusion, but then again it’s Brian Oxman). Oxman tried to tie all of the pornography on the computers to Shaffel. “

    Oxman is such a fool. Michael did not have a “relationship with the porn industry”. He had a shady individual (Schaffel) in his life who had a past in the porn industry, but what does that have to do with Michael? The police never found any of Schaffel’s “products” in Michael’s possession. Also Schaffel produced gay porn movies. Michael had straight porn on his computers (and elsewhere in the form of magazines and DVDs). How is that related to Schaffel?

    Brian Oxman is the family’s lawyer and friend: Katherine Jackson now is teaming up with Howard Mann who has a past in the porn industry. Does that mean she has “a relationship with the porn industry”?

    Also how did the 2005 case stem from Schaffel?

    In her testimony Debbie Rowe said that Schaffel was selling false stories to the media about Michael so that he then could go to Michael and offer his services to solve the problem (that he created exactly for this). She didn’t say though what stories stammed from Schaffel. I don’t know if Oxman maybe means this, but if he does he should have been more clear about it. Also Schaffel’s little games might have contributed to the media backlash on Michael after LWMJ aired in February, 2003, but the whole case didn’t stam from him. It was not Schaffel who got the Arvizos turn on Michael.

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  16. Julie permalink
    May 28, 2011 12:35 am

    Ok guys, I was searching the channels tonight for something to watch and came across a show titled Michael Jackson. The information showed that Michael Jackson’s lawyer, former manager, private investigator and spiritual advisor were interviewed about what Hollywood had done to Michael Jackson.

    Straight away, as soon as I saw Jacques Peretti I was ready to be angry. Here is who was on the show: Brian Oxman, June Gatlin (spiritual advisor), Danny Bonaduce, Dieter Weisner, Paul Baressi (private investigator), Stephen Hoeflin’s former nurse (who sued him claiming among other things that he had looked at MJ’s penis during surgery after the allegations to see if the drawing matched and claimed he would also put Michael under and set the clocks forward to make Jackson think he’d had surgery – the case settled out of court). The one thing I find absurd about the clock story is that does anyone not think MJ would realize what time it was when he came out of the office? Anyway, it wasn’t quite as disgusting as I thought it would be; however, you have Oxman on there spouting his mouth about Michael and drugs. Oxman went so far as to say the the 2005 case stemmed from MJ’s relationship with Marc Shaffel and the porn industry (not sure how he came to that conclusion, but then again it’s Brian Oxman). Oxman tried to tie all of the pornography on the computers to Shaffel. Paul Baressi was the broker of sorts the LeMarque’s went to to sell their story about Jackson molesting Macauley Culkin. He stated he secured $100,000.00 with the National Enquirer for them to say they saw Jackson groping Culkin over his pants, but that the LeMarque’s went to a lawyer who was going to get them $500,000.00 to say that Jackson had his hand inside Culkin’s pants. He then went on to say it was a flat lie and that they had made it up. They only discussed Anthony Pellicano and his involvement with Jackson and Baressi said he gave the information about the LeMarque’s trying to sell the story to Pellicano after they ditched him. I got the impression during that segment of the show that Peretti was now learning that Michael Jackson was lied on and that it was all an attempt to extort money. Who knows since he’s such a creep. The taped conversation was played where Chandler is saying if things went his way he would get everything he wanted. Peretti did however bring up the settlement and claimed it was $22 million. Bonaduce merely talked about knowing Jackson in high school and how Jackson was a really nice guy and then talked about the lure of Hollywood in the drug scene, etc. Mickey Fine pharmacy was shown and discussed as Michael’s pharmacy of choice. Doctor shopping was discussed and Peretti implied that the reason Jackson had so many surgeries was not for the surgeries but for him to get drugs. Oxman stated that Jackson was able to secure doctors all over the world to supply him.

    Lisa Marie Presley was brought up and the fact that she is a devout Scientologist. Peretti asked Oxman if Jackson had been lured into that and Oxman stated he thought Jackson had made some donations but had never joined (which we know he never joined) and Weisner stated that Jackson had been approached by the Scientology center but had never taken part in it. Peretti made the comment that had Jackson turned to the cult (his words, but I agree) he would have had more support in 1993. Weisner claimed that when Jackson hired him he wanted Weisner to get rid of everyone, even bodyguards so he could start over because he felt that everyone was using him or trying to get a piece of him (I definitely think that is a true statement). Oxman concurred and said Jackson told him he would hire the ones that would steal from him the least because everyone seemed to steal from him). As I’m watching the words roll out of Oxman’s mouth I was thinking that he is one who also makes money off of Jackson’s back whenever and wherever he can. There was some talk about celebrity rehabs, but Peretti made the comment that it would be difficult for Jackson to go to rehab because there is no privacy. Bonaduce stated that he felt that there were people who would pay the $40K to go to rehab when they have no reason to be there just to see someone like Michael Jackson spilling his guts in sessions so they could sell stories about him. Probably a lot of truth in that too!

    It ended with June Gatlin the spiritual advisor. She was strange and she stated she knew Michael was going to die because she felt there were too many vampires around him. Peretti claimed that Michael Jackson slept with a black and white old photo of Gatlin every night. Once again, how on earth he would know what Jackson slept with is beyond me. Anything for sensationalism.

    Like I say, I’m not really sure what to make out of it. Wasn’t clear if he was trying to go easy on Jackson and just blame everything on the lure of Hollywood and celebrity, but definitely a better tell than his last piece of garbage. Don’t get me wrong, the guy’s a leech just like the rest of them. Maybe he got so much backlash from his earlier garbage piece that he is trying to redeem himself. Who knows, but just thought I would pass it along.

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  17. AnnieDomino permalink
    May 27, 2011 5:38 pm

    Great article. It is a matter of extreme pride to me that we as a fan community have always taken the high road. Our belief in Michael stems from our connection to his overwhelmingly good soul and our knowledge and research of the facts around his life. How easy it would have been to blindly say “oh well, if Michael is accused of this that or the other, that makes the behaviour OK”. Which is what they wanted us to do. Instead we took a stand at Michael’s side and fought for his values. I love it that Diane Demon has ackowledged that we are getting “organised”. It is not enough though!! There are so many of us and many in the community get side-tracked by nonsence – conspiracy theories and the like. We must have a credo, a creed, and find ways to support our goals articulately and in great numbers. Just been on a site called nancygracemustdie. Don’t like that title – Jesus and Michael taught us better. But interestingly this site catalogues all this woman’s many vile acts. But no mention of Michael. We must get these people – who see through NG and her ilk – onside!
    On the Jackson family. Sorry. The more time elapses after his death the more my respect for them dissipates. From what I have read he was NOT close to Rebbie, LaToya sold him out unforgivably in ’93, Tito was selling stories to the London tabs before he was even cold, Joe is a disgrace and Katherine dragging his kids in front of TV cameras and letting them hang out with the Smith kids makes me furious. Jermaine is a whole other discussion. Let us not forget that the “MJ was an out-of-control junkie” story originated with Brian Oxman – the Jackson family attorney who was preparing his challenge to MJ’s will then already. I was up all night on 25/6/09 watching CNN and I know! NONE of the Jackson’s articulate a defence of Michael well enough. And they have a huge audience. They all seem to be interested purely in their own financial gain.

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  18. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 27, 2011 11:38 am

    I Was thinking the same thing maybe he asked mike to support him financially he prob wanted what mike had like the wealth and prob even asked him many times for it and perhaps mike jus said no cause he saw him for what he is. or maybe mike helped him out but the money asking thing became a habit and mike said enough is enough make your own money.

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  19. lynande51 permalink
    May 27, 2011 12:09 am

    He might have been just another person who wanted something for nothing. It seems that it was a brother in law thing to me. Think about Jack Gordan and what he did and it was all because he just wanted to be supported financially by Michael.

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  20. May 26, 2011 9:51 pm

    Shelly this has nothing to do with the allegations at all. Brown is just not MJ’s fan or he was jealous of him

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  21. May 26, 2011 9:48 pm

    Yes, his job is in real estate and my friend start talking to him about MJ because she knew he was Rebbie’s husband.

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  22. shelly permalink
    May 26, 2011 9:19 pm

    @thetis,

    What did he say to your friend?

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  23. Julie permalink
    May 26, 2011 8:31 pm

    Thetis, (this is in no way meant to be taken as argumentative, but merely curiosity) you are saying that Nathaniel Brown was selling a house to your friend and just began to badmouth Michael Jackson to a complete stranger? That doesn’t say much about him as a person.

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  24. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 26, 2011 8:15 pm

    makes you wonder why nate disliked michael nate must be bad news if he dislikes sum1 like michael!

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  25. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 26, 2011 8:11 pm

    Ah Miss Oprah Winfrey Another Show host with no soul she has always tried to connect ped-lia to michael yet in front of his kids she acts like she was always by michaels side she is sick and chases the ratings and money now when i say i dont get the jackson family at times well you can put this one in there too etc. janet kissing jay leno another sucker with a crap show always picked on Mike and also said he belived mike was guilty i mean why would you wanna kiss the lips that said that filth about your brother either she didnt know or something else……

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  26. May 26, 2011 8:11 pm

    @Julie I only talked about Rebbie’s husband not liking MJ, not the rest of them. He was very vocal about it when he met a friend of mine to sell her a house.

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  27. Julie permalink
    May 26, 2011 6:19 pm

    I sincerely doubt Stacy Brown was related to Nathaniel Brown or it would have been stated as such. At best, he was identified on MSNBC as a family friend and then as the trial wore on, a sometimes family friend. I have never read or seen anything that indicates that Nathaniel Brown disliked Michael Jackson. Michael was very close with Rebbie’s children taking Austin on his HIStory tour. Yashi was on the Oprah special with Michael’s children last fall. Unless Stacy was not honest with Nathaniel about the content of the book and Nathaniel just advised him to write the book. It is all highly suspect because as stated previously Stacy Brown is a liar and has been caught lying so it’s not a stretch to say he lied about that either.

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  28. May 26, 2011 5:00 pm

    Stacy Brown has the same last name with Rebbie’s husband-maybe they are relatives. And Rebbie’s husband didn’t like MJ

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  29. Julie permalink
    May 26, 2011 1:45 pm

    Stacy Brown was also an MSNBC analyst during the trial so him not wanting any fame or seeking it is not true either. Why would you take that job to be on camera talking about the trial and things to which you really aren’t qualified to be answering if you weren’t seeking fame for yourself. Also, if he didn’t know Michael Jackson he should have plainly said so from the get go rather than just letting people believe it. I highly doubt that Rebbie’s husband told him to write Bob Jones’ book and I highly doubt Michael approved of it. If Michael truly gave his blessing to Bob then tell me why Bob was on the Peretti tape badmouthing Michael and does anyone truly believe that Michael would bless a book that basically lies about him. He might have understood that Bob needed the money, but when he was let go Michael was also under a tremendous amount of stress and strain and financial burdens as well so why should Michael Jackson have been expected to pay out to someone who was going to trash him. Stacy Brown stated that Bob Jones approached him at the arraignment while he was still Michael’s employee. So it makes sense that Randy got wind of it and fired the man. I think it’s telling that Bob got on the stand and couldn’t lie like he did in his book, nor could Stacy Brown.

    Michael Jackson was a very forgiving individual (which is what makes him all the more precious). It would be extremely difficult in my opinion to have forgiven LaToya after what she did (I don’t care what her explanation was), but he did. I truly don’t care for the way Oprah handled anything Michael Jackson and yet his family has been on her show. So the majority of them are forgiving. They are divided at times it appears, but I think that’s true in any family (especially when you have that many in the family), but they do stick together in hard times which is the way a family should do.

    I also do not believe Brown when he states he was not going to help author a book for the two turncoat jurors. There was too much out there that says otherwise. Thankfully, all of that went nowhere and those two jurors ended up with egg on their faces. I watched the youtube videos that Luna has put out and on part 84 you have Diane Sawyer (who is another sickening so called journalist with obvious bias) practically pushing the jury to say that celebrity had a factor and trying to get any one of them to say they had doubts, etc. She asked straight away if there were any second thoughts and they all shook their heads no, including the old bag who later came out and said she was forced to vote not guilty. It is all so very sickening. The media has way too much power and can turn things any which way they want and that’s just not right.

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  30. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 26, 2011 12:47 pm

    i think lynande51 said it best stacy goes along with whats popular not the truth! and i read rebbie is closely affliated with brown why would you want to be around someone who was part of hurting your brothers soul and even your little brother i dont understand the jackson family sometimes.

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  31. Teva permalink
    May 26, 2011 12:43 am

    @Truth Prevail
    I am not confused at all, Stacey Browne is a confessed liar, he declared it on the witness stand. The problem is when you are dealing with liars, and manipulators you never know what version of the truth you are going to get because there is always an angle. So, Tom Mesereau, Michael Jackson and Bob Jones kissed and made up because Michael understood that Bob needed to insinuate that he was a P in order to generate an income. If Michael was against Randy’s firing Bob – why not just re-hire him? That would make the most sense to me, rather than giving him his blessing to write a tell-all about his alleged P*philiac proclivities. Unbelievable! Talk about a suspension of believe.

    Some of what he is saying maybe true, or it may all be lies, but the one thing I believe is – it is not all 100% truthful.

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  32. lynande51 permalink
    May 25, 2011 11:38 pm

    He just blows with popular opinion.

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  33. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 25, 2011 11:25 pm

    all fans should check this out http://muzikfactorytwo.blogspot.com/2011/05/stacy-brown-breaks-his-silence-about.html

    scroll down to the part about stacy brown its a must read and tell me what u think am confused now.

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  34. Teva permalink
    May 25, 2011 9:31 pm

    @thetis7

    I agree it is criminal with mental illness at the foundation.

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  35. May 25, 2011 7:45 pm

    “since the release of Michael’s autopsy and Murray’s Search Warrant and Affidavit tens of thousands have poured over the docs fact checking them against what the Media prints on Murray’s behalf. Numbering among the Fans are Medical and Legal professionals who offered objective insight. Fans have taken to informing the public of major discrepancies in how Murray is handled compared to others criminal suspects by law enforcement and the Media, also illustrating how many times, when and who airs prejudicial programs on Michael meant to taint potential jurors.”

    DIAL, GREAT OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THE GREAT JOB DONE BY MICHAEL’S FOLLOWERS

    Diane Dimond recently summed it up, with trepidation in her voice she said; “They are getting organized”.
    EXCELLENT NEWS

    “Had Michael shown what would have been considered overt interest in his little girl friends; had they been allowed to travel with him the opposite would have happened and a different group with the same intent would have latched onto him, attempting to use his name, fame and influence
    NO DOUBT ABOUT IT

    “For all their high minded talk and accusations of society’s hypocrisy they also fall into this category. One size fits all….. an adult (particularly male) + a child = Sex.”

    SOMETHING MUST BE TOTALLY WRONG WITH US IF WE SEE THIS TYPE OF SEX WHERE THERE IS NONE – BUT PUT UP WITH THOSE WHO OPENLY PROMOTE IT.

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  36. May 25, 2011 7:20 pm

    “Thank you for the article. Well researched as everytime”

    Appleh, thank you (and everyone), but I accept these words only on behalf of my co-author “MOA”. She provided the text and all the links which sent me after those guys. A little more research brought me to that dreadful Wiki ped-lia site where they are openly displaying the sickness of their minds (no link is provided not to give them more promotion than they have now).

    What is utterly astonishing is that these guys feel completely safe and sound and this fact is all the more amazing in comparison with what they did to Michael. The media, police and DA went after a completely innocent man while real ped-les are arranging their parties in full public view and no one seems to be paying attention to it!?

    Of course they don’t go under their real names there, but apart from that they are freely promoting their views and are doing a tremendous damage to the society as they are eroding the pubic’s resistance to their views this way.

    Thetis is right – these people are sick, and like many mentally disturbed people they don’t know about it – but what is terrible is that they want the whole world to conform to their sickness and catch the ‘infection’ too!

    One of the articles I’ve found shows the way they are breaking through the natural resistance barrier. Unfortunately the journalist thinks that MJ is one of them and is trashing his name there. But if we disregard these parts the rest will be completely true (please don’t think that the author is siding with ped-les – he is just being sarcastic):

    The shortened version:

    November 25, 2003
    If Michael Jackson did, in fact, as it is alleged, have sex with a minor boy, what’s wrong with that? The question is not meant to be cute; I am serious. [ ] why shouldn’t he and the boy be allowed the orientation of their choice? If you disagree, who are you to impose your morality on them?

    Are you outraged by this? Do you think we have gone too far? Not far enough, some say. Yesterday’s unacceptable (divorce, premarital sex, abortion, homosexuality, group sex, domestic partnerships and, soon, same-sex marriage) are today’s acceptable [Victor Gutierrez’s constant theme].

    It’s just a matter of conditioning. Groups exist that promote adult-child sex. Expect an alliance – composed of academics, theologians and cultural commentators – to ram this home through the media, crushing whatever resistance remains.

    [What the author spoke of as a theoretical possibility in 2003 is actually taking place now – we do have an alliance of “professors” who are “recommending” a book by a convicted pedophile as family reading!]

    Nothing shames us. In pursuit of freedom we have embraced license and now licentiousness, throwing off all restraint.

    The Abercrombie & Fitch Christmas Field Guide magazine, targeted to 10- to 13-year-olds, contains 45 specific portrayals of sexual imagery in the first 120 pages, according to Kevin McCullough, who counted them for an essay on WorldNetDaily.com. The images, he writes, “include overt portrayals of group sex, lots of teen and young adult nudity, men kissing and teens/young adults frolicking in a river engaging in sexual activity in multiple group settings.”

    [Now if this is true why did they go after the man who didn’t have a tiny piece of that in his library and don’t go after the publishers of this magazine?]

    The company now markets thong underwear to girls between 8 and 10.
    Should we be surprised when some people act on the permission the media give them? Seen those Calvin Klein underwear commercials featuring children in poses appealing to pedophiles?
    The early sexualization of children has produced ever-earlier sexual activity (and pregnancy) among those children.

    Professional organizations are trying to catch up in the race to normalize what we once called “depravity.” The American Psychiatric Association (APA), which declared homosexual practice normal, has recently entertained the notion of similarly downgrading pedophilia. The APA’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) once contended that merely “acting upon” one’s urges toward children was enough to generate a diagnosis of pedophilia (DSM-III). But in the revised DSM-IV, a person who molests a child is considered psychiatrically sick only if his actions “caused clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational or other important areas of functioning.”

    That seems to mean that if the molester is OK with it and the child doesn’t complain, it’s healthy. It can’t be wrong if it feels so right, right?

    [Don’t take the question literally, the author is just being sarcastic]

    The National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) challenged the APA’s stand. Writing on NARTH’s Web page (www.narth.com), Linda Ames Nicolosi notes that a different organization, American Psychological Association, has published the “Rind” study, which downplays the effects of man-boy sex. Rind supported the “finding that quite a few of the boys remembered their childhood sexual experiences positively,” she writes. The association later apologized for the study and then seemed to backpedal.

    [ ] The sexualization of children is supported by state governments, many of which mandate sex education as early as kindergarten. School nurses dispense contraceptives and abortion advice without parental knowledge or approval. Teen magazines such as Cosmo Girl and Seventeen promote sexual activity for minor children. A British charity publishes a children’s sex guide, “Say Yes, Say No, Say Maybe.” It explains various positions and the excitement of intercourse….

    http://townhall.com/columnists/calthomas/2003/11/25/judging_michael_jackson_and_ourselves

    Compare the above with the way Michael Jackson brought up his children and you will see all the difference in the world between them and him.

    It may look like a paradox to Michael’s detractors but Michael’s fans are the natural allies of those who work against early sexualization of children (and their abuse all the more so), and are natural opponents to ped-les. I personally don’t intend to pay attention to the effort of anti-abuse groups to push us away – we know that Michael did no wrong and that he would want us to defend children’s innocence against those beasts, so let his will prevail over everything else.

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  37. appleh permalink
    May 25, 2011 5:27 pm

    Thank you for the article. Well researched as everytime !

    “My first statement is that I want to dispel the image that a child is an ”innocent little puppy dog”. Children have plenty of knowledge about life, the universe and everything. But adults tend not to listen to their children. This ”innocent puppy” syndrome represses the child’s social, sexual, political, economical, and emotional desires. Children are not taken seriously and are expected to conform to a society in which they can’t question its validity. This has got to stop! A child is a sexual being. Therefore, children should have the right to explore any aspect of sexuality they desire to engage in. Why do parents, politicians, and police (the 3 p’s) feed guilt into children that are sexually active?”

    The statement above is one of the worst I ever heard. This is such a lame and weak excuse for adults who prefere sexuality with children !
    I don´t believe that children, until they reach a certain age, have any interest in sex either they don´t know anything about it. The opposite is the fact. They suffer for the rest of their life. Many adults who where molested or worse as a child, still have psychological problems ! People who justify the abuse of children just want to calm their conscience and refuse the knowlegde they do harm children !!!

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  38. May 25, 2011 5:26 pm

    Guys there is no point in trying to understand what these people are saying. P-philia is a disorder in the cluster of sexual deviances. Part of the disorder, like in many others, is that they DO NOT understand that they are sick.

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  39. May 25, 2011 5:07 pm

    “The attempted and clearly agenda’d hijacking of Michael’s name by these people will take vigilance and attention to ensure its failure.”

    Oh, Deborah, it does require extreme vigilance on our part! And I think that we should not only defend Michael from these beasts but follow them into their lair and expose them for what they are.

    It is a very unpleasant thing to say but at the moment some of them are pretending to be current or former Michael’s fans. The idea is to take advantage of the fans’ dedication to Michael and stealthily lull them into thinking – “So what if your idol turns out to be a p-le ? He was so loving a person that all his boy friends simply adored him! See how beautiful and beneficial these relations are? So why don’t you help us promote this kind of love?”

    THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING AMONG MICHAEL’S FANS! They want to prove that Michael was one of them and then make his fans reconcile to “the inevitable” thus turning millions of his supporters into supporters of their cause! A devilish plan, isn’t it? So what we are getting in is really serious – not to mention the fact that if we work against these beasts it will probably save some children’s lives….

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  40. May 25, 2011 4:48 pm

    “DD recently said “They are getting organized”? Wow! This makes me proud of us!”

    DD said so? Interesting! Seeing the great work done by others I am happy that Michael’s vindication is carried out on so many levels, by so many people and at so high a standard. It is the effect of Michael himself – with a teacher like that you feel that you simply cannot let him down.

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  41. May 25, 2011 4:34 pm

    “Premature sexual activity is usually the result of c.m. or other inappropriate exposure to adult sexuality”

    Kaarin, absolutely! Premature sexual activity is the result of a social environment a child is living in. If vice is not forced on children and kept away from them they grow into normal and healthy human beings capable of creating a family of their own. However these beasts are forcing children into sex in order to satisfy their deepest form of depravity and rid children of any future this way.

    I understand Michael very much indeed – life will not be worth living if these crimes are somehow accepted and children are involved in it. It would be better to close one’s eyes and die than see an outcome like that. Just imagine it for a second and you will realize that the world without the children’s innocence – where “everything is allowed” – is doomed.

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  42. May 25, 2011 3:44 pm

    Great article.I could get the Arte Channel by purchasing the necessary card.But I will not now , having heard about the programs they air. One concept that is lacking is gender identity.This starts to form and consolidate around age 2 years.It has nothing to do with children wanting to engage in adult sexual activity.Any parent can testify to this.You notice this by how children want to dress and their preferred play activities.Children maintain a natural decourum and integrity in these matters.

    -to jump to another matter-
    once upon a time I was the lucky owner of a wonderful cat. My friend,a female ,had a lovely dog. She once told me: Now, don´t say that T.(name of my cat) does not sleep in your bed! Her dog did. And I bet many people do, though not all. Should we be accused of bestiality? That is also a crime.–

    There are some unfortunate children in whom the hormonal programming goes awry and who develop secondary sex attributes at a very early age.They are extremely unhappy and uncomfortable with this. Premature sexual activity is usually the result of c.m. or other inappropriate exposure to adult sexuality.

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  43. Susanne permalink*
    May 25, 2011 11:34 am

    That’s a great article – however, as you said, probably just scratching the surface of the problem!

    @Dialdancer: DD recently said “They are getting organized”? Wow! This makes me proud of us!

    Knowing that “THEY” – all of them – are following the blogs is just a challenge to continue, isn’t it? God is on our side!

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  44. Deborah Ffrench permalink
    May 25, 2011 7:54 am

    Thank you for this extraordinary post VMJ and MOA . You are right in saying:

    ” … vindicating Michael is equivalent to fighting pedophilia and supporting the right of children to have an innocent childhood free from sex, corruption and predators … ”

    The attempted and clearly agenda’d hijacking of Michael’s name by these people will take vigilance and attention to ensure its failure.

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  45. May 24, 2011 9:59 pm

    That was a great post.

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  46. May 24, 2011 8:43 pm

    “I always suspected the p-le propaganda machine behind ARTE’s insistance on playing this “documentary” again and again.”

    Suzy, the way you called it — the ped-le propaganda machine — is a precise definition for what these people are doing now.

    Guys, i can assure you that NONE OF YOU can imagine how incredibly immense the scope of their activity is. While looking for some information I came across their own WIKI encyclopedia which OPENLY explains their main ideas and gives advice on how to refute the usual arguments against ped-les.

    They go as far as giving examples on how to react when they are asked “incorrect questions”:

    “Incorrect questions are another interesting point of many discussions. The point of an incorrect question is that any direct answer is incorrect too. The only correct way is to point out that it is an incorrect question. Often a short comparison allows to make this point. It is useful to collect standard answers for standard incorrect questions:

    – “Can you prove that the relation will not cause any harm for the child? (Can you prove it for playing soccer?)

    – “If there is a remaining risc, who has to decide if this risc is small enough? The child, the adult, the parents, the authorities? (People who love each other never will ask anybody else for permission. Thus, the only question for parents and authorities is how to react if they observe a relation.)

    – “What do you think is an appropriate age for having sex? (It is not my intention to create moral standards for other people.)

    etc.

    AND YOU KNOW WHAT? One of the contributors to this site is Professor James R. Kincaid who is “currently Aerol Arnold Chair in English and Professor of English at the University of South Carolina, where he has been teaching since 1987” and who, as you know, was one of several professors who recommended Thomas O’Carroll’s book.

    It seems that both O’Carroll and Kincaid are activists of the ped-le ‘movement’ as this wiki ped-lia site provides two big articles about their great ‘achievements’. And James Kincaid is allowed to teach his ideas openly to the young people attending the university!

    And I’ve only scratched the problem on the surface of it……

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  47. Dialdancer permalink
    May 24, 2011 8:09 pm

    “Another one Murray’s lawyer once mentioned that he is not afraid of what the medialoids reports (interesting why? because they all are paid to trash bash slander and assassin Michael’s character) that he is more concerned about the blogs!”

    And so they should be afraid of the blogs, since the release of Michael’s autopsy and Murray’s Search Warrant and Affidavit tens of thousands have poured over the docs fact checking them against what the Media prints on Murray’s behalf. Numbering among the Fans are Medical and Legal professionals who offered objective insight. Fans have taken to informing the public of major discrepancies in how Murray is handled compared to others criminal suspects by law enforcement and the Media, also illustrating how many times, when and who airs prejudicial programs on Michael meant to taint potential jurors. (Dateline’s “The Secret Life of Michael Jackson “Feb & Mar, each a day prior to Murray’s 2010 court appearances)

    Just because the Media portrays all Fans and Supporters as nitwits and the delusional does not make them so. Diane Dimond recently summed it up, with trepidation in her voice she said; “They are getting organized”.

    Had Michael shown what would have been considered overt interest in his little girl friends; had they been allowed to travel with him the opposite would have happened and a different group with the same intent would have latched onto him, attempting to use his name, fame and influence. For all their high minded talk and accusations of society’s hypocrisy they also fall into this category. One size fits all….. an adult (particularly male) + a child = Sex.

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  48. Suzy permalink
    May 24, 2011 6:58 am

    Great article! Thanks “MOA” and Helena!

    “I would even say that from his very young age Michael Jackson was rather ‘old-fashioned’ in his views on children and family life. All he wanted was to promote traditional family values”

    I agree. That’s why he connected with all those families and liked being with them, like the Cascios and many others. And that’s why it makes me sad that a traditional family was never given to him. (I believe because of his trust issues – which sadly, for the most part, proved to be justfied because people betrayed him left and right all the time.)

    “The Unicorn (first column)’ by a 11-year-old faggot”

    Are they claiming that article was written by a 11-year-old? Yeah, right….

    “From the way he spoke about children it seems that it was easier for him to slit his wrists than mention the word “sexuality” in connection with a child. He could never utter the word “molestation” either and was known to paste with paper bits some too revealing pieces in pictures hanging on the walls of a friend’s house so that his children didn’t see them…”

    Also, remember that note he left to his sister-in-law Dee-Dee about an article on child m-ion.

    Doesn’t the name of Europe’s ARTE ring a bell with you? It is the same company which made Peretti’s film about Michael Jackson and broadcast it twice (and will do it again). One cannot help noticing that ARTE has a certain weakness for Bey, Gutierrez and the like…

    I always suspected the p-le propaganda machine behind ARTE’s insistance on playing this “documentary” again and again.

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  49. May 24, 2011 2:06 am

    that he is more concerned about the blogs!

    It’s interesting…

    Stacy Brown cowering because of the fans spreading word of his continued alliance with Rebbie, Arnold and Jason going nuts on their personal sites because of fans. Uri Geller also complained about a hate campaign from fans when it was outed that he’d been paid for the Bashir hook up (he gave it all to charity of course, supposedly).

    Fans really do have power and the media and the people themselves are very aware of it, it seems.

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  50. May 24, 2011 2:02 am

    VMJ: So “some blogs even forbid that word and kick people with another view from their forum”? It seems to be about us! Are they following us the way they followed Michael and check every word of what we are saying?

    Wow, they’ve really outted themselves here.

    Interesting read, I had no idea they had newsletters circulating his friendships with people since the 80s. They’ve been hoping for a poster boy for quite a while, and now they’re mad that they’ve lost him.

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  51. Irma permalink
    May 24, 2011 1:54 am

    Wonderful piece! Thank you so much!

    It’s not a new thing that the medialoids follow the blogs,the twitters and the pages of Michael Jackson fans.

    Last year TMZ stole a photo from some fans that planned to deliver a box with letters to Michael in the first anniversary. And they put it in their repulsive site making fun of Michael and his fans.

    Another one Murray’s lawyer once mentioned that he is not afraid of what the medialoids reports (interesting why? because they all are paid to trash bash slander and assassin Michael’s character) that he is more concerned about the blogs!

    They definitely follow you and all the other Michael Jackson blogs!

    I hope you have everything backed up. I am really afraid that someone will do everything to take your blog down.

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