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Fact Checking Michael Jackson’s Christian Faith, Part 2 of 7: Michael Did NOT “Channel” Demon Spirits to Help Him Write Songs!

December 30, 2011

“God laid this out to me as plain as day. The three ways Michael Jackson got his songs….”

In this clip, the pastor describes the 3 ways that MJ said he was inspired to write songs:

1. Sitting in his Giving Tree: (which he erroneously said that MJ called the “Tree of Knowledge” which is NOT true!). MJ named that tree after the children’s book “The Giving Tree”, written in 1964 by the well-acclaimed poet and author Shel Silverstein.  This should come as no surprise to MJ fans, as he was a very prolific reader and owned thousands of books.  He used the tree for the same reason that many others use their trees: as a place of peace and tranquility, where he could be free of the pressures of fame and show business. He would use the serenity and solace that he experienced there to write songs, such as “Heal The World”, “Will You Be There”, and “Black Or White”. You can listen to a reading of “The Giving Tree” in the video below:

Here is MJ himself discussing what the tree means to him (and please ignore Martin Bashir’s sinister commentary. Read this post to find out the truth about this documentary, of which MJ never gave his authorization before it aired!)

Here is an excerpt from his interview with Ed Bradley of 60 Minutes where he discusses the therapeutic nature of tree climbing that he wanted his future accuser and cancer patient Gavin Arvizo to experience as he visited Neverland:

EB: How would you characterize your relationship with this boy?

MJ: I’ve helped many, many, many children, thousands of children, cancer kids, leukemia kids. This is one of many.

EB: So, when he would come over, what would he do? What would you do?

MJ: I’ll tell you exactly. When I first saw Gavin, he was total bald-headed, white as snow from the chemotherapy, very bony, looked anorexic, no eyebrows, no eyelashes. And he was so weak, I would have to carry him from the house to the game room, or push him in a wheelchair, to try to give him a childhood, a life. Cause I felt bad. Because I never had that chance, too, as a child. You know? That the– and so, I know what it… it felt like in that way. Not being sick, but not having had a childhood. So, my heart go out to those children I feel their pain.

EB(narrating): Michael says he tried to help in the healing process by taking the boy around the grounds of Neverland to Jackson’s favorite places.

MJ: He had never really climbed a tree. So, I had this tree that I have at Neverland. I call it, “My Giving Tree.” Cause I like to write songs up there. I’ve written many songs up there. So, I said, “You have to climb a tree. That’s part of boyhood. You just gotta do it.” And– I helped him up. And once he went up… up the tree, we looked down on the branches. And it was so beautiful. It was magical. And he loved it. To give him a chance to have a life, you know? Because he was told he was going to die. They told him. They told his parents prepare for his funeral, that’s how bad it was. And I put him on a program. I’ve helped many children doing this. I put him on a mental program.

2. “His Room of Mirrors that he claims MJ used to channel the spirit of Liberace”: What he is relying on for his quotes is the sloppily researched and heavily biased documentary “They Sold Their Souls For Rock N Roll”, a 10 hour expose on the music industry’s connection to Satanism. In it, they dedicate a few minutes to Michael Jackson, and they quote an interview that he purportedly gave to the Psychic News on February 14th, 1987 (and has since been published on Paranormal News Central):

Pop superstar Michael Jackson claims that he inwardly communicates with the flamboyant, pianist Lee Liberace who died in 1987.  Although Jackson is known for his eccentric behavior over the years, it’s obvious that there is definitely something different about him.  The following are quotes from various interviews he has had.

“I have my one secret room, with a moving wall and mirrors. That’s where I talk to Lee Liberace. His is the voice I hear in there. I feel his presence so very close to me.” Liberace is like my guardian angel. He’s even given me permission to record his theme song “I’ll be seeing you”. – Michael Jackson. Psychic News, Feb 14th. 1987.

“When I hit the stage it’s all of a sudden a magic form somewhere that comes and the spirit just hits you, and you lose control of yourself”. It happens subliminally. It’s the music that compels me to do it. You don’t think about it, it just happens. I’m slave to the rhythm’ (1993 Oprah Winfrey interview [explaining the reason for the overt sexuality during his concerts], The Evening Star, Feb. 11, 1993, p. A10).

“I wake up from dreams and go ‘Wow, put this down on paper,’ the whole thing is strange. You hear the words, everything is right there in front of your face. I feel that somewhere, someplace it’s been done and I’m just a courier bringing it into the world” (Rolling Stone, Feb. 17, 1983).

“When I hit the stage it’s all of a sudden a ‘magic’ from somewhere that comes and the spirit just hits you, and you just lose control of yourself” (Teen Beat: A Tribute to Michael Jackson, Summer 1984, p. 27).

There is no reason whatsoever to believe that he gave this interview to Psychic News, and it very well may be a fabrication. Psychic News was a known as a “spirituality magazine”, and it originated from Britain, which is home to some of the most scandalous and sleazy tabloids in the world. (The phone hacking scandal from earlier this year is a perfect example of this.) It is very common for tabloids to fabricate interviews, pay people to lie (read this post for details on how some of MJ’s friends and family were offered hundreds of thousands of dollars to lie and say he was gay), and post doctored photos of celebrities to show them in an unflattering light. (For example, MJ sued the British tabloid “The Mirror” in 1992 for doctoring a photo of his face and saying it was mutilated by plastic surgery, and the lawsuit was settled in 1998.)

Here is an examples of tabloids fabricating interviews and deliberately printing false information about celebrities by relying on their “sources”:

1. Tom Cruise, one of Hollywood’s biggest superstars, has had to fight false allegations of being a homosexual for many years, and he filed two defamation lawsuits against tabloids who printed false stories about him. In 2001, he sued Bold magazine after they claimed to have obtained a videotape of Cruise engaging in homosexual acts, and he dropped his lawsuit once they issued a retraction. (How nice of him!) Cruise later sued Chad Slater, a gay porn actor who had been quoted in a tabloid and said he had an affair with Cruise. After being served with Cruise’s lawsuit, Slater said that the interview had been fabricated by the magazine, and the magazine published a retraction. Cruise eventually won a $10-million verdict against the porn star.

2. Nadya Suleman, who the tabloid media has dubbed the “Octomom” due to her giving birth to octuplets via in-vitro fertilization, denied reports that she criticized her children in an interview with tabloid magazine “In Touch”. She was quoted as saying that she “hates her babies”, “is disgusted by them”, and that they are “animals”.  She said the entire interview was fabricated, reiterated her love for her children, and she wouldn’t sue because it would take too much time and money. Here’s an excerpt from the article:

Suleman, who made headlines when she gave birth to octuplets in 2009, went on to say that she currently has no plans to sue the publication, claiming it “would monopolize quite a bit of time and energy and money“, and instead wants to move on. “I need to just keep moving forward as I have been doing and stay strong,” she said.

“I realize I completely must ignore these claims because they’re erroneous and they’re false.”This is not the first time [this has happened]. From the beginning, 95% of what has been said in tabloids, especially in America, has been lies literally pulled out of thin air. I’ve been writing a book and I’ve said that and disclosed so many things they have lied about.”

She added: “My advice to all the people reading or listening is don’t believe a single thing unless it comes out of the person’s mouth.

And notice how they turned her into the “Octomom” caricature the same way they turned MJ into a “Wacko Jacko” caricature! The parallels between the two couldn’t be more evident!

3. Here is a video of Richard Matsuura, who did an interview in 2004 to refute a lie that was printed about he and MJ in Vanity Fair magazine by tabloid trash peddler Maureen Orth. (I will be rebutting all five of her Vanity Fair articles in the next few months, so stay tuned.) According to her source – which happened to be a former business associate of MJ who had an axe to grind – MJ plied Richard with Matsuura with alcohol in 1998, when he was only 12 years old. Any decent journalist would have contacted Matsuura and his father to corroborate the story, but Orth just ran with it without verifying it’s authentic! Matsuura vehemently denied the story, and this just goes to show the lengths that people will go to slander celebrities in the name of the almighty dollar!

4. Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow was said to have tried to “force” a group of NFL draft prospects to pray before taking a written test during the pre-draft scouting combine in March 2010. A “league source” told a journalist for the blog Pro Football Talk that Tebow was told to “shut the f*** up” after he initiated his request, and several other players in the room laughed. But Tebow completely denied the story, and it is totally out of character of him to force anyone to pray. Here’s an excerpt:

He reached out, via agent Jimmy Sexton, in response to Tuesday night’s story regarding the incident during the Wonderlic testing at the Scouting Combine.  As a league source told us, Tebow said something in the testing room about saying a prayer.  And then another player said something in response.  And then some of the other players laughed.

But Tebow says it didn’t happen.

Not one single word of it is true,” Tebow told me.

Tebow has a very genuine and disarming way about him.  There’s an innocence and kindness in his voice that conflicts with the image of a highly successful college quarterback, who was arguably one of the best college football players of all time.

He was nevertheless firm and resolute in his denial.

“One of the number one things for me is being someone of character and when I say something people can take it to the bank,” Tebow said.  “That story is absolutely not true.”

5. Here is the audio from the late, great Ed Bradley of 60 Minutes, as he discusses his December 2003 interview with Michael Jackson on the Larry King show in February 2004. Notice how he describes how the New York Times attributed a fabricated quote to him, and how he could NEVER do that as a journalist on 60 Minutes! We did a post on this issue, and you can read it here:

Those aforementioned stories are just a few examples of how far the media is willing to go in search of revenues and ratings, without any regard whatsoever for the truth! There’s an old saying in the media that goes as follows: “Never let the truth get in the way of a good story”. That couldn’t be more applicable, not only to the media, but to G. Craig Lewis!

Here is a quote from conservative commentator Matt Drudge, who vehemently defended MJ on his radio show throughout the 2005 trial, and you can listen to that audio beginning in this post. He was very critical of the media for their biased reporting, which helped turn the public against MJ:

Matt Drudge: I think if you did a pulse poll, of people listening to these local talk shows, they would say 95% that Michael Jackson did all thisThey would say that, because it’s based on the coverage! It’s based on the coverage!

MJ met Liberace on several occasions, deeply admired him for his artistry, and used him as an inspiration for some of his costumes and outfits. Here is a photo they took together at a party in 1983:

And here is a video that they appear in briefly at 0:26.

MJ’s admiration for Liberace didn’t extend any further than his artistry and attire! MJ did NOT “worship” him or “channel his spirits”, or any other nonsense that is spouted either here or elsewhere. MJ routinely gave God the credit for his talents and success, and I will give numerous examples of this later on in this series.

And as far as the “using mirrors to channel spirits” garbage, ALL DANCERS use mirrors to practice and hone their technique!  How else are they supposed to know if they’re doing their moves correctly? Here is a video of MJ dancing in his personal dance studio at Neverland:

3. And through his dreams (meaning that MJ channeled the “God of Dreams”).   Give me a break! He’s twisting the words of Randy Phillips, the President of AEG Live, where he said the following in an interview in October 2009:

“Michael said, ‘But Kenny, God channels this through me at night. I can’t sleep because I’m so super-charged.’

“Kenny said, ‘But Michael, we have to finish. Can’t God take a vacation?’ Without missing a beat, Michael said, ‘You don’t understand – if I’m not there to receive these ideas, God might give them to Prince.'”

MJ always said that his songwriting talent was a gift from God, and he openly acknowledged God in front of others (as evidenced through his “This Is It” rehearsals, and in his conversation with Dr. Conrad Murray that was surreptitiously recorded while he was under anesthesia). What Randy Phillips is saying here has nothing to do with what G. Craig Lewis said in his presentation. Lewis is trying to say that MJ wanted to go to sleep so he could “communicate with spirits” in order to get song ideas, but Randy is saying that he wanted MJ to stop adding new vignettes (which are short video introductions, such as the one for “Smooth Criminal”) due to their high costs.

MJ had such a hard time sleeping because of several factors: first of all, he suffered from Lupus, and insomnia is one of the most common side effects. Second, he was under tremendous stress to make sure that his 50 concert comeback tour was a tremendous success, and as we all know, stress is a major factor in the insomnia of millions of people around the world.  Third, as a result of the stress of making sure his tour was a success, he practiced long hours, and danced many strenuous routines that pushed his adrenaline levels to the limit. As a result, it was very difficult for him to “come down” after experiencing the tremendous highs that come from hours upon hours of vigorous activity.  He was NOT a “drug addict” (and this article proves it), and his desire for propofol – the anesthetic that Dr. Murray used to help MJ sleep – was based on the desired side effects of the drug (i.e. being made unconscious for several hours), and not for his own pleasure!

The notion that he wanted sleep in order to “channel spirits” to get song ideas is utterly preposterous! In this 1983 interview, at 1:05 you can clearly hear him say that he thinks of song ideas at all times of the day, and that there is no set time that he writes! In fact, the songs that he wrote in his Giving Tree further discredit the notion that he had to be asleep to “channel spirits” and be inspired to write! Don’t you think he would have fallen out of the tree if he had been sleeping there??!!

Lewis goes on to say that “Michael would sleep for three or four days at a time because he was trying to get hit songs. He even said one time that he couldn’t go to sleep because a spirit told him that if he did not get to sleep to get this song, the spirit is going to give it to Prince”.  This is a total fabrication of what Randy Phillips said in the aforementioned interview. MJ’s desire for propofol was to get the rest his 50 year old body so badly needed after long hours of rehearsing, and NOT to get “inspired” to write another hit song! He didn’t need any more hit songs! He already had 40 years’ worth of hit songs! MJ had no plans on releasing any album until after his tour was completed, and he wasn’t even recording any new material in the last weeks of his life!
At the very end, he claimed that the reason MJ wanted sedation is because he was trying to sleep to get the inspiration for “the next hit song”, when we all know it was due to insomnia!

Here’s a crazy idea: instead of relying on the word of someone who has never met MJ, and who clearly has an agenda to smear him, let’s rely on someone who was a close friend of MJ, and worked EXTENSIVELY with him in the studio!

In July 2009, audio engineer and music producer Bruce Swedien released a book titled “In The Studio with Michael Jackson”, where he chronicles his many years of friendship and collobrations with MJ. This post from the MJJ-777 blog includes an excerpt from the book.

Here is an interview he gave shortly after MJ’s death:

In November 2011, college professor and doctoral candidate Joe Vogel released “Man In The Music”, which meticulously describes MJ’s songwriting process and techniques. Here is a 3 hour radio interview he gave where he describes his motivation for writing the book.

Finally, Lewis claimed “God laid this out to me as plain as day”, well let’s look at what William Wagener, a staunch MJ supporter and advocate for justice, said that God said to him.  Here is a 3 hour radio interview he gave in October 2010 to Rev. Catherine Gross (who I’ll discuss in more detail later on in this series), and at 106:00 he says the following:

“I’m not one of these people who follows celebrities. I don’t read celeb mags, I don’t follow Oprah, I’m just not into that. I follow justice issues, and it just turned out that as I got into the Michael Jackson trial, I saw tremendous injustice, and then I couldn’t stop going, and I had to start speaking out.  The first show I did, I didn’t say much one way or the other, but I had some guests that were pretty certain that Michael was guilty, so I let them say their piece, and I asked them “Do you really think Michael’s guilty?” and I pinned them down, and they were kind of wishy- washy, and they wanted to bring attention to victim’s rights.

I prayed to Almighty God “If the defense attorneys have been so smooth, and so cleverly pulled this trial together to make Michael look innocent when he’s really guilty, please Heavenly Father don’t let me be misled. Don’t let me be screaming “He’s not guilty!” when in fact he’s guilty.” And I stood there in prayer, and just meditated, and within a minute or two I felt an answer from the Holy Spirit saying this: “Michael Jackson is completely innocent of all these charges. Even though he’s not a perfect human being, he will be found not guilty on all 10 charges, because, in fact, he IS innocent,” and God had said to me “Michael Jackson is mine! He belongs to me, and I will take him, but first he will be found Not Guilty of all these charges and now I want you William Wagener, to go proclaim it to your church. Not on television, but I want you to first go to the church you go to, and proclaim it.

Based on the outcome of the trial, who do you think was telling the truth? G. Craig Lewis or William Wagener? I’d place my money on Wagener!

He claims that MJ built the statue of himself for the “HIStory” album because “the Nephilim spirit in him wanted to be worshipped”.  You’ve got to be kidding me! That statue was built in order to be used as part of a multi-million dollar marketing campaign for the album, and nothing more. He wasn’t a narcissist who felt he should be worshipped, and didn’t film that trailer as anything other than promotion.  Here is what he had to say to Diane Sawyer in 1995 about the “self-deification” nonsense criticism that he faced at that time:

 Diane: We’re going to show you a film now, created by Michael Jackson, and it’s causing a furore in some movie theatres around this country. They say among other things that it’s clearly modelled after Triumph of The Will. I mean Rieffenschtal. A Nazi film with a Nazi meaning to it.

Michael: It’s not true. None of that’s true. None of those things are true.

Diane: Did you watch that film before you did it?

Michael: I watch everything. I love movies. I love documentaries. It had nothing to do with that at all.

Diane: But there are people who keep saying this is…they look at it and say this is…

Michael: Absolutely not.

Diane: You were…

Michael: It has nothing to do with politics, or Communism, or Fascism…

Diane: Well…

Michael: At all.

Diane: Well the critics have said that it’s the most “body vein, glorious, self-deaffecation a pop singer ever undertook with a straight face”.

Michael: Good! That’s what I wanted.

Diane: For the controversy?

Michael: Yeah!

Diane: And they…

Michael: They fell into my trap.

Diane: But the people who say that…

Michael: I wanted everybody’s attention.

Diane: But for the people who say these symbols matter…

Michael: No. The symbols…no.

Diane: The suffering…

Michael: No. The symbol has nothing to do with that. It’s not political. It’s not Fascist. It’s not dogma. It’s not, you know, ideaology and all this stuff. It’s pure, simple love. You don’t see any tanks. You don’t see any cannons. It’s about love. It’s people coming together.

Diane: About love. We’re gonna let everybody watch a bit of it.

Michael: Yeah, but it’s art! It’s art!

Diane: Okay.

Michael: Where a director…we get him to create art.

Lewis then says that the “777” on MJ’s arm is a reference to Aleister Crowley’s book “777”. Wrong again!   MJ was inspired by the Bible, and this is where the “777” comes from! This site has an explanation on the significance of the number “7”, and the video below explains it as well:

While we’re on the subject of creation, let’s look at what MJ thought about creationism! Here is an excerpt from “The Michael Jackson Tapes”, page 92:

Here are some interesting facts about MJ and the number “7”, and let me be clear about this: I’m NOT trying to say that MJ was a deity!

  • Conrad Murray was convicted of manslaughter on November 7th, 2011. That was the 7th day of the month, the 7th week of trial, and the word GUILTY begins with “G”, the 7th capital of the alphabet.
  • Michael Jackson signed his will on 7/7/02.
  • Michael Jackson’s memorial was on 7/7/09 … exactly 7 years after the will was signed.
  • Michael Jackson’s two biggest hits — “Black & White” and “Billie Jean” — were each #1 for 7 weeks.
  • Michael Jackson’s three biggest albums — “Thriller,” “Bad” and “Dangerous” — each produced 7 top 40 hits.
  • Michael Jackson was the 7th of 9 children.
  • 7 was Michael’s favorite number.
  • 7s and 11s are considered Godly numbers.
  • The courtroom was in department 107.
  • The jury deliberated for 10hrs and 7 minutes.
  • The verdict was read at 1:17pm LA time.
  • This post from the blog MJJ-777 also discusses MJ’s love of the number “7”.

He then goes on to say that “the next album he went a step further”, and shows the cover of “Dangerous”. But “Dangerous” was released in 1991, and “HIStory” was released in 1995! This may seem like a very “small error” when you look at the big picture, but it’s symptomatic of the myriad of small errors that add up to the large error that is this entire series! He claims that the album cover for “Dangerous” is filled with witchcraft, and that Aleister Crowley is featured on the cover, when in fact it is P.T. Barnum! He was the founder of the Ringling Bros. and Barnum and Bailey Circus, and was one of MJ’s many inspirations! Look at the “Dangerous” album cover below, and the actual photo of P.T. Barnum that MJ used for the album cover!

 

In fact, in his blog he even ADMITTED that it was P.T. Barnum on the cover!  That “mistake” was a sign of his sloppy research!  Yet he still stands by everything else he said!

Part V DVD, I mistakenly called PT Barnum, Aliester Crowley on Michael Jackson’s dangerous cover. My bad! But does that discount the fact that Michael and Barnum studied and utilized Aliester Crowley’s 777 book of the law and even put 777 on his sleeve when he created the statue? What about the dream demons, pedophilia, the Korybante behavior, the lyrics, etc? Should we throw the whole video away because I, G. Craige Lewis, am human and I made 1 mistake?

What’s truly disappointing is that he doesn’t acknowledge the positive, uplifting songs on the album such as “Heal The World”, “Gone Too Soon”, and “Keep The Faith”. He’s deliberately suppressing anything that goes against his message, and he’s no different than a sleazy used-car salesman who tries to sell you a lemon by not telling you about the repair history of that car!

He saved his most outrageous statement for last! He spoke out of both sides of his mouth by saying the following: “I’m not trying to accuse the man of what he did, but his album is telling me exactly what he did”, and he shows the “naked boy” on the cover of Dangerous, in order to imply that MJ was a child molester!  He says that “we don’t need rocket science to decode that message”!

For those of you who are reading this, and are not familiar with this blog, and not familiar with the child molestation allegations against MJ, let me give you a few posts that will get you up to speed and provide you with the facts behind the false charges:

1. Journalist Charles Thomson wrote this post which briefly summarizes the 1993 case, and criticizes the media’s biased coverage of the suicide of Evan Chandler, the father who false accused MJ of molesting his son.

2. Thetis7, one of the admins of this blog, wrote a meticulously researched, 3-part series aptly titled “HIStory vs. EVANstory” that discusses the 1993 case in much more detail, for those who want to know the complete story. Here is Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3.

3. In January 2005, just a few weeks before the start of the trial, a group of dedicated fans published an extensive report called “The Veritas Project”, and their motivation for doing so was their pure disgust at how inaccurate and biased the media was towards MJ in the months between his arrest and the start of the trial, so they decided to do their own research (similar to what we’re doing now with this blog), and the end result is phenomenal! Pay attention to the flowchart at the very end!

4. Charles Thomson wrote another excellent article on the 5 year anniversary of MJ’s acquittal titled “One of the Most Shameful Episodes In Journalistic History” that clearly and succinctly summarizes not only the complete joke of a trial, but the way the media deliberately suppressed exculpatory evidence in their desire to increase ratings and revenues by convicting MJ in the court of public opinion.

5. For an extensive summary of both the 1993 and 2005 allegations, as well as an analysis of how  mental illness affected the actions of those parents who coerced their children to lie and falsely accuse MJ, read this post titled “The Untold Story” on the Michael Jackson: Smoke Without Fire blog.

After reading each of those posts and learning all of the facts behind the cases, you will have 100% faith in Michael Jackson’s innocence, and not because of “reasonable doubt”, but because of ABSOLUTE DOUBT!

Most of the garbage from this series was inspired by the DVD “They Sold Their Souls For Rock N Roll”, which is a series that “exposes” popular music acts who promote Satanism.  They literally said that the “Thriller” video is demonic, and full of the occult, and is a symbol of the type of person that MJ really is (i.e. a demon in disguise). Just listen to how the narrator uses a dramatic, over the top tone of voice in order to present his “message” about MJ:

Of course they didn’t even bother to mention his disclaimer at the beginning of the video where he explicitly says he doesn’t endorse the occult!

Another pastor that I want to rebut now is Pastor Joe Schimmel, who helped research, produce, and distribute the documentary “They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll” , which was the foundation for much of G. Craig Lewis’ sermon on MJ.  When MJ’s “This Is It” was released in October 2009, Schimmel posted an article called “Michael Jackson and the Moral Decline of America”, in which he levels every insidious accusation and lie at MJ that you could imagine!

With the film release of “Michael Jackson: This Is It” on October 28, 2009, the King of Pop is still receiving idolatrous praise by many in the liberal media, despite the preponderance of evidence suggesting that he was a child rapist. Tragically, as we have learned through the Roman Polanski saga, if you have been anointed by the liberal media and have even a modicum of talent, they will give you a free pass to rape America’s children.

Stacy Brown, co-author of “Michael Jackson: The Man Behind the Mask,” illustrates how even fans who acknowledged Jackson’s guilt seemed to give Jackson a pass because he could sing and dance. Brown admits, “Let’s face it, I’m not one to believe that Michael was innocent of molesting children, but he was never convicted.” However, despite her belief that Jackson was guilty of child molestation, the star-struck Brown praises Michael Jackson as “Elvis, the Rolling Stones, Frank Sinatra, and the Beatles all rolled into one.” Should we place OJ Simpson on a pedestal because of his incredible running ability and conclude, “Let’s face it, I’m not one to believe that OJ was innocent of murdering people, but he was never convicted?”

The fact that so many Americans can easily ignore the horrific crimes that “stars” commit against our children is symptomatic of a culture that has been increasingly jaded by Darwinism, moral relativism, and Hollywood propaganda. While millions of dollars was enough to quiet parents whose children claimed that Jackson had molested them, many in the popular media cashed in by ignoring his alleged crimes and glorifying his bizarre persona.

New York Congressman, Peter King, sought to set the record straight and asked what glorifying a pervert like Michael Jackson says about us as a country. King said that Jackson, who is believed by most Americans to have been a child molester, is being glorified “day in and day out” while society completely ignores the efforts of teachers, police officers, firefighters, and veterans. “Let’s knock out the psychobabble,” King said, “he was a pervert, a child molester; he was a pedophile. And to be giving this much coverage to him, day in and day out, what does it say about us as a country?”

While one would expect some in an increasingly godless society to exalt a man who was known to sleep with young boys, it is tragic when those who claim to be spiritual leaders, ignore Jackson’s perverted lifestyle and speak of him as though he is now entertaining angels by doing the ‘moonwalk’ in Heaven. David Pack, a Grammy-award winning artist, music director, and a member of Saddleback Church, wrote in the Purpose Driven Connection, “One of the greatest artists of our time is now moon-walking along the gold paved roads of heaven, where streets have no name, with a broad smile on his face…”

This picture becomes even more disheartening when we consider the fact that Michael Jackson had a penchant for simulating sex on stage before thousands of boys and girls. When Oprah Winfrey asked Jackson why he repeatedly grabbed his crotch while on stage, he claimed that he had no control over his actions. If Jackson had a hard time controlling his sexually deviant inclinations under bright stage lights before tens of thousands of children, how could anyone in their right mind assume that he controlled himself in private with young boys in his bed?

To make matters worse, Jackson used his vast resources to transform Neverland Ranch into a magnet for children and a pedophile’s paradise. The entire ranch was designed to allure countless children onto his property and into his bed. Beyond the testimony of molestations by children Jackson shared his bed with, and the millions of dollars he gave these families to settle their lawsuits, there are other deeply disturbing facts as well. Michael Jackson also had an elaborate, specialized alarm system that alerted him anytime someone was near his bedroom, lest someone enter his room and interrupt his personal time with unsuspecting boys he found attractive. Add to this, the fact that investigators found risqué books in his room with pictures of naked boys and the picture becomes alarmingly clear.

Moreover, Jackson was known to have had homosexual relationships with other adult males as well. Ian Halperin, Jackson’s biographer, who authored Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson and claimed that Jackson had only six months to live, last December, stated, “In the course of my investigations, I spoke to two of his gay lovers, one a Hollywood waiter, the other an aspiring actor. The waiter had remained friends, perhaps more, with the singer until his death…. He had served Jackson at a restaurant, Jackson made his interest plain and the two slept together the following night.”

Halperin states that he was shown evidence of Jackson’s sexual relationship with the waiter, which included photographs of the gay lovers together. Halperin further stated, “When Jackson lived in Las Vegas, one of his closest aides told how he would sneak off to a ‘grungy, rat-infested’ motel – often dressed as a woman to disguise his identity – to meet a male construction worker he had fallen in love with.” (Online Source)

The absurd picture of Michael Jackson doing the moonwalk in heaven before the thrice-holy God, becomes even more insidious when we realize that Jackson engaged in Black Magic in an effort to murder several people that made his enemies’ list. In our Rockumentary, They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll, we document how Michael Jackson claimed that he was in touch with spirit entities and that he used a special room full of mirrors to commune with these spirits. Jackson claimed that he sought their guidance in regard to using their music. He even went so far as to claim that music was audibly communicated to him through dreams and that he was merely the messenger bringing these songs into the world.

In 2000, Vanity Fair reported that Jackson went so far as to bathe in blood and have a number of animals sacrificed so he could put death curses on Steven Spielberg and others. In the article, it was reported that Jackson attended a voodoo ritual in Switzerland, and a witch doctor named Baba sacrificed 42 cows as part of the death curse ceremony. Jackson ordered his former business adviser, Myung-Ho Lee, to wire $150,000 to a bank in Mali to cover the cost of the ceremony. The witch doctor promised Jackson that Spielberg, music mogul David Geffen, and 23 other people on Jackson’s hit list would die…but ironically, it was Michael Jackson himself who would end up dying a premature death! (Online Source)

As further evidence to Jackson’s occult practices, Michael claimed that a “force” that he referred to as a “spirit” would seize control of his body while he was performing. When we consider the fact that this “spirit” repeatedly compelled Jackson to grab his crotch before his young, adoring and impressionable fans, that he was involved in perverse behavior with children, and that he sought to harness dark spiritual forces to commit mass murder, it becomes evident that the destructive dark spirits that Jackson relied upon to influence the masses had nothing to do with the Holy Spirit of the Living God.

As the liberal media and Hollywood elitists continue to parade sexual deviants and drug addicts before our children and chip away at the moral foundation of our nation, it is imperative, now more than ever, that wise parents teach their children how to discern the difference between good and evil and train them up in “the way” they “should go.” (Proverbs 22:6)

If this is indicative of the trash that is written about MJ from some Christian “leaders”, then no wonder MJ is held in such low regard by some in the religious community!

As you can see, the article was filled with lies, half-truths, innuendoes, ad-hominem attacks, and other intellectual fallacies. (Notice how he referred to MJ as a “rapist”, which has a more violent connotation than molester. I’ll discuss this fallacy in greater detail later in this series.) He relied exclusively on ridiculous tabloid books and articles that aren’t even worth the paper that they’re printed on! This is what happens when you let your opinion dictate your research, instead of letting your research dictate your opinion!

The first book that he mentioned, “Michael Jackson: The Man Behind the Mask”, is a “tell all” book written by Bob Jones, who was MJ’s former manager. He was fired unceremoniously in 2004, and wrote the book out of revenge, and of financial gain. Stacy Brown is a co-author of the book, and he’s a former “friend” of the Jackson family. (With friends like him, who needs enemies?!!) The fact that Pastor Schimmel referes to Stacy as “she” is symptomatic of his abysmal lack of research! Here is a video of Brown offering his “analysis” of the trial as a paid analyst for MSNBC:

In that clip, he discussed the two jurors who voted to acquit MJ in June 2005, but did a 180 degree turnaround when they were offered money from book publishers to lie and say that MJ was really guilty. Some of the other jurors were also offered money, but rejected it. The two jurors lost their book deal when Stacy Brown was caught plagiarizing material from one of Maureen Orth’s Vanity Fair articles, and they sued to get out of their book deal. You can learn more about this debacle in this post.

Here is an excerpt from a summary Bob Jones’ trial testimony (on Day 29 of the trial), where he states that certain “facts” mentioned in his book were fabricated in order to make the book more sensational and salacious:

The extremely consistent pattern of prosecution witnesses having memory lapses continued as former Michael Jackson publicist Bob Jones initially testified that “I don’t recall ever seeing any head licking” by Mr. Jackson on the flight from Paris to Los Angeles.

Prosecutor Gordon Auchincloss then read a proposed passage from a book Jones is writing that stated that Mr. Jackson licked the boy’s head.

Prosecutors claim Mr. Jackson also licked the head of a boy who now accuses Mr. Jackson of molesting him in early 2003.

Bob Jones was fired by Mr. Jackson a year ago. Reportedly, Jones was very angry about the termination.

Under cross-examination by defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr., Jones said that passages he writes are completed by a co-writer, MSNBC correspondent, Stacy Brown, and then reviewed. Jones said he had not reviewed the passage and it was inaccurate. 

I will rip apart the testimony of Bob Jones and Stacy Brown, as well as fact check and rebut their book, in a future post.

Pastor Schimmel uses the ad hominem fallacy by falsely connecting MJ and OJ by implying that we will also ignore OJ’s conviction if he dies. This is one of the oldest tricks in the book: delegitimize MJ’s acquittal by comparing it to OJ Simpson, whose acquittal is arguably the most controversial in the history of the United States! But there is one COLASSAL difference between MJ and OJ: OJ is considered guilty by many based on the overwhelming amount of inculpatory evidence, and NOT because of the way he looks, or his personality. MJ is considered guilty by many based on the way he looks, and his personality, and NOT because of the evidence!  (By the way, notice how the OJ prosecutors refused to use honest witnesses who had sold their stories to tabloids, but the MJ prosecutors relied heavily on dishonest witnesses who had sold their stories to tabloids! I’ll discuss this later in this series.)

One of the biggest misconceptions of MJ is that he “forced” children to sleep in his bed without their parent’s permission, and that’s not true at all! His “bedroom” was actually a two-story duplex that is larger than most apartments! Although he had guest units, oftentimes entire families would want to sleep in his duplex because they wanted to be around him. If the children of his guests wanted to sleep in his duplex, they had to get their parents’ permission.  Here are videos of Macaulay Culkin and MJ’s attorney Thomas Mesereau clarifying the media’s myths about this issue:

(Culkin’s defense of MJ begins at 2:25)

You can listen to this interview from JC Agajanian, a close friend of MJ, where he also debunks the “MJ forced kids to sleep with him” myth. Also, read this post and this post for more information on the truth about MJ’s bed sharing.

Pastor Schimmel goes on to call Neverland a “pedophile’s paradise”.  The reality is that Neverland was built as a place for MJ to live in peace (as he couldn’t go anywhere without being mobbed!), and as a place for disadvantaged and terminally ill children, AND THEIR FAMILIES, to visit to have a good time and enjoy themselves, all at MJ’s expense.  Children were not “lured” there; they BEGGED to go there! And when they did go there, they were always accompanied by Neverland staff, their families, and their chaperones!

Here is a press release from the Make A Wish Foundation, which grants “wishes” to terminally ill children, such as visiting their favorite celebrities. This press release was issued shortly after MJ was arrested in November 2003 because they were bombarded with questions about whether they had “delivered” MJ’s accuser to him and left him unattended:

Make-A-Wish Foundation Responds to Allegations Regarding Connection Between Foundation and Michael Jackson Case

PHOENIX, November 22 /PRNewswire/ — Over the past two days, numerous media sources have asserted that there is a connection between the alleged child victim in the Michael Jackson case and the Make-A-Wish Foundation(R). Although the actual identity of the victim is not known to the public or the Foundation, the Foundation believes very strongly that it is virtually impossible that the incident in question could have occurred as part of a Make-A-Wish(R) experience.

“The health and safety of our wish children are our highest priority – especially given the fact that each child we serve is diagnosed with a life-threatening medical condition,” said Paula Van Ness, president & chief executive officer for the Make-A-Wish Foundation of America. “For every wish we grant, we work closely with the family, and in all cases parents and siblings directly share in the experience.

Often times with celebrity wishes, they are fulfilled as part of a larger group of wish children and families. In no instance is a Make-A-Wish child left unattended during the course of one of our wishes. Based on this, we believe that the child in question in the Michael Jackson case could not have been at Neverland as a participant in a Make-A-Wish experience.”

Van Ness continued, “Since the Foundation is the largest wish-granting organisation in the world, we understand how someone might attribute the experience of a cancer patient at Neverland to us. However, we are aware of more than 200 wish-granting organisations in existence throughout the world, and we know that our wish children often receive wishes from more than one organisation. I can’t speak for other organisations, but I firmly believe that given the circumstances, this could not have resulted from one of our wish experiences.”

Of the more than 11,000 wishes the Foundation grants each year, fewer than 6 per cent (approximately 600) involve children seeking wishes to meet a celebrity. Since 1995, the Foundation has coordinated two Neverland-related group wish experiences for a total of 13 children and their families. In every case, the Make-A-Wish children were joined at Neverland by numerous children from other organisations; took part in a same-day, outdoor festival; were accompanied at all times by members of their family and Make-A-Wish personnel; and left the Neverland property the same day.

Another person who has first-hand knowledge of the daily happenings at Neverland is, ironically, Stacy Brown!  Shortly after MJ’s arrest, Brown initially defended MJ against the allegations by refuting the misconception that MJ spent excessive amounts of time with the children of strangers, which was bolstered by the fact that the media would always replay footage of MJ playing with children at Neverland, but oftentimes they were his own nieces and nephews! It’s too bad he took blood money to trash MJ by writing his aforementioned “tell all” book with Bob Jones!

Jackson Family Concerned Not Just For Michael, Friend Says

In the wake of Michael Jackson’s surrender and arrest, his family members are just as outraged as he is about the molestation charges.

Their concern, a family friend said, extends not just to the superstar, but also to the littlest ones within their extensive clan, whom they say are sometimes misrepresented as supposed “evidence” to show that the singer has an unhealthy interest in young children. Granted, Jackson does invite children other than his own to visit Neverland, but much of the time, the children shown at the singer’s side are actually family.

“[Michael] has 27 nieces and nephews,” said family friend Stacy Brown, who has often acted as a liaison between the Jackson family and the media. “And a lot of times, what people don’t understand and are never told is that a lot of those kids [seen photographed and videotaped with him] are his nieces and nephews. They go to the ranch, they go to Neverland quite often, and are with their uncle often and love him. And he loves them.”

But he can’t protect them from the vast amount of media coverage of this latest scandal. Since many of them are grade-school age — and attend public school — they can’t easily be shielded from the reports.

“It’s horrible,” Brown said. “They have to hear, they have to be teased and hear lewd comments about a close family member. And even some of this, they hear it from the teachers. It’s not right.”

Brown said the family’s concern — besides supporting Jackson — is how to explain the whole drama to the kids. He said one nephew in particular, who is “very very distraught,” keeps asking him, “Why are they doing this to him?”

Pastor Schimmel goes on to use MJ’s  bedroom alarms to fool his readers into thinking that MJ had devious intentions to have them, but in fact they were a safety measure that helped exonerate him in 2005!

First, let’s read what Macaulay’s father Kit had to say about those bedroom  alarms in his book “Lost Boy”. From page 48:

What the child molestation charges of 1993 did, perhaps above all else, were to insist that Michael forever thereafter, as to everything that he would ever do in life, be viewed solely through a lens of pedophilia. I’ll give but a single “for instance”; one that goes to the well-reported on alarm system just outside Michael’s bedroom and the so-called “secret room” actually in that bedroom.  Michael, remember, is a Scardey-Cat, which isn’t to say that there weren’t times when perhaps he had just cause to be so

Take the helicopters that would buzz Neverland on a daily basis (indeed, often several times a day). One could hear their approach over and above the crackling speech on security walkie-talkies, which always attempted to give their positions (“Moving Northeast. Eleven O’Clock. Two Hundred Feet. Copy.”); this before their actual arrival, which could be perfectly deafening. It always gave one the sense that an invasion was taking place. So bad and so frequent did these visits become as to cause Michael at one point to make in-depth inquiries regarding the purchase of the air space directly above this property (such as Manhattan real-estate tycoons are allowed); solicitations which only led to his being told thatlocal zoning laws did not allow for this.  Many of these helicopters contained (none-too-surprisingly) “ladies and gentlemen of the press”, who (we should all well know) have an absolute license under the First Article of the Bill of Rights (also known as the First Amendment to the United States Constitution), to do pretty much as they please, no matter how much it may infringe upon an individual’s right to the pursuit of happiness in the privacy of his or her own home. American freedom, after all, depends on it (the media themselves will tell you this); and it is a license that, when it is not our own personal pursuit and our own personal privacy that is at risk, we all perfectly relish! But, be this as it shamefully may, others of these whirly-bird attack squads were not made up of such “girls and boys”, but rather of the merely curious; folks who would gladly pay for a helicopter rid who’s tour included as its centerpiece the buzzing of Michael’s home.

To Michael the Scardey-Cat they all represented the specter of hooded terrorists, dressed as perfect ninjas, skidding down ropes onto the property, the better to commit “The Kidnapping of the Century”; and even though (in perfect hindsight) none of this ever did occur, there were other times when no less benign incidents would only go to feed this fear.  Take the morning when Michael arose and walked into his private garden, there to find a fan crouched in the bushes; a fan “fanatical” enough (for so comes the word) to enter the property and scale the wall and spend the night there (Can anyone yet remember the just who and the just where of John Lennon’s murder?!).  That Michael would respond to such as this by actually outfitting his bedroom with a relatively conspicuous store-bought beam alarm system (one that the entire cleaning staff knew existed and that could be simply stepped over), as well as with a so-called “secret room” (really a closet) to which he could run in times of such emergency should not surprise anyone; indeed, these are things that under like circumstances most any of us would do. But when viewed through the lens of pedophilia, the existence of these could only have a far more sinister purpose. And that (and all like unto it) was Michael’s problem in a nutshell, and here was little that Michael could thereafter ever do about it. It was the bell that couldn’t be un-rung. It was the genie who wouldn’t return to the bottle.

So as you can see, Kit offered a completely rational explanation for the bedroom alarms! Michael tried to make Neverland a “no-fly zone” by attempting to purchase the airspace, but was unable to, and as a result helicopters had free access to fly overhead. Even worse, for a fan to get past all of the security and hide in MJ’s garden must have been an absolutely terrifying experience for MJ (or for anyone, for that matter), and MJ had a right to take precautions to protect his privacy.  This disproves the media’s theory that MJ had it installed for nefarious reasons!

Now, let’s see how the bedroom alarms helped exonerate MJ in 2005! Star Arvizo claimed that he witnessed MJ molest Gavin on several occasions by walking in on the act, but wouldn’t MJ have known that Star was approaching when he heard the alarms? Sneddon argued that the volume of the alarm was turned down during that period of time, and thus MJ wasn’t able to hear it.  But defense witness Larry Nimmer (a professional videographer who was hired to film Neverland after Judge Melville refused to allow jurors to tour the property) totally debunked that theory by performing a test where he placed his camera in MJ’s upper chamber (where the molestation allegedly happened), and he had a maid activate the alarm by entering MJ’s living quarters, and by doing this he demonstrated how loud and audible the alarm was, thus destroying Sneddon’s claim. Nimmer included this test in his documentary “The Untold Story of Neverland”, which is available on the DVD that I purchased, but is mysteriously missing from the shortened version that is available on youtube (otherwise, I would have surely included it here! If anyone finds it, please let us know!)

Both Nimmer and Maria Gomez (the maid) explained their test on the witness stand, and for more details please read this article.

Another person who defended the bedroom alarms was, ironically, Adrian McManus, one of the “Neverland 5” employees who lost a multi-million dollar lawsuit against MJ and to this day owes him $1.4 million dollars.  She was fired from Neverland for theft prior to the allegations, and then sold lies to the tabloids about witnessing MJ molest young boys, including Macaulay Culkin.  Former employee Francine Contreras testified against McManus’ character by describing the display at McManus’ home of pilfered items from Neverland, including toys that were meant to be given to needy children! (Have you no shame, Adrian? How low can you go?)

During her cross examination, she was presented with a transcript of her 1994 deposition, where she defended the bedroom alarms by stating the following:  “When you’re a celebrity, you lead a difficult life.  People kill celebrities.  That little sensor benefits him for his life.” That quote and others made by McManus can be seen @ 4:36 in the following video which is part of the series “What did happen to Michael Jackson” by LunaJo67, a fellow MJ advocate.

Here is the actual test that defense witness and filmographer Larry Nimmer conducted on the bedroom alarms to prove that they worked properly, and to prove that Star was lying about walking into MJ’s bedroom and watching MJ masturbate his brother Gavin without MJ’s knowledge!

The two children’s books that Pastor Schimmel describes, as well as MJ’s art collection, which were both used by prosecutors as evidence of MJ’s homosexuality and lust for young boys, were thoroughly examined in our 6 part series “Porn” Found in Michael Jackson’s Home. The word porn is in quotes to sarcastically show the absurdity of the prosecutor’s theory that MJ’s art collection was used as homosexual erotica!

The second book that the pastor clings to in order to support his prejudices is the tabloid book “Unmasked” The Final Years of Michael Jackson”.  The author of the book is tabloid book author Ian Halperin, who has written unauthorized biographies on such celebrities as Arnold Schwarzenegger, Brad Pitt, and Kurt Cobain.  Halperin was inspired to write a book about MJ after his acquittal in 2005, where he felt that MJ should have been convicted, based on his exclusive reliance of the mainstream media for information on the case. As he explains in the video below, he was so shocked and angered by the acquittal that he dedicated 5 years to researching the truth, with the purpose of finally nailing MJ, but guess what conclusion he was forced to upon evaluating the facts of the cases? MICHAEL JACKSON WAS COMPLETELY INNOCENT!

Please ignore everything he says after first minute because he goes on to talk about being “contacted” by people in MJ’s camp about their concerns over MJ’s health, which is totally false. I personally believe that when he was unable to objectively prove that MJ was guilty of child abuse, his publisher told him to sensationalize the book to make it interesting, and he acquiesced by claiming that he worked undercover in MJ’s inner circle, that MJ was a homosexual who would meet his male lovers in motels, and other nonsense.  This book was panned throughout the fan community due to its glaring lies and half-truths, and it added no new exculpatory information that wasn’t already available to fans from far more legitimate sources, such as the books by Aphrodite Jones or Geraldine Hughes (Michael Jackson Conspiracy and Redemption, respectively).

Notice how he used the word “unwaveringly”, which means that his position that MJ is innocent will never change. He is absolutely convinced that MJ was falsely accused, maliciously prosecuted, and rightfully acquitted.

This is one of the most egregious examples of the “cherry-picking” fallacy that I have ever seen! Cherry-picking is described as follows:

The act of pointing to individual cases or data that seems to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position.

If he had even skimmed through Halperin’s book, he would have known that MJ was thoroughly exonerated of the allegations, but of course that would undermine the premise of his article, so that important piece of information was ignored! Similary, if he had read Stacy Brown’s book, he would have known that Brown is a man, and not a woman!

Lastly, Pastor Schimmel clings to “investigative journalist” Maureen Orth, who we all know is a paragon of truth when it comes to Michael Jackson.  Orth’s articles are essentially tabloid garbage that is published in a mainstream magazine, thus giving them more credibility than they ever would have gotten.  She relied on unscrupulous ex-employees, people who were involved in lawsuits with MJ and had an axe to grind, biased law enforcement officials who were more interested in getting Jackson convicted then seeking true justice, and a host of other “unnamed sources”.  In that particular article, she used Myung-Ho Lee as a named source (which is rare for her), and he was mired in a frivolous against MJ at the time that he spoke with her. In fact, he’s the same person who lied and said he saw MJ plying a young boy with alcohol, and the video I embedded earlier in this post clearly proved that Lee lied about that story!

So all in all, you can see that Pastor Schimmel’s negative view of MJ was reinforced by those 3 pieces of biased, tabloid information, and that is typical of how MJ haters operate.  That post of his wasn’t worth the paper it’s printed on!

Here are just a few more examples of the hatred and bigotry that has been spewed at MJ from the religious community. If I wrote a rebuttal to everything negative that I’ve read or heard about MJ, this series would be 100 parts long! So I’ll post these last few tidbits of information for your viewing and listening pleasure! You’ll be able to get a small portion of the junk that is out there about MJ, but remember this: in no way, shape, or form is this representative of the religious community! These men and women only speak for themselves, and in Part 5 of this series I will include lots of examples of people of faith who have defended MJ.

1. On June 19th, 2005, a week after MJ’s acquittal (and on Father’s Day), this pastor preached a sermon called “Michael Jackson or Man of God” (as if the two are mutually exclusive!). In this sermon, he calls MJ a “freak of nature”, and the congregation laughs and says “Amen!” It’s purely disgusting. He calls MJ a “girly man”, the worst father he can think of, he would have saved the taxpayer’s a lot of money had he just surrendered, and he’s worried that children think that MJ fits “the concept of a man”. And of course he had to rely on the words of Ray Hultman, who as we all know said that he thought MJ was guilty in 1993, but that there wasn’t enough evidence to convict him in this case. He implies that MJ is proof of the moral decline in America, and he isn’t “masculine enough” to be a Man of God.  You can listen to the sermon here. He mentions MJ at 18:00-22:00, 23:00, 28:00, 33:00, 36:12, 41:28, 44:30, at 45:20 (in this last part, he says that God will say “Guilty!” to MJ when he dies.)

Since he mentioned that MJ should have just turned himself in, let’s look at what his “confession” would have looked like! This is based 100% from the prosecution’s evidence and timeline!

Hi, I’m Michael Jackson, the most selective pedophile in the world. While most child molesters have hundreds of victims, I have a one boy every ten year average. The thing is, I’m only attracted to kids who have greedy, lawsuit-happy parents. Remember back in 1993? Let me refresh your memory.

Evan Chandler, the father of my first victim, demanded $20 million in return for his silence. I had every intention of paying him off eventually but I decided to let him turn me in first. I figured it would be fun to be publicly humiliated, strip searched, investigated by the police and all that other great stuff that comes along with being accused of sexual abuse. There was that little problem of going to jail but luckily for me, I came up with this brilliant plan to pay the boy not to testify (gee, what a concept! I wish I’d thought of this when Evan Chandler first tried to blackmail me). It seems, however, that there’s a typo in the settlement document because apparently it says that the boy and his family could have still testified against me in a criminal trial… WHOOPS!

Even though my stupid lawyers messed up my witness tampering plan, I still got off because the kid didn’t want to testify against me in the criminal trial. Neither did his parents; it seems that once they got their paycheck, the Chandlers no longer felt it was necessary to get justice for their poor molested son. Talk about good luck, huh? The first boy I decided to molest just happened to have parents who were willing to prostitute their kid. Evan even asked a judge to allow him to release an album of songs about the abuse. Cool, huh? That Evan Chandler is a great guy.

For the next ten years I went cold turkey. That all changed after a little documentary called “Living with Michael Jackson” aired. I knew the kid who was shown on the documentary for almost two years and never touched him until after I paraded him around on national television and talked about our innocent, non-sexual sleepovers. Then everybody started saying that something sexual was going on and I thought, “Hey that’s not a bad idea. But shit, he’ll probably turn me in if I molest him so lemme hire a lawyer first.” Then I called Mark Geragos and asked him to defend me in a crime that I hadn’t committed yet.

Once I had the right legal representation, everything was set. The family and I were still on friendly terms at this point but I kidnapped them all, stole their furniture and forced them to say nice things about me on camera. Why did I go to all that trouble? Well, I wanted to improve my image after the Martin Bashir documentary aired (don’t ask how the furniture fits into all of this). For some reason, however, I didn’t include the footage of the family in my rebuttal video to Bashir’s documentary… kinda defeats the purpose of my kidnapping scheme, huh? After getting their statements on tape, I then molested the boy even though the whole point of the conspiracy was to convince the world that I wasn’t a child molester. Wrap your head around that one.

Now you’re probably thinking I’m a total asshole at this point but I swear, I wasn’t that bad to the family. I bought them gifts, gave them my credit cards, allowed them to go on shopping sprees, let them visit their civil lawyers – how many other child molesting kidnappers extend such priviliges to their victims? Shit, I even let the mother phone a friend and everything. From what I hear she actually told her friend – let’s call him Jamie Masada – that I was holding her against her will. Hey, don’t look at me. It’s not my fault that the idiot didn’t bother contacting the police.

Anyway, things were going according to my plan until I found out the Department of Children and Family Services and the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department were going to launch an investigation. Luckily, my entire staff knew about what was going on, accompanied the kid to his interview and intimidated him into saying nothing was wrong. For some reason, the DCFS and the SBCSD didn’t pick up on the fact that the family was being held hostage. Strange huh? Oh well, in the words of my man Tom Sneddon, “it’s LA, what do you expect?” Wait a minute… his department investigated too. Ah, whatever, either way I was cleared of any wrongdoing. Although it was a close call, I decided to molest the kid after being investigated by authorities. Makes sense, right?

My plan hit another glitch when the family escaped from Neverland. For whatever reason, they didn’t go to the police after their great escape (phew) and I was even able to talk them into coming back. I then came up with a cunning plan to ship them off to Brazil to prevent them from speaking with authorities once I was finished molesting the boy… you know, because there is no way of contacting the Santa Barbara Police Department all the way from Brazil.

There was still the possibility, however, that the family might come across a telephone or a computer in Brazil (a bit far-fetched, I know) so I got Geragos to force the whole family into signing more documents that say I didn’t do anything wrong. So basically, my entire staff, Mark Geragos, the DCFS, the SBCSD and all of my friends and family members who visited the ranch during that time period are also to blame. This was a mass conspiracy that was designed just so I could molest this poor boy and steal his mother’s furniture.

Yep, the prosecution’s case makes perfect sense…

NOTE: While this page is supposed to be satirical, the above scenario is solely based on information that has come from the prosecution’s side. Seriously.

2. On July 7th, 2009, the day of MJ’s memorial, this pastor named God posted a video titled “10 Reasons Why Michael Jackson’s Life and Death Matter”, where he dedicates 21 minutes to judging MJ and using his life as an “example” of how not to live.  I called that pastor God because he surely acted like Him in this video! It wasn’t enough for him to preach a sermon on MJ; no! He had to film a video in a cemetery, and publish it on the day of MJ’s memorial just rub salt in everyone’s wounds!  The 10 reasons he gives are #1: Idolatry (MJ worshipped himself and music, and not God), #2. All men are mortal (MJ lived for his own glory, and was filled with plastic surgery), #3. The love of money is the root of all evil (MJ worshipped money and lived as a king, but is now a prisoner of darkness and is “singing a different tune”), #4. Fallen man self-destructs (MJ got stranger, weirder, and more miserable as he got older), #5. MJ’s life was a wasted life! (This is got to be the most outrageous, insensitive, and judgmental statement made about MJ in this entire series!), #6. MJ’s life was a vacuum because he obviously didn’t know God due to his weirdness , #7. MJ was judged by God (and he seemed absolutely sure of this!), #8. Because so many people loved MJ, there’s no way he could be in Heaven, #9. Life is short, and #10. MJ was just another man.  It’s too bad he wasn’t willing to allow comments on his video. Probably couldn’t handle dissenting opinions, or people questioning him and telling him that he’s wrong about MJ!

What’s most disturbing is the total lack of compassion for MJ’s mourning family, or any mention of his tremendous philanthropy! This video is indicative of the “MJ wouldn’t have been weird and would have been a Gospel artist if he had known God” mentality that is so prevalent by many in the religious community.

3. Here is a list of quotes from Pastor Bob Enyart about Michael Jackson throughout the years. He has an extensive track record of hateful rhetoric towards people he views as “immoral” in his self-righteous eyes, such as reading the names of AIDS victims on his television show and calling them “sodomites”.  As you can see from the list below, Enyart follows the same playbook as Pastor Schimmel; they both cherry pick tabloids to reinforce their own negative opinions on MJ, and feed it to their gullible followers. His reliance on Latoya’s ex-“husband” Jack Gordon is an all-time low for MJ haters! By the way, to add insult to injury, this list was posted on the day of MJ’s memorial! My commentary is in red.

* Michael Jackson was a homosexual child molester.” Bob Enyart, Denver radio, KGOV.com. (No he wasn’t! Enyart is using an ad hominen attack to prejudice his listeners against MJ by saying he’s homosexual, as if this is worse than being a heterosexual child molester! Read this post to see examples of how the “MJ is gay” myth has been used against him ever since the 1970’s!)  

* Michael Jackson LiedVanity Fair (Sept. 1995) reported Santa Barbara district attorney Tom Sneddon’s disclosure that Michael Jackson lied when he claimed that no marks on his genitals linked him with his young accuser’s charges. “His statement on TV is untrue.” Sneddon indicated that a police photo taken by search warrant corroborated the accuracy of the boy’s drawing of a spot on Jackson’s privates. (So if Jordan’s description matched, then why wasn’t MJ arrested and charged? Why couldn’t Sneddon use the photos to secure a grand jury indictment? Why did he change the description when he tried to use the photos to prejudice the 2005 jury? Read this post for information that proves that Jordan’s description DID NOT MATCH!)

* Jackson’s Book of Nude BoysUSA Today reported (Aug. 7, 1995) another Jackson lie when he claimed that “nothing” was found in the cop’s search linking him to child molestation. In truth, the police found a book of nude boys, “the sort of book that has been linked to pedophiles,” in the room of a man who admittedly shares his bed with young boys. (More media lies! We did a series of posts on MJ’s art collection, which Sneddon tried to say was gay and child erotica that was used to sexually gratify MJ, and that couldn’t be further from the truth!)

* Jackson Lied About Other Accusers: Michael Jackson lied saying that no other children had come forward to accuse him, when in truth he was negotiating a $22 million settlement with another boy. Jackson defenders forget that predators sometimes target victims in families who will garner little credibility or sympathy. (The settlement was with Jason Francia, who I will obliterate in Part 4 of this series. It was for only $2.4 million, and only to protect MJ’s image from being further sullied, and not because it was a sign of guilt! Jason’s mother Blanca blackmailed MJ by threatening to file a civil lawsuit in 1995, right before the release of his HIStory album. Because the settlement was confidential, MJ could not admit to it. Read this post for more information on the Francia and Chandler settlements.)

* BEL Presents Three Items to the District Attorney: on May 29, 2005 the Santa Barbara D.A.’s office thanked Bob Enyart Live for bringing the following to their attention, although clearly these did not help their criminal prosecution any:

1. Jackson, a Boy, and a Homosexual Reporter: A page from In Touch, a popular homosexual magazine, was broadcast on the nationally syndicated TV show Bob Enyart Live presenting a clear photograph taken prior to the public accusations against Jackson showing him at a “gay” vacation spot with one arms around homosexual reporter Alan Light and his other arm around a young boy. (MJ did not even KNOW the reporter! He merely posed for the photo because he wanted to be kind to a fan, and that’s it! The young boy in the photo is Jimmy Safechuck, with whom MJ was friends with, as well as his family! They met during the recording of a Pepsi commercial, and you can see the photo here.)

2. Jackson Anger’s His Special Friend: A nationally broadcast news report in the 1990s showed video of Michael Jackson in a London toy store, closed down for him to bring a young boy shopping. The clip showed Jackson touching the boy to show him a toy, and the boy pulled away from Jackson, seemingly not wanting to be touched by his benefactor. (I have no idea what video he is talking about, and I couldn’t find it on YouTube, but whatever it is, it is surely being blown out of proportion by Enyart, who is clearly grasping at straws, trying to use  ANYTHING to make MJ look bad. Pathetic.)

3. 1991 Super Bowl Half Time Show – with scores of children around him and millions watching, Michael Jackson grabbed his crotch and thrust his hips toward the cameras. An office worker during lunch who grabbed his genitals and thrusted his midsection toward a secretary would be charged with sexual harassment by quitting time. A man doing this with twelve-year olds around him is even more of a pervert. (And he did this at nearly everyone one of his concerts. So what? That was part of his dance routine. I wonder if Enyart also believes that NFL cheerleaders who perform sexually provactive dances are also perverts? Once again, another attempt at grasping at straws!)

* Lisa Marie Defends Jackson: like a kiss of death, on Prime Time Live Michael Jackson and his investment-partner-wife Lisa Marie Presley both insisted that young boys had the right to be in Michael’s bathroom with him. (No, she did not say that! She said that she saw children who were so excited to be around MJ that they would follow him everywhere, including the bathroom! MJ never allowed any children to use the bathroom with him, or shower with him! And they’re marriage was real, too! Who is Enyart to say that it was fake, when almost 50% of all marriages end in divorce? In fact, her next marriage to actor Nicholas Cage lasted a measly 108 days! They married in August 2002, and filed for divorce in November 2002, and the divorce was finalized in May 2004. The divorce proceedings lasted longer than the marriage, so I wonder why Enyart and his ilk never questions their marriage as being a sham?)

* NAMBLA Exploits Jackson’s Child Molestation: in the mid-1990s the North American Man Boy Love Association ran a newsletter cover story celebrating the results of their own informal poll showing that a significant percent of the general public would still admire Michael Jackson, even if it were proved conclusively that he sexually molested young boys. By NAMBLA’s analysis, in Europe and America Michael Jackson was helping to undermine the taboo against sex with children (click and search for: Milk). (MJ has no control over what real perverts and predators feel about him, and if they want to “use” him as a role model to help promote their agenda, then that is THEIR problem, and it has nothing to do with MJ, and shouldn’t be used against him.)

* Dianne Sawyer erred – ‘Jackson cleared’ of all charges: according to the district attorney the police were waiting for “somebody to come forward” who had not been bribed into silence, Vanity Fair (Sept. 1995). (While MJ certainly was never “cleared”, its important to note that he was never arrested and charged in the first place! The only reason Sneddon and Garcetti kept the case open until the statute of limitations ran out is because they were embarrassed by not being able to prosecute MJ, and wanted to save face and look tough in the court of public opinion!)

* Jackson’s Own Sister: was one of the first to indicate that her brother Michael had paid huge sums to silence accusations. (Yes, she did admit this in her infamous press conference in December 1993, but she retracted her lies years later, and MJ and the Jackson family forgave her.)

* LaToya Jackson’s Husband: LaToya’s former spouse Jack Gordon stated that Michael took a nice young boy into his bedroom, and that the two stayed in there for five days, and when they came out, the kid had turned into a different kid and seemed very disturbed. (Jack Gordon is a certified fraud and liar, and he has no credibility whatsoever. He threatened Latoya to give that aformention press conference in order to sell her story to tabloids who were willing to pay six or seven figures for any dirt on MJ. The fact that Enyart is relying on such an unreliable source whose “facts” have not been vetted is typical.)

* Jackson’s Personal Chauffeur: stated that he drove Michael Jackson to the home of one of his accusers for all-night sleepovers, thirty days in a row. (We have debunked the “MJ slept with Jordan Chandler or 30 days in a row” myth in this post.)

* Jackson’s Personal BodyguardJerome Johnson said that Michael Jackson had one particular sleepover with four kids. Johnson also stated that if anyone interrupted Michael during a sleepover with boys, that person would be fired. -Hollywood private investigator Don Crutchfield told Bill O’Reilly on Feb. 13, 2003. Various media outlets hired Crutchfield to research Michael Jackson and he wrote the book: Confessions of a Hollywood PI. (Once again, Enyart is relying on a tabloid book filled with lies from disgruntled ex-employees for information. Jerome Johnson worked at Neverland in the early 90’s, and he defended MJ when the Chandler debacle hit the news. He also blasted the Neverland 5 for their frivolous lawsuit, but all of a sudden he “flipped” and said he could “no longer lie for MJ”. He submitted an official declaration – and not a deposition – supporting the Neverland 5’s lawsuit, but some incriminating evidence against him soon found its way into court! He tried to extort $7 million dollars from MJ by having his wife, who was a banker, type a letter demanding payment by January 24, 1996! The judge in the civil trial had all of the defendants take a DNA test to determine who licked the envelope that contained the letter, and Jerome’s wife was determined to be the one! Jerome plead the Fifth and refused to testify against MJ, thus destroying any chance that the Neverland 5 might win their lawsuit. And this is the guy that Enyart has put his “faith” in! What a joke!)

* Jackson’s Head of Security: Bill Brey was overheard by bodyguard Jerome Johnson telling Michael Jackson that he had to lie to help cover up Michael’s behavior with boys. O’Reilly Factor, Feb. 13, 2003. (Same as above.)

* Jackson’s Own Estate Manager:, Mariano Quindoy, estate manager of the Neverland Ranch, said that Michael Jackson often lured children ages 7 to 12 into his bedroom to engage them in “gay sex.” Quindoy stated this in a nationally broadcast interview in his native Philippines and it was reported by The Philippines Inquirer and World Net Daily. (Same as above, except you can replace “Jerome Johnson” with “Mariano Quindoy”. They’re both ex-employees who tried to make money by lying about MJ, and the tabloids were oh so willing to pay up!)

* Jackson Himself Defends Boys in His Bed: Michael Jackson answered CBS News, “Why not?” when asked whether he sleeps with children in his bed and admitted on film to British broadcaster Martin Bashir that he liked to share his bed with boys in pajamas. (MJ did NOT say he liked to share his bed with boys “in pajamas”. He said it’s OK if he gives his bed to a child, and he would sleep on the floor.)
* Jackson’s Personal Maid: stated that she occasionally saw Michael Jackson in the bathroom and in his bedroom when he was in various stages of undress, with a young boy, in bed, and even in the same sleeping bag. (He’s referring to Blanca Francia. She will be discredited in Part 4 of this series, so stay tuned!)

* BEL Phone Call to Jackson Attorney’s Office: Listen to today’s show to hear a re-broadcast of Bob’s phone call placed to Jackson’s attorney’s office on the very day that Mark Geragos threatened to sue anyone who “besmirched Michael Jackson’s reputation.” Here’s the transcript of that call with Geragos’ secretary: (This is more grandstanding on Enyart’s part in order to entertain his listeners.)

Secretary: This is Joselyn.

Enyart: Hi Joselyn, this is Bob Enyart Live in Denver. We’re on the radio right now – AM 670 KLTT. And we’re responding to Mark Geragos. He said today that if anyone does anything to besmirch Michael Jackson’s reputation, that he’d be on them like a ton of bricks. And we wanted to know if Mark has any guidelines, if we could figure out what we can do to qualify to be a ‘besmircher?’

Secretary: You know, I really don’t know and Mark’s not in right now. I can get a message over to him if you want.

Enyart: Alright, if you could just let him know that at Bob Enyart Live in Denver that we were broadcasting that Michael Jackson is a homosexual child molester and if that qualifies that it would be great for him to get in touch with us.

Secretary: I’ll let him know.

Enyart: Alright, thank you.
* Jackson’s Long-time Friend Now Admits: After Jackson’s death, British millionaire Terry George has acknowledged thatwhen he was only 13 years old, during his extended friendship with young adult Michael Jackson, that the celebrity talked sexually to him, and claimed to be performing a sex act during one of his conversations with this young boy. (George is one of the “phantom victims” of MJ who we thoroughly debunked in this post.)

* Two of Jackson’s Jurors Regret Aquittal: As reported by the Associated Press, in a preview shown on NBC’s Today, talk host Rita Cosby asked Eleanor Cook if the other jurors will be angry with her and Ray Hultman. Cook answered, “They can be as angry as they want to, they ought to be ashamed, they’re the ones that let a pedophile go.” (Here is the post that we did that describes how those two jurors were paid to lie and write a book saying MJ was really guilty, but they lost their book deal when they were caught using plagairized material from Maureen Orth’s Vanity Fair hit pieces. Ironically, Hultman offered MJ his condelences upon hearing the news of his death, so that shows how much of a turnaround he had since the end of the trial! Would he have done that if he really felt that MJ was guilty? I don’t think so!)
Note: Michael Jackson defender Ian Halperin wrote in London’s Daily Mail, “It is clear to me that Michael was homosexual and that his taste was for young men, albeit not as young as Jordan Chandler or Gavin Arvizo. In the course of my investigations, I spoke to two of his gay lovers, one a Hollywood waiter, the other an aspiring actor… Other witnesses speak of strings of young men visiting his house at all hours, even in the period of his decline… in Las Vegas, one of his closest aides told how he would sneak off… to meet a male construction worker he had fallen in love with.” For 3,500 years Judeo-Christian legal history has outlawed homosexual behavior. About one third of all children sexually molested are boys, and over ninety percent of those boys are hurt by men. (If you, the reader, are in rebellion against God and you don’t care about children, then ignore the previous sentence.) Every man molesting a boy is committing a homosexual act. America’s founding fathers held sodomy to be a crime, and every state outlawed the behavior. The decriminalization of homosexuality in the late 20th century has led to the tortured deaths of millions of its victims worldwide. If you love your neighbor, you’ll warn him that God made us male and female. (Once again, Enyart is cherry picking his sources to include only what fits his preconceived biases against MJ. Just as Pastor Schimmel did above in his post, Enyart completely ignores Halperin’s exoneration of MJ for the false allegations, and instead focuses on homosexuality because he can use it to paint MJ in a negative light to his socially conservative audience who overwhelmingly oppose homosexuality on religious grounds.)

To be continued…………………….

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  1. December 10, 2015 5:09 pm

    “it is us humans that are evil and create evil.- r

    Humans are both evil and good, lies and truth, devil and God, and it depends wholly on them which side they choose and bring out into the outside world. Unfortunately very often people make the wrong choice and contribute to the triumph of evil themselves.

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  2. December 10, 2015 1:13 pm

    I see all of this and then I think??? Michael Jackson brought joy and happyness to millions of people all over the world! If that is satanism, then where is god? God is everything and all around and in us. He made the devil. He is almighty so…… it is us humans that are evil and create evil. I do not think MJ was evil! He made some wrong choices but he also made millions of people happy! And that is what it’s all about.

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  3. November 26, 2014 8:46 pm

    All I’ve ever got from Michael’s music is the inspiration to do good for people around me. Others have as well, I’m not the only one.
    So when I plead my case to God, what do I say?
    “I’m sorry about donating money and giving my aid to strangers, Lord! I was influenced by the evil Michael Jackson to do nothing but good! Please don’t send me to hell!”

    As long as his songs continue to inspire me to do good and feel good about being good, I’m cool. All for love, as Michael would say.

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  4. November 26, 2014 12:40 pm

    It’s pretty obvious by the length of your post that MJ really got you in his spell. Don’t think I’m being disrespectful, I got caught too and so did the whole world. Please, just accept it, a man who builds a statue of himself, flashes all those occult symbols like he breathes and dances and sings like that… Let’s be reasonable, he couldn’t be in God Almighty’s service! He did have help from occult forces which simply mean he served the devil. Did he know about that? Maybe not, but deep down everyone knows he did… It’s revolting I know. So what I did was, I simply walked away from this illusion because that’s what God asks from us. Hollywood, music industry, all owned by satan, and his plan is only one: drag as many souls to hell with him. Don’t do that to yourself! Confess your sins, go to Eucharist… If you’re not Catholic, ask God to help you amd guide you through the right path. I pray for all of you to get out of this idolatry and save your souls. God bless you!

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  5. September 23, 2013 4:17 am

    “I do believe he channeled spirit for songs and other things from his own words about Liberace’, Prince and others, Satan worshipers often refer to Satan as God, Madonna also introduced him to Kaballa. I would ike to here what people here think would be a good example of financial disclosure for non profits religious, and LGBT, NAACP,political,, food pantries and what not.” – David

    I knew it was reckless on the part of our David to make a post about “channelling spirits” and proving that MJ was not involved in this remarkable process. The magic words about “channelling” invariably attract a certain type of people here.

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  6. September 23, 2013 1:07 am

    This blog along with Micheal sleeping with boys all around puberty age, the latest claim by another man and Micheal later occult dealing after Madonna, have convinced me that Micheal did indeed molest at least some of the boys who sued him, the books of naked boys found along with Barely legal in his bedroom bathroom and other places and one boy admitting sleeping a whole year in bed with Micheal, and no one had the guts to tell Micheal these are not your kids but pubescent boy you are sleeping almost every night with in the same bed with porn around, and many of his songs were infact demonic blood on the dance floor, we are the world, Thriller, etc. I do believe he channeled spirit for songs and other things from his own words about Liberace’, Prince and others, Satan worshipers often refer to Satan as God, Madonna also introduced him to Kaballa.
    Nevertheless, He may have found the real God before he dies, I was so upset he never had his own children and supposedly never had sex with any woman not even his wife, after reading interviews with his female dancers, video starlets, and even Sheryl Crow on how he totally ignored all women, not even remembering their names, just to spend every second with the little pubescent boys he always had with him on tour and shoots.
    I am sorry no grown man, childhood or not should be sleeping with someone else pubescent boy, or even his own every night for years almost, and even after the first allegations the second and the hired, and after he had his own premade kids, he still slept with pubescent boys, and I believe he would still be doing it today, if he was alive.
    Some say G Craigs Lewis DVDs are over priced and they are, all ministries today or almost all get their funds from donations and cd and dvd sales, and many are even more expensive, it does cost money for equipment, and to produce, record, print and package and ship, I think a fair price for a quality color product with good camera, lighting sound and editing would be about $10 each, and yes even religious organizations have a right to copyrights for books and media and to make a profit from it for salary and to run their ministry.
    No religious institution has to show every single penny to the public, but I actually wish they would from the catholic church down along with All charities public and private companies, but to do so would put security at risk, and identity and be highly dangerous if criminals had all of your financial info.
    To G Craigs favor, I rarely if ever have heard of a pastor admit his research was wrong and he made a mistake, as the two men do look very similar, so I will at least give him that credit actually I have never seen that before and wish more people on both sides would do it, it still does not excuse incomplete and fauty research thou, but at least he was man enough to do it.
    I wish before he makes another DVD, he goes back over each one he has done find any mistake and than make a dvd of all of those with sources mention, because sometimes sources are indeed wrong, and start fresh, anyone can make a human mistake, Michael J and G Craig Lewis and you and I.
    It is a lie when it is known to be false but you intentionally say it anyway, it is a mistake when you have a bad source, did not fully research, or simply made a human error and this is important, admit it as boldly as the false comment in the same way dvd.
    I would ike to here what people here think would be a good example of financial disclosure for non profits religious, and LGBT, NAACP,political,, food pantries and what not.

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  7. November 22, 2012 11:34 pm

    I have finally realized what Roger Morneau is speaking in all the videos sent to us by Rob and what they mean by this “channeling”.

    Roger Morneau speaks about the well known phenemenon called “Spiritism” which was extremely popular in the 19th century and was practised in Europe and probably USA on an almost routine basis. It should not be confused with “Spiritualism” as the two have absolutely nothing in common.

    Spiritism is communication with the spirits of the dead through a medium. I’ve read that the phenomenon is real, was studied by scientists and is not accepted by church because no one can guarantee that the spirits are “good”. These days it is practised only by few and therefore they (most probably) form “secret societies” not to give too much publicity to their activities.

    The phenomenon is described by the Roman Church Encyclopedia. They do not call it “satanism”, though a person involved in a “seance” cannot know who is talking to him, which is why this practice is considered dangerous and is not advised to anyone who may want to do it even out of curiosity.

    The site “Catholic encyclopedia” http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14221a.htm says (shortened version):

    Spiritism is the name properly given to the belief that the living can and do communicate with the spirits of the departed, and to the various practices by which such communication is attempted. It should be carefully distinguished from Spiritualism, the philosophical doctrine which holds, in general, that there is a spiritual order of beings no less real than the material and, in particular, that the soul of man is a spiritual substance.

    The phenomena include:

    production of raps and other sounds;
    movements of objects (tables, chairs) without contact or with contact insufficient to explain the movement:
    moulds, i.e., impressions made upon paraffin and similar substances;
    luminous appearances, i.e., vague glimmerings or light or faces more or less defines;
    raising of objects from the ground by supposed supernormal means;
    materialization or appearance of a spirit in visible human form;
    spirit-photography, in which the feature or forms of deceased persons appear on the plate along with the likeness of a living photographed subject.

    History

    Spiritism dates from the year 1848 and from the experiences of the Fox family at Hydesville, and later at Rochester, in New York State. Strange “knockings” were heard in the house, pieces of furniture were moved about as though by invisible hands, and the noises became so troublesome that sleep was impossible. At length the “rapper” began to answer questions, and a code of signals was arranged to facilitate communication. It was also found that to receive messages special qualifications were needed; these were possessed by Catherine and Margaret Fox, who are therefore regarded as the first “mediums” of modern times.

    Similar disturbances occurred in other parts of the country, notably at Stratford, Connecticut, in the house of Rev. Dr. Phelps, a Presbyterian minister, where the manifestations (1850-51) were often violent and the spirit-answers blasphemous.

    The subject was taken up by men like Horace Greeley, Wm. Lloyd Garrison, Robert Hare, professor of chemistry in the University of Pennsylvania, and John Worth Edmonds, a judge of the Supreme Court of New York State. Conspicuous among the Spiritists was Andrew Jackson Davis, whose work, “The Principles of Nature” (1847), dictated by him in trance, contained a theory of the universe, closely resembling the Swedenborgian.

    Spiritism also found earnest advocates among clergymen of various denominations, especially the Universalists; it appealed strongly to many people who had lost all religious belief in a future life; and it was welcomed by those who were then agitating the question of a new social organization–the pioneers of modern Socialism. So widespread was the belief in Spiritism that in 1854 Congress was petitioned to appoint a scientific commission for the investigation of the phenomena. The petition, which bore some 13,000 signatures, was laid on the table, and no action was taken.

    In Europe the way had been prepared for Spiritism by the Swedenborgian movement and by an epidemic of table-turning which spread from the Continent to England and invaded all classes of society. It was still a fashionable diversion when, in 1852, two mediums, Mrs. Hayden and Mrs. Roberts, came from America to London, and held séances which attracted the attention of scientists as well as popular interest.

    The later development in England was furthered by mediums who came from America: Daniel Dunglas Home (Hume) in 1855, the Davenport Brothers in 1864, and Henry Slade in 1876. Among the native mediums, Rev. William Stainton Moses became prominent in 1872, Miss Florence Cook in the same year, and William Eglinton in 1886.

    Spiritism was advocated by various periodical publications, and defended in numerous works some of which were said to have been dictated by the spirits themselves, e.g., the “Spirit Teachings” of Stainton Moses, which purport to give an account of conditions in the other world and form a sort of Spiritistic theology. During this period also, scientific opinion on the subject was divided. While Professors Huxley and Tyndall sharply denounced Spiritism in practice and theory, Mr. (later Sir Wm.) Crookes and Dr. Alfred Russell Wallace regarded the phenomena as worthy of serious investigation. The same view was expressed in the report which the Dialectical Society published in 1871 after an inquiry extending over eighteen months, and at the Glasgow meeting of the British Association in 1876 Professor Barrett, F.R.S., concluded his account of the phenomena he had observed by urging the appointment of a committee of scientific men for the systematic investigation of such phenomena.

    The growth of Spiritism on the Continent was marked by similar transitions from popular curiosity to serious inquiry. In its later development Spiritism was represented in scientific and philosophical circles by men of prominence, e.g., Ulrici, Fichte, Züllner, Fechner, and Wm. Weber. The last-named three conducted (1877-8) a series of experiments with the American medium Slade at Leipzig.

    The foregoing outline shows that modern Spiritism within a generation had passed beyond the limits of a merely popular movement and had challenged the attention of the scientific world. It had, moreover, brought about serious divisions among men of science. For those who denied the existence of a soul distinct from the organism it was a foregone conclusion that there could be no such communications as the Spiritists claimed. This negative view, of course, is still taken by all who accept the fundamental ideas of Materialism. But apart from any such a priori considerations, the opponents of Spiritism justified their position by pointing to innumerable cases of fraud which were brought to light either through closer examination of the methods employed or through the admissions of the mediums themselves.

    In spite, however, of repeated exposure, there occurred phenomena which apparently could not be ascribed to trickery of any sort. In 1869 the London Dialectical Society appointed a committee of thirty-three members “to investigate the phenomena alleged to be spiritual manifestations, and to report thereon”. In 1882 there was organized in London the “Society for Psychical Research” for the scientific examination of what its prospectus terms “debatable phenomena”.

    The Society for Psychical Research soon counted among its members distinguished representatives of science and philosophy in England and America; numerous associations with similar aims and methods were organized in various countries. The “Proceedings” of the Society contain detailed reports of investigations in Spiritism and allied subjects, and a voluminous literature, expository and critical, has been created.

    Hypotheses

    For those who admit that the manifestations proceed from intelligences other than that of the medium, the next question in order is whether these intelligences are the spirits of the departed or beings that have never been embodied in human forms. The reply had often been found difficult even by avowed believers in Spiritism, and some of these have been forced to admit the action of extraneous or non-human intelligences. This conclusion is based on several sorts of evidence:

    – the difficulty of establishing spirit-identity, i.e., of ascertaining whether the communicator is actually the personality he or it purports to be;
    – the love of impersonation on the part of the spirits which leads them to introduce themselves as celebrities who once lived on earth, although on closer questioning they show themselves quite ignorant of those whom they personate;
    – the trivial character of the communications, so radically opposed to what would be expected from those who have passed into the other world and who naturally should be concerned to impart information on the most serious subjects;
    – the contradictory statements which the spirits make regarding their own condition, the relations of God and man, the fundamental precepts of morality;
    – finally the low moral tone which often pervades these messages from spirits who pretend to enlighten mankind.

    These deceptions and inconsistencies have been attributed by some authors to the subliminal consciousness (Flournoy), by others to spirits of a lower order, i.e., below the plane of humanity (Stainton Moses), while a third explanation refers them quite frankly to demonic intervention (Raupert, “Modern Spiritism”, St. Louis, 1904; cf. Grasset, “The Marvels beyond Science,” tr. Tubeuf, New York, 1910).

    For the Christian believer this third view acquired special significance from the fact that the alleged communications antagonize the essential truths of religion, such as the Divinity of Christ, atonement and redemption, judgment and future retribution, while they encourage agnosticism, pantheism, and a belief in reincarnation.

    Dangers

    Whatever the explanations offered for the medium’s “powers”, their exercise sooner or later brings about a state of passivity which cannot but injure the mind. This is readily intelligible in the hypothesis of an invasion by extraneous spirits, since such a possession must weaken and tend to efface the normal personality. But similar results may be expected if, as the alternate hypothesis maintains, a disintegration of the one personality takes place. In either case, it is not surprising that the mental balance should be disturbed, and self-control impaired or destroyed. Recourse to Spiritism frequently produces hallucinations and other aberrations, especially in subjects who are predisposed to insanity; and even those who are otherwise normal expose themselves to severe physical and mental strain (cf. Viollet, “Le spiritisme dans ses rapports avec la folie”, Paris, 1908).

    More serious still is the danger of moral perversion. If to practise or encourage deception of any sort is reprehensible, the evil is certainly greater when fraud is resorted to in the inquiry concerning the future life. But apart from any intention to deceive, the methods employed would undermine the foundations of morality, either by producing a disintegration of personality or by inviting the invasion of an extraneous intelligence. “To attend the séances of a professional medium is perhaps at worst to countenance a swindle; to watch the gradual development of innocent automatism into physical mediumship may be to assist at a process of moral degeneration” (Podmore, “Modern Spiritualism”, II, 326 sqq.).

    Action of the Church

    A decree of the Holy Office, 30 March, 1898, condemns Spiritistic practices, even though intercourse with the demon be excluded and communication sought with good spirits only. In all these documents the distinction is clearly drawn between legitimate scientific investigation and superstitious abuses. What the Church condemns in Spiritism is superstition with its evil consequences for religion and morality.

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14221a.htm

    I have never heard MJ do anything like that, and think he would have been scared out of his wits if he had ever tried (even if had allowed himself to break the Jehovah Witness’s rules). However I’ve heard that Lisa Marie Presley and Karen Faye were so desperate to talk to Michael that they tried to communicate with him after his death and there were even some reports about it in the net.

    They surely did it out of curiosity (for which I cannot blame them) and I am also sure that they are not members of any secret society.

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  8. November 22, 2012 5:57 pm

    And this allegation is CRAZY:

    First, it is a picture on the cover of the documentary which was made by someone else (and not by Michael as he was dead).

    Second, it wasn’t the best of the ideas at all (I would prefer to see his face).

    Third, if they wanted to make use of Michael’s usual gesture on stage then it should be the correct one – something like this:

    This gesture was indeed often used by Michael, but it comes not from “satan” but from the first Christians who imitated Christ on the cross.

    The Christian historian Eberhard Arnold wrote about this gesture often used by the early Christians in his groundbreaking book about the first Christians’ life, beliefs and practices: http://www.eberhardarnold.com/:

    “The early Christians used to stretch out their hands as a symbol of triumph, imitating the arms extended on the cross.” Eberhard Arnold

    Happy Thanksgiving to all Americans!

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  9. November 22, 2012 5:38 pm

    I watch those crazy videos bit by bit when I have time for them. Now I have seen a statement which is attributed to MJ, but it is provided with NO PROOF whatsoever that MJ was “communicating” with Liberace via “channeling”:

    Well, first, there is no link to the quotation, so I doubt very much that there is a real source for it. All they do is refer to each other references.

    Second, if they are good enough to ever provide a link it will be to a source where some “psychics” reveal some of their ideas. Who these psychics are and whether they may be patients in remission released from some mental hospitals none of us have a chance to check.

    Third, why do they claim that MJ channeled to Liberace? If MJ were to select someone for “channeling” it would be James Brown or someone else for whom he had much respect in my opinion. Liberace was a nobody for MJ. These two pictures show the amount of attachment Michael had for James Brown:

    And for Liberace:

    Fourth, the authors of this video got stuck on the word “channeling” (used by Kenny Ortega with a smile and admiration in his voice). Okay, but what if it was just a bad choice of the word, and what Ortega really meant was “he was inspired, enthusiastic, creative”? However since the word “channeling” was used I looked up its definition and the phenomenon assoiated with it:

    channeling
    noun
    esp. in some New Age beliefs, the process by which a person becomes a conduit for a deceased person, as someone from an ancient culture, who imparts information about a previous life

    * * *

    There are two main techniques [of channeling] mediumship developed in the latter half of the 20th century. One type involves psychics or sensitives who can speak to spirits and then relay what they hear to their clients. One of the most noted channels of this type is clairvoyant Danielle Egnew, known for her communication with angelic entities.

    The other incarnation of non-physical mediumship is a form of channeling in which the channeler goes into a trance, or “leaves their body” and then becomes “possessed” by a specific spirit, who then talks through them. In the trance, the medium enters a cataleptic state marked by extreme rigidity. The control spirit then takes over, the voice may change completely and the spirit answers the questions of those in its presence or giving spiritual knowledge. The most successful and widely known channeler of this variety is JZ Knight, who claims to channel the spirit of Ramtha, a 30 thousand year old man. Others claim to channel spirits from “future dimensional”, ascended masters or in the case of the trance mediums of the Brahma Kumaris, God himself.

    From what I have seen in “This is it” Michael Jackson was in none of these states. He wasn’t a “conduit for the deceased person” and spoke very much for his own living self and in a very inspiring, gentle, admirable manner too. He was in the process of creation and this is what Ortega was speaking about with a smile and admiration on his face.

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  10. November 22, 2012 2:45 am

    Yes, Bob, there is a mass mind. And this mass mind was cleverly exploited by Michaels enemies,the friends of pedofiles who destroyed his public image.You certainly know who they are from reading this blog.Michael and neither his music never destroyed anybody.
    You seem obsessed by demons, satanic verses etc.Try to calm your imagination.

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  11. November 21, 2012 10:24 pm

    “you have MUCH to learn. Sites like Vigilant Citizen expose the evils, depravity, illuminati/masonic, Egyptian, Satanic connections to the music and entertainment industries on a daily basis.. and that site is run by a former music exec that’s been in the business for 20 years. Even atheists have come around back to God in researching things like the New World Order, the elites, the music and entertainment industries and more.. because at the top they’re ALL in one of the secret societies, which all ultimately worship Satan in one form or another.”

    In contrast to what you think I’ve watched a lot of videos concerning Iluminati, mind control, their various signs here and there, etc. (when I was looking for information on MJ). Actually I was shocked to see so much talk about it on Youtube and various forums. But everything I saw and read left me with the feeling that though there might be some truth behind it, all of it is actually missing the point. It is like throwing everything into one pile without real understanding what is going on and no idea what to do with it. It is a terrible mishmash of some facts mixed with fantasy, hysteria and the feeling of helplessness in the face of some ‘huge power’ which is controlling everything.

    I would like to warn you against this hysteria. The powerful don’t control everything though they think they do. Don’t be afraid of them. You can shut them our of your life, you can refuse to watch and listen to what they say, you can after all simply not pay attention and that will be the end of them.

    Theoretically I understand that Illuminati or a club of the most powerful must exist. It is natural to assume that they do. It cannot be different where the wealthy have held key positions in the world of finances and mass media for several generations. Governments come and go, while they stay.

    Generation after generation they have had a sort of a social club where they exchange ideas on how to arrange things according to their liking and where they sometimes play games in order to dispel the boredom. They can make a bet for one symbolic dollar that they will ruin one man’s life and promote a crook to a top position (as in the Trading places movie with Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd). They can decide to teach a person like Michael Jackson a “lesson” to make him mind his own business and everything around him will momentarily turn into a nightmare. They can turn the story of his harassment into a worldwide show like “the Truman show” which will generate huge money – yes, all these scenarios are absolutely realistic and this is how it is probably really taking place in life. The powerful are having their fun…

    However there is a way not to let them do it to you. Just don’t go for their games and don’t support the style they impose on you and this will be the end of their power over you. They are doing it to you while you allow them to and while you agree to play by their rules. As the Truman show movie says – “Truman is free to leave at any moment in time”….

    Though the main prototype for Truman was Michael Jackson as the movie scriptwriter directly said it, we are also Trumans, only of a smaller type. And we can leave if we don’t want to attend their show any longer.

    I wrote about the Truman show for Michael Jackson here: http://wp.me/pIuKO-1ch

    As someone who was raised in a country which exercised unprecedented “mind control” of its citizens, I can tell you that nothing on earth can enter your mind and control you if you do not allow this to happen. They can ruin your life, your health, your body, the very least they can do is force you to live by their rules if you want to survive – but they have no power over your individual thinking and ultimately your spirit.

    Your spirit is free and it is up to you whether you make a prisoner out of it.

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  12. November 21, 2012 9:44 pm

    “WATCH the video expose on it which breaks it down in great detail. Read some books on neurolinguistic programming and subliminal messaging for it’s been used in commercials, advertisements, movies, videos, TV shows and the like for the past 80+ years. This is all based on the techniques of Edward Bernays, who is the father of modern mass marketing. He based his techniques on those of his uncle, Sigmund Freud. Bernays pioneered the science of mass mind control which advertisers, marketers and governments both foreign and domestic have used to control the masses since before WWII.”

    Mind control in all those marketing techniques? This is what they indeed do in order to sell. But this is what you are now doing to us too. You write “watch” in capital letters so that the word immediately stands out from the text and induces us to go and watch those videos of yours. I have not done it yet, but I doesn’t mean that I am not familiar with what they say, about MJ for example.

    All their maneuvers on selling their ideas about MJ are clear the way they are. This is why I am so terribly annoyed with Diane Dimond’s and other “reporters”‘ stories. Half-truths mixed with downright lies, the focus shifted from the main thing to something secondary and unimportant, conclusions made not even from the facts reported but from the false statements they themselves make about them, the nasty words to be remembered about MJ repeated again and again under various sauces – oh, there are so many techniques that at is boring even to discuss them.

    However I am sure that there is a remedy against all that. Individual thinking, not going for ready-made patterns, discarding stereotypes and searching for the truth. In those extra-biblical sayings Christ said to us “Search for the truth and the truth will heal you”. The first step in it is to stop lying to ourselves.

    “The lyrics for his Beat It song are about group homosexual masturbation.”

    Never in my life have I heard more nonsense. And if many people in the US believe these delirious ideas (as you told me in one of your opuses) I am beginning to think that Americans are the worst brain-washed people in the world.

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  13. November 21, 2012 6:45 pm

    “It is Satan’s world and God is allowing him to run it as he wishes, and until Christ comes back to set up the Kingdom of God after all this world is destroyed, then and only then will such things be built on God’s laws and ways, not before.”

    It is God who is allowing us, his children, to run it as we wish. Only our wishes do not live up to God’s expectations. God could have destroyed us long ago or forced each and every one of us “to be good”. He has all powers for that, however this does not seem to be the Universal plan. Instead of forcing us to be virtuous He gives us a choice and it is the wrong choice made by people which turns the world into so terrible a place. Some have made such choices in life that they already live in hell, created with their own hands.

    It only looks nice when someone hisses in your ear – do as your animal instincts tell you, we live only once, so why limit yourself in the pleasures life can offer? Yes, it looks nice at the beginning, only it always ends in the destruction of one’s soul. This was tested a million times, in every century and in every generation. Why this happens I don’t know – probably because once you take the path of pleasure-seeking, you require more and more pepper on the way. What was a pleasure yesterday does not satisfy today, so something new and titillating is needed with each coming day.

    Now I am retyping the report on child abuse by the Pennsylvania University sociology professors and they register a terrible erosion of values among ordinary people who think themselves respectable citizens. These respectable fathers of families go to “sun and sand” cities like San Francisco and pay for sex with children there. Street children from all over the US flock to these cities “for really good bucks”. And the younger the child is the bigger the fee is. Much of it is happening behind close doors – in massage parlors, etc. These people are called conventioneers (probably because they attend conventions?) and after their “holiday” return home and pretend that they are good, respectable and God-abiding people!

    This is the living hell Michael was singing about in his songs… And someone says he shouldn’t have sung about it?

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  14. November 21, 2012 5:49 pm

    “While MJ did try to fight against it.. his channeling as admitted by Kenny Ortega and heard of by other insiders PROVES that he was still involved in it, whether he was aware of it or not”

    What crazy channeling did Kenny Ortega “admit”? And who is this Kenny Ortega to tell us anything about Michael’s spiritual life? What can a person like Ortega know about it at all? Ortega should better think of saving his own soul by finally telling the truth about what they did to Michael within that AEG project of theirs.

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  15. November 21, 2012 5:44 pm

    “The entire WORLD and all of it’s systems of government, education, entertainment, finances, sciences, modern medicine and far more at all based on the faulty foundation of greed in all forms”

    Yes, it is what the ancient called praying to the Golden Calf. Money is an indispensible part of our life but it cannot take the place of God. And as far as I remember Michael never promoted love for money in his songs. On the contrary he constantly showed to others how evil it is to do “anything for money”.

    If Michael earned much money it cannot be thrown against him as an argument. Money gives many opportunities and it is the way it is spent which matters. Michael wanted to build a hospital for children with the money he hoped to earn from his AEG contract.

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  16. November 21, 2012 5:17 pm

    Rob, you evidently have lots of spare time and therefore keep writing your highly misleading opuses here. I haven’t got so much spare time and will have to be short. From what you are writing here I suspect that you are a sort of a religious fanatic with a terrible mishmash in your head. Are you a saint or who are you to so willfully proclaim Michael to be in association with “satan”?

    One thing is clear to me – if you are unable to recognize Michael’s purity you are one of these “satan” people yourself. Who is “satan” by the way, in your system of thought and why are you so obsessed with this creature?

    God may not be part of your system but God created this world – you, me, Michael and everyone else. And He expects a lot from us. We are His co-workers and I am not going to sit here waiting for Christ to come and see the completely ruined world populated by the worst of animals only looking like human beings. I don’t want to become one and don’t want to see others degrade to their level.

    Michael didn’t want it either and that is why he appealed to the best in each of us. This is why he has such a huge following among people and the fact that the people did respond to his appeal gives me some hope. All is probably not lost yet.

    And we can change evil from within. This is where it actually is. If humankind is erased tomorrow from the surface of the planet, there will be no more evil and the planet will sigh with relief. We (except small children) are this evil – each in his own measure and to his own extent. If each of us reduces a little bit of it inside ourselves a good deal of it will be reduced globally. A little less destruction, a little less selfishness, a little more love, a little more consideration for another person’s needs – and tomorrow we find ourselves in a totally different, much better world.

    This is what Michael meant by “Heal the world”. And we are quite capable of doing it.

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  17. Rob permalink
    November 21, 2012 3:31 pm

    Vindicatemj (Helena) – Yes, they WILL write songs about healing. Songs do not “heal the world”.. they only make you feel good in the moment. If anything MJ’s example would be what would inspire others to go against this evil system.

    If you think that you can get ANY kind of major success in movies or music without selling you soul to the devil, then you are HORRIBLY Naive and deceived or willfully blind.

    You can NOT change evil from within.. this is naive and childish thinking. The entire WORLD and all of it’s systems of government, education, entertainment, finances, sciences, modern medicine and far more at all based on the faulty foundation of greed in all forms. It’s ALL about making money and Satan uses people of talent to do his bidding, knowingly or unknowingly. All musicians are high priests casting musical spells on the masses without them ever being aware of it. That is their very PURPOSE, to assist Satan is deceiving the whole world, whether the artist is aware of it or not.

    NO ONE that is famous in the music or movie industry is that way without making a commitment to Satan via one of the already mentioned secret societies.. that’s how it’s DESIGNED on purpose. If you won’t make that deal, you don’t get the record deals, the contracts or get anywhere at all.. Period.

    While MJ did try to fight against it.. his channeling as admitted by Kenny Ortega and heard of by other insiders PROVES that he was still involved in it, whether he was aware of it or not. He did try and turn against it and was revealing things to the world, that is why they killed him.. but the FACT remains that what he was into, which ALL musicians today are into, for it’s not POSSIBLE to avoid it, is the occult/spiritism in it’s many forms and guises.

    God is NOT involved in this worlds, it’s systems at ALL. You can NOT change the foundation, that is why God knows He has to let it ALL be destroyed so that a new world, The World Tomorrow, can be built on the solid framework of Obedience to God’s laws and principals, not change this sick, twisted corrupted and Satanically inspired world from within, for that’s NOT POSSIBLE until the people running it and controlling it are changed, and only God can do that… but He won’t now, because this IS Satan’s world and God is allowing him to run it as he wishes, and until Christ comes back to set up the Kingdom of God after all this world is destroyed, then and only then will such things be built on God’s laws and ways, not before.

    Again… the Videos have TONS of information in them. We can go back and forth forever, so either watch all the video links and series I mentioned with contain overwhelming evidence, you continue to believe that MJ was some kind of a prophet or saint.. he was not.

    Did he have a good heart at his core.. was he fighting against the evil and corruption, yes he seemed to be.. but he was still involved in speaking with demons whether he knew it or not. We he being controlled by behind the scenes, yes and was he killed, very much so.. As mentioned, I respect him trying to come out from under it, but as Kenny’s own plain statements about him channeling and communing with HIS god.. not THE God of the bible, but HIS god as Kenny plainly stated, he was still very much involved in speaking with spirits.. and in this world now, the only spirits that are speaking to people, especially those in the music industry are demons, fallen angels, unclean spirits who’s sole purpose is to deceive, lie, trick and lead people away from the true God and His commandments, plain and simple.

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  18. November 21, 2012 2:42 pm

    Rob, I KNOW of the world evil, but Michael did not have anything to do with it. This is where your crucial mistake is. Michael was what the Gospel calls of the different world, and the fact that by his father’s will he found himself in the midst of this evil industry is not his fault. This is probably how God wanted it – to make Michael go into the very heart of it and try to change it from within.

    The people of “satan” don’t write songs like “Heal the world”. They write about its destruction starting with destroying the values which were slowly worked out by thousands of generations of people – don’t kill, don’t lie, don’t steal… and by destroying each of us through our submission to the evil side us. All of us have evil inside ourselves and all of us face this choice, and the most depraved and corrupt do indeed work hard so that the evil side in each takes over. Then they will celebrate their full victory.

    However Michael counted on the light side of the same people. The choice we make depends on us, on each of us individually. No Illimunitani can have full control of a person’s individual thinking. And this is where the way out of the situation is. Remember that we are free and this freedom (of choice) has been given to us by God. All the evil of this world is only due to the existence of this freedom of choice and due to the fact that many choose evil or simply submit to it, as it is the easiest way.

    I will try to give you a more detailed answer a little later.

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  19. Rob permalink
    November 21, 2012 1:45 pm

    Vindicatemj (Helena) –
    Then you have MUCH to learn, for I’m FAR from the only one that knows or is saying these things. Sites like Vigilant Citizen expose the evils, depravity, illuminati/masonic, Egyptian, Satanic connections to the music and entertainment industries on a daily basis.. and that site is run by a former music exec that’s been in the business for 20 years.

    Video series such as THE INDUSTRY has so many videos wit so much evidence that only someone that is WILLFULLY blind would not see it.

    As I said, I do believe that MJ was trying to turn away from the dark side of the industry, trying to reveal a lot of truth, trying to warn people and trying to keep away from it as much as he could based on his knowledge, for that I applaud and respect him. But stop the MJ worship, for NO ONE gets anywhere to any level in this world without making a deal with one of these secret societies which is akin to making a deal with Satan.

    The lyrics for his Beat It song are about group homosexual masturbation.. WATCH the video expose on it which breaks it down in great detail. Read some books on neurolinguistic programming and subliminal messaging for it’s been used in commercials, advertisements, movies, videos, TV shows and the like for the past 80+ years. This is all based on the techniques of Edward Bernays, who is the father of modern mass marketing. He based his techniques on those of his uncle, Sigmund Freud. Bernays pioneered the science of mass mind control which advertisers, marketers and governments both foreign and domestic have used to control the masses since before WWII. The video series “The Century of the Self” details this in depth.

    Even former video models, print models, along with actors, politicians and musicians have ALL come foreword and said the same thing time and time and time again, all of which is backed up in the pages of the bible, along with empirical evidence and common sense.

    I am someone of very high intellect, being into science since I was a child. I’m a self taught piano player, was a physics major in college, have been into Chinese martial arts and medicine for nearly 30 years, along with bible study, history, psychology, the mind and more. I’m an avid reader and researcher and I’ve seen and heard the same thing over and over again, so much so that the picture is crystal clear for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

    Even atheists have come around back to God in researching things like the New World Order, the elites, the music and entertainment industries and more.. because at the top they’re ALL in one of the secret societies, which all ultimately worship Satan in one form or another. This has actually brought many atheists back to God because those at the top know exactly who they’re worshiping, while telling the world that God and spiritual things don’t exist.

    IF you take the TIME to see the numerous video links I provided you will see far better what I’m talking about. If after you view all of those videos and the series I mentioned and you STILL refuse to believe.. then that is willful ignorance and willful disbelief. hey, to each his own.

    One’s thinking might reflect their own depravity, but that’s ONLY true in a very narrow reality. Does that mean that someone that studies evil, exposes evil and understand it through decades of research IS themselves evil??? No. Does that mean that God’s prophets who warned about doom and destruction to come in their warning messages from God are themselves bringing the doom or are full of evil… .No. That is a cop out statement to allow someone to dismiss the warnings of another because they’re not ready or mentally capable of receiving them at that time.

    I’ve given MORE than enough evidence for those willing to truly learn, to be able to see the truth behind my statements. This is just a small portion of information and research that I’ve compiled over the last 20+ years of studying what’s really going on in the world and who really runs the world, and I’m FAR from the only one that is aware of these basic as the numerous videos from various individuals, former musicians, music excecs, actors, politicians, insiders and others have mentioned.

    Each one is free to ignore all I’ve said.. for now.. but they do so to their own peril. The choice is yours and everyone else that hears my voice, or reads my words, but there is always a steep price to pay for willful ignorance. Choose.

    Peace.

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  20. November 21, 2012 1:23 pm

    “This is the second time that I had to post my reply.. that’s why I said that someone is deleting my comment. It said it was awaiting moderation, then a couple of days later I was gone, facilitating my repost with the additional comment about it being deleted.”

    Rob, you and everyone should know that if you post too many links the wordpress will automatically mark your comment as spam and unless I “save” it it will go away on its own. I wasn’t here for some time due to some problems, so it did go away. When/if I block you I will warn you in advance.

    “Watch LennonHonors videos exposing MJ’s lyrics and songs like “Beat It” as well as “You’re a Jerk” for example, both of which are all about homosexual masturbation”

    “You’re a Jerk” lyrics are not Michael’s (it is someone called “New Boyz”) and if you really think that “Beat it” is about “homosexual masturbation” I feel tremendously sorry for you. We have nothing else to discuss with you any more. In my native language we have a saying “Everyone thinks to the extent of his own depravity”.

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  21. Rob permalink
    November 21, 2012 4:28 am

    As you see Rob, none of your comments have been deleted. I will leave them here for educational purposes. While people tell me all about those demons I study the people who speak about them.

    This is the second time that I had to post my reply.. that’s why I said that someone is deleting my comment. It said it was awaiting moderation, then a couple of days later I was gone, facilitating my repost with the additional comment about it being deleted.

    VMJ: Where is Michael Jackson singing “satanic lyrics”?-
    Rob: Virtually all of the lyrics song by mainstream artists are ultimately satanic in nature. Songs are organized using “witch language”. This is well known in the music industry and the entertainment industry as a whole. Countless insiders & former artists have confirmed this.

    I agree that the world is mad and drunk with evil now. Many lyrics are horrible. But I asked you about Michael Jackson and you answer me with generalizations about “virtually all of them”. You have nothing to say about Michael Jackson as he NEVER, I repeat NEVER wrote anything satanic, evil or degrading. He wrote “Heal the world”, “Keep the faith” and “Lost children” while some real monsters were writing and singing this.

    Watch LennonHonors videos exposing MJ’s lyrics and songs like “Beat It” as well as “You’re a Jerk” for example, both of which are all about homosexual masturbation. http://www.lenonhonorfilms.com/WhatLiesInPlainSight.html

    “The God of the bible does NOT use trance channeling to communicate, NOR is He involved in the music business at ALL. We are told by Him to keep ourselves away and unspotted from the world” – Rob”

    “What a fantastic statement. God isn’t involved in the music business? Even classical music? And can you name me in which business God is involved? Probably finances? Or meat industry? Or advertizing?… ”

    A: NONE. He is NOT involved in this world, any of it’s business, systems or government at all. He only occasionally intervenes in order to guide the world on the path it needs to learn various lessons. This occurs VERY rarely and almost always in regards to guiding nations or the overall course of future events regarding bible prophecy, so that it is fulfilled as it needs to be. ALL the systems, from education to finance, music, movies, TV, stocks, food, medicine, military, sciences and everything else are all controlled and run by Satan. As Christ said in Matthew 4 when Satan said that all these kingdoms of the world were Satan’s and he could give it to whomever he wished, Christ knew this and did not disagree at all with that statement. Later in Eph 4:4: and 2 Cor. 2:2 Satan is called the “god of this world” and the “prince of the power of the air”. Jesus Himself called him the “ruler of this world”.

    God is allowing Satan and an to rule the world as they wish so that they overall learn specific lessons. Anything that this world does that is similar to God or the bible is almost exclusively done by the US because it was founded upon many biblical principals, most of which have been done away with at this late date.

    “And what trance channeling are you talking about? Michael speaking about God all the time? Or him saying that a song dropped in his lap ready-made and he always wanted to go on his knees to thank God for it? “

    If you watched the video clips I attached, those questions were all answered far more clearly than anything I can say here. Kenny Ortega clearly told Oprah that he was “channeling”, “communing with his god”, getting idea from his god. He said at other times that he communes with other spirits in his room. This is PRECISELY how demonism, spiritism, sorcery and other occult arts operate. The Fantastic video series called “THE INDUSTRY” hours of video detailing this in the entire music industry as a whole, with clips showing all the musicians openly praying to Satan at the MTV music awards, countless expose’s from current and former musicians, ALL saying the same thing, exposing the subliminal and neurolinguistic messages and open symbolism in their music videos, behind the scene comments and SO much more.. information that clearly speaks for itself. Satanists openly admitted in the 90’s that they were using music because that’s what young people respond to in order to corrupt them, awaken the wolf inside of them and more. This has been going on since at least the 50’s, but became far more open in the 90’s right on up until today.

    “You know who is speaking to what by the lifestyle that they lead (what they’re into) and whom they obey, whether God or not. God only gives His Spirit to those that Obey Him.” – Rob

    “This is correct, only why do you think that Michael did not obey God? He did and very much so. He constantly appealed to God and it was only his obedience to Him that supported him all his life. Here are the quotes from his interview with Rev. Jesse Jackson (March 2005) – in fact he speaks about God in almost every sentence of it, I’ve never heard any musician to appeal to God as often as Michael did:”

    He may have later on appealed to God to help get him OUT of the Satanic music industry, which is why as I said in my original statement, that he was trying to expose the evil of the entire system.. but once you make a deal with Satan, you NEVER get out of it alive!

    Nearly ALL actors, musicians, politicians and the like TALK about God in their speeches, when they win awards, etc.. it means NOTHING if they’re not following God’s commandments and avoiding evil. You can NOT become famous, wealthy or powerful in this world, in ANY form unless you make a deal with Satan in one form or another. Whether it’s becoming a Mason to become governor or president and going to meet with the Bilderberg group, becoming a Mason or Illuminati to get into the music industry
    Pink’s Freemason ritual EXPOSED! – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaV8-r1E34I
    Jack Black Praying to Satan on TV – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eJ5QxhHQTw
    Michael Jackson was a Satanist and Illuminati Puppet Part 1 of 4 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztsRe7lEg0g

    MJ was a religious person and he may have believed at one point that what he was communing with was the actual God of the bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but all his actions, what Kenny Ortega plainly said on Oprah, his own statements, music videos and lyrics show that he was communing with demons/fallen angels that are the current rulers of this world. They pose as God nearly 100% of the time, have been working to deceive this world since the beginning of humans being on the earth and today, the bible clearly shows that Satan has deceived the whole world (Rev. 12:9)

    Jehovah’s Witness, while they have some things more correct than standard pagan Christianity in that they avoid the fake “holi-days” of this world, it’s occultic roots have been exposed.
    Jehovah’s Witnesses-Watchtower Society Exposed Part 1 of 7 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p29dPfbrTuQ

    This is why Kenny Ortega specifically said that Michale was worried about “him” his god, giving the song to Prince (another Jehovah’s witness) if he didn’t accept the lyrics now.

    Watch Roger Morneous fantastic expose on spiritism, the elites and as well their involvement in the music industry plainly admitted.

    Full video

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  22. November 21, 2012 2:32 am

    “Vindicatemj (Helena) – Guess whoever runs this site doesn’t like the real truth as my reply below to all Helena’s questions was deleted!”-Rob

    As you see Rob, none of your comments have been deleted. I will leave them here for educational purposes. While people tell me all about those demons I study the people who speak about them.

    VMJ: Where is Michael Jackson singing “satanic lyrics”?-
    Rob: Virtually all of the lyrics song by mainstream artists are ultimately satanic in nature. Songs are organized using “witch language”. This is well known in the music industry and the entertainment industry as a whole. Countless insiders & former artists have confirmed this.

    I agree that the world is mad and drunk with evil now. Many lyrics are horrible. But I asked you about Michael Jackson and you answer me with generalizations about “virtually all of them”. You have nothing to say about Michael Jackson as he NEVER, I repeat NEVER wrote anything satanic, evil or degrading. He wrote “Heal the world”, “Keep the faith” and “Lost children” while some real monsters were writing and singing this:

    AxCx – I made your kid get AIDS, so you could watch it die
    A few years ago, I snuck Freddy Mercury into your son’s room
    I gave him anesthesia so he’d never remember getting raped
    You spent your life savings putting your kid through college
    Then he died of AIDS, so you wasted your money for nothing

    [Chorus:]
    I made your kid get AIDS, so you could watch it die
    I made your kid get AIDS, so I could watch you cry

    http://www.doomworld.com/vb/everything-else/42759-the-most-disturbing-lyrics-in-a-song/

    “The God of the bible does NOT use trance channeling to communicate, NOR is He involved in the music business at ALL. We are told by Him to keep ourselves away and unspotted from the world” – Rob

    What a fantastic statement. God isn’t involved in the music business? Even classical music? And can you name me in which business God is involved? Probably finances? Or meat industry? Or advertizing? Do you use any of the above in your everyday life? Even if you have no money and don’t eat meat, do you watch or listen to ads? How dare you? Don’t you know that they often cheat and God is definitely not involved in their business?

    And what trance channeling are you talking about? Michael speaking about God all the time? Or him saying that a song dropped in his lap ready-made and he always wanted to go on his knees to thank God for it? Is this what you call trance channeling? And what is a prayer to you? Has God ever answered your prayers? How do you know where you get an answer to your prayer and where is “trance channeling”? What animal is this trance channeling at all?

    “You know who is speaking to what by the lifestyle that they lead (what they’re into) and whom they obey, whether God or not. God only gives His Spirit to those that Obey Him.” – Rob

    This is correct, only why do you think that Michael did not obey God? He did and very much so. He constantly appealed to God and it was only his obedience to Him that supported him all his life. Here are the quotes from his interview with Rev. Jesse Jackson (March 2005) – in fact he speaks about God in almost every sentence of it, I’ve never heard any musician to appeal to God as often as Michael did:

    – I just remember from my mother who is very religious always telling us to always thank God, to thank Jehovah God for your talent, your ability. You know it’s not from, it’s not our doing, and it’s from above. So we were always humbled by people would come with accolades or you know, adulations or whatever it is. You know, it was a beautiful thing.

    – …Well, I’ve never been a great eater, I’ve, uh ~~ to tell a little secret, I hate to tell it, uh, I’ve never been ahhh, great eater or a great admirer food, even though I appreciate food and the gift of food and how God has given us food to eat, but my mother has always had a hard time with me, all my life, uh, forcing me to eat….

    – …my health is perfect actually, I’m a great believer in holistic natural foods and eating and (sp) herbs and things, you know, God’s medicine, instead of Western chemicals, not those things, you know.

    – the first city was Kansas City and that’s where we met with you Jessie and I remember you coming to the suite and you gave prayer and it was a beautiful thing and ah, it was an amazing time, it really was. My dreams had come true.

    – Ah, I gained strength from God. I believe in Jehovah God very much and ah, and I gain strength from the fact that I know I’m innocent ~~ none of these stories are true ~~ they are totally fabricated, and it’s very sad, it’s very, very painful. And I pray a lot and er, that’s how I deal with it…

    – Well, ahem, pretty much to-to be strong for me, to pray for my children and my family and myself. This is uh…uh very difficult time and to not believe what they hear, and see and read and just because it’s in print does not make it… just because it’s in print does not make it the gospel. …And to just uh, just know in the end that I will be vindicated, I pray, because I know the truth. I’m an innocent person. And I believe in God and love God. And just continue to pray for us.

    – Michael Jackson: God bless you.
    – Rev. Jackson: God bless you and keep hope alive…

    [audio src="http://mjjsource.com/main/downloads/interview_jesse_03-05.mp3" /]

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  23. November 19, 2012 11:26 pm

    “Everything you said is right, but you want to make sure you also say that Spirit comes by faith and repentance to Christ as well.”

    Danniel, this post was made by sanemjfan, another author in this blog, so please talk to him about it.

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  24. Rob permalink
    November 19, 2012 12:23 pm

    Vindicatemj (Helena) – Guess whoever runs this site doesn’t like the real truth as my reply below to all Helena’s questions was deleted!

    – Where is Michael Jackson singing “satanic lyrics”?

    Virtually all of the lyrics song by mainstream artists are ultimately satanic in nature. Songs are organized using “witch language”. This is well known in the music industry and the entertainment industry as a whole. Countless insiders & former artists have confirmed this.

    – How do you know that “his god” is not everyone’s God?

    Because the God of the bible does NOT use trance channeling to communicate, NOR is He involved in the music business at ALL. We are told by Him to keep ourselves away and unspotted from the world. Being part of the music industry is to do the exact opposite and involve yourself completely IN the world. Spiritism, sorcery, witchcraft, mediums, those with familiar spirits, astrology, etc. such things are unequivocally listed as works of darkness in the bible.

    – What does it have to do with demons?

    The being that these artists are communing with ARE demons, fallen angels, unclean spirits. Yet they can easily pose as anything as they’re shape shifting spirit beings whose sole job is to deceive. They use these people that will do ANYTHING to become famous, get rich or be in the music industry to do their work of further deceiving the entire world.

    – Can you differentiate who speaks to a demon and who to God? – How can you explain the fact that the first Apostles were able to work miracles in the name of God?

    You know who is speaking to what by the lifestyle that they lead (what they’re into) and whom they obey, whether God or not. God only gives His Spirit to those that Obey Him Acts 5:32. This is how the apostles, Christ, the prophets and other people of God performed their miracles. They kept God’s commandments, especially God’s 7th day Sabbath which is the test commandment (Exodus 31:13,17, 13:9, Ezekiel 20:12, 20 )

    – They were ordinary people, weren’t they? Yes-, until they were called by God, accepted and became baptized, then they became part of God’s true church.
    – By whom were they driven?
    Driven by God’s Holy spirit and the very mind of Christ place in them by the spirit of God.
    Philippians 2:5

    – And how do you know it?
    Through empirical evidence, observation, admission of others, my own dealings with those that were possessed, reading, online research, admission from others as mentioned before, etc.

    When you look at it as a whole and put it all together, the picture becomes as clear as the sun on a cloudless day. There can be and IS in fact NO DOUBT that the entire entertainment industry as a whole, and especially the music industry is rife with demonic activity, as well as blatantly masonic, Illuminati and other occult symbolism, which all hearkens back to Egypt, the Sobekites or “worshipers of the snake” which is the oldest religion known to man. As Satan appeared as a serpent like creature in the garden, it’s simple to see once you have the right knowledge who they’re really worshiping.

    ILLUMINATI Bloodlines of DECEPTION 20 RELOADED – Occult Spirit Killers – Michael Jackson, etc

    Demons behind some of the Greatest Actors- Denzel, Oprah

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  25. Danniel Campbell permalink
    November 19, 2012 5:17 am

    Everything you said is right, but you want to make sure you also say that Spirit comes by faith and repentance to Christ as well.

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  26. Rodrigo permalink
    November 18, 2012 1:23 pm

    In the words of Chandler Bing

    Oh MY God…

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  27. September 24, 2012 4:37 pm

    “you can NOT get anywhere in the music industry without singing Satanic lyrics and communing with demons”.

    Rob, I am getting increasingly amazed by Michael’s fellow countrymen. I have some questions to you:

    – Where is Michael Jackson singing “satanic lyrics”?
    – How do you know that “his god” is not everyone’s God?
    – What does it have to do with demons?
    – Can you differentiate who speaks to a demon and who to God?
    – How can you explain the fact that the first Apostles were able to work miracles in the name of God?
    – They were ordinary people, weren’t they?
    – By whom were they driven?
    – And how do you know it?

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  28. Rob permalink
    September 24, 2012 3:32 pm

    While I do believe that Michael Jackson was the victim of a Massive smear campaign by the Illuminait in all it’s guises of the media, music, PR, police and more… the fact is that he did channel spirits to get his music. This is COMMON in the music industry and is well known. Though Jackson may not have known that he was communicating with demon spirits as they rarely reveal themselves as such, even Kenny Ortega CLEARLY told Oprah shortly after Michaels death on worldwide TV, that MIchael was talking to his god, he was channeling.

    He said this in response to a question that Oprah asked about his health. Kenny was concerned about his health and asked him to take a rest of talking to his god. He said that he can’ rest and that he’s on a roll and he has to get this song from his god. When Kenny asked why it was so important now, can’t he give it to you later on? Michael replied “I can’t do that, he’ll give it to Prince”. The audience laughed and Totally missed the incredible revelation that was right in front of them.

    This is virtual proof of what countless insiders in the music industry have said.. that nearly all songs come from their “higher powers, spirits, guides, gods, demons” or whatever they’re told they’re communing with. The fact is they ARE demon spirits, fallen angels that are giving them these lyrics, music and even possesses them on stage, as even Michael stated as well. This is why even the cover of the film “This is it” has him standing with his arms up to the sides in a big Y, his head down.. it’s a the cloaked form of a Baphomet. Again, I’m not attempting to smear him at all, the media has already done a horrible job of that.. but the fact is that you can NOT get anywhere in the music industry without singing Satanic lyrics and communing with demons. Though Michel was trying to warn the people about all the LIES in the world from the music to the media, history books, schools and more and this is when they started to come after him. But it doesn’t change the fact that fallen angels are where these “stars” get their songs, music and many of their talents and skills from. Even Oprah and Denzel Washington have stated that when acting certain scenes, some power takes them over and gives them the ability to act SO well. Just look it up on Youtube. Peace.

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  29. May 1, 2012 10:23 pm

    Speaking of religions.,check out Wikileaks on Scientology.In US it considers it a religion while not so in most European countries.It wants freedom from taxation in US.We all know who adhered to that religion.Only Wikileaks will give you full and pertinent info.They have expensive secrets they don´t even tell their members.And they are furious over those leaks.

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  30. Curt Pierre permalink
    March 31, 2012 11:45 pm

    Hi! I just wanna say that these pastors should be following everything from the bible not certain things. One of those things are “Judge not or you shall be judged.” according to Mathew 7:1. I heard the sermon from the pastor who called Michael a “girly man.” If this man was truly a man of God then he wouldn’t copy the words of Arnold Schwarzenegger who is part of the Hollywood culture that he and many pastors preach against and, as you probably know, had a love child with his house keeper. My blood was just boiling when he called Michael a pedophile as if he was absolutely certain that God was really talking to him on that. I doubt that he came to that conclusion from reading the bible and I doubt that he was really following the trial. I noticed that most of the people who call MJ a pedophile only had passive interest in the trial and didn’t really follow the trial closely. One of his sources of information was Fox News where he heard about one of the jurors having second thoughts about acquitting Michael. If he was really a man of God he should be preaching the Word of God instead of a right wing ideology that the Tea Party preaches. In the same breath he asked rhetorically “Can you imagine how much tax payers money would be saved if Michael just confessed?” Why should an innocent man confess to something that he didn’t do? Because he may look a certain way or talk a certain way or act a certain way? He also tried to compare MJ’s situation to O.J’s situation. I could tell that this is not a sermon meant to save souls but a sermon meant hate when God is love. Yes, God hates sin but He loves the sinner that’s why He sent His only begotten Son.

    Another example of pastors preaching right-wing ideology instead of the word of God is that guy Pastor Joe Schimmel. In his blog that he wrote to coincide with the release of MJ’s “This is it” he uses the kind of language that most right wing commentators use, among them “liberal media”. Yet he’s copying the same words as “the liberal media” calling Neverland a “pedophile’s paradise” that Michael used Neverland to lure young boys and he makes references to these tabloid books that are part of “The liberal media”. After all the stuff that he wrote in that blog I just stop and wonder. Did God really reveal that stuff to Schimmel or is Schimmel just stating his personal opinion that didn’t come from God? Among his sources of info for the blog was Congressman Peter King. i mean, how does Pastor Schimmel know that everything nasty thing that Congressman King said about Michael was gospel truth? King was stating an opinion, not a fact! How does Pastor Schimmel even know that King is a true man of God? I guess he’s saying that once you’re a Republican you’re a man of God.

    On the guy in that last YouTube video who you call God who list the ten reasons why Micheal’s death matters I have to agree with him on one thing: Life IS too short. However the guy should’ve waited at least a few more months after the memorial and not on the day that the memorial to release the video. That just shows how much contempt that he had for Michael personally. I believe if Christ came today He would’ve rebuked him for that one act. I wonder if these pastors ever questioned how righteous the people who accused Michael of pedophilia were?

    I’m a Christian myself and I believe that God wants me to leave all the judgements to Him. At the end of the day Michael was a human and these pastors are humans and I believe that humans should not try to replace God and cast judgment on other humans. I understand that these pastors are preaching that one should not tolerate a sinful act but while God doesn’t tolerate sinful acts he will tolerate a repented sinner no matter what sinful act he has done.

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  31. sanemjfan permalink
    January 31, 2012 11:00 am

    Thanks for your great comment Brenda! Those videos were posted in early 2010, although I don’t know when they were recorded, or if he still preaches these hate sermons when he visits churches.

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  32. January 31, 2012 7:32 am

    Wow. I just got through watching the interview that took place with Michael on February 25, 1983 in this blog, an interview I have never seen before tonight. I had read this blog one day last week, but as it was getting late on me I didn’t take the time to watch all the videos attached. I love that video! Michael’s smile just blows me away and melts my heart!

    Now…with that out of the way…if you just had that video in this write-up alone and if everyone would just listen to MJ’s angelic voice with an open mind and heart and hear him say that God gave him his music and his talent, that would be all that would be needed in this blog. Unfortunately, so many people need much more proof than the words coming out of his own mouth. God bless MJ’s soul. I remember watching Oprah’s interview with Michael back in 1993 and right when he’s trying to tell her that he tries to live like Jesus because the Bible says to do so, Oprah very rudely cuts him off and says, “Yeah, yeah, yeah” and then goes right into the next question. It really bothered me to see her do that to him and the look on his face when she cut him off just broke my heart! I have also watched other video clips where Michael is trying to tell the interviewers that he gives God credit for his music and his talent and they all…everyone of them…cut him off because for whatever reason they just don’t want to hear that…or maybe to them it sounds cheesy…but he’s trying to tell people that God has blessed him and no one wants to hear it…much like when he said he never molested young boys and some people wouldn’t listen. And Martin Bashir…well we all know what a disaster that turned out to be for poor MJ.

    My heart bleeds for MJ because all he tried to do in life is to love with all this heart, to give with all his talents, time and money, but it was all in vain…well at least here on Earth…and I only mean it was all in vain in the sense that it didn’t help his image. Of course, Michael kept most of all of that a secret because he felt that if he bragged about it, it would take away from the real importance of the actual act of kindness taking place…and he was right…and that’s where Michael’s humbleness comes in, which is another thing the Bible teaches us to do…is be humble. I do wish, though, that more of that had been revealed because more people would have been less likely to believe the horrible things he was accused of, including myself (hanging my head in shame).

    Channeling demon spirits…oh my gosh. Michael couldn’t have been more kinder, more sweeter and more gentler if he tried so how can anyone connect demon spirits to such a gentle soul…someone who knew God put him on this Earth to make a difference. Michael just felt that. I don’t know how people come up with such things. It just kills me. And, how is Michael supposed to channel any kind of spirts when he’s sleeping when the poor guy seemed to never be able to sleep! Didn’t these sermons take place right after MJ died and if so, Mr. Lewis would have known about Michael’s insomnia so why the ridiculous comment about MJ wanting to sleep so badly??? It would stand to reason why he would want to sleep so badly…Because He Suffered From Insomia And Hardly Ever Slept!!!

    The mirrors thing…give me a break! I am totally baffled about this one. I am basically just speechless. I honestly can’t find the words to say to reveal the utter disgust I’m feeling about that one.

    The Giving Tree…absolutely nothing wrong with that…absolutely nothing wrong with having a place to find solace, peace and communication with God and what better place than the top of a tall tree to get as close to God as he could to be inspired for his music! That’s the spirit Michael used to channel his music! NOT demon spirits!

    I love you Michael!!!

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  33. sanemjfan permalink
    January 19, 2012 11:42 pm

    I FINALLY added the video of Larry Nimmer’s test of MJ’s bedroom alarms!🙂 It’s near the end of the post in the section that rebuts Pastor Schimmel!

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  34. sanemjfan permalink
    January 16, 2012 6:59 am

    Guys, I added a parody of what MJ’s “confession” would look like if he had taken that pastor’s advice and turned himself in! It’s at the end, right after bullet point #1!

    It’s HILARIOUS!

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  35. January 9, 2012 9:07 pm

    Thank you so much…I am glad I am not alone in my fight for truth on this subject…I also have a blog to expose the lies of G. Craige Lewis…He has been telling this lie for a long while even before MJ’s death…He came to my church and I was appalled that he was allowed to lie like he is…My pastor defended him and I left the church…Thank you again for publishing the truth.

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  36. January 7, 2012 3:30 pm

    @Truth Prevail yes it’s true about the wedding

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  37. Tahlia permalink
    January 7, 2012 9:21 am

    Thanks for the added commentary Sanemjfan🙂

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  38. Truth Prevail permalink
    January 7, 2012 2:00 am

    How long did Michael and Jimmy Safechuck stay as freinds i heard he had his wedding at Neverland is this true?

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  39. sanemjfan permalink
    January 6, 2012 11:59 pm

    Guys, I added my rebuttals to Pastor Enyart at the bottom of this post! My rebuttals are in red, right after each one of his lies!

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  40. January 6, 2012 5:05 pm

    Michael even helped to demolish the iron cuirtain.I saw a documentary about this. During that time you could see US TV-programs in Helsinki,but not in Tallin(Estonia) only 50 miles south of H:ki.The Estonian authorities of that time did everything to prevent tranmisssion from H:ki to Tallin.But the inhabitants of Tallin beat them .Michaels hip-wiggling caused a tsunami of liberation and traffic jams in Tallin as all country-cousins came to town for these programs.It also caused a peak in birth rates 9 mo´s later and lifted the spirits of the Estonians against their then oppressors. Michael deserves a posthumous medal for this.

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  41. January 6, 2012 9:58 am

    “If someone wiggles his hips or even grabs his crotch (I have my own idea why Michael did it)”
    What are you view on this? I’m interested “

    Tahlia, it is probably not too proper to discuss it in public, but since you are asking… From some pictures of Michael on stage I’ve seen him being a little aroused, if I may say so, probably because of all those girls’ adulation of him. I think he noticed the effect it had on him too and was initially checking on himself to save himself from total embarassment.

    Later it turned into a “ticket” meaning described by Lynette – the gesture he made much more elegantly than before, with his palm closed and just a couple of his fingers spread. But initially I think it was a half-conscious method to check whether it was still okay to perform that way.

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  42. January 6, 2012 6:19 am

    Christina Aquilera said it,”Michael is a nasty naughty boy”,vid.clip by Luluvine.He was a hot sexy piece, too sad he is no longer with us.

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  43. Tahlia permalink
    January 6, 2012 4:06 am

    Vindicatemj

    If someone wiggles his hips or even grabs his crotch (I have my own idea why Michael did it)

    What are you view on this? I’m interested😀

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  44. January 5, 2012 9:36 pm

    Michael, if anyone, was the prime target of evildoers,from representatives of the law, priests representing the godly and above all the media supposed to bring knowledge of our reality in all it´s aspects to the public.And finally falling victim to a doctor with an oath to do no harm.There were some exeptions as we know. To this day he has hate-sites on the net that are most committed to him. Well,it speaks to his importance and perhaps immortality.

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  45. shelly permalink
    January 5, 2012 6:26 pm

    I think it’s because they are jealous. MJ, Elvis and the other could have all the women they wanted and those people probably couldn’t.

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  46. January 5, 2012 5:40 pm

    “There are actually photos of the signs in front of churches that said that Elvis was the Devil.”

    Great comment, Lynette. But I wonder why these “believers” label everyone the devil? I mean why so strong a language? If someone wiggles his hips or even grabs his crotch (I have my own idea why Michael did it), why should these people necessarily be the “devil”?

    It seems that these “believers” are too preoccupied with satanic views themselves if their minds are running along these lines.

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  47. lynande51 permalink
    January 5, 2012 2:00 am

    David you should do a post on a comparison of what ministers and other conservatives used to say about Elvis, The Beatles, and Michael. When Elvis first went on Ed Sullivan he was only allowed to be shown from the waist up and his nickname became Elvis the Pelvis. It was a brave new world but these kinds of guys never missed a beat. There are actually photos of the signs in front of churches that said that Elvis was the Devil and others along the same line. After all Elvis was wiggling his hips and he was handsome so the young girls would scream and faint and buy his music. His pelvis was a marketable item and the Colonel knew it.
    Then came the Lads from Liverpool and they really turned the world on its ear. They had long hair, were anti -establishment and were handsome (I don’t know so much about Ringo he’s questionable). They sang on stage and girls would scream and faint because they were rebellious (they had long hair and girls like bad boys) and they bought their songs. Their manager Brian Epstein knew that and their hair got longer and preachers called John, Paul, George, and Ringo the Four Horsemen.
    Along comes Michael Jackson. He could sing, he could dance and when he was little girls screamed at him and his brothers because they were cute. When he got older when he danced he started grabbing his crotch. That caused quite a stir and more girls than ever before screamed and fainted and Michael Jackson sold his music as a matter of fact it sold so much music he grabbed his crotch even more. It is called “a ticket” meaning that is what people pay to see(use ofthe Roller Derby term of women hitting other women in the chest,it called getting hit in the tickets). The difference is in his case it was not an astute manager that knew this, it was Michael. That is when these pseudo men of God decided he was the Anti-Christ.
    See any similarities?They say it about any new entertainer that introduces a new idea. I bet if you look back they said derogatory things about Ol’ Blue Eyes himself, Frank Sinatra.

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  48. sanemjfan permalink
    January 3, 2012 9:33 pm

    I added the Ed Bradley audio to this post because it fits with the other examples of tabloids (or in his case, the NY Times) using fabricated quotes in their stories.

    I will add the rebuttals to Pastor Enyart’s lies later this week. Thanks!

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  49. January 3, 2012 7:22 am

    Excellent post David. Very well researched. Amazing isn’t it, the lengths some go to invent nonsense about this man?

    One word: Projection.

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  50. Suzy permalink
    January 2, 2012 9:05 pm

    @ kaarin22

    Just because Halperin knows about Alpha 1 antitrypsin deficiency – which anyone can look up in a medical dictionary or on Wikipedia – doesn’t mean Michael had that. And it was obvious that Halperin made it up that Michael had that. He probably looked up a medical condition in the medical dictionary and then claimed that MJ had it. Just look at Wikipedia, all the relevant info about that condition is there.

    That it’s often linked with emphysema. That it’s treated with lung and liver transplantation. Etc. Those are the things he claimed about Michael, but none of it proved to be true by Michael’s autopsy. He didn’t have emphysema. He didn’t need lung transplantation. He didn’t have gastrointestinal bleeding that his doctors had trouble to stop. (Halperin claimed that too.) He also claimed Michael’s condition was so bad that he couldn’t talk and walk any more, let alone sing and dance. That too was a lie as we saw at the TII rehearsals. And he just didn’t have Alpha 1 antitrypsin deficiency, period.

    Halperin is a master of making up lies. The sad thing is that what he said spread in the media like wildfire. And not just in tabloids. This is the best proof of how the so called media becomes tabloid too when it comes to Michael Jackson. Someone claims something about him and they will run with the story without even checking the credibility of the source or even if the source is a tabloid journalist with a history of lies. I really dislike Halperin because he’s such a shameless liar.

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  51. Truth Prevail permalink
    January 2, 2012 6:58 pm

    @Suzy

    Good call its evident craig lewis doesent do any research the sad thing about it is if all his audience actually think hes credible.

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  52. January 2, 2012 4:35 pm

    I never read a book Halperin wrote,but have read out takes and much about him. He must be telepathic knowing so much in detail about Michael and now I hear about Celine also. I can understand that some find him creative. Sure. Long ago he started an extenisive argument with me about alpha 1 trypsin deficiency he claimed that Michael had.
    I must admit he had researched the topic pretty well and sent examples of the most severe cases.But that sort of thing you can find on the net and on medical posts without telepathy.-

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  53. Suzy permalink
    January 2, 2012 8:49 am

    @ Suzy

    “Suzy, could you provide a link to the source please? As you understand it is a very important quote.”

    I don’t know the source. The quote is from the article that David posted from Pastor Enyart at the end of this blog post.

    @ Truth Prevail

    The funny thing about that claim that PT Barnum admired Crowley is that it’s impossible. Barnum lived between 1810 and 1891. Crowley lived between 1875 and 1947, so when Barnum died Crowley was only 16!

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  54. ALTTampa permalink
    January 2, 2012 3:19 am

    David
    I don’t know how much more i can take of these blind and hateful preachers. It seems none of they have an original thought of their own. Just like the media they’re into cut and paste as if doing your own research were a sin. Being a supporter of Michael’s I didn’t realize the battle for the restoration of his good name, image and his legacy would be waged on so many fronts. I guess I didn’t realize the haters exist both inside and outside of the Christian church.

    G Craig Lewis is a joke. First he claims God showed him everything clearly about Michael and his association with Aliester Crowley. He displays a photo of Crowley then he proceeds to say Michael included him on the cover of the Dangerous album. Actually it’s P.T. Barnum on the cover with General Tom Thumb standing on his head. Then to add insult to injury on his blog he has the gall to say ” my bad”? At that point the damage is done. I guess God didn’t nudge him before he made the slip. And for a man of God he reads a physic newletter? I wonder want his congregation has to say about that? As for the number 7, these jokers have no idea the significances this number had for Michael as the seventh child in his family. Not to mention the spiritual meaning of the number 7 is “completion, perfection”. For people who claim they serve the perfect and loving God they certainly appear to be void of any of His qualities. Lewis, Schimmel and Enyart have no problem destoying Michael’s name but not one ever mentioned praying for Michael during his life, or his children and his family after his death. Not one took the time to show a little compassion for a man that was loved by billions and who loved billions. These are the things Christians do. We are commanded to pray for one another. Their poision is spreading on the internet, the very tool they refuse to use when preparing their sermons on Michael. I guess it’s easier to go by what the hacks, like Ian Halperin have to say then checking the facts to ensure you have a good understanding of what you’re talking about. Sad but people like these give loving and compassionate Christians a very bad name.

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  55. sanemjfan permalink
    January 1, 2012 10:59 pm

    @Tahlia
    Yes, the blog is definitely bloated, and it’s hard for people who aren’t very familiar with it to navigate the over 225 posts that we have! We have added numerous catergories and pages (at the top) in order to make it easier, but with that many posts it’s always going to be tough to find information at times. We’ll try our best to streamline things further in the future.

    @Suzy
    I will add my rebuttals to Pastor Enyart’s lies soon. I’m sorry for posting it without them!

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  56. Truth Prevail permalink
    January 1, 2012 5:42 pm

    that craig lewis guy is pathetic he says he made one mistake but i see alot more mistakes! Notice how first he said MJ worshipped alistair crowley but when he found out it was Barnum he changed it to that MJ and Barnum were both worshipping Alistair Crowley HAHAH i guess anything to support his agenda and his crappy Dvd

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  57. January 1, 2012 4:48 pm

    Happy New Year everyone:)

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  58. January 1, 2012 3:30 pm

    I find this one actually an interesting info and a further proof of the NAMBLA agenda regarding MJ that has been often addressed on this blog:

    * NAMBLA Exploits Jackson’s Child Molestation: in the mid-1990s the North American Man Boy Love Association ran a newsletter cover story celebrating the results of their own informal poll showing that a significant percent of the general public would still admire Michael Jackson, even if it were proved conclusively that he sexually molested young boys. By NAMBLA’s analysis, in Europe and America Michael Jackson was helping to undermine the taboo against sex with children.”

    Yes, this is a direct proof of NAMBLA’s agenda regarding Michael. What is top important here is that it is not even necessary for Michael to be really guilty – all they need is making the public think that he was one of them and hope that Michael’s charm, talent and loving attitude will do the rest and eventually warm people’s hearts to him – and simultaneously to thousands of real criminals who are hiding behind the back of this totally innocent man.

    It shows that ped-les are exceptionally interested in smearing Michael. By the way when it comes to their own ilk they never give away each other, as their secrecy is unrivalled. It is when someone is not one of them – this is when they don’t give a damn.

    They want to use Michael as a sort of a Troyan horse. The wooden Troyan horse was not to blame for the troops using it for taking Troya by deceit – it was the soldiers inside it who did it. And once they used it the wooden horse could go on fire.

    Suzy, could you provide a link to the source please? As you understand it is a very important quote.

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  59. January 1, 2012 3:36 am

    “much of the information that refutes hater’s arguments is scattered and can be difficult to find. An example is the information that refutes what Bob Enyart said, the facts that refute those claims are all on here, but it would take me some time to fish through different posts to find it, we need a post which covers all lies said about Michael with links and a short explanation of why the things said are wrong. I love how detailed the information on here is, but when debating with people about all of this they want you to explain things and keep it short.”

    Tahlia, yes, the problem is there and I’ve been thinking of making summary posts. Frankly, it is not very interesting to me – I am always curious to find something new and going back is a big problem for me (but I’ll try). David will also hopefully include some facts and links to refute Bob Enyart’s words. And then we should make a big directory where each question should be addressed with facts, links and documents which can be supplemented as the progress is made.

    Big program, few hands! So if anyone is willing to summarize the information please help us!

    A very Happy New Year to all of you, guys! Hope you are enjoying yourselves greatly as you are seeing the New Year in!

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  60. Tahlia permalink
    January 1, 2012 2:58 am

    I really love this blog, the only problem is that much of the information that refutes hater’s arguments is scattered and can be difficult to find. An example is the information that refutes what Bob Enyart said, the facts that refute those claims are all on here, but it would take me some time to fish through different posts to find it, we need a post which covers all lies said about Michael with links and a short explanation of why the things said are wrong. I love how detailed the information on here is, but when debating with people about all of this they want you to explain things and keep it short.

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  61. Tahlia permalink
    January 1, 2012 2:00 am

    Suzy permalink
    January 1, 2012 1:07 am

    @ David

    I know that these lies and half-truths that Pastor Bob Enyart says here have been all refuted on this blog already, but I think it would be good to add links to those refutations, because this way those allegations are now just in this article without a refutation, if someone comes here and only reads this article.

    I would also like to see links and info that refutes the crap this guy said… then when it’s done send it to him😀

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  62. Suzy permalink
    January 1, 2012 1:58 am

    Happy New Year everyone!

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  63. Susanne permalink*
    January 1, 2012 1:24 am

    A Happy New Year to everybody. May 2012 bring us another step of vindication for Michael.

    It’s incredible how this pastor Joe Schimmel tells his BS as if he were in Michael’s house, in his room, in his bed, in his life, with him on stage, in his hotel rooms, with him everywhere, but only jumping on everything that was written in tabloids at any time and totally ignoring what people say who were really there.
    Once again from Frank Cascio’s book: “One of the biggest misconceptions about Michael, a story that plagued him for years following the Bashir documentary, was that he had an assortment of children sleeping in his room at any given time.The truth was that random children never came to Neverland and stayed in Michael’s room. Just as my brother Eddie and I had done when we were younger, the family and friends who did stay with Michael did so of their own volition. Michael just allowed it to happen because his friends and family liked to be around him.” (p. 261)

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  64. Suzy permalink
    January 1, 2012 1:10 am

    “Enyart is a proponent of corporal punishment of children saying that their “hearts are lifted” by spanking.[7] He was convicted for misdemeanor child abuse in 1994 after beating his girlfriend’s child with a belt so hard that the beating broke the skin.[8][9]”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Enyart

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  65. Suzy permalink
    January 1, 2012 1:07 am

    @ David

    I know that these lies and half-truths that Pastor Bob Enyart says here have been all refuted on this blog already, but I think it would be good to add links to those refutations, because this way those allegations are now just in this article without a refutation, if someone comes here and only reads this article.

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  66. Suzy permalink
    January 1, 2012 12:58 am

    @ David

    I find this one actually an interesting info and a further proof of the NAMBLA agenda regarding MJ that has been often addressed on this blog:

    * NAMBLA Exploits Jackson’s Child Molestation: in the mid-1990s the North American Man Boy Love Association ran a newsletter cover story celebrating the results of their own informal poll showing that a significant percent of the general public would still admire Michael Jackson, even if it were proved conclusively that he sexually molested young boys. By NAMBLA’s analysis, in Europe and America Michael Jackson was helping to undermine the taboo against sex with children.”

    Another interesting part:

    “For 3,500 years Judeo-Christian legal history has outlawed homosexual behavior. About one third of all children sexually molested are boys, and over ninety percent of those boys are hurt by men. (If you, the reader, are in rebellion against God and you don’t care about children, then ignore the previous sentence.) Every man molesting a boy is committing a homosexual act. America’s founding fathers held sodomy to be a crime, and every state outlawed the behavior. The decriminalization of homosexuality in the late 20th century has led to the tortured deaths of millions of its victims worldwide. If you love your neighbor, you’ll warn him that God made us male and female.”

    The guy is clearly homophobic and he’s trying to link p-lia to homosexuality in an attempt to bash gay people. The funny thing is he is actually refuting himself with his quoted statistic when he says “about one third of all children sexually molested are boys” – because that means about two third of all children who are sexually molested are girls! Since we rarely hear about female child molesters (though I’m sure there are some) I will have to assume that most of these p-lic acts then are committed by heterosexual p-les. Both are equally wrong. My point is that homosexual people are not more prone to molest children than heterosexuals.

    This is just a side note I wanted to make – Michael was neither a p-le, nor homosexual.

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  67. January 1, 2012 12:45 am

    Happy New Year, dear co-eds and readers! Over here it is 2012 and the fireworks! I wish all of you a real breakthrough in vindicating Michael and the world becoming a much better, safer and more humane place to live in!

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  68. sanemjfan permalink
    December 31, 2011 11:45 pm

    I added some hateful and downright ridiculous quotes about MJ from a pastor at the end of the post.

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  69. December 31, 2011 8:50 pm

    P.S. to below post.Ofcourse Michael needed to get his sleep. What was so wrong about the last project was that everything was left to the last minute and Michael became both physically and mentally exhausted,like he told his children they worked him like a machine.
    More weight should have been given to him to follow his natural rythm.
    But the there was no good will towards him.

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  70. December 31, 2011 8:29 pm

    Thank you David for this article and a Happy New Year!I will give some more mundane or ordinary examples of Michaels gifts and receiving his music. His gift was from God.I have rarely heard as , or from a child they wouldn´t like a treehouse.Even just climbing up in a tree and sitting there comfortably for a while will give you a special feeling.
    I found one of the lowest points in Bashirs interview when Michael had climbed up into his tree and invited Bashir who was unwilling even to try.Michael looked disappointed.-Then; Room of mirrors;Mirrors have always fascinated people and in the past connected to the supernatural. Now we know it is pure physics, Still they cast some spell.When a young child starts to recognize his mirror image as his self, he will also start to recognize himself as a seaparate person And it is totally understandable that an artist needs to know his body moments and his outfits from all angels.-Dreams- at times we may have found a solution to problems in dreams that do not come during busy daytime hrs.Some dreams need to be written immediatelty or the may flee our imagination.
    When I was a child my grandmother used to sew our dresses,often in inrticate cuts I could never master.She often found the special cuts in her dreams.Today she could have been a fashion designer.Maybe if we have a burning interest for something, God will give us more.

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  71. December 31, 2011 4:13 pm

    David, thank you for the so well-documented part. The video of Richard Masuura refuting Maureen Orth’s lies is a precious find!

    As regards the rest of the videos I cannot believe what I hear in the “sermons” of these “people of God”.

    This is quite an eye-opening experience for me which is both comforting and disturbing. It is comforting to know that madmen live not only in my country but in yours too, but disturbing because there are so many of them and their malady is so grave.

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  72. Suzy permalink
    December 31, 2011 11:11 am

    Or maybe they just quote his articles, but anyway it’s a good indication of who Schimmel’s target audience is.

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  73. Suzy permalink
    December 31, 2011 10:45 am

    I just realized Pastor Joe Schimmel is the guy who runs or writes for the http://www.jesus-is-savior.com website. I usually go there for a good laugh, it’s so ridiculous with all its conspiracy theories. It’s the most extremist Christian fundamentalist stuff, not far off from the Westboro Baptist Church. According to them basically everybody who is not a crazy, extremist Christian fundamentalist like them, is a devil worshipper.

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  74. Tahlia permalink
    December 31, 2011 7:59 am

    This is great David, I was very angry when I saw Schimmel’s stupid video on good fight theatre a few months ago, and I soon realised I wasn’t the only one who thought this “pastor” was and ignorant idiot:

    http://smellslikeshampoo.blogspot.com/2010/01/pastor-joseph-schmmel-of-goodfight-is.html

    After I settled down a bit I emailed the following response to Goodfight theatre:

    [QUOTE]
    To whom it may concern,

    I would like to know where you got your information from on Michael Jackson. I was extremely disappointed to see that you have heavily implied that he was guilty of child molestation. Here are some quick facts for you:
    The settlement was paid by and insurance company and it was for a civil lawsuit. It did not stop the family from testifying in criminal court where it mattered, and they would still get all the money from the civil suit. If he wanted to ‘pay off’ anyone he would have done it months before when Evan first demanded money, that way there would never have been any investigation or press. Explain why he didn’t take that opportunity. This case was wrecked when Jordan failed to accurately describe Michael’s genitals saying he was circumcised, his autopsy report says different.
    If you are interested in the truth as I would expect a Christian site to be, please refer to the following information about the 1993 allegation for thoroughly researched facts regarding the case:
    Jordan Chandler:
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/accusations-against-michael-jackson-overview/
    Was it a MATCH or a total MISMATCH?
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/was-it-match-or-mismatch/
    Civil suit: a way to TRAP Michael Jackson
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/civil-suit-trapped-mj/
    Michael Jackson REGRETTED the civil settlement
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/mj-regretted-the-civil-settlement/
    Why didn’t you pay in AUGUST 1993 to avoid all the nightmare?
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/why-didnt-michael-pay-in-august-1993-to-avoid-all-that/
    SODIUM AMYTAL for Jordan Chandler:
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/sodium-amytal-for-jordan-chandler/
    Proud to be on MICHAEL’S side or why the INSURANCE company wasn’t mentioned in his agreement with Chandlers
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/proud-to-be-on-michael%E2%80%99s-side-and-the-insurance-company/
    The $60 mln.case as the FINAL VERDICT FOR EVAN CHANDLER
    Michael Jackson sequel: Settlement not enough
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/05/15/the-60-mln-case-as-a-final-verdict-for-evan-chandler/
    In The Beginning There was Truth
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/08/28/in-the-beginning-there-was-truth/
    Evan Chandler – David Schwartz phone talk FULL TRANSCRIPT
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/evan-chandler-and-david-schwarz-full-transcript/
    Did Jordan Chandler make a DEPOSITION?
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/did-jordan-chandler-make-a-deposition/
    1993 settlement agreement:
    http://dearjordanchandler.com/?page_id=27
    Was it HUSH money if the family could still TESTIFY?
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/was-it-hush-money-if-the-family-could-still-testify-the-floacist/
    Tom Mesereau had WITNESSES to prove Jordan Chandler lied!
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/tom-mesereau-had-witnesses-that-jordan-lied/
    Thorough examination of the 1993 case
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/history-vs-evanstory-the-1993-allegations-part-1/
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/history-vs-evanstory-the-1993-allegations-part-2/
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/history-vs-evanstory-the-1993-allegations-part-3/

    If you intend to present warnings to Christians about other people I suggest you get your facts right and research things properly. Many of the things you say in the video about Michael are from unreliable sources, and I’m also very annoyed at the fact that you haven’t bothered to say what your sources are or how well you checked them. I appreciate that you are trying to do the right thing, but saying things about a man you have not got correct information on is wrong. The song We Are The World has been misunderstood by you and I believe you have taken the entire thing the wrong way. I have contacted the owners of the blog which I posted links to, and I believe they will shed further light on the inaccuracies of the things said in your video. [/QUOTE]

    I sent this to them at least 3 months ago, and I never heard back. I was not surprised! This is one of the most disgusting displays of ignorance that I’ve seen anyone show, and this guy trying to claim that everything he said is fact is worse! You should email him links to this series David, if he replies I’d be interested to see if he’s humble enough to admit he was wrong or if he stays prideful and keeps his view.

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  75. December 31, 2011 7:13 am

    Good posting. What these preachers are saying about Michael is totally ludicrous to me. They’re worse than the tabloids because their followers probably think they got their information straight from God. There’s a little book that came out about a year ago entitled “Michael Jackson: In Search of Neverland”, by Gloria Rhoads Berlin, the realtor who helped MJ buy the property. It’s a fascinating story, especially when she discusses Bill Bones, the previous owner, and what kind of things he had already built-in when Michael arrived, such as the secret room and secret passages, etc. I was trying to find out if the alarm was already in place, too, but the book doesn’t mention it. It seems that none of the precautions Michael took were unusual for someone who owns such a spread.

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  76. Suzy permalink
    December 31, 2011 3:52 am

    – I believe too that Physics News interview was made up. In 1987 Michael was still a Jehova’s Witness, so I doubt he would have given interviews about channeling spirits. Plus this was a period when he rarely gave interviews at all. So why would he give an interview to some British spiritist magazine of all magazines?

    – I know it’s not the point I have to say that argument that MJ gives for creationism (the engine that you take apart and shake up) is a thousand times refuted creationist argument and it usually comes from people who don’t understand the theory of evolution and how natural selection works. I love MJ but I had to say it. By the way not all religious people take the Bible’s creation story literally and deny evolution. For example here is the BioLogos Foundation lead by geneticist, Francis Collins, who is very religious. But he accepts evolution and the evidences for it (as an intellectually honest geneticist he can’t really do anything else): http://biologos.org/
    But yeah, someone who uses this creationist argument that MJ used is probably very religious and that was the point.

    – Ian Halperin was mentioned again in this article, so let me show you a link to his book about Celine Dion (curiously even in that book there is a full chapter dedicated to Michael Jackson!): http://www.amazon.com/CELINE-DION-Fairytale-Unauthorized-Biography/dp/0965958302/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325287561&sr=8-1

    The re-views speak for themselves:

    “I would not recommend this book for someone who knows very little about Celine. I am a huge fan of four years and have done much independent research in both the English and French languages that can discount almost every “fact” Halperin claims. The inability to quote real sources just further takes away from Halperin’s credibility. It is as much the truth as the Enquirer’s claims that aliens exist.

    Knowing that, I would recommend it to any fan with a real sense of humor, because believe me you will laugh your (…) off. Some highlights include the chapter about Michael Jackson (just the mental picture of Celine screaming out “He is too sexy for me!” about the plastic one is enough), another great story is about her and Rene getting it on in the hot tub with the video camera on. Just imagine Celine and Rene…or actually don’t it’s quite scary. Too bad his “informants” missed the time Celine tried to “commit suicide” by shoving a whole ball of wasabi mustard in her mouth while in Tokyo (official bio), that was a good one.

    In short Halperin is [lousy] at writing the facts, but boy is he a terrific creative writer. Definately worth reading but take it with a conspiracy sized grain of salt. “

    Another:

    “I order this book because I thought it would give me a different perspective about Celine and Rene’s life together. This book is so inaccurate and full of gossip with no valid fact, “a maid who use to work for Celine said this, a musician who use to work for the couple said that.” The author claims to be a “investigative reporter”. Yea right, just a bunch of made up garbage. If I had submitted this book to my high school English teacher as a research paper, I would have received an F. What a waste of my $2.00. “

    Another:

    “First of all…she is NOT anorexic! Who cares what the cousin of the ex housekeepers long lost brother in law said. All this is based on loose gossip and to honestly print this information as fact is ridiculus. Why don’t you write for a tabloid (actually Halperin DOES write for tabloids) because thats obviously the gutter from which your thoughts are conceived. You don’t deserve your journalist award..b/c you make journalists across the board look bad. This is the worst book i’ve ever read and you should be ASHAMED!”

    Another:

    I live in Montreal, so I know the “real” stuff about Celine Dion. This book is useless. I was laughing throughout it. Yes, how can they know about what goes on in the hot tub on their honeymoon giving word for word quotes. Proposterous! Incredibly suspicious and I too found the songs had wrong names or dates were wrong. I didn’t take this book seriously and would never have this pint-sized little handbook of lies in my library. It just wouldn’t fit in with the other reputable books.I returned it because I wouldn’t want to contribute to the evils of society. Shame on the author. I do not recommend that anyone buys this book.”

    That’s the kind of reputation Halperin has!

    – As for the pastors in this article. All I can say is: their hatred is unbelievable. I also thought Christians were not supposed to base their judgements of people on gossip, half-truths and lies.

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  77. December 31, 2011 2:47 am

    @ My Immortal Beloved
    I don’t understand what you’re saying. Where and when did she say those things about “other” babies?

    The reason I referenced it her is because the press completely fabricated her quotes about not wanting her own kids, and I felt that would be a great example to show how this really happens to celebrities. And the fact that the press has reduced her to the “Octomom” caricature the same way they reduced MJ to the “Wacko Jacko” caricature is signficant as well, because it shows that you cannot believe everything you see and hear in the press.

    If you still disagree with her inclusion in this post, can you explain in more detail why? Thank you.

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  78. December 31, 2011 2:08 am

    So as not to dilute your point about complete fabrications by the press, it is probably best to remove the “Octomom” example. She does say those things about “other” babies and small children in general but denies feeling this way towards her own. Regardless, of this distinction, her attitude doesnt do much to help Michael’s case. Other this this, this article is on point and I admire your dedication and devotion. In face, you inspired my own advocacy.

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