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February 28th – March 1st, 2005 Trial Analysis: Summary of Sneddon and Mesereau’s Opening Statements

May 9, 2012

I will begin my analysis of the 2005 trial of Michael Jackson by summarizing the prosecution’s and defense’s opening statements in this post. Before I begin, I want to give readers an overview of what I set out to accomplish with this arduous task of summarizing the entire 2005 trial (which began on February 28th and ended on June 13th), and I also want to show you one of the most important yet overlooked fundamental facts about the trial:

I have read many excellent pieces of work about the trial, mainly “The Michael Jackson Conspiracy” by Aphrodite Jones (many of her interviews are compiled in this post), as well as the different Associated Press daily trial summaries (which are stored on the MJ Upbeat, Michael Jackson Fan Club, and Genius Michael Jackson websites), CBS News daily summaries, and the Veritas Project (which was an investigative report written by fans to rebut the negative and inaccurate press, and gives the definitive timeline of the allegations, as well as important background information on the major players).  I have also spent a considerable amount of time reading the testimonies of many witnesses, as well as numerous pleadings by both the defense and prosecution, and there is so much that I’ve learned that isn’t available in any of those aforementioned resources!

So I decided that since I have possession of all of the testimonies and court pleadings from the trial, that I will write a summary of each and every single witness so that I could help educate both current and future generations of Michael Jackson fans who may be unable to find or purchase “MJ Conspiracy”, or who simply want a quick reference for researching who said what, and when. And since I’ve been complimented numerous times by other fans about how I should write a book about the trial, this is the next best thing to actually doing so! In fact, in many ways blogging about the trial is more efficient than writing a book because I won’t have any time or space constraints, I won’t have to cave in to publisher’s demands as to what to include and exclude, and I can have links to other blogs, articles, and videos. You can use the “Testimonies at the 2005 Trial Summary and Analysis” category (located at the right hand side of the page) to quickly search through our archive of testimony summaries.

This is going to be a laborious and exhausting process for me, but in the end I feel it will be worth it, because I will be able to do my part to help educate both current and future generations of MJ fans with the complete truth of what happened during the 2005 trial. After receiving emails like the one below from fans who are in high school and college, and are using this blog to help them thoroughly and accurately research the allegations, I feel more emboldened than ever to bring my goal of summarizing the entire trial to fruition!

 

As someone who has been researching Jackson for almost 3 years, I must say that it’s very disappointing that there are many hardcore fans (and advocates for that matter) who have a very complacent and nonchalant attitude towards researching the allegations and knowing all of the intricate facts backwards and forwards (as I stride to do daily!). So many times I’ve talked to fans and advocates about the allegations, and the possibility of reading through all of the transcripts and pleadings, and they say things like “I don’t need to know all of the facts! I already know he was innocent, and set up by Sneddon! Besides, I’ve already read Michael Jackson Conspiracy by Aphrodite Jones!”, or words to that effect. To me, relying solely on “Michael Jackson Conspiracy” (or any other book or article about the allegations) is similar to relying exclusively on the Cliff’s Notes summary of Romeo & Juliet, instead of taking the time to actually read the play!

Reading “Michael Jackson Conspiracy” is not the end of your research on the trial; it is actually the BEGINNING of your research! You shouldn’t become stagnant and satisfied with the information that you know about the trial; you should strive to become as knowledgeable as possible, so that you can help spread that knowledge to others.

Because of the intense research that the admins of the blog have dedicated to investigating the allegations, we’ve been able to discover a lot of pertinent facts that we otherwise would not have known because they were not included in any other books or articles written about the trial. For example, because we have taken the time to read many of the court pleadings, our admin Helena was able to reveal to our readers that Jordan Chandler’s uncle Ray Chandler was subpoenaed to testify in court in September 2004 about the contents of his book “All That Glitters”, which was ghostwritten by Jordan’s father Evan Chandler and insinuates that Jackson was guilty in 1993.  But Ray wasn’t subpoenaed by the prosecution, as you would assume, but by the defense! And despite the fact that he gleefully promoted his book in numerous television interviews, he took legal action to quash Mesereau’s subpoena to testify, and he won! The subpoena was sealed, and the general public was never privy to this information until well after the trial concluded. Helena did a multi-part series on Ray’s subpoena, and you can read them here.  Similarly, she did a multi-part series on MJ’s art collection, which the prosecution tried to argue was homosexual and child erotica in order to prejudice both the jury and the general public.

I want to make it as easy as possible for both fans and skeptics to know exactly who testified in 2005, what they said, and what impact their testimony had on the case. I want to make bullet points out of all of the lies said about Jackson, and cross reference different people’s testimonies against each other to check for material discrepancies, similar to how we cross-referenced the discrepancies between June Chandler’s 2005 testimony and Jordan Chandler’s 1993 interview with Dr. Gardner, and how we did the same with Jason and Blanca Francia’s testimonies. (Additionally, I have compiled a list of journalists and lawyers who accurately reported on the trial in this post. They were certainly in the minority!) While many people may find these summaries to be long and boring (especially for some of the prosecution’s non-relevant expert witnesses), these summaries will be like a gift from heaven for students researching the case for their class projects, or for journalists and/or fans who decide to write books or essays about Jackson.

So having said all that, I will begin this series with my summary of the prosecution and defense’s opening statements from February 28th and March 1st, 2005. But first, let’s look at a major, significant, and substantial discrepancy between the charges that were leveled at Jackson shortly after his arrest and his indictment: 

After MJ’s arrest on November 21st, 2003, there was rampant speculation as to who his accuser(s) was (were), what type of accusations the accuser(s) was (were) making about Jackson, the number of accomplices in Jackson’s inner circle that may have aided and abetted Jackson, etc. (You can watch the complete press conference of District Attorney Tom Sneddon and Sheriff Jim Anderson here on the MJ Truth Now website.) Here is a compilation of the media’s coverage of Jackson’s arrest:

On November 30th, 2010, journalist Charles Thomson conducted an interview with Jackson’s former manager Dieter Wiesner and spokesperson Stuart Backerman about the events surrounding the filming of the “One More Chance” video, which was cancelled on the second day of filming due to the Neverland raid. Here is what Wiesner had to say about Jackson’s reaction to finding out that Neverland had been raided, and that his new accuser was none other than Gavin Arvizo!

Dream Turns into a Nightmare

At roughly 8.30 next morning Stuart Backerman and Jackson cohort Marc Schaffel spoke on the telephone to discuss their departure for Europe the following day. Their conversation was interrupted by an incoming telephone call for Schaffel from Joe Marcus, a security coordinator at Neverland. “It was a weird hour for Joe to be calling,” says Backerman, “so Schaffel said he would call me back.”

A short while later Backerman’s telephone rang. “You gotta turn on the television,” said Schaffel. Backerman switched on his TV and saw the now famous helicopter images of police swarming Michael Jackson’s Neverland Ranch. Led by District Attorney Tom Sneddon, 70 sheriffs from the Santa Barbara Police Department had been dispatched to raid Michael Jackson’s home. “Honestly,” Backerman recalls, “You would have thought it was an army battalion going into an Iraqi village. There were so many of them.”

His heart sank. “At that moment I realized that the European trip and the whole MJ Universe project was finished because by that point Diane Dimond was on, revealing that it was all over a second charge of child molestation.

“Michael was just getting ready to leave the 1993 allegations behind and rebrand himself. We’d just finished dealing with the Martin Bashir scandal and here it was again.” He sighs. “Here it was again.”

In Las Vegas, it fell on manager Dieter Wiesner to break the news to Michael Jackson. “Michael was still in his room,” Wiesner explains. “He was sitting next to the fireplace when I came in and he was very quiet. I had to tell him and it was not easy to tell Michael things like this because he was in such a good mood. He saw a future. When the Bashir situation arose he was very down. Now everything had changed and Michael was ready to do new things. Then, to go to his room and tell him such a bad situation… it was a disaster.

“I told him, ‘Michael, there is bad news but on the other side you have to see it as also good news. The bad news is the police are on the ranch.’ Michael was completely shocked. I was sitting next to him; I had my arm on his shoulder.

“He looked at me and he was really… You could see the blood going out of his face. He was deeply shocked. But I told him, ‘Michael, now you have the chance finally to clear up everything. Once and forever you can clear up everything.'”

News spread quickly amongst the crew. “I saw it on TV that morning and by the time I got to the hotel lobby, everybody else had already found out,” says a crew member. “So we went to work as normal and waited to see what was going to happen.

“Of course, when we got to the soundstage it was a complete zoo with paparazzi and fans. It had leaked where we were shooting. The day before, nobody knew we were shooting or anything.

“We waited that entire day for Michael to come and I think we went back a second day. Then he called finally and said, ‘I’m just not going to be able to come’.”

Jackson spent much of those two days crying, says Dieter Wiesner. “I was sitting with him day and night. He was shocked; he was crying… he didn’t know what to do. It was such a bad situation. We were supposed to go to Europe. He was ready to move on in his life and everything was prepared. It was just a beautiful situation and this news shocked him deeply. Really, it killed him.”

Two days after the Neverland raid Jackson’s depression turned to anger. When it emerged that the boy behind the accusation was none other than Gavin Arvizo, the boy whose hand Jackson had held in the Martin Bashir documentary, Jackson decided to fight.

“You know, when it was clear that this allegation was because of the Arvizos, then he started to really fight the situation,” says Wiesner. “Michael told me, ‘Dieter, you know what, they should bring this young boy into a big place, invite all the press and he should look me in the eyes and tell me that I did this.’ So he was ready to fight.”

That the allegation had come from the Arvizos made the ruination of the MJ Universe project even more galling for Stuart Backerman. “Sneddon didn’t have anything except the word of Janet Arvizo, and she was totally crazy,” says Backerman. “And I know that because I was there and I saw her. She had a track record as long as my right arm. Sneddon just wanted to get Jackson.

“It’s very frustrating to this day. We had the world’s greatest celebrity and he was more focused than he had been for a long time. But the whole thing got cut off by Sneddon.”

It’s important to note what Wiesner said that Jackson wanted to fight the charges, because after his arrest the media went crazy with wild stories about Jackson being suicidal at the thought of being charged with child abuse and facing jail time. (It also fit their narrative that Jackson was guilty, and hence suicidal.)

Shortly after Jackson’s arrest, the Statement of Probable Cause (written by Detective Paul Zelis) was released, and it included the alleged timeline of the allegations, as well as Det. Zelis’ own “diagnosis” of Jackson’s predatory characteristics.

One important fact that jumped out to me as I read this document is that, according to Det. Zelis, Gavin’s younger brother Star Arvizo claimed to have been molested by Jackson while riding on a golf cart at Neverland. Det. Zelis describes these claims on pages 12, 23, & 50:

When asked, Star said Michael Jackson touched him inappropriately. The incident occurred when they were in a golf cart. Star was driving the golf cart and Michael was next to him. Michael then reached over and touched Star’s “testicles and penis” over his clothes with Michael’s left hand. He did not say anything to Michael and continued driving the golf cart.

Yet, Michael Jackson was never charged with molesting Star! Instead, when Tom Sneddon filed his initial felony complaint against Michael Jackson on December 18th, 2003, it consisted of the following allegations by ONLY Gavin, which allegedly occurred from February 7th through March 10th, 2003:

  • 7 counts of lewd acts upon a child
  • 2 counts of administering an intoxicant

However, in the grand jury indictment that was filed on April 21st, 2004, the dates of the alleged offenses shifted to February 20th through March 12th, 2003, and the charges were materially altered as follows:

  • 4 counts of lewd acts upon a child
  • 1 count of an attempted lewd act upon a child
  • 4 counts of administering an intoxicant
  • 1 count of conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment, and extortion

Why is there such a discrepancy between the charges in the Initial Complaint and the Grand Jury Indictment? We’ll find out as we go through the opening statements, as we discover some important exculpatory information that was discovered by the prosecution shortly after the filing of the initial complaint, which completely rocked their world!

Here is Mesereau’s explanation as to why the prosecution added the conspiracy charge in their Grand Jury Indictment of Jackson; this excerpt is taken from the September 2010 Frozen in Time seminar, which is transcribed in this post:

The prosecution was out to get him in the best way that they could, and I understand that, but I think the person they chose as the victim, as the accuser, and particularly that person’s family, were really a disaster for them. They brought a conspiracy charge that Michael Jackson had masterminded a criminal conspiracy to abduct children, commit extortion, and falsely imprison a family. Michael Jackson couldn’t even imagine such behavior, let alone orchestrate it. And what that charge did for them, and I can’t get in the minds of the prosecutors, but here’s what I think they were doing, is that allowed the mother, who was really the lynchpin of that a lot of the case, to bring in co-conspirator hearsay under the exception. It allowed them to intimidate witnesses who were at Neverland because they would too fearful they would be indicted as conspirators. Great conspiracy here! The only person they charged was Michael Jackson. Everyone else was unindicted. She brings hearsay testimony in, the witnesses that can refute it are terrified to come to court for fear that they’ll be indicted, so they lawyer up. And plus, it makes Michael Jackson look like this “Mafioso-type” guru, which he’s not even capable of being.

On June 29th, 2004, Jackson’s defense team filed a massive 212 page motion titledNOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION TO SET ASIDE THE INDICTMENT”, which was an attempt to have Jackson’s grand jury indictment thrown out due to the following reasons (here are some of their bullet points):

The So-Called “Evidence” Presented to the Jury: much of the evidence presented was inadmissible over objection at trial.

The Indictment Constituted an Unwarranted Prosecution: Tom Sneddon and his prosecutors abused the grand jury process by bullying witnesses, allowed prejudicial material to be used as evidence, argued improper inferences to the jurors, etc.

The Admissible Evidence Is Insufficient To Establish A Strong Suspicion Of The Elements Necessary To Show Mr. Jackson Was Part of a Conspiracy: Innuendo, guilt by association, inflammatory and prejudicial material was presented as evidence and influenced the jury to indict.

Mere Association With The Perpetrator of a Crime Is Not Sufficient Evidence To Establish Participation In A Criminal Conspiracy: Mr. Jackson was the only alleged co-conspirator who was indicted despite the fact that, even under the prosecution’s version of facts, based on inadmissible evidence, he was the lease involved in the conspiracy of any of the alleged co-conspirators.   

The Prosecution Presented The Grand Jury With A Tremendous Amount of Inadmissible And Irrelevant Evidence: The fact that prosecutors introduced inadmissible evidence, bullied witnesses, allowed extremely prejudicial material to come in, gave short shrift to the law, vouched for their version of facts over that of sworn witnesses, and argued improper inferences, is an additional basis to set aside the indictment.

For obvious reasons, I will not reprint the entire transcript of the opening statements (or anyone’s testimony, for that matter), as it is entirely too long and too boring for a blog. I intend to use bullet points to summarize the opening statements, however. Before I start with Sneddon’s opening statement, I want to give you a quote from Judge Rodney Melville’s statement to the defense, prosecution, and jury, about the meaning of an opening statement:

An opening statement is not evidence. Because it is not evidence, do not take any notes during the opening statement. Neither is it argument. Counsel are not permitted to argue the case at this point in the proceedings. An opening statement is simply an outline by counsel of what he or she believes or expects the evidence will show in this trial. Its sole purpose is to assist you in understanding the case as it is presented to you.

Here is a basic overview of Sneddon’s opening statement, taken from journalist Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone Magazine. I don’t think he could have put it more succinctly!

The prosecution’s case therefore boils down to this: in a panic over negative publicity, Jackson conspires to kidnap a boy and force him to deny acts of molestation that in fact never happened, and then he gets over his panic just long enough to actually molest the child at the very moment when the whole world is watching.

It is a fantastic argument, a bilious exercise in circular prosecutorial logic: conspiracy to commit conspiracy, false imprisonment for the sake of it, followed by a sudden act of utter self-destructive madness. And none of it makes sense, until you actually watch Sneddon operate in court.

And here is CBS News Legal Analyst Andrew Cohen’s reaction to Sneddon’s opening statement:

If style mattered over substance, and sometimes it does in court, than the defense has the advantage after the first day of the trial. Sneddon’s opening statement was plodding and included way too many dates, names and petty details. Moreover, it meandered willy-nilly back and forth along the timeline that jurors will need to grasp if they are to convict Jackson. By the end, the monologue seemed like a book about Russian history, where all the names are so jumbled together and unfamiliar that they lose most of their meaning. That’s not a recipe for a good start to a long criminal trial.

Now, there was only so much Sneddon could do with a case that involves so many different characters, most of whom he says were acting at Jackson’s behest. But surely Sneddon could have simplified the presentation more than he did. There will be plenty of time in this case to offer details and nuance and complexity– opening statements should be a time for clarity, for themes, for sucking jurors into a compelling story that they will keep with them during the long days ahead. Sneddon obviously didn’t lose the case Monday– I’ve seen plenty of terrible opening statements precede big trial victories– but he didn’t take full advantage of his opportunity, either.

Why would Taibbi and Cohen be so hard on Sneddon? Let’s find out! I will make a bullet point summary of the opening statements, but before we get to it, I would like to prove to you the authenticity of the court transcripts that I will be using to summarize the trial:

Here is an email correspondence between myself and the official court reporter who transcribed everyone’s testimony from the trial, Michelle Mattson McNeil, RPR, CRR, CSR #3304:

Here is a sample of the  certification of the testimony that is included at the end of the transcript of each day’s testimony:

 

Here is an explanation what those certifications mean:

  • Certified Shorthand Reporter: This credential certifies a candidate’s written knowledge and dictation. The candidate must score at least 75% on the written knowledge portion of the test. The dictation portion of the exam requires the candidate to attain 95% accuracy for 5 minutes at 200 words per minute (wpm) of variable material and 95% accuracy for 5 minutes at 225 wpm of two-voice testimony. The candidate must also transcribe both sections of the dictation portion within a three-hour time limit.
  • Registered Professional Reporter: This credential certifies a candidate’s understanding and use of the English language, grammar and spelling, technology, medical and legal terminologies, and the ability to accurately write and translate varying types of material at high speeds. The nationally recognized RPR examination includes a three-part skills test and a Written Knowledge Test (WKT). The skills portion of the exam is a dictation test of literary matter at 180 wpm, jury charge at 200 wpm and testimony at 225 wpm. The WKT portion additionally tests those areas of knowledge needed to perform the duties of a court reporter, such as English language, relevant technology, diverse terminology, courtroom rules and procedures, transcript format, use of research materials, and professional responsibility.
  • Certified Realtime Reporter: This credential certifies a candidate’s ability to write realtime at variable speeds ranging from 180 to 200 words per minute at a minimum “first pass” accuracy rate of 96%. The CRR candidate must possess the requisite knowledge to implement the necessary technology to immediately generate and provide an electronic file of the realtime transcript.

And to verify the authenticity of the court pleadings that I will reference throughout this series, here is information about theRemote Electronic Access for Extraordinary Criminal Cases website, which was set up by the Superior Court of Santa Barbara County as way for the media and general public to be able download the official court transcripts and pleadings without bombarding the staff with requests, which would have been unprecedented due to the unusual amount of interest in the case. Judge Rodney Melville discussed the formation of this website during the Frozen In Time seminar in September 2010, and here’s an excerpt:

On another level, we sought help from the judicial counsel. There were huge numbers of motions and declarations through the pretrial hearings. It totaled thousands of pages, and the clerk’s office couldn’t possibly handle the large demand for copies of everything that was filed. So we made application to the judicial counsel to have them amend the rule to already allow access to civil cases. We wanted that changed to allow electronic access to this criminal case and other unusual criminal cases. In a highly debated session, members of the judicial council voted 9-to-9 on this rule. This required the chief justice to break the tie, and he voted to allow us to have this new electronic rule allowing unusual criminal cases to be displayed electronically. Without this rule change, we would have required at least two or three more clerks, and certainly more sophisticated copying information, or support electronics. So to this day, whenever I see the Chief Justice I think him again for breaking that tie vote!

Here is a video that describes the creation of the website. Notice at the 5:35 mark, SBC Executive Officer Gary Blair mentions how the site prevents the media from sensationalizing documents that don’t even exist, and Richard Goldman, Dean of Santa Barbara College of Law, states that the site prevents the media from running rampant with speculation. (Although they still managed to do so anyway!)

So now there should be no questions about the authenticity of the transcripts or the pleadings. Let me now take the opportunity to introduce everyone to the judge, prosecution, and defense attorneys in the Jackson trial:

Judge Rodney Melville: Here is his bio from the Superior Court of California website:

Appointed to the Municipal Court Bench by Governor George Deukmejian in 1987, Judge Melville served in that capacity for 3 years. Elevated by Governor Deukmejian in 1990 he served on the Superior Court for 17 years. Judge Melville retired as Judge for the Superior Court in 2007. During his 20 years on the bench Judge Melville experienced every type of litigation and completed three terms of service as the Court’s Presiding Judge.

    As a Superior Court Judge he had extensive experience in Criminal, Civil, Family Law and Probate matters. He was instrumental in establishing the Court’s first Substance Abuse Treatment Court. As a private attorney in the firm of Melville & Iwasko he distinguished himself as a competent and capable trial lawyer with his work in Criminal and Civil matters. During this time he became a State Certified Specialist in Family Law. Prior to moving to Santa Maria in 1971 he served as a deputy district attorney in the San Bernardino County District Attorney’s Office for 2 years.

Prosecutors:

Thomas Sneddon, District Attorney

Ron Zonen, Assistant District Attorney

By the way, Zonen mentioned the use of pretext phone calls in cases that he’s prosecuted, but Gavin refused to make one to Jackson in this case! Here is an excerpt from Mesereau’s closing statement on June 3rd, 2005:

16 But typically in this kind of investigation,

17 you have what is called a pretext phone call. 

18 Typically, the police will get the alleged victim, 

19 they will sit with the alleged victim, and they will 

20 talk about making a phone call to the person who’s 

21 suspected of committing the crime. And I’m sure 

22 you’re familiar with this from television. They 

23 will make the phone call. The so-called victim 

24 makes the call, and the so-called victim is told to 

25 ask certain questions that are incriminating in 

26 nature. 

27 For example, Gavin could have called Michael 

28 Jackson and said, “Why did you improperly touch me? 12935 

1 Why did you do that to me in bed? Why did you touch 

2 me that day we were together? Why, when we were in 

3 the wine cellar drinking, did you do this or do 

4 that?” And typically the police are listening in, 

5 and they’re recording it, and that becomes their 

6 primary evidence. 

7 Now, particularly in a case like this, where 

8 you have no independent witnesses, with credibility, 

9 watching the alleged molestation, and you have no 

10 forensic evidence to support it, you would think, if 

11 they did anything, it would have been a phone call 

12 like that. 

13 You know why they didn’t do it? 

14 Look at that police interview. Gavin 

15 refuses. Doesn’t want to make a call to Michael 

16 Jackson. And Gavin is someone who has been schooled 

17 by his parents to very effortlessly call 

18 celebrities, one after another, after another, after 

19 another. He’s not shy about phone calls. He’s not 

20 shy about contacting Jay Leno, Chris Tucker, Michael 

21 Jackson, Suli McCullough, you name it. 

22 Why no recorded phone conversation with an 

23 incriminating statement from Michael Jackson? 

24 Because he knew if he did that, he wouldn’t get an 

25 incriminating statement, because it didn’t happen. 

26 Now, they’ll probably tell you he was 

27 terrified, he was scared, he was traumatized to be 

28 on the phone. That’s a bunch of baloney. 12936

Gordon Auchincloss, Assistant District Attorney: Here is his bio from the Santa Barbara County website:

Gordon Auchincloss, Chief Deputy District Attorney, South County

 J. Gordon Auchincloss has been a Deputy District Attorney for the Santa Barbara District Attorney’s office for twenty years. During that time, he has served as a Senior Deputy District Attorney, Acting Chief Trial Deputy and Acting Chief Assistant District Attorney. Over his career, he has successfully prosecuted over a thousand cases including murder, attempted murder, major sex crimes, major narcotics vendors and major white-collar crimes. 

Raised locally, Gordon attended high school, college and law school in Santa Barbara. He currently sits on the board of the PARC Foundation and The Santa Barbara Children’s Museum and is a longstanding volunteer for The Counsel on Alcoholism and Drug Abuse Fighting Back program acting as both a mentor and a Teen Court judge. 

In July 2010, Gordon was appointed Chief Deputy District Attorney by District Attorney Joyce Dudley. In that capacity he is currently assigned to supervise vulnerable victim crimes including sex crimes and crimes involving domestic violence; financial crimes and misdemeanor operations. Gordon is also tasked with forming and supervising a new prosecution team to focus on White-Collar Crime including Major Fraud cases, Financial Elder Abuse and Cyber Crimes.

Defense Attorneys

Thomas Mesereau & Susan Yu:

Robert Sanger:

Brian Oxman (who was fired before the trial ended):

I want to take this moment to define the meaning of some very common courtroom jargon that readers will need to understand in order to comprehend what is going on in the courtroom as they read the transcripts:

Objection: An ‘objection’ is simply a kind of motion. An ‘objection’ is asking the judge to exclude evidence that the other side is seeking to offer. For example, you might object that a question calls for hearsay. Or, you might object that the information sought by the question is irrelevant. So, an ‘objection’ is asking the judge to make a ruling that an evidence that the other side seeks to offer is inadmissible.

Sustained: Sustained means that a judge has upheld an objection; so if a party objects that a question calls irrelevant information, for example, and the judge sustains the objection, then that question will not be answered and the adversary has to ask another question.

Overruled: Overruled is the opposite of sustained. This means that the judge disagrees with the objection, that it is not the thing that the objection is valid and will let either a question stand if the objection was to the answer of the question or will let the answer stand if the objection was to the answer.

http://www.videojug.com/interview/courtroom-jargon-2

Here are a list of the most common types of objections in a criminal trial.

COMMON TRIAL OBJECTIONS

1. “Objection, your Honor, the question is ambiguous.”

A question is ambiguous if:

It may be misunderstood by the witness. It is objectionable on the ground that it may take on more than one meaning.

2. “Objection, your Honor, the question is argumentative.”

A question is argumentative if:

It is asked for the purpose of persuading the jury or the judge, rather than to elicit information.

It calls for an argument in answer to an argument contained in the question.

It calls for no new facts, but merely asks the witness to concede to inferences drawn by the examiner from proved or assumed facts.

3. “Objection, your Honor, the question has been asked and answered.”

A question may be objectionable on the ground that the witness has already answered a substantially similar question asked by the same attorney on the same subject matter.

4. “Objections, your Honor, the question assumes facts not in evidence.”

A question assumes facts not in evidence if:

It presumes unproved facts to be true. Example: “When did you stop beating your wife?” This question assumes that the person has beaten his wife.

5. “Objection, your Honor, the question is compound.”

A question is objectionable on the ground that it is compound if:

It joins two or more questions ordinarily joined with the word “or” or the word “and.”

6. “Objection, your Honor, the question is too general.”

A question is too general, broad, or indefinite, if:

It permits the witness to respond with testimony which may be irrelevant or otherwise inadmissible. Each question should limit the witness to a specific answer on a specific subject.

7. “Objection, your Honor, the question is hearsay.”

A question is hearsay if:

It invites the witness to offer an out-of-court statement to prove the truth of some matter in court. There are many exceptions to the hearsay rule.

A question is irrelevant if:

It invites or causes the witness to give evidence not related to the facts of the case at hand.

8.”Objection, your Honor, the question is leading.”

A question is leading if:

It is one that suggests to the witness the answer the examining party desires. However, this type of question is allowed on cross-examination of a witness.

9. “Objection, your Honor, the question mis-states the evidence.”

A question misstates the evidence if:

It misstates or misquotes the testimony of a witness or any other evidence produced at a hearing or at a trial.

10. “Objection, your Honor, the question calls for a narrative answer.”

A question calls for a “narrative answer” if:

It invites the witness to narrate a series of occurrences, which may produce irrelevant or otherwise inadmissible testimony.

Question and Answer interrogation is the standard format. It allows opposing counsel to object to improper questions.

11. “Objection, your Honor, the question calls for speculation.” 

A question is speculative if:

It invites or causes the witness to speculate or answer on the basis of conjecture.

http://mr_sedivy.tripod.com/usgov_9.html

Now, here is my summary of Sneddon’s opening statement:

1. In the year 2000, Gavin Arvizo was a young cancer victim who was knocking on death’s door.  During his fight with cancer, Gavin and his family were introduced to comedian Jamie Masada, the owner of The Laugh Factory in Los Angeles. Masada sponsored camps each summer for underprivileged children, and grew fond of the Arvizo family due to Gavin’s sickness, and vowed to do anything he could to help. So Masada arranged for Gavin to meet Jackson via the Make A Wish foundation.

2. After several months of talking to Gavin on the phone, Jackson invited the entire family to Neverland in August 2000.  On the last night of their stay, Sneddon alleges that Jackson asked Gavin to ask his parents for permission to sleep in his bedroom, and they said yes. That night, Sneddon alleges that Jackson and Frank Cascio showed pornographic material to Gavin and Star Arvizo on a laptop computer.

3. The Arvizo’s went to Neverland a few more times in 2000, but Jackson was not there. They didn’t go to Neverland at all during 2001. In the fall of 2002, Jackson invited them back to Neverland so that he could include them in his documentary with Martin Bashir. He wanted Gavin to explain to the world how much Jackson helped him during his time of need. Gavin came to the ranch, shot that scene, and went home the next morning, and there was no additional contact between Jackson and the Arvizos until just before the documentary aired.

4. Jackson and his inner circle received an advance copy of the final transcript of the Bashir documentary and realized that it would make him look like a child abuser, so (according to Sneddon) he reached out to the Arvizos and invited them to join him in Florida so that they could schedule a press conference with the media to deny the allegations of abuse that were insinuated from the documentary. The Arvizo family flew to Miami with Chris Tucker on his chartered jet on February 5th, 2003, the day before the documentary aired in the United States.

5. According to Sneddon, Jackson had five people in his inner circle that conspired to force the Arvizos into shooting a rebuttal video to deny any abuse, and to fly them to Brazil to escape the media attention. These five people were Frank Cascio, Ronald Konitzer, Marc Schaffel, Dieter Wiesner, and Vincent Amen.

6. On February 7th, Jackson, his children and their nannies, the Arvizos, Dr. Al-Farschian, the younger brother and sister of Frank Cascio, and others flew on a chartered plane back to Neverland. According to Sneddon, the Arvizos consumed alcohol on the flight, and Jackson caressed Gavin Arvizo’s face and licked his forehead as he slept next to him. Once they landed, the family was taken straight to Neverland.

7. During this time period, with multiple news networks airing hit pieces on Jackson (which Helena discussed in this post), and trying to get him to grant them an interview, and Schaffel was trying to put together a rebuttal to Bashir’s documentary called “The Footage You Were Never Meant To See” (which can be viewed side by side with Bashir’s documentary on this website). According to Sneddon, Schaffel told Janet that “the killers” were out to get her and her family, and that they needed to cooperate with Jackson and do the rebuttal video by reading a script that they were provided.

8. On February 12th, 2003, Janet asks Jesus Salas to take her and her family from the ranch, and he takes them to the residence of Janet’s parent’s, and then to the apartment of Jay Jackson (Janet’s then fiancé.) According to Sneddon, there were over 40 phone calls made to Janet by Frank Cascio to get her to come back to Neverland, and in these calls he promises Janet that neither Dieter Weizner or Ronald Konitzer will be there. He also told her that a trip to Brazil was in the works, and Jackson would meet the family there. Janet agreed to return to Neverland on February 17th, 2003, but left by herself and was driven back home by Chris Carter when she discovered that Weizner and Konitzer were there at the ranch.

9.  The principal of the middle school that the Arvizos attended contacted the Los Angeles Department of Child and Family Services and lodged a complaint, and asked them to look into allegations that Jackson abused Gavin, and to see if Janet is an unfit mother. They contacted Janet and scheduled an interview with the family for February 20th, 2003. According to Sneddon, Frank Cascio gave Janet an ultimatum: either she agreed to film the rebuttal video, or she would not have access to her children. So Janet agreed to film it, and it was filmed and completed on February 20th, 2003.

10. According to Sneddon, the Arvizo children were all taken back to Neverland as soon as their interview with the DCFS was over (on February 20th), and Vincent Amen took Janet Arvizo to get duplicates made of the Arvizo family’s birth certificates in order to get expedited passports for their trip to Brazil.

11. On February 25th, 2003 the Arvizo family was taken from Neverland to the Calabasas Inn, and Amen and Tyson stayed with them in order to keep a watchful eye over them and make sure that they did not escape before their trip to Brazil. The family stayed there until March 2nd, 2003.

12. During that time, according to Sneddon, Amen checks out Gavin and Star Arvizo from school, and puts on the checkout form that the family is moving to Arizona. The family’s possessions are put into storage, and Amen paid two months’ rent in order to keep the family from losing their apartment.

13. According to Sneddon, the period of March 2nd to March 12th (the last day that the Arvizo family was at the ranch) is when Jackson started to abuse Gavin.

14. During this time, Jackson allegedly masturbated Gavin twice in his bedroom as Gavin laid on his bed, passed out from intoxication, and these two acts were witnessed by Star (who also allegedly witnessed numerous empty bottles of wine).  There were two other occasions when Jackson allegedly masturbated Gavin without any witnesses present. On another occasion, as the brothers were lying in Jackson’s bed watching TV, Jackson allegedly entered the room wearing no clothes, and with an erection, and asked them to take off of their clothes, but they ran downstairs. On another occasion, Jackson allegedly told Gavin that he should masturbate because if he doesn’t, he may “go crazy and go out and rape a woman”.

15. On March 9th, 2003 Gavin allegedly told Jackson that he was worried that the alcohol that Jackson plied him with would be detected during his urine test, which was scheduled to be performed by doctors on March 10th in order to see if his kidney was functioning properly. Gavin allegedly confessed to his mother Janet that Jackson plied him with alcohol, and she was so upset that she allegedly sent Davallin to get her brothers from Jackson’s room, but to no avail.

16. The next day (March 10th), according to Sneddon, Amen took Gavin and Janet to Kaiser Hospital, and on the way there Amen claims that the bottle of urine spilled open, and most of the contents were lost, but Janet didn’t believe it at all, and thought that it was an attempt to prevent the alcohol in the urine from being detected by doctors.

17. According to Sneddon, Janet became so upset that she decided to finally leave Neverland once and for all, so she had Amen drive her to a beauty parlor that was located close to where her fiancé Jay Jackson was stationed. She called him and asked him to come down and take her home, and he did. But Gavin wanted to stay at the ranch, so he was brought back.

18. On March 11th, 2003 Janet Arvizo had to go to court for a divorce hearing, and she called Frank Tyson and told him that her kids needed to be with her in court, and he promised her they would be there, but instead he shows up alone. Out of frustration, Janet promises Frank that she and the family will agree to go to Brazil, but first they must visit her sick father at his apartment. The children are told to pack their bags, and they are brought from Neverland to their grandparent’s home (ironically, they did not want to leave Neverland).

19. Janet contacted attorney Bill Dickerman to help her get her furniture from out of storage, and to get the “Living With Michael Jackson” documentary pulled from the air due to its inclusion of Gavin without her consent.  Dickerman referred the Arvizos to attorney Larry Feldman, due to his prior litigation against Jackson in 1993. Feldman referred Gavin and Star to psychologist Stan Katz, to whom they first disclosed their abuse, and Katz notified the authorities, which commenced the investigation and subsequent arrest and indictment of Jackson.

That was my summary of Sneddon’s opening statement; now here is Sneddon’s summary of the case from the PLAINTIFF’S MOTION FOR ADMISSION OF EVIDENCE OF DEFENDANT’S PRIOR SEXUAL OFFENSES, which was filed on December 10th, 2004 (pay attention to the dates that Sneddon claimed the Arvizo family left Neverland for the last time):

Statement Of The Current Case

Gavin Avizo met the defendant in 2001. He was 11 years old and was being treated for cancer. At the height of his illness he was not expected to live. Gavin and his younger brother, Star had previously attended a comedy camp at the Laugh Factory, a comedy theater in Los Angeles. The owner, Jaime Masada, introduced Gavin to a number of celebrities in an effort to boost his spirits and encourage his recovery. One of the celebrities Gavin asked to meet was Michael Jackson. Masada arranged the introduction.

Jackson called Gavin at the hospital and had a lengthy conversation with him followed by many more phone conversations. That resulted in an invitation to visit him at Neverland, Jackson’s 2800 acre ranch in Santa Ynez. The first visit was with the entire family, Gavin’s mother Janet, his father, David, his sister Davellin, and his brother Star. As early as the first visit Gavin and Star stayed in Jackson’s room in the main residence while his parents and sister stayed in the guest cottages away from the house. On that first visit Jackson gave Gavin a lap top computer. He then showed Gavin and Star how to access pornography on the Internet.

Gavin returned to Neverland many times thereafter, usually with his father, sister and brother. If Jackson was there the boys stayed with him in his room, usually in his bed. Jackson gave Gavin a sport utility vehicle. Although Gavin’s father drove it, the vehicle was a gift to Gavin. After the car broke down it was returned to Jackson. By age 12 Gavin was recovering from his cancer. These visits to Neverland began tapering off. By age 13 the boy lost contact with Jackson and had stopped visiting. Then in the spring of 2002 Gavin and Star were invited to return to Neverland by Chris Tucker, a celebrity previously introduced to the boys by Masada. Tucker took the boys back to Neverland to celebrate his son’s first year birthday.

Later in the fall of 2002 Michael Jackson called and invited the kids back. Gavin, Star and Davellin returned to Neverland for a visit. They were introduced to a man named Martin Bashir. Although the boys did not know it, Bashir was a journalist working on a documentary on Michael Jackson. Gavin had previously told Jackson he was interested in being an actor. Jackson asked Gavin to agree to be interviewed by Bashir, telling him it would be like an audition.

In February 2003 the Bashir documentary “Living with Michael Jackson” aired in England. It was highly critical of Jackson’s lifestyle and revealed his custom of sleeping with children not his own. Gavin was featured seated next to Jackson, holding his hand and leaning his head on Jackson’s shoulder. He was identified by his true first name.

Soon after “Living with Michael Jackson” aired in England, Gavin received a call from Jackson. Jackson asked that he come with him to Miami to appear in a press conference which hopefully would stem some of the negative publicity. Gavin said he would do so but only if his siblings and his mother came with him. Jackson objected to Gavin’s mother coming along, but he ultimately agreed.

Gavin, his sister, brother and mother were flown to Miami with Chris Tucker in a private jet. Gavin’s father, David, was no longer part of the picture. After years of abusing Janet, he was restrained by court order from seeing his wife or children. Jackson was well aware of the strife in the Arvizo family.

In Miami the family stayed at the Turnberry Resort hotel with many members of Jackson’s entourage. While Gavin and his family were in Miami “Living with Michael Jackson” aired in the United States. Jackson forbade any of the people with him in his suite, including the Arvizo family, to watch the program.

There was no press conference, and the Arvizo family returned to California and to Neverland Ranch two days later.

Mrs. Arvizo was informed by one of Jackson’s employees that she and her children had to move to Brazil for their own safety. From the time of their return to Neverland on February 7, 2003 to the time of their ultimate escape from the ranch on March 10th, the Arvizo children stayed exclusively at Neverland, except for a couple of days in Los Angeles and a few days in Calabasas in the company of Jackson’s employees, preparing for the Arvizos’ departure to Brazil. Jackson took them to “Toys R Us” in Santa Maria and treated them to a shopping spree. While in Calabasas they all purchased new clothes, presumably for their trip to Brazil. When Jackson was present at the ranch the boys stayed with him in his bedroom. Otherwise they stayed in the guest cottage. Davellin and her mother always stayed in one of the ranch’s guest cottages. Increasingly, Janet lost contact with her sons. She stayed in the guest cottage most of the day and had little interaction with the boys. Even Davellin started to lose contact with them. She did not go in Jackson’s bedroom and felt her connection with her brothers weakening.

The boys did not attend school, had no homework to do, and were given no responsibilities. They spent their days enjoying the many games, rides and race cars at Neverland. At night they retired to Jackson’s room. Jackson had nicknames for the boys, like ‘Rubba,” “Dodohead” or “Applehead.” When Jackson was there he drank heavily and encouraged the boys to do so as well. On one occasion he presented himself to the boys naked and assured them it was a natural thing. He asked them about masturbation and whether they did it. He simulated a sex act with a mannequin of a female child he had in his room. He told them a story of how a boy once had sex with a dog because he did not masturbate. He told them he had to do it or he would go crazy. When Gavin told him he did not do it, Jackson became offended, told him he was lying and that Gavin did not trust him. Jackson offered to teach him how to do it.

Although Gavin was drinking regularly when Jackson was there, he has a clear recollection of at least two incidents of being in Jackson’s bed and Jackson masturbating him with one hand inserted in his underwear while masturbating himself with his other hand. Gavin said there may have been other events but he was too intoxicated to be certain.

Gavin’s brother Star witnessed two separate acts of Jackson molesting Gavin, which caused Star to stop sleeping in Jackson’s bedroom. On both occasions Star came into Jackson’s bedroom late in the evening to go to sleep. Jackson’s bed was located in the upstairs portion of his bedroom suite. To get there, Star had to open the door affording access to the downstairs portion of the bedroom suite by entering the combination on the keypad for the door’s lock. Star could then walk up the stairs to the bedroom itself. As he was climbing the stairs and neared the top, Star reached the level where he could see Jackson’s bed through the railing that separated the stairwell from the bedroom area. He saw his brother Gavin and Jackson in the bed, lying side by side. On both occasions it appeared to Star that Gavin was asleep or unconscious and that Jackson was masturbating Gavin and himself.

On each occasion, Star turned before reaching the top of the stairs, left and went to the guest cottage to sleep. Star did not sleep in Jackson’s bedroom thereafter.

Janet had to use subterfuge to finally get her children away from Neveriand. She had her parents call and tell the kids they (the children’s grandparents) were ill and wanted to see them. Janet negotiated with one of Jackson’s men for a day visit by the children with their grandparents, and the kids were delivered to her parents’ home in El Monte. The children did not want to leave Neverland. Gavin, in particular, was upset at learning he would not be allowed to return.

After leaving Neverland on March 11, 2003, Janet and her parents in El Monte received numerous phone calls from Jackson’s employees encouraging Janet and the children to return to Neverland. They did not do so. Jackson’s employees had emptied her apartment and moved all of the family’s possessions into storage and refused to tell Janet where. Janet contacted a lawyer in an attempt to get her property returned. Janet also asked attorney Bill Dickerman to attempt to stop the airing of “Living with Michael Jackson,” because she had been given no prior knowledge of her son’s involvement in the production of the documentary, and because the airing of the program was exposing her children to public ridicule. She knew nothing of her child being molested at the time.

Dickerman referred them to Attorney Larry Feldman who had previously sued Michael Jackson for molesting another 13-year-old boy, Jordan Chandler, ten years earlier. Attorney Feldman immediately referred the boys to psychologist Stan Katz. It was to Dr. Katz that the boys first disclosed the sexual abuse. That commenced a lengthy and extensive investigation resulting in the indictment of Michael Jackson.

Before I continue, I want to show you an obvious discrepancy in Sneddon’s timeline, and this is the first of many that you will see throughout this trial. In Sneddon’s motion from December 2004, he stated that the date of the Arvizo’s “escape” from Neverland was March 10th, 2003, and later stated that it was March 11th, 2003! But in his opening statement, he said they left Neverland for the last time on March 12th, 2003!

24 I believe that the records from the ranch

25 logs and the testimony from individuals involved

26 here will show that from basically March the 2nd to

27 March the 5th, that the defendant and the Arvizos

28 were on the ranch together. That again, from March 115

1 9th until March 12th, when the Arvizos left for the

2 last time, that the Jackson — Michael Jackson, the

3 defendant in this case, was present.

 

I also want to point out two things that literally jumped out at me as I read Sneddon’s Opening Statement: first, he admitted that Neverland was a beautiful place that Jackson has used to bring happiness to underprivileged and sick children! So if Sneddon himself doesn’t doubt that Jackson truly cared for children, nobody else should!

1 THE COURT: Mr. Sneddon. Go ahead.

2 MR. SNEDDON: Thank you, Your Honor.

3 Ladies and gentlemen, the scene for most of

4 the events that occur in this particular case is

5 going to be the defendant’s home, Neverland Valley

6 Ranch. And I think you’ll get a very good feel for

7 the ranch through videos that are going to be shown

8 probably by both sides, as well as snippets of tape

9 and footage that is shown in the Martin Bashir

10 documentary.

11 But for just a moment, since probably most

12 or none of you have an idea of what the ranch is

13 like, I want to take you on a little visual tour of

14 what it is.

15 And I want to say, first and foremost, that

16 the ranch is something that is a beautiful thing.

17 And it’s been used for beautiful causes. For the

18 children, the underprivileged children, for the

19 children who have been suffering, who have been

20 brought there to share a day or a weekend on the

21 ranch. It’s something very good.

22 But just like so many things in life,

23 something very good can end up being, on another

24 occasion, in another setting, something very bad.

25 And several of the witnesses in this case

26 are going to tell you that some of the young

27 visitors at the ranch, that stay on and that visit

28 with Mr. Jackson, and who are there on a prolonged 45

1 basis, begin to change because of the personality of

2 the ranch.

Second, Sneddon also admitted that Martin Bashir tricked Jackson into trusting him to portray him in a positive light with that documentary. So if Sneddon himself didn’t doubt Bashir’s treachery, then nobody else should!

20 Marc Schaffel, through his contacts in the

21 media, had received an advanced copy of the

22 transcript of the Bashir documentary. And he

23 immediately contacted Ronald Konitzer. And they

24 immediately contacted Michael Jackson. And it was

25 apparent to anybody who saw it that even though the

26 video starts out in a very favorable way to the

27 defendant, that the totality of the video was

28 clearly not what the defendant anticipated, what he 71

1 expected, but it was clearly a boomerang on a

2 comeback attempt, and they saw it as a public

3 relations disaster.

4 The entire video was broadcast in England

5 for the first time on February the 3rd of 2003 to 17

6 million people in Europe on a show called “Trevor

7 McDonald.”

8 As I said, Bashir was less than

9 complimentary, and he expressed open disbelief and

10 concern about Jackson’s admissions and his behavior

11 with children, both his and others.

12 So there will be no argument about the fact

13 that somehow Bashir had tricked the defendant into

14 going into this topic or somehow misled him down a

15 path.

Now that we’ve heard Sneddon’s opening statement, I want to show you what Jackson’s confession would look like if he would have written one. This is designed to be a parody of what it would look like, but it’s based completely on the prosecution’s case! This parody appeared originally on the MJJR.net website (the author’s own commentary appears in red):

I’ve often criticized the media for lacking objectivity when dealing with the allegations against Michael Jackson. It suddenly occurred to me that I was being completely hypocritical. How unfair of me to assume that he is innocent just because the father of his first accuser admittedly plied his son with a memory altering drug and was caught on tape discussing a plan to destroy Michael Jackson. I now see the error of my ways and have decided to entertain the notion that Michael Jackson might be guilty. I’ve taken on the role of the accused and looked at this from the perspective of a guilty man. Here’s what I came up with:

Hi, I’m Michael Jackson, the most selective pedophile in the world. While most child molesters have hundreds of victims, I have a one boy every ten year average. The thing is, I’m only attracted to kids who have greedy, lawsuit-happy parents. Remember back in 1993? Let me refresh your memory.

Evan Chandler, the father of my first victim, demanded $20 million in return for his silence. I had every intention of paying him off eventually but I decided to let him turn me in first. I figured it would be fun to be publicly humiliated, strip searched, investigated by the police and all that other great stuff that comes along with being accused of sexual abuse. There was that little problem of going to jail but luckily for me, I came up with this brilliant plan to pay the boy not to testify (gee, what a concept! I wish I’d thought of this when Evan Chandler first tried to blackmail me). It seems, however, that there’s a typo in the settlement document because apparently it says that the boy and his family could have still testified against me in a criminal trial… WHOOPS!

Even though my stupid lawyers messed up my witness tampering plan, I still got off because the kid didn’t want to testify against me in the criminal trial. Neither did his parents; it seems that once they got their paycheck, the Chandlers no longer felt it was necessary to get justice for their poor molested son. Talk about good luck, huh? The first boy I decided to molest just happened to have parents who were willing to prostitute their kid. Evan even asked a judge to allow him to release an album of songs about the abuse. Cool, huh? That Evan Chandler is a great guy.

For the next ten years I went cold turkey. That all changed after a little documentary called “Living with Michael Jackson” aired. I knew the kid who was shown on the documentary for almost two years and never touched him until after I paraded him around on national television and talked about our innocent, non-sexual sleepovers. Then everybody started saying that something sexual was going on and I thought, “Hey that’s not a bad idea. But shit, he’ll probably turn me in if I molest him so lemme hire a lawyer first.” Then I called Mark Geragos and asked him to defend me in a crime that I hadn’t committed yet!

Once I had the right legal representation, everything was set. The family and I were still on friendly terms at this point but I kidnapped them all, stole their furniture and forced them to say nice things about me on camera. Why did I go to all that trouble? Well, I wanted to improve my image after the Martin Bashir documentary aired (don’t ask how the furniture fits into all of this). For some reason, however, I didn’t include the footage of the family in my rebuttal video to Bashir’s documentary… kinda defeats the purpose of my kidnapping scheme, huh? After getting their statements on tape, I then molested the boy even though the whole point of the conspiracy was to convince the world that I wasn’t a child molester. Wrap your head around that one.

Now you’re probably thinking I’m a total asshole at this point but I swear, I wasn’t that bad to the family. I bought them gifts, gave them my credit cards, allowed them to go on shopping sprees, let them visit their civil lawyers – how many other child molesting kidnappers extend such privileges to their victims? Shit, I even let the mother phone a friend and everything. From what I hear she actually told her friend – let’s call him Jamie Masada – that I was holding her against her will. Hey, don’t look at me. It’s not my fault that the idiot didn’t bother contacting the police!

Anyway, things were going according to my plan until I found out the Department of Children and Family Services and the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department were going to launch an investigation. Luckily, my entire staff knew about what was going on, accompanied the kid to his interview and intimidated him into saying nothing was wrong. For some reason, the DCFS and the SBCSD didn’t pick up on the fact that the family was being held hostage. Strange huh? Oh well, in the words of my man Tom Sneddon, “it’s LA, what do you expect?” Wait a minute… his department investigated too. Ah, whatever, either way I was cleared of any wrongdoing. Although it was a close call, I decided to molest the kid after being investigated by authorities. Makes sense, right?

My plan hit another glitch when the family escaped from Neverland. For whatever reason, they didn’t go to the police after their great escape (phew!) and I was even able to talk them into coming back. I then came up with a cunning plan to ship them off to Brazil to prevent them from speaking with authorities once I was finished molesting the boy… you know, because there is no way of contacting the Santa Barbara Police Department all the way from Brazil.

There was still the possibility, however, that the family might come across a telephone or a computer in Brazil (a bit far-fetched, I know) so I got Geragos to force the whole family into signing more documents that say I didn’t do anything wrong. So basically, my entire staff, Mark Geragos, the DCFS, the SBCSD and all of my friends and family members who visited the ranch during that time period are also to blame. This was a mass conspiracy that was designed just so I could molest this poor boy and steal his mother’s furniture.

Yep, the prosecution’s case makes perfect sense…

NOTE: While this page is supposed to be satirical, the above scenario is solely based on information that has come from the prosecution’s side. Seriously.

Here is my summary of Tom Mesereau’s Opening Statement:

1. Janet Arvizo tried to scam Jay Leno by having Gavin call him and ask for money, and Leno told police that he heard Janet in the background coaching Gavin, and felt uncomfortable and ended the call.

2. The Arvizos accused comedian George Lopez of stealing $300 dollars from them, which Lopez strongly denied, and it lead to a permanent falling out between him and the family.

3. They tried to get actress Vernee Watson (who played Will Smith’s mother on “The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air” sitcom) to let them move in with her and loan them money, but she refused.

4. Louise Palanker loaned the Arvizo family $20,000 dollars to renovate Gavin’s room to accommodate his illness and make it habitable, but they didn’t pay the builder who redid his room and instead bought expensive electronics.

5. The Arvizos tried to reach out to heavyweight boxer Mike Tyson, comedians Adam Sandler and Jim Carrey, and local Los Angeles weatherman Fritz Coleman.

6. In 1998, Janet sued JC Penney and accused their security guards of battery, false imprisonment, and infliction of emotional distress. In 1999, she amended her lawsuit to claim that she was also sexually assaulted, her nipple was squeezed 10 to 20 times, and was molested in her vaginal area. Her ex-husband David Arvizo said that Janet coached her kids into lying, and Mary Holzer, a paralegal, said that Janet told her that she had lied about the JC Penney case, but Holzer never came forward because she had been threatened by Janet.

7.  In October 2001, Janet filed for welfare despite having received a settlement of $152,000 dollars from JC Penney.

8. In November 2001, Janet told the LAPD that David Arvizo had molested their daughter Davellin 12 years earlier, and had falsely imprisoned them and made terrorist threats. During this time, she also told police that Jackson, NBA star Kobe Bryant, and weatherman Fritz Coleman would each help her sue her ex-husband. So that makes three different people who Janet accused of falsely imprisoning her (JC Penney guards, David Arvizo, and Michael Jackson. This is a symptom of paranoid schizophrenia, which Janet was diagnosed with by a psychiatrist during her JC Penney lawsuit litigation. )

9. Despite Gavin being fully insured under David Arvizo’s medical insurance plan, Janet approached the Mid Valley News newspaper and asked them to put an ad in their paper to solicit donations from readers, and had the money deposited into a bank account that was in Gavin’s name, but she was the signatory and able to withdraw money. Employees from the newspaper also went to her apartment on Thanksgiving Day and offered her a turkey, but she was upset because she wanted money instead.

10. The Arvizos first visited Neverland on August 27th, 2000. In October 2000, Janet had Gavin tell Jackson that she was without transportation, so Jackson gave them an SUV, but Janet didn’t want her name on the registration because she never disclosed it on her welfare applications and other requests for public assistance, including disability.

11. In October 2001, Janet began to receive $104 dollars per week in disability, but didn’t disclose her JC Penney settlement on her application, but a week later she bought a new car for $23,000 dollars and also applied for welfare and food stamps. And when she filed for welfare and food stamps, she did not report her disability income, either!

12. Here is a list of items that the Arvizo family bought and charged to Jackson’s credit cards during their “imprisonment” at Neverland:

A.) February 11th, 2003: Full leg wax at bare Skin Salon for $50 dollars, lip wax and bikini wax at Aromatherapy Day Spa for $140 dollars.

B.) February 21st, 2003:  Hair Products at Lisa’s Beauty for $28.91, bras and Jockey bikinis at Robinson-May for $92.24.

C.) February 25th, 2003:  clothes at Anchor Blue for $448.04, and clothes at Robinson’s-May for $115.83, and cosmetics at Lisa’s Beauty for $34.29.

D.) February 26th, 2003:  clothes at Pacific Sunware for $26.80, clothes at Jockey for $454.64, clothes at Banana Republic for $416.18, clothes at The Gap for $64.32, clothes at Levi’s Outlet Store for $436.77, clothes at Abercrombie & Fitch for $74.69, clothes at Robinson’s-May for $88.06 and $160.58, and shoes at Foot Locker for $91.44. 

E.) February 27th, 2003: daywear treatment for $129.36, cosmetic and facial soap for $30.85, slippers for $28.12, all at Robinson’s-May, feminine hygiene products and other items at Rite-Aid for $62.09, various items at Anchor Blue for $92.01, a haircut for Gavin for $20 dollars, a manicure and pedicure for Janet for $51 dollars.

F.) May 3rd, 2003:  clothing at Anchor Blue for $29.23, and cosmetics at Robinson’s-May for $71.86.

G.) March 10th, 2003: another manicure and pedicure at Lovely Nails for $115 dollars. The grand total of all of their purchases was $3,312.05.

13. After the Bashir documentary aired, Janet wanted to get distribution rights, and her then fiancé Jay Jackson wanted millions of dollars in lieu of a new house and the cost of Gavin, Star, and Davellin’s college tuitions completely paid by Jackson! Here is his exact quote: “Michael Jackson can give us a house. Michael Jackson can pay for college. Michael Jackson can pay for benefits. That’s not enough. We want big money.”

14. Bashir decided to use Jackson’s love for Princess Diana to get him to agree to do the documentary. He used Uri Gellar as an intermediary between he and Jackson, and told Gellar about he could help bring to fruition Jackson’s plans to establish an International Children’s Day, and his plans to meet the Secretary General of the UN Kofi Annan in order to help fight AIDS in Africa. When Gellar arranged a meeting between the two, Bashir showed Jackson a crumpled up letter purportedly from Princess Diana, in which she “praised” him for his 1995 interview with her. Jackson believed Bashir and agreed to do the documentary, but with some conditions: his children’s faces would not be shown on camera, he would get a chance to edit and review the documentary before it aired (which ultimately never happened), and all profits would go to charity. (Uri Gellar wanted a percentage of the net proceeds, but he worked it out with Bashir and didn’t involve Jackson.) You can read this post for more information about how Bashir tricked Jackson into doing the documentary.

15. After the documentary aired, Gavin and his family denied any wrongdoing on Jackson’s part numerous times to authorities (such as the DCFS), private investigators (such as Brad Miller, an employee of Mark Geragos), and to the world in the rebuttal tape that they shot (but was never aired). The Arvizo family never called police to complain about being forced to do the rebuttal tape, or to stay at Neverland. Janet was in contact with several police officers that she associated with from previous years, and she was also in contact with her then-fiancé Jay Jackson, and never complained about being kidnapped and held against her will.

16. In the weeks after the documentary aired, while the Arvizo kids were at Neverland, their behavior changed drastically; they were rude to employees, they memorized the codes to the Ferris Wheel and used it without permission, they threw rocks at Jackson’s animals, they broke into Jackson’s wine cellar and drunk alcohol on their own volition, and they found some of MJ’s pornographic magazines and looked through them.

17. Jackson wasn’t at or even near Neverland during most of the dates that the alleged crimes were committed. From February 20th to March 12th, 2003, Jackson was only at Neverland approximately four times.

18. Janet Arvizo was very excited about the prospect of travelling to Brazil to meet Jackson, until she realized that Jackson’s inner circle were trying to profit off of him and keep her from what she thought was her rightful percentage of the revenues of the rebuttal video. It was Marc Schaffel’s idea for the Arvizo family to go to Brazil because he travelled there, often due to his business contacts and production facilities there. He went there anyway, even after the Janet declined his invitation.

19. On February 8th, 2003, 60 Minutes journalist Ed Bradley and the President of CBS Entertainment Jack Sussman arrived at Neverland with a film crew in order to shoot an interview with Jackson about his reaction to the Bashir documentary. Mark Geragos was present at Neverland as well, because he had the full intention of participating in the planned interview with 60 Minutes. But the interview is cancelled when MJ discovers that Jordan Chandler’s declaration (AND NOT A DEPOSITION! Read this post for more details.) from 1993 has leaked unto the internet, and as a result Jackson was too devastated to go through with the interview. During his time at Neverland, Ed Bradley spoke with the Arvizo family, and they offered nothing but praise to Jackson, so it was extremely puzzling to Bradley that they would later go on to accuse Jackson. He spoke about his interactions with them in this 2004 interview with Larry King:

20. On February 13th, 2003 Frank Cascio records a phone conversation that he had with Janet Arvizo, and in that conversation she says the following: “Yeah, it’s like we’re family, you know, Frank.”, “I love you so much. You don’t know how much I love you. Your little sister and your little brother.”, and “I know we’re family, Frank. Me — you, me, my kids, are family. You, Marie Nicole, my kids, Baby Rubba, are family. Michael, Marie Nicole, you, me, are family, and my parents, that’s all I got.” She also grabbed MJ’s hand and her children’s hands, and asked them to kneel down with her and pray with “Daddy Michael”, which made Jackson incredibly nervous and upset.

21. On February 16th, 2003 Janet Arvizo was interviewed by Brad Miller, a licensed California private investigator who was employed by Mark Geragos. He hired him to investigate the background of the Arvizos because he was concerned about them possibly having a litigious history (which they did!), and possibly making false claims against MJ. He tape records his interview with her, and during this interview Janet praised Jackson for being so kind to her family during their time of need, and she described the abuse she endured at the hands of her ex-husband David for many years, among other things. She made no complaints whatsoever of being fearful for her life, or feeling trapped at Neverland and held against her will. Gavin told Miller that he and his brother slept on MJ’s bed while MJ slept on the floor, and nothing inappropriate ever happened.

22. On February 20th, 2003 the Arvizo family shot the rebuttal video willingly and happily. Included in the video were such statements as: “Daddy Michael rescued us. Took us into his fold, became the surrogate father.” & “God’s grace as God works through people, so does the devil. But God elected to work in Michael to breathe life into Gavin and to my two other children, and to me a much necessary love in a very traumatic time in our life.

23. After shooting the rebuttal video and completing her interviews with the DCFS on February 20th, 2003 Janet contacted attorney William Dickerman, who then contacted Mark Geragos in an effort to get Janet’s furniture returned to her. Janet had originally asked that her property be put in storage, that her back rent be paid, and she and her daughter Davellin complained about wanting to move into a “nicer place in the Hollywood Hills”. Jay Jackson complained that he wanted millions of dollars for the Arvizo’s cooperation in the rebuttal video, and he said that a free college education for each of the children wasn’t enough. Dickerman wrote numerous letters to Geragos, and never once mentioned any alleged abuse by Jackson. In late March 2003, Janet (while out running errands) runs into one of the DCFS social workers who interviewed her, and still didn’t complain of any alleged abuse, and on April 16th, 2003 the Santa Barbara Sheriff’s Department closes their investigation of MJ and conclude that no criminal activity has taken place.

24. After departing from Neverland for the last time, Janet told one of her associates in the LAPD that “Something big is happening, and I got a lawyer.” After the police began their investigation in June 2003, Janet told repeatedly them “I need money, I want money.” and “You know, my kids have till the age of 18 to file civil suits.” On May 15th, 2003, Larry Feldman met with the Arvizo family, and referred them to psychologist Stanley Katz, and on May 29th Gavin disclosed the alleged abuse for the first time. Katz notifies Feldman and Dickerman on June 5th, 2003, and instead of going straight to the police with their claims, they notify the DCFS on June 13th, and their investigation begins. Also, while having lunch with talk show host Larry King, attorney Larry Feldman told King that Janet Arvizo “wants money”. (Mesereau didn’t mention the date of this meeting, but I believe it was in 2004.)

25. The prosecution changed the dates of the alleged abuse in between the filing of the Initial Complaint in December 2003 and the Grand Jury Indictment in April 2004 (this was discussed above.) The prosecution originally stated that Gavin originally claimed to have first been abused by Jackson BEFORE the shooting of the rebuttal video and interview with the DCFS on February 20th, but then they stated that Gavin claimed to be abused AFTER the shooting of the rebuttal video and interview with the DCFS.

26. The sheriff’s department searched Jackson’s bedrooms for DNA evidence belonging to the Arvizo children, but none of their DNA was found. (Read this post, this post, and this post for more information on the DNA evidence that was found at Neverland.)

27. On a side note, Mesereau mentioned the fact that Jackson’s attorney David LeGrand tried to investigate certain people in Jackson’s inner circle (Schaffel, Konitzer, and Wiesner) for fraud and embezzlement, but he was terminated before the investigation was complete. Here is an excerpt from his opening statement:

13 MR. MESEREAU: He didn’t. This is what

14 Dieter and Konitzer were planning to do with regard

15 to Mr. Jackson: Now, as for his involvement,

16 referring to Michael Jackson, Michael is an

17 entertainer and not a businessman. He does not like

18 business. He does not care about any formalities,

19 proper procedures, detailed briefings, et cetera.

20 Any one of those elements kills his creative energy.

21 He wants to stay out of that. That is the reason

22 why he gave us an extensive power of attorney.

23 Do you know what a power of attorney is,

24 ladies and gentlemen. I’m sure some of you do.

25 Maybe you all do. It’s giving away to somebody an

26 ability to sign for your affairs and represent you

27 in signing things and doing things from a legal

28 point of view. It’s a very serious act when you 190

1 give someone a power of attorney. But they got one

2 out of Michael.

3 They said further, “His intention was

4 definitely not being bothered with signatures here

5 and there, every other day, and with personal

6 meetings with each and every member of the team. We

7 realized that some might feel insulted, but it’s not

8 personal. Signatures and meetings with Michael

9 will, in general, not happen. Only in very special

10 cases, exceptions will be made.”

11 We will prove to you that these so-called

12 business advisors made a concerted effort to keep

13 Michael Jackson away from a lot of what they were

14 trying to do on his behalf and to control his

15 affairs, particularly the music business.

16 On January 11th, 2003, this is what one of

17 them wrote: “Yes, I and Mr. Weizner, whom you met

18 in Las Vegas, are authorized to engage you. We

19 shall gain control of financial affairs, records,

20 documents, agreements, and also operations, anything

21 else belonging to Michael Jackson in their

22 possession or control.”

23 They identified two phases of activity they

24 were going to pursue: One, take-over. Two, cleanup

25 operation, clean up old business. And they said

26 they were going to create what they called “The

27 Michael Jackson Universe.” This was their business

28 proposal for managing and controlling all of Michael 191

1 Jackson’s business, while he spent his time creating

2 and writing and choreographing and the things he

3 loves to do.

4 We will prove to you that, unlike what you

5 were told, he didn’t know a lot of things they were

6 doing, because they intended that he not know what

7 they were doing. And they weren’t telling him a lot

8 of what was going on.

9 We will also prove to you that a lawyer

10 named David LeGrand was, at one time, retained to

11 help Mr. Jackson. David LeGrand had been a

12 securities law prosecutor. As a securities law

13 prosecutor, we will prove that he had prosecuted

14 people for financial crimes, stock fraud, not

15 following proper procedures and disclosures if

16 you’re selling stock or securities. Things of that

17 sort.

18 David LeGrand began to smell that something

19 was wrong, and he confronted Dieter and Konitzer

20 with his suspicions, even writing to them and

21 saying, “Why are you withdrawing money. Who told

22 you to do that. Who gave you permission. Where’s

23 it going. What are you doing with it.”

24 They then were able to convince Michael

25 Jackson to fire LeGrand. But before that happened,

26 David LeGrand commenced an investigation into the

27 activities of these alleged co-conspirators, Dieter,

28 Konitzer, Schaffel and others. He hired a 192

1 top-flight investigative firm in New York to check

2 out their backgrounds, to check out what they were

3 doing, to see if they were hiding things overseas,

4 to see if Mr. Jackson was being, as he said,

5 defrauded, and to see if they were engaging in acts

6 as what he described as self-dealing.

7 But they were able to get to Michael and

8 stop the investigation by getting him to fire

9 LeGrand, because they convinced him that LeGrand was

10 doing something wrong.

11 An investigative report was prepared. It

12 wasn’t completed, but it was prepared.

I will continue this series with the testimony of Martin Bashir, and then the testimony of Anne Kite, who was hired to perform public relations work for Jackson in the aftermath of the Bashir documentary, and she’ll discuss in further detail LeGrand’s investigation into Wiesner and Konitzer………………

Here is the link to the testimonies of Martin Bashir and Anne Kite: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2012/05/13/march-1st-2005-trial-analysis-martin-bashir-and-anne-kite-direct-examination/

Here is a link to another great summary of the timeline of events leading up to the trial: http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/events-prior-to-the-trial-2/ 

UPDATE May 12, 2012

I want to thank everyone who has offered their support to me as I undertake this immense task of summarizing the entire 2005 trial. I have already read the first 10 days of testimony (only 56 more to go!!), and I can’t wait to show everyone all of the lies that Jackson’s accusers hurled at him! There are so many contradictions, inconsistencies, and discrepancies that I will surely have to make several posts to summarize all of the cross-references that will be included in each day’s summary. I truly wish that I had started on this project sooner, but I was caught up with fact checking all of the other lies that I have refuted over the last few months.

The comment below by my good friend Erin Jacobs is representative of 99.999999% of the feedback that I have received. Thank you Erin!

 

100 Comments leave one →
  1. sanemjfan permalink
    June 2, 2012 9:04 pm

    I have added a compilation of the media’s coverage of MJ’s arrest; I’m sorry that I forgot to include it in the first place!

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  2. mjjyo permalink
    May 31, 2012 7:16 pm

    vindicatemj – L.O.V.E.,
    Thenk You for Your Great Work.
    And I Alreadey Feel The Beginning Of JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL.
    Yoshimi

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  3. sanemjfan permalink
    May 24, 2012 10:54 pm

    I’ve added some new info to this post: I summarized Mesereau’s Motion to Set Aside the Indictment, the examples of the most common types of objections, and Mesereau’s explanation from the Frozen in Time seminar as to why he thought the prosecution added the conspiracy charges when they indicted MJ.

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  4. Hilary permalink
    May 17, 2012 8:31 am

    @Rodrigo GET OUT! WTF! That makes Orth’s Voodoo cow thing sound believable. I’m actually laughing at this (literally), but seriously I can’t believe we live in a world where innocent people can be totally trashed like that…Michael’s voice singing “Heal the world we live in/Save it for our children” just automatically popped into my head…

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  5. Rodrigo permalink
    May 17, 2012 7:18 am

    @Hilary

    We’ve also had tales of children’s skeletons being uncovered in the Neverland grounds! It’s mentioned in that slimeball Gutierrez’s book.

    I’m surprised there hasn’t been a story that claims Michael was behind the Kennedy assassination! 😀

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  6. sanemjfan permalink
    May 17, 2012 6:57 am

    Thank you Hilary! I’ve heard about that frivolous lawsuit before, although I don’t know if it was dismissed or settled, but unfortunately MJ was a magnet for greedy people who wanted to make him a scapegoat for everything.

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  7. Hilary permalink
    May 17, 2012 6:54 am

    @lynande51 @nannoris Thanks for explaining things guys! I’m only 19 so I’m new to Michael (although I do remember watching the Bashir interview when it first came on TV) & all this legal stuff. On the post “Michael Jackson’s enemies are literally one big happy family” Star arvizo said in the e-mail that they didn’t do what they did for money, so I wanted to find a way to rebut that, which is why I wondered about the civil suit. So thanks for clearing that up! Honestly, before I looked into the Michael trial, I didn’t know jack$h*t about the law, so you’ll be happy to know that this site really is helping future generations. 🙂

    Speaking of death threats (and other crazy allegations) did you guys hear about the woman who tried to sue Michael for murdering her mother? I was surprised that wasn’t mentioned on here anywhere.
    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1497511/family-jacksons-hospital-stay-caused-death.jhtml

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  8. sanemjfan permalink
    May 17, 2012 6:54 am

    I’ve added updates to this post that include a bio of all of the attorneys, the meaning of certain legal terms, and proof of the authenticity of the transcripts that I possess.

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  9. nannorris permalink
    May 17, 2012 6:37 am

    http://www.aclu-sc.org/releases/view/100690

    I was interested in finding out what pro bono work Larry Feldman does and this award came up for helping the aclu..
    I noticed they laud the fact that he won a huge settlement for someone as one of his contributions, however I am sure he took a contingency fee for it ..

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  10. nannorris permalink
    May 17, 2012 6:10 am

    Regarding The Arvizo and a civil case ..I doubt, after what came out in the criminal case , Feldman would have bothered.
    Maybe that is why the Arvizo decided they would settle for MJ jacket and watch back..ugh.
    Feldman let Sneddon do all the bull work because he knew this family was shady,
    He let Sneddon risk his reputation on going forward with this garbage , instead of his own..
    He also doesnt strike me as a lawyer who lets someone come in for a free consult, unless I suppose because the other lawyer that referred them mentioned MJ and he smelt money again..
    I think he did the bare minimal to get it on Sneddons desk and was willing to do a little pro bono to keep Mesereau from getting into Janets mothers bank accts where she was funneling her welfare checks
    Other then that , I dont think he would bother..Time is money
    I do wonder if he went forward with the lawsuit regarding childrens services leaking the Arvizo kids name ..
    I thought that was another lawsuit he was pursing on Gavins behalf..

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  11. lynande51 permalink
    May 16, 2012 7:40 am

    Yes and they still like the attention. From what I understand the man from Ontario was making email death threats about killing Michael. He was given probation I believe and he was mentally ill if I remember right. If you Google it you will find various article about it on the internet. Here is the only one that I could find about it here in the US.

    http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,831532,00.html

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  12. Hilary permalink
    May 16, 2012 7:27 am

    I just read what Sneddon had to say. But like he said, that law is irrelevant to the Arvizo case because Gavin was more than willing to testify. These kids loved attention, after all.

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  13. Hilary permalink
    May 16, 2012 7:10 am

    @lynande51 Thanks for pointing me to that site! I never thought of using the webarchive. Unfortunately, I ended up reading the WRONG press conferences. LOL. But while I did, i found something interesting.

    I was wondering about the man from Cambridge, ON that was arrested in connection to the MJ case, according to this: http://web.archive.org/web/20041024122931/http://www.sbsheriff.org/pdf/JacksonThreat.pdf
    I live in ON, so I am honestly shocked someone up here was involved in the MJ trial. Is there a blog post about that on here? I couldn’t find one. Or do you know what that was about? He sent a death threat to the SBPD regarding MJ?

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  14. lynande51 permalink
    May 15, 2012 10:14 pm

    As for that law change how about if I just let Tom Sneddon explain that to you would that be okay?

    http://web.archive.org/web/20071114164321/www.sbsheriff.org/mj/

    If the exact press release doesn’t show up just go to DA press releases on the left and open the one for November 20th, 2003. You might as well read them all while you’re there because they are all interesting and a good read.It is particularly interesting to read what he has to say about the Martin Bashir Interview.

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  15. lynande51 permalink
    May 15, 2012 9:31 pm

    The answer as to why they didn’t pursue a civil case has many different reasons. One in a civil case if it goes to trial the verdict is not unanimous and is based on a preponderance of the evidence or in other words if the jury just thinks there is enough in his testimony to prove it. Secondly Michael could have sued them and I am sure would have sued them for slander and defamation and all he would have had to present to the civil court was his 14 not guilty verdicts as proof that they lied about him.It’s a little more complicated than that but that’s close. Michael and others could have sued her for money that she solicited/accepted from them during that time.Not just the shopping trips but in one 24 hour perior she got Vinnie to pay 2 months rent on her apartment value of $750, Hamid Moselhi gave her $2000, Brad Miller gave her a check for $3000, paid her storage and moving fees, and Ajza Pryor gave them $1000 dollars all because they felt sorry for her.She was also asking for a car from Chris Tucker and Azja Pryor in that same time frame.Chris Tucker also gave them $2000 in that same time frame and an exact money figure is not available for what she got from Jamie Masada. Jamie Masada also helped set up a meeting with her on Febraury 21st with his attorney William Dickerman who would send multiple letters of demand to Mark Geragos beginning on 3/26/03 for her belongings to be returned to her along with all video, audio, photos, letters, legal documents, passports, visas and clothing that was lost on a flight from Miami.All of those are because people felt sorry for her and her kids because according to her they were so poor. Then of course is the cost of the shopping trips, hotel stays and expenses for food,clothing and toiletries that were part of her kidnapping at the Calabasas Inn and Suites and the fees for her passports and visas to be kidnapped to Brazil for the Carnival.
    Another reason is that Janet and her family were no longer together. The boys went to live in another state and Jay Jackson was in Iraq on active duty whether or not they are still married I don’t know or care. Janet had to stay in California to face charges of fraud because of her falsifying her public assistance financial papers. It is entirely possible that with their continued connection to Ron Zonen and Louise Palanker and others from the trial that there is some kind of quid pro quo going on there. I think so just because Zonen doesn’t show pictures of himself with the family of the murdered boy from the Jesse James Hollywood case so what was so important about the Arvizo case?

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  16. Hilary permalink
    May 15, 2012 9:12 pm

    Oh I should have included this in my other comment, but I have another question: Why do you guys think, from a legal perspective, the Arvizos never filed a civil suit against Michael even after the acquittal? Mesereau said it was still possible on Larry King, and if this family was after money all along, shouldn’t they have?

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  17. Hilary permalink
    May 15, 2012 9:07 pm

    @sanemjfan Thank you! It irritates me even more now that people will still go on to say the description of the genitals matched when the fact is that the mismatch prevented Michael from being arrested!

    “Sneddon was able to meet the probable cause requirement; how? I have no idea!” That’s what confused me about the arrest/indictment in the first place. The 2003 allegations were totally bogus compared to the Chandlers’, where Michael and the kid at least slept together. Michael and the Arvizos, based on my reserach, had only met each other a handful of times before the bashir documentary.

    @lynande51 Thanks for the info! So Sneddon changed the law so that the victim could be forced to testify? But I heard that he had the law changed so that a criminal trial had to come to court before a civil suit and that the opposite was true in 1993. So exactly how many laws did he change? (I read this on the following site. Scroll down to #7: http://mjjr.net/content/mjcase/prosecution.html)

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  18. lynande51 permalink
    May 15, 2012 8:31 pm

    @ Hilary,
    What happened in 1993 was that they had an arrest warrant ready but was only to be executed in 2 certain circumstances. Because of the description that Jordan Chandler gave to ADA Lauren Weiss they were looking for corroborating evidence in the event of a match. The search was to gather the evidence. The second instance would have been if Michael refused to be photographed he would have been arrested because the Search warrant actually stated that he had no right to refuse, refusal would be seen as consciousness of guilt on his part. He was not arrested that day because his genitalia did not match the description. Following that and the settlement Jordan refused to cooperate with the investigation. He would not testify and he refused to be questioned again by police or Tom Sneddon and Sneddon was advised of this through Jordan’s attorney. That was his right under California law in 1993. He had the right to take the money and not go through a criminal trial.
    Tom Sneddon had that law changed in 1995 just because of the Michael Jackson “case” as he called it. In 2003 they could charge Michael just based on the word of Gavin Arvizo because they had their corroborating witness because Gavin was willing to testify in criminal court. In August of 2003 Sneddon met with the Arvizos and it was at that time that he informed them that they could not sue Michael without going through the criminal trial first. It is also important to know that Janet Arvizo has an AS degree in Criminal Justice.
    Knowing these circumstances how can he begin to say that they didn’t want money when he had to tell them that they couldn’t get it until after the criminal trial?
    After the search of Neverland and Michael’s arrest a couple of things were in play. Sneddon met with Mark Geragos in LA on December 14th, 2003 to discuss the case. He was informed of the exculpatory evidence that he had taken during the search on Brad Millers office. Michael was formally charged on December 18th, 2003 and arraigned on January 16th, 2004. He entered a plea of not guilty on all 9 charges. Then they set a meet and confer for the setting of the preliminary hearing. Michael had to sign a couple of documents that waived his right to a speedy trial and he submitted one for many of the early court proceedings so he would not have to attend court. At a hearing that was to schedule the beginning of the preliminary hearing Sneddon asked for a continuance for the beginning of the preliminary. It was then that he asked a judge to assemble a secret Grand Jury to seek an indictment instead of going through the preliminary hearing.
    The difference between a Grand Jury and a Preliminary is with a Grand Jury you have lay people to weigh the evidence presented by the prosecution, the defense does not present evidence at a Grand Jury and the witnesses are not cross examined. With a Preliminary hearing both sides present evidence and the Court (the judge) weighs the evidence to see if there is enough to go to trial.With a Grand Jury Indictment it must go to trial.
    Sneddon couldn’t risk the court seeing the exculpatory evidence that Michael had against the Arvizos and that is why he took it to a Grand Jury instead of a preliminary hearing. If the court had seen the evidence against them there may have never been trial. The exculpatory evidence that they had was also eliminated with the Grand Jury Indictment because that is when they dropped a couple of the molestation charges to change the timeline, and added the conspiracy charge to eliminate the exculpatory witnesses by adding them as unindicted co-conspirators. That also tied up some of the video and audio evidence that they had against the Arivzos because there were also unnamed unindicted co- conspirators in the conspiracy charge. I am currently writing a post about that and it is almost finished.

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  19. sanemjfan permalink
    May 15, 2012 12:04 pm

    @Hilary
    I’m not a lawyer, but I’ll try my best to answer your question:

    In 1993, due to the inaccurate description, Sneddon couldn’t arrest MJ on criminal charges charges because he needed an accurate description to meet the probable cause requirement. However, a person doesn’t have to be arrested to be indicted for a crime, and Sneddon and Garcetti tried to get indictments but failed.

    In 2003, somehow, someway Sneddon was able to get an arrest warrant along with Neverland search warrant, and had MJ been there he would have arrested MJ. Sneddon was able to meet the probable cause requirement; how? I have no idea!

    This website explains the difference between an indictment and an arrest. One important distinction is that an individual can be arrested and not be charged. If a police has probable cause, they can arrest you, but of course you can be freed without being charged.

    http://www.ehow.com/facts_6010959_difference-between-arrest-indictment.html

    One of our authors is a lawyer, so I can ask her and give you her answer. She can explain it much better than I can!

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  20. May 15, 2012 8:42 am

    Brilliant job researching and compiling all this information here. Thank you for all your hard work in helping to educate current and future MJ fans. Aphrodite Jones’ Conspiracy was one of the first books I read about the 2005 trial. The only thing Michael Jackson was guilty of was being innocent and naive when it came to certain people. Our legal system was able to swoop in on MJ’s home with 70 police officers, raid and then prosecute an innocent person. Anyone who takes the time to read Conspiracy or the court transcripts knows that Michael was innocent and Tom Sneddon’s vendetta began with the 1993 allegations. What happened to Michael Jackson was a travesty of justice in 1993 and again with the 2005 trial. Between Evan Chandler, Martin Bashir, Diane Dimond, Nancy Grace, Gloria Allred, Victor Gutierriez, the Me-Too Arvizos and Tom Sneddon, Michael never stood a chance of justice and even though completely innocent, the media drove the nails into his coffin.The only real predator in these cases was Tom Sneddon. Like David, I have been researching Michael Jackson for nearly three years and I am grateful to him for doing this exhaustive research. Thank you David. This is truly a labor of love.

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  21. Hilary permalink
    May 15, 2012 8:41 am

    As I’m reading all these trial analyses, I am puzzled by one thing. Sneddon was not able to charge/arrest Jackson with a crime in 1993, but he took the case before grand juries. But in 2003, he charged Michael and THEN took the case before a grand jury. Can someone explain this in layman’s terms? Sandusky was indicted and THEN arrested.

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  22. Hilary permalink
    May 15, 2012 8:25 am

    OMG I LOVE that “confession”. Some impersonator should make a Youtube video and say that with the title “Michael Jackson’s confession” just to attract haters and expose teh truth in a funny but completely factual way.

    And it put things into a perspective I didn’t really think about before. If Michael really was trying to “silence” the Chandlers, he would have paid them off BEFORE the allegations. DUH!

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  23. kaarin22 permalink
    May 15, 2012 4:13 am

    Thank you sanemjfan for the great post.I especially enjyed your poignant satire on ”
    the most selective p…”,it truely brought out the total insanity of the prosecution and you know who.And many thanks to 2 brave women,Linda and Raven for telling their story.

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  24. lynande51 permalink
    May 15, 2012 1:33 am

    Yes it is odd but following the trial according to one article that I found it was because of us Jackson fans and all of our death threats that no one knows anything about him.I have a link to the CBS show that you were talking about here

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/14/AR2005061401676.html
    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500183_162-589094.html
    .
    Then there is the time worn excuse for his loss that it was because of Michael’s celebrity. The trouble with saying that the jury was biased in favor of him because of his celebrity and blaming much of it on Janet Arvizo is that she testified in front of the Grand Jury as well and they indicted Michael on conspiracy,in spite of his celebrity. Maybe someone can explain that little contradiction for me?

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  25. aldebaran permalink
    May 14, 2012 11:00 pm

    I find it odd there is so little info out there about Sneddon. This seems strange for a man who was a prominent law breaker for 30 some years, and DA of SB for 22 years. He had 9 kids–don’t any of them give info about him? The only info is that he went to school somewhere in CA, went to Vietnam, was a boxer, went to Notre Dame, went to law school in NY (where he met his wife), and then got hired by SB. The only comment I found of interest re why he had this Captain Ahab fixation on MJ was from an SB newspaper editor, who said that Sneddon thinks in terms of black and white–good guys vs. bad guys, and he sees himself as one of the good guys. In other words he is morally rigid and has no awareness of his own deep moral failings. How come the press never started to explore Sneddon and investigate him? They never turned over this rock.

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  26. TatumMarie permalink
    May 14, 2012 6:13 pm

    Ofcourse it doesn’t exonerate Oprah either but I would give that reasoning to her before Sneddon. Like you said, he needs to be in jail.

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  27. Susanne permalink*
    May 14, 2012 11:24 am

    I like these positive replies to the Sprout article, especially the one of Aldo, it’s wonderful that he stood up vor Michael publicly in 2005. In fact, Eddie and Frank Cascio have a younger brother whose name is Aldo. So I think it’s not Eddie who wrote it, but Aldo.

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  28. aldebaran permalink
    May 14, 2012 9:00 am

    Thanks for the comments on my ‘wild thought’ about Sneddon–just thought it might have been a factor, although I agree it would not exonerate him even if he had been abused (and it does not exonerate Oprah either) but it might help to understand his motivation. I mean he had 2 grand juries and the fbi refuse to charge MJ, so why did he go so far on so little? Maybe it was just hubris. Or sheer stupidity. Or racism or jealousy or all of them.

    It was clearly prosecutorial abuse and he should be in jail and not enjoying a no doubt well paid retirement for destroying one of the greatest, innocent human beings who ever lived.

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  29. Linda permalink
    May 14, 2012 8:54 am

    @sanemjfan

    I’m anxious to get to the Arvizos, especially Janet. If it wasn’t so sad, it would be funny, but I think she is a really sick individual that was taken advantage of by Sneddon.

    I do think Sneddons angle was racist, not just because Michael was black, but because he was rich, famous AND black. That was too much for him to handle. And even if he had been molested himself, I don’t think would have pushed him to that extent.

    After I found out my daughter was molested by her father, everywhere I went and saw a father carrying his little girl or holding her hand, my first thought was is he doing that to her? It made me very insecure about men, especially when I started dating again. But I was only guarded. I didn’t distrust men in general, I was just slow to trust. I didn’t go on a vendetta to destroy all men in my path.

    If Sneddon was serious about going after real child molesters, he would have investigated Corey Feldman’s claim, but he showed no interest in that. I don’t know who his molester was, but I’m betting he wasn’t black, rich, and not as famous as Michael.

    Sneddon had tunnel vision. At that point in his life, all he saw was Michael and how to pin something on him. But to use the Arviso’s was so totally insane, and I think with his experience he had to know that.

    So, one of two things: He was either so desperate in his vendetta, he became deranged and wasn’t thinking straight, or (my opinion) he knew he didn’t have a case, but he knew with the help of the media, who loved to bash Michael every chance they got, he could destroy his image in the public eye, thus breaking him financially, emotionally and eventually physically. In that case he was actually successful.

    Luckily, Michael had, and is still getting new die hard fans that are willing to search out the truth, and are bringing out that truth to the public. Long live the King!

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  30. sanemjfan permalink
    May 14, 2012 5:39 am

    @tatum
    I never saw your comment, and I double checked and couldn’t find it. Are you sure you posted it?

    Thanks for the compliment! I’ll probably do another interview again in a few weeks when I have finished summarizing the testimonies of the Arvizos; once I finish Janet’s testimony, I’ll do the show to discuss all of their lies, and fact check them and cross-reference them to each other.

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  31. TatumMarie permalink
    May 14, 2012 4:40 am

    I really liked your interview. I wrote that in the comments section before but don’t see it.

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  32. TatumMarie permalink
    May 14, 2012 4:38 am

    @ sanemjfan
    Oh, that comment wasn’t directed toward you but aldebaran, I should’ve wrote the name above.

    @ lyn
    I agree.
    To be honest, I would give Oprah that reasoning before Sneddon because at the end of the day she has no clue about the evidence or case. Is it her fault for not doing proper research being a journalist? Yes. However, Sneddon knew the family’s history, the evidence (or lack thereof), testimony of alleged victims, the perjury, tabloid stories etc. There is no excuse for such delusion whether he was a child victim or not.

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  33. lynande51 permalink
    May 14, 2012 4:01 am

    I once entertained the same thoughts about Sneddon being from the Catholic Church. but cast them aside a long time ago and Tatum is right there is/was something far more sinister that motivated him.
    It is prejudice but it is not just a racial prejudice that colored his judgement of Michael. He went further in this case than the Duke LaCrosse prosecutor did in that one and I think Aphrodite Jones said it best when she said that ” he was the law in Santa Barbara County” or so he thought. He didn’t prosecute a police officer that came home drunk and crawled into bed with his daughters friend because according to them “it would destroy a good mans career and it was an accident”. The girl has publicly said that she wished that she had never come forward.
    I think it was somekind of prejudice that runs to everyone not just blacks but anyone he thought he was superior to. I have read some of the documents that were replys to Attorney Susan Yu and I can say without a doubt he was a sexist as well. One remark was in a document discussing how to refer to the adult magazines that were found. The defense Susan Yu suggested that they call them adult materials/magazines because the prosecution wanted so bad to use the term pornography several times over in the day. In their reply to her brief it said ” so delicately put” which is like a slap in the face with sarcasm.They did not see her on an equal level as them at all.
    Then there was Aphrodite’s recount of the night that they were having a prosecution celebration about a week before the case went to the jury. She was invited along with some other members of the press to this party and when she said to them “you guys are doing a great job” he hugged her. Tom Sneddon,I’m afraid is just one of those people refered to as “a good ol boy” and has the mentality to match.
    His arrogance didn’t have any limitations because wrongfully Sneddon assumed that everyone would be just like him in their thinking about Michael. The only thing they knew about Michael is what was told to them through people like Diane Dimond and witnesses like the Neverland Five. Did anyone know that Jordan never spoke to Sneddon. He spoke to the SBSD Detective Linden and the LA ADA Lauren Weiss and the DSCFS in LA but he never spoke to Sneddon. His message that he would not be testifying was delivered by his attorney.So hecould not even justify that he believed Jordan when he never spoke to him. He just did it because he wanted to take Michael down simple as that, because he wanted to.

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  34. sanemjfan permalink
    May 14, 2012 3:34 am

    @Tatum Marie
    I wasn’t trying to justify Sneddon’s vendetta against MJ, just explaining what motivated it, if he truly was ever a victim of child abuse. And if it is true, it wasn’t the only motivation, because there were other cases of abuse in Santa Barbara that he refused to investigate. The Veritas Project describes one of those cases. Also, he didn’t investigate Corey Feldman’s abuser, who Feldman named in his police interview in 1993.

    @aldebaran
    In retrospect, I have to take back what I said. If it was any other prosecutor, maybe we could say that perhaps he was a victim, and that’s what motivated him. But with Sneddon, he had numerous other opportunities to prosecute other alleged child predators but dragged his feet, so actually I don’t think it was anything other than blatant prejudice and hatred of MJ, and the thought of being the guy who brung him down, that inspired his vendetta.

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  35. TatumMarie permalink
    May 14, 2012 2:57 am

    I wouldn’t give Sneddon the justification despite the statistics of molestation in the church. Pedophilia is prevalent in Hollywood too and certain cases (where the person was clearly guilty) in particular were not investigated by Sneddon but instead he chose to take all his resources to investigate the weakest case ever. There is definitely something more sinister behind his desire to see Michael convicted especially when he went to the extent of planting evidence.

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  36. sanemjfan permalink
    May 14, 2012 2:51 am

    @aldebaran
    That’s the only interview of Paris that I could find where she talked about crying at the Cirque Du Soleil show. But I don’t doubt that she said it, though.

    That’s a very good analysis of why Sneddon could possibly have been so hell-bent on seeing MJ as guilty! It wouldn’t surpise me at all if he was a victim and let it cloud his judgement. There are some victims of child abuse who believe that everyone in the whole world is a child abuser, unfortunately! Due to their experiences, some victims just automatically believe any allegation of abuse. Oprah is an example of this, and the child abuse blogger that I battled with on this post is another example: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2012/04/23/its-not-up-to-michael-jacksons-fans-to-prove-that-he-was-innocent-its-up-to-michael-jacksons-haters-to-prove-that-he-was-guilty/

    Fortunately, not all victims of child abuse think that way! For example, MJ blogger Raven Woods wrote this incredibly honest and brave post called “Why I Support MJ: From A Sexual Child Abuse Survivor” on October 2010, and it was amazing for her to do so! http://old.allforloveblog.com/?p=4264

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  37. aldebaran permalink
    May 14, 2012 2:37 am

    Thanks, sanemjfan! However, she doesn’t say why she cried or link it to seeing the gates of NL–just that she almost cried. So can it be said she cried when she saw the gates?

    I have a wild thought about Sneddon. He was obviously a Roman Catholic–went to school at Notre Dame, and had (gulp) 9 children. My thought is–what if he himself had been molested somewhere along the line by a Catholic priest? Or if he had witnessed something ‘inappropriate’? That would help to explain why he was driven to see child abuse even though both Gavin and Jordan’s stories were full of holes and the evidence did not support that conclusion. Any evidence of that?

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  38. sanemjfan permalink
    May 14, 2012 2:15 am

    @aldebaran
    Here is the link to Paris talking about how she almost cried during the Cirque Du Soleil show:

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  39. aldebaran permalink
    May 13, 2012 10:27 pm

    Thanks for this, vindicatemj. Ok–besides, the Sun and the Daily Telegraph, and Jason Francia’s comment and T. Mez’s warnings–do we have any hard evidence from the SB law breaker team that they were actually planning to investigate, prosecute or charge MJ after the not-guilty verdicts. I may be wrong, as anyone can be, but my instinct is that they were solidly defeated and knew it and had basically given up going after MJ.

    Sneddon resigned in 06–so that would seem to indicate he gave up his maniacal ‘quest’ to get MJ. When you resign from a state post, you have to give substantial notice and it takes a awhile to process, so he must have given notice earlier than when he actually resigned. Just b/c the tabloids say something, doesn’t make it true, as MJ told us. They are, as you say, hit and run operations–put out the lies, collect the $, and run. It’s a kind of bank robbery tactic played on the public.

    Does anyone have the link to Paris crying when she saw the gates of NL at the cirque show? Also, does anyone know how the Bahrain sheik ‘host from hell’ came up with the $7 million figure that he sued MJ for? Thanks.

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  40. May 13, 2012 11:51 am

    “Actually I meant the millstone that would do the grinding of the detractors. That’s the one I want to be part of.”

    Lynette, absolutely. We are part of these millstones. And it is not even too daring a thing to say. The most ancient ethical system on earth – zoroastrianism – says that all of us are co-workers of God and He expects our active involvement in fighting the evil. Otherwise our life is lived in vain.

    So here we are doing just what we are expected to do.

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  41. May 13, 2012 11:27 am

    “Hi, Sanemjfan, thanks for the posts about the article by sprout (who is that?) and the comments. Interesting that Eddie Cascio commented.’
    http://www.curlio.com/new_showarticle.php?id=7794&page=last

    Hi, aldebaran, it is funny how people often confuse me with Sanemjfan, but it was me, vindicatemj who replied to you.

    I think Sprout is a blogger who wrote for the curlio.com site called “Music News For You”. He stated the case of that “drug trafficking” as it was presented by the Sun and the Daily Telegraph, only now the link to the Telegraph is not working. Now it is usual for the articles which were published with the sole purpose to hit and run – they serve a certain goal and then disappear.

    The replies to that blogger’s article are indeed interesting because they contain Eddie Cascio’s comment dating back to 2005 where he says that he knows that Michael is not a ped-le though he and his brother stayed with him since the age of 5.

    Other comments point to the obvious factor of Sneddon wanting the Michael Jackson “case” to crown his career, but instead he was found a loser TWICE because of Jackson, so he was simply obsessed with convicting Michael at least for something. And this fictional trafficking drug business was a way to compensate for his first two failed attempts against Jackson.

    Thomas Mesereau saw how far gone the case of Sneddon’s madness was and this is why he advised Michael to leave Neverland.

    It is incredible but the same was said to Michael by Jason Francia – and right in his testimony at the trial! You remember the very ending of it? He gave his last piece of advice to Michael to move away and Tom Sneddon somewhat checked him immediately after that.

    To me this is the epitome of everything that happened to Jason and Michael Jackson – Jason knows that he is lying but he agreed to go with the system represented by Sneddon, however he advises Michael to leave for a safer place if he wants to survive. Sneddon immediately checks him by telling him not to forget... his jacket. What a play of words! So much real meaning masked by some innocent phrases! No writer could make a better ending for that drama!

    6 THE COURT: All right. You may step down.

    7 JASON FRANCIA: He needs to move away.

    8 MR. SNEDDON: Don’t forget your jacket.

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  42. aldebaran permalink
    May 13, 2012 7:41 am

    Hi, Sanemjfan, thanks for the posts about the article by sprout (who is that?) and the comments. Interesting that Eddie Cascio commented. So very sad to hear that Paris cried when she saw the gates of Neverland in the cirque show (I didn’t know that). It no doubt reminded her of her life with MJ there and happiness. So sad.

    Yes, I read all the reasons why MJ should have left for Bahrain but I still think it was a terrible mistake, that the chain-rattling of the SB law breakers was only that, and that he would have been better off at NL. After the not-guilty verdicts, it was a total vindication for MJ that needed to be followed up on. But his leaving made him look like he was running away. My other question, is what was going on with the sheik who first invites him and then sues him for 7 million? He knew that MJ had gone through hell in the trial, and that he was going to Bahrain to find a refuge– he didn’t himself, as the son of the monarch of Bahrain, need the money, so why the vindictive law suit against his ‘friend’??? I do not get it–any info here? Was it just that the sheik had his pride hurt? This sheik was so cruel and nasty.

    I agree MJ could have stayed in Ireland. Once he left USA it probably was not a good idea to come back. Also, he was happy, healthy in Ireland. Of course, he had huge debts. But maybe he could have rehearsed in London for the O2? Well, he almost did make it out of USA and to London. BTW, have you read the number coincidences? MJ was 50, there were 50 concerts, he died on the 25th (half of 50) in the city of angels (LA). There’s more but I can’t recall it now.

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  43. lynande51 permalink
    May 13, 2012 2:38 am

    There is one other thing about the drug trafficking. I don’t think that he intended to call it trafficking because even if he did bring prescription medication into Bahrain it is legal as long as he has the proper container and the script for it. He was going after him or at least looking into it as far back as when the found the vial because it is in the Sheriffs report. It is a federal offense to remove the label of something like Demerol because it is a controlled substance. The only way that it can be removed per specific protocol is if a Pharmacist, an MD or an RN does it and it must be witnessed. So if they had started these procedings and a MD or RN stepped forward and said that they removed the label for wasting their case was over.

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  44. lynande51 permalink
    May 13, 2012 2:30 am

    Actually I meant the millstone that would do the grinding of the detractors.That’s the one I want to be part of.

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  45. May 13, 2012 2:03 am

    “@Helena I see myself as a part of that millstone don’t you?”

    Lynette, all of us are a part of that millstone. But I was talking about Michael’s detractors.

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  46. May 13, 2012 1:58 am

    “I do not think the Santa Barbara law breakers would have gone after him for things like tearing labels off empty prescription bottle–I mean, come on! That would have been so laughed at, and the Sun saying it makes it even less likely to happen.”

    @Aldebaran, I tried to look up some information on that Sun story and found that it was also reported by the http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au – only the link to the source naturally says that the “page is not found”. But initially it was there and this was reflected in this blog: http://www.curlio.com/new_showarticle.php?id=7794&page=last

    I find their discussion interesting and will post both the text and some replies to the author:

    Michael Jackson Framed In A Drug Scandal
    by Sprout
    2005-11-30 17:19:04
    Legal Stuff Santa Barbara’s district attorney Tom Sneddon is heck bent on bringing Michael Jackson down on any cost. I did not think it was possible for any individual to be in news so often and for all the wrong reasons, but then Michael Jackson is not just any individual.

    Earlier Michael Jackson’s ex-wife Debbie Rowe startled the world by stating that he was not the biological father of their two children, soon after The New York Daily News reported that Jackson had been limiting Rowe’s access to their children. Now Michael Jackson is caught up in a drug scandal.

    Tom Sneddon failed to convict Michael Jackson on child molestation charges in the June and perhaps that has irked him and incited him further to make sure that Jackson is behind the bars.

    Now Sneddon is probing a case that might land Jackson behind the bars for 20 years. The new allegation is drug trafficking. Jackson, it seems has a 40 pills-a-day habit and he is now being accused of illegally importing anti-depressants and painkillers from the US to his hideaway in Bahrain.

    The entertainer after clearing the sex abuse charges in June fled the US. But Santa Barbara’s dogged district attorney is now checking claims Jackson obtains medications using fake prescriptions. He is also checking whether Jackson has been taking US drugs to his new home in Bahrain.

    US police are investigating claims by former aides of the star who say the 47-year-old is hooked on pills. Former Neverland security guard, Chris Carter claims that he collected prescriptions at pharmacies for Jackson under different fictitious names, including his own.

    Jackson aides also claim that Jackson took around 40 tablets a day and was apparently seen falling flat on his face after injecting himself with a mystery substance.

    The new investigation led by Tom Sneddon centres around a huge stash of drugs found at Jackson’s Neverland ranch, when the police were probing the child molestation claims made against Jackson in 2003.

    British newspaper The Sun also reported that traces of cocaine were found on the eccentric star’s underwear during a police raid in 2003, along with residue of a painkiller and a sedative.

    Sneddon declined to comment on the reports last night, but Jackson’s supporters accused him of conducting a witch-hunt against the singer.

    A source close to the Jackson family revealed to Britain’s The Sun newspaper that Jackson would fight this allegation in the court. And added that none of them (Jackson’s family and well-wishers) were aware how Jackson can cope with another investigation.

    The source also remarked that Sneddon was obsessed with bringing Jackson down. And stated that this was not justice, this was a witch hunt.

    This is now absolutely pathetic and in my opinion Sneddon should get on with his own life and get off his Michael Jackson addiction.

    Click here to read the source article. [the source directs to the page saying “not found” of the Daily Telegraph, Australia]

    Some replies:
    2005-11-30 23:37:34
    You’d think that Sneddon would be tired of getting his *kicked in court. I mean just look at the guy. It’s obvious that this is a guy that took a lot of crap in High School. Now he’s consistantly getting whipped by Michael Jackson. His problem is simple, he doesn’t want to go down in history as a two time loser. So in a misguided quest to prevent this, he’ll be known as a three time loser and a lousy Prosecuting Attorney. The stupid SOB needs to retire to southern FL. and leave the Criminal Court System to real Prosecuting Attorneys who are interested in nailing real criminals, not serving personal agendas. Hey Sneddon, take a couple of Geritols, a nice laxitive, a glass of prune juice and a nap. NOBODY cares what you have to say anymore ! Your boring and it’s old news so get over yourself. You lost. Move on.

    2005-11-30 19:29:02
    It is totally obvious that MJ has no control over his life and that he lives for his abusive behaviors and his lavish lifestyle. Just be real….we all know that MJ is a ped-le and should not be around children for him to further victimize. And it’s totally obvious that those are not his children because they have no negro features. People tend to forget that MJ is a black man and had very definate black features that would be genetically passed to his children. Those kids are white and have strictly white predominate features. MJ needs to grow up and take his Fairy-Ass out of Neverland

    Aldo 2005-12-01 05:58:05 [This must be Eddie Cascio, Frank Cascio’s younger brother]
    Sprout.. Debbie rowe never spoke to an ireland paper.. she said her self she could get millions for an interview why would she give a free interview to some small paper? Debbie hasnt betrayed Michael. Get ya facts straight.. don’t copy other articles.

    “It is totally obvious that MJ has no control over his life and that he lives for his abusive behaviors and his lavish lifestyle. Just be real….we all know that MJ is a ped-le and should not be around children for him to further victimize…. MJ needs to grow up and take his Fairy-Ass out of Neverland”

    Mr. Guest have you ever met Michael? If not shut the * up. Cos obviously you don’t know him. My family has know him and worked for him before i was born. Michael does have control of his life. Sure he takes SOME pain killers but he has a bad back. he * it up in 1997. Who is we? I know michael isnt a pedophile. I’m 16 years old. ive know and have had sleepovers with michael since i was 5 ish. He has never once hit on me, touched me in any sexual manner. nor has he done any of my brothers. My older brother works for him still.
    Have you seen his kids without the veils?
    Here ill help you..
    His oldest son: http://img209.imageshack….mg209/2798/dsc0019gk.jpg
    His Daughter: http://img209.imageshack….img209/626/dsc0046bu.jpg
    I don’t have his youngest picture.

    Now look his daughter.. has discoloration. a sign of vitiligo which the same diease michael has. it is past in genes.
    Now his son, looks alot like his dad when he was young minus the skin color and the nose side. He looks alot like his father. I’m sorry but they are his children.

    BTW michael isnt 100%. His grandfather is black/native/white. His grandfather also has blue eyes. Now debbie she is white/jewish (yah.. mike is real anti-semitic.. his kids are half jewish)

    Take his fairy *out of neverland? He hasnt been to Neverland in months. Altho some family members are staying there currently. Mr./Ms. Guest, get to know a person if you can before you judge them. Mr. Sneddon is just diggin a hole for himself. Everyone knows hes a fony.. if you don’t then i’m sorry you don’t see the truth.

    -Angel

    2005-12-01 06:29:59

    Angel, since you know them personally I sincerely think they should sue the newspaper! I have carefully worded the article about Debbie Rowe and I know you have read it as I have seen your post, and if you might have read other articles on the same matter, you might notice that I have kept room for the news report to be a disgusting fabrication, because I knew for a fact that this might be a likely possibility.

    I think one should read Eyong Martin’s post, I think he has more or less nailed it! And as far as copying things go, unfortunately I don’t know MJ or Ms Rowe or for that matter Ms Bain, so I have to rely on what the majority reports state before I re-word it after reaching some conclusion.

    I obviously cannot create a story on my own accord, can I? And I have to report what is in the news, no matter how misleading the story might be!
    Thanks for clarifying! But seriously, if I were Ms Rowe, I would sue!

    2005-12-01 07:32:33

    Jackson slams ‘illegal drugs’ report Thursday December 1, 07:30 AM By WENN

    Troubled superstar Michael Jackson has slammed a newspaper report claiming he has been obtaining prescription drugs illegally.

    The Sun newspaper also reported yesterday traces of cocaine were found on Jackson’s underwear during a police raid and his former aides allege the Thriller singer is taking up to 40 pills a day.

    The Sun alleged Santa Barbara District Attorney Tom Sneddon – one of the prosecutors in Jackson’s child molestation trial earlier this year – is investigating
    allegations Jackson is transporting anti-depressants and painkillers from the US to his new home in Bahrain.

    The publication quoted court papers of a police transcript with former Neverland security guard Chris Carter, who alleged he would pick up prescriptions for Jackson under various fictitious names.

    In response to the claims, Jackson’s lawyer Brent Ayscough says, “Mr Jackson uses an amount of prescription drugs, but does not take anything illegal or obtain anything in an illegal manner.”

    2005-12-01 07:59:30
    Whether you feel the crime is not worth pursuing, it is still a crime. Drug Trafficking is a serious offense. I know you have an obvious bias toward Michael, but you have to understand that crime is still crime. Rich people aren’t above the law unless they’re paid up with the right people.

    That said, it’s like the whole Al Capone thing. They just want to nail him on anything they can get him for. It doesn’t matter what. They just want to fry him. It’s a waste of legal resources. This sneddon guy’s time could be better spent going after rapists and killers.

    As far as extradition goes, it will never happen. As you said, it’s a lengthly proceeding. Not worth the time or resources. If a warrant is ever put out for Michael’s arrest, they will snatch him when/if he comes back to the US. That is how they handle most people who bail on a warrant.

    2005-12-01 11:35:06

    Do you know who Chris Carter is? Wonder why the reports are leaving out this major fact about this “upstanding model citizen:”
    March 23, 2005 — One of the prosecution’s most important witnesses in Michael Jackson’s child molestation trial has been jailed in Las Vegas on charges of burglary, robbery and first-degree kidnapping, all with a deadly weapon, ABC News has learned.
    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA…r/story?id=607996&page=1

    He never testified at the MJ trial, btw. He was going to plead the 5th. If Sneddon is still persecuting based on this “star” witness, that is sad since Carter is currently in jail.

    MJ Trial Trivia: Did you know that the same psychologist- Stan Katz- that reported the so called abuse by the cancer kid, was also a key psychologist that helped to prosecute the Mc Martin case (tragedy) a few years back?

    For those who don’t know, the McMartin case was probably the biggest false child molestation case in California’s history. A lot of people were falsely accused. It turned out that the prosecutors were forcing the children to lie. The prosecutors are still in office, btw.

    He was also the psychologist for the Chandler kid.

    *****
    “They came with their guns drawn, because we had armed security,” Amelia told Daphne. Patterson even witnessed first-hand the authorities’ search of Michael’s bedroom.

    “There was this safe that no one could open. They had a locksmith come — all these different people trying to open up this safe. It took them the whole day to try to get it open,” she revealed. “But the funny thing about it, was when they get it open, the only thing they found was the directions on how to open up the safe.”*

    Anthony 2005-12-03 14:14:26

    It is no coincidence that in the same 2-week period, Michael Jackson has been called an anti-Semite (and a anti-Italian), not the biological father of his children and a drug trafficker. If you want to find out what’s really going on, you just have to look at who is currently fighting MJ for a large sum of money in court: former advisor Dieter Wiesner.

    I find it hard to believe that there is any other possible happenstance that all these allegation have arrived so closely together.

    http://www.curlio.com/new_showarticle.php?id=7794&page=last

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  47. juney07 permalink
    May 13, 2012 1:56 am

    OMG re Bonnie C, how funny! She’s called the prez a traitor, says 911 was caused by the CIA, says Bill Bray was planted with Michael by the Illuminati, alluded that Michael is alive, on and on. Her agenda is not about Michael Jackson, just uses his name to draw a crowd. David, your time on this blog is too valuable to waste it on her ramblings.

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  48. lynande51 permalink
    May 13, 2012 1:11 am

    Lynette, “The mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small”.
    Sneddon, Dimond, Orth, the Arvizos and the like should live long enough to be able to see themselves ground into dust. And if the Estate is successful in fully restoring Michael’s fortune and makes it thrive this will be one of the worst punishments to these people.

    @Helena
    I see myself as a part of that millstone don’t you?

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  49. shellywebstere permalink
    May 13, 2012 1:07 am

    Taaj Malik is paid by the Estate. It’s the best joke of the year. I hope Ivy from MJJC read that tweet. lol

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  50. May 13, 2012 12:56 am

    “people seem to forget that when Sneddon forced Michael out of Neverland it was his kids home too. I wonder what karma is going to say about that? Still I doubt very much that someone like Star and Gavin Arvizo have any concerns that way but I bet it chaps their hineys to know that these kids got the financial benefit from their fathers love because that was all they ever cared about.”

    Lynette, “The mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small”. Sneddon, Dimond, Orth, the Arvizos and the like should live long enough to be able to see themselves ground into dust. And if the Estate is successful in fully restoring Michael’s fortune and makes it thrive this will be one of the worst punishments to these people.

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  51. lynande51 permalink
    May 13, 2012 12:43 am

    @ David
    Someone should enlighten Bonnie to the fact that saying that it is a Sony conspiracy against Michael is like saying Michael was conspiring against himself since the whole thing is half and half. The problem Michael had with Sony was over in January of 2003 when Motola was fired. Since then they shared a good sound working relationship.
    As for getting a paycheck where is mine? Helena would earn the most naturally but mine might cover some unexpected expenses and give me more time off work to work on this. Can we expect that paycheck anytime soon? Helena I think we could put it to good use in our kitty to pay David for some of the videos and testimony that he paid for. Then if there is some left over could we use it to purchase a couple of documents that I’m interested in buying from the LA Superior Court from the MJ vs DD and VG case and a couple of others.I want Sneddon’s helpful ( to Diane Dimond) declaration bad! LOL
    As for our summaries of facts in the case and saying that Tom Mesereau already did that it isn’t completely true because blanket statements like ” that case was just so crazy” and “he was found not guilty” don’t seem to be working out in the real world. How does someone like Bonnie answer specific questions about the two cases if she has no information past what was written in Aphrodite Jones book? Aphrodite gave us an insiders look at what happened in the media but it did not show definitively what was wrong with the testimony that exonerated Michael with the jury. We have to show people what happened to him for them to know what happened to him because the media sure isn’t going to.

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  52. lynande51 permalink
    May 13, 2012 12:37 am

    @ nan
    Yes people seem to forget that when Sneddon forced Michael out of Neverland it was his kids home too. I wonder what karma is going to say about that? Even if they don’t pay in this world they will pay in the hereafter won’t they. As a matter of fact the only way to ensure that it doesn’t happen in the hereafter is to atone for it it now.
    Still I doubt very much that someone like Star and Gavin Arvizo have any concerns that way but I bet it chaps their hineys to know that these kids got the financial benefit from their fathers love because that was all they ever cared about.

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  53. sanemjfan permalink
    May 13, 2012 12:28 am

    I’ve added an update to this post to show you examples of both the love and so-called “criticism” that I have received for wanting to do this series. Is anyone really surprised that Bonnie Cox, the knower of all things MJ, would oppose me writing this series?

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  54. nannorris permalink
    May 12, 2012 10:44 pm

    As much as I am not crazy about MJ going to Bahrain, I dont really think he could have stayed at Neverland either..
    I totally think Sneddon Zonen and Auchincloss were insane enough to try and bring charges of something/anything again..
    The fact that they showed up with yet another search warrant to rouse MJ from bed for a plans of the house that they probably could have got from the planning board or registry of deeds was either a show of power or maybe they thought they would catch him in some compromised state..
    Either way , these people were sick enough to go back again, and the media obviously didnt speak up at the last infringement of his civil rights , so I think they would have felt brazen enough to do that..
    They never seem to have an issue with harassing him ,,Bullies are like that..
    If some kid wandered onto the ranch by accident or perhaps even purposely, who knows what he might be accused of..
    They wanted people at Neverland to act as informants for them..
    Why wouldnt they do it again .
    Plus the opportunity for workers to make a fast buck with a tabloid story or extort him for yet another made up thing …
    There was just too much opportunity for him to be exploited again..
    It is to his credit and shows his innocence that he chose to continue to live there after the witch hunt of 93.
    I can see Sneddon making a big deal out of a label torn off a demoral bottle, especially after all they went through to get him in the ridiculous trial..
    This time I think he saw the writing on the wall..
    BTW I was happy to read roger friedman article regarding John Travolta recent situation and have him mention the MJ 2005 trial as being completely fabricated ..and yet it ruined MJ life..
    It is nice to see someone take a stand on that crap and not hem and haw about maybe he did , maybe he didnt..
    He didnt ..It was OBVIOUS he was getting set up , and I hope Sneddon and Zonen in particular came across that article..

    Maybe MJ might have been better off staying in Ireland..The people there loved him and from what I have read , he was happy there ..
    Breaks my heart when I see his home movies and he talks about Neverland., or the footage of Paris crying during the circ show when they show the gates of Neverland…

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  55. May 12, 2012 10:11 pm

    “Any man or woman who has seen a circumcised penis and an uncircumcised one can tell the difference immediately. If she looks of course.”

    Kaarin, this phrase of yours “if she looks of course” made me once again think that there might be another aspect to the whole circumcision/non-circumcision matter. I hope you and others guess at the implications of my rather exotic version.

    Jordan could not know what Michael’s state was because he never saw MJ’s “manhood”, but if there was a woman involved and she provided some description which Jordan used, it could explain the confidence with which he was talking about MJ’s “circumcision”. From the reports of that period it looks like he volunteered that information himself or at least sounded very confident of what he was saying.

    So the question is – who could have told him about “circumcision”? If it was a woman it was quite possible for her to make a mistake – exactly in the case if “she didn’t look”. Women don’t feel the difference between circumcised and non-circumcised men unless they look. So if she wasn’t looking she might have easily taken erection for circumcision. And her crucial mistake could have been the reason for Jordan and her falling away from each other later.

    The above is a mere speculation of course, but such a hypothesis does have the right to exist too, doesn’t it?

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  56. lynande51 permalink
    May 12, 2012 9:56 pm

    Yes circumcision should be a choice that is not mandated by a social norm due to a “puritanical dictate” that if it were removed the male would masturbate less.That has no basis in fact by the way as men notoriously under report their masturbation activity.
    As Helena stated in her aricle I believe it was reported by two doctors back in the 1800’s that if the foreskin were removed it would lead to less masturbation which they unscientifically determined would cause such things as hairy palms and blindness (no I’m not kidding). That is why it became more commonplace. During the second World War it was preformed on those going into active duty for many of the same reasons that it was dictated by Moses during the crossing of the desert. My father was one such man that had to endure an adult circumcision by the Army and my two older brothers as well because of their tours in Viet Nam.
    I became an opponent to it in Nursing school after witnessing a circumcision on an infant boy. I will not get into it but it is not pleasant and could be seen as a barbaric unnecessary surgery.The reports in support of it don’t always report the number of botched circs that have to be repaired by a cosmetic surgeon either. There are many more than people know.
    So now people can see that it has a function, is not just one layer of skin as said either but is part of the male penis with a purpose.
    Once someone sees what it really is how can they say with a straight face that Jordan Chandlers description was a match? There is no point in saying at this point in time that no one knows for sure that Jordan described MJ as circumcised because the very reason that Sneddon said they asked for a description of his erect penis is because he thought erroneously that it was the same as being circumcised. Now everyone can see that it is not. As for the spot whatever color you want to say it was it would have moved also so that whole declaration of Sneddon’s was just an attempt to introduce the photos as evidence to humiliate Michael once again.
    In the end it turned out that it was him that had to endure the humiliation which is why he refuses to talk about it and when Zonen does he does so with such obvious acrimony.Every word they speak and every action they have taken since 2005 shows that they were far more personally invested than a prosecution ever should have been. The whole thing was just to humiliate Michael, they knew it was a lie in the beginning and they actually went a step farther and aided the Arvizo’s in their false allegations. That is a crime just look it up.

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  57. May 12, 2012 9:31 pm

    Okay, Lynette has talked me into this. Here is an educational animation showing how the foreskin moves during erection. It may not be appropriate for viewing by youngsters – so please refrain. On the other hand there is nothing sexual about it and it may even be a good manual for those parents who think they should circumcise their sons. In my country no one does that and men die absolutely not due to the consequences of non-circumcision but mostly due to drinking too much. In Israel they did (and do) circumcise boys and it is one of the main laws of Moses – but when this rule was formed thousands years ago they were walking in the desert! For forty years! In a hot climate with no water!

    Whatever Moses said, if Jordan Chandler had ever seen this scene during alleged “masturbation” of MJ he would never have made the mistake he made. But he did make it and said that Michael was circumcised.

    Technically speaking after such a statement we can close his case and say good-bye to him and to his allegations.

    Here is the video:

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  58. May 12, 2012 9:14 pm

    “Helena I think you should make the information about the way that foreskin is attached and the movement of it during masturbation in bold in your article about the photos that might help. I offered a link to that one medical site about circumcision but it would not open for you so you couldn’t use it for a visual because you couldnt see it. Do you want me to provide that site to you privately to see if you can open it now?”

    Lynette, I am not sure I really want to see it, but if you think it is okay you can provide the link in your comment for those interested to have a look. My post http://wp.me/pIuKO-bC has an animation of this process which comes from a medical site.

    I am posting the animation here once again to show that the foreskin moves whether there is or isn’t an erection. In the erected state the foreskin moves even better, and if – if – Jordan had ever seen it while he was allegedly masturbating MJ, it would never have gone unnoticed by him. It is simply impossible! The only thing Jordan’s words show is that he had a talent to make up scripts and fictional stories!

    How the Foreskin Works
    This shows a man’s foreskin being retracted passively, as for cleaning. The action in erection and intercourse is similar (without the wrinkling).

    http://www.circumstitions.com/Works.html

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  59. aldebaran permalink
    May 12, 2012 10:28 am

    Here Ed Bradley talks about Neverland in the Larry King interview–this is not included in the youtube clip above. The whole transcript of the interview is available in the link below.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0402/04/lkl.01.html (ed bradley on Larry King re MJ)

    KING: What’s your read on Michael Jackson?

    BRADLEY: Michael lives in a world, I think his main residence is aptly named Neverland. It’s a fantasy world. I mean, I’m sitting outside waiting for this interview that never happened. I hear this noise and I look over my left shoulder and it’s an elephant and a trainer walking the elephant. I’m looking out at the lake in front of me and there’s a geyser at the other end of the lake and swans, you know, gliding across the landing.

    I look over here there’s a little waterfall and I see statues of pink flamingos and then I see the flamingos move, they’re real. And then I hear a half hour later to my right and I look over my shoulder, here comes another trainer with a camel.

    All the time there’s a train going around and there’s a train station that’s as big as your house. And it’s all lit up with lights. And on other parts of the property, there’s other animals. There is a ferris wheels, merry-go-rounds, and then there are all of these Disney-type programs being played on outdoor speakers.

    It’s — he lives in a world that is still a child’s world. He never had a childhood. The one thing that struck me that he said was that when I was a kid and I would pass a playground and see kids out there playing, I had to go into the studio. From the time he was 7, 8 years old, he’s been the breadwinner for his family. So he now has re-created this world of fantasy where he can be a child.

    Well, that’s not a real world. It’s not a real world, but it’s his world.

    KING: Sad or what?

    BRADLEY: I think it’s sad because it’s not real. And I think, in some ways, Michael is out of touch with reality, and I don’t think he has people around him who can say, Michael, can’t do this. Michael, you can’t do that. Michael, you can’t say this. You know, I think he has been so big for so long that he can do whatever he wants to do.

    BRADLEY: I came away not convinced that he is a pedophile. I think that that’s something that only a jury can decide. They have to look at the evidence, and I haven’t seen all the evidence. But I came away not convinced that he is a pedophile, but convinced that he doesn’t make sound decisions. That having already been accused in 1992, got to be extra careful about what it is that you do and not allow yourself to be put in a position where you could be accused again.

    Note: lots of people say this–why didn’t he protect himself. So I guess having Frank Cascio in the room with him didn’t help–maybe because it wasn’t made crystal clear til after MJ died. In the Bradley interview with MJ, Geragos says there was always ‘a third party adult’ present when MJ was alone with a child–but no one paid enough attention to that, including Bradley.

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  60. aldebaran permalink
    May 12, 2012 10:15 am

    Hi, sanemjfan–yes, I have read Defending a King and also your review. I was disappointed in the lack of accurate source documentation in that book, as opposed, for example, to Joe Vogel’s thorough documentation, especially since the book is 500 pages long and has no notes, although it does have a bibliography. I agree with what you wrote about it in your review. It does have good points, of course, but a major problem is the lack of accurate documentation as well as relying on unreliable sources, of which there are unfortunately so many in MJ’s whole artistic and personal life.

    Thanks for posting the direct quotes from Moriarty’s book re Mesereau urging MJ to leave Neverland. Interesting that Mez says (according to Moriarty) MJ was reluctant to leave since NL ‘meant so much to him,’ even though in the Ed Bradley interview MJ firmly says NL is no longer a home and he will only visit there and not live there again. So I am guessing, if Mez reporting is accurate, that MJ had not let go of NL after the trial after all.

    I stick to my view that it was a mistake for him to leave NL. Personally, and this is a guess of course, I do not think the Santa Barbara law breakers would have gone after him for things like tearing labels off empty prescription bottle–I mean, come on! That would have been so laughed at, and the Sun saying it makes it even less likely to happen. Also how could children being accidentally injured be criminal? I am sure MJ had insurance and the kid would be taken care of, and maybe MJ would have suspended those large visits by kids anyway. Just my 2 cents but, much as I admire Mez, I think MJ should have recouped at NL and not gone to Bahrain–for one thing he ended up getting sued by his ‘host’ for 7 million dollars, which he did not have. He was also under a court order not to commit to any other contracts after the sheik filed charges in the UK. I do not think that Bahrain was his cup of tea at all–just a high rise, desert monstrosity (IMO).

    A note to Truth Prevail–you missed my point. Of course it is ‘possible’ to write songs to someone else’s lyrics but I cannot imagine MJ doing that, esp. I cannot imagine that the kind of lyrics this son of the monarch of Bahrain would come up with would be in any remote way close to lyrics MJ would write. MJ was a major artist and the sheik was not. I think MJ was trying to be polite to his host by agreeing to that and then just realized it was hopeless. Also Grace has said they had to stay in the palace and never had their own house. It didn’t work on so many levels. I think in the end MJ just ran away, left, and the hosts didn’t even realize he was leaving for good until he was long gone. It was in fact a total disaster. I do not think it helped him rest at all–it just made the financial, emotional and legal situation worse. He should have stayed in NL.

    Re the circumcision issue and the photos of MJ’s private parts–I think the Estate should demand that the photos be destroyed. They were an outrageous violation of MJ’s civil rights in the first place and they have no right to exist. What is the point of ‘preserving’ this travesty?Also, both my brothers were not circumcised so I know very well what an uncircumcised penis looks like and I agree there is no mistaking the difference. Maybe if the photos are destroyed the focus on that will die down–seems the existence of the photos will encourage speculation and maybe someone will even release them one day and that would be just horrible. I feel sure that MJ would want them destroyed.

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  61. sanemjfan permalink
    May 12, 2012 7:52 am

    I did another episode of Blog Talk Radio with Catherine Gross earlier today. The scheduled guest had to cancel at the last minute, so I filled in for her and talked about this new post on the opening statements.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/a-place-in-your-heart/2012/05/11/speaking-michaelistically-promoting-the-message-of-the-man

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  62. TatumMarie permalink
    May 12, 2012 4:34 am

    They probably only heard it from the media, that’s why.

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  63. May 12, 2012 2:32 am

    “Whenever you hear law enforcement people talk about it , they say they HEARD it matched , someone said it matched”

    Yes, all of them only heard about the match. I’ve written about it so many times in the comments that it finally needs to be turned into a post. I’ll try to to make it – it was actually started and then dropped due to more urgent matters.

    “How blatantly unfair to censor the comments from the article. I’m afraid it is going to be an uphill battle for a long time to come.”

    Oh yes, it is going to be a long battle and we should steel ourselves for it. It is time to give up all illusion and look at Michael’s haters with our eyes wide open. These are part of the establishment, most of the media and a very specific criminal strata in the society – a worldwide ped-lia lobby. They are no longer hiding their intentions as they do outrageous things and do them openly – delete positive comments about MJ, impersonate others, write provocative things as Michael’s advocates, go on saturating the media space with ridiculous stories about MJ (Thorson, Fiddes), edit the same space to erase important evidence which is indispensable for learning the truth, etc. And they get more cunning with each new day as they see that we are being serious.

    I can speak on this subject for long, but please excuse me – it is too late here. Hope to be back.

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  64. lynande51 permalink
    May 11, 2012 8:03 pm

    @kaarin
    The site that I was talking about is actually the site of medical professionals that are opponents of some of the unneccesary circumcision of male infants in the US. It is true that there is no medical basis for it and yet it started to become “the norm” here shortly after the Second World War. If anyone had ever seen one of these performed on an newborn infant male they might think more carefully about the practice.It is to educate parents and help them make an informed decision about circumcising their sons.

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  65. May 11, 2012 7:36 pm

    Any man or woman who has seen a circumcised penis and an uncircumcised one can tell the difference immediately. If she looks of course. Now it is more difficult to express in words and I think Helena’s post with drawings should suffice. I have lost my whole medical library to tragic events, (no need to go into that here), but an anatomy book would have both pictures and good descriptions.

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  66. lynande51 permalink
    May 11, 2012 6:36 pm

    Actually I think Michael’s death surprised them and they were caught off guard in their remarks about those photos being a match. Then of course is the fact that for the fans the true autopsy report was made public. That must have been a blow to the powers that be, they certainly weren’t expecting to have to defend their lies and be exposed before they had a chance to do more damage with them.
    Sneddon knew all along that they were not a match. That is why he tries to cover up the lie in his declaration to the court that they asked for a description of Michael’s erect penis. That is how you know that Jordan said MJ was circumcised. He was stupid enough to believe and/or did not want to find out that foreskin does something entirely different whether or not the penis is erect. Why doesn’t anyone realize that. Even in that declaration of his he tries to cover up his lie with another lie. Helena I think you should make the information about the way that foreskin is attached and the movement of it during masturbation in bold in your article about the photos that might help. I offered a link to that one medical site about circumcision but it would not open for you so you couldn’t use it for a visual because you couldnt see it. Do you want me to provide that site to you privately to see if you can open it now? Let me just say that once you see the video on that site it will wipe away any doubt or ammunition that the haters try to use in one swoop because when you watch that you know without a doubt that Jordan could not have gotten it wrong if he had seen it.

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  67. nannorris permalink
    May 11, 2012 5:55 pm

    Vindicatemj
    That is a good point ..

    I know they have been trying to rewrite history , not just the “haters ” but the police as well.
    The fact remains that when Tom Sneddon was at MJ house when the pictures were being taken, he wasnt waiting for an autograph, he was waiting to arrest him on the spot.
    The kid had made the allegations and if it matched they would have taken him away.
    They cant rewrite that piece of history…
    They didnt take him in becasue it didnt match.. ..Then if I am not mistaken the allegations changed after that also. ..

    Whenever you hear law enforcement people talk about it , they say they HEARD it matched , someone said it matched ..
    If it was true , instead of the police spinning it , he would have been busted.
    Instead Diane Dimond and the police started a whisper campaign.

    When you look at these overzealous tactics used by the police . the interrogations of children MJ knew , saying they had nude photos and all the rest ..If they could have possibly matched , he would have been arrested and those photos would have leaked, ..
    Instead they cherry pick what to leak , only the salacious stuff,, not the rebuttal from MJ side…
    off topic but….
    When I was looking at the link about the press conference Sneddon had , I clicked on an old campaign they had about an editorial Maureen Orth had written and inserted mj name in , in a, bizarre and derogatory manner, about the peace corp because I had commented on that story..Every comment has been erased from the site …
    But they left the offensive paragraph she had written in the article up.
    How blatantly unfair to censor the comments from the article.Im afrad it is going to be an uphill battle for a long time to come..

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  68. May 11, 2012 1:16 pm

    Great post — I’m really looking forward to these trial summaries! I’ve been meaning to read through the transcripts myself, but it seemed a daunting task, considering how long the trial lasted. . . . So I’m really glad you’re doing this to help educate people like myself in a quicker manner. 🙂

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  69. May 11, 2012 12:20 pm

    “And what is with this thing about mj private parts?? Why are they so hell bent on holding onto those pictures?”

    Nannorris, probably because they hope that at the time when everyone forgets Jordan’s fictional description of Michael’s genitalia they will produce the photos once again and make new horrible allegations against him? And this time they will say the opposite of Jordan’s words and claim that Jordan’s description was correct?

    Actually they have already begun this process as I registered it in several posts in this blog. See this one for example about Michael Jackson unpredictable past which constantly changes according to the haters’ agenda: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/rewriting-history-or-michael-jacksons-unpredictable-past/

    When some time passes WHO WILL BE ABLE TO CHECK? To be able to check it up you need the initial statement from Jordan Chandler to compare it with the photos, but even now we have a problem with finding it. It is stated in indirect sources only, of which we have many though. The initial description implied that the genitalia was dark and said that “Michael was circumcised and had a light splotch on his penis which was the color of his face”.

    But who can guarantee that in some 10 or 20 years from now we will have even indirect sources proving that Jordan’s description was totally wrong? Actually the opposite to reality? Because not only Michael was not circumcised and was left as mother nature made him, but his genitalia was also light as Tom Sneddon mumbled something about a dark splotch found in some indefinite place there!

    When all those final traces of Jordan’s lies disappear and no one remembers who said what the shining hour of Michael Jackson’s haters may come again. Because with no proof whatsoever haters will feel totally free to tell new lies and fully rewrite the history of those allegations again…

    But this can happen only IF WE ALLOW THEM TO DO IT. The way to fight the “rewriting history” process is to record history as it is, without any distortions, and document Jordan’s lies in various studies, articles, videos, blogs, etc.

    We should make sure that the real truth should NEVER be erased from people’s minds!

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  70. nannorris permalink
    May 11, 2012 12:47 am

    I just watched the link to the 40 minute press conference.that Sneddon and the sheriff did..It sickening, they are enjoying themselves so much..When people ask about mj getting his mugshot done or him being incarcerated , Sneddon lights up like a Christmas tree..:((
    But the think I notice is the demon of course asking questions that I think were predetermined , like shouldnt his kids be taken away if there is an arrest warrant, just to throw it out there, and terrify MJ and at the 28 minute mark she says how there are so many people surrounding Jackson , and if was to be doing something illegal to a child , might they be arrested too?? it is like them putting people on notice not to speak up.
    She knew exactly what was going on every step of the way..
    It is so obvious that she is in on all of this
    And then sneddon says he knows about-other settlements, as if it is plural ,”ask Diane” so the only other one was Francia, not one other person came forward ..
    So there they are at this press conference basically advertising for people to come forward..
    It is a testament to what a good person MJ was that more people he knew did not try and take advantage of this opportunity to steal money from him, after the Chandler garbage…
    .

    I also read part of the link , still working on it, about starr saying Mj was simulating sex with a mannequin ,, which of course we all know about, but I was not aware , he couldnt remember if MJ was naked or not????WTH
    How the heck could anyone have really seen something like that and not remember if the most famous person in the world was naked or not …
    I CANNOT believe any of these people believed this family..it is ridiculous

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  71. sanemjfan permalink
    May 11, 2012 12:19 am

    @juney07
    No need to apologize! We all make mistakes. I know what you mean when you reference that article about Sneddon’s retirement pay. His license lapsed last year because, since he’s now retired, he stopped paying his dues and/or completing his required Continuing Professional Education classes. (Most professionals, such as lawyers, accountants, etc., are required to take courses and attend professional workshops to maintain their licenses.)

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  72. appleh permalink
    May 10, 2012 11:57 pm

    I don´t know why they´re not giving the photos back, there is no need for them to hold on to it ! Maybe the Estate should do something !

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  73. juney07 permalink
    May 10, 2012 11:48 pm

    @sanemjfan, sorry for the misinformation on Sneddon’s retirement date in 2006 in my prior comment. I read (somewhere) he retired in 2010 and when I checked the Calbar site, as of 2011 he was “ineligible to practice law”; some in the MJ community really liked seeing that (thinking he was under some sanction, but I figured it was because he retired in 2010). That link to Sneddon’s retirement party in 2006 is really “demonizing”. And, yes, I remember seeing pics of Prince in Germany signing autographs with Weisner in the background. Just how can Joe Jackson associate himself or Michael’s kids with Weisner and his ilk? It’s inconceivable. I recall reading (and believe me I don’t take things at face value) that Michael didn’t share all that much about his past life with his small children and I do believe that was the case, as even Paris when interviewed on Ellen said she thought he “had a few songs”. This work you are doing is invaluable for younger fans and those who are still on the fence. Thank you!

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  74. May 10, 2012 7:40 pm

    Those pictures that weren´t returned…maybe he goes to see them now and then and ———
    and NAMBLA gets to see them pay per view. I`M bad…maybe I´ll be censored.

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  75. nannorris permalink
    May 10, 2012 6:33 pm

    Thanks for that article about Sneddon saying the Arvizo want Michaels jacket and watch back..
    THE TRUTH is so obvious and yet Sneddon just refuses to see it..
    Why would Janet and her little con artists want “The Devils” watch back..
    Are these people just oblivious to all the damage they had done to MJ.??
    Did they want t a keepsake or were heading for ebay?
    I also feel that Sneddon was still trying to smear MJ with the remark about him or his kids getting sick from the stuff they treaated the magazines with..Like he is hanging around pawing through magazines with his kids..
    And what is with this thing about mj private parts??
    Why are they so hell bent on holding onto those pictures?
    They are of no use to anyone, they didnt even match. the description..
    He is a sick sick man..
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  76. Susanne permalink*
    May 10, 2012 3:54 pm

    This is great, David. This kind of summary will help a lot when one needs to find something from the court documents.
    And oh, I love this piece of MJJR.net – I didn’t know it before. Makes the non-sense of these charges so clear.
    I also heard Mez say in an interview (don’t remember which one) that he recommended MJ to leave Neverland because he was sure Michael would not be safe there from further allegations or charges. Dieter Wiesner criticizes Michael slightly in his book for firing 180 staff members at once after the trial. But if you see the whole picture I think there was no other way than to leave the country at that time. He urgently needed to relax and get a distance. He shouldn’t be blamed for that, this was imposed on him by all his detractors and he didn’t do it voluntarily.

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  77. May 10, 2012 2:50 pm

    “..Sneddon argued that the photographs, snapped as part of a 1993-1994 law enforcement investigation into whether Jackson molested a 13-year-old Los Angeles boy, were irrelevant to the entertainer/s 2005 criminal trial.
    “I don/t believe it would be appropriate for the court to consider (releasing) them,” Sneddon said. “They were never entered into evidence.”
    The judge agreed with Sneddon. “I think (the photographs) are subject to the 1993 order and not subject to this court/s order,” Melville said. “I will be making an order that they will be maintained under the previous order.” July 22, 2005
    http://santamariatimes.com/news/local/melville-orders-items-returned/article_de75da5d-d91c-540f-8873-fccd4afac418.html#ixzz1uPgGH7fD

    Lynette, a great find! So on July 22, 2005 when the trial was over Sneddon was saying that the photos from the 1993 case were irrelevant to the 2005 case? But before the verdict was passed the same Sneddon pretended to want to introduce them as some relevant evidence (of we don’t know what)?

    What an incredible logic! Only in that fake Arvizos’ case this absurdity was possible! It started with total craziness of MJ allegedly molesting a “victim” after the whole world started looking at Neverland, and it ended with a similar craziness of the photos being both relevant and irrelevant depending on the situation!

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  78. May 10, 2012 1:02 pm

    David, this is a wonderful piece – compact, precise and informative. It is a really helpful tool for people studying the 2005 case. And this new format of summarizing the testimonies is much better than the previous ones where the testimonies were almost fully reproduced.

    To keep all the testimonies neatly in one place here is a new category for the summaries you have already made and are planning to make: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/category/the-2005-case/testimonies-at-the-2005-trial-summary-and-analysis/

    And thank you for putting in my name in the post now. It is nice to see people acknowledging that I have also done some research in this blog.

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  79. sanemjfan permalink
    May 10, 2012 7:11 am

    @juney07!
    Thanks! Just a few things though:

    Sneddon retired in 2006, not 2010, and Dimond was at his retirement party. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.michael-jackson/browse_thread/thread/73c42e5da94f4deb/87cf91bb080021fc%3Fq%3D%2522Debby%2BDavison%2522%2387cf91bb080021fc&ei=iGwTS6eaOpW8Qpmqic0O&sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&source=groups&usg=AFQjCNEsuP02JAYLiY95p2NTyHZRaIDZhw

    Zonen retired in 2011: http://www.independent.com/news/2011/mar/31/da-vets-step-down/

    Yes, Weisner was recently photographed with Joe and Prince Michael Jackson in Miami and Germany, respectively. Here he is with Joe: http://www.jwjackson.com/?p=646 Dieter didn’t pose with Prince in any photos, but there were seen and photographed talking to each other (unfortunately I don’t have time right now to find the photo.)

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  80. juney07 permalink
    May 10, 2012 6:40 am

    So much information here. I read Defending a King and was impressed by the new information, some repetition, and I had heard from other sites that Mez did encourage Michael to leave Neverland. Seems Sneddon still stuck around, however, as he retired only in 2010 after Michael died. Weisner, Schaffel and Konitzer, wasn’t that Weisner recently pictured dining with Joe Jackson, and wasn’t it Weisner photo’d with Prince Jackson in Germany when Prince presented some lyrics for auction at the Bambi awards. Apparently Weisner still has some connection to the family. As for Frank Cascio, he was an “alleged” coconspirator (according to Sneddon); I’ve read Frank’s book; Frank knew Michael since Frank was a kid, some of what he writes about would have occurred when Frank was in his early teens, so in some instances his memory may be faded. I think he was true to Michael. Someone brought up 2 Seas Records, the venture Michael got roped into in Bahrain; it was interesting to read the MJ/AEG tour agreement where out of “advances” 2 Seas was to be paid $2M; is this an amount Michael owed some Bahraini king? Michael was surrounded by such vermin in the last ten years of his life. I still ask myself why? I’ve drifted off topic here, sorry, but I so enjoy your free wheeling discussions. I look forward to reading more!

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  81. May 10, 2012 5:35 am

    Chris Carter was in jail for robbery and kidnapping; then gives a report on Michaels druguse for the benefit of Sneddon! II don’t doubt he continued to need something for his anxiety disorder. And he did have legit needs for painkillers from time to time. I would give little credence to ex. body guard story and the cocaine was planted.

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  82. May 10, 2012 5:06 am

    So Arvizo kids wanted the gifts back from the man they accused of molesting!
    And Sneddon makes a fuzz over antibiotics and Xanax, Xanax belongs to the same group of drugs as Valium. Works a bit faster and is eliminated faster. No wonder Michael needed something for relaxation and sleep. Street drugaddicts like it for the purpose of coming down after cocaine or crack use. It´s use by Michael in that sitution was clearly medically indicated.

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  83. lynande51 permalink
    May 10, 2012 2:16 am

    Here is an article that gives a run down of the articles of evidence taken during the search of Neverland following the trial. Pay close attention to Tom Sneddon telling the judge that the Arvizo family would like their possessions back too. What molestation victim wants those things back???? The best part of course is that the photos are suddenly irrelevent to the 2005 case?? So what was up with wanting them admitted as evidence? Oh yeah that’s right! To prove that Michael wasn’t shy! Shaking my head at that one?

    Melville orders items returned
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    Quintin Cushner/Senior Staff Writer | Posted: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:00 am | (0) Comments
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    LCCNSanta Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon leaves the Santa Maria Court Complex Thursday morning following the hearing about property. //Aaron Lambert/Staff.
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    Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville ruled Thursday that most items seized from Michael Jackson/s Neverland Valley Ranch should be returned 7 but not photos of the singer/s genitalia.

    The judge said a prior order dictates that those images must remain locked in a safe-deposit box.

    Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon made his first Santa Maria court appearance Thursday since his prosecution of Jackson ended June 13 with the singer/s acquittal on child molestation, alcohol and conspiracy charges.

    Sporting a newly grown goatee, Sneddon argued that the photographs, snapped as part of a 1993-1994 law enforcement investigation into whether Jackson molested a 13-year-old Los Angeles boy, were irrelevant to the entertainer/s 2005 criminal trial.
    “I don/t believe it would be appropriate for the court to consider (releasing) them,” Sneddon said. “They were never entered into evidence.”

    The judge agreed with Sneddon. “I think (the photographs) are subject to the 1993 order and not subject to this court/s order,” Melville said. “I will be making an order that they will be maintained under the previous order.”

    Sneddon also said he opposed returning “contraband” seized from Neverland, near Los Olivos, during the search.

    “Demerol, syringes, clothing that contained Demerol,” Sneddon said, listing the items at Melville/s request. “There was a number of prescriptions that were in other people/s names.”

    Sneddon said the prescriptions were for Xanax and various antibiotics, and that one of the prescriptions was in the name of a Neverland employee.

    Melville ruled that items seized from Neverland and not entered into evidence, including about nine computers, should be returned.

    “Anything you have seized that was not brought to court and was not contraband, should be returned to Mr. Jackson,” Melville said.

    The judge also ruled that all other seized items should be returned to their owner, after the media has time to examine them. However, Melville indicated he would not allow reporters to view numerous videotapes featuring Jackson, the accuser/s family or both.

    “Those have privacy issues and copyright issues and in all likelihood, I would not order their release,” Melville said.

    Jackson/s defense had petitioned for the return of all items seized from the singer. Attorney Stephen Dunkle represented Jackson in court Thursday, but did not make oral arguments.

    “The District Attorney and the Sheriff/s Department are not entitled to retain seized property,” Dunkle wrote in his motion. “…This case is over. Law enforcement is merely holding the seized materials for the Court and has no independent right of possession.”

    As part of its investigation, Santa Barbara County law enforcement seized hundreds of items, including books, magazines and computer hard drives from Neverland.

    Sneddon said he was concerned about returning adult magazines seized from Neverland, because the items underwent a chemical fingerprinting process.

    “They bear a seal on the binder that say they are toxic,” Sneddon said. “I believe there should be some kind of a release signed by Mr. Jackson … if he or one of his children has a toxic reaction to one of those materials.”

    Sneddon also indicated that the boy and the family who accused Jackson of conspiracy and child molestation wanted some of their possessions returned, including a jacket and watch the pop star gave the youth.

    The family also requested the return of their passports, birth certificates and visas, along with applications for those materials. They also wanted several photographs and books returned.
    Jackson was not in court for Thursday/s hearing.

    Quintin Cushner can be reached at 739-2217 or qcushner@

    santamariatimes.com.

    Read more: http://santamariatimes.com/news/local/melville-orders-items-returned/article_de75da5d-d91c-540f-8873-fccd4afac418.html#ixzz1uPgGH7fD

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  84. lynande51 permalink
    May 10, 2012 2:10 am

    It was released on the internet site The Smoking Gun. And I believe that Court TV announced it or CNN or both as far as that goes.

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  85. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 10, 2012 1:36 am

    So if it was Marlon Brando i wonder how he found out because it wasn’t in the papers yet perhaps he stumbled upon it via the Internet. I knew Miko worked for MJ though.

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  86. lynande51 permalink
    May 10, 2012 1:28 am

    Marlon Brando I believe is what he said.

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  87. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 10, 2012 1:27 am

    Can some one confirm for me in that Larry king interview with Ed Bradley did he say it was Marlon Brando or Miko Brando that was on the phone to MJ about the leaked document on the internet?

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  88. lynande51 permalink
    May 10, 2012 1:18 am

    He and the Sheriff’s investigators were looking to prosecute Michael on drug charges related to the unlabeled vial, with what they claimed were trace amounts of Demerol in it and the four prescription bottles found in bag number 510 from the attic storage of the video library. It is against the law to carry prescriptions outside their original container and a federal offense for someone other than a Doctor, Registered Nurse or Pharmacist to remove the label from a container. It must be wasted (thrown away) according to a very specific protocol. In the Prosecutions Opposition to Defense Motion to Dismiss they attached a Sheriff’s record and it was discussed that they might consider charges against Michael regarding the vial because prior to testing they believed that it was a controlled substance.
    This is an article that The Sun ran so of course there is all kinds of misinformation in it and also Sneddon or the office did not reply. He was going to try to bring Michael back from Bahrain on these trumped up drug charges if you believe anything in the article. Of course their source was none other that Michael’s former Security Guard Chistopher Eric Carter. If there is any word of truth in this article, because I can tell you there is very little regarding the drugs, it is that Sneddon would not let go, he wanted him back in Santa Barbara County where he could harass him some more.As much as Sneddon and company hated the outcome of the trial I have no doubt whatsoever that if it had been Demerol in it they would have hauled him back to the United States on a possession charge, unless of course a Doctor or a Registered Nurse took the responsibility for removing the vial label to waste it or it turned out that it was not Demerol.
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/192164/Cocaine-in-Jackos-pants.html
    http://www.shouselaw.com/doctor-shopping.html
    http://www.shouselaw.com/hs-11350.html#2.1
    http://www.shouselaw.com/hs-11350.html#4.2

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  89. sanemjfan permalink
    May 10, 2012 12:41 am

    @aldebaran
    Here is an excerpt from “Defending A King” where Mesereau explains why he told MJ to leave the country. From pages 269-270:

    Get out of there!” Thomas Mesereau advised his weary, wornout,but relieved client by telephone.”Why? What have you heard, Tom?” Michael Jackson asked his attorney, with anxiety in his voice.
    “No specific words, but the District Attorneys are humiliated and angry over your acquittal, Michael. They won’t stop until they get you on something. You need to get out of their reach.” Mesereau was advising his client and friend to “Get out of Dodge” for his own safety and peace of mind.

    “You don’t need a law degree to understand this verdict,” announced CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin. “It is an absolute …victory for Michael Jackson, utter humiliation and defeat for
    Thomas Sneddon,… who has been pursuing Michael Jackson for more than a decade, who brought a case that was not one that this jury bought at all.”
    Sneddon and his fellow prosecutors felt
    humiliated on a personal level, Mesereau knew, and pressured on a professional level, because of their public failure and the untold millions of dollars of tax payers’ money that they squandered.

    It had taken sixty-six days to get the case to the jury, forty-five for the prosecution to present their side, fifteen for the defense, and ten days for the jury’s deliberation, Before the trial, more than a decade of attempts to nail Michael Jackson had failed; seventy-plus sheriffs raided Neverland; and more than 100 search warrants were issued. The costs for these extraordinary efforts-coupled with the exorbitant budget line-item for security for the trial—were staggering and, to some, alarming.

    Thomas Mesereau was convinced that the Santa Barbara D.A. might use any future incident—such as a child or teenager who might be injured after having trespassed onto Neverland to explore the
    property—by jumping on it as evidence of some sinister or inappropriate behavior by Michael Jackson
    . A full, intrusive investigation would ensue, and on and on. Certain individuals from the media had already been promised, by the D.A.’s office, the special privilege of immediate notice of any alleged infraction by Michael Jackson or one of his “people.” They were guaranteed the opportunity for first coverage of such an event.

    At first, Michael Jackson was reluctant to leave Neverland; it meant so much to him,” Mesereau explains. “But he realized the truth in what I was telling him … and the danger.”

    Gee, who do you think the are the “certain individuals” who were promised by Sneddon to get immediate notice of any future investigations of MJ? LOL!

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  90. May 10, 2012 12:30 am

    @sanemjfan This new task of yours is probably one of the most important blogs you will ever do on this site, for the reasons you stated–young people who want to know the truth about Michael need an unbiased place that can give them access to it. I’m looking forward to directing doubters here, where everything they need to know will be right at their finger tips. Thanks for taking it on.

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  91. nannorris permalink
    May 10, 2012 12:03 am

    I could be wrong but I thought that The defense asked for some stuff back after the trial was over and the prosecutors wanted to hold onto things in case another case came up..Like even after all this , they still were thinking of putting him through this nightmare again..I have heard Mesereau himself say that he advised MJ to leave because he humiliated them all and they wouldnt forget it…

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  92. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 9, 2012 11:25 pm

    Good stuff David

    @aldebaran

    “The whole Two Seas venture was a mistake–how could MJ have written music to another person’s lyrics? Didn’t make sense to me and neither did Bahrain.”

    Writing music to someone else’s lyrics is not impossible it can be done and has been done in the music industry a lot of times.

    i don’t think it was a bad idea going to Bahrain MJ needed to recover and he needed to go somewhere secluded and out of the media spotlight although some of the press got pictures of him in Bahrain but it wasn’t as wild there as it would have been if he stayed in the US.

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  93. sanemjfan permalink
    May 9, 2012 11:01 pm

    @aldebaran
    I have read Dr. Moriarty’s book, and boy do I have an opinion on it! LOL! Here is my review on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Defending-King-His-Life-Legacy/product-reviews/0741470314/ref=cm_cr_dp_qt_hist_two?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addTwoStar I gave it 2 out of 5 stars. I deducted 1 star for the inclusion of Stacy Brown’s tabloid article about the Jackson family being broke in 2008 (which she unknowingly cut and pasted from a so-called MJ fan book), 1 star for the exclusion of Jason Francia’s testimony from her chapters on the 2005 trial (as the second most important witnesss in that trial, in my opinion, Dr. Moriarty should have given readers a summary of his testimony, especially since she referenced the settlement that he received), and I deducted 1 star for the totality of her other miscellaneous mistakes (such as using TMZ, Topix, Radar Online, and Wikipedia as sources for some of her research).

    If you haven’t done so already, read my summary of Jason Francia’s testimony to see why I was so livid that he was excluded from her book! https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/fact-checking-michael-jacksons-christian-faith-part-5-of-6-exposing-the-lies-of-the-youth-minister-jason-francia/

    You can read this post to see the Stacy Brown tabloid article that Dr. Moriarty included AS TRUTH in her book! It’s the one that said that Marlon Jackson was bagging groceries in a supermarket, and Randy Jackson was changing tires! https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2012/02/29/summary-and-analysis-of-the-testimonies-of-stacy-brown-and-bob-jones-the-authors-of-michael-jackson-the-man-behind-the-mask-part-3-of-3/

    Now, back to your question: yes, Mesereau said MJ wanted to stay at Neverland, but he advised MJ to just leave in order to prevent another false prosecution based on trumped up charges. If you want, I can email you a PDF copy of the book, and after you read it you’ll see why I gave it such a poor review, despite the author’s best intentions. I posted an excerpt from the book in a new comment above where Mesereau explains why he told MJ to leave the country.

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  94. aldebaran permalink
    May 9, 2012 9:53 pm

    Thanks, sanemjfan and lynande51, for the responses to my question re who leaked the declaration. So perhaps others had access besides Larry Feldman? I am assuming that Evan Chandler kept a copy–even if he wasn’t supposed to (he probably wrote it, after all). Or maybe the court docs were obtained by the press before they were sealed? It would be good to know what actually happened here. I will check the link you gave, lynande51, thanks.

    Re the injuries from the handcuffs. I have read comments questioning them, so if a doctor would look at the photo MJ showed to Ed Bradley then a doctor could authenticate that these injuries were likely from the too tight handcuffs and the way MJ’s arms were positioned behind his back. Makes me so mad that MJ was handcuffed at all, when Murray was not!

    Another question: Has anyone read in Karen Moriarty’s book where she says that Tom Mesereau says that MJ did not want to leave Neverland after the trial and that T. Mez had to convince him to leave. T. Mez believed that if he stayed at NL that the sheriffs etc would still look for an excuse to arrest him again. I was surprised at that info b/c we were led to think that MJ wanted to leave NL b/c he said to Bradley it was no longer a home and that he would only visit there. Going to Bahrain IMO was not a good idea. If MJ had stayed at NL at least for a while to regroup, he would have been better off IMO. Moriarty interviewed Mesereau for her book, so I am assuming her info is correct. The whole Two Seas venture was a mistake–how could MJ have written music to another person’s lyrics? Didn’t make sense to me and neither did Bahrain.

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  95. nannorris permalink
    May 9, 2012 8:06 pm

    This is really terrific..Thank you for doing all this hard work and research…
    .I too , started with the “MJ Consiracy book” and went looking for more information because ,for one thing, I worked at a courthouse for ten years , knew lots of good people in law enforcement and the local D.A. office , and I was suspicious that she was spinning one side..
    I also wanted to make sure she wasnt “cherry picking” particular remarks in the testimony..
    I was flabbergasted when I really looked at the case .It is astounding these prosecutors got away with this, and that is , really one of the reasons , I am so vocal about this case..
    Not only was MJ totally innocent , these prosecutors abused the power of their office on so many occasions.
    The fact that the media let them get away with this for ratings is equally depressing and distressing..
    Truly the bottom of the barrel..

    Stupidly, and I think it is because Sneddon was infatuated with Diane Dimond, he was trying to impress her and everyone else with how smart and powerful he was.
    While it might benefit a tabloid reporter to be so deep with a group of prosecutors , it reflects very badly on them as they should be held to a higher standard.
    To find out that DD is a manipulative lying tabloid reporter, is not surprising , …just as it isnt surprising when a snake acts like a snake
    But these prosecutors went down the same path and they should be exposed for it..
    It is articles like this that expose what they did and that will eventually make the persecution of MJ a mainstream realization..
    The real conspiracy was between the prosecutors and the sheriff dept..
    I also want to point out that in my opinion, Sneddon has to acknowledge the good works that took place at Neverland , because Mesereau would bring it up..
    Even the juror in the wheelchair had been there as a youth, so he has to say something
    ..
    And I remember watching the Bashir documentary when it aired , I was not a fan , didnt follow MJ career, but it was obvious that Bashir was a slimeball , manipulating things..
    Sneddon knew all this , he just seized the OPPORTUNITY to paint MJ as a monster..
    I have read his opening statement in entirety and it is just all over the place ..stupid..

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  96. lynande51 permalink
    May 9, 2012 7:29 pm

    David there were other far more interesting things in the list that William Dickerman asked for back that were redacted in the released version of the emails and letters between him and Mark Geragos. It seems that Janet was asking for all video and audio tape recordings of the Arvizo’s to be returned to her. Like the recording of them on the record with a representative if Michael’s lawyer recorded on Feb.16th,2003. Janet Arvizo first met with Dickerman on Feb.21st at the Laugh Factory in the company of Jamie Masada. The irony is that Vinnie Amen was the one that dropped her off there. So what does that prove? That Janet was well aware that she was on the record saying only good things about Michael on more than one occasion and wanted those recording in her possession. Why would you want that if you had nothing to hide and no intention to sue?

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  97. lynande51 permalink
    May 9, 2012 6:47 pm

    @ aldebaran
    Actually it was probably leaked to The Smoking Gun via Diane Dimond or someone like the Chandler’s who had a vested interest in seeing that the public remembered what took place in 1993. Jordan’s declaration and selected pieces of Blanca Francia’s and the Havenhurst Five’s depositions were filed with the court on Jan. 11th along with Feldman’s request for Michael’s financial records. When some of the documents were filed with the court they were open not sealed so journalists were able to get them because they are in the public domain until they are sealed.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1994-01-11/local/me-10709_1_michael-jackson

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  98. Jovana permalink
    May 9, 2012 5:43 pm

    Reading that so called Michael’s ” confession” made the prosecutors case look even more ridiculous, i dont know how the case was even allowed to the trial. This honestly should be framed, its great. Its not a laughing matter but it made me laugh for a moment “dont ask how the furniture fits into all this” omg….
    Poor Michael, the accusations really didnt make any sense.

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  99. sanemjfan permalink
    May 9, 2012 11:33 am

    @aldebaran
    In all liklihood, it was Larry Feldman who either personally the leaked the 1993 settlement document after the Bashir documentary aired, or authorized it to be leaked . He was the only one in possession of it, besides MJ. Helena discussed the leak of the 1993 document in this post: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/reading-between-the-lines-of-larry-feldmans-speech-the-story-of-leaks-part-1/

    To my knowledge, no doctor has ever publicly spoken about the injuries that MJ suffered during his arrest.

    Frank Cascio and Vincent Amen weren’t suspected of taking advantage of MJ; it was only Dieter Wiesner, Ronald Konitzer, and Marc Schaffel. I’ll make a note of that in bullet point #27. Thanks!

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  100. aldebaran permalink
    May 9, 2012 10:44 am

    WOW!!! Lots of good info here. I am trying to process it all. The Ed Bradley conversation with Larry King is amazing in terms of what it reveals about the 1993 declaration being leaked. Does anyone know who leaked it? Was it Sneddon? I have read comments about the injuries due to the handcuffs–has any doctor spoken about those injuries? That would be good to know. Interesting that the NYTimes did not bother to check sources–going with dubious, anonymous sources sounds like the tabloids to me.

    Poor Michael–I just hate what those ‘law enforcement’ (law-breaking) people did to him. He looks so upset in the CNN statement he gave after the strip-search and also in the Ed Bradley interview. He was railroaded by a racist, power-mad, uncontrolled group of people who had the force of the state behind them.

    About the managers–the quotes from Mesereau–was Frank Cascio also in on this effort by Dieter, Schaffel, Konitzer? Just wondering since he was a co-conspirator as well.

    Thanks for this–great work!

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