OPEN LETTER TO VICTOR GUTIERREZ by Marcelo Morales Navarro
Two days after Michael Jackson’s death, on June 27, 2009 Marcelo Morales Navarro from Chile wrote an Open Letter to Victor Gutierrez, the author of a pedophiliac book of lies about MJ called “Michael Jackson Was My Lover – The Secret Diary of Jordan Chandler”.
The title sounds sensational, however the problem is that the boy never had a diary and all we see in the opus is the author’s own fantasy of conversations and fictional activities between a adult and a boy which in reality never took place (at least between MJ and Chandler).
The fact that the diary was non-existent and consequently Gutierrez invented most of the story was confirmed by the boy’s uncle Ray Chandler who was not above slandering Michael Jackson himself, but even he at some stage grew so resentful of Victor Gutierrez that called him a “sleazebag”:
- Ray Chandler said he did not endorse that book. “Victor Gutierrez is a sleazebag,” he said.
Marcelo Morales, author of the Open Letter has similar words to describe Gutierrez with, however his letter was in Spanish and its computer translation did not reflect all the nuances of the text, so the letter had to be put aside and wait for its hour for more than three years.
This hour came when our reader [the Internet name is Aldebaranredstar] made a generous present to this blog and volunteered to translate the letter into English. Now that we’ve read it in perfect English we see that the letter is absolutely brilliant. This is why I am making a special post for it and on behalf of all Michael’s supporters would like to thank Alderanredstar very much indeed for the selfless desire to help and the great work done.
In a reply to his Chilean readers Marcelo Morales said that he had sent this open letter to all major national newspapers, but curiously only two independent newspapers – El Pardiario and El Nortero – published it. Hundreds of Victor Gutierrez’s compatriots who left their comments on the article reacted in rare unison and said that the article reflected everything they think about this parasite. Yes, a parasite is how Victor Gutierrez’s countrymen call him in almost each of their posts.
The letter will hopefully be only opening the discussion of Victor Gutierrez and will be followed with other information about this sleazebag, who stood behind the 1993 allegations against Michael Jackson and whom we see as the main reason why they were made at all:
Open Letter to Victor Gutierrez:
I suppose that you must be happy with the death of Michael Jackson; that your cell phone hasn’t stopped ringing; and that your fees for articles and interviews have increased substantially. I suppose that now you can breathe easy knowing that the plaintiff has died and the case that you lost in 1997 is closed and that the $2.7 million that you were ordered to pay after losing the suit in USA will no longer bother you.
When you said you had in your power a video that incriminated Michael Jackson in compromising circumstances and you were not able to prove its existence and you lost the case, Chilean journalism was affected, its image, its professionalism, its ethics.
But you said:
“I declared bankruptcy and I had 10 years to come up with the money. June 07 was the deadline and after that, they can get nothing.” This strategy of letting time pass, of finding solutions that could be legal but which have nothing to do with morality, is habitual with you; it portrays the misery of your person and your lack of values, the total ignorance of living honorably, the indecency of a vulture and the immorality of a deadbeat conman throwing accusations in the air, unable to prove the truth of your statements.
Nor did you respond when in 2001 the Supreme Court of Chile sentenced you to pay $47,000 to Cecilia Bolocco for saying without any foundation that she was the lover of the Brazilian writer Paulo Coehlo. Here also you did not have the decency to pay the fine. How easy to do what you do, trash people, gain a lot of money in interviews, write books and articles full of lies and not lose anything when fines are levied against you when you lose, which has always been the case with you. How easy and how miserable is your life as a parasite. What evil you do to society.
“A journalist will not invent sources, covering them up as ‘insiders,” “an official,” etc. guarding in this manner the credibility and dignity of the profession.” (Article 8vo. Code of Ethics of Journalism).
In ‘Las Ultimas Noticias de Hoy’ [The News of the Day] you said, “Now I can negotiate the movie rights to my book, negotiations which were on hold,” “and of course programs all around the world are calling me to sell them information and even photos which I have of him when he was a child.”
What morality, Mr. Gutierrez, in continuing to negotiate, continuing to earn money at another’s cost, continuing the pursuit of money with a disgraceful agenda, even in death. You have gone beyond all the limits of decency and respect, you have gone beyond the Sixth Article of the Code of Ethics of a journalist, which says, “A journalist must always establish a clear distinction between facts, opinions, and interpretations, preventing all confusion or deliberate distortion between them.”
In 2003 when you knew the scandalous history of Claudio Spiniak YOU had no qualms in connecting Joaquin Lavin, at this time candidate for the presidency, with pedophilia, earning you once again a complaint that you could not prove your assertions with facts. You had no qualms about imagining a montage that infected a public candidate with the web of pedophilia. As always, it all ended in nothing but YOU. You waited for the waters to become calm, hiding your head like an ostrich.
This morning you said on ADN radio “Why keep talking about Michael Jackson when there are more important subjects?” And YOU said this? You who have lived and fed for years on reports and articles based on lies? You who have never had the honor to face criticism or pay what justice has imposed? How can you say there are more important topics if YOU have lived on these stories? How can you be such a miserable human being, a journalist who can reach this level of sordidness and dishonesty.
“I am not gay; my partner is gay” (VG, Revista El Periodista, 31 March 2003).
To me YOU are a despicable person, who in your known and infamous homosexuality we see sexual deviations from Pisces to Aquarius and who looks for fame and money in the worst manner; far from morality and professional ethics, committing murders of reputations and when these portraits you paint are shown in reverse, we see a faggot in the most literal of definitions.
The homosexual person is someone proper and respectable and I have nothing against that person, but to be a shit faggot like YOU I condemn it openly, and I regard as a lowlife scum one who inundates society with evil, with falsity, hypocrisy and dishonesty.
YOU will never make a real contribution as a journalist, you are merely a paparazzi who gossips about life and who is distant from ethics, decency, and values.”
Michael Jackson, thank you for your music that filled the celebrations of my youth with happiness, and for your enormous contribution to the music of the world. Rest in peace.
Marcelo Morales Navarro
Excellent post! Thanks Helena. This must be shared in the wake of ‘Leaving Neverland’.
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I wonder what Gutierrez would do if someone did to him what he did to Michael. Not just aided in the allegations but the stalking him. Suppose someone followed him for years and spoke to everyone that he spoke to? I wonder just what his reaction would be.
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A great find, Helena. VG’s whole life seems to pivot on p…lia.
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“Nabokov wrote “Lolita”. He says he is writing about a monster and there exists not a family more miserable than what he writes about”.
Kaarin, you cannot imagine how very much to the point was your comment on Nabokov. I haven’t read Lolita though the author is Russian (I had my prejudices against him), but since you say he portrays the main character as a monster I realize that I was wrong. And now I have also found a very good review of Nabokov’s Lolita by a Chilean literary critic who says that Lolita was written not by a pedophile and argues about it with … Victor Gutierrez.
Our ever-present Victor Gutierrez has read the novel and calls Nabokov names, but I am not surprised – pedophiles regard almost every piece of fiction about children as pedophilia. Professor Kincaid (who supported Tom O’Carroll’s book) also “proves” in his lectures that the Victorian literature is full of it.
This is a very characteristic trait of real pedophiles – they recommend to each other books about children by this and that author as if they are written by ped-les. And Victor Gutierrez is no different. He sees in all those books what others do not. Kaarin did not see anything like that in Nabokov and the Chilean critic does not either, while Gutierrez sees pedophilia on every page of it.
It is also very interesting that in his own book about MJ Victor Gutierrez speaks of the alleged ped-lia as a normal thing, while Nabokov shows its full abnormality and uses black humor to portray the phenomenon. This is where the big difference is – one speaks of it as normal, while the other sees it as a monstrosity.
Here are some pieces from the literary review (computer translated from Spanish):
But as far as we know Victor Gutierrez is not raising his voice against the sad reality! No, he justifies it in his book and even says with some hope (in Peretti’s film) – “Who knows, probably these relations will be accepted in a hundred years?”
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@Greet
Oh that i have already seen thanks for providing the video anyway.
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Here it is :
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I remember that or he sang it or said it in a concert in Holland, maybe I can find it back (Google). At the time I did not pay much attention to it. But after seeing the vid about Michael, I thought it could be important. It was not that he said what would happen, but he warned there would be an attack. Will try to find out exactly though.
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@Greet
Cool how did Prince predict 9/11?
Did he mention it in a song?
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Thank you helen a for the link. I will surely read as much as I can about this.
I read your post and it seems like a very similar experience that had Anita Moorjani.
Michael talked about the music of the spheres…
Did he know more than we ?
Prince (Purple rain) said something like that in a vid…. “Michael might know something none of us really know.. let’s wait it out, let’s just wait it out”And, Prince knows a lot too…. remember he predicted and warned for the the 9/11disaster ?
Sometimes I have the feeling too that Michael knew more. Such a special man….
http://anitamoorjani.com/
Sorry this is off topic, but, well, VG is surely showing himself from the worst side. Maybe we should have some mercy on him, at least try to let hate not destroy ourselves. But OOOOh, am I angry on him.
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I am wondering what VG did to support himself all those years in LA from 84 to the time he started to get money from the tabloids, people like DD. Did he sell stories to the tabloids? How did he bankroll his ‘investigations’? Did someone else bankroll him? His employment is very sketchy, yet he was able to go around stirring up all this trouble.
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@Mrarcelo
Thank you for that letter I hope that scumbag knows his own country men hate him too.
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Like a gift from heaven, just as I had written the comment below (I have the night TV on,a mix. of music and news) the sweetest Michael Jackson song comes on: The girl is mine. Yes she is, the world is yours!
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Victor Guitirrez is a coldblooded psychopath who has dedicated his lifework to character assasinate Michael. He is as guilty as Murray. I keep the last picture of Murray’s trial, a photo taken of his lower back ,where you can see the handcuffs. My hope is to see the same on Victor Guitirrez. Murray committed 2-3 months to gross malpractice on Michael. Guitirrez – decades, his life. He is just as guilty. It is an abomination that journalists don´t need to be licensed. Why is there not an American Board of Licensed Journalists? This no way means that they be totally silenced. But the most heinous psychological stalking via press and TV would be prohibited.
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“The News Week article is in the Oct.15:th 2012 nr.,By Dr. Eben Alexander.An academic neurosurgeon,Harvard Medical School and other universities.The name of the article is;MY PROOF OF HEAVEN.” – kaarin
The doctor’s experience is a huge breakthrough in our understanding of reality, who we are and what is awaiting us. I’ve just read it, it is here:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/07/proof-of-heaven-a-doctor-s-experience-with-the-afterlife.html
Michael is over there now. However I doubt that Gutierrez will get there. His dirty earthly deeds will probably never let him rise to so high a realm:
The riddle of it from the point of view of science:
The doctor’s conclusion:
The message the doctor heard there :
I am lost for words.
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Thank you Mr. Morales and Helena. It is good there are people like you who provide us that information.
About :
“VMj the News Week article is in the Oct.15:th 2012 nr.,By Dr. Eben Alexander.An academic neurosurgeon,Harvard Medical School and other universities.The name of the article is;MY PROOF OF HEAVEN..(page 46)When a neurosurgeon found himself in a coma,he expierienced things he never thought possible-a journey to the afterlife.On the front page ,up on top there is a headline:Life After Death.By a Doctor Who Expierienced it.
It is not one of those ,not so unusual, out of the body expieriences. He has known patients of his own who has had that.A book will be published about it too, by Simon & &Schuster.inc.”
I would like to post hereafter the link to the website of Anita Moorjani. I discovered about 2 months ago, because she knows Dr. Dyer, who, as we all know, said some positive things about Michael, and dedicated one of his books to Michael (“Real Magic”). Her story makes me constantly think about Michael.
There are many interviews with Anita when you search her name in YouTube.
I find it very interesting, and must say that I am pretty much going in that direction, what (magically) started… on June 25, 2009.
http://anitamoorjani.com/
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Nooo, please, Helena, you’re no idiot. This is just human. We’re not made for being 100% perfect, lol!!
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Marcelo, we are very happy to see you in this blog. Bravo to you for the Open letter to Gutierrez and thanks a lot for your readiness to help! By making that letter you have won thousands of friends the world over in a single moment.
If you don’t mind one of our readers will write to you in Spanish explaining what we have found out about Gutierrez and asking you some questions about him, if we may.
We have learned that Gutierrez is more than an ordinary hater. He was most probably the reason why the first accusations against Michael were made in 1993 at all.
If you want to write anything about Gutierrez in this blog you are more than welcome. Some of our readers know Spanish and will hopefully help with the translation if you prefer to write in Spanish.
The sources available to us have very scarce information about Gutierrez so we are interested to know everything you know about him. Even a minor, seemingly insignificant detail may help in finding who Gutierrez really is and why he is doing it to Michael Jackson. In case there are some issues you would not want to make public, please contact me by email.
Thank you very much again for your readiness to help.
God help us all.
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Susanne, thank you very much! This is the kind of funny mistakes when I am in a hurry. Sometimes I am a complete idiot. Now it has been corrected. Thanks again!
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Helena, may I just call your attention to a little mistake in your first sentence of the post? It should be June 27, not September 27.
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Good stuff, Marcelo. I applaud you.
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Thank you all for your comments, glad you liked the letter, the truth is that I did with humility, feelings and respect for MJ and clar leave the journalist Victor Gutierrez is a being who does not deserve any respect.
I am at your service.
a hug
Marcelo Morales
Chile
marcelo11morales@gmail.com
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Just read that article.It is astounding. No,we will still have to think and make decisions and act upon them.But it greatly enhances thinking and the creation of ideas when people put their thoughts together with others.
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VMj the News Week article is in the Oct.15:th 2012 nr.,By Dr. Eben Alexander.An academic neurosurgeon,Harvard Medical School and other universities.The name of the article is;MY PROOF OF HEAVEN..(page 46)When a neurosurgeon found himself in a coma,he expierienced things he never thought possible-a journey to the afterlife.On the front page ,up on top there is a headline:Life After Death.By a Doctor Who Expierienced it.
It is not one of those ,not so unusual, out of the body expieriences. He has known patients of his own who has had that.A book will be published about it too, by Simon & &Schuster.inc.
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Wow that was a deep letter thanks for translating it.
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This show ‘Maikal Perez Jackson’ is so infantile, just like VG. He is a true psychopath with no remorse or conscience, like DD, TS, Maureen Orth or Bashir. These are people without shame.
I know Michael and Jesus are very different BUT Jesus was mocked and so was Michael by fools who did not understand great teachers and prophets.
As Shakespeare said, ‘Let Hercules himself do what he may, the cat will mew and dog will have his day.”
VG is the dog having his day, but Michael’s day will live forever, and the world will know who VG really is–a Judas who got his 30 pieces of silver.
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I haven’t read VG’s trash book, but there are excerpts I have read. One excerpt is truly amazing. In it Jordan and Michael are in Monaco, and getting ready to go to the Award ceremony when Michael says he wants to molest Jordan, who says, we’ll be late, and Michael says it will be quick, and so Jordan takes off his pants, and Michael performs oral sex, and then they go to the Awards. It is all presented as if you are saying, Oh, I need to get a drink of water or make a call or something quite routine. There is no emotion, and it is all cut and dried, completely without any human emotion. It is the most amazingly DEAD account of a human sexual exchange I have ever read!!! I can’t believe anyone would think it was a true account. The word ‘lover’ doesn’t apply–this act as described is mechanical, dead, loveless, and of course that is just like the sick-minded writer VG.
For someone like Michael, who was so emotionally expressive in music, dancing, speaking, this is such a false portrayal, and it is clear to me that VG had no idea AT ALL who Michael Jackson really was, what kind of intellect, artist, what kind of person, what kind of heart and soul. He never knew Michael Jackson AT ALL in any sense of the word!! So in that way, VG is a very sad person b/c he missed knowing about the wonderful Michael Jackson and only ‘knew’ an invention of his own mind with that name, someone who never existed.
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“After Michael’s death he puts up a show on Chile TV, a burlesque,comic show called:Maikel Perez Jackson y Victor Guitirrez. On 28/8 2009.” –
Kaarin, I’ve had a look and you know what? I rarely feel hate for someone, but over here I have a cold desire to stamp out this insect with my foot – to clean the earth of this dirt.
This is happening only two months after Michael’s death, on the eve of his birthday!
And THIS kind of an “expert” was “consulting” NBC, Diane Dimond, Bashir and others all these years?
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It’s okay, I’m used to correcting them. Could you give a link to the article in Newsweek, please? Is it about proof for our thoughts to be material enough to change the world?
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V.G. is a coldblooded, heartless psychopath. After Michael’s death he puts up a show on Chile TV, a burlesque,comic show called:Maikel Perez Jackson y Victor Guitirrez.On 28/8 2009.
He does this to a man, the object of his past obssessive love and lust, of whose death he is partly to blame,and who , by slandering him brought him riches he could not have even dreamed of.
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VMJ- they say our thoughts are material-I just read an incredible article by a neurosurgeon in News Week. It was increbible. I will get back to it later. And sorry for typos,part of my signature.My spoken English is 99.90% fluent..
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Alderabanredstar, I managed to get to that Dancingwiththeekephant site. Very good and great comments. I agree that the child molestation hysteria of the time may have been a welcome smokescreen for the the child neglect allowed by the big powers at the time.
Also I think that even if Michael never met VG in person he must have had a sense of this vile persecution going on and that it may have been an underlying layer in some of his lyrics.
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An addendum to my questionnaire: I got somewhat concerned afterwards that I put “Homosexual” in there with “pedofilia”.I know they do not go together, there might be the occasinal exception to the rule. I want to refer to the open letter translated by Aldebaranredstrar on the post MJ-93 case where he touches on this subject and that I fully agree.
I hope that I did not hurt anybody’s feelings.
Now the next questionnaire, we know VG has a gay partner. SO , is this his partner 1. in bed , 2.in crime. 3. both , 4. neither.
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“Is this letter saying that Victor Gutierrez received a salary of $86,000 to defame Michael?” – Doris Gorgo
This was a mistake of one of the readers. His salary for defaming was $25,000 but even this was a huge sum. Victor Gutierrez was very proud of it. Newspapers said that he was the highest paid Chilean journalist working abroad.
“Perhaps the fans knowing about this can dig deeper into finding out who else was behind this scheme; I am sure there were many. Of course, we all know Sneddon was involved. It would be great if we could find out if Demon Diane Dimond was involved”
We do know that Diane Dimond was involved. She said that Victor Gutierrez was her “best source”. Here is a quote from the court documents concerning Michael Jackson’s lawsuit against Diane Dimond over the false video tape which never existed. That information was provided by Dimond’s best source – Victor Gutierrez:
In reality the tape never existed. The mother of the boy – Margaret Macdonaldo – had not seen the tape, had never talked to Victor Gutierrez and had never even heard this crazy story until a friend called her and said what was happening. The officer from the D.A. department talked to Victor Gutierrez on January 5, 1995 but dismissed the case. Nevertheless Diane Dimond reported it four days later on January 9, 1995.
Sneddon made a statement clearing Dimond out of this situation. The judge decided that she was not acting with malice and was let down by her best source Victor Gutierrez. Gutierrez was sued by Michael for slander and in 1998 was sentenced to pay $2,7 mln. but fled to Chile and never paid. In 2004 he returned to the USA to work for NBC together with Diane Dimond again. He was given a job to cover the 2005 trial where Tom Sneddon was the prosecutor. This how close these three are interconnected.
P.S. Not a single cent was deducted from Gutierrez’s salary to pay to Michael Jackson.
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Victor Gutierrez is a totally sick man. His mind is sick, his fantasies are sick and he is living in a sick world of his, seeing nothing but dirt around him, even when there is none.
Now they say that our thoughts are ‘material’ (and not immaterial and ephemeral), so through one’s thoughts each person creates an environment of his own. By the lyrics of his songs, his thoughts and ideas Michael created an environment everyone would want to live in. But what kind of an environment Gutierrez creates by his way of thinking? After reading his book I feel nauseous even at imagining it.
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4. All of the above 😀
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A multiple questionaire:(what do you think?):Is V.G.1 a homosexual, 2.a pederast,
3, a pedophile,4.allof the above, 5. none of the above.
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Aldebaranredstar,re your post Oct.21 2012 at 2:33am.That is what I have thought too,He acts like a vengevful rejected lover.
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marcelo.entretiempos@gmail.com
This is the email for Marcelo Morales Navarro, the Executive Director of an online newspaper called Entre Tiempos.
It might be a good idea to contact him? What do you think? The website is current, 2012.
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Gutierrez was the originator. He and the pervs at NAMBLA had their agenda for Michael. Being a journalist, he had a lot to gain from that standpoint as well.
And the saddest part is, not many people know of his actual involvement with the Chandler’s and the allegations.
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I came across this post by someone with an internet name of Jacksonaktak about VG on the website Dancingwiththeelephant:
“All this about Gutierrez should be kept in mind when you consider his role in the allegations against Michael, which seems to be a lot more than what most people realize. He might actually even be the originator of it as he before the Chandlers made their allegations he made his rounds among parents of Michael’s young friends spreading the seeds and alleging to them that Michael was a pedophile. For example, he approached Joy Robson, the mother of Wade Robson with this claim in 1992. Joy did not buy it, but one year later Evan Chandler might have. Considering Gutierrez’s ‘interesting’ views on pedophilia, spreading this lie might serve a more sinister agenda than simple tabloid sensationalism. BTW, many of the prosecution’s witnesses in 2005, most of the ex-employees, had a contact with Gutierrez. It’s interesting to track down that he was virtually everywhere in this case behind the scenes.”
Thanks for the change in the ‘MJ’ part, VMJ.
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V.G. has show on Chile TeVe called Maikel Perez Jackson y Victor Guitirrez started on 28/8/09.I believe that date was the first show,then there are more 25.9 & 27.9 /09. You can get to see them through youtube.Sorry for the bad news, but what else can you expect.
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I heard about this sleezebag’s book, but never knew what the book contained. Thank you for posting the open letter. It is very interesting. Kudos to Mr.Morales. Excellent work. It seems as though there were many who were paid to lie. Is this letter saying that Victor Gutierrez received a salary of $86,000 to defame Michael? Perhaps the fans knowing about this can dig deeper into finding out who else was behind this scheme; I am sure there were many. Of course, we all know Sneddon was involved. It would be great if we could find out if Demon Diane Dimond was involved. She reported untruths and lies about Michael and continues to do so whenever the opportunity arises. She was (and perhaps still is) a very good friend of Tom Sneddon’s.
If there is anything at all that the fans can do to help expose these despicable individuals, let us know. Please keep the fans posted. Justice for Michael!!!
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“Also he has written extensively in Chile and about MJ. Those papers may not be around anymore,but perhaps somebody has saved up.”
Kaarin, I’ve saved a lot of texts from that Hideout forum and some Spanish newspapers, but the language barrier is a problem. Many of the texts concern Gutierrez accusing people of ped-lia and the methods he uses, but in matters like these details are important which escape you when reading in a computer translation.
Generally speaking I must say that the information about Gutierrez himself is unnaturally scarce. No personal information at all and almost nothing about his family. It is almost like someone swept away all information about him from the net.
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I am glad that Victor Guitirrez is under the microscope. Too bad he has such high security and shielding in Chile. It would be interesting to know about his family and his ex-partners.
Also he has written extensively in Chile and about MJ. Those papers may not be around anymore,but perhaps somebody has saved up.
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“Nabokov says he is writing about a monster and there exists not a family more miserable than what he writes about.” -kaarin
If this is the case then it explains it. If he wrote it to show the misery and horror of this pervert’s life, then no one will want to follow his example. It is the message of the novel that really matters. But I’m still unwilling to read it – the book by Gutierrez was quite enough for me.
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VMJ,I do´t want to argue the case. I purpousfully did NOT see any of the films because I knew the FILMS would be SMUT.Nabokov says he is writing about a monster and there exists not a family more miserable than what he writes about.
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“doesn’t it tell us how corrupt the media is that they would hire a complete and PROVEN liar and slanderer and pay that person such a salary–one that many people can only make in an entire year ($25,000/mo). (It could be that the 83,000 figure is in different currency–Chilean pesos?). – aldebaranredstar”
It does. The controversy in the salary is cleared up by a more detailed article about NBC, Dateline and Gutierrez which is also posted here. The salary was $25,000 a month. That article also mentions 83,000 [pesos] as a starting price at which Gutierrez’s used book is sold on Amazon. Gutierrez is evidently very proud of high prices for his book. However it is not due to its quality, but solely due to the book being a rarity as it is banned in the US (evidently as child pornography).
The documents on the video tape fraud by Gutierrez and Dimond are in this post: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/09/17/be-careful-who-you-trust/
Michael Jackson sued Gutierrez over the non-existent tape in 1995 while the book was published in 1997. The defamation case was over in 1998 and the court sentence to pay $2,7 mln. covered Gutierrez’s fraud over the video tape as the suit was initially brought in connection with that only. As regards the book I think it was banned due to being child pornography.
P.S. I’ve changed MJ into Michael Jackson. Didn’t notice it in the letter, sorry.
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I am looking at the article you linked (on the MJHideOut website). Some of the comments suggest that others to send lots of spam, porno, etc to NBC website in response to their hiring VG as a sign they hate NBC. One of the posters says NBC just wants to f–k MJ over. Most posters are seeing through the BS and are for Michael–both here and in the letters in response to Marcelo Morales’ Letter.
BTW, thanks for changing the Letter–I am glad you did that.
The ‘MJ’ in the first line of the Letter is written out as ‘Michael Jackson.’ I just made the abbreviation to save myself some time, so if you can change that to Michael Jackson, it will be more in keeping with Marcelo’s Letter.
Thanks.
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Hi, again, VMJ, it would be great to get hold of the court transcripts from Michael’s suit against VG and the others regarding the fake videotape, if they are available. From your posts, there was the initial suit and some later ones from 95 to 98 (?).
Also it is very strange that he was able to make such good $$ starting in 2004 for NBC and later ABC and yet not have his wages garnished or confiscated. I wonder why he was protected??
Also doesn’t it tell us how corrupt the media is that they would hire a complete and PROVEN liar and slanderer and pay that person such a salary–one that many people can only make in an entire year ($25,000/mo). (It could be that the 83,000 figure is in different currency–Chilean pesos?).
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Aldebaranredstar, changing the post is no problem – you cannot imagine how many times I do the same after finding a hundred mistakes. Now your post has been corrected. Thank you for the correction, all of us want the Open letter to be as perfect as it can only be.
As to Gutierrez’s stories about people everything I’ve read about him is connected with scandals over accusing people of ped-lia, or “exposing” someone as gays or lesbians (though he is gay himself), or lawsuits brought against him, or people’s careers broken due to his lies. He loves to make money from bringing people down, even if they don’t deserve it and are totally innocent.
Up till now I have not encountered a single positive fact about him, except one – he uncovered some wrongdoing in the army. Probably then he was younger and still retained some grains of integrity which are now totally gone.
Did you pay attention to this article? http://mjhideout.com/forum/archive/t-32221.html
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“And forgive me Helena of dragging a great author into this blog,with the danger(though slight I hope) of anybody even comparing the 2”
Kaarin, there is nothing to apologize for – I am not going to defend a Russian solely because he is my countryman. Nabokov was from Russia but since he is now forever associated with Lolita I have never been able to bring myself to read anything by him (though I have this author in my library). The most I did was watching the film.
First, I don’t even want to know about his character’s sex feelings, emotions, etc. for a young girl and second, I lose all interest in a writer, artist, etc. the moment he gives me suspicion that something is not okay with him. And it all the more concerns the works of a genius (by the way this is why I didn’t initially accept Michael – before this research – due to all those suspicions).
And as regards Nabokov I think it is terribly irresponsible of a genius to write about pedophilia obsession. A talented writer will turn it into a powerful story which will haunt you and probably make you even sympathize with the man hit by such an obsession – and this will be the first step to accepting it.
A mediocre writer will not be able to do that much harm – you’ll through away his trash at the third page. But for a talented writer it is a must to be a responsible one. He bears responsibility for those whom he takes on the road with him. He simply has no right to take people to hell – even if he is hungry and needs money. I am sure that we will answer to God for what we do to others – whether we turn them away from the road to spiritual enlightment or walk together with them along this road.
By the way I think that Nabokov should have had something in his nature which made him write that novel. Sorry if I am mistaken.
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Hi, VMJ, thanks very much for posting the Open Letter written by Marcelo Morales.
I would like to change the last sentence of the translation, if that is still possible (sorry).
Here is the original translation :”The homosexual person is someone proper and respectable and I have nothing against that person, but to be a shit faggot like YOU I condemn openly and I [consider it an evil birth] that inundates society with evil, with falsity, hypocrisy and dishonesty. ”
So instead of that I prefer this translation:
“The homosexual person is someone proper and respectable and I have nothing against that person, but to be a shit faggot like YOU I condemn it openly, and I regard as a lowlife scum one who inundates society with evil, with falsity, hypocrisy and dishonesty.”
I was looking for a good translation of ‘mal nacido,’ which literally means ‘an evil birth’ but it is much more than that, someone who is very ill-bred, it can also be translated as a pig or swine (but that is unfair to pigs!!) and I think ‘lowlife scum’ does the trick!
Thank you!!
There is a comment on Marcelo’s letter in el Nortero that says that VG also smeared a ‘show woman’ called Marlen Olivari by saying she was a lesbian. According to the poster, VG followed this person and took photos of her in compromising situations and later interviewed a supposed lover of Marlen. She asks if someone will end up committing suicide from the lies of VG.
Thank god Michael was strong enough to keep going and be strong.
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And forgive me Helena of dragging a great author into this blog,with the danger(though slight I hope) of anybody even comparing the 2.Just saying that a subject can be dealt with on a high ,level. But not so by someone writing from his own heart mind and below..
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Sorry, and forgive me Helena, Nabokov is Russian. I had avague memory of that,but was not sure. Only after my post below did I look it up 1;st time on Wiki.And at the very end Humbert realizes that he has robbed Dolores AKA Lolita of her childhood.
I never bothered to see any movieis on this book,thought it could not be made.He wrote it betwee. 1948-1953.That book got lost when I left US.
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To go to another author with some p-filia. Nabokov wrote “Lolita”. When his wife was asked about it:.”We needed the money”. I have read the book when I was young and again in later years. The protagonist ,HumbertHumbert-(Nabokov had arrived in the US from Eastern Europe)describes the travels of himself and Lolita throgh out US., and there are a few descriptions of sex and the cuteness of 12yo Lolita.The latter is nothing remarkable, any mother,father or just any body can note the prettiness of a 12 yo girl.The description of the sexual encounters are few and some of them funny: It is good for the skin (if I recall). The most salient feature to me was the banality of America as he describes it, the flat relationships of people and finally the somewhat sad marriage and pregnancy of Lolita when he meets her later, a bright ,intelligent girl married to a laborer on their way to move to Alaska.Throughout their relationship Lolita is most uninterested in sex,at times she reads magazines when Humbert has intercourse with her.
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“I did not know about it and indeed it should be spread to the media. Can I share it on FB and Twitter?”
Solveig, absolutely! You shouldn’t even ask!
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Here is one more article which details the financial arrangements between Victor Gutierrez and NBC. Evidently Gutierrez was so happy to get the contract that he bragged to the newspaper SPECTACULOS that he was becoming the most high-paid Chilean journalist, would be paid $25,000 a month, was choosing between ABC and NBC, would live in a five-star hotel, would have two research journalists and a producer and would have a chance to use his book “Michael Jackson was my lover – the secret diary of Jordie Chandler” as a background for his work on NBC.
The article is dated January 2004, is computer translated but is quite understandable. The “millionaire” contract they are talking of is in pesos. The thread in the Hideout forum is called: “Victor Gutierrez contratado por la NBC para hundir a MJ” (which means “Victor Gutierrez hired by NBC to sink MJ”):
The Spanish original is here:
http://mjhideout.com/forum/archive/t-32221.html
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Thank you Helena for posting this brilliant article. I did not know about it and indeed it should be spread to the media. Can I share it on FB and Twitter?
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Claudia it is great to have a Chilean on board even if you no longer live in Chile.You must
know some people there though ,and through them we could get more info re your infamous compatriot.
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Another article is attributed to Associated press and says that as soon as the Arvizo allegations became known Gutierrez demanded that Michael Jackson should pay him $6mln. instead of him paying $2,7 to MJ following the court order.
Gutierrez wanted a compensation for Michael “questioning his book”. The article says that the book contains the “testimonies of 16 abused children”. I’ve read the book and must tell you that there is not a single testimony of any child there – what a grandiose lie! All the book has are highly exaggerated stories by Adrian McManus and some bodyguards.
Exaggeration would not be even the right word for it – there is simply no shred of truth in those stories. For example, Adrian McManus (MJ’s personal maid at the time) is described as frantically hiding some stained sheets, underwear and other “incriminating” evidence when the police arrived to search Neverland in 1993, and all of it would sound genuine enough if it were not for one small detail – Adrian McManus was simply not present in Neverland during the initial search. She took a day-off exactly on that day and confirmed this fact during her testimony at the 2005 trial.
This is the kind of mega lies Gutierrez tells! We never thought anything like that to be ever possible – there is simply nothing to tell, but this nothing is nevertheless described in most vivid detail!
We also find out from the Spanish article that when Gutierrez fled from the US (in order not to pay Jackson) he accused of pedophilia some politician(s) in his own country. The case described here must be the one when the politician sued Gutirrez and Gutierrez lost and didn’t pay again which is his usual practice. We know of it from the Open Letter by Marcelo Morales.
Here is the article in Google translation:
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This great article needs to be spread to as many western media as possible.
“The strange lifestyle and other matters that plagued his life..” is still the mantra in many
western publications.Often they do not take any stand re the veracity if varous claims, and many are “neutral” not saying anything ,but repeating the mantra.And thank you all who brought this out.Aldebaranredstar,VMJ and others.
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Here is the Google translation of one of the texts from the Spanish Hideout forum. It gives the timeline for some of Gutierrez’s “exploits” against Jackson. The information comes from the Chilean sources and is in line with everything else we’ve heard about Gutierrez by now.
Let me note that Gutierrez was allowed to work for NBC and still not pay the money he owed to Michael Jackson under an earlier US court order. Gutierrez said that he had 10 years to pay the money after filing for bankruptcy. The order to pay $2,7mln. was made in 1998, so when Gutierrez worked for NBC during the 2005 trial at least some of his money should have gone to Michael Jackson as payment of the fine. However none did. Why I wonder?
This article says that he was paid $25,000 a month, however another comment claimed that the salary was $83,000, so over here there is some controversy.
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Susanne, thank you for your kind words but I absolutely cannot take credit for it. This brilliant letter was written by Marcelo Morales and translated by Aldeberan.
However I would like to add more information to it later when some more texts are translated and we put everything together. There was a time when I spent weeks (if not months) at the Spanish Hideout forum and Google translated all posts and comments on Gutierrez for several years. Unfortunately many links were not working and the language was a great barrier too. But I am still hopeful to fish something out of the materials collected.
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Great post, Helena. This must be brought to everyone’s attention. As well as the fact that there must have been a close cooperation between VG and Evan Chandler (and perhaps his lawyer Barry Rothman).
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Aldebaran, since you asked for the Spanish of the reader’s comment about Victor Gutierrez and the fact that “he was paid to sink Michael Jackson”, here is the original of the comment from http://elreflejo.cl/2009/07/08/carta-abierta-al-periodista-victor-gutierrez/:
The Google translation says:
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Claudia, welcome to the blog. The letter was written three years ago but I could not post it earlier as it is difficult to understand a computer translation from Spanish. Now that Aldebaranredstar helped us so much the letter can be posted at last and I hope will be taken further for all MJ’s supporters to know it. If you have a chance please help us with more translations about VG (if you cannot I’ll perfectly understand too).
My huge thanks to Alderanredstar again!
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Thank you for bringing this letter to my attention. I’m Chilean, but I don’t live there any more so I didn’t know about this until I read your blog.
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