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AEG – Jacksons trial DAY 32. KAI CHASE’S HEART-WRENCHING TESTIMONY

June 19, 2013

UPDATED AND CORRECTED

Day 32 of the trial was very special again and this is why we need a summary of it. On this day Michael Jackson’s personal chef Kai Chase testified and spoke about Michael’s family life, what she saw and thought of Dr. Murray and the meeting arranged by AEG in Michael’s home at the beginning of June.

The ABC7 Court News tweets say about Day 32 of the trial, Tuesday June 18, 2013:

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Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 32 of Jackson family vs AEG trial to get underway momentarily.

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Jacksons attorneys told the court yesterday that they are calling today Kai Chase, MJ’s personal chef.

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We were told Chase will detail MJ’s behavior after Dr. Murray was retained. She worked in Apr/09, was off in May and came back in June/09.

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Chase testified in the criminal trial of Dr. Conrad Murray. The attorneys expect to conclude her questioning today.

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Attorneys are discussing with judge regarding Dr. Finkelstein’s deposition testimony. Jury not in the courtroom yet.

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We’ll bring you all the details of Chase’s testimony as soon as we can. Remember, judge doesn’t allow live tweets from the courtroom.

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Only Katherine Jackson is present in court today. She’s wearing bright royal jacket over a geometric full length dress in tones of blue.

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Court session has not started yet. Jackson’s attorney, Brian Panish, asked to speak with the judge in private.

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Today is jurors 4 and 5 birthday!!!! Judge Yvette Palazuelos just wished them happy birthday! Kai Chase taking the stand now.

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On the stand is Kai Chase, MJ’s personal chef. Attorney Deborah Chang is doing the questioning.

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Chase said she’s personal chef for the past 17 years. She currently works for Katherine Jackson and MJ’s children Prince, Paris and Blanket.

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Chase worked for MJ while he was preparing for tour. She began working for him end of March, was let go in May and brought back in June 09.

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Chase started culinary profession in a small culinary school, then worked as writer for Urban network magazine.

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Chase got her masters degree at Le Cordon Bleu Culinary Academy in Paris. She said she comes from family of artists, culinary is her art.

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Chase said famous chef Julia Child graduated from Le Cordon Bleu.

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After graduating, Chase opened her own catering company. She was always involved in the entertainment business.

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My godfather was Redd Foxx, Chase said.

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Chase Clientele: President Barack Obama, Bernie Mack, Steve Harvey, John Sally, Maxine Waters, worked with Wolfgang Puck, Pamela Anderson

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Chase worked in 2007 in an inauguration event for president Obama. “I got the gig because… I’m good,” Chase laughed.

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Chase said Obama was pleased to see an young, African American woman doing well.

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Chase explained who Wolfgang Puck is, very famous chef who cooks at the Oscars and has TV shows.

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Chang: Are you trained as nutritionist?

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Chase: No, I’m not

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Chase said she studied nutrition of foods, but does not have training as nutritionist.

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Chase recalled she received call from company called Culinary Staffing. The client is husband, wife, two kids, husband was a businessman.

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Chase was asked to send the resume in. She said she got call back within the hour saying client was very impressed with her qualifications.

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There was a meeting set up at Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf at the Grove in LA. Chase met with Michael Amir, who interviewed her extensively.

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When he handed me the card, whoa! Chase testified.

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Chase asked who the client was and Amir showed her MJ’s company business card.

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Chang: Where you excited?

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Chase: Yes, I was

From this moment on Chase’s testimony is becoming engrossing. She describes Michael’s family life and the way he was raising his children, and this made me realize that of all families in the world his was one of the super normal and the greatest families of all.

Those who know Michael only from the caricature the media painted of him, will open up a totally new world for themselves and will see from the way Michael raised his children what chances we are missing in our parenting. When they were eating food from different parts of the world they were studying the culture of those people! And each day of the week was devoted to something special – reading, crafts and art, or classical movies and writing about them! And no sweets and no television!

How could he manage to make them so disciplined and they still adored him and rushed to him like lightening the moment he opened the door? I am totally awed:

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The second meeting happened at the Carolwood house. Michael Jackson was not present, the meeting was with MJ’s children, Chase explained.

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Chase said Prince was 12 years old, Paris was about to turn 11 and Blanket was 9.

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They were talking over each other, they very excited to meet me, Chase said. “They wanted to make sure I knew how to cook healthy food”

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Chase recalls the kids saying daddy likes apricots, we like fruits, Blanket likes mango.

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It felt like we were developing an immediate bond, Chase explained. “It was a beautiful beginning.”

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Chase said she began working the very next day, end of March, beginning of May [April].

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Chase arrived 8-8:30 am, got kids ready for school, cooked breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks, clean up, kept pantry stocked, grocery shopped

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Chase’s schedule started with 7 days a weeks, eventually became 6 days a week, with Sundays off.

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Chase said first MJ encounter they kind of had the introduction, like bumped into each other. Kind of like hey, how are you?

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That was the first introduction, after that it blossomed into a boss/friend relationship, Chase described.

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Chase said MJ was very hands on into his children’s life/nutrition. “He wanted to get to know the woman who was feeding his children.”

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The relationship between MJ and his kids was very loving, they were together a lot, Chase said.

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Chase: His children were the love of his life, his children meant everything to him.

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MJ had lunch with his children privately, in beautifully set table. “His children meant the world to him,” Chase testified.

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Chase said the house was very warm, good feeling, loving. It was a beautiful place, good feeling, music playing, fireplace on, she described

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Chase said she did not eat the meals with MJ and kids because Michael liked the meal with his children to be private bonding time.

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Chase said that when they ate food from other parts of the world they would study a bit about the culture of the place they were eating.

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Chase would write the menu on chalkboard of what the meal was for the day, so kids could understand the food they were eating.

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Chase said the children were homeschooled from Monday to Friday, so Mr. Jackson liked to keep things creative.

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Chase gave as example Monday was reading day, Tuesday was arts and crafts, Wednesday was watching classic movie then writing about it.

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Chase said the kids learned math, science, foreign language. They had a teacher come in, they were constantly being educated.

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He took great pride helping children develop foreign language and art, Chase testified. “The children weren’t allowed to watch television”

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Chase said she stayed a lot in the kitchen, but since it was an open floor plan, she got to interact with the children.

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I’d teach them about food and technique, they’d teach me games, Chase recalled.

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Chase got to see the interaction of MJ with the children. She said it was a family atmosphere.

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Chase described how the children reacted when MJ arrived at the house.

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Chase: Seeing those children take off like lightening, grab him by the ankle, by the arms, it brings tears to my eyes, so much love there

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MJ was disciplinary when needed, Chase said. When they had school, they had to be in bed by certain time; respected and obeyed their father

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Chang: Were they allowed to eat sweets whenever they wanted?

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Chase: No! That was a big no, no

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Sweets were only dictated when he (MJ) said, Chase explained.

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Chase asked MJ if she could do comfort food Saturday, serving not-so-healthy food like fried chicken.

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MJ gave her the thumbs up, she said. It was a way to break the monotony of always eating healthy.

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Chase said Michael had a very giving spirit, loving nature spirit. The chef testified MJ was always concerned on how to give back.

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Chase described seeing Paris going through her wardrobe and getting clothes she didn’t want to wear anymore.

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Paris would sew the clothes into new pieces, made little skirts out of her pants, put them in a box and ship em overseas, Chase said.

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Chase testified the house had animals: dog, bird (who whistled for pretty women) 2 cats, rabbit, Prince had a rat he walked around the house

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Chase said the kids were responsible and helped with the animals.

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Chase described going with Paris at night into the yard to look for a mom and baby snail. Jackson caught them on the way back.

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At that point I knew I was going get fired, Chase recalled, but said MJ was fine with it.

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Paris and Chase put the snails in a jar, made a little snail farm, put in the kitchen. She said she put Blanket’s drawings on the fridge.

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Chase testified MJ’s relationship with kids was warm, loving. “These are my babies,” Chase said MJ would say. “We played games, monopoly.”

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Chang: Did MJ have a good sense of humor?

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Chase: Yes, he was a practical joker

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I made it into a home there, Chase said about putting children’s art in the kitchen. “The love was already there.”

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On chalkboard, there’s a message Paris wrote:

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I love daddy! Smile, it’s for free

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Chase didn’t recall if it was written the day MJ died

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Chase explained she did a lot of juicing for him with beats, organic vegetable, lots of lean protein, vegetable.

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MJ ate chicken, fish and turkey, no pork or beef. Chase said MJ liked Mexican food, she did vegan ground beef tacos, one of his favorites.

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Paris celebrated her 11th birthday in beginning on April. Chase said MJ told the children they could eat anything they wanted that day.

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Paris chose to decorate party with everything Michael Jackson. They had cheese pizza, hot wings, banana split, Chase said.

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MJ then took his children to the backyard where he had this Cirque du Soleil type of performance for her.

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They sat there and watched, Chase said. “And I cried.”

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That was last birthday she had with her father. Chase said Paris has not had birthday party since, she doesn’t want to celebrate it anymore

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Chase said MJ was very excited about what was happening, was excited to have his children see him perform.

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Chase said that MJ would come to the kitchen dressed sharply, black Levi’s pants, with Tom Ford cologne.

Kai Chase worked in Michael’s home since the end of March until May when she was fired due to the “changes in management”.  May 2009 was indeed the period of changes in Michael’s management – I think it was on May 5th that AEG received an official letter from Michael saying that Tohme was fired and his powers of attorney were revoked.

At the end of May Michael also confided in his fans that he never wanted to do 50 shows and there was a big hue and cry over it in the press. Randy Phillips officially declared that this was not true. AEG evidently scolded Michael for his words, tightened security around him and took measures to stop him from communicating with his fans.

Michael must have felt extremely hurt and was seeking refuge at the Culver Studios where they were shooting videos at the time. When the rehearsals began at the Forum on June 1 Michael defied AEG’s schedule and missed several rehearsals.

Though rehearsals were none of AEG’s business as they fully admit it now, those several missed rehearsals resulted in a riot meeting at the beginning of June. Its official agenda was nutrition and this was partially true. Nutrion was indeed a grave problem at that moment. No one was taking care of Michael then – the chef Kai Chase was fired, Grace Rwaramba who was very protective of Michael was fired too, and he himself was busy training and doing a hundred other things – so eating was not an issue. The problem with nutrition was so grave that when the chef returned the fridge was bare. She said that she had no idea what they had been eating.

When Chase came back in June Michael told her they were making him work so hard that they were killing him. It could be a figure of speech of course but it does show that the pressure he had to live under was inhuman:

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Prince actually told me his daddy wanted me to go to London for the tour, Chase testified.

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Kids’ nanny was Grace Rwaramba. Chase described her very warm and loving. “This is the mother that they knew, had been with them since birth”

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I was told she was let go, Chase said. Chang asked if AEG had fired Rwaramba, but defendant’s attorney objected saying it was hearsay.

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I was let go in beginning of May by Michael Amir, Chase said. Chase said she was told there had been a change in management.

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Chase argued her rate is negotiable. “I was feeding Mr. Jackson and his children, my rate is negotiable, you have to let me go to London.”

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Chase said she was told in person ‘let me see what I can do’ and next day she got call saying don’t need to come in, you’re fired.

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I pleaded with him Chase said. She didn’t get to say goodbye to MJ or his kids, didn’t have any discussions with MJ about salary/firing.

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The pay was very sketchy, Chase said, sometimes she was paid on time, sometimes not paid at all.

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Chase said she didn’t believe MJ knew she was fired because she said she believes if MJ fired her it would’ve happen that way.

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When I came back in June, the kids and Mr. Jackson wanted me to come back, Chase explained.

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Chase said MJ went to her and asked where had she gone. “I need you to keep me and my children healthy,” Chase testified MJ told her.

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I’m working hard, they are killing me, I need your help, Chase said MJ told her.

After a month’s break Michael looked to Kai Chase very different from his former self  – he was weak, undernourished, fatigued and overworked. When she returned to work on June 2nd the difference was obvious. In April the doctor was rarely around, but in June she saw him almost every day. The doctor never discussed the matters of nutrion with her.

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Chase never saw the kids or MJ in May. In the beginning of June, Chase said she received a call from Michael Amir asking her to come back.

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The energy in the house was not the same, Chase said. In April Chase said MJ was strong, healthy, active. “He looked good” Chase recalled

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Chase said she asked to get half of her salary upfront. “I was afraid I wasn’t going to get paid,” Chase explained.

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Chase said she wrote an email about it to make sure everyone was on the same page.

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Chang: Did you decide to come back because you understood AEG Live would be covering you salary?

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Chase: Yes

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Chang: Did you notice any difference in MJ?

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Chase: Yes, I noticed that Mr Jackson looked very different

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Chase returned to work on June 2nd.

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He appeared very weak, he looked very much thinner, undernourished, he didn’t look as well as I had seen him, Chase testified.

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Chase said MJ actually told her ‘I need you to keep me and my children heathy.’

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It was an obvious difference, concerned me greatly.

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I looked at him with great concern… I need you to keep me and my children healthy, MJ told Chase.

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I thought he was being overworked, over rehearsed, Chase recalled.

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Chase said MJ asked if she had his juices ready. They began talking about different juices she would make him.

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Chase recalled that when she arrived at the house, the pantry was bare. One side there was Fiji water.

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Refrigerator was bare! There was Coca Cola, red bulls and Starbucks coffee drinks, Chase said.

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Chase then went to Whole Foods to buy organic food for the house. She explained While Foods has a card for chefs who have personal clients.

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The credit card was declined. I had no choice but to use my own to pay for food to feed him and his family, Chase said.

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This was not the first time credit card was denied, Chase said, and sometimes she’d have to leave the groceries behind or pay for it herself

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Mr. Jackson, with his rehearsals and his schedule, I could see it was taking a toll on him, Chase opined.

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Chase described when she observed MJ’s son Prince helping Michael go up the stairs once.

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For a 12 year old, trying to carry his father, it saddened me, Chase recalled.

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Chase: I knew I had to get this man as healthy as possible, but I didn’t know why he was deteriorating

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Chase said she spoke with her parents about her concerns, but didn’t know who she could take to at the house about it.

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The children were excited to see Chase rehired, the chef said. “The day I came back, they greeted me at the door.”

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Paris created a shoebox called “the box of happiness.”

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Note from Paris Jackson: Dear Kai,Thank you for these beautiful gifts you have us.

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Note cont’d: Oh, and I’m writing this letter with the magic wand pen you gave me. I hope you like the presents & picture.

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Note cont’d: And thank you for the presents for P.B. & Daddy, they like them! Lots of love, Paris Jackson

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Chase went to Disneyland on her first day off and brought them presents. Paris was thanking Chase for it.

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Chase recalled one time seeing Travis Payne and MJ rehearsing at the house

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MJ did eat, but his portions were getting smaller, Chase said.

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Chase first met Dr. Murray in the first few weeks of April. “He introduced himself to me as Michael’s personal physician,” Chase explained.

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I saw him more daily in June, Chase explained, saying Dr. Murray wasn’t around as much in April, never saw him bring anything to the house

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Majority of the times I’d see Dr. Murray there in the morning, Chase testified. She assumed Dr. Murray had spent the night.

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Dr. Murray never discussed MJ’s nutrition with Chase. “I thought it was quite strange a doctor not checking MJ’s eating habits.”

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I asked him a couple of times, but his answer was you can fix him anything, Chase said about conversation with Dr. Murray.

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In June, Chase remembers seeing Dr. Murray at the house in the mornings.

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My room was the kitchen, there was no reason for me to go upstairs, Chase explained about not going to the upper floor of the house.

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I saw Dr. Murray bring oxygen tanks down from upstairs into the kitchen, Chase recalled.

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Chase: Sometimes I saw them lined-up in the security booth with a sign saying “fill up every Friday.”

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Yes, I was concerned, Che testified. “I had no idea what they had been used for, but I never asked.”

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Chase: I felt it was strange to see the doctor there but he was slowly deteriorating; I didn’t understand it.

The story that comes next is the crucial one in Chase’s testimony. It is about the meeting  held in Michael Jackson’s home.

Up till now this early June meeting has been surrounded with almost complete silence. After a barrage of Panish’s questions Randy Phillips more or less admitted that there was a meeting at the beginning of June but in his view it was wholly ‘about nutrition’.

Paul Gongaware said he remembered one meeting with Dr. Murray in Michael’s home in early June, but it was also about ‘taking care of Michael’s needs, his diet and his stamina’. However as Gongaware’s testimony progressed he had to admit that the meeting was called because of missed rehearsals and Kenny Ortega being concerned about it.

The atmosphere of the meeting was tense, Michael looked frightened even before the meeting, wore a mask (probably to hide his face behind it) and several layers of clothing.  They were “very firm with him” and the discussion was so heated that Chase remembers that the usually polite Michael walked out of the room leaving them behind.

Some time later Conrad Murray stormed out of the room too looking very angry and upset and saying that “he can’t take this shit”. Randy Phillips, Paul Gongaware, Kenny Ortega and Frank Dileo stayed behind and kept talking even when Michael and Murray left. When Kai Chase left at around 6pm they were still there.

The next day Michael was frightened and thoughtful, and looked to Kai Chase like the weight of the world was on his shoulder.

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Chase said there was a meeting at the house with Paul Gongaware , Randy Phillips, Dr. Murray and MJ, former manager Frank DiLeo.

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Mr. Jackson asked me to fix snacks since he had guests coming over, Chase said. Meeting was around the second week of June.

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Chase said the meeting was at the parlor. She went in and out serving beverages, snacks.

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Mr. Jackson was covered-up, Chase said. MJ was wearing a surgical mask and several layers of clothing, sweatshirt.

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Chase: I observed that he looked scared, he looked scared and frightened may be about this meeting would entail

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I immediately heard loud crash, Chase said. MJ had a very expensive vase sitting behind where he will sit.

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Chase: The vase crashed. It was rather large so it was loud. Myself and one of the housekeepers ran into the room to pick up the pieces.

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I was able to hear some of the conversation, Chase said. “They were very firm with him.”

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Everyone was talking over each other, Chase recalled hearing. “MJ left the meeting first, the gentlemen stayed,” Chase said.

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Dr. Murray left second, came through the kitchen to leave. “He was upset,” Chase said.

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He said “I can’t take this s**t,” Chase said Dr. Murray told her, storming out of the house.

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Chase said others stayed in the parlor. She left around 6 pm, shortly after Dr. Murray, and the men were still there in the meeting.

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Chase said MJ’s reaction afterwords: “He was thinking, the weight of the world on his shoulder, he was frightened, scared.”

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MJ’s demeanor concerned me greatly, Chase recalled.

This was the first riot meeting AEG arranged for Michael Jackson in June. To see how AEG is presenting their side of the story we need to look up the testimonies of the two AEG participants in the meeting – Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware.

Randy Phillips presents the meeting as nothing much. If you listen to him you can’t even understand why they arranged that meeting at all. On the one hand it was about nutrition, and on the other hand there was nothing there raising concern for Michael’s health:

Q. What meeting was the vase broken at?

A. I don’t remember. It was one of the production meetings, probably in — sometime in either May or early June.

Q. Okay. This is a meeting at Mr. Jackson’s home?

A. Yes, in the living room — in the living room.

Q. And at that meeting, who was present when the vase was broken?

A. Frank Dileo, Paul Gongaware, myself – I’m not sure who else was in that meeting.

Q. Who broke the vase, if you know?

A. I — I honestly don’t know. I think it might have been Frank.

At another point of his testimony we find that Randy Phillips met Dr. Murray at that meeting for the first time.  It was probably him who called the meeting but he does not remember. He was concerned about Michael’s weight loss and Kenny Ortega was all about rehearsals. The meeting was very positive, Michael was present throughout the meeting and nothing out of ordinary took place there:

Q. When did you first meet Dr. Conrad Murray?
A. Sometime in June. I — I’m not sure if it was the first or second week of June.
Q. Where did you meet Dr. Conrad Murray for the first time?
A. The first time I met Dr. Murray, in the living room of Michael Jackson’s house on Carolwood Drive.
..Q. All right. So the first time you met or ever spoke with Dr. Conrad Murray was at Mr. Jackson’s home on Carolwood Drive?
A. That is correct.
Q. And do you have an understanding as to how this meeting came to be?
A. I’m not sure who arranged the meeting. I think it was at the behest of Kenny Ortega.
Q. But you’re just not sure?
A. I’m not sure.
Q. Did you call the meeting?
A. It’s possible. I just don’t remember.
Q. And did you have an understanding as to what this meeting was to be about?
A. It was about Michael’s weight and nutrition, and, also, exactly what Dr. Murray was going to do for Michael when they were over in London in terms of keeping him healthy and his stamina up and stuff like that.
Q. Stamina, weight, nutrition. And there was a lot of back and forth about this last week. So — and his health generally, is that correct?
A. That is correct. I mean, nutrition is part of your health, yes.
Q. Was there any specific health concern other than stamina, nutrition and weight that you recall being the subject of this meeting?
A. No.
…Q. And who was at this meeting, if you can recall?
A. I remember it was Paul Gongaware, Kenny Ortega, Frank Dileo, me, Dr. Murray and Michael Jackson.
Q. So this meeting where you’re discussing stamina, health, weight, that’s a meeting that Mr. Jackson was at?
A. Yes.
Q. Was he at all of the meeting, or did he come in for a portion of it, or was —
A. No, he was there the whole time.
Q. He was there the whole time?
A. Uh-huh.
Q. And there was never a portion, at least that you can recall, where Mr. Jackson wasn’t there, correct? Did that ever happen?
A. No.
Q. And in this meeting, can you recall at all as we sit here today what the impetus for this meeting was? Was there some concern that had been raised?
A. Well, I — I was concerned about Michael’s weight personally. Kenny — I believe Kenny needed him
to come to rehearsals more often. Things like that.
…Q. And did you have an understanding at this period in time when you first met Dr. Conrad Murray as to why he was at the meeting?
A. Because he was Michael’s personal physician.
…Q. At this meeting, did you — did you speak at this meeting?
A. Yeah, yes.
Q. Did you speak with Dr. Conrad Murray at the meeting?
A. Yes.
Q. Can you remember what you discussed with Dr. Conrad Murray?
A. Just about Michael’s controlling his weight so he wasn’t losing too much weight while he was
rehearsing.
Q. Did you discuss anything else with Dr. Conrad Murray that you can recall?
A. No. I did a lot of listening, but that’s — that was my only agenda for the meeting. Kenny’s was about rehearsals.
Q. And when you talked to Dr. Conrad Murray about this weight issue, Michael Jackson was present?
A. Yes.
Q. Can you recall him saying anything?
A. Oh, yes.
Q. What do you recall him saying?
A. Michael said that he always had this problem keeping on weight his whole life, that’s why he was always thin, and that when he performs on a concert, he’ll sometimes lose as much as two to four pounds — his words, two to four pounds a performance, and that’s why he needed Conrad Murray there, to deal with his nutrition and stuff like that.
….Q. So this conversation you were having, there was never a point where Mr. Jackson wasn’t there?
A. No.
Q. And do you remember anything else that Mr. Jackson said at this meeting?
A. He — he agreed with Conrad about these — these high-nutrient shakes and how important they were for him. And he usually went back to the hotel or the house, in this case, and would eat after the show and try to — and put back the weight, but that he had a high metabolism and he burned through calories very quickly.
Q. Did Dr. Conrad Murray indicate to you anything else that he was doing for Mr. Jackson at that time?
A. No. At that meeting, I don’t know who brought it up, but they said — either Michael or Dr. Murray said that Michael was also working out and working on his stamina with Lou Ferrigno.
…Q. Was there anything that you wanted to ask Dr. Conrad Murray about Mr. Jackson’s health that you
didn’t ask because you thought it was inappropriate?
A. No.
Q. So there was nothing that you were thinking about at this point in time that you wanted to ask but
you didn’t?
A. No. Kenny was concerned about the rehearsal schedule, and I was concerned that Michael wasn’t — might have been losing weight.
….Q. Do you remember whether this was a positive or a negative meeting?
A. It was a — it was a very positive meeting.
Q. Was it contentious?
A. No.
Q. As you sit here today, can you recall anything out of the ordinary that happened at that meeting?
A. No.

The same early June meeting was discussed with Paul Gongaware. He said that this was the only meeting he remembered with Dr. Murray.

Initially he said that it was about Michael’s needs. Then he recalled that it was about Michael missing rehearsals. And then he recalled the additional details that all in all they had five to ten (!) meetings in Michael’s home in June alone. Panish even wondered whether they arranged meetings in Michael’s home every two days in June.

A big surprise is also awaiting us as regards the reason for the early June meeting. It could have been an incident when Michael was to rehearse with Travis Payne but was found watching some videos instead – and this was evidently ‘exposed’ by them  as a terrible crime.

The timing for it is a suitable one. During that period Michael was making videos at Culver studios so it was natural for him to watch the footage they made there. But for Randy Phillips the only acceptable way of behavior was rehearsals, so we can imagine what yelling he arranged for Michael when he heard of his ‘crime’. No wonder Michael looked frightened and deep in thought the next day.

After two days of testifying Gongaware admitted that there were 5 to 10 meetings in Michael’s home in June 2009:

Q. So tell us about how many meetings you were there then?

A. I don’t remember how many.

Q. Okay. Tell us how many Mr. Jackson was there at?

A. Every meeting I was at in June, Mr. Jackson was there.

Q. Was it more than five?

A. Might have been.

Q. More than ten?

A. Probably not.

Q. So somewhere between five and ten meetings you were at Mr. Jackson’s house in June now, is that right?

A. Somewhere in there.

Q. Okay. Tell us who was at the other four meetings that we haven’t discussed that you now recall?

A. I don’t remember specifically the meetings, but every meeting I was at at the house, Michael was there, most of them, Frank Dileo was there, Kenny was at most of them, Randy was at most of them. That’s what I remember.

Q. So Randy Phillips was at five to ten meetings with you in June at Mr. Jackson’s house, correct?

A. Somewhere around there, yeah.

Q. Okay. And Mr. Ortega was at five to ten meetings with you at Mr. Jackson’s house, right?

A. Somewhere around there, yeah.

Q. And so then you were pretty much going to a meeting every day or two at Mr. Jackson’s house, then?

A. No.

But two days before that Gongaware did not remember that many meetings in June. At that moment he could remember only two meetings in Michael’s house – the one when the contract was signed and the other one which was attended by Conrad Murray:

Q Do you know whether Dr. Murray ever broke a vase in any meeting you were at at the Carolwood home?

A I was only in one meeting with Dr. Murray at the Carolwood home, and I don’t recall a vase being broken.

Q What was the date of that meeting?
A It was sometime in June. I think it was in early June.

…Q You just said the meeting was in early June I’m just trying to understand what you mean when you say “early June” does that mean it’s either from June 1st anytime up to June 15th?
A Or thereabouts.
Q Now, sir, that meeting when you were there in early June, or thereabouts, how many people were present?
A You’re talking about the meeting with Dr. Murray?

Q I’m talking about the meeting you just told us that was in early June, or thereabouts.

A The meeting that Dr. Murray was at — there were — sir, there were several meetings in that time period. I don’t recall specifically what you — which one you mean.
Q Well, you just told me you can only remember one meeting. Do you now remember more meetings?
A I remember one meeting with Dr. Murray.
Q Well, one with Dr. Murray and how many other meetings do you remember being at at the Carolwood home?
A I don’t remember how many there were.

Q So, sir, as you sit here today, as the person in charge of this tour, you can’t give us any estimate of how many meetings you attended at Michael Jackson’s home, correct?
A That’s right.

…Q Okay. So the only meeting you recall is the one with Conrad Murray; is that right?
A Well, I recall there were other meetings, but I do recall the Conrad Murray meeting, yes.
Q Tell us — list for me all the other meetings that you recall attending at Mr. Jackson’s home.
A Well, there was a meeting when he signed the contract. That was at Carolwood.

Q Okay. That’s January 28th. Let’s put that aside. Okay?
A Right.

…Q Other than the meeting with Dr. Murray and other than the meeting where the contract was signed, can you remember any other meeting at Mr. Jackson’s home?

A I remember that there were others, but I don’t recall specifically any of those meetings right now.
Q Okay. So now this meeting with Dr. Murray that you — the only one you recall other than the contract was in early June or thereabout, right? Did I get that right?
A Yes, sir.

Q Okay. And who was present at that meeting?
A Kenny was there, Randy, Frank Dileo, Dr. Murray, Michael. I think that’s it.
Q How long did the meeting last, sir?
A Might have been an hour.

Q Was the meeting in the daytime or the nighttime?
A It was in the daytime.
Q Okay. When you say “daytime,” what do you mean?
A It was still light out.
Q Okay. Well, in the month of June — I don’t — let me withdraw that. Was it still light when you left the meeting?
A Yes.

Same as Randy Phillips Gongaware describes the meeting in a way that it is almost impossible to understand what it was about. But then we learn that the meeting was pushed by Kenny Ortega and was somehow connected with Michael watching videos instead of rehearsing. Gongaware thinks that the meeting was positive:

Q Now, sir, at that meeting, was it being discussed that part of Dr. Murray’s job was to make sure Michael was okay in getting to the rehearsals?
A No, I don’t think it was about getting him to rehearsals. I think that the meeting was about making sure Michael Jackson and Dr. Murray had everything they needed to care for Michael.
Q Okay. Did you ever have a meeting where you discussed Michael Jackson’s health at his home, sir?
A That’s the same meeting.
Q So is that a “yes”?
A I don’t know if we discussed his health. We certainly discussed his well being and what he would need.
Q Okay. My question to you, sir, specifically, did you ever have a meeting at Michael Jackson’s house where Michael Jackson’s health was discussed, yes or no?
A Well, I don’t know what you’re talking about, “health.” I’m not sure I understand that part of it. But yes, we did talk about health-related issues.
Q Okay. Well, the meeting wasn’t about missing rehearsals, was it, sir?
A I don’t remember that part of it. It was more of a general meeting about what Dr. Murray would need, if he would need anything, and general situation.
Q Okay. Well, let’s — let’s go to the — your testimony on January 28, 2011. I’m sorry. Let me rephrase that. Did you tell the truth when you testified in the criminal trial on September 28th, 2011, sir?

A. Yes.

(reading:)

Q            The meeting that was scheduled that you attended in early June of 2009, you have testified that some of the topics that were involved there, but that meeting was actually pushed by Kenny Ortega, wasn’t it?
A             Kenny was the one who asked for the meeting, yes.
Q            And Kenny’s concerns were that at the time Michael Jackson was missing rehearsal? That was one of his concerns?    
A             Yes.    
Q            Well, was that a topic of conversation at the early June meeting at Carolwood?
A             I don’t recall that. I think the early June meeting was a positive meeting and Michael was very positive about it.

Panish: Okay. Now, Mr. Gongaware, Mr. Ortega expressed to you and others concerns about Mr. Jackson missing rehearsal, correct?

A He did.
Q And Mr. Jackson — the only meeting that you went to where Dr. Murray was there, Mr. Jackson wasn’t there the whole meeting, was he?
A I believe he was.
Q Pardon me?
A I believe he was.
Q Sir, you had a meeting, the only meeting you remember with Dr. Murray, and Mr. Jackson’s health was discussed at that meeting, wasn’t it, sir?
A Health issues were.
Q And — and during that meeting, you knew that Mr. Ortega had already expressed concerns about Mr. Jackson missing rehearsals, correct?
A Yes.

Q And during that meeting, it was your belief and understanding that Mr. Jackson was at home practicing with Travis Payne, isn’t that true?
A During what time?
Q At the time that that meeting occurred, was it your understanding that Mr. Jackson had been at home practicing with Travis Payne?
A I don’t recall that.
Q Okay. Well, let me show you, sir, a document that I previously showed you, which if I approach you, I’ll see if I can get it for you, which is your statement to the police. You met with the police, didn’t you, sir?
A Yes, I did.
And was your attorney, Mr. Putnam, present there?
A Yes.
Q (reading)  “Gongaware did attend a meeting at the Carolwood residence a couple of weeks prior to June 20th.” Does that refresh your recollection, sir?
A Not sure what they’re talking about, but I was at meetings then.
Q Okay.  (continues reading)  “Gongaware was not sure of all present, but believed Randy Phillips, Frank Dileo were there. Michael Jackson and Conrad Murray were present.” Is that the meeting that you referred to with Dr Murray — the only meeting that you remember with Dr Murray?
A Right.
Q And then it says “the — the topic of the meeting was Jackson’s overall health.” Did I read that right, sir?

A Yes.
Q That’s what you were discussing, Mr. Jackson’s health, correct?
A Issues — I think it’s right there, as well — with diet, stamina, and so forth, yes.
Q This is what you told the police, sir?
A Yes.
Q And then it said Jackson had missed a rehearsal and was thought to be dancing at home.  Do you remember me asking you that, sir?
A Yes — but you were asking if it was at this meeting, and I don’t recall it being at this meeting.
Q You told the police it was at this meeting, sir?
A No. I think the police have it wrong here.
Q Okay. So the police officer made a mistake?
A I don’t recall the meeting where Michael was dancing at home and — being the same day as the health meeting.
Q And then it says “however, they discovered he was only watching video.” Did I read that right, sir?
A Yes.
Q Did you learn that Mr. Jackson wasn’t dancing at home, but he was only watching video?
A I think there was an occasion when that was the case, yes.

So if the police statement is correct Michael missed some rehearsal(s) and watched the video instead, and probably explained it by his tiredness or lack of sleep.  Mind you that attending rehearsals was none of his obligations and he did not have to explain himself to anyone at all.  However Kenny Ortega was worried and evidently connected the missed rehearsals with Michael’s health.

They arranged a meeting in Michael’s home where officially they discussed only nutrition but in reality Randy Phillips and others were “firm” with Michael as Kai Chase remembers it. They say that Michael stayed at the meeting to the very end of it, and Kai Chase says that Michael walked out of the meeting and sometime after that Murray stormed out of the room too, saying he could not take that shit any longer.

This is what we can gather about the meeting in early June from what all the parties are telling us. It was after that meeting that Michael looked frightened, scared and thoughtful, and seemed to Kai Chase to be carrying the weight of the whole world on his shoulder.

I apologize for long excerpts from the testimonies but they were necessary for us to more or less understand the circumstances around that meeting.

Let us go on with Kai Chase’s testimony. She describes the day Michael died and tells us how hard it is for his mother and children to cope with the loss even four years later:

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The chef did not suspect Dr. Murray was doing something harmful to Michael Jackson.

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I thought it was strange that there were oxygen tanks at home when there was a doctor 24/7, Chase explained.

161

On June 24, Chase arrived at the house as usual and prepared breakfast. Dr. Murray was there, came to the kitchen from upstairs around 10 am

162

In June, MJ rarely went downstairs to eat breakfast, Chase explained.  Dr. Murray would get the food and take it to him.

163

He was dragging, he was dragging a little that day, Chase said. “But I did tell him he looked good, to give him some encouragement.”

164

Chase said MJ was contemplating going to Staples Center or training at home with Payne that day.

165

Chase was told to leave two dinner items in the fridge, one for Dr. Murray and one for MJ. She would work until 6:30-7, sometimes later.

166

June 25, Chase arrived at the regular time. She prepared some breakfast. “Everything was beautiful as usual.”

167

Chase said kids were playing at the den, she went grocery shopping, unloaded groceries. Lunch was always served around 12:30 am.

168

Saw Dr. Murray between 12:05-12:10 he came down in the same stairs as always. “He was frightened,” Chase testified.

169

Chase said Dr. Murray screamed to her “go get help, go get security, go get Prince.”

170

Chase stopped and went to get Prince. She told him “Hurry, Dr. Murray needs you, there may be something wrong with your father.”

171

Prince went to Dr. Murray and Chase saw the housekeepers, Jimmy and Blanca, crying saying there may be something wrong with Mr. Jackson.

172

Chase becomes emotional, cries a bit on the stand.

173

Chase: I hear Prince screaming daddy, daddy, daddy, Paris screamed DAD!

174

Chase said she didn’t want the children to feel pain. So she hugged all the children and said “Let’s pray.”

175

Chase said people were crying, security was everywhere, paramedics going up the stairs, chaos.

176

Katherine Jackson wiped her eyes, cried in the audience.

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They were devastated, Chase said about the children.

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Chase said she heard on the radio that MJ had died. “I didn’t want to believe it, I thought they were lying,” Chase said.

179

Chase said she was paid for overseas interviews, which were mostly on food preparation.

180

About returning to work last year, Chase said she got a phone call saying the children had been requesting me since their daddy’s death.

181

Chase began working with Mrs. Jackson and children in July 2012.

182

The kids really miss me, loved me and I agreed, Chase explained.

183

Chase said family was very important for MJ, they talked about it about 50% of the time. “He loved his mother and he loved his children.”

184

Chase said her responsibilities are the same with Mrs. Jackson. She said she has a lot of the in common with her, including the love for MJ.

185

She loves music, and art, and beautiful flowers, Chase explained about Mrs. Jackson. She said she speaks with the children every day.

186

Mrs. Jackson misses him very much, Chase said. “This is her child, her son! It saddens her, she cries, I cry. I comfort her.”

187

Chase said Mrs. Jackson misses her son’s spirit, the love he gave to her, the jokes they would share together, the conversations, the love.

188

About the children, Chase said they were huge and becoming teenagers when she came back last year.

189

Prince and Paris go to private school, Blanket is still home schooled.

190

Before they were in this protective type of special life, Chase explained. “They are thrust into the world now, which is all new to them.”

191

Chang: Do they miss their father?

192

Chase: That’s apparent

194

The love and the home is the same, Chase explained.

195

Chase said the children talk about MJ’s music, what he would do in certain situations.

196

Prince is now 16 years old. Chase says he was daddy’s little man, but now feels the weight of the world on his shoulder.

197

Chang urged Chase not to go into too many details about Paris.

198

Being daddy’s little girl, she’s devastated and lost, Chase said about Paris.

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Chase on Paris: She’s looking, for there was some much love that was given between her and her father

200

She’s lost, she’s searching, she’s sad. It’s devastating to her, every girl needs her father, Chase said about Paris.

201

She’s trying to find herself, trying to find who she is and it’s taking a lot of love and understanding to keep her together, Chase said.

202

Chang: Is she having a difficult time coping with the death of her father?

203

Chase: Yes, she is. She breaks down, she cries, she talks about him, she doesn’t want to have another birthday again

204

The entire household has been worried about Paris, Chase said.

205

Blanket just graduated from grade school. Chase said this is all knew to him too. “As the littlest he has his older siblings to protect him”

206

I still think the youngest child will be the most affected. Being the baby, it’s a lot of remembering of what daddy did, Chase on Blanket

207

He’s hurt too, he’s feeling a little lost too, Chase said, adding Blanket never had a growing up moment when was father-son only.

208

He remembers his father, Chase said.

209

Chase hugged Katherine Jackson in the audience and they both cried

210

No more questions by plaintiffs.

211

AEG’s attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did cross examination of Kai Chase.

212

Bina asked if Michael Amir did background check in her. She replied she didn’t know.

213

Middle of April Chase began having Sundays off.

214

Bina: Did you sign anything to get a credit check on you?

215

Chase: No

216

In April, Chase said she saw MJ a lot. He would come home for lunch and stay for dinner.

217

Chase said she spent 70-75% in the kitchen. The rest, she says she spent playing with the children.

218

Chase said in April, MJ would hang out with the children about 3-4 times a week for about 25% of the time. He wasn’t there as much in June.

219

I don’t know if it was unspoken rule, I was told by Michael Amir that client requested quarters upstairs to be private, Chase explained.

220

Chase said that either the children or Dr. Murray would take the food upstairs.

221

LAPD detective Orlando Martinez said Chase took a tray of food for MJ upstairs, and she said it was not true, that never happened.

222

Bina showed paparazzo picture of the children in 2008. At the corner, there’s a man in a wheelchair wearing surgical mask. He resembles MJ.

223

Chase said she doesn’t know who the person is. Bina wants to show another photo, and Chang requested a sidebar.

224

Chase could not say whether the person on the wheelchair and surgical mask was MJ.

225

Bina played video deposition of Paris Jackson. She said her dad didn’t like Rwaramba, he said she was sneaky, wasn’t honest person, lied a lot

226

Paris tells in the depo how Grace Rwaramba portended to be MJ’s wife when they were at hotel rooms. This contradicted what Chase testified.

227

We have copy of the deposition video, will post link to our story as soon as we have it.

228

The pay was sporadically, Chase said. When she asked about where the checks were, she was said they were going through changes.

229

Bina inquired Chase if she knew how the private circus in the backyard for Paris birthday party was paid for. She said she didn’t know.

230

Chase said Michael Amir told her she would get fired if she asked MJ or the kids about not getting paid.

231

As to the snail hunting, Chase said it happened around 8 pm and she wasn’t sure how MJ would react.

232

Bina: When you were let go in May, did you believe MJ was healthy?

233

Chase: Yes

234

Chase said neither MJ nor his children called her after she was fired to find out why she wasn’t at the house.

235

He didn’t look healthy, Chase explained. “He looked a little undernourished.”

236

Bina: Do you know the reason why MJ couldn’t buy food in May?

237

Chase: I don’t know

238

Chase said she has no idea what MJ and the children were eating in May while she was gone.

239

Chase said MJ looked pretty strong in April. “He looked great in April, he didn’t look good in June,” Chase opined.

240

Bina said Chase never mentioned the stair incident, where Prince had to help MJ upstairs, to the media.

241

I wanted to be very general with my conversations with the media in respect of his privacy, Chase explained.

242

Bina played Prince’s video deposition where Prince said he wouldn’t be able to help his dad upstairs.

243

He was rehearsing a lot, tired, that’s what I saw, Chase explained. “I saw him tired, weak and over rehearsed.”

244

Chase said she asked Dr. Murray about MJ eating. “He said, well, he doesn’t eat that much.”

245

Chase said Dr. Murray seemed like a nice man. She was not concerned about him not being a good doctor.

246

Chase was shocked when she heard MJ died. She first didn’t believe it.

247

Chase testified she never saw MJ drink alcohol or under the influence of drugs. In April, Chase said she saw Dr. Murray 2-3 times a week.

248

There was one time in June Chase cooked dinner for Dr. Murray, MJ and the kids, served Turkish lentil soup.

249

Chase said the times she saw Dr. Murray and MJ together, they had a friendly relationship; children seemed to like Dr. Murray as well.

250

My understanding was that Dr. Murray was his personal physician, Chase explained.

251

Chase said it didn’t seem weird MJ have doctor, maybe he needed for aching bones. But she thought it was weird to have a doctor every day.

252

It was strange that he (Dr. Murray) was there all the time, Chase opined.

253

Oxygen tanks in April were smaller, in June bigger, Chase said. She saw Dr. Murray come down with a tank on each hand in the morning.

254

Chase never inquired about the oxygen tanks, because “it was none of my business.”

255

Chase said she didn’t have any idea that MJ was taking Propofol to sleep.

256

Chase: I thought he was over rehearsed, I thought he was rehearsing too much, that they were overworking him. And this was the result of it

257

Chase testified in April MJ would eat breakfast with his kids every morning. But in her depo, she said Dr. Murray would bring his breakfast.

258

He had breakfast with his children when he wasn’t having food upstairs, Chase said.

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Judge adjourned session until today at 1:30 pm PT with Kai Chase resuming her testimony. We’ll bring you all the details during breaks.

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Here’s a link to our story with Prince and Paris deposition: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=9144445 …If you want to watch more of Paris and Prince deposition, we posted here: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=91444 …

The clips of Paris’s and Prince’s depositions were played by the AEG lawyers to “refute Kai Chase’s testimony”:

Poor children if they had to be deposed about things like that.  And Paris’s story is not refuting anything as regards Grace Rwaramba – I highly doubt that Michael would tell his 11-year old daughter the details of his or anyone’s intimate life with women, so all stories in this respect should be taken with a grain of salt.

Now that someone posted a longer version of Paris’s deposition it looks to me that she was indeed talking about her father and not about some doctor. And the story dates back to the times when Blanket was not yet born, so when Paris heard it she was probably even younger than 11 years old.

All Paris’s story convinced me of is that Grace was so much in love with Michael that she tried all sorts of tricks to stay beside him. And these are not lies. Paris does not understand it at the moment but she will. These children only look like grown-ups but they are still children and behave like ones. Paris, for example, has mistaken the deposition for a gossip club.

Now I have a question to the author of this video:

Why does he call the AEG trial the “Michael Jackson” trial? And how is Paris’s story supposed to refute Kai Chase’s testimony about the confrontation that took place in Michael Jackson’s home?

No, they are simply distracting our attention, guys, and now they have found new stars to dazzle us with…

A really serious report about Kai Chase’s testimony was made by the ABC. They speak about the central point in the chef’s testimony –  the confrontation between the AEG executives, Michael Jackson and Conrad Murray, part of which Kai Chase was a chance witness to.

As you have seen the confrontation was so bad that Michael and Murray left the meeting one after another and Murray expressed his opinion about it as “shit” which “he cannot take” any more. Powerful words, and also probably the best ones to describe all the outrage that was taking place in that awful AEG business. The next day after the meeting Michael looked like the weight of the whole world was on his shoulder. Kai Chase said:

  • “He was thinking, the weight of the world on his shoulder, he was frightened, scared.”

ABC video speaks of the above only their video would not embed into the post – you have to click on the link to see it. The video is highly recommended:  http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=9145308&pid=null

The ABC news is focusing on just the right things there, and one of them is Michael Jackson saying to his personal chef that AEG was actually killing Michael by making him work too hard. This is what is so really important about Kai Chase’s testimony and not Paris’s words about the way she sees Grace now:

  • “They are killing me. They are working me too hard.”

The ABC News correspondent is making a fairly good report of the chef’s testimony:

Michael Jackson’s chef talks confrontation at singer’s home

Wednesday, June 19, 2013 Miriam Hernandez 
LOS ANGELES (KABC) — Powerful testimony continued Wednesday in the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial as a member of the pop star’s staff talked about an angry confrontation in the Jackson home. The testimony came after jurors saw part of a taped deposition from one of Jackson’s children.

The singer was pressured to perform, according to the claim filed by his mother, Katherine Jackson. The suit blames his tour producer, AEG Live, for making excessive demands on the singer and his doctor, Conrad Murray.

For the first time, the jury heard about a confrontation at the Jackson home between AEG executives, Jackson and the doctor.

Jackson’s personal chef, Kai Chase, testified she served snacks at the meeting, did not hear the discussion, but did witness the fallout. She said Murray cursed as he stormed out and said he didn’t have to take it.

A vase was broken, Chase said, though she couldn’t say how. She testified that Jackson was wrapped in layers of clothes and, in her opinion, there was fear in his eyes.

Chase testified that Jackson once told her that he was tired and that he said, “They are killing me. They are working me too hard.”

AEG’s lawyer asked Chase if she took it literally and pointed out that Jackson didn’t die of exhaustion, but from an overdose of the anesthetic propofol.

Chase replied, “I just took it for what he said.”

Chase testified that despite Jackson’s complaint about laboring to prepare for the tour, she said she never got the impression he was trying to avoid it.

Chase’s credibility was raised Tuesday after she told the jury about former Jackson nanny Grace Rwamba, who she said was beloved by the family. The defense played part of a video deposition from Jackson’s daughter, Paris, in which she said her dad didn’t like Rwamba and that the nanny once snuck into his hotel room.

“She would call the hotel and say she was his wife. She was obsessed with him,” Paris Jackson said. “She’d call and say she was his wife. And they’d let her in, and he’d wake up and she’d be like in his bed… kind of creepy.”

The 15-year-old was answering questions from AEG attorneys on March 21, two months before her apparent suicide attempt.

The loss of her father is a component of the lawsuit filed against the entertainment company. According to court documents, general damages sought are in excess of $50 million for each of Jackson’s three children and their grandmother.

There’s no word on when the jury will hear more from Paris.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?id=9145307

CHEF DESCRIBES KIDS’ GRIEF OVER JACKSON’S DEATH

By ANTHONY McCARTNEY

— Jun. 18 8:08 PM EDT

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Michael Jackson’s personal chef described for jurors the home lives of the children during the final months of the singer’s life and their ongoing grief over their father’s death nearly four years ago.

Gone are the freewheeling days when the children, Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson played with their father and traded jokes at the dinner table, chef Kai Chase told jurors Tuesday.

It has been replaced, Chase said, by a weight on eldest son Prince Michael Jackson’s shoulders. Daughter Paris Jackson cries and no longer wants parties for her birthday since her father hosted a private circus for her 11th birthday. Youngest son Blanket, who remains home-schooled, wears a T-shirt with his father’s image every Friday, she said.

Chase recounted for jurors her interactions with Jackson, his children and her ongoing work with the singer’s mother and children for jurors hearing Katherine Jackson’s negligent hiring case against concert promoter AEG Live LLC. The company denies all wrongdoing.

After weeks of testimony about Jackson’s business dealings with AEG, Chase’s testimony returned the trial’s focus to the King of Pop and his offspring.

“At 16, the weight of the world is on his shoulders,” Chase said of Prince Jackson, who is trying to figure out girls and all the challenges adulthood brings.

His younger brother, 11-year-old Blanket, has his older siblings to shield him from pain but had the least time to spend with his father. “He never really had a time when it was father-son because he was so tiny,” Chase said.

The singer’s only daughter seems to be having the hardest time, Chase said.

“Being daddy’s little girl, Paris is devastated,” Chase said. “She’s devastated and lost.”

Chase’s testimony provided a look into the lives of Jackson’s three children before and after their father’s death in June 2009. Michael Jackson was fiercely protected of their privacy, often using masks to hide their faces when they were in public.

She now has daily interactions with Jackson’s children since being hired to serve as their chef in July 2012. Of Paris, she said, “She’s trying to find herself and find who she is,” Chase said. “It’s taking a lot of love and understanding to keep her together. She breaks down, she cries, she talks about him.”

Earlier in her testimony, she described an April 2009 birthday party for Paris that included a private circus. The Cirque du Soleil-style show featured men on stilts and a woman performing in a giant balloon, Chase said.

Paris Jackson, who was turning 11, adored her father and Chase helped decorate a room filled with posters and photos of the “Thriller” singer. The singer’s music was played throughout the party.

It was the last birthday party the 15-year-old has had. “Paris hasn’t had any birthdays since,” Chase said. “She hasn’t wanted to celebrate since.”

She described the routines in Jackson’s home in the months before his death, describing him as a vibrant and hands-on father. But by June 2009, Chase said Jackson was deteriorating and she witnessed Prince having to help his father up a staircase to his bedroom.

She said she met AEG executives at the center of the case, including chief executive Randy Phillips and executive Paul Gongaware, when they came to Jackson’s home for meetings about the singer’s ill-fated “This Is It” comeback concerts. One tense meeting in June started with a vase being broken — she didn’t know by whom — and with Jackson and his personal physician storming out.

The doctor, Conrad Murray, told her as he left the home, “I can’t take this (stuff.)”

She described the Jackson family dynamic in happier times at the home. The entertainer wouldn’t allow his children to eat sweets and made sure they went to bed early so they would be alert for tutors who instructed them. Chase described Jackson as a prankster who ate meals with his children, exchanging jokes and stories.

When the singer entered the room, his children would run to their father when he came into a room. “They would take off like lightning,” she said, hugging their father’s ankles and legs.

If jurors determine AEG Live is liable for Jackson’s death, they will have to determine any damages awarded to his mother and his children.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/chef-describes-jackson-childrens-lives-jury

The media is finally beginning to suspect that AEG might lose the case. Well, better late than never:

Michael Jackson Wrongful Death Trial: Could AEG Actually Lose?

byFree Britney at June 16, 2013 10:07 am.

The Michael Jackson wrongful death trial is in full swing, and it looks like defendant/concert promoting giant AEG Live actually stands a chance of losing.

Michael’s mother and his children’s guardian, Katherine Jackson, have made a bold effort to convince a jury AEG Live was negligent, TMZ reports.

Randy Phillips, the head of the company, had trouble explaining why he thought MJ “looked really good” in a meeting just five days before his death.

A photograph of the entertainer taken a day before – June 19, 2009 – clearly showed otherwise, with a smiling Jackson looking noticeably gaunt and pale.

Kenny Ortega and others testifying that they were alarmed over MJ’s health as AEG and Dr. Conrad Murray ignored them has also provd compelling.

In the days preceding his death, Jackson missed rehearsals and was sweating profusely. He also seemed out of it, saying “God keeps talking to me.”

As for how Phillips reconciled his comment about Jackson with other evidence, he said, “I was confused as anybody.” Not exactly a convincing argument.

Experts believed AEG would and could make the case that they felt Jackson being properly cared for by Murray, who MJ is said to have hand-picked.

In other words, the explanation that Jackson knew what he was getting into and AEG can’t be held responsible for his recklessness seemed airtight.

Or not. Lawyers for Katherine Jackson and the children (Blanket, Prince and Paris Jackson) may have the upper hand in the trial up to this point.

They key: If a jury believes AEG unreasonably pushed Michael to perform when they knew he wasn’t up for it, or if they ignored possible warning signs.

The family is seeking tens of billions of dollars in damages resulting from the death of Michael Jackson, which tragically occurred June 25, 2009.

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2013/06/michael-jackson-wrongful-death-trial-could-aeg-actually-lose/

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On  June 19th 2013, Day 33 of the trial, Kai Chase continued her testimony:

1

MJ’s personal chef Kai Chase on the stand. AEG’s attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina doing cross examination.

2

Chase said she never met Dr. Alan Metzger, another physician who treated Michael Jackson.

3

Katherine Jackson is not in the courtroom today.

4

Bina asked why Chase never told the police or testified at Dr. Murray’s trial about the meeting at MJ’s house. She said she wasn’t asked.

5

Bina: First time you mentioned the meeting was in your deposition in Oct 2012?

6

Chase: Yes

7

At that point, Bina pointed out Chase was already working for Mrs. Jackson.

8

Gongaware, DiLeo, Phillips, MJ and Dr. Murray were present in the meeting, Chase explained.

9

Bina: You testified Mr. Jackson was wearing surgical mask and layers and layers of clothing, correct?

10

Chase: Yes

11

But Bina said she didn’t mention the surgical mask or layers of clothing before.

12

I described his emotions, yes, Chase explained. “You could just see the fears in his eyes.”

13

Bina: Did you think it was important to mention MJ was wearing a surgical masks during your deposition?

14

Chase: I said what I said

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He looked scared, Chase said. “They didn’t ask for that and I didn’t say it.”

16

I didn’t know why he as wearing that, it was pretty strange, he had not worn that in the house before, Chase said about the surgical mask.

17

Bina: And it wasn’t important enough to tell anybody before testifying yesterday, correct?

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Chase: Yes

19

Bina: Did you ever mention before yesterday that Mr. Jackson was cold in that meeting?

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Chase: Yes!

21

Chase said she saw MJ cold once.

22

Mr. Jackson was very scared at that meeting, Chase testified. But she said MJ didn’t tell her he was fearful, never spoke to her about it.

23

Chase said she overheard bits and pieces of the meeting since she was in and out of the room filling up beverages.

24

I heard what Mr. DiLeo had stated, Chase explained. Judge sustained objection about it being hearsay, so what DiLeo said was not repeated.

25

Chase said she also told during her deposition about the voices being raised in the meeting; she said she does not know who broke the vase.

26

As to Dr Murray leaving the meeting, Chase said he was so angry and upset, stormed into the kitchen, blurted out ‘I can’t handle this s**t.’

27

Chase never talked to Dr. Murray after this episode to ask him what had happened that made him so upset.

28

Bina asked if she knew the reason Dr. Murray was upset was because of the meeting.

29

No, I don’t, but I was assuming it had to do with the meeting because he was coming out of it and left, Chase said.

30

They are killing me, I’m working too hard Chase said MJ expressed. Bina asked if was figure speech she said she took it for what he said

31

MJ talked to Chase about This Is It tour. “He was excited about everything,” Chase said.

32

When he stated I’m being overworked, they are killing me, that was an indication he was tired, Chase explained.

33

He was tired, he needed a rest, a break, Chase said.

34

Bina played Chase’s deposition, where she said MJ didn’t give her any indication he was trying to avoid this concert at all.

35

He was excited about going to this tour, Chase said. “I too was excited, for him, for his fans, for everyone,” Chase said.

36

Chase understood she was hired by Michael Jackson but was going to be paid by AEG Live.

37

The chef said she didn’t know anything about MJ paying AEG back for her salary.

38

Bina: You understood you were let go in April for financial reasons?

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Chase: Yes

40

Chase was paid every week. She had to file a claim against MJ’s estate to be paid for the month of June, 2009. She has been paid in full.

41

The credit card that was declined belonged to Michael Amir Williams, Chase said.

42

I didn’t know what was going on, Chase explained about MJ’s eating in May. “I assumed they possibly had food brought in.”

43

Bina talked about the day MJ died. Chase said she got Prince because  it was such a serious matter.

44

Chase said she didn’t think was going to make sense to stop what she was doing to out the house and look for security.

45

After getting Prince, Chase returned to work. At some point, Chase and the housekeepers were told to leave the house.

46

We were asked to leave, the paramedics was still there, Chase said.

47

Chase asked Alberto Alvarez, MJ’s security guard, if MJ was ok? She said he told her he would be fine.

48

Alvarez asked Chase if she ever signed a confidentiality agreement. She said she had not, but Chase believes the housekeepers had.

49

Alvarez asked Chase to sign something on the spot. “He asked me to sign some sort of a paragraph not on letterhead,” Chase explained.

50

Bina: Did it require you to keep things confidential?

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Chase: It never said that

52

Chase signed it but said she can’t remember what it said. She then left the house. That was the last time she was at the Carolwood house.

53

I was serving smaller portions of food to MJ, Chase explained.

54

Bina showed Chase a blog with interview Chase gave to Larry King Live. “I did not write this blog for Larry King,” Chase said.

55

Chase got a little irritated with the question and said she has a blog about food. “And I’m telling you this, in a nice way,” Chase said.

56

Bina: Did you did tell Mr. King during the time you fed him well and he ate well?

57

Chase: Yes, when I was feeding him, yes

58

Bina: That he ate well, organic foods?

59

Chase: Yes

60

He ate well because I fed him well, Chase testified. “Overall, Mr. Jackson ate well.”

61

Chase: He ate well because the foods I prepared him, which were healthy, well nutrition foods. That’s what I mean when I said he ate well.

62

Bina: He had poor appetite, but ate well?

63

Chang: He ate well, healthy foods

64

Chase said it fluctuated the hours she left. She said MJ was a strict father, the kids had to go to bed on time.

65

Sometimes he would be there with his children, but schedule changed, Chase said.

66

I was there every day, Chase explained, saying she didn’t go upstairs, so she didn’t see MJ tuck the kids in bed.

67

Chase said MJ would do school nights, weekends, sometimes he came home late would let kids stay up. “He was a parent, that’s what you do”

68

About Paris Jackson, Chase said she has not celebrated birthday parties after MJ died.

69

Chase visited the kids at the Hayvenhurst house a couple of times, two or three, between 2009-12.

70

Chase wasn’t present when Paris had her birthday. “She told me she does not like to celebrate birthdays after her dad died,” Chase testified

71

Chase doesn’t know whether Paris celebrated her birthday in 2010, 2011 or 2012.

72

I talked about the food and the love he had for his children, Chase said about paid interviews after MJ’s death.

73

I don’t know if he was terminating employment, but he made all the staff leave, Chase said about Alvarez asking them to leave on June 25.

74

In 2012, Chase was re-hired by Mrs. Jackson. They speak daily now, but never spoke before MJ died. Chase never saw her at MJ’s house.

75

Chase is currently being paid by Mrs. Jackson. She makes about the same amount of money from when she worked with MJ.

76

Bina asked if Mrs Jackson gave Chase birthday present this year. The chef said no, since she doesn’t celebrate dates being Jehovah’s Witness

77

Bina: She didn’t send you to the MJ Immortal show?

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Chase: She gave me a pair a tickets

79

Bina showed a tweet Chase posted.

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Bina: Do you have a twitter account?

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Chase: Yes

82

Tweet: Going to see the MJ Immortal Cirque Du Soleil show tonight. What a wonderful pre-birthday gift. Thank you Katherine Jackson

83

Chase said Mrs. Jackson doesn’t celebrate dates, but the chef considered it a pre-birthday gift for herself.

84

Chase worked as chef for Mary J. Blige sporadically after MJ died. She did not have steady job, had help from family and friends financially

85

In July 2012, Chase was contacted to work back with Mrs. Jackson.

86

In April 2012, Chase received a subpoena from AEG Live.

87

Sandra Ribera, Jackson’s lawyer, called Chase asking if she wanted to go back to work for her.

88

Ribera also acted as Chase’s attorney in her deposition.

89

In Oct 2012, deposition was taken. Chase does not know who paid Ribera to accompany her in her depo.

90

Chase met with Chang, attorney for the Jacksons, for about an hour a month ago, another hour a week ago and briefly yesterday.

91

Bina: Are you afraid that if you don’t testify in the right way in this trial Mrs. Jackson may fire you?

92

Chase: No

93

Bina: Did that never cross your mind?

94

Chase: No, that’s absurd

95

Nothing more from defendant’s attorney.

96

Jacksons attorney Deborah Chang did re-direct.

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Chang: Do you know if Ms. Ribera hires all staff for Mrs. Jackson?

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Chase: Yes

99

Chang: Do you know if Ms. Ribera handles payroll for Mrs. Jackson?

100

Chase: Yes

101

Chase said the children requested her to come back to work at the house.

102

Chang: Have you and Mrs. Jackson discussed this lawsuit?

103

Chase: No

104

Chang: Have you seen Mrs. Jackson threaten to fire anyone who didn’t testify in the right way in this trial?

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Chase: No

106

Chase said Michael Amir told her he was 23 years old. She asked his age because she thought he was the client. Chase said she’s 45.

107

He was the librarian at Neverland and he used to alphabetized DVDs with his father, Chase testified about Michael Amir Williams.

108

Chase worked with Culinary Staffing, an agency that does a lot of background on people before setting up meeting with client, to find work.

109

She filled out AEG paperwork for working permit in the UK

110

Chase’s resume was 4 pages long, including her experience, schooling, references.

111

The form asked about criminal background, citations, financial information. Chase filled it out and gave it to Michael Amir.

112

Chang: Did MJ ever tell you not to go upstairs?

113

Chase: No

114

DC: Did MJ ever tell you not to ask him about payment?

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Chase: No

116

Chang: Did MJ ever tell you not to go in his bedroom?

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Chase: No

118

I was crying because it was beautiful to see him with his children, Chase said about watching Paris and MJ celebrate her birthday in 2009.

119

Chase said she wasn’t thinking about getting paid, since she had just started working for MJ. Paris’ actual birthday is April 3.

120

Her first paycheck came in on time, Chase said.

121

Regarding Paris deposition, Chase said her statement surprised her. “She seems just lost, she seems to just be grieving, missing her father”

122

Chase: I knew that she was very, she was very close with Grace when she was young

123

Chase said Paris has a feeling of abandonment, which is probably part of the reason she was angry with Grace.

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Chase said Grace was a very big support for her, very loving, helped her with the kids.

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They were just best friend, very, very deep relationship, Chase said about MJ and Grace Rwamba.

126

DC: And she was let go?

127

Chase: Yes

128

Chang: Did you believe she was protective over MJ and the children?

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Chase: Yes

130

The children felt abandoned, they weren’t happy, they were upset, Chase said about Grace being fired.

131

Chang: Do you know if Grace kept in contact with MJ?

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Chase: I don’t know

133

Chang: Do you know MJ created a foundation for her to work?

134

Chase: I’ve heard

135

Chase said she heard Grace was going to the UK to prepare things for MJ and the children.

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Chase: Yes

137

Chang: Paris has gone through a difficult period over the past 2 weeks?

138

She’s turned to her grandmother, she’s turned to Grace and she’s turned to her biological mother Debbie Rowe, Chase responded.

139

Chang: Did you ever see Dr. Murray make a special mineral-enriched shake for MJ?

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Chase: No, I did not

141

Chase made a variety of organic juices for MJ and the children.

142

Chase said she was not aware of Dr. Murray spending the night in April. She was never asked to prepare food for him then.

143

Chase said she spoke with Michael Amir about MJ being skinny, and he indicated he had the same concerns.

144

Chase testified she gave interview to LAPD 4 days after MJ’s death and didn’t think it was relevant to mention the meeting in mid June.

145

What they wanted to know was what happened that day, Chase explained.

146

Chang showed Chase transcript of criminal trial, where Chase said she was never asked what MJ was wearing in the June meeting.

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Chang: Did Paris want to leave her father (on June 25th)?

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Chase: Paris was so emotional that day

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Chase said there was a lot of screaming and crying.

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Chase: We were literally pulling her down the stairs, they had her by her ankles, she was going upstairs calling daddy, daddy, daddy!!!

151

Chase said she didn’t want to leave, but was told to leave. “Who was going to be there with them? I knew they loved me and wanted me there.”

152

Bina did re-cross of Chase.

153

Chase worked with MJ for about eight weeks, knew Grace Rwamba for about two weeks.

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Bina: Any reason to believe Paris wasn’t truthful when she was testifying talking about her conversation with her father?

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Chase: No

156

Regarding the company they used to hire Chase, she said had known this company for years, she used them for her own catering company.

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Bina: So the company knew you, didn’t have to do financial background on you?

158

Chase: No

159

Bina: But you said you had family and friends helping?

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Chase: Yes, they helped me financially

161

Chase: I didn’t say I had financial struggles

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Bina: Do you know why it took 3 years for them to ask you back?

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Chase: I guess there were other employees

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Chase said kids wanted her back.

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Bina asked if the form Chase filled out to work in the UK was given to all the employees. She said yes, but doesn’t know abut Dr. Murray.

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Chang: Did Mrs. Jackson ever offer you $150k to provide medical care for her?

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Chase: No

168

Then judge asked “How about for food?”

169

Everyone laughed, Chase said no.

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Chase was excused.

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Below is the full transcript of Kai Chase’s first day of testimony provided by the fantastic TeamMichaelJackson (please help them with funds to buy the transcripts here!).

The first day of Kai Chase’s testimony. June 18th, 2013:

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The second day of Kai Chase’s testimony. June 19th, 2013:

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37 Comments leave one →
  1. June 24, 2013 9:32 am

    There was 5 to 10 meetings at Michaels in June 2009.And in one a very expensive vase was broken, something nobody seems to remember. Michael is reported to have been frightened and used the mask while at home, something he never did before.You will never get the truth
    regarding those meetings from the AEG officials with their impaired memories.One wuould think their brains are more impaired though it was Michael who was treated to the all-night
    propofol.It is sad and painful just to read about his last weeks or months.

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  2. June 24, 2013 8:26 am

    I recall seeing an e-mail on this blog where Grace R.´s employment is discontinued “as AEG does not have a need for your services”. This was a few weeks ago.She would have been a dangerous witness.

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  3. June 23, 2013 8:43 am

    “Critical dates in june as per emails”– Sina

    Thank you Sina, it will be a great help to all of us.

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  4. Sina permalink
    June 23, 2013 8:22 am

    Critical dates in june as per emails

    13 MJ did not attend per Murray
    14 Ortega informs Gongaware of MJ absent
    16 intervention by Ortega, Gongaware, Dileo, RP , Murray
    17
    18
    19 MJ had ‘episode, sent home by Ortega
    20 and/or 21: meeting Leiweike, RP , Ortega with MJ . Gongaware asks to take Murray too( asks why Murray wasnt there june 19). (I think Gongaware not at that meeting)
    22 ?
    23 + 24 Michael att rehearsal

    Jun 14 Ortega to Gongaware
    “We’re you aware that MJ’s doctor didn’t permit him to attend rehearsal yesterday? (june 13) Without invading MJ’s privacy, it might be good idea to talk to his doctor to make sure everything MJ requires is in place. Who is responsible for MJ getting proper nourishment/vitamins/therapy every day? Personally, I feel he should have a top Nutritionist and Physical Therapist working with him on a regular basis. The demand on this guy is mentally and physically extraordinary! The show requirements exhaust our 20 year olds. Please don’t underestimate the need to stay on top of this”
    Gongaware to Ortega
    “Frank and I have discussed it already and have requested a face-to-face meeting w/ the doctor… We want to remind him that it’s AEG not MJ who’s paying his salary We want him to understand what is expected of him. He has been dodging Frank so far.”

    June 15 Gongaware to Ortega in response to request for nutritionist and physical therapist for MJ. l: “We’re on it. AEG owns major sports teams in this market so we think we can find the right people quickly.
    O to G Super.Not a minute too soon. Let’s turn this guy around!

    june 15 Hougdahl to Gongaware after Travis Payne expressed concerns about MJ s weight :He needs some cheeseburgers w/ bunch of Wisconsin cheesehead bowlers and couple of brats and beers

    june 15 Jorrie to Wooley: I’ve attached draft for your review/comment. If you approved the attached, please submit copy to Dr. Murray

    june 17 RP to Tohme : …Ortega, Gongaware, Dileo, and his doctor Conrad from Vegas and I have an intervention with him to get him to focus and come to rehearsal yesterday ( june 16 ?): Getting him fully engaged is difficult and the most pressing matter as we are only 20 days out from the first show.

    june 17 Gongaware to RP’s assistant: “We need a physical therapist and a nutritionist”

    june 18 Gongaware sent email with Murray’s phone numbers to RP

    june 19 Houghdahl to Gongaware/RP: “Paul/Randy I’m not bring a drama queen here. Kenny asked me to notify you both MJ was sent home without stepping foot on stage. He was a basket case and Kenny was concerned he would embarrass himself on stage, or worse yet, be hurt. The company is rehearsing right now, but the DOUBT is pervasive. Time to circle the wagons. Bugzee

    june 19 John Hougdahl to RP: ‘My laymen’s degree tells me he needs a shrink to get him mentally prepared to get on stage and then a trained to get him in physical shape… (Kobe’s should be available) I have watched him deteriorated in front of my eyes over the last 8 weeks. He was able to do multiple 360 spins back in April. He’d fall on his ass if he tried it now.”

    Jun 19, Phillips fw Hougdahls email to Tim Leiweke “We have a real problem here.”

    June 19 Leiweke asks RP for a meeting between him, MJ, Phillips and Kenny Ortega. “ Let’s set up a time for your and I to meet with him. I want Kenny in the meeting as well.
    Phillips said he forwarded the email to Ortega and asked him to set up the meeting. Ortega responded yes to the email next morning.

    june 20 RP to Bugze: I know because I just got Kenny’s message on my voicemail. What did he do when he got there and what happened between him and KO? I have a meeting with MJ tomorrow morning. (june 21)

    Hougdahl (Bugzee) to RP, cc Gongaware: MJ came out and watched all the pyro demonstration and endorsed the all the effects then went into his room and asked Kenny “you aren’t going to kill the artist, are you?” We assumed this was reference to pyro, but Kenny said he was shaking and couldn’t hold his knife and fork. Kenny had to cut his food for him before he could eat, and then had to use his fingers. I don’t know how much embellishment there is to this, but (Kenny) said repeatedly that MJ was in no shape to go on stage. He kept going on and on how no one was taking responsibility for “getting him ready”. We might be getting beyond … damage control, here.

    june 20 1:52 am RP to Gongaware: Tim and I are going to see him tomorrow( June 21 ), however, I’m not sure what the problem is Chemical or Physiological?

    june 20 Ortega to Phillips:
    “I honestly don’t think he’s ready for this based in his continued physical weakening and deepening emotional state. It is reminiscent if what Karen, Bush, Travis and I remembered just before he fainted causing the HBO Concerts to be canceled. There are strong signs of paranoia, anxiety and obsessive-like behavior. I think the very best thing we can do is get a top Psychiatrist in to evaluate him ASAP. It’s like there are two people there. One (deep inside) trying to hold on to what he was and still can be and not wanting us to quit him, the other in his weakened and troubled state … I honestly felt if I had encouraged or allowed him on stage last night he could have hurt himself. I believe we need professional guidance in this matter.”

    june 20 2am KO: My concern is now that we have brought the doctor in the fold and have applied tough love, now or never card, that the artist may be unable to rise to the occasion
    Finally, it’s important for everyone to know, I believe that he really wants this it would shatter him, break his heart if we pulled the plug. He’s terribly frightened it’s all going to go away. He asked me repeatedly tonight if I was going to leave him. He was practically begging for my confidence. He broke my heart. He was like a lost boy. There still may be a chance he can arise to the occasion. If we get him the help he needs.

    RP : Kenny, I will call you when I figure this out,we have a person like that, Brigitte, who’s in London advancing his stay. We will bring her back asap and Frank, too, however, I’m stymied on who to bring in as a therapist and how they can get through to him in such a short time.

    june 20 Gongaware to RP: Take the doctor with you. Why wasn’t he there last night?

    June 20 Frank D Phone message to Murray: “I’m sure you’re aware he had an episode last night. He’s sick. Today’s Saturday, tomorrow I’m on my way back. I’m not gonna continue my trip. Uh, I think you need — I think you need to get a blood test on him today. I — I — we gotta see what he’s doing. All right. Thank you.”

    june 20 RP to Gongaware cc Tim Leiweke: He is not a psychiatrist so I’m not sure how effective he can be at this point. Obviously, getting him there is not the issue. It is much deeper.

    june 20 RP to Leiweke: This guy is really starting to concern me. Read his email and my response. Dr. Murray and I are meeting with MJ at 4pm today at The Forum.
    Phillips also expressed concerns about Ortega, writing to Gongaware’s private email address, “This guy is really starting to concern me.” And email to Leiweke, Gongaware the CEO of AEG Live’s parent company, Anschutz Entertainment Group and Frank DiLeo.)
    RP then forwarded the email chain to John Branca, Joel Katz, Tim Leiweke , adding “Unfortunately we are running out of time”

    june 20 Branca to RP, Gongaware, Joel Katz, Frank DiLeo, Michael Kane: “I have the right therapist/spiritual advisor/substance abuse counselor who could help (recently helped Mike Tyson get sober and paroled) Do we know whether there is a substance issue involved (perhaps better discussed on the phone).

    June 20. Tim Leiweke to Dan Beckerman of AEG: “Big trouble.”
    Beckerman to TL: “I figured something might be wrong given how jittery Randy has been this week. Is it “pre-show nerves” bad or “get a straight jacket/call our insurance carrier” bad?”

    June 22 Hougdahl to Gongaware: Let’s keep our 2 docu people out of here (Where??) today, unless they stay in the dressing room area only. Tomorrow is another story…

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  5. June 23, 2013 6:44 am

    Susanne, I am talking about this board meeting AEG had at the end of May, 2009. Panish is examining Randy Phillips:

    Q. OK. Fair enough. Well, do you remember being called in to the meeting in May of 2009?
    A. I remember being asked to join the meeting, yes.
    Q. OK. Well, let’s play your deposition testimony of what you testified under oath in your deposition. OK?
    A. OK.
    Mr. Panish: and that will be page 120, 4 to 11 and 15 to 19. And just don’t play it until theysay(A video clip was played during which the following testimony was said):
    Q. Do you remember there being a board of directors meeting of AEG that you participated in late May 2009?
    A. It’s possible. I don’t remember it.
    Q. You don’t have any recollection of participating in a Board meeting at AEG In late May2009?
    A. It’s very possible. I do not remember.
    Q. I’m simply asking whether you have any memory at all of being at a board of directorsmeeting for AEG In late 2000 May 2009.
    A. No.
    Q. Now, that’s what you testified under oath in January, correct, sir?
    A. That I had no memory of it.
    Q. Sir, is that what you testified in January?
    A. Yes.
    Q. And then six weeks later, you again reviewed that and signed off under penalty of perjury that that was true, right?
    A. Correct.
    Q. And now you remember, correct?
    A. Vaguely.
    Q. OK. And when is it that you first remembered?
    A. You’re asking the question now. It’s the first time I thought about it see, the problem is, Mr.Panish, I wasn’t called in, as you put it, to discuss just Michael Jackson. We discussed our entire year.
    Q. Sir, my question was, when did you first remember that you went to the board meeting in late2009? Was that just now when I asked you? A. Yes.
    Q. And when you were asked that in January, you didn’t remember; and when you signed it on February 28th, you didn’t remember then, either, correct?
    A. That’s correct.
    Q. Well, let me show you, sir, a document that’s exhibit 11359.And when they have board meetings, do they have agendas, sir?
    A. I don’t I don’t do the agenda, so sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t.
    Q. OK. And do they keep minutes of board meetings, sir?
    A. I’m to be honest with you, I’m not sure. It would be done at the corporate level.
    Q. Have you ever been to other board of director meetings other than at AEG?
    A. No.
    Q. And let’s this is a board meeting agenda, is it not, sir, for May 26th, 2009?
    A. Yes, it is.
    Q. And then it says, between 1:00 and 3:00 p.m.,
    “AEG Live”on the calendar, right?
    A. Correct.
    Q. And it say, “budget review,” right?
    A. Correct.
    Q. Is that AEG Live’s budget that was supposed to be reviewed?
    A. Correct.
    Q. Michael Jackson tour?
    A. Correct.
    Q. Coachella event?
    A. Correct.
    Q. And festival business, right?
    A. Correct.
    Q. And it was you, Meserino and Webking that were called in, right?
    A. Correct.
    Q. And Mr. Webking, is he the one that’s the C.F.O ?
    A. Yes.
    Q. Meaning chief financial officer?
    A. Of AEG Live.
    Q. Correct. And Mr. Meserendo (sic)
    A. Miserendino.
    Q. is the C.O.O. Chief Operating Officer, and you’re the CEO?
    A. That’s right.
    Q. So you were there to discuss the four matters, correct?
    A. That’s correct.
    Q. And did you make a presentation to the board?
    A. Rick prepared financials for them to review, yes.
    Q. And did you look at those financials?
    A. During the meeting, yes.
    Q. Do you know where they are?
    A. Do I know where they are?
    Q. Yes.
    A. I have no idea.
    Q. OK. And do you know who was at the meeting?
    A. I a lot of it, I’ll be guessing; but I’m assuming it would be I shouldn’t I shouldn’t assume.
    Q. I want you just if you know, that’s fine, to tell me. If you don’t, that’s fine, also. Do youremember who was at the meeting?
    A. I remember Phil Anschutz , Tim Leiweke, Dan Beckerman, ted Fikre, Steve Cohen, CyHarvey and possibly Matt Anktell (phonetic), who worked in Denver. But I’m not sure who else.
    Q. And Mr. Anschutz , he would attend these meetings, would he not?
    A. Generally, yes.
    Q. And he would ask questions, would he not?
    A. Sometimes.

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  6. June 23, 2013 6:25 am

    “I’m still quite sure that the meeting Kai Chase described must be the one after Gongaware’s email of June 14, where he wanted to remind Murray who was paying his salary and where he wanted a face-to-face meeting with Murray. I’m just not sure which day the meeting took place, could have been June 16, but also June 14 (Sunday evening) or 15, if you go back to your timeline in your post of trial day 7 of May 15. There you assumed this meeting was on June 14 or 15, which is perhaps more likely.” – Susanne

    She could talk about the meeting around June 16th of course. But it could be an earlier meeting too. One day we will surely know (I haven’t read all the transcripts yet, so after that things may become clearer).

    I need to say that the end of May/beginning of June was another critical period in their “cooperation” – in fact all of it was one big crisis from beginning to end. At the end of May 2009 AEG had a board meeting where Phillips was reporting to Anschutz and all the others about the money spent on This Is It, and judging by various statements (also extremely vague) they had already exceeded the budget and this required explanations from Randy Phillips.

    What the budget was we don’t know yet. The contract said it was $7,5mln, Tim Leiweke in one article said it was $10mln and Sullivan’s book (probably following Tohme’s words) said it was $12mln. Yes, we don’t even know what the budget was – AEG is guarding these secrets like some countries are guarding their nuclear power secrets, lol.

    Panish asked Phillips numerous questions about the end of May meeting and this makes me think that Phillips had to explain there why they were exceeding the budget. Another question that follows from it is – who was to pay the sums exceeding the budget? If Michael was, then he was supposed to give his written okay to it. But since AEG has no written consents from Michael it means that he did not give any.

    These production costs exceeding the budget could very well be the agenda for the meeting in early June. And can explain all the fury they poured on Michael (if he refused to pay) and the reason why he left the meeting.

    Add to it that on May 29 Michael said to fans that he had never agreed to do 50 concerts and it was all in the press and you can imagine Randy Phillips’s frame of mind at that moment. Add to it that Michael was also making videos at Culver studios and defied AEG’s demands that he should attend rehearsals at the Forum on each of those days too, and you will see that at the beginning of June the situation was extremely explosive.

    I think one of the first crises (there were many) came at the end of May/early June. We just need a little more information to make sure of it.

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  7. Angie permalink
    June 22, 2013 6:18 pm

    ‘Helena’, you said “And the only thing Paris’s story convinced me of is that Grace was madly in love with Michael and that Paris (sorry) was simply jealous of her”. Why would Paris be jealous of her nanny? Lol. She wasn’t jealous her nanny, she just told the truth of what happened.

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  8. June 22, 2013 3:26 pm

    Yes, Helena, I’m aware it’s very difficult to determine the various meetings, when they were, who participated etc. And I’m sure the AEG executives are deliberately vague about those meetings and pretend not to recall anything, because the reasons they were summoned and what was said in them is crucial for the outcome of the trial. I’m sure they pressured Murray in at least one of them extremely, and they don’t want this to come out because with this they definitely would lose the case.
    Charles Thomson also wrote in one his tweets that the Jackson lawyers need someone who took part in these meetings to tell what was really said. This would decide the case immediately. And AEG tries to prevent this and curtain everything around these meetings, of course.
    I’m still quite sure that the meeting Kai Chase described must be the one after Gongaware’s email of June 14, where he wanted to remind Murray who was paying his salary and where he wanted a face-to-face meeting with Murray. I’m just not sure which day the meeting took place, could have been June 16, but also June 14 (Sunday evening) or 15, if you go back to your timeline in your post of trial day 7 of May 15. There you assumed this meeting was on June 14 or 15, which is perhaps more likely.

    I know they make it hard for us to find out – these guys try to fool us, but we can beat them.

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  9. June 22, 2013 1:16 pm

    “I know she said it must have been in the first 2 weeks of June, but that could also include June 16.” – Susanne

    1) Kai Chase said that it was either in the first or second week of June, but of course she could be mistaken by two days.
    2) The participants in both meetings were the same -Phillips, Gongaware, Kenny Ortega, Murray and Michael.

    This is what Phillips said about the second meeting on June 16th:

    Q. Kenny Ortega, Gongaware, Dileo and Conrad Murray from Vegas were all present at the intervention, right?
    A. Correct.
    Q. And you were trying to get Michael to focus and come to rehearsals, right?
    A. Correct.
    Q. And this intervention was on June 16th, right?
    A. The answer is yes.

    3) But over here one problem arises. Gongaware says that he attended only one meeting with Murray. There were “5 to 10 meetings in June” but according to him he was at only one where Murray was also present. And Phillips says that Gongaware was at two meetings with Murray.

    You know, if it were not connected with Michael’s death, all these testimonies would make a perfect script for a comedy.

    However I’ve not read all the testimonies yet – Gongaware and Phillips could easily change their testimonies again. They are not anything solid – they are in a constant state of flux.

    Guys, please remember that all the testimonies are posted on http://www.teamMichaelJackson.com (and they are desperately in need of the funds to buy them).

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  10. June 22, 2013 12:31 pm

    “It was probably the most aggressive meeting, so it’s absolutely not believable that Randy Phillips cannot remember this meeting. I read again his testimony about it and can’t believe what a liar he is. He does not remember a meeting where a vase was broken, where the voices became loud and where first Michael and then Murray left the room and where the rest of them were sitting alone in Michael’s house until whatever time they left?Wouldn’t you agree that this meeting of June 16 (after Gongaware’s email about reminding Murray that AEG pays his salary) is the one Kai Chase talked about? I know she said it must have been in the first 2 weeks of June, but that could also include June 16.” -Susanne

    As regards lies Randy Phillips’s testimony simply cannot be surpassed. I will try to look further into those meetings to see which was when. But you should consider that it is extremely difficult to understand anything as their goal is to confuse, hide the truth and cover up all tracks.

    Look at this example of Randy Phillips’s testimony – and this kind of vagueness and uncertainty is TYPICAL. They were talking with or about the biggest star in the world and they did not even keep a record of when they met, what they discussed and no one there remembers anything, especially Randy Phillips:

    Q. And, sir, do you remember telling the Los Angeles police department that your second encounter was with Dr. Murray was three weeks prior to Michael Jackson’s death?
    A. Yes.
    Q. Now, was that the meeting that you referred to as late May, early June, mid June?
    A. It’s the one I’m confused about as to whether it was in the first week in June or the second week in June.
    Q. OK. So that’s your second encounter, though?
    A. No; that’s the first encounter.

    etc.

    Can you understand anything here?

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  11. June 21, 2013 10:40 am

    “To be honest . like Elaine I felt very uneasy by Paris testimony to say the least. Not because I question her honesty, but it is the ease with which she says such harsh things about a woman who basically raised her.” – Sina

    I fully share your and Elaine’s uneasiness about Paris’s words and her overall attitude. She is telling her stories to the AEG lawyers as if they are friends of hers. “I’ll tell you something, it will freak you out” and all of them have almost a laugh after that. You can see her enjoying the process of belittling Grace and all the attention she is getting with it. No, I no longer recognize in her the great Michael Jackson’s spirit of love, tolerance and understanding for people. The chef is right – Paris is indeed lost and is shattered into pieces. Her father’s death and everything that followed had an awful toll on her – and it could not be anything different. If Michael were alive he would know how to handle it, but he is not and this is the tragedy of it.

    “She says that the creepy incident happened before Blanket was born which means that she should have been 4 years max. It is said that Michael treated his children like grown ups and that they were very mature for their age, but as a parent I cannot imagine him telling a 4 year old child about a woman crawling in his or a doctors bed. And a 4 year old to understand and remember something like that.”

    In the first place we don’t even know who she was talking about. ” ‘He’ told me” – who ‘he’ ? It is absolutely not clear. Was it a doctor? Was it her father? And why would they tell her an intimate thing like that? And even if happened what does it prove? The whole episode is meaningless, and cannot change anything (at least for me) in my perception of Grace, let alone refute Kai Chase’s testimony.

    All right, so Kai Chase observed Grace Rwaramba for two weeks and she produced a good impression on her and she shared this impression with us, but how can it refute her testimony? Even if Paris is of a different opinion of Grace than Kai Chase? All of us have different opinions about various people, so what?

    “I have an unsettling feeling that the AEG lawyers cozied her up and then lured her into saying things that she would not normally say. Psychological games that can make the most stern individuals let their guards down. Who knows what they got her to say.”

    Oh, the games these people are playing are cunning and devilish. Paris is a very smart girl but in her present state she is unable to tell a friend from the worst enemy.

    Then Grace was fired by AEG. Which answers the only question at stake here. Who fired Grace. Simple: AEG did.

    Exactly.

    “They try to make a mountain out of a mole hill to silence the importance of Kai Chase testimony. If Kai should be impeached because of so called contradictions, then RP and PG should be thrown in jail for constantly lying under oath and for false testimony.”

    The contradictions AEG is talking about are simply non-existent – if Paris says detrimental things about Grace and Kai says Grace was like a mother to them these are simply two sides of the same story. The fact that Paris is of low opinion of Grace does not prove that Grace was not trying to be like a mother to them. It just a matter of perception and seeing things from different points of view. It seems to me that the underlying basis for Paris’s attitude to Grace is ordinary jealousy which any girl will feel, for example, if her father remarries and brings a step-mother into their home. How many stories of a daughter’s hate for a step-mother have we heard? She becomes an object of hate the moment the girl realizes that some of her father’s love has been stolen away from her by ‘this woman’.

    However it does not mean that Grace Rwaramba is necessarily an angel. She could try to be like a mother to them, but we still don’t know what she is like. Probably too dominating. Probably too protective of Michael and therefore too intrusive. Probably not too clever. I remember reading that there were two women in Michael’s surrounding with whom Thomas Mesereau could not deal and he even wanted one of them fired (Raymone Bayne). And the second woman he didn’t like was Grace. So Paris may be right about her after all.

    But what is important is that the difference in perception of this woman by Paris and Kai Chase does not make Chase’s testimony (about the meeting, for example) less credible. These things simply have nothing in common with each other.

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  12. June 21, 2013 7:43 am

    That clip about Paris brings to mind a Deepak Chopra interview right after Michael’s death, where he explains that Grace was a friend of his, that he got Michael to hire her so that he could keep tabs on him, and that she would report back to Chopra about the goings-on in Michael’s household. It bothered me a lot then, and now I see that the whole family was aware of her spying, which would have made for tense moments. Apparently Deepak was concerned Michael’s “tendencies” might endanger his children. It upset me, along with some of the other stuff Deepak said about Michael then. Friends don’t do that to friends.

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  13. June 21, 2013 5:48 am

    Helena, I reviewed once again your post about day 18 and 24 where you talked about the meeting (better: intervention) following Gongaware’s email on June 16. I would regard this one as the one Kai Chase talked about. From her discription and from Michael’s and Murray’s reaction this would fit, it must have been the one where the now-and-never-card was played, as you described it. It was probably the most aggressive meeting, so it’s absolutely not believable that Randy Phillips cannot remember this meeting. I read again his testimony about it and can’t believe what a liar he is. He does not remember a meeting where a vase was broken, where the voices became loud and where first Michael and then Murray left the room and where the rest of them were sitting alone in Michael’s house until whatever time they left?Wouldn’t you agree that this meeting of June 16 (after Gongaware’s email about reminding Murray that AEG pays his salary) is the one Kai Chase talked about? I know she said it must have been in the first 2 weeks of June, but that could also include June 16.

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  14. June 21, 2013 3:44 am

    “Thanks Helena for taking the time to do these summaries” – Truth Prevail

    Frankly, this summary was a nightmare. It had to be redone 5 times. First of all because of all those clips from the children’s depositions that appeared later, but mainly because Paul Gongaware’s and Randy Phillips testimonies are complete jungles. They start with one thing, then say another, and finish with the third. Any facts about those meetings they arranged for Michael are extremely difficult to extract. AEG bosses are hiding this information, and do not say whether there was one meeting or ten, “do not recall” any of the dates, lie about who was present and say not a word of truth about what was discussed.

    Now I have found a piece about that meeting in a much later Phillips’ testimony (June 12) and posted it into the summary. He says that the meeting was “positive” and Michael stayed at it until the end (while Kai Chase testifies that Michael and Murray walked out of the meeting).

    Also the continuation of Kai Chase’s testimony on Day 33 was added.

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  15. Sina permalink
    June 20, 2013 7:12 pm

    To be honest . like Elaine I felt very uneasy by Paris testimony to say the least. Not because I question her honesty, but it is the ease with which she says such harsh things about a woman who basically raised her. She says that the creepy incident happened before Blanket was born which means that she should have been 4 years max. It is said that Michael treated his children like grown ups and that they were very mature for their age, but as a parent I cannot imagine him telling a 4 year old child about a woman crawling in his or a doctors bed. And a 4 year old to understand and remember something like that.
    Paris is very smart and knows the importance of her words in a situation like this.
    Does it even look like she is being questioned about her father’s death and would she be as cheerful if that was the case ? NO. To me it looks more as if she is talking girly gossip with a friend . I have an unsettling feeling that the AEG lawyers cozied her up and then lured her into saying things that she would not normally say. Psychological games that can make the most stern individuals let their guards down. Who knows what they got her to say.
    Maybe that is what the media were saying then, that she was a great witness and did better than her brother who at a certain point got very agitated with the questioning,

    I dont know about Graces’ relationship with Michael, probably had its own dynamics like any other relationship. but she seemed to have been a constant factor in the children’s life. In all of the photos or footage of her with the kids nothing indicates a discord. Would Michael have someone around his children from the day they were born up until the end if he had a single doubt about her?
    Then she was fired by AEG.
    Which answers the only question at stake here. Who fired Grace. Simple: AEG did.
    They try to make a mountain out of a mole hill to silence the importance of Kai Chase testimony. If Kai should be impeached because of so called contradictions, then RP and PG should be thrown in jail for constantly lying under oath and for false testimony.

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  16. June 20, 2013 5:05 pm

    I’ve looked up the article by Alan Duke of CNN and this time am amazed to see that he is gravely distorting the truth. Actually this is the first time I notice him do it.

    First of all he says very little about the June meeting and his coverage of it is disproportionally small. And second, he is saying exactly the opposite to what the tweets of the ABC7 Court News and TeamMichael Jackson are saying about that meeting and its prevailing tone.

    Both tweets said that “THEY were very firm with HIM”, but Alan Duke is interpreting it as “Jackson seemed very firm with them”!

    Has he got mad or what? After so grave an inaccuracy I didn’t really want to look any further, but the passage about Grace in the doctor’s bed attracted my attention. Can anyone please look up Paris’s interview and explain to me who she was really talking about? Some doctor who was staying at a hotel and Michael knew about it? And for some reason was telling it to a young girl?

    I don’t understand Paris’s speech very well, so those to whom English is a native language, please explain. My impression of it was exactly the opposite. Most probably Paris accidentally saw Grace in MJ’s bed and he had to come up with some ridiculous story. Adults sometimes have to.

    Paris, Prince Jackson testimonies shown in Jackson death trial
    By Alan Duke, CNN
    June 19, 2013 — Updated 2306 GMT (0706 HKT)

    Los Angeles (CNN) — Paris and Prince Jackson made their first appearances Tuesday in the wrongful death trial against their father’s last concert promoter.
    AEG Live lawyers played short video clips from the depositions of Michael Jackson’s oldest children in court to counter testimony from their chef.
    Kai Chase, who cooked for the singer and his three children in the last months of his life, had described what she said was Jackson’s physical deterioration just before his death.
    Jackson was strong, healthy and active in April, but was so weak by June that Prince, then 12, had to help his father walk up stairs, Chase testified.
    Chase also repeated the testimony she gave in the criminal trial of Dr. Conrad Murray about the day Jackson died.

    But her most dramatic words were about how Michael Jackson’s death affected his children — Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson, for whom she now cooks at their grandmother’s home.
    “They talk about their father a lot,” Chase said. “It’s just something that they’ll never get over — the love and how much they miss their father.”
    Jackson’s mother and three children are suing AEG Live, contending the concert promoter was liable in his death because it negligently hired, retained or supervised Murray, who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter.
    Murray told police he used the surgical anesthetic propofol to treat Jackson’s insomnia. The coroner ruled propofol killed him.
    AEG Live lawyers argue Jackson chose and supervised Murray, and their executives had no way of knowing the doctor was using the dangerous treatment.

    Paris testifies
    The day Paris Jackson attempted suicide, AEG Live lawyers told reporters they couldn’t promise not to use the 15-year-old’s testimony in their defense. Since Paris is one of the plaintiffs, they were able to compel the teen to sit for two days of questioning in March.
    Jackson lawyers, however, told the judge Tuesday that Paris is unavailable to appear in person since she is still being treated in a hospital. AEG Live is able to use the video recording of her deposition, which they began doing Tuesday afternoon.
    The first clip shown to jurors was an answer to a question by AEG Live lawyer Marvin Putnam about former Jackson nanny Grace Rwaramba, who was fired two months before Jackson’s death.
    “My dad didn’t like her, so he tried to, like, keep her away from us,” Paris said. “So he sent her on errands a lot.”
    Her father was reluctant to fire Rwaramba because “he felt bad because she didn’t really have a lot of money,” she testified.
    “He said she was sneaky and she wasn’t an honest person and she lied a lot,” Paris said.
    Paris related an incident that happened when she was “really young.” She prefaced the story by saying it was “real creepy” and “this is going to freak you out.”
    The nanny would sneak into a doctor’s hotel room and “he’d wake up and she’d be in his bed,” Paris said. “So, yeah, it’s kind of creepy.” It was unclear whose bed Paris was referring to since it was an isolated clip played without context.
    Putnam asked her why her father didn’t just make the nanny stay away. “He sent her to India to get some stuff,” Paris said. “She kept coming back.”
    The AEG Live defense team apparently played the video to counter Chase’s testimony about Rwaramba, who is expected to be a key Jackson witness later in the trial.
    Chase, in testimony Wednesday, suggested that Paris’ account of Rwaramba was influenced by her feeling of abandonment caused by the nanny’s departure from her life just before her father’s death.
    “The children felt abandoned,” Chase said. “They weren’t happy.”
    “This was the mother they knew,” Chase said of Rwaramba. “She was there when they were born.”
    Rwaramba is back in her life in recent weeks following Paris’ hospitalization, she said.
    “She’s turned to her grandmother,” Chase said. “She’s turned to Grace and her biological mother, Debbie Rowe.”

    Paris’ ‘Daddy days’
    “Being Daddy’s little girl, she was devastated, devastated and lost,” said Chase, who was with Paris every day until her attempted suicide on June 4, 2013. “She’s looking, for there was so much love between her and her father. She’s lost. She’s searching. She’s sad.”
    The “entire household” is worried about how Paris is dealing with the loss of her father four years ago, Chase said.
    “Every girl needs their father,” she said. “I would be devastated, too, if that happened to me.”
    Paris “breaks down, she cries,” Chase said. “She talks about him.”
    “She’s trying to find herself, trying to find who she is and it’s taking a lot of love and understanding to keep her together,” she said.
    Chase told jurors about a very happy day for Paris — her 11th birthday party in April 2009. Her father told the children they could eat whatever they wanted, which was a rare treat for them. Cheese pizza, hot wings and banana splits were on the menu, she said.
    The dining room was decorated with Michael Jackson posters and album covers, while his music was played “because this is what she wanted for her 11th birthday,” Chase testified. “She was just ecstatic.”
    “Just when you thought that was enough, he took his children to the backyard for a Cirque du Soleil-type performance for her,” she said. Men on stilts, a woman inside a big balloon and circus acts “brought tears to my eyes … It was the most beautiful expression of love I’ve ever seen.”
    “Paris hasn’t had a birthday party since,” Chase said. “She doesn’t want one.”
    Paris “remembers the Daddy days and her birthday,” she said.

    Prince’s testimony
    Prince Jackson, 16, also made a brief video appearance in Tuesday’s court session. AEG Live lawyers played a short clip from his deposition to counter Chase’s testimony that Jackson was so weak at one point in June that his son, then 12, had to help him walk up stairs.
    “Was there ever a time that he came home from rehearsals so tired that you had to help him upstairs?” Putnam asked Prince.
    “I wouldn’t be able to, but no,” Prince answered.
    Chase testified about Prince’s relationship with his father and the devastation his death caused.
    “Prince has always been, even at 12, the little man — daddy’s little man,” she said. “He wanted his father to be very proud of him, which Michael was.”
    The teen has “the weight of the world is on his shoulders, the eldest, big brother and father figure to his siblings,” Chase testified. “It’s a lot for him, growing, liking girls. He wishes his father was here to give him advice. It’s devastating to him.”

    Blanket’s ‘dance moves like his father’
    Blanket, who was 7 when his father died, is now 11 and a fifth-grade graduate of his home school. “l keep thinking he’s older because he’s so smart,” Chase said.
    “As the littlest, he has his older siblings to protect him, but I still think the youngest child will be the most affected,” she testified. “Being the baby, it’s a lot of remembering what daddy did, and it’s constant nonstop talking of him and his father’s relationship together.”
    Like Prince and Paris, Blanket is “feeling a little lost as well,” Chase said.
    He has to dress up each day, even though he is taught by a tutor at the family’s Calabasas, California, home. But he can wear what he wants on Fridays — which usually is a T-shirt from the Cirque du Soleil “Immortal” show based on his father’s music, Chase said. “He wears it constantly.”
    “He does dance moves like his father,” she testified.

    My ‘junior clients’
    Michael Jackson hired Chase as his family’s chef without meeting her — based on the recommendation of Prince, Paris and Blanket, she testified.
    She first met with her “junior clients” in the kitchen of the rented Los Angeles mansion where they were living while Jackson prepared for his comeback concerts.
    The interview involved a discussion of “everything from food to video games,” she said. “They wanted to make sure I knew healthy food.”
    “‘We eat healthy,” Chase said the children told her. “We don’t eat any beef or pork. Daddy likes apricots, we like fruit and Blanket likes mangoes.”
    “It just felt like this was a place I needed to be,” Chase said. “It was a beautiful beginning.”

    Dining with Daddy
    Meals were “their time to bond,” Chase said. “This was his time with them privately.”
    Chase — a graduate of the Cordon Bleu Culinary Academy in Paris — would set the table with a different theme for each lunch, featuring recipes from different countries, so the children would learn something while eating.
    “One day we would have east Indian food,” she said. “We would discuss what part of India we were eating from.”
    The children looked forward to “comfort food Saturdays” — which might include fried chicken — to break up the monotony of healthy eating, she said.
    Michael Jackson was “very much into Mexican” and his favorite meal was vegan tacos, she said. The Jackson lawyers showed jurors a photo of the dish Tuesday.

    April: ‘A good feeling of love’
    Music echoing through the Carolwood Drive mansion was a mix of Disney, Rolling Stones, David Bowie and classical, Chase said. Fireplaces stayed burning despite the warm temperatures outside. “It was a good feeling,” Chase testified.
    Animals roaming through the home included a chocolate lab named Kenya, cats Katie and Thriller, a rabbit and a talking bird who would “whistle when pretty girls go by,” Chase said.
    Prince had a pet rat he carried around, while Paris would host tea parties in her backyard doll house for the animals. The dog would jump in the pool with the kids when they swam on Saturdays, Chase said.
    The children would “run to him like lighting” when their father came home from a rehearsal,” she said. “They would hang on him. It would bring tears to my eyes.”
    Jackson would play games with the children and read to them at the end of the day, she said. “His personality with his children was warm and loving.”
    Jackson was “a disciplinarian when it was needed,” she said. The children had to be in bed at a certain time and school started on schedule.

    Snail Farming
    Jackson made sure school work was “interactive” for his children, including one science project for Paris that involved a night time hunt for snails, Chase said.
    “So far we have a daddy snail, but we don’t have a mommy and a baby snail,” Paris told Chase one evening. That triggered a snail hunt around the mansion grounds, she said.
    “I didn’t know how he would feel about his daughter and me out snail hunting at night,” she said, “but he was fine.”
    Jackson joined them in constructing a snail farm in glass vases on the kitchen counter.

    ‘Box of Happiness’
    After working for Jackson in March and April, Chase was suddenly dismissed in May because of what Jackson’s assistant told her was “a change of management.” She was not allowed to say good bye to the children, she said.
    The assistant called her back a month later and asked her to return to the job, which she did. But this time, her paychecks would be cut by AEG Live, she was told.
    Paris greeted her return with a gift. It was a shoe box filled with stuffed animals and coloring books she called a “Box of Happiness.”
    Paris learned “giving” from her father, she said.
    “She’d go get clothing maybe she wasn’t wearing anymore and she would cut them to make them into little skirts and hand sew them,” Chase said.
    “I’m making these little skirts that I’m going to put in a box and ship overseas to others that aren’t as privileged,” she said Paris told her.

    Empty pantry, declined credit
    The happy home she left in April was changed when she returned in June, Chase said. It was three weeks before Jackson died there.
    “The kitchen pantry was bare, and the only things in the refrigerator were Coca-Colas, Red Bull and Starbuck’s coffee drinks, which I know Mr. Jackson was not drinking,” the chef said.
    When Chase went to the grocery store to stock up the Jackson credit card was declined, she said.
    Jackson himself “looked very different,” she said. “He appeared very weak. He looked thinner, undernourished.”
    The “obvious difference” in Jackson from April to June “concerned me greatly,” Chase said.
    “He came to me and pulled me to the side and said ‘Where have you gone? I had no idea you left. I need you to keep me healthy. I’m working hard. They’re killing me,'” she testified.
    “He told me ‘I need you to keep me healthy. I don’t know why you left. I need you to keep me and my children healthy.’ I looked at him with great concern,” she said. “When he said that … I thought he was being overworked. He was over rehearsed.”
    Jackson was excited that she would again be feeding him, she said.
    “I knew I had to get this man as healthy as a possible, but I did not know why he was deteriorating,” she said.
    Another change she witnessed in June was the presence of Dr. Conrad Murray. He paid some visits in April, but he was there almost every day in June, she said. The doctor would bring empty oxygen tanks from Jackson’s upstairs bedroom each morning.
    “I was concerned,” Chase testified. “I had no idea what they were used for. I didn’t ask, but it was strange.”
    The world would later learn that Murray was using oxygen when he administered propofol each night to put Jackson to sleep.

    ‘A loud crash’
    The Jackson lawsuit alleges that AEG Live executives, including CEO Randy Phillips and Co-CEO Paul Gongaware, pressured Murray to have Jackson at more rehearsals. They cite a meeting they believe was held at Jackson’s home around the second week of June as evidence.
    Jackson, wearing a surgical mask and covered by several layers of clothing, appeared “scared and frightened” as he walked down his stairs to join Phillips, Gongaware, Dr. Murray and his manager Frank Dileo for the meeting in his parlor, Chase said.
    “I immediately heard a loud crash,” she testified. A “very, very expensive vase” sitting next to Jackson’s chair was smashed.
    Jackson “seemed very firm with them,” she said. The judge would not let her tell jurors what she heard him saying to the AEG Live executives. But there were “loud voices” and everyone was talking over each other,” she said.
    Jackson left the meeting, followed by Dr. Murray, who seemed “very upset,” she said.
    “I can’t take this s–t,” Murray said, according to Chase.
    When she saw Jackson later, he seemed to have “the weight of the world on his shoulders,” she said. He was “concerned, frightened and scared; a lot of those emotions.”

    The day he died
    Chase has publicly recounted several times the events at the house the day Michael Jackson died, including in interviews and testimony in Murray’s criminal trial. She described it again Tuesday for jurors in the civil trial.
    Murray “was panicked” as he screamed for Chase to call Prince and the security guard to go upstairs to help him.
    “Hurry Dr. Murray needs you,” she said she told Prince, who was playing in the den. “There may be something wrong with your father.”
    She returned to her lunch preparations, failing to alert the security guard in the shack near the kitchen door. Murray never asked her to call 911 for an ambulance.
    Chase realized there was a grave problem when the housekeepers began crying “Mr. Jackson may be dead,” she said. “You could feel the energy in the house was changing.”
    Prince screamed “Daddy” and Paris screamed a “blood curdling, out of her mind ‘Daddy!'”
    “I grabbed them and held their hands and said ‘Let’s pray. Father God, please let nothing be wrong with this man.'”
    Paramedics were soon running up the the stairs. Head of security Alberto Alvarez asked Chase to leave the house. “He’ll be fine,” Alvarez told her.
    Paris tried to reach her father as paramedics and Dr. Murray worked to resuscitate him up the stairs, she said.
    “We were literally pulling her by her ankles down the stairs as she was trying to go back up, screaming ‘Daddy, Daddy, Daddy!'”
    Chase did not see the Jackson children until she was allowed to visit with them weeks later, she said. Katherine Jackson hired her as her family chef last July at the request of Prince, Paris and Blanket.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/19/showbiz/jackson-death-trial/?hpt=hp_t2

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  17. Truth Prevail permalink
    June 20, 2013 3:56 pm

    Thanks Helena for taking the time to do these summaries much appreciated 🙂

    Yes the Kai Chase testimony was a very important one.

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  18. Truth Prevail permalink
    June 20, 2013 3:50 pm

    Hmm I don’t know about anyone else but I heard Paris talk about a doctor, but that reporter in the voice over said she was talking about Grace being clingy to MJ.

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  19. June 20, 2013 2:14 pm

    I agree, even with Prince’s statement – that was not a major inconsistency like the media portrayed. It wasn’t like Kai said Prince helped Michael up the stairs every night after rehearsals. She observed it once which he could’ve easily forgotten. Kai’s testimony was credible and some of the things Paris is saying about Grace could have been limited to “once upon a time” and she remembers the relationship from an 11 year old perspective.

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  20. June 20, 2013 2:05 pm

    “As Michael’s supporters we shouldn’t fall for AEG’s tactics.” – Susanne

    No, we should not allow ourselves to fall for their tactics. We are also human and also curious, so exchanging a couple of words about the children’s depositions is unavoidable, but now it is time to look into what Kai Chase said. And she said that they made Michael work so hard that they were actually killing him.

    This is the second time we hear Michael openly speaking about it. The first time was mentioned in Bugzee’s email when Michael asked Kenny Ortega on June 19th: “You don’t want to kill the artist, do you?”

    Just imagine it – Michael was not obliged to go to rehearsals AT ALL, but if he did not come to a couple of them they immediately called a meeting and were “firm” with him there. And at that meeting in early June they pressurized him so much that even a polite man like Michael walked out of the meeting. And then Murray stormed out too saying “I can’t take this shit”!

    All this is mind-boggling. And now AEG says that they hardly knew Murray? They controlled him and set him conditions in the same way they set conditions for Michael! In both cases they had no right to, but what does it matter to people like AEG?

    I wonder what demands they made of Murray if even he had to storm out of the room saying that he could not take it any longer.

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  21. June 20, 2013 1:52 pm

    “Everybody now, even the fans, are talking only about the deposition videos of Prince and Paris and these minor details, but not about the most important part of Kai Chase‘ testimony, which is indeed the meeting she witnessed, with Murray running out in anger and saying to Chase: “I can’t take that shit.” This is proof that he was under enormous pressure from AEG, and this point is crucial for the outcome of the trial. AEG didn’t find any evidence to refute this particular indicent, so they tried to distract everybody with less important details. As Michael’s supporters we shouldn’t fall for AEG’s tactics.” -Susanne

    These beasts are using people’s curiosity and natural interest in Michael’s children in order to distract the public from the case. Now I understand why they needed hours and hours of their depositions. So now each time something really important is told about AEG at the trial they will throw into the public another piece of the children’s depositions and millions will rush to look what it is, never paying attention to AEG.

    It is utterly disgusting. AEG is using the full range of the worst PR techniques not to allow the horrid truth about them to be known.

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  22. June 20, 2013 1:31 pm

    ‘Helena’, you said you doubt that MJ would tell his 11 year old daughter about intimate stories with women. So are you saying Paris is lying?” -Angie

    I’ve already explained my views on this engrossing subject.

    “You also said “Paris tells in the depo how Grace Rwaramba portended to be MJ’s wife when they were at hotel rooms. This contradicted what Chase testified”. So again you’re saying Paris is lying?”

    Dear Angie, unfortunately the word “portend” is not in my vocabulary – it is too limited for it. So this was said by someone else. Please go and ask them. Incidentally, if those people meant to say “she pretended to be his wife when they were at a hotel” I cannot understand how this can contradict Chase’s testimony. All it means to me is that this woman would have done anything to be beside this man.

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  23. June 20, 2013 1:22 pm

    I absolutely agree, Helena. Everybody now, even the fans, are talking only about the deposition videos of Prince and Paris and these minor details, but not about the most important part of Kai Chase‘ testimony, which is indeed the meeting she witnessed, with Murray running out in anger and saying to Chase: “I can’t take that shit.” This is proof that he was under enormous pressure from AEG, and this point is crucial for the outcome of the trial. AEG didn’t find any evidence to refute this particular indicent, so they tried to distract everybody with less important details. As Michael’s supporters we shouldn’t fall for AEG’s tactics.

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  24. June 20, 2013 1:14 pm

    “These are not major contradictions anyway.” – Tatum Marie

    That’s right.

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  25. June 20, 2013 12:56 pm

    “Some of Paris’ words make me uncomfortable. In the clip she seemed to enjoy belittling Grace. Grace was portrayed as the devoted nanny, so this is shocking.” – Elaine

    Frankly it looks like the usual girl’s jealousy. And Grace was a devoted nanny to them, everyone who saw them together made a note of it. However when you are devoted to someone it does not mean that they will be devoted to you. No surprises here. And surely Paris and Grace had a lot of friction between themselves. You can’t really do without it when your relations are that close.

    “Also, how could Kai be so mistaken about Prince helping his father up the stairs? She strikes me as a really credible witness.”

    Of course she is a highly credible witness. Prince was talking about it in general and if they had asked him about that particular episode he would have surely recalled grabbing his father’s arm and walking together with him upstairs. In fact if he was simply holding Michael by his hand or had his arm around his shoulder that would already confirm Kai Chase’s words.

    No need to even pay attention to small things like that. It is much more important to look into the confrontation between AEG and Michael (and possibly Murray) that took place in early June. Even Murray could not “take that shit” any longer – so we can imagine how bad it was!

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  26. June 20, 2013 12:39 pm

    I had very little time but still rewrote the part of the post about Paris’s deposition. You will see that I returned to my original understanding of the situation.

    The clips of Paris’s and Prince’s depositions were played to the jury by the AEG lawyers to “refute Kai Chase’s testimony”:

    Poor children if they had to be deposed about things like that. And Paris’s story is not refuting anything as regards Grace Rwaramba – I highly doubt that Michael would tell his 11-year old daughter the details of his intimate life with women, so all his stories in this respect should be taken with a grain of salt.

    Now that someone posted a longer version of Paris’s deposition it is clear that she was indeed talking about her father and not about some doctor. And the story dates back to the times when Blanket was not yet born, so when Paris heard it she was probably even younger than 11 years old.
    All Paris’s story convinced me of is that Grace was so much in love with Michael that she tried all sorts of tricks to stay beside him. And these are not lies. Paris does not understand it at the moment but she will. These children only look like grown-ups but they are still children and behave like ones. Paris, for example, has mistaken the deposition for a gossip club.

    Now I have a question to the author of this video:

    Why does he call the AEG trial the “Michael Jackson” trial? And how is Paris’s story of long ago supposed to refute Kai Chase’s testimony about the confrontation that took place in Michael Jackson’s home? They are simply distracting our attention, guys, and now they have found new stars to dazzle us with…

    A really serious report about Kai Chase’s testimony was posted by the ABC. They are talking about the confrontation in Michael’s home which Kai Chase was a chance witness to.

    This confrontation is the crucial thing we need to remember and not gaze at Paris though she is surely a star.

    The ABC video unfortunately does not allow embedding into the post. You have have to click on the link to see it. The VIDEO is highly recommended: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=9145308&pid=null

    The ABC news is focusing on just the right thing there – on Michael Jackson saying to his personal chef:

    • “They are killing me. They are working me too hard.”

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  27. June 20, 2013 12:31 pm

    “Helena, was Paris speaking about a doctor, and not Grace?” – Tatum Marie

    Paris was speaking about Grace and the doctor was just mentioned there, but all of it does not matter. Paris was describing a situation which took place long ago, even before Blanket was born, so any mention of a doctor there is totally irrelevant. And the only thing Paris’s story convinced me of is that Grace was madly in love with Michael and that Paris (sorry) was simply jealous of her.

    Now I’ve watched all the videos that have appeared for the past few hours and need to say the following:

    1. Paris is not refuting any of Kai Chase’s testimony because she is talking about totally different things.
    2. AEG has found a new way to distract out attention from the trial – now they are using Paris and Prince to distract us at the most crucial moments of the trial.
    3. Kai Chase speaks about serious things like a confrontation in Michael’s home and Michael saying that they were killing him by making him work too hard – and AEG “answers” it by playing Paris’s deposition, as a result of which all of us are busy discussing who she was talking about – her father, some doctor, Grace, and so on.

    In short it is another of AEG’s methods to distract us from the trial. Look at the headlines of the videos which have now appeared on Youtube: “Michael Jackson trial Paris, Prince Jackson refute chef’s testimony” http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dwfNArC5UkM

    Why “Michael Jackson” trial and not the AEG trial? And how is Paris’s story about Grace getting into Michael’s bed refuting the chef’s testimony?

    The headline itself is already forcing us to make wrong assumptions. They have set a trap for us again and we have allowed ourselves to get caught in it again too.

    P. S. Actually I like Paris’s story. It shows that not only children wanted to stay by Michael’s side, but women also crawled into his bed and went to great lengths to find themselves there.

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  28. elaine permalink
    June 20, 2013 10:06 am

    Some of Paris’ words make me uncomfortable. In the clip she seemed to enjoy belittling Grace. Grace was portrayed as the devoted nanny, so this is shocking. Also, how could Kai be so mistaken about Prince helping his father up the stairs? She strikes me as a really credible witness.

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  29. June 20, 2013 9:09 am

    Helena, was Paris speaking about a doctor, and not Grace?

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  30. June 20, 2013 5:36 am

    Actually I found it. Here is the original video which was shown to the jury to “refute Kai Chase’s testimony”:

    The longer version posted now by ABC is a different one:

    http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=9144445&pid=null

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  31. June 20, 2013 5:19 am

    “If you listen carefully to Paris’ deposition, she is not referring to her Dad being the person that Grace is referring to in regard to pretending to be his wife or getting into his bed; but is “the Doctor” – whoever that may be. Listen very carefully around the 1:51 mark.” – Susan M-S

    Susan, I did listen carefully to her deposition but the problem is that ABC7 posted two videos with three hours difference between them – one was a short variant where the Doctor was not mentioned and the second was a longer variant which makes it clear that Paris is talking about the doctor. The first video was a combination of Paris’s and Prince’s depositions and this was the video I was describing.

    Now both links provided by ABC take us to one and the same long excerpt showing only Paris:

    ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13 ч
    If you want to watch more of Paris and Prince deposition, we posted here: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=91444

    ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17 ч
    Here’s a link to our story with Prince and Paris deposition: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=9144445

    I have taken away my comment on the video from the post as there is no video to which it applies.

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  32. Angie permalink
    June 20, 2013 1:44 am

    ‘Susan M-S’, Paris was clearly referring to Grace when she said someone was pretending to be MJ’s wife. She said Grace was obsessed with MJ. Who else would she be talking to.

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  33. Linda permalink
    June 20, 2013 12:12 am

    @Susan M-S

    If you listen carefully to Paris’ deposition, she is not referring to her Dad being the person that Grace is referring to in regard to pretending to be his wife or getting into his bed; but is “the Doctor”

    Yes Susan, you’re right, I caught that right away. It’s totally obvious, so no reason for anyone to think or report that she was talking about her dad. However, It does sound like some of the media is starting to get it. Good day in court. Too bad every home in the world isn’t filled with as much love as Michael’s was. He was so far from the freak that the media always painted him.

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  34. Susan M-S permalink
    June 19, 2013 9:32 pm

    If you listen carefully to Paris’ deposition, she is not referring to her Dad being the person that Grace is referring to in regard to pretending to be his wife or getting into his bed; but is “the Doctor” – whoever that may be. Listen very carefully around the 1:51 mark.

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  35. TatumMarie permalink
    June 19, 2013 8:59 pm

    The way he raised his children is parenting at its best. I love this man and I broke down reading this. Thank you for posting this Helena.

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  36. TatumMarie permalink
    June 19, 2013 8:55 pm

    These are not major contradictions anyway.

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  37. Angie permalink
    June 19, 2013 8:34 pm

    ‘Helena’, you said you doubt that MJ would tell his 11 year old daughter about intimate stories with women. So are you saying Paris is lying?

    You also said “Paris tells in the depo how Grace Rwaramba portended to be MJ’s wife when they were at hotel rooms. This contradicted what Chase testified”. So again you’re saying Paris is lying?

    In Chase’s testimony, she said she saw Prince have to help his father upstairs. But in Prince’s deposition, Prince said he wouldn’t be able to help his dad upstairs.

    So are the children, Prince and Paris lying? And why?

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