Jacksons – AEG trial. The testimony of Michael Jackson’s son PRINCE. Tweets from TeamMichaelJackson
I don’t know what we would do without TeamMichaelJackson. ABC7 is keeping silent and it is only TMJ who is reporting live from the courthouse.
Please don’t pay attention to the spelling, I’ve corrected some abbreviations the way I understood them:
♛TeamMichaelJackson♛ @TeamMichael777
(Prince) Michael Jackson’s testimony June 26th #Jackson V AEG
26th June 2013 from TwitLonger
Taj Jackson, Mrs Jackson are in the court room with Prince, numerous security are in the hallway. Three bailiffs inside the court room by the door, others sheriffs outside the door.
Michael Joseph Jackson Jr was just sworn in. Originally was named Prince, because it runs in the family, then changed to Michael Joseph Jackson Jr
Have you ever testified in court before? No sir. Are you nervous? Yes sir. Don’t be nervous you are amongst family/friends.
Prince states his siblings’ full names, and date of births. Attends Buckley school in Sherman Oaks just finished 3rd year there.
In soft more, shows exhibit of image of Katherine Jackson. Prince and Paris on first day of school. Is currently honors of National [?] Society
Outside of school does martial arts, in school works on making jewelry, robotics, competes them in national competition
(What a well mannered sweet gentle little man)
Learning is important because that’s something Dad taught me, wants to go college to do business. When was young Dad used to teach me to make movies. My Dad gave me a necklace that had cameras in it, says its important to have the right shot.
Enjoys community work such as the children’s hospital, “literally healing” for children who need books, says father taught him
to give back to the community and help as much as we can, got all his desires from his father.
Says lived in Neverland property owned by father, stayed a lot in Disneyland in Paris. Remembers living in Santa Barbara till 6 years old, until police went into our house and ruined it.
For my dad. Shows image of MJ at piano, says I was trying to play, Prince looks 2 years old. Says loves music but does not have talent like dad.
Shows image of Prince with Paris laying beside him as a newborn baby, shows image of three at birthday party, at Neverland.
Has water gun, another picture of Prince. Panish says you always looked dressed up, Prince says dad wanted us to look nice so…
Someday when we have children we can show our children, shows picture of Paris, then Paris with tiara white dress, walking on wall
Shows more pictures of Michael Jackson, Prince, Paris, Blanket, says dad built the house for us – Neverland. It was very home place, from chef to housekeepers were like family to us.
Shows the zoo, video, (DAMN CONRAD MURRAY ATTORNEY JUST WALKED IN, USHERED OVER BY SABRINA STRONG WHERE TO SIT)
Says my dad loved making videos, shows video of Prince Paris on vehicles inside the house at NeverLand (DAMN MURRAY’S ATTORNEY TELLING ME TO MOVE, TOLD HER TO STFU!!!!!! COMPLAINED TO SHERIFF, MADE HER MOVE AWAY FROM ME)
Shows video of Prince and Paris singing with Michael, Prince says he picked the videos and pictures to show here today.
Video plays “This ones for all the children” ;,,,
After lived at Neverland traveled for a bit, Bahrain, Dubai, remembers staying in Vegas, father had lots of business he was doing.
In Ireland music always brought us with him, loved going with his dad, would be Prince, Paris, Blanket with either nanny or teacher.
Nanny changed from time to time, Grace was one, education and learning was always important to father.
Talked a lot about religion/ cultures, had normal education always, taught us to think for ourselves.
If anything happened to us father taught us to learn from it, to use it as a learning experience. Watched movies with father together.
First would watch movie without sound, father would teach how wide shots, close shots worked, then would watch it with sound.
Father would tell us how that could break make a movie, shows video, Michael interviewing Prince, Paris, Blanket.
Asking them their age, what does 25 December mean, love/family, MJ asks Blanket what you’re going to do, break the world when you get old “Paris I want you say tell me what you want to do, search you heart, search you heart?” “Help children”
“What’s Prince going to be, I want to make Movies”
Panish asks who tied your tie, says dad taught me to tie it, video was taken Christmas of 07/08, Prince says he was 9.
Did you learn from your father anything about work? I learned all my work ethics from my dad, dad could never sit around and do nothing.
I am the same, would you describe you dad as lazy? No not at all.
Me and my sister found out about a concert on video once, we saw girls crying and being carried out on stretchers.
Shows Prince, Paris, Blanket with mask, when we were little masks were normal, now I get followed all the time, now I understand why he did it.
Grace worked on production company, then lived with us for 12 years, shows picture of Grace, MJ and Prince, Grace has on denim jacket. Prince has on mask, shows picture of Grace holding Prince/Paris hands, denim jacket on, show picture of Grace Blanket and Paris.
Dad did not let us go out with anything, but let us go out with Grace. Have you seen video where Paris said something bad about Grace? Yes.
Why did she say that? We were having a hard time with losing out father, but my sister is with Grace now.
Grace was fired, when she came back my brother/sister and I were very happy to see her, 06/07 traveled a lot
But can’t remember when, where. Asked why moved to Vegas, Dad wanted to buy a house for us, we saw a house the Bahraini family had began to build but didn’t finish it, dad wanted to buy it. Says Tohme was involved in that.
Says we had a dog but Dad was terrified of dogs, asked if MJ make a song for you, says yes, plays song “You are my life”;,-((
Whilst song plays numerous videos of Prince, Paris and Blanket with MJ are played, Prince says he was very happy then.
Then there came a time when I heard father was going to go on tour at 02, lived at Bel Air, then moved to house in CarolWood.
Moved before Christmas, but doesn’t remember number of house, met Tohme, Randy Phillips, knows nothing about business
except what father told him, MJ wasn’t happy. Did your father tell you anything about Phillips? Yes, OBJECTIONS.
Who lived with you, housekeepers, nannies, was 12yrs old, Dad was very excited about the tour, it would be last time.
We would see him perform, saw MJ perform once but can’t remember, Dad used to rehearse for shows.
But was tired when he came home, wish he had more time, heard dad get upset on the phone mostly was with Randy Phillips.
Dad would cry after the call, saying they are going to kill me, they going to kill me, OBJECTION
HE SAID AEG, RANDY PHILLIPS, FR TOHME ARE GOING TO KILL ME, saw Phillips at the house couple of times.
Dad was not a fighter. Was like my grandma, always too kind, when we were in Beverly Hills hotel dad yelled at Tohme and cussed at him. Me and my sister didn’t like being around him, my dad was always calm person but became upset when on the phone with Tohme
At Bel Air hotel was last time my dad spoke to Tohme. Knows Conrad Murray first met him in Vegas, came over multiple times to treat us for colds, never stayed overnight, my dad was always there, when first living at CarolWood Nurse Lee would come, not Murray, later Murray was around more, would come every day except Sunday.
He would spend the night at our home, saw him give my dad IV injections, thought it was vitamins, first was in library, then moved to the 2nd bedroom upstairs. Shows plan of upstairs of Carolwood.
Says Dad always wrote notes to himself, sometime would be song lyrics, or comments from Ghandi, Martin Luther King, shows picture of notes, says sometimes wrote on the mirror
This is something dad did throughout his life. Back to diagram of house, shows bedroom 3 as Prince room, Blanket had
his own room but would sleep with Prince at times, Paris had her own room, got Blanket got his name by hearing
Someone address “Big blanket” as blessings, so dad called him blanket as a blessing. Says dads door was locked at Carolwood.
Understood dad locked the room so dad could do skype because he was doing meditation with someone in India.
Says saw IV, oxygen tanks in security booth, also saw them right in front of the house, was not concerned seeing Murray at the house, thought he was there to keep dad healthy.
Dad used to give me few hundreds dollars to give Murray because AEG didn’t pay him. My dad would tell me to give it to him to help him, couple hundred, stack of dollars sometimes didn’t know how much.
Was surprised to see Randy Phillips at the house because dad was not at the house, once he came with Tohme.
Saw Phillips talking to Murray when dad was not there, looks very aggressive to me, dad was at rehearsals.
It was night time, he was grabbing Murray by the elbow and pointing his hands around, I AM SURE IT WAS NIGHT BEFORE DAD DIED
Can’t remember seeing Phillips other times, Prince says he contacted his dad that night Phillips was there.
Prince asked them if they would like anything to eat, and b(r)ought them out chips and salsa, then Phillips was grabbing Murray’s arm again talking to him at the bottom of the stairs, WAS SURPRISED TOHME WAS AT THE HOUSE WITH PHILLIPS.
Hadn’t seen Tohme for a while, felt dad was healthy at the time, but seeing pictures of him now he seemed malnourished.
Some days dad would come downstairs and say he was freezing cold, it was summer, some days he was hot.
Last conversation with dad was on the phone when I told him Randy Phillips was in the house.
Learned something was wrong when was downstairs until there was yelling, I bolted out the room, Kai told me Dr Murray wanted me upstairs, then Alvarez came in, MY DAD WAS HANGING HALF OFF THE BED, HIS EYES WERE ROLLED TO BACK OF HIS HEAD
THEN my sister came upstairs, she was screaming the whole time saying she wants her daddy, (sorry missed ,,,,,,,,,)
Remembers going to memorial, shows picture of Prince, Paris, Blanket on stage, says sister just took the microphone and spoke, wasn’t planned “ever since I was born daddy had been the best father you could imagine, just want to say I love him so much”
Shows picture of Prince, Paris, Blanket in Indiana at a match. Another picture of Prince at children’s hospital with dark glasses on, shows image of Katherine Jackson, Prince, Paris, Blanket. But Prince can’t remember where it’s from, it’s actually from Chinese theatre.
Shows picture of Prince and children, says I wore the same suit my dad wore when he went to that same charity years ago.
Shows image of Prince during “Cast&Crew” interview on E Online. Says I told my aunt I wanted to do something she b(r)ought this to me
Shows picture of Paris, cant remember where taken, says actually it was something to do with Cirque du Soleil
Says Taj Jackson and grandma are present guardians, are doing a great job, but will never be the same.
Effected by fathers loss, cant sleep at night, became emotionally distanced from people.
Wanted to share so much with dad, driving, new girlfriends, excellence in school.
Says he tries to make father proud of him, Paris out of all of us it’s hurt her the hardest, she was my dad Princess,
She definitely dealt with it the wrong way, she’s going through hard times now, my cousin TJ is helping her, we don’t celebrate birthdays, its not the same without him.
Blanket has birthday parties, we like that, right now Blanket doesn’t realize what he has lost, he is still growing up, he doesn’t have my dad to guide him, we are doing the best we can, miss our father a lot, not a day we don’t.
CROSS EXAMINATION BY PUTNAM
I’m just going to ask you couple questions; you talked about your dad paying Conrad Murray? I saw my dad offer him money but Murray wouldn’t take it.
I want to show you your depositions…… but AEG only want to play few lines, but Plaintiff want more lies played for completeness
AEG says we don’t have that part, can we play that first, Judge says well it doesn’t take that long, so AEG attorneys prepare it, but object, are we going to do this all the time, Judge replies let’s take it one at a time!!!
Deposition played follows:
- “Did you see how he paid CM? I saw him couple time. Was it cash at CW? He never took cash, my dad would give us the cash then Dr Murray would only take a portion of it”
Back to live court,
Did your dad pay CM in Vegas? Yes my dad paid him in cash until the contract.
So it was just in Vegas? Yes.
I asked you another time about paying Conrad Murray cash in Vegas or LA. You told me in Vegas he would also give him cash? I can’t remember word per word, but only remember my dad paying him in Vegas
Did you dad pay him in checks? I don’t think so, I didn’t see that.
All the time Conrad Murray treated you in Vegas it was cash? From what I remember yes.
Did your father ever pay Conrad Murray in cash in LA? Not directly, he always had us give it to him, dad would give us couple hundred but CM would only take portion of it.
Why did you dad give it to you, his son as apposed to giving it himself? From what he said that I don’t think Conrad Murray would take money from my dad because he felt bad.
Was it in envelopes? No, cash.
Was it hundred dollars bills? Yes
Was it in a clip? Sometimes it was in band
Rolled up? No flat with rubber band over it
He would ask you to give to Dr Murray? Me or my sister
So he would give you stacks of money for Murray? I wouldn’t call it stacks
How many times? Couple
In your deposition you said ten times? Yes but he only took portion of it couple times
So did this began in Vegas? Yes
You left Vegas prior to Christmas 08? I believe so
When you were in CarolWood house Christmas till your dad’s passing? Yes
You know Kai Chase? Yes chef
She was there, then not there? Yes
Did you have chef in between? I think we did
Was a man? Yes it was
So Kai worked there, then this man, then Kai came back? The man got fired to left, then Kai came back, was month before Kai came back.
Did she go upstairs? No
Did that man chef go upstairs? No
Nurse Lee gave your dad IVs? Yes
On the first floor? Yes
First room to left when you walk in? Yes
Did she go upstairs? No
You mentioned sister Rose? Yes nanny
She came when Grace was let go by your dad? Yes
Did she go upstairs? No
Is it true no boys allowed upstairs? No
Did security allowed upstairs? They never came in the house
Was Dr Murray allowed upstairs? Yes
Shows exhibit plan of house, second floor,
Is that to left your dad’s bedroom, master? Yes
Right up above 2nd bedroom, is that where Conrad Murray treated your dad? Yes
This bedroom had lock on it? Yes
When it was first locked was it when Conrad Murray was treating your dad? No, it was when Dad was meditating
Do you remember saying something different at your deposition? I cant remember
Shows deposition, the following was played:
- “I believe so. How did you know second bed had lock? When we were playing hide and seek but the door was locked”
Back to live court,
Prince says that was a different time. He would lock it for meditations, then would lock it for medication, then it was open, then locked when Conrad Murray was treating him
Is it true your father usually locked that door with Conrad Murray was there with? I didn’t really check.
Did time ever come when you tried to get into that room with your dad? No
Did your sister or brother try to get in there? I don’t know
Was it always locked? I don’t know I only tried it once
You say Phillips was there with another person, you said it was Murray, then you said it was Tohme. You knew Tohme for few years? Yes to all.
You saw Conrad Murray in Vegas? Yes.
This encounter you saw you don’t know what date it was? I’m not sure I think it was night before or two nights before
Do you have any understanding that there was testimony here that Phillips was with your dad at Staples center? No
25th was bad morning, you didn’t see your dad? No
Do you remember telling us at your deposition when you saw this interactions with Phillips, you talked to your dad next morning? I don’t remember saying that.
Plays deposition …… with the following testimony:
- “did you ever tell anyone Randy Phillips was there with Conrad Murray?” “My dad”.
As I told Brian that was one of the occasions prior to his passing.
So this couldn’t have occurred on 24th? No this happened on two occasions
What happened? Randy Phillips was talking to Conrad Murray
You not sure the first time it happened? No
And you don’t remember the second time it happened? Yes I do, it was last night.
How would people get into your home? When AEG people came they were let in by security
PANISH DIRECTS
Did you hear Putnam say your deposition was two hours? No
I’d like to apologize I didn’t know I had to wear a suit that day, laughter in court
So you remember Saturday your deposition started 10.36 am and you took 15 minute break at 11.28 to 11.44, then at 12.23 till 1.04 you were there till 2.24.
Second day you began at 2pm, during school it finished at 5.12
How many pages of questioning did Mr Putnam do? 323
Did they take your sister in? I told Taj Jackson they couldn’t take her
Did she have problems? Yes, she had emotional problems
Do you know who questioned your sister? Mr Putnam.
Where did your sister have to give her deposition? It was supposed to be at Putnam’s office but Taj Jackson petitioned for it to be done here in court.
I want to show you deposition where Mr. Putnam left off, Putnam wants to see it first
Putnam says sure
When Phillips was grabbing the arms of that person do you know who it was? Yes it was Murray, not Tohme, they look completely different
When you were trying to answer Putnam’s question, did he cut you off? Yes
Why did your father give you money to pay Conrad Murray? Because my dad was helping him get by till he got his pay check from AEG
Deposition plays
- “so your dad gave you money for Murray? Yes. Did he pay him with check? I don’t know. Did he give you money to give to Conrad Murray in Vegas? No. Why was he doing it in Carolwood? Something was going on with Murray my dad was trying to help him”
Back to live court
Did Mr Putnam cut off at your deposition too? Yes
Did you see Lee give IV to anyone else in your family? No
What was it for? So he could ..???.. whilst he was going through something in his life
PUTNAM BACK TO CROSS
You came to my office for your deposition? Yes
You came with bunch of security? Just one
You came with your grandma, Taj Jackson? Yes
Do you remember we offered you Saturday? Can’t remember
You were brought upstairs? Yes
Remember there was a big spread laid out? Yes
Do you remember you grandma thanking us? No
You deposition took 2 hours? I’m not sure
Remember you ended because you were tired? Yes
We told you you can come back anytime you wanted? No, I remember we wanted to leave but it continued
The location was chosen by you counsel?
PANISH- I OBJECT YOUR HONOR
I will change..
Your sister’s deposition took place here because you requested it? Yes.
That ended because your sister was tired? I’m not sure
Then that continued at our office? I’m not sure
Do you have an understanding that deposition was in good manner? I don’t know
PANISH BACK
Did Putnam have a huge office? Yes
Was he mean to you? What do you mean, he was acting like a defense lawyer, it was not somewhere I wanted to be
Putnam was not mean to you? I don’t know what that means, I’m not used to that word
PRINCE NOW EXCUSED FOR THE DAY, BUT SUBJECT TO RECALL BY AEG LAWYERS!!!
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rl1noe
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The devotion of TeamMichaelJackson to advocacy work for Michael Jackson was noticed even by the LA Times:
For Michael Jackson fan, covering trial is her duty
Michael Jackson fans who have been attending the AEG-civil trial, from left, Laura Sherwood, Dexter Calderbank, Taaj Malik, and Carolyn Owens-Horton. (Katie Falkenberg / Los Angeles Times)
Taaj Malik has thousands following her on Twitter and visiting her website. She and others are go-to sources for those suspicious about the mainstream media.
BY CORINA KNOLL AND JEFF GOTTLIEB
June 27, 2013She takes two buses to get to the courthouse each day and depends on donations from fans to run her website.
She has no formal training as a journalist but for tens of thousands — maybe multitudes more — she is the oracle for all things Michael.Inside the cramped downtown Los Angeles courtroom each weekday, Taaj Malik furiously taps away at her iPad as the Michael Jackson wrongful-death case unfolds, taking notes for a transcript she will later post on a website crammed with court documents, autopsy reports, links to court exhibits, salutes to Jackson and an occasional plea for money. Thousands visit the website daily.
With nearly 40,000 following her “Team Michael Jackson” Twitter account, the 52-year-old Malik blasts out tweets during breaks and keeps up a running dialogue with followers.
“It was a great day to watch that roach squirm on the stand, Hes adapting many personalities, none r working cause ever1 can see he’s a #LIAR,” she writes as one witness is grilled.
“What a pair of MUPPETS,” she snaps after two ranking music executives testify.
When a follower thanks her for the stream of information from the courtroom, Malik deflects it quickly. “No, dear… Its my duty with Michael and the truth! Dont say thank you!
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The Orange County resident, who ran a housekeeping business until she was injured in a car accident in January, climbs out of bed at 4 a.m. to begin her trek downtown. She is part of a worldwide fan community consumed with the minute details about the King of Pop, fully primed to feast on the latest legal entanglement to invoke his memory.
The wrongful-death trial is playing out in a courtroom with seats for only a handful of observers selected each morning via lottery. Most days the few available slots go quickly and Malik — along with much of the print and television media — is herded off to an overflow room to watch the proceedings on a closed-circuit feed.
There is no televised coverage of the trial, so fans are left to search for what details they can find on Twitter, Facebook and — if they must — the mainstream media. Jackson fan forums and websites have been in full gear since the trial began two months ago.
“Ultimately it’s a thirst for knowledge,” said Pez Greaves of British-based fan club MJ Vibe, which produces a quarterly magazine dedicated to Jackson.
At fan site Positively Michael, a forum was created exclusively for this trial. Volunteer site administrator Lynn Mathis, who is based in Indiana, is not attending the trial but she uploads a mix of articles for visitors to dissect, such as “Was Michael Jackson Really Worth $40 Billion?” and “Rumored use of Michael Jackson body doubles could be raised in trial.”
“We post a lot of news items and perspectives on both sides of all people involved,” she said. “We sort of take the position of do your due diligence, read and make your decisions for yourself. Our guests spike when there’s a trial because we have a reputation of having objective coverage.”
For those suspicious about the mainstream media — and many Jackson fans seem to be — someone like Malik is a go-to source. For some, her tweets serve as real-time dispatches from the civil trial.
Although Malik has her critics, she receives praise from those who consider her an ally in the ongoing fight to protect Jackson’s reputation. Katherine Jackson, the pop singer’s mother, knows Malik though she is unfamiliar with her tweets or Web page because she does not use the Internet, a family attorney said.
Malik lives off a legal settlement from the car accident — she said back injuries from the accident left her unable to continue work as a housekeeper — and her mother and an aunt send her regular allowances.
She created her website in January 2011 when preliminary hearings for the Conrad Murray case were taking place. Her mother, who lives in Britain, gave her $30,000 to buy and post the court transcripts for those hearings. Malik later sent in daily transcripts of the trial, which ended with the doctor convicted of involuntary manslaughter for giving Jackson a fatal dose of propofol, a powerful anesthetic typically reserved for surgical procedures.
The current civil trial, which promises to offer a panorama of Jackson’s final days, feels special to Malik.
“This one means everything to me,” she said, “more than Conrad Murray because the charges were an insult. I mean, involuntary manslaughter? This trial is definitely bringing out the truth.”
Malik was born in Pakistan and she lived there until she was a teen, when she moved to Staffordshire in central England with her family. She later married a fellow Jackson fan (he got the albums and CDs when they divorced).
She saw Jackson for the first time in 1988 at a sold-out concert at Wembley Stadium in London. Malik said she was so stretched for money she sewed herself a white shirt and fake leather jacket to fit in with the crowd.
“I can still see that concert, the dancing,” she recalled. “It was empowering.”
She caught a glimpse of Jackson again years later when he arrived in England to accept an award, a moment that is also chiseled in her memory. He arrived in a black limousine with guards striding alongside the vehicle and then stepped out into the evening. “Tears started coming out of my eyes,” she said.
By the time she arrived in the U.S. in 2009 , she had five children and a second marriage that was falling apart. Weeks later, Jackson died and the fan in Malik took over. She drove to the Holmby Hills mansion where Jackson had been found unresponsive in his bedroom, and then to the Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center where he was pronounced dead.
Her devotion to Jackson’s legacy — “advocacy,” she calls it — has poured forth ever since, earning her followers around the world and a support team in the courthouse.
“I only rely on Taaj’s website. It’s unbiased news,” said 37-year-old Dana Brenklin, a film production assistant who discusses the trial on a radio show she hosts on the Web.
Michael Jackson arrives at the Santa Barbara County courthouse with his mother, Katherine, in May 2005, during his trial on child-molestation charges. (Matthew Simmons) More photos
Brenklin shows up for the trial most days, joining a small community of Jackson fans who band together at the courthouse to discuss the case and greet the matriarch of the Jackson family with hugs when she arrives. One day they all sported black T-shirts with Katherine Jackson’s face and the words, “We support you.”
They see it as vital — and consider themselves lucky — to bear witness to the case without it being filtered through traditional print and television reporters.
In the Murray trial, the defendant was the Las Vegas doctor who treated Jackson. This case introduced a new villain: the music industry.
“Did u tell any1esle Mr JAXN is paralyzed self loathing mess? May have said it 2few people in my firm,” Malik tweeted as a top music executive was quizzed on the witness stand about a colorful email he wrote describing Jackson’s erratic behavior before a 1999 London news conference.
A full collection of emails between the people overseeing Jackson’s comeback tour, in which the performer is described as a “freak” and “in need of a shrink,” is posted on Malik’s Web page, with a promise of more to come.
For people like Julia Thomas, a 40-year-old high school office administrator who obsessively trolls the Internet for Jackson news and reads Malik’s tweets for updates, the trial is revealing Jackson as a victim of those he trusted most.
“We want to know what happened at the house, at the rehearsals, how they were treating him,” said Thomas, who lives near Rialto.
Still, the civil proceedings have left fans torn over the lawsuit filed by Katherine Jackson and her grandchildren accusing AEG of being complicit in the entertainer’s death. Some see AEG as the cold conglomerate that mercilessly pushed a frail, aging man to perform while others see the suit as an attempt to squeeze more profits from Jackson’s stardom.
For all those who faithfully follow Malik or visit her Web page, there are others who see her as a fan obsessed. Her brother and sister are among them.
“They think I’m crazy, that I need to leave it alone and get on with my life.”
Her mother, she said, feels differently.
“She knows I’m all about the truth.”
Vindicating Michael 
They need to look at the morning hrs of 6/25. Murray folllowed AEG´s orders to organise the life-insurance, he was 100% obedient o AEG and may well have been texting to taylor re the insurance while Michael was dying.There is no need to believe one word of what he told police about that am ,or what he told anybody else. For sure 2 minutes would not have mattered.When it really mattered he was following AEG´s orders. .They are trying to pare it down to a technicality=hiring ,and like a creditcard, rather than looking at the simple truth.
And the drycleaners,mentioned a lot, but nobody remembers when an expensive vase was broken at Michaels.
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And they laughed at him, for the symptoms caused by lack of sleep for a prolonged period of time, by the aid of Propofol q night.”They laughed him to scorn” a citation from the bible.
I don´t know what more AEG is expecting.They are on a massive crusade via the old pressreleases.20-30 years back,smearing Michaels name..
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OMG, this neuroma animation even hurts by just looking at it. I really wonder how Michael managed his life when counting together all the problems he had – serious health problems, accusations, legal problems, betrayals by friends, media lies, tour contracts to fulfil despite sickness, the show must go on, being pressured by business associates and insurers, and pain, pain, pain…
What they did to him already during the Dangerous tour within these 3 months from Bangkok to Mexico City was already incredible… keeping him going to go on stage until it definitely was no longer possible… how could he get 50 years old with this pressure?
Yes, thank God we have Drs. Ceisler and Schnoll who are complementing one another perfectly to give us the whole picture about Michaels health problems.
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“It was only now I heard that the scalp surgery and corrections had resulted in a neurinoma, that on top of all else MJ had to suffer” – kaarin
Yes, on top of everything else. What Michael had to go through in his life is impossible to imagine. We cannot imagine even a fraction of it, let alone the whole. And the worst part of it is while he was suffering so hard all of them were laughing.
It is real martyrdom.
I’ve looked up neuroma and they say it is “a scar of nerve tissue that forms on the branch of a sensory nerve after an injury to that nerve”. The pain of it is like this (the animation is from a medical site), is described as a “severe sudden jolt of electricity” and it is CONSTANT.
Dr. Schnoll says it never goes away:
http://www.footdoc.ca/www.FootDoc.ca/Website%20Neuromas.htm
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Yes, I remember now. Klein appeared on the Larry King show and discussed Michael’s conditions, the post-burn scalp treatments, the vitiligo (which he diagnosed and confirmed) and the lupus. Boy, Michael got hit with the triple whammy of chronic pain. Add to that the long-term emotional distress he suffered from the tabloid proctologists, and the betrayals by those he trusted, and it’s a wonder Michael Jackson didn’t go stark, raving mad. Yet, his salvation and comfort were the God-Given talents he used to create, perform, engage, unite and inspire on a scale heretofore unseen by the world — up to and including his final hours on Earth.
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“Now 2 great specialists have given evidence; Dr.Czeisler on sleep and insomnia and Dr. Schnoll on drug addiction-dependency.It would be great to hear these 2 discuss MJ´s problems together.
Kaarin, these two specialists are the best I’ve ever seen in their respective fields and it is a combination of their two testimonies which is so impressive. What one cannot explain the other does.
The addiction expert Dr. Schnoll says the symptoms Michael was showing looked like a withdrawal from Demerol but were not Demerol-related as the timing of those symptoms did not coincide with the expected withdrawal from Demerol injections.
And the sleep specialist Dr. Czeisler says that exactly the same symptoms may be the result of the damage done to the brain due to Michael’s lack of sleep which were, alas, indicative of the final stages of Michael’s complete and total insomnia and his imminent death in case no urgent help was provided.
Let me stress again that these symptoms would have been there irrespective of the use or non-use of propofol. They are related to lack of sleep and not propofol usage.
So when everyone around Michael thought that he was suffering from a withdrawal of Demerol, his real problem was a huge brain damage due to lack of sleep. They only looked the same while their nature was totally different. And we learn this from the testimonies of these two great scientists.
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“The multiple procedures Michael Jackson had on his scalp over time after the fire were gruesome as described by one of his doctors — Klein I think although he did not perform them but saw the results. Inserting a cap, scalp stretching and cutting off the excess. Sounds like something from the Middle Ages.” – Judith Mason
It was Arnold Klein. He put a stop to all those operations on Michael’s scalp. This is the real reason for his feud with the plastic surgeon Steven Hoefflin.
Klein spoke about it on very many occasions each time shaking with fury when he was talking of those useless operations. They were useless because Michael had discoid lupus and any operation on his skin resulted only in more scars and contractions. Hoefflin cut them out, but this brought about only more scarring. It was a vicious circle, and at one point Klein said “enough is enough”.
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The multiple procedures Michael Jackson had on his scalp over time after the fire were gruesome as described by one of his doctors — Klein I think although he did not perform them but saw the results. Inserting a cap, scalp stretching and cutting off the excess. Sounds like something from the Middle Ages.
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Now 2 great specialists have given evidence; Dr.Czeisler on sleep and insomnia and Dr. Schnoll on drug addiction-dependency.It would be great to hear these 2 discuss MJ´s problems together.-It was only now I heard that the scalp surgery and corrections had resulted in a neurinoma, that on top of all else MJ had to suffer
Sorry for multiple short comments, but this library computer is continually interrupting re time limits..
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Myself I have at this point a bit of confusion between “hired” and “contolled”.Murray was certainly controllled at a time most critical.
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I gave some scanty info re the movie I recommended. It is from 2009, maybe can be found as rental disc. The name in Norweigheigian is “Rottenetter, in swedish Ratnights, so in english could be Rat Nights. It is about the total amorality of big business including murder. A good and welllmade movie,.AEG´s spirit 100%.Dir. Arlid Ostin, Actors:Christoffer Rudbeck, Maria Brinchs….
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Wade is shameless to drag his deceased father in his mess.
I think the shock effect of his allegations and the tabloid stories are wearing off.
Even the general public will see that things do not add up and will get bored. That is the good part of it. The bad part is that Radar Online trying to get a piece of the cake has put out a true/not true list about MJ . To an uninformed reader it may seem credible because it debunks most of the mirror/baressi fabrications.
But it also has half truths and complete lies, e.g. JCs description of Michaels private parts. And a half truth is still a lie especially if its the most damaging of all the lies told about Michael Jackson.
@ Nan , great find that there must have been more ‘characteristics’ than a ‘spot’ which was an educated guess that anyone who knew of Michaels viiligo could make.
By the way, from RCs book, EC had injected Michael with painmedication in his behind because of a terrible headache Michael had when he was at the Chandlers home. So he could have had first hand knowledge of how Michaels private parts looked. I dont believe it was, but If JC s description was close, it was with the help of none other than his own father.
This is so ridiculous that we have to dig into a mans privacy to put an end to the lies.
I am looking forward to the day we can put this episode behind us.
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Wade saying his father killed himself back in 2002 over the abuse is baloney.I thought he hadnt told anyone about this until recently. Hence his supposed breakdown
I could defend MJ in this case , there are so many holes in it.
It is obvious.
Pulling the same stunt as Feldman, using the press.
Except this time there isnt a shock value to it, since we have all heard these disgusting accusations before .So I would hope the lawyers running the show wont pay him off to go away , due to business revenue , like last time.
I hesitate to even talk about these accusations , or past accusations, since wade could possibly change parts of his story , to overcome the research., done , to clear MJ name
I wouldnt be surprised if he isnt reading some mj fan blogs , after all , he has nothing else going on in his life.
He supposedly is too damaged to work,PFT
But since a tweet by the team Michael Jackson woman, states that a MJ had needed pain med in bangcock in 93, but he couldn’t give it to him , because his buttocks was so abscessed,he had to give it to him in IV
That just caught my eye.
So these young boys he is supposedly accosting, I would think Wade or JC would know what agony MJ was in , that he had abscesses on his rear part, and that Jordan didnt describe any abscesses, that I am aware of.
This doctor makes it seem like he must have been having these injections for some time.
He also says he needed some for a deposition in Mexico due to the Chandler accusations, but i think he is wrong.I thin the deposition was for someone saying they wrote one of his songs.
You might think that would be something of interest to the police who were checking out mj torso and behind and stuff due to those accusations.
That he isnt circumcised, Jordan got the description wrong , and MJ had evidence of a lot injections in his buttocks , probably scarring ., would be pretty easy to describe
I also notice when those photos are talked about , they never mention JC describing the rest of his body, his backside correctly either
So he got the front and back wrong..
All this ugly stuff is obvious it is AEG probably paying Baressi to put out tabloid stories, and they have probably formed an alliance with wade and his lawyers
It is just so ugly
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rl8bqc
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Good that Paris is in good hands.The only strange thing that surprised me was that it stated she was in “rehab”. No,she is in a psychiatric in-patient unit for adolescents.Apart from therepy these kind of units have art,music, gym and other nice occupational and therepeutic activities for the teens.They are well staffed with professionals who can deal with a variety of problems and for sure no bullyinng is permitted.I presume she will continue with psychotherapy after she is discharged.And she will certainly find friends there too.
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Come to think of it ,it is most important that it be excluded that WD has not inherited this condition or illness..Of what nature were his one or as sometimes reported 2 mental breakdowns? Naturally his therapist or psychiatrist is not in a position of giving any information.It is strange though that he is going to stop working following a great career, and moving to live in Hawaii. Does he maybe know that his future may be marred by episodes of this illness?Why become a pensioner at such an early age?.Bipolar illness can manifest itself in childhood,but this is rare.His age , beginning of or early middleage is much more common for first episodes. Time will tell.-It is indeed strange,in 2008 he with his wife and children had a get together with MJ and his children.And all the time he remembered according to what he has said now.
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If WR´s father was so worried about his son´s relatioship with MJ why did he not talk with his wife or exwife?He could very well have come over to US for this reason.If he had a bipolar 1 disorder I will again point out that it in itself carries a high suicide risk,up to 20%. There are now new meds coming out that help with better contol of symptoms and when well treated most people can lead a pretty normal life.The problem lies therein that the early stages of a manic episode often feels fantastic; a lot of energy, great ideas ect.. If not controlled this goes on to a full manic phase.Very troubesome indeed.
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Thanks so much for the post Sina.Can no one sue these papers for such slimy reporting? This is utterly DISGUSTING!!
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http://charlesthomsonjournalist.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/mirror-publishes-another-fraudulent.html
Mirror publishes another fraudulent Jackson FBI story
Sina, thank you very much for informing us about it. I’ve immediately turned into a post. Charles Thomson is analyzing the lie with the FBI documents in his hands and openly says that it looks like an intentional lie. I’m happy that he says it so openly, because this is indeed not the right time for beating about the bush.
I am happy that he says: “At this stage, I feel that serious questions need to be asked about what is really going on here.”
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http://charlesthomsonjournalist.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/mirror-publishes-another-fraudulent.html
Mirror publishes another fraudulent Jackson FBI story
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Surprisingly, I found a truthful article in the same Mirror. It is about Paris Jackson and it says that it was the horrible things said about her father that pushed her to the edge. Just as I expected. You will find this article in the Voice of reason page in the main menu:
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another sunday and another load of crap: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/jackson-child-abuse-probe-halted-2033688 – Jan
Jan, this is why I was suggesting that everyone – fans and non-fans alike – should ask FBI to release a statement regarding those alleged “files” or provide the documents (with redactions if necessary). The Mirror keeps writing incredible things and says that it is in the “files” but does not show anything. SHOW US THE DOCUMENTS and we will decide for ourselves.
It isn’t freedom of speech – it is freedom to lie without having to bear any responsibility for it.
Here is Mirror’s latest BS – I am posting it here so that you don’t have to go there, comments are off anyway. It will also immediately go into the Tabloid Trash Bin. It says “The Reagan document is part of a 333-page file made public by the FBI “, but there was no such document there! I will try to post the pdf FBI files in the documents section so that everyone can check it themselves.
As to all those fictional “victims” we have several posts about them. The shortest is this: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/06/21/phantom-victims-of-mj/
Another one is here – it is about the case allegedly going back to the 80s, which is complete fiction from beginning to end: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/daniel-kapons-accusations-against-michael-jackson-and-the-beautiful-role-the-news-of-the-world-played-in-it/
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another sunday and another load of crap:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/jackson-child-abuse-probe-halted-2033688
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just saw this: http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/07/michael-jackson-accuser-claims-dad-destroyed-by-alleged-abuse/ – Jan
First of all, let me post it here so that no one has to go to the tabloids. The news is published on Radar Online and comes from Splash News which is well-known to us now:
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just saw this:
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/07/michael-jackson-accuser-claims-dad-destroyed-by-alleged-abuse/
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You’re absolutely right Helena. We’re all united in this war.
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“ela, I’m not offering mere theories. These are FACTS: The Cascio-Porte Tracks Timeline: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ct10np“ – lopsided man
I think this is not the right time to go into the discussion of those tracks. This matter is number 65 or even 165 on the list of our priorities now if you understand what I mean.
It’s wartime now, and the war is waged against Michael Jackson and his family by Wade Robson, tabloids and AEG which is most probably standing behind all this mess.
In times like this “wagons are circled” and all forces are pooled against the common threat, and time and energy is directed into those spheres that matter.
The tracks do NOT matter at the moment. During peacetime they will, but not now. This is my big request to all of you – please stay away from minor things like that now.
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ela, I’m not offering mere theories. These are FACTS:
The Cascio-Porte Tracks Timeline: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ct10np
@CascioFiasco: https://twitter.com/CascioFiasco
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In one of the videos shown in the courtroom Michael asks Blanket: What is family?
Blanket : “You” Michael : ‘Me, and people who LOVE you..”
What an incredibly beautiful thing to teach a child of what family means! It just show what an amazing person Michael was! And this is what he believed in- to consider everyone his family as long as the person loved him- irrespective of race, caste, religion and colour- and he teaching this to his kid despite ALL that hurt and is still misunderstood? The world is crazy and blind !
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Lopsided man,
I guess Vogel says the same thing in his tweets/radio “Until a forensic analysis or some other concrete evidence proves otherwise that conspiracy theory doesn’t hold up for me”.
I wasn’t there I’m no forensic expert and the songs are different, yes to all. they are controversial they don’t stand up to standards of MJ they are not perfect they have obviously been altered to be fit for the album and so on…
but then again we have forensic experts that say it’s MJ we have Bruce Swedin who says it’s MJ even QJ said that he thought it was MJ. Prince said he saw his father singing these songs in Cascio’s house.
I’m NOT a fan of these conspiracy theories against estate of MJ. I don’t think finding a forensic expert is sth difficult. if I were Katherine/Taj/Jackie Jackson I would bring this to the court not my twitter page, and then I would prove my case in the court!
These songs might be authentic or not. I don’t know I follow the proofs. okay? SO:
“Until a forensic analysis or some other concrete evidence proves otherwise that conspiracy theory doesn’t hold up for me”.
They have a proof? evidence? GREAT! bring them in court for god’s sake. so tired of these conspiracy theories and need a piece of truth. I would be at courthouse to support any Jackson who would want to protect legacy of MJ… just show me the proof. No More Theories. Thank you.
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“Oh the Cascio tracks agian… The Jackson family could hire sb to check the tracks, huh?” – ela
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Thanks for the reply, ela.
It’s far too easy to use the Jackson family try to dismiss a point. Just look at the MJJ Community crowd re: the AEG wrongful death suit. This kind of argument is losing steam real fast.
This isn’t about the Jacksons for me, as they’re not the only ones who question the authenticity of the tracks: Jason Malachi’s former manager Tony Kurtis, Charles Thomson, Cory Rooney, Jennifer Batten, singer Darren Hayes – formerly of Savage Garden a big MJ fan, Chucky Klapow dancer in This Is It. In addition, there’s Jackie Jackson (who has worked with the Esate on projects and says he and John McClain warned Branca and Weitzman not to include the Cascio-Porte tracks), Taj Taryll & TJ. none of these people can be dismissed as knee-jerk MJ Estate critics.
Even the biggest defenders of the songs (Cascios and Teddy Riley) always conceded that there was something different about these tracks
Yes, I read the Joe Vogel article you quoted. I also have his book. That’s why I used the word “anymore” – as in, ‘he’s since had a change of heart’ regarding the songs.
Joe Vogel was on Rev Catherine Gross’ Blog Talk internet radio show “A Place in Your Heart” in May 13, 2011. About 50 minutes into it, he’s asked about the Cascio/Porte controversy.
Joe Vogel admitted having mixed feeling about the MICHAEL album.
He said he never got to talk to the Cascios about the songs for his book (though he did reach out to them). Vogel added that he didn’t know a lot about the origin of the songs. He wasn’t able to trace their history, like with other songs like ‘Hollywood Tonight’.
Vogel would later say in interviews with MJFC & on his Twitter feed that he had “learned a lot since then (his original reviews of ‘MICHAEL’). My view now is that they def sound strange and more transparency is needed.”
Furthermore, we were promised evidence to support the Cascio-Porte tracks, but so far we’ve had no handwritten lyrics (although all of these songs were purportedly written with MJ), and no outtakes from the recording sessions.
Aren’t you in any way curious as to why that is?
This is about the integrity of Michael’s body of work, which he poured his heart and soul into all of his life. This is not a trivial matter at all.
But you don’t need to take my word for it. You can do your own research:
The Cascio-Porte Tracks Timeline: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ct10np
@CascioFiasco: https://twitter.com/CascioFiasco
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I understand Helena, the amount of news on MJ is just so much and I’m sure you make lots of sacrifices for MJ and fans. It’s completely okay if you leave some comments unanswered. If readers on this blog/twitter have common sense , they would not expect you to answer every one of the tweets/comments. I’m a blogger my self, I always translate MJ news to other language and it never ends it goes on and on for hours, I’m doing it for 10 yrs. but well I’m supposed to do it and I LOVE what I do and also LOVE what you do, I completely understand you 🙂 Much love
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“I appreciate that you payed attention to my question and made it clear for me. well, I support the estate because I believe they are doing great. MJ had 4 wills and in all of them we see the name “John Branca” that’s why I support him.” – ela
Ela, if you and other readers get the impression that I pay attention to only some comments I need to apologize for creating this impression. No, I read absolutely all comments and pay attention to all of them, only my biggest problem is that I do not have time to answer everyone and at once. I often postpone some answers until a later time hoping I will have an opportunity to do it later, but this opportunity often never comes because something more urgent arises. There were a lot of great comments which I would like to retrieve from the past, but it is too mammoth a task.
Actually now I will have to leave again without answering others, as all that fight with trolls has taken too much of my strength. Those on Radaronline keep erasing my comments and I had to repeat them again and again. Futile work of course, but who knows?
“I had no idea if you had made this clear before, so forgive me if it was a repetitive question for you.”
No one actually asked me about it, and I am glad that you did.
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“I absolutely don’t accept AEG because I see their devilish intentions” – Helena
same here Helena, I once again appreciate what you do, the truth must be heard. the verdict might be guilty or not, but in my eyes AEG is sh*t and I say guilty!
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Lopsided man
This is what Vogel wrote about those tracks: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-vogel/is-michael-really-michael_b_791987.html
“In addition, the vocals, particularly on a couple of the “Cascio tracks,” don’t always measure up to Jackson’s typical strength and vitality, leading some to label them as “fake.” Until a forensic analysis or some other concrete evidence proves otherwise that conspiracy theory doesn’t hold up for me–especially after hearing the final album versions on very good speakers.” _ Joe Vogel
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“- The Estate is not Michael Jackson. It’s an entity that holds Michael’s assets and controls his businesses. The executors – Branca, McClain, Katz, Weitzman – aren’t Michael Jackson either. Our unending loyalty to him doesn’t extend to them.
– Passing off songs performed by an impersonator (recordings that were registered within 48 HOURS of Michael’s passing) is very fraudulent, not to mention a slap in the face to Michael as an artist [BTW, Even Joe Vogel doesn’t believe in the authenticity of the Cascio Porte tracks, anymore].” Lopsided man
They are NOT MJ, of course NOT!
Oh the Cascio tracks agian… The Jackson family could hire sb to check the tracks, huh?
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I appreciate that you payed attention to my question and made it clear for me. well, I support the estate because I believe they are doing great. MJ had 4 wills and in all of them we see the name “John Branca” that’s why I support him.
I just needed to know your opinion about this matter cause I know you to be a reasonable and honest bloger. You share your info with us and it’s so wonderful of you.
I haven’t read everything on this blog so I had no idea if you had made this clear before, so forgive me if it was a repetitive question for you.
I too appreciate what every fan does for the global MJ family whether it’s Malik or anyone else. But I don’t support/appreciate her actions against the estate of MJ as I believe it has an odd effect on both MJ legacy and fan community.
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“That “being at the drycleaners” to prove his whereabouts comes up every now and then. Can that be proven for 6/25:th? Or can it be proven that it was RP`s habit to go to the dryclaeners himself on a more or less regular basis? Did he just use it for 6/25:th?. I have no idea of his income, but could he not hire some household help?” – kaarin
To give you an idea of his income let me remind you that he is President and CEO of AEG Live. I don’t know the figure of course, but think that he could very well afford household help. This “drycleaners” to prove his whereabouts indeed comes up too often and now no longer looks like simple drycleaners but more like an alibi he carefully prepared for himself.
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“Why do you support Taaj Malik? she is against the estate of MJ referring to their actions as fraudulent. I don’t get that!” –Ela
I support the truth. If Taaj Malik is supplying all of us with invaluable information I will surely support her because the truth contained in those documents benefits us all. And her efforts in this respect are absolutely heroic. Going there every day and sending us those tweets.. and then typing all those transcripts.. or buying them with all the money she manages to collect… There is so much effort going into this work that this alone deserves a lot of respect – no matter how different our opinions on the Estate are.
As regards the Estate our understanding of the situation is still different, but time and transcripts will show whose position is more accurate. I appreciate the Estate executors for the great work they are doing for Michael and restoring his finances. As to their role in this horrid AEG business I keep an open mind and am just registering the facts being disclosed to us now. When we have a full picture there will be time to make some conclusions. I think that at this moment it is too early to pass judgement.
I am a realist and know that sometimes people have to go on compromises. And that they also make mistakes. What is important is whether there is or there isn’t any malicious intent behind these mistakes. This is what is crucial to me, while for many others the mere fact that a mistake was made is already an outrage.
I absolutely don’t accept AEG because I see their devilish intentions, but the intentions of the Estate lawyers were and are different.
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“Why do you support Taaj Malik? she is against the estate of MJ referring to their actions as fraudulent. I don’t get that!” – ela
2 points:
– The Estate is not Michael Jackson. It’s an entity that holds Michael’s assets and controls his businesses. The executors – Branca, McClain, Katz, Weitzman – aren’t Michael Jackson either. Our unending loyalty to him doesn’t extend to them.
– Passing off songs performed by an impersonator (recordings that were registered within 48 HOURS of Michael’s passing) is very fraudulent, not to mention a slap in the face to Michael as an artist [BTW, Even Joe Vogel doesn’t believe in the authenticity of the Cascio Porte tracks, anymore].
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Why do you support Taaj Malik? she is against the estate of MJ referring to their actions as fraudulent. I don’t get that!
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What I really mean is that RP could have arranged to show up at the drycleaners for an alibi.
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That “being at the drycleaners” to prove his whereabouts comes up every now and then.
Can that be proven for 6/25:th? Or can it be proven that it was RP`s habit to go to the dryclaeners himself on a more or less regular basis?Did he just use it for 6/25:th?. I have no idea of his income, but could he not hire some household help?
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Absolutely so. And Hence a doctor should never overlook one’s moral responsibilities towards his patients, who are so helplessly dependent on him. I feel that all of Michael’s doctors who had been administering wrong treatment to him over the years are just as guilty as Conrad Murray.
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I recall a Larry King interview with Dr. Klein when Klein described the very gruesome scalp stretching procedures Michael endured after the Pepsi fire. NOTE: Klein did not perform the procedures but saw the results on Michael’s head. You probably have the interview filed away in your archives. Those operations were truly appalling and sounded like something out of 18th Century medicine and resulted in Jackson living with constant pain and headaches.
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Guys, I am happy to say that the efforts of TeamMichaelJackson have not gone unnoticed and even the mainstream media is looking up to what they are doing. Here is an article from the LA Times about their work. It is great to see the team:
P.S. I’ve included the article into the post.
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Unfortunately the batteries in my computer are running low, so I have very little time left (hope to be later with you today).
Here is the article by Alan Duke about Prince’s testimony. Every little detail is precious here. Look at this one – when Prince called his father and said that those two guys were on their house Michael asked his son to offer them food and drinks! Oh my God, the worlds Michael and those AEG beasts were living in were like poles apart. These bullies were killing him and Michael and his son were polite and civil to them…
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“We know what RP testified, but can he corroborate this testimony of his total whereabouts (his comings and goings) on the night before Jackson died? I hope this will be cleared up in court.”
Jolie, I hope very much that it will be cleared up in this court. I think no one has ever wondered about Randy Phillips’s whereabouts on the night/morning of June 24/25th, and the police surely never looked as the mere idea of looking in that direction was “ridiculous”. At the time of Murray’s trial all forces were thrown against Murray, and not a single question – not a single one! – was allowed about AEG.
I remember my amazement and fury at seeing David Walgren objecting to even innocent questions to Randy Phillips when Chernoff was examining him – “Did you know Dr. Tohme?” “At what hotel did you meet?”, etc. Not a single question was allowed then and it looked extremely strange.
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Exactly. But it seems to me that patients are always in a trusting position towards their doctors. It is the natural element of their profession – to be trusted.
And patients cannot be held responsible for the treatment provided to them by doctors. Holding patients responsible for what doctors do them would be turning things completely upside down. The patient cannot be responsible for the unsuccessful operation a surgeon does on him, and the same goes for all people in the medical profession.
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“wasn’t there a report that all landlines were disconnected in the days leading up to the 25th? “ – Helen-Marie
During Murray’s trial I remember them discussing that the landline telephone was not working, but at the time the impression it produced was that it was the way Michael wanted it. Okay, even if he wanted it that way I’m sure that Prince had a mobile telephone and a direct way of communicating with his dad.
As to Phillips’s whereabouts it always sounded strange (and a little funny) to me that Randy Phillips repeatedly said that he learned of the trouble with Michael when he (Phillips) was at the dry-cleaners.
It was that unnecessary detail which was actually absolutely not needed for each of his interviews unless Phillips was specially conveying to the public the idea that at that moment he was in a public place and had a alibi, so to say.
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“Alan Duke of CNN reported in his article that Prince said “he called his father from the security guard shack telephone to let him know Phillips was there.” The security guard shack was outside of the house.” Helen-Marie and Susanne
Oh girls, so then Prince must have witnesses to his call which will finalize the matter of the date of that call. Indeed, this is a very dramatic turn to the events.
And is it really true that all landlines were disconnected to Carolwood in the days before June 25th? The very least it can mean is that they were cutting off Michael from the outside world and reducing the possibility of his communicating with anyone. No one was to know that his condition was bad. AEG was working on getting the insurance, so it was crucial for no sign of his bad health to be leaked into the outside world. Big money was at stake, you know.
And the above is only a relatively mild variant of what that cutting off the telephone lines could mean.
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“a report that all landlines to CW disconnected in the days leading up to 6/25.”Ominous. Can that be proven? I am sorry for the mess with my comments, but this library computer will often not forward them. And this is such a dramatic turn, for the better, in the AEG trial.
I have to keep it short as I am cut off at intervals.
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Very dramatic turns in the tral. Fells much more hopeful now.Tank you helena and all bloggers!
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@Helen-Marie:
Alan Duke of CNN reported in his article that Prince said “he called his father from the security guard shack telephone to let him know Phillips was there.”
The security guard shack was outside of the house.
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I hope for this too Jolie, as many tabloids are doing their best to report that it’s not true following an AEG interview after the court session had adjourned. I would have thought that it would have been recorded in the Security log book at Carolwood’s gatehouse, unless of course that page is now conveniently missing.
The Jackson lawyers are most definitely on the case and would not have let Prince’s statements stand alone knowing fully that they would be scrutinised.
Remember also that Prince was only 12 at the time and would have been surrounded by adults seeing who came and went. Telephone call logs could also back up Prince’s claims, although, thinking about it, wasn’t there a report that all landlines were disconnected in the days leading up to the 25th? Therefore how did he call his Dad? Did he have a mobile?
I’m sure we will see more evidence to back up this startling claim.
With love.
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Whoever heard of the situation when the patient is more concerned of the doctor’s well being than the doctor is of the patient’s? Given the sensitive, kind and magnanimous soul that he was, it seems that Michael did not mind Conrad Murray’s fees of $150,000 a month only because he felt that it would improve the doctor’s economic well being. How many of us would have done that, even if we were to be millionaires? Michael was just too trusting. He believed all his doctors completely. Hence he allowed himself to be subjected to the untold pain of the ‘balloon treatment’ for his scalp, without any complaints or questions. Hence when the Defence Attorney asked Dr Rogers if any other doctor, other than Dr. Murray, contributed to MJ’s death, Dr. Rogers replied “Yes, other doctors contributed to his death”. Michael had been subjected to wrong treatment over the years.
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Thanks very much for this report. It is interesting to see how such a teenager can be so concise and sharp and confident in his answers to attorneys. Yes, no, etc. When one compares them to Phillips’s replies that are being so evasive, one can’t help wondering who is hiding what…
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Can’t thank you enough Helena for bringing this to us and of course the Team Michael Jackson is doing a great job.
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What a true team effort! Team Michael Jackson and Vindicating Michael! Thank you both for streamlining the process for the truth to be so easily accessible to the fans and to the world! All TMJ’s tweets are far superior to the news stories, and even journalists’ tweets. Journalists can only give the gist of the testimony and so many times important, pivotal facts are left out. TMJ and Helena – thank you so much for all your efforts! And of course it is for the love of the truth and for the love of Michael Jackson. God is vindicating his son. God is answering our prayers! This is such a wonderful process to behold…
But don’t stop praying. It is not over yet…The comfort for me is that the jurors are the only ones to decide, and they are there in person, hearing and seeing testimony everyday. But from what I can see, the plaintiffs (Jacksons) have given a lot more clarity about AEG “hiring and supervising” Murray. Even though no written contract was signed by all, the hiring was implicit, and AEG concretely took Murray “into the fold”. Murray was pressured by AEG. And more than one expert in court said this was a clear “conflict of interest”.
Also, I hope that it can be proven by the plaintiffs (Jacksons) that Prince’s testimony is true re: Phillips and Thome being at MJ home the night before Jackson died…can RP & TT prove their whereabouts on that night? We know what RP testified, but can he corroborate this testimony of his total whereabouts (his comings and goings) on the night before Jackson died? I hope this will be cleared up in court.
fyi…I thought I read that Anthony MacCartney from AP is designated by the court to be in courtroom Monday, Wednesday, and Fridays. ABC7Courts is designated by the court to be in the courtroom Tuesday and Thursdays. Could someone please confirm my recollection?
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Prince handled himself very well under stressful questioning. He’s certainly a credit to his Father. Thank you for posting this extended version of his testimony.
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Great article. MJ did a wonderful job with his children. Prince is so intelligent and mellow. I love Prince.
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