DYLAN FARROW’S OPEN LETTER ABOUT WOODY ALLEN Reveals the Twenty Years of Media Double Standards
The second part of the post on Demerol will have to wait as very, very interesting news has come from Dylan Farrow about her stepfather Woody Allen. The 28 year-old Dylan says she was sexually assaulted by her stepfather almost twenty years ago when she was 7 years old.
Considering that a similar allegation is probably awaiting us in June this year (when Wade Robson’s lies about Michael Jackson may be resumed) it will be interesting to look into Dylan’s story to educate ourselves a bit on the subject before the Wade Robson wave comes upon us again.
Making judgment on Woody Allen even on the basis of a powerful letter like Dylan’s will contradict the basic law principle of “innocent until proven guilty”, so the only thing we can really do is tell the girl’s story and focus on the reaction to it from the media which, especially in comparison with what they did to Michael Jackson, will strike you by its incredibly considerate attitude towards Woody Allen as one of the Hollywood pillars.
The comparison of the manner in which the similar stories of Michael Jackson and Woody Allen were handled by the media will be all the more easier as the seven-year-old Dylan accused her stepfather of abuse right at the time when Jordan Chandler accused Michael Jackson of the same.
Dylan’s story started in 1992 and was over in February 1994 when the investigation against Woody Allen was closed without bringing criminal charges, and Michael’s case started in 1993 and the police investigation ended in September 1994 without bringing criminal charges against him either.
However this is where the similarity between the two cases ends as all the rest was completely different.
DYLAN’S STORY
When Maureen Orth (who seemed to be writing about all child abuse allegations at the time) wrote a story about Woody Allen and his adoptive daughter Dylan, she diligently repeated Mia Farrow’s accusations against her ex-partner Woody but nevertheless tried to keep a balanced view of the case.
Of course her article about Woody Allen was a far cry from her series about Michael Jackson which grew more biased and nastier with each new consecutive piece.
However even her much quieter narration about Woody Allen is still holding many curious details of Dylan Farrow’s case who at the time of the events was just seven years old.
Orth says that Woody Allen’s love for his step-daughter was so intense that he literally couldn’t take his hands off her.
The intensity of this relationship was once observed by a child psychologist, Dr. Susan Coates who was in the family to attend to another of Mia Farrow’s 11 children (most of them adopted) and who, just after a brief look at Allen’s interaction with the little Dylan, approached him and Mia Farrow with a suggestion of a session on “inappropriate fatherly behavior”.
Quote from the Vanity Fair:
“There was an unwritten rule in Mia Farrow’s house that Woody Allen was never supposed to be left alone with their seven-year-old adopted daughter, Dylan. Over the last two years, sources close to Farrow say, he has been discussing alleged “inappropriate” fatherly behavior toward Dylan in sessions with Dr. Susan Coates, a child psychologist.
In more than two dozen interviews conducted for this article, most of them with individuals who are on intimate terms with the Mia Farrow household, Allen was described over and over as being completely obsessed with the bright little blonde girl. He could not seem to keep his hands off her. He would monopolize her totally, to the exclusion of her brothers and sisters, and spend hours whispering to her. She was fond of her daddy, but if she tried to go off and play, he would follow her from room to room, or he would sit and stare at her.
…Indeed, people wondered how she could cope with so much doting attention from her father—behavior that many people frankly didn’t know what to make of. “When she just wanted to giggle and run away and play, he’d be right behind her. And I just looked at it, and I’d shake my head and think, I hope this is a great thing,” says Pascal. “It was to the point that when we would go over there I wouldn’t run over and talk to her or anything. I’d talk to Satchel, but it’s like you don’t even dare talk to Dylan when he’s around.”
And was Pascal aware of the rule that Woody was never to be left alone with Dylan? “It was a really good rule,” she says. “There was no other way she could get away and get out.”
… Dr. Coates, who just happened to be in Mia’s apartment to work with one of her other children, had only to witness a brief greeting between Woody and Dylan before she began a discussion with Mia that resulted in Woody’s agreeing to address the issue through counseling. At that point Coates didn’t know that, according to several sources, Woody, wearing just underwear, would take Dylan to bed with him and entwine his body around hers; or that he would have her suck his thumb; or that often when Dylan went over to his apartment he would head straight for the bedroom with her so that they could get into bed and play.”
The seasoned us who are well familiar with Victor Gutierrez’s stories about MJ will be impressed by this introduction but will note that all of the above may not be necessarily true – some sources like making up stories and some authors are prone to add their own embellishments to them, so let us agree not to rush things and make fast judgments about Woody Allen.
However with every new line the story told by the girl’s adoptive mother Mia Farrow continues to grow uglier.
“One summer day in Connecticut, when Dylan was four and Woody was applying suntan lotion to her nude body, he alarmed Mia’s mother, actress Maureen O’Sullivan, and sister Tisa Farrow when he began rubbing his finger in the crack between her buttocks. Mia grabbed the lotion out of his hand, and O’Sullivan asked, “How do you want to be remembered by your children?” “As a good father,” Woody answered. “Well, that’s interesting,” O’Sullivan replied. “It only lasted a few seconds, but it was definitely weird,” says Tisa Farrow.
…. Several times last summer, while Woody was visiting in Connecticut, Dylan locked herself in the bathroom, refusing to come out for hours. Once, one of the baby-sitters had to use a coat hanger to pick the lock. Dylan often complained of stomachaches and headaches when Woody visited: she would have to lie down. When he left, the symptoms would disappear. At times Dylan became so withdrawn when her father was around that she would not speak normally, but would pretend to be an animal.
On August 4, [evidently 1992] Woody was in Connecticut to visit the children, and Mia and Casey went shopping, taking along Mia’s two most recently adopted children—a blind Vietnamese girl named Tam, 11, and Isaiah, a seven-month-old black baby born to a crack-addicted mother. While they were gone, there was a brief period, perhaps 15 minutes, when Woody and Dylan vanished from sight. The baby-sitter who was inside searched high and low for them through the cluttered old farmhouse, but she couldn’t find them. The outside baby-sitter, after a look at the grounds around the house, concluded the two must be inside somewhere. When Mia got home a short time later, Dylan and Woody were outside, and Dylan didn’t have any underpants on. …Woody, who hated the country and reportedly brought his own bath mat to avoid germs, spent the night in a guest room off the laundry next to the garage and left the next morning.
That day, August 5, Casey called Mia to report something the baby-sitter had told her. The day before, Casey’s baby-sitter had been in the house looking for one of the three Pascal children and had been startled when she walked into the TV room. Dylan was on the sofa, wearing a dress, and Woody was kneeling on the floor holding her, with his face in her lap. The baby-sitter did not consider it “a fatherly pose,” but more like something you’d say “Oops, excuse me” to if both had been adults. She told police later that she was shocked. “It just seemed very intimate. He seemed very comfortable.”
As soon as Mia asked Dylan about it, Dylan began to tell a harrowing story, in dribs and drabs but in excruciating detail. According to her account, she and Daddy went to the attic (not really an attic, just a small crawl space off the closet of Mia’s bedroom where the children play), and Daddy told her that if she stayed very still he would put her in his movie and take her to Paris. He touched her “private part.” Dylan said she told him, “It hurts. I’m just a little kid.” The she told Mia, “Kids have to do what grown-ups say.” Mia, who has a small Beta video camera and frequently records her large brood, made a tape of Dylan for Dylan’s psychologist, who was in France at the time. “I don’t want to be in a movie with my daddy,” Dylan said, and asked, “Did your daddy ever do that to you?”
What’s absolutely crucial to the story is that the little girl volunteered this information herself. With small children it is the surest sign of real abuse. A little child doesn’t know what’s good or bad, what’s normal or abnormal – for them everything a grown-up does is good and not to be disputed. So when she asked Mia Farrow a simple question: “Did your daddy ever do that to you?” it was worse than any accusation she could ever make.
However this is true only in case the overall story is accurate and correct.
According to people close to the situation, Mia called her lawyer, who told her to take Dylan to her pediatrician in New Milford. When the doctor asked where her private part was, Dylan pointed to her shoulder. A few minutes later, over ice cream, she told Mia that she had been embarrassed to have to say anything about this to the doctor. Mia asked which story was true, because it was important that they know.
They went back to the doctor the next day, and Dylan repeated her original story—one that has stayed consistent through many tellings to the authorities, who are in possession of the tape Mia made. The doctor examined Dylan and found that she was intact. He called his lawyer and then told Mia he was bound by law to report Dylan’s story to the police.
One of Mia’s lawyers, Paul Martin Weltz, notified Woody’s lawyer J. Martin Obten of an incident by hand-delivered letter. On August 13, Allen’s lawyers responded with a jolting pre-emptive strike. They filed a custody suit against Mia Farrow, charging that she was an unfit mother. They have also denied any suggestion of child abuse or therapy for it.
Woody told Time, “Suddenly I got a memo from her lawyers saying no more visits at all. Something had taken place. When I called Mia, she just slammed the phone. And then I was told by my lawyers she was accusing me of child molestation. I thought this was so crazy and so sick that I cannot in all conscience leave those kids in that atmosphere. So I said, I realize this is going to be rough, but I’m going to sue for custody of the children.”
…Woody Allen maintained he had done nothing wrong, but suddenly he was under criminal investigation because of statements Dylan had made. Things had begun to unravel seven months earlier, when Farrow discovered that Allen was having an affair with her 19- or 21-year-old adopted Korean daughter, Soon-Yi. Was it incest? Mia Farrow believed Allen to be a father figure to 9 of her 11 children, not just to Satchel and the 2 he had adopted, and felt that his behavior could not be excused or rationalized.
[She] made the discovery of Allen’s affair with Soon-Yi when she found a stack of Polaroids taken by him of her daughter, her legs spread in full frontal nudity. Woody would later say publicly that the pictures had been taken because Soon-Yi was interested in modeling. ..The pictures were under a box of tissues on Allen’s mantle. Each managed to contain both her daughter’s face and vagina, and when Mia saw them, she later told others, “I felt I was looking straight into the face of pure evil.”
http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/archive/1992/11/farrow199211
Well, well, well… So in Woody Allen’s case there were photographs of Mia Farrow’s adopted daughter “with her legs spread in full frontal nudity” and each photo contained “both her daughter’s face and vagina” and Allen said that it was just for “modeling”? And no one in the media thought that this interesting factual evidence deserved even a comment?
Please compare it with Michael Jackson’s case where they didn’t find a single scrap of factual evidence and all they had to talk about was two books he had from his fans with a couple of photos of naked boys on the beach (the books were ‘seized’ in 1993 while in 2003 they didn’t ‘seize’ even that little].
These two books were the only thing they had in addition to the so-called Michael’s “porn” (Playboy magazines locked away in a bag) however this scarce nothing keeps Michael Jackson’s haters talking for more than 20 years now. Oh, they haven’t heard of Woody Allen pictures of a schoolgirl Soon-Yi with “her legs spread in full frontal nudity” yet….
Can anyone here imagine what would have happened to Michael Jackson if he had made photos of a boy thirty years his younger “in full frontal nudity” and explained to the police that it was “just for modeling”? Frankly, I cannot even imagine it. Could it be a crowd tearing him apart or a bomb dropped on Neverland as a radical solution to the problem?
However it was Woody Allen who made those photos, and since Woody Allen is surely not Michael Jackson the matter of the girl’s photos was evidently brushed aside and looked upon as a little whim of the ageing master and as his private matter not worthy of attention or intrusion.
This is what is called double standards, guys.
Though the whole thing was highly immoral it still remained to be seen whether it was illegal. The age of Soon-Yi was not clear as no one knew her real age – she had been picked up from a street in Korea and adopted by Mia Farrow and her previous husband when she was approximately 7. Now the girl was in the last year at school and was aged somewhere in between 19 and 21.
A quote from the Vanity Fair:
Nobody knows how old Soon-Yi really is. Without ever seeing her, Korean officials put her age down as seven on her passport. A bone scan Mia had done on her in the U.S. put her age at between five and seven.
In 1997 Soon-Yi became Woody Allen’s wife and in the noise over their marriage the news of the alleged Dylan Farrow’s molestation was somehow lost.
However the 7 year-old girl was saying a horrendous thing about that scene in the attic she had described to her mother – she said that her stepfather” had used his finger to abuse her.
Sorry for the shock, guys…
THE MEDIA REACTION
After all we learned about the way the media treated Michael Jackson it will be amazing to find out that exactly at the same time when they were pouring their mockery, scorn and dirtiest possible language on Jackson, the same media was on its best behavior with Woody Allen – the articles were civil and restrained, and it was actually Mia Farrow who found herself in the center of media ridicule.
The Vanity Fair article says about it:
Allen and his friends not only mounted an aggressive campaign of damage control but sought to defend him by painting Farrow, whom he had never moved in with, as filled with rage and out for revenge…
Particularly vicious were the tabloid Hamill brothers, Pete in the New York Post and Denis in the New York Daily News, whose brother Brian has worked for Woody as a still photographer on 17 movies.
In a single column, Denis [..] quoted Woody minions who said that Mia washed down tranquilizers and antidepressants with abundant red wine, and that in April, after quarelling about his affair with Soon-Yi, she had staged a fake suicide attempt in Woody’s apartment. What had Woody done, was the leitmotif, to deserve all this?
We haven’t got these particularly vicious pieces from Pete and Denis, but it is quite noticeable that other media resources also presented the horrendous details of the story in a way which is suggestive that they were doubting Mia Farrow’s credibility.
When she testified about the details of abuse they noted that she described it “in a quiet voice”:
In a quiet voice, Ms. Farrow testified, “She said he took her into the attic and that he touched her in certain places, that he inserted a finger partially.”
And when she presented the video of her 7-year old girl telling her story the fact that the video was made out of several episodes was interpreted as a sign of it being false:
Mr. Allen and his lawyers have suggested that the video, which has many stops and starts, reflects Ms. Farrow’s efforts to cajole false answers from the girl. Ms. Farrow said she simply turned the machine on each time Dylan began to talk about the incident.
Just imagine for a second that Evan Chandler had made a video tape with Jordan Chandler describing the alleged abuse (in whatever stops and starts it took) and you will realize that Michael Jackson would have been doomed. No one would have paid attention to the breaks in the video (it would have been regarded as a sign of its authenticity) and the tape would have turned into a hit piece shown in prime time on TV for years to come.
However the tape showed the girl talking about Woody Allen, so the media didn’t care.
The fact that the girl was embarrassed to point to her private parts was again used against the accusers. No one explained that the girl was shy and that on the way back from the doctor she told her mother about her problem of confessing things to a stranger. The next day she did disclose everything to the doctor but the media was already focusing on something different – the fact that the girl’s bodily parts were not injured.
She took Dylan to a doctor the same day the videotape was made, Ms. Farrow recalled. “I think she said he touched her, but when asked where, she just looked around and went like this,” she said, patting her shoulder.
While returning home in the car, Ms. Farrow said, Dylan told her that she did not want to talk about the incident with a stranger.
Four days later, Ms. Farrow took Dylan to another doctor. “There was no evidence of injury to the anal or vaginal area, is that correct?” Mr. Abramowitz asked.
“Yes,” she said.
The nanny (whose $40,000 salary was paid by Woody Allen) said the tape was made over 2 or 3 days with breaks in between. This was interpreted as a sign that in the periods between the takes Mia Farrow was coaching her daughter.
The media portrayed her as an unbalanced and bad mother who had fits of rage in front of the children. Her understandable fury with Allen for seducing one daughter and molesting another and the need for anti-depressants to cope with the problem were presented as something extraordinary and out of the way.
Woody’s friends ridiculed her as “a heavily medicated walking zombie” and the papers were writing that according to her nanny she had “dramatic mood swings and screaming fits” (did they expect her to take all that trouble with a Hollywood smile on her face?)
“I know that the tape was made over the course of at least two and perhaps three days,” Thompson said. “I was present when Ms. Farrow made a portion of that tape outdoors. I recall Ms. Farrow saying to Dylan at that time, ‘Dylan, what did daddy do . . . and what did he do next?’ “Dylan appeared not to be interested, and Ms. Farrow would stop taping for a while and then continue.”
In her two affidavits filed with Allen’s lawyers, Thompson painted a less than tranquil portrait of Farrow’s household. She charged that the actress gives her biological children more gifts and possessions and depends on her adopted children “to do all the chores in and around the house.”
“Since January, Ms. Farrow has suffered dramatic mood swings and had screaming fits about Mr. Allen,” the nanny said in an affidavit taken last August. “These fits of rage were often conducted in front of the children where she would say mean and nasty things about Mr. Allen. All of the pictures of Mr. Allen in their home were destroyed.”
http://articles.latimes.com/1993-02-02/news/mn-952_1_woody-allen
As regards the accusations made by the 7-year old girl the public verdict was that they were made by an “emotionally disturbed child coached or influenced by her mother”.
Dr. Leventhal said: “We had two hypotheses: one, that these were statements that were made by an emotionally disturbed child and then became fixed in her mind. And the other hypothesis was that she was coached or influenced by her mother. We did not come to a firm conclusion. We think that it was probably a combination.”
Have you ever heard Jordan Chandler called by the media an “emotionally disturbed child coached or influenced by his father”? Never heard any such definition in MJ’s case? Me neither.
Can you imagine the prosecution having a video tape of Jordan describing the scene of alleged abuse and Tom Sneddon not making it the central part of his case, possibly even substituting this tape for the child’s testimony at the trial? You can’t imagine Tom Sneddon not using such a tape? Me neither.
Did you ever hear the media say that the prosecution did not have any factual evidence in Jordan Chandler’s case and the only thing they had was the boy’s story which was totally contradicted by the photos at that? No, I’m afraid you never heard of it because they never said it.
What is funny about Woody Allen’s case is that it was running absolutely parallel to Michael Jackson’s case and this is why the difference between the two is so striking and vivid. While Michael Jackson was being crucified, Woody Allen was shielded and protected, and the media kept restraining the public from accusations against him providing argument after argument against the little accuser and her mother.
THE 7- YEAR OLD GIRL STOOD HER GROUND
There was so much pressure from lawyers and the media on Mia and her daughter to “recant” that at some point Mia also questioned the girl’s story and said to her that she would understand if she had made it up.
However the 7-year old stood her ground, did not waver and even said about Allen: “If he says he didn’t, he is lying”.
A quote from Vanity Fair, 1993:
Mia went to Dylan to see if she was willing to recant. Mia said, “Dylan, you know, we all make up stories. Everybody does that. Sometimes we know we made it up.” But the little girl would not back down. “If he says he didn’t,” Dylan answered, “he’s lying.”
Since the incident, Dylan has burst out, even in the middle of playing games, with statements like “I don’t want him to be my daddy.”
“The thing that people have to understand in this case is that it is not Mia versus Woody; it’s just a plain simple fact that a seven-year-old child has told her mother something and that her mother has to choose to believe her,” says a member of the household.
“If her mother doesn’t believe her, who is going to believe her?” Lynn Nesbit observes, “Mia says, ‘How can you turn your back on a seven-year-old?’ Believe me, her life would be a heck of a lot easier if she dropped it.”
The end of Woody Allen’s story is that the media brushed off all accusations against him as ridiculous and went after the little girl’s mother instead. Dylan never recanted on her story, but all media attention was diverted to the Michael Jackson case though it didn’t have even half of the evidence they had against Woody Allen. No photos, no video tapes, no nothing there – just what the boy said.
But this is not the only difference between Allen’s and Jackson’s situations.
THE PROSECUTION
Same as in the criminal investigation of Jackson’s case which lasted for more than a year ended in nothing, the Prosecutor investigating allegations against Woody Allen also dropped the case without making any charges.
However at a press-conference Prosecutor Frank Maco said that there was “a probable cause” to charge and he didn’t do it only to spare the child as the experience of a trial would be too traumatic.
From the Prosecutor we also learned that an arrest warrant had already been drawn for Woody Allen, but then they decided against proceeding with the case to enable the child to heal.
Woody Allen called a press-conference where he lashed out against the Prosecutor, police and Mia Farrow who in his opinion formed an “unwholesome alliance in the cheap scheming reeks of sleaze and deception” (I wish Michael Jackson had been than eloquent):
Allen said that Farrow, the prosecutor and police formed an “unwholesome alliance” against him. “Their cheap scheming reeks of sleaze and deception,” he said.
The filmmaker held a news conference soon after Litchfield, Conn., State’s Atty. Frank Maco said he would not press a sexual abuse charge, despite his belief that there was “probable cause” to support it.
Maco said state police investigators had drawn up an arrest warrant for Allen but he decided there was no “compelling interest” in further pursuing the sexual abuse allegations. Later, Farrow’s lawyer said her client agreed with the prosecutor’s decision to spare 8-year-old Dylan from the trauma of a trial.
Farrow, who won custody of the three children in June, is trying to void Allen’s adoption of Dylan and her 15-year-old brother, Moses. An ugly court fight followed for custody of Dylan and Moses, both adopted, and 5-year-old Satchel, their biological son.
http://articles.latimes.com/1993-09-25/news/mn-38960_1_woody-allen
And here guys, a big surprise is awaiting us. After the prosecutor made his statement about a ‘probable cause for charge’ he was ostracized and you’ll never guess for what – it was for sending a copy of his statement to a judge who was at that time deciding on the status of Dylan’s adoption by Woody Allen.
The legal authorities worried about the possibility of a “terrible” outcome – what if the Prosecutor’s “inappropriate” statement prejudiced the judge against Woody Allen and the girl who accused him of a sexual assault would stop being his adoptive daughter? What a terrible outcome indeed…
A special disciplinary panel was called and found the Prosecutor’s act to be “inappropriate, unsolicited and potentially prejudicial.”
There was no need to worry though – despite the Prosecutor’s statement the judge wasn’t prejudiced and Dylan remained Woody Allen’s adoptive daugher, however the behavior of “the Connecticut Prosecutor handling of a child-molestation complaint against Woody Allen” was found to be a cause for “grave concern” and sanctions against him were considered “ranging from censure to disbarment.”
Since this was a public reprimand the media called it a “damning” decision in respect of the Prosecutor. To show how “bad” the Prosecutor’s misconduct was the media also added that “Prosecutors are generally barred from making accusations that are not contained in formal charges”:
“In most circumstances,” the panel wrote, Mr. Maco’s comments “would have violated the prosecutor’s obligation to the accused.”
Prosecutors are generally barred from making accusations that are not contained in formal charges, according to legal experts.
“This amounts to a public reprimand, though they’re not calling it that,” said Kate Stith, a law professor at YaleUniversity and a former Federal prosecutor. Though the decision was “quite damning,” she said she was not surprised that the panel did not punish Mr. Maco, because lawyers are rarely disciplined for their public statements.
Wait a minute, please.
So the prosecution has certain obligations to the accused and these obligations include a ban on making accusations that are not contained in formal charges?
So if there are no formal charges a Prosecutor cannot continue with his accusations? And this is so grave a violation that a disciplinary panel may censure and even disbar the prosecutor?
Dear me, and what was Tom Sneddon doing to Jackson for ten years from 1993 to 2003 though no formal charges were made?
He was accusing him to the left and to the right, and no one ever stopped and restrained him let alone disbar!
Tom Sneddon kept referring to the photos as proof of his ideas though the photos absolutely did not match the boy’s description, and this means that he was telling open lies about Jackson, and still not a single disciplinary panel ever noticed it? Can I ask a question why, please?
And if all these amazing double standards have not amazed you bad enough here is one more piece to amaze you even more.
The recent Vanity Fair article reported that “the file for Dylan’s case in New York City’s Child Welfare Administration is nowhere to be found”.
Yes, the file they collected about Woody Allen as a result of their investigation mysteriously disappeared. In contrast to Allen all documents from the MJ 1993 case were scrutinized not by one, but by two Grand juries, however they found nothing to indict him for and this is why the case was ended.
TWENTY YEARS LATER
In the autumn of 2013 Mia Farrow and her eight children including Dylan spoke to Vanity Fair again and Dylan, now a grown up woman, reiterated her story about the sexual assault by Woody Allen.
She said that even 20 years afterwards she could not bring herself to call her abuser by name and his image was still giving her a crippling fear. By now she has forgotten a lot but what happened in the attic she remembers very well:
Orth speaks to Farrow’s children, including Dylan, who now has another name and who discusses what she remembers about Allen and how his behavior has tormented her. She refuses ever to say his name. She calls her fears “crippling” and says, “I’m scared of him, his image.”
According to Dylan, “There’s a lot I don’t remember, but what happened in the attic I remember. I remember what I was wearing and what I wasn’t wearing.” She tells Orth, “The things making me uncomfortable were making me think I was a bad kid, because I didn’t want to do what my elder told me to do.” The attic, she says, pushed her over the edge. “I was cracking. I had to say something. I was seven. I was doing it because I was scared. I wanted it to stop.” For all she knew, she tells Orth, “this was how fathers treated their daughters. This was normal interaction, and I was not normal for feeling uncomfortable about it.”
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/10/mia-farrow-children-family-scandal_slideshow_item8_9
Dylan’s brother Ronan Farrow made her story public via Twitter during the Golden Globes ceremony where Woody Allen was given an award for his lifetime achievement.
He tweeted:
- “Missed the Woody Allen tribute — did they put the part where a woman publicly confirmed he molested her at age 7 before or after Annie Hall?”
This tweet drew a long reply from the Daily Beast written by Robert Wiede, an Emmy-winning filmmaker who also recently made a documentary about Allen in the series of “American Masters”.
Ronan Farrow, Allen’s son with Mia Farrow, wrote on Twitter about the ceremony: “Missed the Woody Allen tribute — did they put the part where a woman publicly confirmed he molested her at age 7 before or after Annie Hall?” Mia Farrow tweeted the next day: “A woman has publicly detailed Woody Allen’s molestation of her at age 7. Golden Globe tribute showed contempt for her & all abuse survivors.”
Robert Weide, a screenwriter, director and producer who made a documentary on Allen for PBS’ “American Masters” series in 2011, wrote a long story on the controversy in the Daily Beast last week, casting doubt on the accusations. “If I wrote it today, it would be exactly the same piece,” he said after the Dylan Farrow letter was released.
Here is an excerpt from Robert Weide’s long story about the good Woody Allen and the not-so-good Mia Farrow who brainwashed her children about their stepfather:
I’ve already said this, but it bears repeating: I know Dylan/Malone believes these events took place, and I know Ronan believes so too. I am not in a position to say they didn’t, any more than all the people on the internet calling for Woody’s head can say they did.
The point is that accusations make headlines; retractions are buried on page twelve, and coerced accusations are as much a reality as coerced confessions. Since Woody literally pays no mind to this stuff, and he continues to work and have a happy home life, I would never suggest he’s a victim in this case. The real victim has always been Malone. For me, however, the real questions are: who’s doing the victimizing, and does pain really heal better in the public spotlight? I don’t pretend to have answers for either question.
Malone, who is now a writer and artist, and happily married to an information-technology specialist, had been living a seemingly quiet life out of the spotlight. Obviously, if she feels that an interview with Vanity Fair is a necessary part of her healing process, that’s her right. I can only hope it brought her some closure, and I sincerely wish her all the happiness and peace she’s been looking for.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html
Robert Weide’s long answer to Dylan and Ronan Farrow is an amazing (and novel for us) piece of journalism. The author meticulously records every little media fact in support of Allen’s since 1993. He also says that “he cannot take a position on reliability and objectiveness of Vanity Fair” and closes the article with banging news that the magazine was accused of libel in Roman Polanski’s case and lost to him – which is a very transparent allusion to the Vanity Fair’s sources being untrue and this being a libel case again.
Knowing all the good Maureen Orth did to Michael Jackson I would not even object to these accusations if it were not for one nagging question. If the magazine is so bad, why didn’t anyone notice it when it was publishing lie after lie about Jackson? Were these lies so difficult to notice considering all that craziness about the blood baths from 42 cows allegedly taken by MJ in the center of Switzerland described by Maureen Orth?
When the witch hunt for Jackson was in full swing not a single Emmy-winning filmmaker raised a voice of reason and the media was allowed to run wild with all those nasty stories about Jackson, choking with agitation and the thrill of the game.
And why hasn’t anyone ever, ever cared to make a long story similar to that about Allen meticulously recording the numerous facts of Michael’s innocence, including the fact that the description of Michael’s accuser never matched the photos and they were actually so different that the accuser’s lawyer wanted them barred from the case?
Let us sum up.
Woody Allen was never charged with a crime in 1993. And Michael Jackson was never charged with a crime in 1993 either. In 2005 he was charged with everything under the sun including conspiracy and keeping hostages, but was fully acquitted on all counts and proclaimed a free and innocent man.
So both of them were innocent until proven guilty, and if that is the case why was there so big a difference in the way they were treated by the media?
Michael was crucified and ripped into shreds for almost two decades while Woody Allen lived the 78 years of his life basking in the rays of glory, respect and admiration.
Why has Woody Allen been always supported by the media despite the accusations made by a 7-year old girl while Michael Jackson was vilified as the worst of criminals on the basis of a similar story?
Does it mean that the innocence until proven guilty principle apply only to the chosen few in the country that prides itself on equal opportunities for all?
In fact, Robert Weide is absolutely right when he says that accusations make headlines and retractions “are buried on page twelve”. But for Michael Jackson it was even worse. The retractions about his innocence were not even on page 12 – they were not published at all except for the USA Today and one other media source. The retraction was a short piece about the photos not matching the accuser’s description, published in tiny letters and under a wrong title.
Now that both these sources are happily archived and can be obtained only for money, Jackson is denied even the luxury of a tiny retraction on page 12 while Woody Allen is enjoying the benefit of long stories written in his support by renowned filmmakers.
DYLON FARROW’S LETTER IN VIEW OF WADE ROBSON’S ALLEGATIONS
The Farrows’s story was suddenly continued in a way no one really expected it – Dylan Farrow wrote a letter to the New York Times website where she confirmed that at the age of 7 she had been sexually assaulted by her stepfather Woody Allen. She addressed her letter to the public and Hollywood.
Here is the text of it preceded by a note from Nicholas Kristof:
In 1993, accusations that Woody Allen had abused his adoptive daughter, Dylan Farrow, filled the headlines, part of a sensational story about the celebrity split between Allen and his girlfriend, Mia Farrow. This is a case that has been written about endlessly, but this is the first time that Dylan Farrow herself has written about it in public. It’s important to note that Woody Allen was never prosecuted in this case and has consistently denied wrongdoing; he deserves the presumption of innocence. So why publish an account of an old case on my blog? Partly because the Golden Globe lifetime achievement award to Allen ignited a debate about the propriety of the award. Partly because the root issue here isn’t celebrity but sex abuse. And partly because countless people on all sides have written passionately about these events, but we haven’t fully heard from the young woman who was at the heart of them. I’ve written a column about this, but it’s time for the world to hear Dylan’s story in her own words.
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An Open Letter From Dylan Farrow
By DYLAN FARROWFrances SilverDylan Farrow
What’s your favorite Woody Allen movie? Before you answer, you should know: when I was seven years old, Woody Allen took me by the hand and led me into a dim, closet-like attic on the second floor of our house. He told me to lay on my stomach and play with my brother’s electric train set. Then he sexually assaulted me. He talked to me while he did it, whispering that I was a good girl, that this was our secret, promising that we’d go to Paris and I’d be a star in his movies. I remember staring at that toy train, focusing on it as it traveled in its circle around the attic. To this day, I find it difficult to look at toy trains.
For as long as I could remember, my father had been doing things to me that I didn’t like. I didn’t like how often he would take me away from my mom, siblings and friends to be alone with him. I didn’t like it when he would stick his thumb in my mouth. I didn’t like it when I had to get in bed with him under the sheets when he was in his underwear. I didn’t like it when he would place his head in my naked lap and breathe in and breathe out. I would hide under beds or lock myself in the bathroom to avoid these encounters, but he always found me. These things happened so often, so routinely, so skillfully hidden from a mother that would have protected me had she known, that I thought it was normal. I thought this was how fathers doted on their daughters. But what he did to me in the attic felt different. I couldn’t keep the secret anymore.
When I asked my mother if her dad did to her what Woody Allen did to me, I honestly did not know the answer. I also didn’t know the firestorm it would trigger. I didn’t know that my father would use his sexual relationship with my sister to cover up the abuse he inflicted on me. I didn’t know that he would accuse my mother of planting the abuse in my head and call her a liar for defending me. I didn’t know that I would be made to recount my story over and over again, to doctor after doctor, pushed to see if I’d admit I was lying as part of a legal battle I couldn’t possibly understand. At one point, my mother sat me down and told me that I wouldn’t be in trouble if I was lying – that I could take it all back. I couldn’t. It was all true. But sexual abuse claims against the powerful stall more easily. There were experts willing to attack my credibility. There were doctors willing to gaslight an abused child.After a custody hearing denied my father visitation rights, my mother declined to pursue criminal charges, despite findings of probable cause by the State of Connecticut – due to, in the words of the prosecutor, the fragility of the “child victim.” Woody Allen was never convicted of any crime. That he got away with what he did to me haunted me as I grew up. I was stricken with guilt that I had allowed him to be near other little girls. I was terrified of being touched by men. I developed an eating disorder. I began cutting myself. That torment was made worse by Hollywood. All but a precious few (my heroes) turned a blind eye. Most found it easier to accept the ambiguity, to say, “who can say what happened,” to pretend that nothing was wrong. Actors praised him at awards shows. Networks put him on TV. Critics put him in magazines. Each time I saw my abuser’s face – on a poster, on a t-shirt, on television – I could only hide my panic until I found a place to be alone and fall apart.
Last week, Woody Allen was nominated for his latest Oscar. But this time, I refuse to fall apart. For so long, Woody Allen’s acceptance silenced me. It felt like a personal rebuke, like the awards and accolades were a way to tell me to shut up and go away. But the survivors of sexual abuse who have reached out to me – to support me and to share their fears of coming forward, of being called a liar, of being told their memories aren’t their memories – have given me a reason to not be silent, if only so others know that they don’t have to be silent either.
Today, I consider myself lucky. I am happily married. I have the support of my amazing brothers and sisters. I have a mother who found within herself a well of fortitude that saved us from the chaos a predator brought into our home.
But others are still scared, vulnerable, and struggling for the courage to tell the truth. The message that Hollywood sends matters for them.
What if it had been your child, Cate Blanchett? Louis CK? Alec Baldwin? What if it had been you, Emma Stone? Or you, Scarlett Johansson? You knew me when I was a little girl, Diane Keaton. Have you forgotten me?
Woody Allen is a living testament to the way our society fails the survivors of sexual assault and abuse.
So imagine your seven-year-old daughter being led into an attic by Woody Allen. Imagine she spends a lifetime stricken with nausea at the mention of his name. Imagine a world that celebrates her tormenter.
Are you imagining that? Now, what’s your favorite Woody Allen movie?
The letter is absolutely outstanding in its pain and sincerity. This is how real victims talk.
She used to tell this story when she was 7 years old and she is still sticking to it now – years have absolutely not erased it from her memory. She felt nausea for him when she was small and this nausea still hits her each time she sees his image twenty years later. In her childhood she locked herself in the bathroom to avoid meeting with him and even now she still looks for a solitary place to lock herself in to loosen her feelings and fall apart.
How typical it is. The memory of a childhood horrid experience never goes away as it is the emotional memory which sends the grown-up exactly into the moment when she experienced it in childhood and the same emotion is relived again and again with all the heartbeat, panic and confusion of it.
Every little detail of it is imprinted in the memory and this is forever. And the only thing you can do about it is change your own attitude towards it – it was a different you and this other you remained in the past, while now you are new and living a new life.
Is it necessary to explain that in the mind of really sexually abused children their perception of themselves in the past and present coexist, but never change places and play games which Wade Robson is fooling us with now?
Even a seven-year old will know that something abnormal was taking place with her when she was little and will remember it forever, and this is all the more true for a boy who was allegedly abused from the age of 7 to 14 as Wade Robson claims.
And it is absolutely impossible to imagine this tortured soul of a girl behaving the way Wade Robson is behaving now – supporting the man right at the time of the alleged abuse followed by a happy 10 year period of being a close family friend of the “offender”, then defending him at a trial looking confident, relaxed and even making easy jokes (like Wade Robson did) and then, after twenty years of this total amnesia, suddenly recalling the horror of what happened at age 7-14 – painting it in most dirty colors and asking for a mere $30mln at that?
Give me a break, guys. Wade Robson’s scenario is complete fiction and Dylan Farrow’s letter of her twenty years of nausea towards the man she sees as her offender shows it like nothing else would.
And though her letter cannot of course be considered the final establishment of guilt of Woody Allen due to the “innocent until proven guilty” principle, I’m still happy that Dylan talked. First of all it will be the final step in her healing process and from now on her emotional memory won’t have a crippling a power over her mind.
And secondly, in comparison with her heart-wrenching story Wade Robson’s allegations begin to look especially ridiculous and this is what we need to really thank her for.
The more victims of abuse speak up the easier it will be for the public to realize what real abuse is all about and the better and safer it will be for our children.
COREY FELDMAN, HOLLYWOOD AND MICHAEL JACKSON
Dylan Farrow is not the first to tell us what some people in Hollywood like doing to little girls and boys. The one who made the first crack in the wall of silence around real pedophiles in entertainment business was Corey Feldman who was also abused by some Hollywood mogul – same as his friend Corey Haim.
Feldman says that pedophilia is the Hollywood “open secret” and while he was a child he was surrounded by pedophiles.
This is a review of his fantastic (as I’ve read) book called “Coreyography” where he tells it all:
Feldman [..] did encounter more sexual abuse later on from the adults around him, including an older male Feldman had hired as his assistant who he calls “Ron Crimson” in the book. Crimson allegedly performed oral sex on Feldman after he encouraged a teenaged Feldman to take a cocktail of pills. Feldman writes that in his teen years he was constantly surrounded by pedophiles.
Corey Feldman said that of all people Michael Jackson was the one who never in his whole life gave him an inappropriate touch and with whom he was finally able to return to normalcy.
After all the abuse Corey endured from other grown-up people Michael Jackson became his happy place and it was actually Michael Jackson who brought him back to innocence:
Feldman’s childhood was so troubled that he looked to his friend Michael Jackson, introduced to him by director Steven Spielberg, for normalcy.
“Michael Jackson’s world, crazy as it sounds, had become my happy place,” he writes.
“Being with Michael brought me back to my innocence. When I was with Michael, it was like being 10 years old again.”
Feldman stresses in the book that Jackson never once acted inappropriately toward him.
… You can’t go around publicly accusing industry titans without expecting to find yourself in the middle of a nasty lawsuit,” writes Feldman, “to say nothing of the potential threat to my career, as well as to the personal safety of myself and my son.”
Coreyography acts in part as a warning to parents pushing their children into show business. Feldman claimed on a 2011 episode of Nightline and repeats in the book that the “number one problem in Hollywood was, and is, and always will be pedophilia.”
Same as in the Woody Allen investigation in 1993, the media and police didn’t follow up on the true story of Corey Feldman’s molestation which he disclosed to the police when they were seeking his “confession” regarding Michael Jackson.
Corey said that his relationship with Michael Jackson was one of the healthiest he had. When questioned by the police he had nothing bad to say about Michael and instead ventured information about his true abuser, however the police were not interested and did nothing.
A recording of Feldman speaking to Santa Barbara sheriffs recorded in December 1993 when the actor was 22 was obtained by RadarOnline.
Feldman was being questioned in relation to the molestation charges brought against MIcahel Jackson by Jordy Chandler and his family. In his book the Stand By Me actor said his relationship with the pop king was one of the healthiest he had.
In the recording, Feldman can be heard telling Sgt. Deborah Linden and Detective Russ Birchim, ‘I myself was molested’ before going on to name his abusers.
The detectives expressed little to no concern but continued to keep the focus on Jackson.
‘I know what it’s like to go through those feelings and believe me, the person who molested me, if this was him that did that to me, this would be a different story. ‘I would be out there, up front, doing something immediately to have this man given what was due to him.’
He alluded to this interview recently after a fan on Twitter asked him why he did not report the men to authorities.
‘All names were given to police before statute had run out but they did zero,’ he answered.
The Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Office did not respond to requests for comment.
In the book, Feldman recalls his often twisted friendship with fellow child star Corey Haim and how the pair were told by trusted adults that it was normal for older men and young boys to have sexual relations in the industry.
He named their abusers as Ron, Tony, Burnham and Crimson — all pseudonyms.
…Naturally, he sought out adult role models at work. And while Steven Spielberg, who hired him for the first time for ‘Gremlins,’ became a trusted friend, other grown ups took advantage of him, he writes in the book.
One picture in the book shows Feldman and Haim at the former’s 15th birthday party flanked by five older men who at the time were abusing them.
‘Slowly, over a period of many years I would begin to realize that many of the people I had surrounded myself with were monsters,’ he writes.
Interestingly, the only safe place he knew was with Michael Jackson.
‘I was shattered, disgusted, devastated. I needed some normalcy in my life. So, I called Michael Jackson,‘ he recalls. The pair had been introduced by Spielberg.
‘Michael Jackson’s world, crazy as it sounds, had become my happy place. Being with Michael brought me back to my innocence. When I was with Michael, it was like being 10 years old again.’
He insists in the book that Jackson never abused him or tried to touch him sexually.
The surprises didn’t end there. Corey, 42, also said, ‘The people who did this to me and Corey [Haim] are still in this business…. and they want me dead.‘
He also stated that these predators are ‘very powerful in the media and in the studio system.’
Sherri, who sat between Corey and guest host Nick Offerman, made sure to squeeze in a mention of Michael Jackson. After the host pointed out he wrote that the King Of Pop was the one man who did not take advantage of him, Corey agreed, saying, ‘Of all people.’
Here is the interview of Corey Feldman where he speaks about the powerful players in Hollywood who molest children and that there was one gentleman in this industry who did NOT take advantage of him and that was MICHAEL JACKSON – and all Barbara Walters has to say to it is this:
“You are damaging an entire industry!”
FELDMAN: I’m saying that there are people that did this to both me and Corey Haim that are still working, that are still out there, and they are some of the richest and most powerful people in this business.
WALTERS: And they are predators?
FELDMAN: And they do not want me say what I’m saying right now.
WALTERS: Are you saying that they are pedophiles?
FELDMAN: Yes.
WALTERS: And that they are still in this business?
FELDMAN: YES. And they don’t want me here right now. They want me dead.
SHERRI SHEPHERD: And that’s what you are saying in your book. When you talk to parents…Corey.. There are a lot of parents out there who want to put their kids in this business. Their kids are cute, they are great actors. What will you say to parents who have their best of intentions who’re coming there with their child? Are you saying there are many predators in this industry?
FELDMAN: It’s a many feathered bird, okay? Be careful what you wish for – that’s what I’ll tell you. You know, don’t go into it with naivety, don’t go into it thinking that it’s all roses and …
WALTERS: You are damaging an entire industry!
FELDMAN: I’m sorry, I’m not trying to. I’m just trying to say it’s a very important, serious topic.
SHEPHERD: There is one gentleman in this industry who did NOT take advantage of you. He was not a pedophile. You said it was Michael Jackson.
FELDMAN: Of all people.
Yes, of all people Michael Jackson was the one who never took advantage of children. The most vilified man on earth was even able to return the abused children to normalcy and give them a feel of childhood innocence which they had long lost.
And the more child victims come out to tell their true story the more obvious it will become that Michael Jackson was simply used as a shield to cover up for someone else’s crimes.
Helena, since Michael’s voice was totally ignored by the media we should not ignore Woody’s side, especially if his other children are defending him. More on these links:
http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/
http://www.woodyallenpages.com/denying-vanity-fairs-undeniable-facts-about-woody-allen-and-mia-farrow-with-facts/
https://woodyallenmoblynching.com/soon-yi-interview/
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Can I have a look at these stories (where Dylan supposedly said something else in private)?
They didn’t conclude that Dylan was a liar. Even the article you’ve sent me merely says: “Although they could not conclude with absolute certainty that Dylan was specifically coached by Mia Farrow, they noted that there were “important inconsistencies in Dylan’s statements in the videotape and in her statements to us”
“Naked?” Your article says that Mia Farrow’s video consisted of “eleven segments shot at different times in different places, one nude in a bathtub, others outside showing her topless. And also: “There was a splice, Mia explained, that cut out some tape inadvertently capturing Dylan’s private parts, and which, Mia felt, was “inappropriate” to show.”
So what was inappropriate for anyone to see was cut out by Mia Farrow. As regards topless small girls all of us can see a lot of them on the beach, can’t we? So what is so “sick” about it? Your rage is absolutely misplaced.
The article says that “the tape had undeniably been stopped and restarted several times.” So what? Mia Farrow herself said that she didn’t want to push the girl and recorded her only when she felt the girl was in the mood to talk. So if anything, these eleven segments are exactly the proof that she tried to make the record in the most natural way possible. IF she had coached her, the result would have been different – it would have been one or two segments only with the girl spilling out her story from beginning to end, and then probably repeating it again in the same coached words.
Moses is describing the general frantic atmosphere in the family. In fact, if it weren’t frantic after the mother heard that her daughter had been possibly abused and would have remained calm and unaffected, that would have been a pathology. Any real mother would be frantic, anxious and enraged. This reaction is normal. And Moses could not be a witness to any of those episodes by default. The maids were.
Oh, this is beginning to grow interesting. What false claims did I make? And how could I if all I do is quote the documents?
No, I have not. Because there is no such thing as the “profile of real pedophile”. Moreover, I’ve read the report of Pennsylvania University that spanned many years of research and one of its conclusions is that crimes against children can be committed even by seemingly good fathers of families who travel on business to LA, for example (the center of child prostitution in the US as far as I remember) and who simply take advantage of the opportunities “offered” there, irrespective of the age of their victims.
So the only common feature which all child predators share is moral corruption, sexual satiety and the urge to try something “spicy”. And lack of moral principles, beliefs or values that could block their dirty desires.
How nice. If it weren’t for your insistence I wouldn’t have to return to Woody Allen again and again. However I am even grateful to you that you do because some people’s desire to whitewash Allen, Bryan Singer and many-many others proves that those in Hollywood are regarded as untouchable.
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Lol…her fake tears are evidence now? How do you know she didn’t know? She might believe it herself, but I read stories where she says something else in private. What happened to real evidence and doing proper research? So it doesn’t matter that 2 teams of specialists concluded that there was no child abuse and Dylan is a liar? The coaching by her mother is even on tape.
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Moses talks about this coaching also. He was there and is much older so he has the better memory. How sick is that to tape your naked child and force her to make false accusations against her own father just for revenge?
You already made one false claim after the other which I proved by doing some actual research. You are throwing dirt and hoping something will stick. It is completely the opposite when you write about Michael Jackson and do proper research. I am sure you have researched the profile of a real pedophile and their interest in a certain age category, Woody Allen is accused of being into 7 year olds, but you are making claims about him being into 17 year olds also. How does that even make any sense? Lynchmobbers shouldn’t be writing about Michael Jackson. He would never support such behavior. Shame on you.
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The best evidence that Dylan was indeed molested by Woody Allen is her physical reaction to him even when she was already a grown-up woman – you can read about it in one of her very first posts.
No amount of coaching by Mia Farrow or anyone else can make a person have an uncontrollable sick reaction Dylan always experienced when she saw him. And what makes her testimony so valuable is that she didn’t know that this very specific point is the surest sign that she had really experienced it and was not just coached to accuse Allen.
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Now you are doing exactly the same thing as all the MJ haters. Look at how he holds a child! Seriously? He never took any naked picture of her when she was 17. Please provide the evidence. People claim the same nonsense in the MJ case but can’t explain why he wasn’t arrested, and why such things were never shown in court.
You are calling Soon-Yi a liar? She was 21 when they became romantically involved. She has told the truth. The truth never changes. Yes, Dylan did change her story. She suddenly comes up with a story about an imaginary toy train that would make Safechuck jealous.
You are also calling Moses a liar? A highly intelligent man who is a family therapist. He told a very detailed story that proves beyond any doubt that the real abuser is Mia Farrow. She hit her own kids (especially the adopted ones) straight in the face, and forced them to hate Woody Allen. Mia made up a story about abuse in an attic because she remembers that from a song. Yes, it is that silly.
https://woodyallenmoblynching.com/dylan-farrow-attic-woody-allen-song/
We are supposed to believe that a 56 year old claustrophobic Woody Allen suddenly decided to become a pedophile (sorry, I am not interested in his past relationships with 17 or 18 year olds, that is not pedophilia imo) in a house full of people who hated him, during the few minutes people lost him out of sight (because he had to go to the bathroom), in an attic where there never was any toy train. It is a completely ridiculous story, and of course the accusation was made because of the child custody case. These kinds of false accusations linked to a custody battle are unfortunately rather common (see jordan chandler for example).
I think you of all people should know how unreliable witness accounts are. She did not see anything sexual unless you have a very unhealthy imagination. Moses completely destroys that witness account.
I am sure the investigation could be better. A good doctor is always critical of himself and looks for improvement. Of course, Dr. Leventhal didn’t work alone. Why in the world would he do all the work by himself? That is why he has a whole team around him. They all stand by their conclusions.
You ‘forgot’ that judge Wilk was the one in the custodial case. Not ruling about any sexual abuse. Why does the judge think he knows better than a whole team of experts? Why does he think these professionals were ‘colored by their loyalty to Allen’? Shouldn’t he explain and prove such nonsense? Why does the judge not find the exact same doctors ‘colored’ when they conclude Allen’s behavior was inappropriate? Inappropriate but not sexual which you ‘forgot’ to mention. Why does he just accept Mia Farrow’s doctor opinion? How does any of that even make any sense to you? I suspect very selective reading. Yes, it is unfortunate that the notes were destroyed but it is standard procedure and actually done to protect witnesses. The judge should know that! You ‘forgot’ there was a 2nd separate investigation as well by the New York State child welfare who also could not find any evidence that Dylan was ever abused.
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I can’t understand that you have to resort to repeating Maureen Orth false talking points. Don’t you realize that you are always wrong when you follow Maureen Orth? I know you just post a bunch of text to try to impress people, but I would have been more impressed if you had kept it short and had actually any evidence to show. You seem very confused about the word ‘inappropriate’ and leave out the ‘non-sexual’ part. Do you really think he would be allowed to adopt 2 children if he really was so inappropriate? Please reread your own post and ask yourself what actual evidence you provided. It seems you really want him to be guilty and completely lost your usual objective focus which makes me very sad.
http://www.woodyallenpages.com/denying-vanity-fairs-undeniable-facts-about-woody-allen-and-mia-farrow-with-facts/
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Not quite. Five years ago I did some research of the Dylan-Allen-Farrow story and here is an excerpt from my post in 2015:
The Huffington Post has recently published an exceptionally useful document no one has ever seen – it is the Superior Court Ruling in Woody Allen’s claim for gaining custody of Dylan and her two brothers Moses and Satchel (now Ronan) made in June 1993. https://ru.scribd.com/document/205403621/Allen-v-Farrow-Custody-Ruling-June-7-1993#download
I’ll quote some excerpts from the judge’s order and accompany them with the newspaper articles of the period which will amaze you by total lack of fact reporting from the judge’s ruling and exceptionally good manners towards Woody Allen – and this at the time when the media hate for Michael was already simmering and would later burst out into a spectacular witch hunt in August 1993.
The details from the judge’s order are no less breathtaking that the declaration of Jordan Chandler (for example), and the only difference here is that the declaration was seen by everybody while the judge’s order against Woody Allen was swept under the rug and seen by nobody.
Similarly the newspaper texts about Woody Allen are structured to present mostly his side of the story and the headlines alone testify to a big favoritism for Allen. Comparing them with the judge’s order is much fun, therefore some articles will be provided here in full for better enjoyment, however if you know what to expect of them you can skip the articles and immediately pass over to what the judge said about the same.
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And this is how the judge characterized Woody Allen’s answer to Dylan accusations and the things he did in his defense:
The portrait of Woody Allen ensuing from the judge’s ruling is simply horrendous and the methods employed by him show a cold, callous and cynical man having no remorse and keen on manipulating children. His self-absorption feature pointed out by the judge is actually typical of predators or at least sociopaths who for the most part do not think of anyone else’s interests except their own.
Getting back to the media coverage of Woody Allen’s case let us see the New York Times article of March 1993 which focuses on him and Mia Farrow being just ‘lovers’. This is a gross underestimation of their relations as Allen and Farrow were actually parents of two adopted children and one biological child and were therefore a family, even though they kept to different homes.
Different homes were a must as Woody Allen did not stand children and didn’t want to have anything to do with them. During the custody case the judge even wondered why Woody Allen started the case as he had no interest in them and was lacking even the basic parental skills. The ruling said:
Well, the judge’s ruling reads like a novel and contains a lot of key details. From this piece we learn of the way the newborn Dylan joined the family, how Allen shunned all responsibility for children and how suddently he began to display interest in Dylan:
The above mentioned NY Times article of March 1993 says that the experts’ report didn’t confirm Dylan’s accusations against Woody Allen and now he had much better chances to win the sole custody of Dylan and the two boys.
Excerpts from the article:
However the judge totally disagreed with the conclusions of the expert team on the point of the video tape where Dylan was describing how Allen had abused her:
Many witnesses indeed testified that Woody Allen’s behavior towards Dylan was highly inappropriate. For example, considering that Woody Allen kept to a different home and didn’t stay overnight in Mia Farrow’s house it is extremely strange that he got undressed to his undershorts and got into a bed with the little girl:
As regards Mia’s testimony that she feared that there was something sexual about the way Allen was dealing with the 3 year old, many of us will be tempted to think that it was only the work of Mia Farrow’s imagination.
However when I look at Woody Allen’s photos with Dylan I also find myself disturbed by the way he always holds the girl.
There is something unnatural about it.
“No respect for the integrity of her body” is probably the best way to describe these pictures:
Woody Allen holds Dylan, Leningrad 1987
Holding the child like that was a repeated pattern with Allen. Photo: Getty images
One of the pictures shows Woody Allen and Dylan in Paris in 1991. At that time she was a 6 or 7-year old girl – big enough to walk on her own – so why the need for Allen to hold her in his arms and in this strange manner too?
The New York Times article says that Dr. Leventhal (hired by Woody Allen) interviewed the poor girl nine times and on some occasions she changed her testimony and than back again.
Any psychologist will tell you that a little child like a 7-year old should be approached just once and simply videotaped, giving a chance to various experts to analyze the tape later and whatever number of times they want.
However the biggest surprise of all is that this NY Times article got it all wrong.
In her second letter Dylan Farrow says that Dr. Leventhal did not interview her at all, and all interviewing was done by other people.
From the judge’s ruling we also learn that the interviews were done by Dr. Leventhal’s two aides who had a divided responsibility between themselves and that Dr. Leventhal was just summarizing other people’s findings.
We also learn that for some reason these experts refused to give their testimony to the judge. The only one who testified was Dr. Leventhal who did it by way of a deposition. No first-hand records were provided by the team as all notes were destroyed prior to submitting their findings to Dr. Leventhal.
However all this information is missing in the May 1993 NY Times report. Instead the article is almost triumphant at reporting inconsistencies in the girl’s testimony again and again.
I wish they had repeated the fact that Jordan Chandler’s description didn’t match Michael’s photos as many times as they do it about Dylan. But in Chandler’s case the mismatch was reported on just one occasion and due to total lack of publicity is completely unknown to the general public.
However for Woody Allen they made sure that everyone knows it:
But from the judge’s ruling we learn that he was unimpressed by the report made by the above experts:
In one of the comments in today’s media I’ve found a summary of other strange points in the Woody Allen case. Originally they were reported by the 1997 Connecticut Magazine by its veteran journalist Andy Thibault. The summary adds a lot of interesting details to the picture:
The 1997 Connecticut Magazine article confirms all of the above and explains that Dr. Leventhal noted in his report that Dylan had a “thought disorder” because she spoke of some “dead heads in the attic”. When it was found that Mia Farrow kept there a trunk with wigs from her movies on wig blocks the matter was clarified, however Dr. Leventhal didn’t bother to change the report.
This information is supplemented by details from the former Obama speechwriter who is close to the Farrows’ family and also cited the testimony from the original case. He says that the alarm was sounded by several witnesses even before Mia Farrow learned anything of it (I have counted at least three witnesses).
He also confirms that Dylan’s story has not changed for 20 years which in comparison with Wade Robson’s allegations is one of the key points.
Things are no longer funny here and needless to say, if it were Michael Jackson this news would be blasting from the front pages of every paper:
And as if this were not enough for us the judge’s ruling speaks of two more incidents with Dylan:
Can you imagine anything like this being reported, for example, by Jordan Chandler or his mother, and this news immediately not hitting the headlines the world over?
Can you imagine the media not running with this story if the subject of it were Michael Jackson?
I cannot. But what is impossible for Michael Jackson seems to be quite possible for Woody Allen.
Indeed all people are equal, only some are more equal than the others.
The fact that little Dylan was exposed to a sex act is probably one of the most reprehensible points in the whole of this depressing story. It speaks to irresponsibility, grooming and whatnot.
“Her reporting was childlike but graphic”. It means that she saw it but couldn’t understand what it was, and so explained it in a manner only a child would. And this in its turn means that she was not coached.
The second incident reported in the judge’s ruling means that what Dylan is describing now happened not just once, but at least twice. The first time her mother evidently didn’t believe her as it was only after several reports (from the nanny who saw the scene on the sofa, the fact that the underpants were missing and the girl’s story proper) that Mia Farrow began to suspect what was happening.
The fact that this was not the first time is corroborated by another article actually written by Woody Allen’s allies in September 1992:
But the huge pile of evidence testifying to Woody Allen’s guilt is only half the story. The other half tells us about the pressure exerted on the Prosecutor and the officials from the New York Child Welfare Administration who were handling the Dylan Farrow case….”
The rest of it here: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2014/02/13/woody-allen-vs-michael-jackson-is-there-a-way-to-learn-the-truth/
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But Woody Allen took a photo of Soon-Yi with her legs open when she was still 17.
And here is another story about Woody Allen’s involvement with a 17-year old girl:
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Almost forgot. Moses Farrow story is a must read. I imagined Gavin Arvizo going through something similar. If only he could be so brave.
http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-son-speaks-out-by-moses-farrow.html
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Sorry, I did not mean to start a huge discussion about Woody Allen. After all this website is not about him. I just think the comparison is false. They are not even that different. Soon-Yi Previn was not Allen’s daughter nor adopted daughter. She is an adopted Previn. Allen had a relationship with Mia. He was not living with her, and was not parenting Soon-Yi.
Now, I understand it is not very nice to start a relationship with the adopted daughter of your ex, but that is not the point. The point is it is not illegal and when you are 21 you can do whatever you want. From that point it is a simple bf/gf situation. They are still married so obviously it is a real relationship. I know nothing compares to MJ, but Woody Allen wasn’t treated very nicely by the media either, and even though 2 investigations proved his innocence there is still a lynch mob who thinks he was a pedophile. No matter that he didn’t fit any pedophile profile just like MJ but they don’t care.
I don’t agree that we can never know the truth because the truth came out in the investigations. Dylan Farrow was not consistent at all. The verdict that Dylan was lying was made by two teams of specialists after a thorough investigation. That should be more than enough evidence of his innocence just like MJ’s not guilty verdict in 2005 was. I don’t know if Dylan believes that she was molested by Allen. She was coached from a very young age so maybe. I believe Moses Farrow. That even Vanity Fair and Maureen Orth are quoted here is completely bizarre.
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Alex, if you talk about me, the post about Woody Allen was made to show the double standards practised by the media, experts and even law enforcement towards him and Michael Jackson. This alone is a very disturbing fact.
In Woody Allen’s case every effort is made to show that the situation of Allen photographing Soon-Yi with her legs open is ‘normal’ and that Dylan is a liar though she was always consistent in her story.
And in Michael Jackson’s case every effort is made to show that Chandler ‘told the truth’ though all facts testify to the opposite, same as with the two liars who first said one thing and then another, and still keep changing their stories .
To see the contrast in the approach you need to reverse the situation and imagine that it was MJ who made that photo. What would have been the public and media reaction?
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As far as I remember Dylan had a physical reaction of sickness whenever she saw Woody, and such things cannot appear “because she believes it.” It doesn’t work that way.
All those articles on trauma and PTSD will remain shallow words to you and everyone else unless you recall something really stressful that happened to you personally, and not necessarily in your childhood.
Imagine a situation when you step into an elevator and it suddenly goes down before finally stopping on some floor. The stress you have experienced will be so big that every time you approach an elevator you will feel nauseous. Every time. And though your mind will try to persuade you that modern elevators are equipped with all sort of safety mechanisms, the sick feeling will still be there because feelings and emotions are beyond our control. We can suppress them, but we can’t stop feeling them.
Same with real victims of abuse. The situation of child sexual abuse always generates the feeling of utter discomfort, confusion and fear with a child, and this is the very least of it, so when a grown-up victim sees the abuser again, this feeling always returns, no matter what their mind tells them now. For the real victim it is never easy. And judging by the way Dylan described her sickness whenever she saw or even heard of Allen, her case looks real. No one can coach anyone to really feel it unless probably under hypnosis.
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My daughter is currently 21.
You can bet your life it would be considered a big deal if I was taking pornographic photos of her.
Adopted daughter or biological daughter. There’s certain things you don’t do. Taking naked, open-leg photos of the girl that you had a hand in raising since she was 8 years old is one of them.
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This is how I see it. We’ll never know the truth about what happened in this situation, because both Woody Allen and Mia Farrow fabricated evidence against each other and focused more on their campaigns of vengeance rather than what was best for the children. They’re both despicable people, and they ruined the lives of everyone, especially Soon-Yi, Dylan, Ronan and Moses. Of course Dylan genuinely believes the abuse happened to her, and her behavior is in line with actual abuse victims, because she believes it. But the truth of whether or not it happened can’t be determined, because of how a bitter custody battle turned into an uproar. And it’s despicable that those who focused on whether or not Woody Allen was treated fairly or not never remotely gave the same concern to Michael, and may even have helped set the situation up simply to take the heat off of Woody. It’s beyond reprehensible.
Dylan spoke her truth, Moses spoke his, and both are equally plausible. It’s plausible Woody did go to violate Dylan. It’s also plausible that the police made him trip up regarding the attic fingerprint and hair, lying about evidence they didn’t have, and Woody ended up explaining in a way to admit to visiting a place he never was in. Who knows? But there is definitely more actual evidence to support Woody’s guilt than there ever was with Michael. Whether that evidence is real or not, again I can’t say,.
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Lets be honest. Imagine the Yale-New Haven Hospital had done an evaluation of Jordan Chandler. They interviewed him 9 times, including the parents and other people, and then came to the conclusion that his accusations were false. Would that not be used as the ultimate proof that the Chandler allegations were false?
Or, a year later, yet another investigation by the New York State child welfare with the same conclusions. Is that not enough evidence of Woody Allen’s innocence? Sometimes I am really surprised that even the biggest critical thinker can just join a lynch mob in another case and all critical thinking is suddenly gone. Just makes no sense to me. https://woodyallenmoblynching.com/dylan-farrow-sexual-abuse-yale-report/
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Allegations are allegations. Soon-Yi’s naked pics were made when she was 21. Big deal. Dylan was coached by her mother to take revenge. This article shows similar hate to an innocent man like haters hate MJ. Helen really should know better.
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Absolutely. I couldn’t have said it better.
It is something that Soon-Yi doesn’t understand at all. She totally lacks empathy, gratitude and emotions in general. And it is not even her fault – the children who were neglected in their early childhood are unable to form attachments and are completely emotionless.
I remember once reading the account of a woman who surrounded her adopted daughter with much love and care, but the several years of her efforts went away in a whiff when a neighbor came to visit them and brought a cake. The cake was delicious and this was enough for the adopted daughter to say to the neighbor: “I wish I could live with you instead. You cook so well”.
What I mean is that the children who were neglected when infants or little kids (were not kept tenderly in the arms of their parents, were not kissed and hugged, were devoid of the necessary tactile signals indispensable to infants, were ignored and not paid attention to, etc.) lose the ability to form close emotional ties with anyone at all in their adult life. They will probably more or less simulate these emotions by making an effort on themselves and forcing themselves to express gratitude (for example), but in any case it will be a conscious effort on their part and not a natural instinct – they simply “know” that they should be grateful, but don’t know “how to” and don’t really feel it.
Soon-Yi’s recent interview has a very good example of it:
“Realistic” is the right word for it – these children are indeed realistic, and as they grow up many of them easily learn which side their bread is buttered on.
Initially Soon-Yi was surely a victim of Woody Allen – he used her for sex and pornographic pictures (of her naked “with her legs spread apart”) and as he himself admitted expected it to be just a “fling”. Here is one of those photos showing Soon-Yi’s young unhappy face:
But when all hell broke loose the realistic Soon-Yi was quick enough to see a chance for herself too – her marriage to Allen and her standing up by him surprised and then silenced the shocked media and public, and turned her into a kind of his protective shield.
So now it remains to be seen who depends on whom in this duo and who is the master of the situation there at the moment. But whatever it is the whole thing is still a tragedy – though it worked out well for Soon-Yi.
Here are some facts about Soon-Yi’s early childhood: http://listverse.com/2018/06/02/10-tragic-facts-about-soon-yi-previn-woody-allens-child-bride/
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I imagine that’s very true. After all, despite all that Michael went through in his upbringing, he made it clear that he still loved his father and forgave him for everything. Michael certainly represents what real grace and surviving problematic upbringings actually is. Something that Soon-Yi doesn’t quite understand, and effectively clings to Woody Allen because of the fact she was clearly groomed to his standards.
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Luv4hutch, just as Susannerb said, this blog is dedicated to Michael Jackson in the first place, so there will probably be no full post about Soon-Yi “breaking her silence”. But apparently you want to hear my opinion about these new developments, and it is very simple – this article is the usual attempt at damage control and so open a PR job that it is even entertaining.
The important point to remember here is that this story is not about Dylan Farrow, so whatever Soon-Yi has to say about Woody Allen will not nullify the ton of evidence against Allen with regard to the 7-year old Dylan.
Secondly, it would be insane to expect a woman who had nothing but got everything through her marriage to Allen to turn on her benefactor. Compare “the couple’s six-story townhouse in the Upper East Side’s prettiest blocks” and “a personal driver and a chef“ with her life with Mia Farrow with whom “money was always an issue” and you will see the obvious answer. And does anyone here think that she is ready to lose all of it and will not fight tooth and nail for what she has?
So the article is telling us of the “abuse” Soon-Yi suffered at the hands of her adoptive mother? Okay, let us compare her charges against Mia Farrow with – let us say – the way Joe Jackson brought up his children.
And what do we see? To our horror we find that the only positive thing Mia said about the poor girl was that she was ‘elegant’. And when Mia first saw the child she threw her arms around her and gave her a big hug and – oh my God – this woman didn’t ring true or sincere to the girl!
The other charges include: Mia didn’t go together with Soon-Yi in the bathroom (as she was used to when in the orphanage) but rather “threw” the poor seven-year old into the water and let her wash on her own.
And she was not maternal enough. And once Soon-Yi was excluded from playing in a paddling pool with the younger children. And Mia was also impatient with the girl’s slow learning skills when she was teaching her the alphabet (never mind that the other children were waiting and that Soon-Yi indeed has a learning disability she “bashfully” admits).
What’s worse is that Soon-Yi and her sisters had to do some chores about the house – did the grocery shopping, wrote the list of everything they needed for the house, paid for it and unpacked it. And they also cleaned the bathrooms, cleared the dishes, washed up, and did the sweeping. Poor Soon-Yi also had to pick up her siblings and iron the sheets, which for some reason are called “Mia’s sheets”.
As a result of this life of horrors by the time she reached puberty her friends noticed how self-sufficient she was.
According to Soon-Yi and her brother Moses Mia’s mothering style was to ensure that “they do what she wanted them to do” (and not to allow them do as they please as, apparently, other parents do). If they misbehaved the harshest punishment in the family that Moses now “painfully” recalls was “being thrown into a bedroom or a closet, then having the door locked from the outside”.
In other words the life of these children was so tragic that Soon-Yi had no positive recollections whatsoever from her years with Farrow.
Quote: Asked repeatedly if she has any positive recollections of her years with Mia, Soon-Yi says, “It seems hard to imagine, but I really can’t come up with one.”
All of it makes me wonder – and what would Soon-Yi say if she had been brought up by Joe Jackson, for example? Complete with all that whipping, round-the-clock work and not a moment to relax, play or even associate with other children outside their home?
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Well, now we have a bit of a wrinkle here. Soon-Yi has broken her silence. She predictably defends Woody, calls Mia the real abuser, and attacks Dylan. Moses also chimes in to support this version. http://www.vulture.com/2018/09/soon-yi-previn-speaks.html
Quite on cue, Dylan and Ronan have struck back viciously at Soon-Yi: http://www.vulture.com/2018/09/dylan-farrow-new-york-magazine-soon-yi-previn.html
You might need not only to respond here, but make a new blog post on the sordid affair.
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Well, there are certain new wrinkles to the whole Woody Allen affair. Soon-Yi has broken her silence, and predictably defends Woody, and pours absolute visceral hatred against Mia Farrow: http://www.vulture.com/2018/09/soon-yi-previn-speaks.html?utm_campaign=vulture&utm_medium=s1&utm_source=tw.
Predictably, Dylan and Ronan have responded by castigating the story, the author, and veiled attacks on Soon-Yi: http://www.vulture.com/2018/09/dylan-farrow-new-york-magazine-soon-yi-previn.html
Most telling are the comments to both stories: http://www.vulture.com/2018/09/soon-yi-previn-speaks.html?utm_campaign=vulture&utm_medium=s1&utm_source=tw#comments
http://www.vulture.com/2018/09/dylan-farrow-new-york-magazine-soon-yi-previn.html#comments
I think you need not only to leave a reply here for all of this, but you might need to make a third blog post about the affair, not the least in comparing how the Mia-Woody family dynamics are utterly different to how Michael raised his children.
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Kaarin222, a great find! By now I’ve also found it on the web and added a link to it to your comment. The short of it is below and I will also try to embed the document on which the Huffington article is based.
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Again wealth, and fame, money is what rules the world. Dylan’s voice has not been heard.
I have the same feeling as against the lawsuit against AEG.
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I lived in NYC in the 1970ies, 80ies and 90ties. There was a rumor that Allen saw a very well known analyst, a specialist in personality disorders for 2 hrs every morning. I think this was in the 80ies, early 90ies. Those are very expensive, $250-350 at least per hr. This contrasts to being cheap re Mia and all the children. At times she was short of money for food for all the children.
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There is actually much info on Dylan’s case and on Mia Farrow and Woody Allen on the net.
I will not repeat what I learned but will give you a few sites to look up.
Mia’s lawyer referred her to the Yale-New Haven team led by a pediatrician, a Dr. John M. Leventhal. No charges for Allen. Later a doctor Stephen Harman testified for Farrow, he is a child psychiatrist and stated that the prior report was seriously flawed. The Leventhal led team also destroyed all it’s notes!(ie evidence destroyed). Later justice Wilk expressed harsh criticism of Allen’s parenting skills.
Look up 10 undeniable facts about the Woody Allen sexual abuse allegation: Here is the 33 page Woody Allen custody ruling in its damning detailed entirety. Huffington post Dec. 6th 2017 https://www.huffingtonpost.com/danny-shea/heres-the-1993-woody-alle_b_4746866.html
Go on to CBS This Morning on Jan 18th 2018 to see Dylan Farrow detail her sexual assault allegations against Woody Allen.
It is pretty much over for Allen. Mia Farrow is an awesome woman.
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I have just looked into Dylan Farrows case. It was grossly mismanaged to start with. Only
now after the #me too# and the interview she gave does the truth come out. It is very late and I will write more another time. I am truly shocked.
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Kaarin222, I am very sorry to hear that. The more we talk about it the more I realize how many people were abused in their childhood. As you probably know I can also add myself to #metoo, and at a pre-school age, though I clearly remember it as if it was yesterday. This plague is evidently everywhere, and it will also take everyone in the world to beat it.
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Exactly. Dylan always looks like she is on the verge of tears when she is in her stepfather’s arms. Thank you for making a note about it – I also wanted to, but always forgot.
Indeed, in those photos Dylan never looks like a happy child. Actually it took a therapist (who visited their home to help with another child) just a couple of minutes to realize that Woody Allen’s attitude to the girl was improper after which he was forced to attend therapy sessions to deal with his problem.
Apparently, the problem was so bad that all maids in their home were instructed to never let Allen stay alone with the girl. And the judge also called his behavior totally inappropriate.
I wish Woody Allen himself and those who try to silence Dylan could acknowledge at least that much.
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I have suffered from what I would call #poverabuse# from more males than what I mentioned before and at times unfairly suffered. economically.. Not a single female abused me in this manner. And I have to add a male college who helped me greatly. He was gay.
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As to “power use and abuse” I have experienced the greatest help in my career from 3 women with great authority, and “power abuse” from 4 male ones, not in authority comparable to the female ones by far. Also one #metoo at age 13, but I’ll leave that for another time. To all young girls and women, get a job with a female boss, your chances of advancement will be better. Not that all males are abusers.
And of course I wish Dylan finally gets the justice she deserves. I will remain eternally thankful to those who helped me.
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Just look at the photos of Dylan with her “daddy”.There is no eye contact in neither, nor does she look at the camera.Her facial expression is in one is one of slight annoyance and a bit of anger, in rhe other one she turns away from “daddy” as she wanted off his grip and facial expression one of feeling miserable. Usually, a child is happy when daddy picks her up-
She has the right to get all information of all interviews and tapes made of her in the past. Those may reveal info not paid attention to at the time.. -And who are the nuts who think
her mother Mia Farrow did not have all the reasons for being angry ? The ” climate” has changed and it is time justice will prevail.
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I reacted to the doctor asking where her private part is. Of course I dont know the complete sequence of questions asked:I have done many such consultations. You never ask that kind of a question first.First ofcourse you introduce yourself to the child and mother. Then see the child first.(it succeeds in 99.99%). You start with play , asking the child to make up any story she wishes using a name not her own or any close friend,then you can go to drawing pictures, “whatever you want to draw”,if the child is uncertain tell her just a peron a house & tree.Ask about dreams.All this takes a while and all along you chat with the child. Only at the very end do you ask the question”has anybody messed with your privates?”.At that time the chlld trusts you and does answer.Then you take it from there. You also have to inform the child of confidentiality and ask if it is OK to disuss with the moher.Almost never a problem.
Once a child trusts you she will disclose the truth. No leading questions before the child is comfortable and trusts you.
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But an even more interesting article was written by Dylan’s brother Ronan Farrow last year as a follow-up on Dylan’s story. You will find amazing details there – like, for example, the way Woody Allen’s publicist handled the scandal in the media to portray Dylan as crazy, coached and vindictive.
Since Ronan was already a journalist then he had access to the publicist’s emails to the media which had read-made talking points to be followed by journalists of various media outlets, complete with the list of validators to support Woody Allen’s point of view. Ronan Farrow calls it a self-perpetuating spin machine – once the talking points were turned into stories, high-profile media outlets made links to them and repeated the talking points, thus making them dominant in the whole media space.
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Four years have passed since this post about Dylan Farrow and Woody Allen was written. Now that #MeToo revolution has broken out Dylan is also asking a question why this movement is so selective and spares people like Woody Allen?
Here is her new letter raising this subject again.
Dylan Farrow: Why has the #MeToo revolution spared Woody Allen?
Woody Allen was investigated for months in 1993. Prosecutors chose not to file charges. (Dec. 8, 2017)
Editor’s Note: Woody Allen, who declined to comment prior to publication, has long denied the allegations described in this Op-Ed. Dylan Farrow’s allegations against Allen were investigated by sex-abuse experts at Yale-New Haven Hospital, who found no evidence of abuse. Some questioned their methodology. A state’s attorney in Connecticut said he had “probable cause” to prosecute in 1993 but did not file charges.
We are in the midst of a revolution. From allegations against studio heads and journalists, to hotel maids recounting abuses on the job, women are exposing the truth and men are losing their jobs. But the revolution has been selective.
I have long maintained that when I was 7 years old, Woody Allen led me into an attic, away from the babysitters who had been instructed never to leave me alone with him. He then sexually assaulted me. I told the truth to the authorities then, and I have been telling it, unaltered, for more than 20 years. Why is it that Harvey Weinstein and other accused celebrities have been cast out by Hollywood, while Allen recently secured a multimillion-dollar distribution deal with Amazon, greenlit by former Amazon Studios executive Roy Price before he was suspended over sexual misconduct allegations? Allen’s latest feature, “Wonder Wheel,” was released theatrically on Dec. 1.
Allen denies my allegations. But this is not a “he said, child said” situation. Allen’s pattern of inappropriate behavior — putting his thumb in my mouth, climbing into bed with me in his underwear, constant grooming and touching — was witnessed by friends and familymembers. At the time of the alleged assault, he was in therapy for his conduct towards me. Three eyewitnesses substantiated my account, including a babysitter who saw Allen with his head buried in my lap after he had taken off my underwear. Allen refused to take a polygraph administered by the Connecticut state police.
In the final legal disposition of the matter, a judge denied him custody of me, writing that “measures must be taken to protect” me and that there was “no credible evidence” that my mother, Mia Farrow, coached me in any way. A prosecutor took the unusual step of announcing that he had probable cause to charge Allen but declined in order to spare me, a “child victim,” from an exhausting trial.
It is a testament to Allen’s public relations team and his lawyers that few know these simple facts. It also speaks to the forces that have historically protected men like Allen: the money and power deployed to make the simple complicated, to massage the story.
In this deliberately created fog, A-list actors agree to appear in Allen’s films and journalists tend to avoid the subject.
Discussing Weinstein, “Wonder Wheel” star Kate Winslet said, “The fact that these women are starting to speak out about the gross misconduct of one of our most important and well-regarded film producers, is incredibly brave and has been deeply shocking to hear.” Of Allen, she said “I didn’t know Woody and I don’t know anything about that family. As the actor in the film, you just have to step away and say, I don’t know anything, really, and whether any of it is true or false. Having thought it all through, you put it to one side and just work with the person. Woody Allen is an incredible director.”
Likewise, Blake Lively said of Weinstein: “It’s important that women are furious right now. It’s important that there is an uprising. It’s important that we don’t stand for this and that we don’t focus on one or two or three or four stories, it’s important that we focus on humanity in general and say, ‘This is unacceptable.’ ” But on the subject of Allen, she said, “It’s very dangerous to factor in things you don’t know anything about. I could [only] know my experience.”
Greta Gerwig, who starred in Allen’s “To Rome With Love” and has called him her “idol,” said of the revelations about Weinstein and other powerful men, “It’s heartbreaking and I think it’s overdue.” But when pressed by Terry Gross of NPR on whether she felt conflicted about working with Allen, Gerwig grew uncomfortable. “You know, it’s all very difficult to talk about….” she said. “I think I’m living in that space of fear of being worried about how I talk about it and what I say.”
For decades, Allen has used the same defense-through-intimidation techniques that Weinstein allegedly did. In 1997, Connecticut Magazine reported that Allen’s legal team had hired private investigators, including ones assigned to find damaging information on law enforcement officials working the sex-abuse case. As my brother Ronan Farrow documented in the Hollywood Reporter last year, Allen’s public relations team, led by Leslee Dart of the firm 42 West, jumps into action whenever allegations resurface. In retaliation for Ronan’s story, Dart barred the publication from a lunch event related to Allen’s feature at the Cannes Film Festival.
Even now, I hesitate to speak out. Allen’s savvy affiliates know that it’s unseemly to direct attacks at me, an alleged victim, and so the invective is directed at my mother again and again. It’s awful and enraging.
Especially painful is that Allen even managed to enlist my brother Moses against me. Moses now claims that my mother “brainwashed” him and “coached” me to accuse Allen, contradicting many years of testimony. Moses’ comments are devastating, but like so many of the attacks on my story, irrelevant: Moses was not there for the alleged assault.
Many publications refuse to run broadsides against me and my family, while others happily repeat the distortions. They repeat that my allegations were made during a custody dispute, which is not true. In fact, Allen sued for custody of me and Ronan only after the investigation into child abuse began. Charming. Many point to a questionable 1993 report that concluded no abuse had taken place. The author of that report never interviewed me, and the team later destroyed all of its notes without explanation.
Although the culture seems to be shifting rapidly, my allegation is apparently still just too complicated, too difficult, too “dangerous,” to use Lively’s term, to confront.
The truth is hard to deny but easy to ignore. It breaks my heart when women and men I admire work with Allen, then refuse to answer questions about it. It meant the world to me when Ellen Page said she regretted working with Allen, and when actresses Jessica Chastain and Susan Sarandon told the world why they never would.
It isn’t just power that allows men accused of sexual abuse to keep their careers and their secrets. It is also our collective choice to see simple situations as complicated and obvious conclusions as a matter of “who can say”? The system worked for Harvey Weinstein for decades. It works for Woody Allen still.
Dylan Farrow is a writer and advocate for survivors of sexual abuse.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-farrow-woody-allen-me-too-20171207-story.html
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Lilly, how do you know Dylan didn’t mention the train earlier? You should be asking why Woody Allen lied about never going into the attic because of his “claustrophobia” – until his hair and fingerprints were found there. Personally I’d like to know what provoked Woody’s extraordinary hostility toward Mia Farrow. His defenders love to describe her as an angry scorned woman, out to get revenge on him. Seems to me he must have been pretty angry at Mia to leave naked crotch shots of her daughter out where she, and her children, were bound to find them. Did he figure out that Ronan was way too good-looking to be his son?
Whatever, my compliments to Woody Allen’s rapid response damage control team. New posters are popping up all over the internet to defend him and defame Mia. Michael Jackson should have hired “Lilly” and her colleagues.
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Even if Soon-Yi was a legal adult at the time those pics were taken, she was still his step-daughter. I know, I know, “but she wasn’t biologically his!” They were still family regardless, which makes the fact that he had those kind of pictures of her to be a bit creepy. As for the toy train thing, perhaps we’re only hearing of it now simply because no one in the media reported it and/or any documentation related to the case that could contain that bit is not publicly available?
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Why did the toy train make a sudden appearance 20 years later when she never mentioned it before? Why does her letter feel manipulative? I don’t believe it. Also pics of an adult woman naked or clothed are not “evidence.” Soon-yi was born either in 70 71 or 72. Get your facts straight and use common sense.
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Many a truth is said in jest: And the theme shows through his movies: Obviously he had a gift for humor;but this is no excuse for child abuse: And shame on the press that mostly did it for money:
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And this is part two to that body language analysis
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A wonderful article,and something I have said myself for year, only to get looked at like I’m mad and “well thats totally different!”
This is a fabulous bloke, he’s done a lot of MJ body language and here he checks out Wade’s body language. The results are very telling
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I was just going to pop this up here because it is an outtake of MJ and Oprah watching video from the interview he did with her,,It looks to me like a bunch of people , all gathered in MJ bedroom watching the footage , with Debbie and Arnie Klien on the bed,
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An entire crew of people are in his bedroom because it would seem to me that is the focal point of the house and his entertaining..
When Oprah heard that people were in his bedroom , I wonder why she didnt remember she was too, instead she made it seem all the more sinister , and yet she knew first hand from this clip, that it was perfectly normal , and innocent,for him to have people in this huge “bedroom”
To me it just shows another example of people in media exploiting innocent things , when it comes to MJ..
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Re. a custody battle between Woody Allen and Mia Farrow here is the judge’s decision to award custody for their three children to Mia Farrow. The article has interesting details and interesting first-hand information from the judge.
Please pay attention to the date – it is June 8, 1993. I think the date is very important here.
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thanks for these info..we didn’t know anything about all these facts. Michael is a victim of racism and more…
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Allen had it coming to him. Let there be justice in the press and in the court. I,and i am not a child, but remember my childhood quite well, I cannot imagine someone like Allen as a father.Well so tried, some one else I didn´t like, but I was a tough little girl and to my recollection he got nothing.-Michael was ground to death by false allegations accompanided by the press.Michael was a good man when it was cool to be bad. And he tried to make a better world for his children and all children. Recall his last words.
Lets see what the chorus=the press will conjure up on this one.
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“The host of this program says: “In some cases no doubt the allegations are true, in others a weapon of revenge”. In 1993 in Michael’s case no one cared if the allegations of Evan Chandler were a weapon of revenge! Double standard again.” – Susannerb
Susannerb, yes, a terrible double standard and a big lie at that. This program speaks about Mia Farrow’s death threats pointing to the photo of her family and children with their hearts pierced – which is a clear symbol of a their hearts broken and not of threatening Woody Allen with anything.
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The picture is indeed unpleasant to look at but it is definitely NOT what they are calling it. It is the evidence of a big disaster brought upon the family by someone who they trusted and loved. And Woody Allen was not just a “boyfriend” of Mia – he was the stepfather of two children whom he adopted together with Mia. He was a family man who broke the hearts of many.
The article says that the card had a photo attached to the knife stabbing Mia’s heart – a pornographic picture of Soon-Yi (not just naked, but with her legs spread as you remember).
I made a larger copy of it – look at the expression on her face. Does this girl look happy with what she is doing?
What mother would be pleased to see her daughter this way and with this kind of an expression on her face?
Actually Mia thought that her daughter was raped.
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And I perfectly understand her feelings.
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Speaking about the media bias Susannerb sent me a link to the King Jordan radio show where the filmmakers Gedrick and Shaw who made a documentary about the 2005 trial shared a story worth listening to.
Let me add that the media people were handing out the “mushroom” picture (allegedly drawn by Jordan Chandler) under the supervision of a LAPD former policeman.
Whether a riot or not but they were trying to incite people against Jackson using the fraudulent “evidence” from the 1993 case which by that time had long been proven to be incorrect.
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The host of this program says: “In some cases no doubt the allegations are true, in others a weapon of revenge”.
In 1993 in Michael’s case no one cared if the allegations of Evan Chandler were a weapon of revenge! Double standard again.
But as the article of Andrea Peyser shows, this is even more than double standard. This unbearable situation implies to me that Michael was chosen, was singled out to be vilified. He was a threat to these people, to the establishment, to the industry, because he hold a mirror up to them, he criticized them and their hypocrisy and didn’t want to be part of them. They wanted to see him guilty, they wanted to break him and get rid of him, the allegations were a means to an end.
But Allen is part of the establishment, so he is protected. And all these people like Peyer and Dimond want to protect themselves by giving Allen a free ticket.
The New York Post has a long story with bashing Michael. Their authors like Stacy Brown and Peyser will do this as long as they live, it’s part of their business. But they will be forgotten as soon as they retire, while Michael will live on for centuries to come.
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Nan, this is simply unbearable. The author of this piece saying that “it’s time to leave Woody Allen alone” is Andrea Peyser, the one who kept calling Michael “the freak of the week”, “Sicko Freak” and the like. Her hate-filled articles about MJ are the classics of a ravaging lunatic writing about things she has no idea of. And now it is her again – only this time demanding that everyone should leave Allen alone?
No, this is too much. Really too much. The same people who went on the worst of all possible witch hunts against MJ have suddenly become the sweetest advocates of someone who is alleged to have abused a 7 year old. THE VERY SAME PEOPLE! Their transformation is incredible. Double standards unheard of. Hypocrisy incomparable to anything we’ve seen before. The bias disgusting, open and insulting to common sense.
This is a sample of what this witch wrote about Michael:
And now the same person says “It’s time to leave Woody Allen alone?”
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http://nypost.com/2014/02/07/its-time-for-mia-farrow-to-let-go-of-hatred-for-woody/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow
here is another person who constantly rips on MJ telling Mia Farrow to let it go..
this is interesting in the fact that all these people are NY based and for years , Woody Allen was considered to be their favorite New Yorker…he was the essence of NY.
It is like they are circling the wagons around him..
I am not saying he did it, but this is such a contradiction, to the way MJ was vilified , it is , like looking in a funhouse mirror as mj used to say..
The fact that these people can put these articles out , just tells me the decision who to trash and who to stick up for is someone higher up on the chain..
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Mia Farrow’s 1992 Valentine to Woody Allen Will Haunt Your Dreams (PHOTO) & (VIDEO)
http://news.moviefone.com/2014/02/06/mia-farrow-valentine-woody-allen/?icid=maing-grid7%7Chtmlws-sb-bb%7Cdl16%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D439865
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Reblogged this on Stop Global Airwave Abuse.
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“I am so open minded about sex.If caught witha 12-15 yo girl,people would think.- yes they would”.-Re Polanski, they first wrote dirt about his dead wife and her friends in the press.They searched the house, a home ready for a baby to be born. His sex-with 13 yo was a later sad and of course criminal act.
Didn´t Allen go to a psychoanalyst forever or do I remember wrong. Was that a game?
The pornographic pics of Soon -Yi are the worst indicators that all is not right with Allen.
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What Woody Allen is has become clear from the recent studies of his interviews and movies which I will write about if I have an opportunity.
As regards pedophilia you cannot even imagine the amount of information I’ve collected about “researchers” who are trying to erode the barriers to it. The number of them is legion, only I don’t want to go into that now.
This problem is only partially medical. Medical professionals will never be able to solve it if they look only for medical roots of it. The problem is largely an ethical and even more so a spiritual one.
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Actually let me expand on that some more. P********* is not a learned behavior like people think. That would mean that it was controllable/reversible which it isn’t. That does not mean that it is an alternative life choice like adult homosexuality. To make it a choice the partner would have to know what it was that they were agreeing to and children do not. Some victims we have seen lately are as young as 11 months old.
There seems to be a big push right now to bring stories about this to the forefront so I can assume that they must be attempting to get the age of consent lowered which is what their organizations goal is. There is also a growing public awareness of more cases that are coming out. That has several reasons most to do with the investigation techniques that are now available and the one thing that is almost always the reason they get caught… they cannot stop themselves from documenting it in film. That is part of the disease that is one of the compulsions. They keep images of it because that is their form of porn and they are caught with tons of it, tons of it. Photos are too easy to take in the digital age everybody has a camera right at their fingertips so many of them think they can get away with producing and exchanging this documentation online.
I know that the opposition likes to talk about those two books that Michael had like they were evidence of something. Well in essence they are… they are more evidence of his innocence than they are his guilt. They in comparison to what is actually found in the homes of sexual abusers, is topsy turvy in the world of Michael Jackson. If Michael Jackson had 100,000 books or more and two of these and these were the only two with photos of children I would not even be all that inclined to believe he liked kids all that much.
What people have been ignoring is this. When we like something or when people look at porn it is to produce a certain response, a sexual response, therefore we chose to look at what we find attractive since it does have something to do with attraction. So all of those cached computer images and girlie magazines only cements what most of us already know. Michael Jackson liked females with very adult bodies. If any one tries to tell you that they were used for grooming that is ridiculous too. One or two girlie magazine and then a child sexual abuser moves on to what they want the child to do and that requires child porn.
To me those photos of Soon Yi Previn looking more like a twelve year old and then hiding them tells me what Woody Allen is,
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Helena the psychiatrists that say that there is nothing wrong with P******** are incredibly few and far between I am sorry to say. It is still classified as a paraphilia in the DSM-5 and it is on that basis that we petition courts in this country when these people are coming to the end of their prison sentences for civil commitment that keeps them from returning to society.
That is one of the things that many of them fight is the civil commitment and the diagnosis of being one because of the long term and indeterminate confinement.
I don’t know what it is like in other countries but here we have security facilities to hold these people in in many states.
We also have empirical science research findings that back up our long held belief that this is organic. What that means is that there are specific changes in their brains that happen when they are stimulated by what they desire. That is why certain hormones like depo provera work to contain some of the urges that they have. However that is dependent on compliance to take it. To date the only real effective treatment that works where they can be released is surgical castration and not many of them will agree to that.
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Lynande51, you are so right! I looked up some photos and this is what I found:
The note on the photo says it was made in January 1990 when Soon-Yi was ~17.
The photo comes from a magazine dated September 1992. The text cites one of Woody Allen’s friends:
Now a lot of information is being uncovered about Woody Allen’s love for young girls. In an interview of 1976 he said:
Here is another photo of Woody Allen and Soon-Yi from the same magazine, this time dated 1992.
Allen speaks at a press-conference he called to answer the allegations (August 18, 1992) and Soon-Yi is at college (August 25, 1992):
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Gel, after half a year of studying the situation around Michael Jackson I came to a conclusion that there is a huge world pedophilia lobby and that Michael fell a victim to these people. I hope very much that what we see now is the beginning of their world crumbling.
In May 2010 when a convicted child abuser Thomas O’Carroll wrote a book about MJ I made a post about Michael“He wasn’t one of them”: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/05/21/academic-assault-on-michael-jackson-he-wasnt-one-of-them/
Here is an excerpt from it:
I know that all this reading about pedophilia was tiring and unpleasant – but it was a necessary thing to do for making conclusions on the subject. Here are only some of them (please, correct me if I am wrong):
1. There is much tolerance to pedophilia both in academic circles and the upper strata of society now.
2. There are many pedophiles who are holding positions of authority and power and are easily getting away with their crimes.
3. The pedophile lobby is strong, diverse, deep-rooted and well backed by various scholars who support the idea from various scientific viewpoints – history (which says it has always been there and even brought about miracles in the society), psychiatry (which says that monkeys do it too) and even literature (which says that everything that’s ever been written about children is about pedophilia, whether it is Alice in Wonderland or Peter Pan).
4. The field work has been done: the seeds are sown, the younger generation of students is well taken care of by their older mentors and the teaching aids are written in a highly readable manner for everyone the enjoy – so it is only one last touch which is needed now.
5. The missing link is the right guy who will serve as a “poster boy” for the movement.
6. I am very much afraid that Michael Jackson has been nominated for the job – which is all the more deplorable as he cannot really refuse since he is not able to be physically present at the assembly.
7. However his previous non-support for their cause and his constant and vehement denial of ever being connected to that filth may be regarded as his disapproval of their goals and his refusal to participate.
8. In fact, with so many pedophiles being in positions of power IF Michael had ever given them a wink or a slightest hint that he was “one of them”, they would have shielded and protected him in an absolutely the same effective way they are doing it for themselves. They would have opened their arms to him and kept him safe, sound and ready for the victory day they are working for.
9. Since there are so many of them and many of them are so powerful, they would have surely known which strings to pull to check and control the MEDIA so that it doesn’t hurt their greatest, dearest and handsomest boy.
10. There wouldn’t have been any media frenzy and if any mischief on his part had been occasionally noticed it would have been passed off as a mild eccentricity which would only add to his irresistible charm.
11. The fact that Michael never took their hint and never went for what they wanted of him proves that HE WASN’T ONE OF THEM.
12. In his numerous public statements Michael made it absolutely clear that he didn’t want to be even minimally associated with their filth.
13. From the point of view of real pedophiles it was a mistake. If he hadn’t been that stubborn they could have easily excused him all his ‘peculiarities’ (if he had had them) and would have even helped some of those habits to work their way into the society as another of those ‘norms’.
14. But Michael preferred to fight for his good name and go through unthinkable suffering, the complete agony of which he was destined to know only when it started.
14. He was punished by them for being non-cooperative.
15. The fact that in spite of his 15 years of inhuman anguish he still stuck to his views and never exchanged them for a comfortable life of a half-confessed ‘lover of boys’ proves that he was INNOCENT and that the nature of his attachment to children was completely different.
16. The reason for Michael’s attachment to children was the OPPOSITE of that of pedophiles.
17. They argue that sex is inherent and exciting even to a small child, thus lowering an innocent child to the level of a horny adult – while Michael almost prayed to a child’s purity and innocence which gave him the harmony and balance he so much needed for sustaining his life and creating his music despite all the dirt he constantly faced and lived with.
Their motives and intentions are opposite in their very DIRECTION – pedophiles want to bring an innocent child down to their dirty selves, while Michael was looking for a way up to a child to acquire and maintain childlike innocence in his soul and mind.
18. Besides having a natural inclination for purity this harmony and a clean inner self were essential for his creative process without which he was unable to make his music. Clean thinking does open the way to harmony – and that is why Michael asked us in his book Dancing the dream to ‘return’ to innocence (the process which is indeed possible as some who have taken to this path will tell you).
19. He often spoke of his love for children as being similar to his love for animals which was another of his passions. We can easily understand that as some of us also prefer the company of innocent animals to the company of beastly human beings.
20. Those of us who have ever looked into the eyes of a hungry stray dog, fed it and stroke its head will understand that our compassion for this creature has nothing to do with (OMG, please forgive me) sodomy with beasts – though a sick person with twisted brains may think otherwise.
21. Even if your cat crawls into your bed while you are asleep and you find it sleeping on your pillow the next morning it does not mean that you sexually abuse animals. The only thing it means is that you forgot to close the door last night before going to bed.
22. The outward similarity of some things is what pedophile activists are using now for the purpose of getting Michael into their ranks.
23. The fact that they ventured to do it only after his death (though the book was started back in the 90s) speaks to them knowing that if he were alive they would NOT get away with such cheek.
24. He never gave in to them while he was alive – so there is no reason to regard him as ‘theirs’ after his death.
25. Michael Jackson was NORMAL while these guys are SICK (independent of what these psychiatrists will tell you).
WE SHOULD NOT SURRENDER MICHAEL TO THESE BEASTS.
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this is not related to the woody allen case but here’s a recent article on child abuse involving gov’t officials in UK. We know the British press can be the most vile to MJ when it comes to the allegations yet we don’t hear anything about this being reported much. A portion of the article states:
“He says they were organised by a paedophile ring involving David Smith, Jimmy Savile’s former chauffeur who killed himself last year before he was due to stand trial for sex offences.
He said: “It wasn’t just politicians, there were also a number of celebrities, including Jimmy Savile, who seemed to have a lot of good links to MPs and powerful businessmen.”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/453381/Female-MP-abused-boy-in-care
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Then when you are looking because photos of her throughout the years with the girls she adopted with Woody will come up. Is it just me or does the younger one bear an eerie resemblance to Dylan Farrow?
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The important question about the photos of Soon Yi Previn is not how old she was, 17 or 19, but how old she looked to Woody Allen. Go ahead and Google Soon Yi Previn 1991 photos and you will see what I mean.
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In 1996, J. Randy Taraborelli appeared on Hard Copy to talk about MTV and VH1’s decision to ban the TDCAU video. He suggested Michael felt he was being blacklisted in the industry (in America, at least) specifically because of this song. Again, note the year JRT says this:
Taraborelli: “My sources tell me that Michael fears that there are people in the industry who are trying to sabotage his career – that there are people at Sony, at VH1, and at MTV, who are intent on seeing Michael Jackson destroyed.”
Interviewer: “Why?”
Taraborelli: “There are people who are offended because of [TDCAU’s lyrics]. Those remarks have really come back to haunt Michael Jackson.”
– [Hard Copy; April 23, 1996]
In several interviews at this time, Spike Lee (who directed both prison/Brazil versions of the video) commented about the media & entertainment industry’s double standard, comparing the reaction to Quentin Tarantino’s repetitive use of the term “n*gger” in several of his films, to the avalanche of criticism towards Michael for his lyrics in TDCAU – which were completely taken out of context and misunderstood.
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Helena, you need not apologize for your English. I’ve been reading your blogs for 2 or 3 years now. They are well documented, present clear and rational perspectives, are so valuable for Michael’s community, and I have never had any difficulty understanding your English. Sometimes, in loving Michael, things just need a little clarification.
As for Robson, whose career after June 25th I used to adore watching because I knew how deeply rooted it was in the time spent with and lessons learned from Michael, I completely agree about the idiocy of his accusation. Given the twists and turns Robson has made, trying to make up and/or keep the best story in the public eye, from the beginning of it, it is even more insane.
My hope is that the Estate will be able to deny his claim, purely on grounds of its late filing. However, this is where I worry that the court will not want to appear to be trying to sweep Robson’s accusation under the rug, and so the Estate may have to represent Michael in court against Robson’s claim.
Even if the Estate is able to dismiss Robson’s late claim, I will not be surprised if a civil case for this gets to move forward. I’m not in the legal field, but I think that civil cases can be filed even if there’s no sound basis or apparent merit to the claim. Just think about all the ridiculous cases Michael had to deal with, and that his Estate has had to deal with on his behalf. Robson is clearly grabbing at straws to try to actually make some kind of believable case for himself. The fact that his attorney was so interested to speak with, for example, Michael’s housekeeper (I think), whose entire testimony was proven false in cross examination by Tom Mesereau, proves that. Still, I think we should not underestimate Robson’s familiarity with Michael. He spent enough years around Michael to know that Michael hated confrontation and, mostly if not always, preferred to settle rather than have to go to court and deal with the drama, stress and time consumed. Robson may be counting on exactly that attitude from the Estate, since it represents Michael, and is really only angling to try to get a settlement and doesn’t really want to ever go to trial with this. Well, Weitzman and Branca may represent Michael, but they are not Michael when it comes to making legal decisions and maneuvers.
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Tatum, the double standards in treating Michael and everyone else are so glaring that it seems that we are talking about two different countries.
In that Vanity Fair article there are two episodes which show the difference even in the way the justice system worked for MJ and Woody Allen.
It turns out that in Woody Allen’s case the prosecutor was actually subjected to a “mini trial” for the fact that at the final press conference he said the “child victim” and not the “child complainant” (I immediately recalled how many times Tom Sneddon said the same and not a single legal expert paid attention to it).
Quotes:
Paul Williams, another person working on the case (from the Child Welfare Administration) said that his office was pressed by the City Hall to drop the case and afterwards Woody Allen’s file disappeared from their archive:
It also turns out that Woody Allen hired ten (10) investigators to dig up dirt on the police officers handling the case:
Frankly, all of the above makes Woody Allen look like some powerful magnate (if not worse), and not just a simple film director.
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Rosalynn, I probably misunderstood you, my English is far from perfect, sorry.
As regards the justice system, pressured or not, Robson’s case is so idiotic that I cannot even imagine the judge to believe this gibberish. Robson claims that he “didn’t understand that it was abuse” even at the age 23 when he testifed at the 2005 trial, and realized it only when he was 30.
It is pure imbecility, only Robson does not produce the impression of an imbecile – he produces the impression of a person who knows what he is doing.
If the judicial system believes this delirious case it will be a diagnosis for the judicial system in the first place. In my opinion it does not matter how many claims like that arrive. Even if a hundred it will still be a clinical diagnosis.
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“But I definitely agree the media reaction concerning him was absolutely despicable compared to how Michael was vilified.”- Michael Moore
Michael Moore, actually this is the main point we are discussing here – the media double standards in respect of Michael Jackson and Woody Allen.
If the media, experts and general public react in the same restrained way to Wade Robson’s allegations as they do to Woody Allen’s case I will be happy. And Robson’s story is much crazier and much more irrational than Dylan’s account.
I’ve just reread Robson’s claim and don’t even know whether to laugh or cry. It is a story for complete idiots.
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First off, to let you know, I may have the name of the polarizing filmmaker, but I’m not him. Anyways, I’m going a bit on a limb here, and I expect to be raked over the coals a bit, but I’m gonna say it anyways. First off, regarding Woody Allen, I make no claims as to whether he is innocent or guilty. I must say, that there is indeed a considerable amount of hypocrisy on Mia Farrow’s part for blasting him but defending Roman Polanski and even considering him a lifelong friend. Recently, one of the other adopted children, Moses, officially defended Allen, saying “she trained me to hate him just for what he did to Soon-Yi.” I agree that what he did with the naked pictures is creepy and disgusting, but we must remember, their relationship was purely consensual by virtually all accounts. She was also of legal age, and thus there was nothing illegal there. And by many other accounts, Soon-Yi didn’t see Allen as a father figure at all, just her adoptive mother’s boyfriend. As for Dylan’s case, I make no judgments there, but we can agree she definitely believes that she was sexually assaulted, behaving in much the same way a true victim does, is clearly traumatized, and her letter does indeed sound like those written by confirmed victims. That said, we’ll never confirm whether something happened to implant false memories or not, or whether Allen paid off the investigating team that declared there were no credible signs of abuse. Obviously, the truth there will never be known. But I definitely agree the media reaction concerning him was absolutely despicable compared to how Michael was vilified.
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Nan, thank you for the video. Jim Clemente is drawing attention to the most essential points. The first time I hear a really expert analysis.
They discuss Woody Allen’s case from the beginning to 17:15:
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Nan, Dylan’s letter should NOT remind you of Wade Robson because they are the exact opposites of each other.
Dylan is just repeating what she ALWAYS said, while Wade Robson made an unaccounted for U-turn and “recollected” something after more than 30 years of praising Michael Jackson and even defending him in court.
But okay, let’s distance ourselves from the accusations proper and look only at the media reaction instead.
And LET US REMEMBER THIS REACTION in case Wade Robson comes up with his accusations. Let us memorize what each of these media people says now and throw it into their faces in case they start a new hysteria against Jackson.
– Will Barbara Walters brush off all accusations and side with Michael Jackson saying what a splendid father he was (like she is now saying it of Woody Allen)?
– Will Diane Dimond restrain everybody and say “not so fast” and “we need to know real facts before reaching an opinion”?
– Will all these people say that it is a purely “personal matter” of Michael Jackson and no one else’s business?
Let us make a list of everyone who is talking now in support of Woody Allen and register each of their statements. These statements may come in very handy in the future.
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And this is DD’s contribution to this story:
How extremely interesting, Susannerb. So this champion of morality, who believed each word of Michael’s accusers without asking for any proof, is now disbelieving the account of Dylan Farrow?
I don’t expect Diane Dimond to call Woody Allen names, but there should be at least some consistency in her actions. Previously she never hesitated to act against Michael on totally unverified information and now she is calling for restraint towards Woody Allen?
I would understand her position in case each time they say to us “not so fast please” they also add something like “We need to be careful because remember what we did to Michael Jackson?”
But they are not saying that! Moreover, if you ask Diane Dimond about MJ she will continue to whip him with one hand all the time embracing Woody Allen with the other.
These are DOUBLE STANDARDS AT THEIR WORST.
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Sina, I know what they will answer to it – that the girl was not a minor (she was 17-19?) and that he was not her stepfather, as she was the adoptive daughter of Mia’s previous husband.
But it doesn’t make things easier at all.
Woody Allen and Mia were not married, but they were together for 12 years. It means that since ~ age 7 this girl was a kind of a stepdaughter to Allen and he was her father figure. He was practically raising this girl and it was after 12 years of a father/daughter relationship that he made pornographic pictures of her and kept them on his mantelpiece for enjoyment.
What kind of a father figure was that? This is what I call perversion.
But even that is only half the story. Whatever was the case with Soon Yi why are they discussing her while it was Dylan who made those accusations?
Dylan was only 7 years old, so why is everyone pretending that the whole thing is only about Soon Yi?
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I wanted to put this video out , that is an interview with Jim Clemente and Alison Hope Weiner… regarding Dylans open letter ..
you may recall Mr Clemente , who seems like a very nice guy, is the one who was supposed to testify against Mj in 2005 and still believes he committed crimes.
I like that Alison counters with questions , instead of just assuming the accusations against Woody Allen are true,
I dont know the truth regarding the accusations, I do recall it was a really bitter ending to a very strange relationship between Mia and Woody and that they never even lived together.
I also think it is strange that her son Ronan would tweet these accusations , just as the Golden Globes are in the middle of the segment honoring Allen.., before his sister made any statement.And he has a new tv show starting on MSNBC.
Why wait 20 years until that specific moment to bring all this painful stuff up?
Reminds me of Wades timing for the accusations.
There is something else afoot here to me, that the timing of this stuff is at such an advantageous time for the Farrell camp
And then her letter shaming people who had worked and praised him? just seems strange to me.
Ronan was also on Bill Maher on HBO last Friday ,looking very happy that he is in the spotlight , no mention was made of these accusations when he was on the show , yet he was tweeting about it.
Why not take that opportunity to talk about it, when there are people who can ask you questions about it.
I dont like how they have been given a platform , and yet , no one gets to ask them any questions.
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Mia also recently made a public statement that he may be Frank Sinatra son, not Woody Allens , ..lots of strange stuff with all these people..
I recall the prosecutor in the Allen case , didnt go forward and yet he sent a notice to the judge regarding his opinions or something, that reminded me of Sneddon having no case and yet calling LMP mother with his suspicions and then of course he was all over the place looking for other victims..
And the underage naked pictures of the daughter who eventually married Woody….
I would think if she was underage at the time they were taken , he would be in a jail cell .
this is something else that never got to court like the Chandler stuff, so there is a lot of speculation out there,.but I havent really studied these accusations
I will wait and see what transpires..
I an just contrasting the coverage on tv to the way MJ was vilified and people like Walters, can take the same kind of innuendo , and destroy Mj and protect Allen..
I have come to the conclusion that Barbara Walters is the last person , who ever should have been on tv casting moraljudgements about anyone, given her track record as well.
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I think it is interesting , in this video,how no matter what , Mr Clemente ,seems to be able to ignore some exculpatory suggestions and is certain this child is telling the truth.I think it was because he is still suffering from the abuse he dealt with as a child, because it would seem to me , once accused,,,,you cant recover.Especially with Mr Clemente.
Mr Clemente says children over , I think he said 5 dont lie..
How about if your father is making demands for money, threatening to destroy a celebrity career, before YOU have actually made any accusations and the celebrity is saying it is extortion, which could send your father to jail , and leave your family totally devastated?like JC.
Or you come from a family like the Arvizos, who dont spend quality time as a family , going bowling together, but going shoplifting together…..instead, and have been brought up to support their parents lies for money?
I just think it is very interesting how this interview goes, when someone like Mr Clemente is not given a platform to voice his opinions, without a little counter point.to his opinions
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Interesting that later when they cover Bieber , Alison also says he is a big rich target, and the civil suits will keep coming.
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Here is the interview of Corey Feldman where he speaks about the powerful players in Hollywood who molest children and that there was one gentleman in this industry who did NOT take advantage of him and that was MICHAEL JACKSON – and all Barbara Walters has to say to it is this:
“You are damaging an entire industry!”
The interview has been added to the post now together with its transcript:
FELDMAN: I’m saying that there are people that did this to both me and Corey Haim that are still working, that are still out there, and they are some of the richest and most powerful people in this business.
WALTERS: And they are predators?
FELDMAN: And they do not want me say what I’m saying right now.
WALTERS: Are you saying that they are pedophiles?
FELDMAN: Yes.
WALTERS: And that they are still in this business?
FELDMAN: YES. And they don’t want me here right now. They want me dead.
SHERRI SHEPHERD: And that’s what you are saying in your book. When you talk to parents…Corey.. There are a lot of parents out there who want to put their kids in this business. Their kids are cute, they are great actors. What will you say to parents who have their best of intentions who’re coming there with their child? Are you saying there are many predators in this industry?
FELDMAN: It’s a many feathered bird, okay? Be careful what you wish for – that’s what I’ll tell you. You know, don’t go into it with naivety, don’t go into it thinking that it’s all roses and …
WALTERS: You are damaging an entire industry!
FELDMAN: I’m sorry, I’m not trying to. I’m just trying to say it’s a very important, serious topic.
SHEPHERD: There is one gentleman in this industry who did NOT take advantage of you. He was not a pedophile. You said it was Michael Jackson.
FELDMAN: Of all people.
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The question should be : how often does a stepfather make pornograpic pictures of his MINOR stepdaughter ,is caught redhanded and gets away with it.
This is all about who pulls the strings and connections. It always works to start a smearcampaign against your opponent, then use your media friends to support you, case closed. Never mind its the same media who still fuel the public doubt about Michael Jacksons innocence.
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And this is DD’s contribution to this story:
What else can be expected from this demon!
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Do you know what Barbara Walters said on a TV program when Corey Feldman spoke about his molestation by some Hollywood people?
She accused him of damaging the entire industry. And he replied that he was sorry – he was not trying to.
The industry is what she is protecting and the fate of children is the last thing she is worrying about. So it’s no wonder she considers the story of a 7-year-old a “personal matter”.
By the way I think that it was Barbara Walters who made an introduction to Martin Bashir’s film about MJ. At that time she didn’t consider Michael’s “issues” a personal matter.
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“I saw Barbara Walters on a clip of the VIEW taking up , for ,her good friend, Woody Allen. I am dumbfounded by how these people can vilify MJ” – Nan
I’ve looked up what Barbara Walters is saying and am also dumbfounded by her arguments. The double standards in respect of MJ and Woody Allen are stunning. She asked:
“the question is: does you personal life interfere with the awards you may get?”
So when it is Woody Allen it is “personal life” and when it is Michael Jackson it is everyone’s business up to a point that they demand that his children should be taken away from him?
These double standards are DISGUSTING. Look how Walters tries to reduce the matter to a family issue. And why are they talking of Soon-Yi only while it was a 7-year old who was allegedly abused?
What’s also interesting is that not a single person recalls that Woody Allen made pornographic pictures of Soon-Yi.
Let me ask each woman here a question: How often does your partner make photos of you with your legs spread? I may be naive or old-fashioned but I’ve never heard of it.
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Nina, I hope that by now no one is doubting that it is a cover up of the truth. One should be completely blind and deaf not to see what’s going on and I regret if some people have not discarded their illusions yet.
And the idea that Robson may be threatened or blackmailed in some way may indeed be true. It seems to me that much will depend on the final outcome of the AEG trial. If the powerful prove that their power is indeed unlimited some people may be tempted to conform and tell a lie to ensure themselves a comfortable life.
As to the media likening Phillips Hoffman’s 50+ bags of heroin to Michael Jackson’s lorazepam and valium prescribed by a doctor this stretch of the truth is a complete SHAME – shame on the media, the country and human beings in general.
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Thank you for the info, I am blocked form DD twitter and FB, so I didnt know that.
As far as Roman Polanski..Roman did admit it , and if I remember correctly, he did admit to it , and was supposed to get a plea deal, and the judge backed out of it , so he ran off.
I cant remember on what documentary I saw that.
With Mj he refused to be extorted by Evan Chandler , even to the extent of having to drop his pants to prove his innocence…unbelievable.
And he stayed where he lived under the dangerous jurisdiction of Tom Sneddon.He could have lived anywhere in the world but refused to be run out of town by that nut..
I wish he had moved out of that nut jobs jurisdiction.
Because I cant imagine anyone else going forward with these ridiculous accusations
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Helena, it seems I wasn’t as clear with my words as I thought I was. I absolutely have no doubt about Michael’s innocence of the allegations and charges brought against him. Those who have read any of my writing for Michael, which is, at this point, primarily posted as Notes on my Facebook page, know that. My point here was that I anticipate that the justice system will feel pressured to hear Robson out, to give him opportunity to prove his credibility, so it doesn’t appear to be taking up for Michael, and they will feel this way simply because there have been other allegations and therefore, many, misguided and misinformed as they are, will be clambering, “Here’s yet another accusation. Poor man, couldn’t dare come forward until Jackson was dead. This proves Jackson’s guilt!, etc.” And the media, of course, will be milking this, or perhaps creating it is more correct, for all it’s worth.
I will say that, though I agree humanity is, once again, being brought to a point where it can not only show it is able to differentiate between good and evil but that it can choose good over evil, and though Michael cannot, anymore, personally be dragged through any charge or trial against him, Michael, as the symbol and voice and power of good/innocence/ justice/love is still very much on trial, and will be repeatedly into the future, until the scales tip in favor of truth and actual justice when the majority voice of humanity knows Michael’s motives, actions, and heart. I don’t see that day coming anytime soon, but I will continue, alongside millions of others such as yourself, to work and pray for its arrival.
Helena, I was complimenting you for the fact that you so beautifully made your statement and case, without venturing into the topic of racism, where you could justifiably have gone because, as you said, “the racial element in Michael’s harassment is obvious.”
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This is no different from when the Hollywood community was sticking up for Roman Polanski. This is someone who admitted he had sex with a 12 year old, convicted but was allowed to hang out in France. I remember watching one of the shows and the host said we wont talk about this (Polanski issues) because the family is having a hard time. I was so furious by that comment because we couldn’t even mourn Michael’s death without the media bringing up the allegations. They sure didn’t care about his children or his family.
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@Nan
If you check on Dimond’s twitter account (I am not on twitter – I check her twitter to see what bs she is up to) she is encouraging people to read the Daily Beast article where she gives a link to the article and states – “know real facts B4 reaching opinion”.
So it seems she is trying to give the impression of being a fair and impartial “journalist”, when, in truth, as we are all aware, nothing could be more ridiculous.
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I would also be very interested to see if Diane Dimond writes a scathing article on Woody Allen, regarding these accusations.
I believe the Daily Beast is out of NYC , as is DD.
Seems to me she is a very selective crusader against people who abuse children , so lets see if she speaks up for this accusation..
When she had her article regarding the baloney in the English tabloid, Roger Friedman not only called her out on the article , but her editor Tina Brown as well.
Diane , after all , is just a foot soldier, there are higher ups that decide what is published and what isnt.
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I saw Barbara Walters on a clip of the VIEW taking up , for ,her good friend, Woody Allen.
I am dumbfounded by how these people can vilify MJ who stood trial for 5 months and had his entire house and lifestyle scrutinized and yet Woody Allen deserves a measured response.
Susanne.
As far as MJ lyrics , with the They dont care about us song, and the lines regarding kick me k@ke me etc, Im sure that did anger some very powerful people in the Entertainment business,, as well as people who are in the legal profession.
.I think Steven Speilberg was angry with him about those lyrics, and alot of other old friends
Evan was Jewish , as was Barry Rothman, Larry Feldman , Robert Shapiro,Stanley Katz…
Maybe he was lashing out at those people, with those lines ..
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Then when the Arvizo came along , Jamie Mesada brought them to Dickerman, who brought them back to Feldman and Katz.
Dickerman even states on the stand that he was very angry because Mark Geragos , while representing MJ , had things delivered to his office, knowing it was the high Jewish holidays , and he wouldnt be able to respond..
He was insulted by that.
Louise Palanker also very pro Arvizo.
Zonen made a point of saying he watched the raid on tv from the King David Hotel in Israel, All these people were Jewish so Im sure they didnt appreciate the lyrics,
He did write the DS Cold Man song about Sneddon , which I am sure got under his skin also..
Lets just say , that could have antagonized some people..
People who know how to manipulate the justice system..
Woody Allen is Jewish and he is a big name in NYC and it has a huge Jewish population , so that could also be why there are people on tv, , sticking up for him ., getting airtime..
Come to think of it, Barbara Walters is Jewish too.
So who knows…
MJ was very powerful also , but he was an outsider .,,He wanted to make a positive impact on the world , and say money should be used to help others …
And to me it was like a corporate raid , because they wanted to destroy his brand and take his power.
Woody Allen doesnt get the draw , that MJ does, he doesnt have the assets MJ does, he doesnt have the fan base for ratings the way MJ does.
And his doesnt have the earning potential that MJ still does, so MJ is like magnet for all these greedy people, even now..
If anyone had told me , that with all these people desperately trying to pin something on MJ, when he was alive, and people offering to get their clients MILLIONS of dollars, all you have to do is come forward, and nobody except the ridiculous Arvizo make a claim …
And then WR would make this pathetic money grab, and it might make it into a court of law, I wouldnt have believed it..but Mj still makes tons of money for everybody , so they still try and push WR BS, because people wont walk away from the tv as long as something is being said about MJ.
I dont think Wade Robson wants to go to court ..I think he is hoping for a settlement , like the Chandlers got , since Weitzman is the lawyer , just like in 93 , and Branca has a fudicualry responsibility to generate money for the estate .
He is hoping they will settle to avoid damage to their product/MJ
I am hoping the estate lawyers realize , accusations wont destroy his fan base, but giving in to wade will.
Wade lawyers may hope the estate think it more cost efficient , but isnt in the long run, because the fans will not support the estate imo, and they will lose money on future projects
AEG trial had begun when he started this stuff, but his estate was just promoting those Vegas shows..
So I think that was his attempt to show how powerful his accusations could effect them financially , but it didnt work and Vegas was and remains a success.
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I’m taking a risk of being misunderstood, but doesn’t Woody Allen have Jewish background? Don’t get me wrong. I love all races and nationalities just as MJ did. I don’t know if Woody Allen is innocent or guilty. But it has always been said that Jewish people are powerful in America. Especially in the media and entertainment business. Who knows, maybe that’s why Woody Allen wasn’t treated like MJ in the media. Or maybe I’m wrong. I’m not sure, just a thought. “Jew me, sue me……”, lyrics from MJ’s song “They don’t really care about us”.
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I’ve said the following before, as some may remember. When I read that Wade Robson was employed by, or had been employed by AEG, it was as clear as could be, that he was being blackmailed or threatened in some way, to blacken Michael’s name in respect of the Katherine Jackson v AEG trial over the responsibility for Michael’s death. Then there was the jury verdict manipulation, and on the news yesterday during coverage of the death of the actor in New York, it was reported that Michael Jackson’s death had been due to his addiction to pain killers; no mention was made of Conrad Murray or Propofol. It is all one huge cover up of the truth, and so infuriating. The question is why, to which I could answer is that AEG may still have to defend themselves if Katherine is successful in her appeal to the High Court for another trial and are thinking ahead..
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Rosalynn Smith, I’m not sure I’m getting you. MJ was not a child m*lester and any person with a pure heart knows it. What’s happening now is actually not the trial of Michael Jackson – it is the trial of humanity for our ability to differentiate the good from evil.
I generally don’t talk about it because the racial element in Michael’s harassment is obvious. Sort of an axiom which does not require any proof.
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“Thankfully we now live in a different society and protocol is very different from what my friend went through over 30 years ago and maybe a different outcome would have happened for Dylan and Cory in present times.” – Helen-Marie
Helen-Marie, unfortunately I’m not sure that the situation today is better than 30 years ago. Some information says that it is worse. All these protocols can help to protect children from strangers in the street but most of abuse takes place within families.
See this Pennsylvania University report of 2002:
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“Weide himself describes someone whose indifference is part of his character, who does not feel guilt, who is very self-confident, non-sensitive and unimpressed what people think about him, who feels nothing can happen to him and who wouldn’t think for a minute about a victim… this characterization is much more typical for a predator than for an innocent person falsely accused.” – Susannerb
Susannerb, I absolutely agree. Look at one more detail provided by the judge in Woody Allen’s child custody case – it is expressing exactly the same thought:
And here is an example how a boy was suffering from stress in connection with Allen. Look at his reaction to the news that visits with his father will have to be resumed – it was a physiological reaction, the one over which the boy had no control. He practically fainted:
Do I need to remind everybody that children never fainted in Michael’s presence but were drawn to him as if to a magnet (June Chandler’s words)? No fear, no nothing – he was just a great pal of theirs.
Corey Feldman said that with Michael Jackson he once again felt “like a 10-year old”
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Yes, I know – the traumatic event may be anything. And all people who had some trauma in their life can relate this situation to themselves.
A mere thought about it makes people sick and this is why they avoid talking about it. And avoid the person who caused it in the first place and will trigger it off again – even if a century has passed since the event.
This avoidance is also typical and here is another example from Vanity Fair about Dylan Farrow telling us how the prosecutor tried to talk to the girl:
And now I urge everyone to remember how easily Jordan Chandler talked for hours and hours on end with Dr. Richard Gardner and how emotionlessly he discussed all that fake “molestation” of his. When the doctor asked him if he had any fears, he sounded even surprised – there were no fears, “except probably of a cross-examination”.
This alone was a huge red flag in Jordan’s case and I have no doubt whatsoever that Dr. Gardner made a negative conclusion about Jordan’s credibility.
As to Wade Robson it is enough to read his testimony in 2005 and note his easy manner at the trial to understand that it was then that he was telling the truth and not now.
And anyone can perfectly see it with their own eyes – you don’t need to be an Einstein to see what’s what here.
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What you experienced and Dylan experienced are very common with PTSD.It has to do with memory and triggers to out memory of a traumatic event. I don’t want to say a lot but triggers can come from anything because a memory is about what all five of our senses take in at a specific time. And there is a lot to that.
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Exactly. EXACTLY. He would have displayed it long ago. By now I have read the full Vanity Fair article of November last year and there are some details about Dylan Farrow which show what this post traumatic stress condition is all about. For example:
One time, the sight of a boy at school wearing a Woody Allen T-shirt sent Dylan into a fit of vomiting.
Or this:
To this day it’s hard for me to listen to jazz,” Dylan told me. “He [Allen] would take me with him [when he practiced the clarinet with his band]. I’d be in between his legs, facing out. I felt like a dog or something. I was just told to sit there. I did what I was told. He used to sing to me the famous song ‘Heaven’ [“Cheek to Cheek,” by Irving Berlin]. It really sends shivers up and down my spine and makes me want to throw up, because it’s a throwback.”
This throwback is something I myself recently experienced when some circumstances reminded me of an especially traumatic period of my life. Just one phone-call from the people associated with it and a possibility of a similar situation arising again shattered me into pieces. I thought I had been well over it and here I was experiencing it again as if it had never gone away – all the nausea and cold sweat of it. It took me just a few seconds to get into that state again. Just a few seconds. I couldn’t even believe it.
This is the power of stress and emotions. You can’t tell your body not to sweat – it will happen all the same because it is beyond your mind’s control. All your will power cannot stop nausea or the blood suddenly throbbing in your head. This is why Dylan had such a reaction to Allen – the old stress overwhelmed her each time she saw an image of him and this is why she sought help from a doctor.
And all these symptoms is how we know that there was this stress in her life, because you cannot fake it, same as you cannot fake sweating. What she is describing is absolutely genuine.
Do we see anything like that in Wade Robson? Not a single time. NEVER.
And not a single time did we see it in Jordan Chandler either.
I am absolutely sure that Wade Robson is not only doing research of special literature but is being consulted by professional experts to be able to fake his “molestation” more or less convincingly. They are going about it in a serious way.
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Helena Post Traumatic Stress Disorder has some very specific symptoms. If Wade had PTSD it would have been evident a very long time ago. It would have been evident to his family and to the public.
Instead we have a young man that was extremely successful in his own right. He was the Golden Boy of dance. He had very famous clients and he had shows of his own. Suddenly we are supposed to believe that the ‘brainwashing” Michael did has made it impossible for him to work? I won’t say anything else about that on the open forum because like you said they are listening and reading what we write.
But it would be very easy to research something like abuse on the internet wouldn’t it? I mean there are hundreds of support groups online with forums where survivors of child sexual abuse can go for comfort. Some of them are gender specific There are a lot of books out there about child sexual abuse.So is it unrealistic to think that Wade might have gone to these? No it isn’t.
What is peculiar to me about his accusation is that it follows a familiar theme. The same theme that certain members of the media have been trying to put over as facts about Michael for a long time. So my next question would be, where would he go or who might have reached out to him to get him to go along with this?
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A very painful article to read and my heart goes out to those who have gone through such horrendous experiences.
One of the comments Corey Feldman made which stood out for me was…
“the number one problem in Hollywood was, and is, and always will be paedophilia.”
This is a startling statement and one which may explain why Michaels accusers were listened to so quickly and why a media circus ensued with such ferocity. I am not excusing them for what they did and a hate campaign is a different mentality altogether, but Corey’s statement explains a lot.
A similar situation has occurred here in the UK regarding such cases, with the well known Jimmy Savile case serving as a catalyst for many accusations to be made towards stars in the entertainment business. The press has had a field day, but as we have seen not all are legitimate claims and innocent lives have been damaged by those who have lied.
When Michael died I said to my Husband, if Michael was guilty, (which I do not believe), this would be the time that his victims would come forward, and what happened? Nothing.
Later, my husband pointed out that if this didn’t exonerate him then nothing ever would and I am inclined to agree.
When I was at senior school a friend who was 13 at the time confided to me that her father had been abusing her for many years and she made me swear not to tell anyone. I was shocked, but the fear in her eyes and the relief of sharing the information was evident. Of course I told my mother and she in turn approached the school, but my friend was not believed and it broke the family in two and she was put into care.
I always felt I was somehow to blame and had let my friend down, but of course in adulthood I see it from a very different perspective. Indeed, the father went on to abuse other children and has now been sentenced to prison.
Thankfully we now live in a different society and protocol is very different from what my friend went through over 30 years ago and maybe a different outcome would have happened for Dylan and Cory in present times. Who knows, perhaps present protocols are why Wade Robson’s case is even being given the time of day.
Woody Allen was a very influential film maker at the time and the allegations against him would have made for a very nervous Hollywood. If convicted he may have used information on ‘others’ as leverage if what Cory Feldman states is correct.
Lets hope the truth prevails.
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Great post, Helena. Very important.
I’ve read Robert Weide’s whole piece on The Daily Beast and was caught by his description of Woody Allen’s reaction to these accusations and the media interest in general, which show another big difference:
“Because he doesn’t go online, he was blissfully unaware of how much ink (sorry, bandwidth) the story was getting. If he had known, he still wouldn’t have cared. Mia’s accusations were old business, and the fact that Ronan was publicly chiming in meant nothing to Woody, who hadn’t even seen his (alleged) son for 20 years. I also knew Woody would never publicly respond to any of this. His indifference to the gossip has always struck me not as a decision so much as an involuntary and organic reaction. In fact, during a written exchange that day in which I mentioned the tweet attack, he was more focused on giving me advice about a stye I had on my eyelid that I joked was probably a brain tumor.” (quote Weide)
Weide says Allen’s indifference to the gossip is an “organic reaction”, and with this he himself describes someone whose indifference is part of his character, who does not feel guilt, who is very self-confident, non-sensitive and unimpressed what people think about him, who feels nothing can happen to him and who wouldn’t think for a minute about a victim. I don’t say Allen is guilty because I don’t know, but this characterization is much more typical for a predator than for an innocent person falsely accused.
This described behavior is not typical for people who are falsely accused of child molestation. We know from many cases where people falsely accused of this most serious and despicable crime are shattered and broken and even think of suicide, like this story of Irish music manager Louis Walsh shows: http://smokewithoutfiremichaeljackson.wordpress.com/2011/11/06/the-effects-of-being-falsely-accused/
Michael also was devastated by these allegations, it was a living hell for him and he never recovered from it. Many lives were destroyed by false molestation allegations, but obviously not Woody Allen’s life.
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But there is one thing I need to say now. I’ve noticed that Dylan was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder only last year when she approached a therapist, and on the face of it it might look like it is similar to Robson’s case.
No, it is not. Dylan remembered that sex abuse all her life and could not live with her memories haunting her. This is why she approached a doctor who diagnosed her with an anxiety disorder.
But this Robson liar claims something totally different – he went into a depression (or something of the kind), approached a therapist and in the course of some “treatment” suddenly recalled horrendous things. He claimed a “repressed memory” case – at least in the initial variant of his story (which constantly changes).
So the big difference between Dylan and Wade is that Dylan ALWAYS remembered her abuse and sought a therapy for its after-effects, while Wade claims he forgot what he was doing from the age of 7 to 14 though he was repeatedly asked about it just at that time.
The whole thing is absurd, same as it would be absurd to suddenly find out that at the age of 10 you committed a murder and then forgot about it.
Imagine that you feel depressed and go to a doctor and he subjects you to some “treatment” and then announces to you that when you were ten years old you accidentally killed someone, but then forgot about it and this is why you are depressed now because you are suffering from some “guilt syndrome”. If this story becomes public some idiots can even believe it.
Under certain circumstances even you can start believing this story if the doctor brainwashes you bad enough. With the present means of affecting people’s mind unfortunately anything is possible.
But to any more or less reasonable person the whole thing will still remain absurd.
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Lynette, happy to hear from you again. Of course I fully agree that Wade Robson is lying. Considering the facts of the case and Robson’s words and behavior it cannot be anything different. I’m simply not talking about it not to give this beast new ideas and a chance to adjust his story to them. If we say all of it now he will be fully equipped with fabricated “facts” to disprove our arguments already voiced here.
This is why I am simply waiting – to be ready when (or if) there is a need for an answer.
I will be happy to know your ideas too, but it is indeed better to discuss them via emals. In the case of Wade Robson I’m sure that he and the people standing behind him are following everything Michael’s supporters are saying.
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lynande51, you make a very good point. In order to “stage” the accusation effectively, specifics must be in place. To my thinking, that requires one of two things. Either the accuser has to gather key data (in Michael’s case there is so much intel available derived from prior accusations, that can be studied to create, as in fabricate, the scenario), or the therapist has to be in collusion with the accuser. I think either situation, or a combination of both, is plausible. What a world we live in.
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That should read affect congruent/incongruent to speech.
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Helena it been so long since I commented here. I have been very busy these several months while you were so tirelessly covering the AEG trial and what a superb job you did with it.
First I would like to say that this a an excellent post on the comparison of the two cases. This woman never forgot and as a child always understood that it was happening to her was not right.
Then compare the confusing repressed/not repressed but did not understand that it was wrong that is Wade Robson’s story now. I haven’t spoken out about what it is that makes Wade’s story so unbelievable but I know that if you ask the psychologists in your family they will be able to tell you what I mean when I say affect congruent to context of the speech is what I was looking at when I watched him in the interview in May.
Another thing that I want to ask or to say that is somewhat cryptic is this statement. I think that we are all in agreement that Wade is lying now am I correct? If that is the case and someone would like to make a late false claim where would they go to get the details that he would need to tell a therapist.
I would like the readers of your blog to think about that and I will also contact you by email with an outline of an idea that I have.
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Helena, this is a heart-breaking read, for Dylan (of course), the two Coreys, for our hearts for Michael. I so pray that this kind of clarity of point finds the way to the judge in the Wade Robson matter. Giving them all the benefit of the doubt, in general, judges are human and hope to make right decisions and, certainly, never want to not take an accusation lightly or dismissively. That said, there will be a tremendous amount of pressure to not “let Michael Jackson off the hook” in reference to Robson because, after all, how many accusations must there be before it’s realized that Michael Jackson was, indeed, a child molester – even though there has never been any, any shred of proof of that. The sickening truth is, of course, that accusers can feel comfortable coming out of the woodwork now that Robson has broken the ice, so to speak, and since Michael can no longer, physically, stand in his own defense.
I also want to note that, in paralleling Michael’s and Allen’s histories regarding similar accusations, you, perhaps intentionally, made absolutely no mention of the baseless suffering Michael endured being in any way founded in racist attitudes or behaviors. However, as a 7th decade WASP, I will say it aloud: there is no way to avoid believing that many negative, damaging, damning realities of Michael’s life arose out of and were nurtured by a racist mentality. The more I learn about what was inflicted on Michael Jackson, as regards the molestation accusations and also other matters, such as extortion attempts aimed at milking the Michael Jackson money-tree (which not only Evan Chandler but also other litigants, certain of Michael’s employees and handlers and, most likely, powerful persons in the music industry and business world boldly and with a sense of entitlement tried to achieve against Michael), the more clear this truth becomes. It is a pitiful commentary on mankind that we would rather rob ourselves of the bounty someone planned to bestow upon us than accept it from “one of them”. Hearts need to change – for our well-being, and even for the well-being of those embracing such grievous mentality.
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The only thing I want say is that in the photographs of Dylan as a child with Woody Allen, she looks very unhappy and uncomfortable and faraway, preoccupied. I’m sure what she is saying is true. I never liked Woody Allen. I thought he looked a creepy, ugly, weird individual. Still he must have had something for Mia Farrow to get involved with him. He was a rich white guy, of course.
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In addition to the Open Letter by Dylan Farrow, published on the blog of Nicholas Kristof, a respected journalist and columnist for the New York Times, there is another column by Robert Weide, published in the Daily Beast a few days before the Open Letter. It shows another side to the Farrow-Allen War of words and actions.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html
The NY Times Public Editor has raised questions as to whether Kristof, a longtime close friend of Mia Farrow, should have used his forum-blog to post the Open Letter which re-accuses Allen of molestation. There were some 3700+ reader responses to the Open Letter. I read some of them hoping NOT to see any reference to Michael Jackson, but especially not in the context of, “… these rich, famous guys get away with everything because they’re rich and famous.” I didn’t see any, but somehow it’s unlikely that there isn’t at least one Jackson reference in 3700 responses.
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