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The adventures of Michael Jackson’s defenders in the world of his haters

December 2, 2015

Recently all those who read, comment and write in this blog were stunned to find that it was suddenly suspended. And a couple of days later all of us were similarly stunned to suddenly find it back.

What happened?

The way I understand it Michael Jackson’s haters wanted to have the blog taken down and complained to WordPress that our reserve wordpress blogs were “spam” intended to promote the main site, and this is why the whole bunch of them should be taken down.

The WordPress looked it up, suspended the reserve blogs but restored the main one. So the bad news is that now we have only one blog (with no back-ups and no archives for the earlier posts), but the good news is that now this website is the only one and unique.

It means that if haters go on impersonating us (read about it in a post about Fake vindicatemj blogs, please) you will at least know that all those other “vindicatemjs” and their sites are fake and their links will take you to nothing else but haters’ black hole where all of them reside – the site about the so-called “facts” about Michael, which are actually lies about him. 

To safeguard ourselves from more surprises from these good people I think it wouldn’t be a bad idea to copy to your computers the posts you like most (if any) – together with the comments please. If it comes to the worst we will collect and put them together on another host service calling them “the essential truth about Michael Jackson” or something of the kind.

This will help to create a sort of a database of facts for a new generation of Michael’s defenders who will take over from us and start where we left. The struggle for Michael’s good name will have to be long and the lifetime of present MJ’s defenders will probably not be enough for it.

While I was looking for ways to retrieve some of our posts together with their comments (there are some 340 posts here written by me alone) I also learned a couple of interesting things about the modus operandi of Michael’s haters.

First of all, it turned out that they are closely “monitoring” the suspension of the blog – which is no wonder of course, as it is them who made it happen in the first place. And though the situation itself was not that funny, this piece in their writings (on Topix) made me burst out laughing:

threat to extradite to the US

“I believe she lives in Russia, so she’s probably not going to be extradited to the USA any time soon, but she can still be sued”

First of all, all facts provided in this blog are supported by documents which haters themselves would never like to see and make available to the public, so suing me would be a great chance to draw attention to these true facts about Michael’s innocence.

And secondly, those who follow the latest news will understand the humor of the situation. By the way, do they extradite to the US with the family or all alone? I would prefer with the family, please.

The next interesting thing I stumbled upon is a special anonymizer tool that helps haters to hide the real IP address when opening this site. What surprised me most is that this tool was special for vindicatemj.wordpress.com –  it sprang on me ready-made on the first page of Google search results when I was innocently looking for our archives.

Here is the screenshot:

anonymizer for vindicatemj blog

Previously I knew of the existence of such anonymizers but didn’t know that they are so widely used by people reading this blog. For some reason Michael Jackson’s haters don’t want to show what country they come from and evidently make so wide a use of this anonymizer that it turned into a really popular tool that comes first in your search.

Now I understand why MJ haters don’t believe that I am Russian – they themselves are extremely keen on hiding their true identity when they visit Michael’s defenders.

What is the idea of the game? Is it the need to constantly change their identity, country and username hiding the fact that they are one and the same person,  or is it simply the haters’ inherent inability to tell the truth in any of its forms?

By the way another encounter during my search, this time with information about the so-called “facts” blog about Michael,  showed that 81% of their readers are in Australia. Well, Wade Robson is there, his present supporters are there, the haters’ blog is also there – so they are a closely-knit group, aren’t they?

The little adventure this blog has gone through made it clear that these people are not going to leave us alone and that they are on a major offensive against MJ’s defenders, which is the best proof that we are on the right track.

However, considering that their plan to do away with us was only half-successful,  it seems that our adventures are not over yet.

So brace yourselves for more of it guys, especially as we are getting closer and closer to the final big fight over Robson and Safechuck’s lawsuits.

But whatever it is, remember just one thing only – don’t worry about the outcome of this struggle for the truth. Truth will prevail anyway and the only question here is how long it will take.

70 Comments leave one →
  1. May 30, 2016 4:32 pm

    I just subscribed to your blog and I’m soo Thankful🙂 for providing well researched facts. I read your comment on it being free, but Is it entirely secure -Wordpress can just shut it down unannounced? (or so I read, Im no techie). I have this gut feeling that most abhorrent haters, well you know are just haters- they know their ‘arguments’ are baseless but they are crafty and they seem to be more interested in willfully displaying their hate for Michael and they do. This is just appalling. Anyone vindicating reason, good judgment and Love would vindicate Michael. Thanks again Helena.
    Love and support all the way from India.

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  2. Esmeralda Rokaj permalink
    January 28, 2016 11:53 am

    I love this blog and I have a deep respect for you Helena. Thank you for all your posts. I’m sure that one day there will be full justice for Michael Jackson,starting from Evan Chandler who killed himself. For whatever reason, I think it was his payoff for what he did to Michael and it’s just the beginning. All those who wanted to destroy that man will go down, while the memory of MJ, the legend, the music, the dance, his legacy, his fans, will just keep growing. This is why we’ve won. RIP Michael Jackson.God bless you all who love him and believe in him.

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  3. susannerb permalink*
    January 24, 2016 1:07 pm

    Thank you, A.K.Staggers, for this information. Looking forward to your writing, please let us know about it. It sounds interesting.

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  4. January 24, 2016 1:54 am

    I was doing some research gor an article and came across one of these fake blogs that claimed it was “objective” and upon questioning their use (and understanding) of the term, they attacked. It makes me think and wonder where all this hate stems from. This pre-dates any of the accusations. Those just gave them an excuse to go on a rampage. But I think I am going to explore that in my writing. It is convoluted and complex, bit I think I know why. And the more complex an issue, the better my wwriting. Will keep you posted.

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  5. December 25, 2015 1:09 am

    You got that right, lol. Donald Trump is a joke. And the evil is beaming through him strongly behind his good messages and promises. He’s an animal abuser as well. He kills animals for trophies, him and his sons. To be honest, this is a very evil world, our government is evil, etc. This is my opinion. Let’s pray for peace, love, and happiness. Merry Christmas! And God bless you❤.

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  6. D.Koutris permalink
    December 24, 2015 6:16 am

    Dear Helena,don’t give up on us, and don’t say you don’t know what love is because you DO.You practice love with all you do,and if you feeling all these emotions its okay its normal you only a human.And you know what Michael can help,just go and watch maybe an interview to hear him talking or something that his surrounded with children and watch his face and you feel peace,it works for me.Painful experiences come from thorns that wound us,they makes us forget they also have roses.Yet we cannot expect to enjoy life’s color,beauty and fragrance,without accepting the thorny challenges and learning how to deal with them.Its hard i know but you need to smile even tho your heart is breaking.Be strong and be good to your self.

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  7. susannerb permalink*
    December 24, 2015 4:30 am

    I also wish Merry Christmas to everybody who has Christmas time now. May God help us that the message of love and hope will still be relevant and bring back better times.

    Unfortunately my post of December last year:
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2014/12/15/the-year-2014-review/
    was not followed by better times. No, the global situation became even worse – and humanity as a whole doesn’t even seem to have an interest in making the world a better place, so I understand Helena’s pessimistic views completely.
    Since the regime in Helena’s country is horrible enough, I at least ask our American readers to please take care that a certain Donald Trump won’t have a chance to become their next president – as this would bring the next horror to the world.

    But nevertheless we have to insist in keeping love alive and shouldn’t forget what it is like to give love to others – because it’s the best and most satisfying feeling in the world.
    Please, Helena, keep the faith in love and find some relief and hope in your MJ community. We are here for you!

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  8. kate permalink
    December 23, 2015 6:48 pm

    What a heart felt message. I know how you feel against evil doers, but we must hate the evil acts of these people and not the people themselves. Because to be honest, it is a evil spirit that’s causing people to conduct themselves this way. God said “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. – Ephesians 6:12. So again, it’s not the people who are evil but the evil spirit that resides in them.

    And the story about the bear is heartbreaking. God is angry at people who commit these crimes. “A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel”. – Proverbs 12:10. So whoever is murdering and mistreating animals is going against God, and there will be consequences for that. No one gets away with evi, whether the payment for that evil is in this life or the next, they surely will pay.

    And Helena, God will restore love within you if you ask God. There’s nothing too hard for God though it seems that way sometime. “Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me? – Jeremiah 32:27. Sure we go through trials and tribulations, we’re only human, but God is with us every step of the way to make everyhting alright. If you hold on to God he will help you know what love is again. We love you Helena, God bless you, and Merry Christmas. Keep the Faith❤.

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  9. December 23, 2015 10:55 am

    “God,we know that with out LOVE our lives are hollow and bitter. Please help us to obtain the LOVE which bears all,endures all and gives all.Love you Michael Jackson.MERRY CHRISTMAS every one.” D.Kourtis

    Friends, I wish you merry Christmas, love, peace and wisdom to everyone and God’s help to us all. I wish Michael’s detractors would give up hate and stop their nonsense. Lies, hate and indulgence to their worst lead to a horrible degradation. Living where I live I’m the first to know how horrible the process is. The soul of cynics is dead though on the outside they look alive and even bear resemblance to humans.

    Those who like playing games with the truth should know that one day it will stop being fun. Lies and cynicism will erode your conscience and at some point will consume the whole of you and you will simply stop being human.

    I know how it is because I live amid this plague. Those who have already heard what my “compatriots” did to a polar bear will understand what I mean. It is mass degradation and dehumanization, and it is the worst of pains to see it happening.

    I no longer know what love is. Only tears, shame and hate towards these people. But I also know that hate is not an option as it will eventually make you one of them. Love and the truth are the only way.

    Truth will always be by my side but I wish I could regain love. If only Michael could help. He was the only one who really knew how to.

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  10. D.Koutris permalink
    December 23, 2015 5:32 am

    God,we know that with out LOVE our lives are hollow and bitter.Please help us to obtain the LOVE which bears all,endures all and gives all.Love you Michael Jackson.MERRY CHRISTMAS every one.

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  11. Laura Munroe permalink
    December 10, 2015 10:10 am

    People have so much hate in their hearts! They don’t know the truth about Michael and they don’t care to know…just want to hate! Sad society we live in. I will defend MJ till I die! Blog on!

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  12. December 10, 2015 12:40 am

    Reblogged this on MJ Truth Now and commented:
    MJ Truth Now stands in support of all the blog writers and researchers in the Michael Jackson community who have endured harassment at the hands of MJ Trolls. MJ Trolls are committed to the continued destruction of Michael Jackson’s reputation and legacy through suppression and subversion of the truth. We are happy to see Vindicating Michael by VindicateMJ is back to carry out its mission to spread the truth. MJ Truth Now is reblogging “The Adventures of Michael Jackson’s Defenders in the World of his haters.” Michael Jackson’s defenders will not be stopped.

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  13. NeoIsis permalink
    December 8, 2015 4:14 am

    Hi Helena. I’m so glad to see the blog back. I figured it was some stupid trick like that by people who can’t handle the truth. I had just caught up on your last posts and, as I wrote in a couple other places while VMJ was down, your recent well-researched and well-analyzed posts have been so powerful that it seems clear some of these obsessed anti -MJ types feel threatened.

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  14. D.Koutris permalink
    December 7, 2015 11:24 pm

    The statistics say 5%of Australian fathers they found out they’re not the biological fathers after divorced,and after years of paying child support. Something to think about it.

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  15. alps permalink
    December 7, 2015 3:53 pm

    The only thing people wanted his children to be was black….if those kids were black and did not look like mj at all…tongues wouldn’t wag at all…as long as they were black…and this is very hypocritical and is a big example of double standard…. Lets not forget that it takes a man and a woman to bring a child into this world not only the man and besides I think God is working in his wonderful ways by inflicting prince with vitiligo so as to debunk the lie that the children were not his but people seem to look away from this fact,or are u going to suddenly say that Klein has vitiligo too??? It is also unheard of that a man would want another man’s child from a woman he married when he could have easily adopted a child,this is also another example of double standard…..also more dan half of these pple don’t look very much like their parents, why don’t they all go and question their parents??? Another double standard… Doesnt this look familiar??

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  16. alps permalink
    December 7, 2015 2:48 pm

    Those children are his,and this is clear to anyone who understands the concept of genetics and variation…I actually have a friend whose father is a Nigerian.. Full Nigerian and the mum is Spanish…my friend and her younger brother are both white…fully white not brown. Twas when I realized it that I fully understood that mj’s children are his

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  17. Kate permalink
    December 7, 2015 1:22 am

    You’re absolutely right, it is none of our business. Good example you gave about someone asking the average person to take a DNA test just because their kids don’t look like them, even though they are lol. I never knew how ridiculous this really is. Point is, MJ is their father regardless. End of story.

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  18. Kate permalink
    December 7, 2015 1:14 am

    Yeah, you could be right. Never heard that story before, lol. I hope Prince start thinking about taking a drug test sense he’s now grown.

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  19. D.Koutris permalink
    December 6, 2015 11:21 pm

    It’s embarrassing talking about this,why are we doing it? to gossip or because we care?This is not our business,this is not a discussion we need to have,there’s children involved here and its like its not enough that their lost the father and put up with the haters of the father now we are doing the same thing this is torture for them and we need to stop it.Do these kids need to prove anything to us? NO they don’t leave them alone let them handle thinks their way.Am going to put something now that someone twitted to Prince Jackson and his answer.(Every one knows you are a Rowe-Klein not Jackson!!!yall should stop trying to put a fake front and get real) and the answer from Prince(THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT IS THICKER THAN THE WATER OF THE WOMB”I WAS RAISED BY MY DAD WITH MY BROTHER AND SISTER) Sometimes am glad is not around to see how much we hurting those children.Everything he suffer it was for his love for children and we defending him and now we doing it to his children THEY ONLY HAVE ONE FATHER AND THAT IS MICHAEL JACKSON.What makes a father father you tell me.

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  20. December 6, 2015 3:32 pm

    “So it was Debbie who actually asked MJ to give him children, not the other way around.”

    I know. And when a woman is in love it happens in exactly this way. It is the woman who decides and not the man. The men are very dependent on us in this respect, poor things.
    But you seem to be thinking that if it was Debbie who wanted to give Michael a child, it would make the theory about the “sperm theory” more logical? Absolutely not. It would still remain as crazy as it was before. Adoption would still be a much easier option and he wouldn’t have had to marry the mother of his adopted children, lol.

    “About MJ’s children, like I said before, I’m not 100% sure if they are MJ’s children biologically, they could be, and could not be. I don’t know for sure until a DNA test is taken.”

    Look here. You, me and everyone else may think whatever we like about it, but it is no one’s obligation to prove anything to anyone and it is none of our business either.

    Moreover, it is a highly immoral and unethical thing to poke our nose into these absolutely intimate matters. People must have completely lost touch with reality if they still allow themselves to discuss it, expect some DNA tests and even challenge Michael’s children directly on the subject of their parenthood.

    It would never occur to the very same people to come up to their boss, for example, and say, “You know, your children don’t look like you at all, so I can’t be sure that they are yours until a DNA test is taken”. It would be interesting to see what happens next. If anyone tries please report the results, though I doubt very much that anyone will.

    So why do they allow themselves to behave in a totally different manner towards Michael and his children?

    And indeed, what should we care whether they are his biological children or not? He loved them all and if they were not his (though they are) the fact that he brought them up in so admirable a way is the best proof that Michael could be entrusted with any child.

    As to the DNA tests, if Michael’s children decide to have them one day, let it be. It is purely their business, not ours. And whatever the result is they don’t owe any answers to us.

    This is what I find really disturbing about this conversation – the fact that the subject is raised at all.

    “It may sound silly, but those kids can be genetically related to MJ in a different way than normally anyone else would be. MJ was smart and anything could be done for him”

    It does sound silly, however from a purely scientific view I am even interested how anyone can be “genetically related to someone in a different way than normally anyone else would be” and am looking forward to hearing of the method.

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  21. Kate permalink
    December 6, 2015 3:07 pm

    Excuse some of my words, that’s why it is good to re-read before posting in case of mistakes. I do this all the time. I didn’t mean to make it seem that MJ asked Debbie for children, I don’t believe I said that. This is what I said:

    “Debbie too voluteered to give MJ children, who said “Let me do this for you, please let me do this for you”. “You need to be a daddy”. MJ spoke about this during the Martin Bashir interview stating that Debbie told him that he needs to be a daddy, and that giving the kids to him was a “present” a “lovely gesture”. Those were MJ’s very words. Doesn’t seem at all that I was suggesting that MJ asked Debbie for children, but whether the other way around.

    What I meant is that it was Debbie’s idea to give MJ children. MJ did not ask Debbie for children, Debbie asked MJ, saying “You need to be a daddy”. Also Debbie said “Let me do this for you”, and Michael said “You’d do this for me?” and Debbie said “Yes”, and Michael said “Why” and Debbie said “Why else, I love you”. This is exactly what Debbie said during her interview. So it was Debbie who actually asked MJ to give him children, not the other way around.

    And yes, I agree, any woman would want to give MJ children and build a relationship with him, never did I say that this couldn’t happen.

    About MJ’s children, like I said before, I’m not 100% sure if they are MJ’s children biologically, they could be, and could not be. I don’t know for sure until a DNA test is taken. Prince and Blanket resembles Michael by the eyes and facial features, but the hair and skin complexion is completely not like MJ’s at all. And yes, Prince also has vitililgo, lol, wow. And Paris has Latoya’s facial structure. But Paris mainly looks like Debbie. But as said before I’m still not 100% sure if these kids are MJ’s biologically until a DNA test is taken.

    And yes, I am a true fan of MJ, a die-hard at that. Just because I’m in decision on whether MJ’s children are his biologically doesn’t make me not a fan of MJ. Besides, I said what is important is that he was a father to his children whether they are his kids biologically or not. He raised them from birth, passed his name down to them, and was brought into the world because of him. MJ was the only father they knew. So by me being in decision on whether the kids are MJ’s biologically or not does not make me a non-fan at all, that doesn’t even make sense by the way. I can’t help that I don’t know if the kids are his biologically or not.

    But I see where you are coming from, many haters try to say that the kids are not his for the wrong reasons, I’m not that person. I want the kids to be his, that would be so wonderful, I just have a hard time believing it. But at the same time I can’t make believing his kids not being his an absolute, because neither do I know if the kids are actually his. Anything is possible. It may sound silly, but those kids can be genetically related to MJ in a different way than normally anyone else would be. MJ was smart and anything could be done for him. I say this because though the children don’t look completely like MJ, they still could be genetically related in some type of way. And it’s a possiblity that MJ had it done this way because he did not want his children to come out looking like him completely, due to him not liking his own appearance. You know, all those mean things said about MJ during his adolescence. But I could be wrong, just a speculation here.

    There’s a possiblity that the kids are his biologically and there’s a possiblity that they are not his kids biologically. I will never know the 100% truth unless a DNA test is taken. Some of us already know the truth, depending on what that truth is, either they are his kids or they’re not.

    Anyway, I’m one of those fans who does not know if the kids are MJ’s or not, so I’m not a fan who goes around saying they are not his kids, nor am I a fan who goes around saying they are his children, because I don’t know what the truth is. I just see them as his kids period, whether biologically or not, because they are his kids, he raised them from birth, etc., whether biologically or not. It is my prayer though that a DNA test is taken so that all the in decisions for me are diminished. But at the end of the day they are MJ’s children regardless, and that’s what matter❤.

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  22. December 6, 2015 1:42 pm

    “Maybe MJ did use some of his genes.Maybe he used his genes in a certain way that most don’t, where the children wouldn’t come out looking tottally like him, but only a little like him, I don’t know. MJ who was very smart and could have anything done for him.” – kate

    I don’t even know whether to laugh or cry. Where have you seen a person who will voluntarily have his DNA subjected to some scientific experiments? What doctor will dare do that and WHAT FOR??? To get some monstrous “hybrid” as a result? Even putting aside the scientific impossibility of it who can guarantee success? This is so big a speculation that it is simply raising my hair.

    However seeing the scope of speculation people are going to, let me offer my own one and a much more reasonable and logical at that – on the subject why Michael took a sample of Klein’s sperm (if we are to believe Klein at all).

    The possible explanation came to me when I saw an article headlined “How sperm reveals if a man suspects INFIDELITY”.

    It could be suspecting infidelity. Debbie Rowe was working with Klein and to make sure that she didn’t cheat on him Michael had a sample of his sperm ready with a chance to always compare.

    This changes the situation into its reverse. Michael Jackson wanted his own children and took precaution against any cheat here. People were deceiving him so often that I cannot blame him for being a little over-suspicious in this respect.

    A very nice speculation in my opinion. I actually love it very much. What will Michael’s haters say to it, I wonder?

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  23. December 6, 2015 1:21 pm

    “Are you saying that Dr. Klein wished and hoped that MJ’s kids were he’s? If that’s so, how would he even be able to hope that MJ’s kids, say Prince for example were his son if he never donated sperm to MJ?” – Kate

    I’m saying that Arnold Klein was wondering about Prince and tried to find some points of resemblance between himself and the child. But no more than that. He just wondered about it and probably hoped to be a father. But he never said anything directly (I specially looked into this matter) and only beat about the bush saying that he once donated sperm and wondered why Michael asked him to. MJ fans called him all sorts of names for this supposition and “the sperm story”, and partially they were right. As a doctor he probably shouldn’t have confided in the media about medical matters like that, but Arnold Klein did like talking and sometimes crossed the bounds of the acceptable.

    But it is also important to remember that he only wondered about it and nothing more.

    “So it’s probably true that MJ chose Klein in helping him have children, after all Klein and Debbie both worked together and were close to MJ for years, so it’s understandable that Klein volunteer in helping giving MJ children. Debbie too voluteered to give MJ children”

    First of all almost any woman would volunteer to give Michael a child and hope for a relationship, and denying that would be an extremely hypocritical thing to do.

    Secondly, there is not a single reason to believe that Michael wanted a child by another man. Blanket as Michael’s near replica is proof enough that he was perfectly able to produce children on his own.

    People who like playing games around this subject don’t understand that to be able to have another man’s child Michael did not have to approach Debbie Rowe AT ALL – he could have simply adopted a child and in any country he wanted to. A child born from another man and another woman.

    But to claim that he approached Debbie to have a baby by another man is CRAZY and I don’t understand why people don’t understand it. This explanation could more or less hold if he had been madly in love with her and had been craving for a resemblance of her in a baby born from another man. Or do you want to say that Michael was so terribly in love with Debbie that he wanted to have a child specifically by her, only with another man’s genes?

    This is so crazy a speculation that it is even FUNNY.

    Of course Michael wanted his own baby, even though he loved all children of the world.

    Why he wanted his own? For the same reason a woman wants to have her own baby and considers adoption only as a second option. Michael evidently also wanted to go through “real” fatherhood and see what it feels like to have his own child. And he actually had three of them, all biologically his. Prince even inherited Michael’s vitiligo.

    Guys, whether you are Michael’s supporters or only pretend to be ones, you first need to think of the logic of what you are saying. Claiming that Michael wanted or tried to have a baby with Debbie by another man is completely ILLOGICAL.

    Adoption was a much easier variant and bringing absolutely the same result.

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  24. Kate permalink
    December 6, 2015 12:31 pm

    Lol. True. But I’m trying to understand Helena what do you mean by “The childless Dr. Klein probably hoped to have a son, but it doesn’t mean that he really had him”?

    Are you saying that Dr. Klein wished and hoped that MJ’s kids were he’s? If that’s so, how would he even be able to hope that MJ’s kids, say Prince for example were his son if he never donated sperm to MJ?

    For Dr. Klein to hope or even assume that Prince was his son, like he did on twitter a couple of years back, comparing pictures of himself when he was younger to a picture of Prince as shown in this article http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/17/arnold-klein-prince-jackson/ Klein had to help MJ out in having kids. Why else would Dr. Klein even do this?

    So it’s probably true that MJ chose Klein in helping him have children, after all Klein and Debbie both worked together and were close to MJ for years, so it’s understandable that Klein volunteer in helping giving MJ children. Debbie too voluteered to give MJ children, who said “Let me do this for you, please let me do this for you”. “You need to be a daddy”. MJ spoke about this during the Martin Bashir interview stating that Debbie told him that he needs to be a daddy, and that giving the kids to him was a “present” a “lovely gesture”. Those were MJ’s very words.

    So maybe both Debbie and Klein volunteered to help MJ out in giving him children, which was one of the greatest things that could of happened to MJ, giving him what he so longed for for years, children, the gift of life.

    As far as appearence for the children, well, I guess as long as they didn’t look like him, and Debbie was not a bad looking person, neither was Arnold Klein in my opinion, just average, MJ didn’t mind having children by them. MJ did say in the Martin Bashir interview about Blanket’s mother “I didn’t care what race, as long as she’s healthy”. MJ also said as long as she has “good intellect” and “good eyesight”. So I guess MJ wasn’t looking to have very beautiful and handsome babies, as long as they weren’t going to look like him I guess, and as long as they were healthy is all that seem to matter to MJ in my opinion.

    Notice how MJ said in the “Rabbi Shmuley Tapes” “I see beauty in all children”, not just Prince and Paris. MJ use to always say that. MJ just saw every child as beautiful or handsome.

    Helena, you also said: “Michael’s children may be sure that they are his children and are carrying his genes”.

    Are you saying that MJ’s children are biologically his? In my opinion, most likely they’re not. Also, considering that MJ always wanted to adopt for years is testament that MJ’s kids are not his biologically, but through surrogacy. But none the less they are still MJ’s children because he raised them from birth, and were brought into this world upon MJ’s request of wanting children. If it weren’t for MJ they wouldn’t even be here today. MJ even passed his name down to them. So they are definately MJ’s children.

    But then again, my judgements are only placed upon appearance, and sometimes you can not always be right by judging a book by it’s cover. I do find it highly strange that Prince and Blanket resemble Michael. And Paris looks like Latoya. Maybe MJ did use some of his genes.Maybe he used his genes in a certain way that most don’t, where the children wouldn’t come out looking tottally like him, but only a little like him, I don’t know. I’m not 100% sure. I do believe that there’s a 99% chance that his children are not his biologically. But I still have this 1% possiblity that they could be indeed his children in some type of way. Whatever way used, they still could be his genetically. This may sound silly, but we are talking about MJ who was very smart and could have anything done for him. Until a DNA test is done, I’ll never be 100% about anyhting regarding MJ’s children being his biologically.

    But what’s important is that no matter if MJ’s children are his biologically his or not, he is definately still their father because they were brought into this world because of MJ. He raised them from birth. And he passed his name down to them. And mostly, gave them all the love in the world, and vice versa❤.

    Again Helena, I just thank God for your blog, it's the best MJ blog to exist in my opinion. I'm very grateful for all your work. I thought I should mention that. God bless you Helena❤.

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  25. Kate permalink
    December 6, 2015 11:39 am

    Now do you see why I love this site so much? This site is God sent. I thank you so much Helena for your answers. You are literally beyond smart, you really are. I like how you don’t deny entirely of the things said in the interview of being true, but rather some of the things said was twisted, which makes it a lie. You’re so wonderful. I’m literally in tears right now, yes, I’m that sensitive, because I love MJ so much, he is like a hero to me, and to hear such things about him hurts me. I’m so very glad that you let me know the truth about this Helena. Truthly, you are the best. Again, thank you so much. And may God forever bless you❤.

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  26. December 6, 2015 5:09 am

    “He chose friends or business colleagues to help him.” – Kate

    All parents want their children to be better than they are – to be more successful, enjoying more luck, and being handsome as part of this package. So it is highly unlikely that Michael would have chosen Arnold Klein, for example, as a donor for his child. If Michael really wanted to have “his genes replaced” he would have chosen someone better-looking than Klein and someone closer to his own delicate build.

    The younger Klein:

    The childless Dr. Klein probably hoped to have a son, but it doesn’t mean that he really had him. It is much more interesting to know how Debby’s biological parents looked like. She was an adopted child.

    Michael’s children may be sure that they are his children and are carrying his genes. Prince simply inherited his mother’s heavy set body type.

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  27. December 6, 2015 4:26 am

    “I can’t believe Dr. Murray said this about Michael” -Kate

    And I perfectly believe that Conrad Murray said it, but I absolutely don’t believe that it was said by Michael.

    If this person (no doctor!) lied about the night he killed Michael, what reasons do you have to believe everything else he says?

    I really don’t understand it. If someone lied to you once, twice and then a dozen times more what’s the point of listening to him at all? Don’t you know that all the rest of it will be lies too? Especially if this liar wants to make money out of the stories he is making up about the man he killed!

    Take the fact everyone knows – that Michael used Benoquin cream for evening out his skin. The condition of his skin evidently required it as the spots reappear due to sunshine and other reasons. And Michael naturally didn’t want to look spotted all over again. Once the spots appear it will be much more difficult to get rid of them – hence the need to use the cream all over his body to prevent it. What’s so strange about it? Nothing.

    Or take Murray’s lie about “severing genetic links to his family”. Who in his right mind will believe that Michael wanted to sever the links with his mother, for example??? On the other hand I could imagine Michael saying something like “I wish I didn’t carry Joseph’s genes” considering Joseph’s brutality and promiscuity, especially in his younger years. Everyone will understand Michael’s idea behind such a remark, but with someone like Murray it will turn it into “severing his genetic links”.

    The same about Debby. I can imagine Michael not wanting to have sex with her when she grew older and him making a chance joke about it. After all he had a sea of young and good-looking girls around him, but when Debby was young she was very attractive and Michael took that marriage seriously and really gave it a try. He even wore a ring which he never did even with Lisa-Marie Presley.

    You need to understand one thing. Liars don’t say some purely fantastic things (like MJ being from Mars, for example). No one will believe it anyway. Very often they take some factual material and simply give a false interpretation to it. This way the lie looks credible, but it doesn’t cease to be a lie.

    Liars are no fools – they tell you what people are likely to believe and probably even want to hear.

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  28. kate permalink
    December 5, 2015 7:06 pm

    Thanks Helena, wonderful links. But the 60 minute interview is not what I was speaking of, I was speaking about the “Daily Mail” interview Dr. Murray did that’s shown in this article

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512469/No-I-didnt-kill-Michael-He-did–massive-overdose-using-stash-What-really-happened-night-Jackson-died-Dr-Conrad-Murray-doctor-jailed-death-King-Pop.html

    Dr. Murray said some very appalling things about MJ. Murray said Michael craved porcelain skin and he helped apply the cream he used. He rubbed it on Jackson’s back and bath his feet.

    Dr. Murray said: “He transformed himself because he wanted to obscure where he came from. He wanted to look different from his family. He wanted porcelain, flawless skin. Those were his words”.

    He also said this about MJ: “None of them are Michael’s biological children. Michael told me he never slept with Debbie Rowe [the biological mother of Prince and Paris]. We joked that neither of us would want to have sex with her. He chose friends or business colleagues to help him. He told me he wanted to sever any genetic link to his family. I will not talk about this. If the children want to know, I will tell them. There are some secrets I will take to my grave”.

    I’m just hoping Helena that what Murray said about is not true, that’s my concern.

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  29. kate permalink
    December 5, 2015 6:50 pm

    Thank you Helena for the links, they’re great. But my concerns are about what Dr. Conrad Murray said about MJ in this article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512469/No-I-didnt-kill-Michael-He-did–massive-overdose-using-stash-What-really-happened-night-Jackson-died-Dr-Conrad-Murray-doctor-jailed-death-King-Pop.html

    Dr. Murray said Michael craved porcelain skin and he helped apply the cream he used. He rubbed it on Jackson’s back and bath his feet.

    Dr. Conrad Murray: “He transformed himself because he wanted to obscure where he came from. He wanted to look different from his family. He wanted porcelain, flawless skin. Those were his words”.

    Dr. Murray said MJ said he bleached his skin to look different from his family and hide from where he came from. I just hope MJ did not tell Murray this.

    Dr. Murray also said that he and Michael spoke extensively about his children and who their real fathers are.

    Dr. Murray: None of them are Michael’s biological children. Michael told me he never slept with Debbie Rowe [the biological mother of Prince and Paris]. We joked that neither of us would want to have sex with her. He chose friends or business colleagues to help him. He told me he wanted to sever any genetic link to his family. I will not talk about this. If the children want to know, I will tell them. There are some secrets I will take to my grave”.

    I can’t believe Dr. Murray said this about Michael. That he did not his own biological kids because he did not want his children to have any genetic link to his family. It’s one thing for the tabloids to say things, and it’s another thing for someone who was MJ’s personal doctor to say something. I just hope what Murray said is not true about MJ. I must admit that this bothers me a lot because I do not know if what Dr. Murray said about MJ is true or not.

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  30. December 5, 2015 2:05 pm

    “Tell that to the paranoid f’loon who said it. Bloody load of old stuff and nonsense from the lot of you. It’s embarrassing” – tallulahbitch

    I don’t bear responsibility for the comments left by people who like playing games. By the way I’ve looked up your blog and see that you are still at it.
    <img src="Image and video hosting by TinyPic” alt=”” />

    What’s interesting is that your blog was opened only in November and you are allegedly “exposing MJfacts” there – which is still another of your ways to draw public to that blog.
    <img src="Image and video hosting by TinyPic” alt=”” />

    What’s the matter with you? Are you desperate? Why are you so obsessed with me and other Michael’s supporters?
    Is it your medical condition? Do you need help?

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  31. December 5, 2015 1:48 pm

    Tell that to the paranoid f’loon who said it. Bloody load of old stuff and nonsense from the lot of you. It’s embarrassing

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  32. December 5, 2015 1:03 pm

    Sorry, I’ve found that the series about Murray’s interview starts with this post – How Conrad Murray killed Michael Jackson:

    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/conrad-murrays-terrible-lies-or-how-he-killed-michael-jackson/

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  33. December 5, 2015 12:03 pm

    “tell me if what Dr. Murray said is true about MJ? It’s very disturbing and heartbreaking I must say. I sure hope this isn’t true.” – Kate

    What do you want me to tell you, Kate? The experts of highest professional standards proved at Murray’s trial that Murray put Michael on a drip of propofol and went away to talk on the phone (for 40 minutes) and it killed Michael when Murray was not even looking. The amount of propofol in Michael’s blood was 20 times as big as the volume of one syringe found in that room – which didn’t carry any of Michael’s fingerprints, neither the syringe, nor the bottle of propofol.

    And the duration of that dripping propofol was so long that its traces were found even in MJ’s urine – both in his body and in the jug standing by the bed.

    Is there anything else that is disturbing you? Besides the fact that Murray killed Michael? Or that someone could possibly do it while he was away – as Murray’s girlfriend who was on that phone actually heard voices in that room?

    As to the article and the film that accompanied it I did look it up long time ago and have at least three posts about it beginning with this one:
    https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2013/12/09/conrad-murray-the-man-who-killed-michael-jackson-part-1-about-some-british-films/

    Part 2: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/conrad-murray-the-man-who-killed-michael-jackson-part-2-on-dr-adams-as-another-option/

    Part 3: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2013/12/13/conrad-murray-the-man-who-killed-michael-jackson-part-3-on-how-not-to-do-it/

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  34. December 5, 2015 9:38 am

    “I hate to say this, but I just get the gut feeling that not only are MJ haters just general MJ haters, but they may even people of the elite (illuminati) who are angry that MJ had vitiligo. The illuminati took down this blog because Michael had vitiligo? This is indeed a scary old world” – talullahbitch

    Stop acting a clown.

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  35. kate permalink
    December 5, 2015 9:30 am

    Helena, can you look at this article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512469/No-I-didnt-kill-Michael-He-did–massive-overdose-using-stash-What-really-happened-night-Jackson-died-Dr-Conrad-Murray-doctor-jailed-death-King-Pop.html and tell me if what Dr. Murray said is true about MJ? It’s very disturbing and heartbreaking I must say. I sure hope this isn’t true. Thanks❤.

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  36. December 5, 2015 6:08 am

    I hate to say this, but I just get the gut feeling that not only are MJ haters just general MJ haters, but they may even people of the elite (illuminati) who are angry that MJ had vitiligo

    Yikes!!!! The illuminati took down this blog because Michael had vitiligo? This is indeed a scary old world

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  37. December 4, 2015 6:59 pm

    No words. I hope this was the last

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  38. December 4, 2015 6:29 pm

    Thank you krisinpan and Amanda L,, for the good advise! What a horrible thought that this blog, a historical document would disappear! Again, thank you, Helena, for all the work you do.

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  39. December 4, 2015 5:48 pm

    Reblogged this on mjjjusticeproject and commented:
    EVERY MJ Advocate who has a blog should REBLOG this post .. the trolls can not possible shut us all down- we’re MJGLOBAL afterall!!

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  40. lynande51 permalink
    December 4, 2015 1:36 am

    ” Of course rape victims always sell their rapist’s picture on ebay, it’s only natural.”

    But first hang on to it for threes years after you figured out you were abused.

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  41. vulcan permalink
    December 3, 2015 11:06 pm

    Maybe they should just help Robson and give him a job.
    Taking out garbage, cleaning toilets stuff like that.

    Because poor guy now that he has no chance of ever becoming the “international superstar”
    he was destined to be, if only he had not been abused so badly, he will run out of money soon.

    Even though, despite claiming that he can never work in the entertainment industry ever again, he is trying to do just that with “masterpieces” like this;

    http://www.dancespirit.com/news/wade-robson-returns-with-flight/

    Except shit like this doesn’t pay.

    And selling MJ’s picture on ebay well that can bring a few hundred bucks at best:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-Original-Photo-Framed-and-Autographed-/191669829104?hash=item2ca0697df0&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true

    Of course rape victims always sell their rapist’s picture on ebay, it’s only natural.

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  42. December 3, 2015 5:43 pm

    I am so sorry that this has happened to you Helena. I am on your side, no matter what. I have never understood why Wade turned against Michael the way he did. It makes no sense to me at all. And the haters all seem be on a left handed path. They don’t want to except the truth, when it’s told. They all seem to want to support Wand and in doing so support a lie. This time they have gone too far. There is no excuse for what they have done to you, I hope that at some point it will all backfire and land on them..

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  43. December 3, 2015 1:02 pm

    “You should seriously consider switching your blog to its own hosted domain and not on wordpress.com.” – allthingsmj

    I’ve considered it and think that it goes against the philosophy of this blog. And its philosophy is that it is free and it is PEOPLE who defend the truth about Michael.

    Freedom and Brotherhood, you know.

    I’ve only started it, but one day it will be passed over to others and the job will have to be done for as long as it is needed. So putting it on a money basis is not an option – it should be independent on whether someone pays for it or not.

    P.S. By the way the danger of Russians being “shut off” from the Internet is a very real one and this can happen at any time soon. There have been reports here that our regime has already tried it but it didn’t work. They will surely go on trying.

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  44. allthingsmj permalink
    December 3, 2015 11:15 am

    You should seriously consider switching your blog to its own hosted domain and not on wordpress.com. WordPress.com can easily come in and shut down your blog without hesitation. If you moved everything onto its own private domain, you won’t really have to worry about it getting shut down. The MJ community would probably be more than happy to donate to its yearly fees (which aren’t that expensive). By this doing this, it puts you and your team in more control over your site.

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  45. lynande51 permalink
    December 3, 2015 11:01 am

    I do wish they would stop screaming “LOOK AT ME!!! LOOK AT ME!!!”

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  46. December 3, 2015 10:49 am

    “This is my MJ fan site.” – MJJJ STAR FAN

    Well, here we have a typical MJ’s hater who passes himself off as a fan and by suggesting a visit to his site lures the innocent public into reading his ideas about Michael. I’ve got familiar with some and my verdict is that it is fiction and lies.

    Proof that it is fiction (partially plagiazied from Victor Gutierres):

    “This is how this little boy from a restless family background was permitted inside Jackson’s tightly drawn circle. This is also when the hushed late night/early morning telephone calls began.
    Jackson rapidly gains this impressionable child’s confidence and encourages him to call him “Daddy.” It’s rumored that Michael actually moved in with the Chandlers around this time for a month or two. It’s hard to imagine the most famous man in the world putting his career on hold to devote himself to washing a little boy’s clothes and folding his underwear but when comes to Michael Jackson, you needed to expect the unexpected.

    Proof that it is lies:

    “I took several photographs of Jackson’s genitals from his right side first and moved to his left side. Dr. Strick asked Mr. Jackson to lift his penis. I observed a dark spot on the lower left side of Mr. Jackson’s penis. Law enforcement sources, as well as Chandler family sources said the dark patch on Jackson’s genitals was found exactly where young Jordan Chandler said they could find such a mark. It’s important to note the dark spot was only visible when the penis was lifted – as during sexual arousal.” – Diane Dimond – “Be Careful Who You Love.”

    1) Diane Dimond began to write about a “dark spot” only after the 2005 trial when everyone already forgot that Jordan was speaking about “a light blemish the color of his face”
    2) What law enforcement bodies? If you mean Sneddon, he had to twist like a snake on a frying pan trying to explain why it was some dark spot instead of “a light blemish” and found at “about relatively the same location” too. He also had a hard time trying to equate the “arousal” state to that of Michael being uncircumcised.
    3) Dimond attributed this quote to Sergeant Spiegel. Question: if this was Sneddon’s main witness why didn’t he ever as much as mention him and Dr. Strick and never invited them as his witnesses?

    P.S. If you think that I am going to promote your site with fiction and lies about Michael you are mistaken.

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  47. December 3, 2015 9:42 am

    This is my MJ fan site.

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  48. December 3, 2015 8:48 am

    “I can’t accept a judge telling: GUILTY! No in this life, less in the next 20 lives of mine…” – FernandaCamino

    Goodness gracious, I never suggested accepting anything like that especially since Michael was innocent and the word “guilty” doesn’t apply to him at all.

    What I meant is that no matter what happens you should not fear. Truth will prevail anyway, and it is the only the price to be paid for it which is a question here. The price may be high, that’s true – and not in terms of money, but in terms of the time spent on establishing the truth and the amount of our effort, health, etc. that go into it.

    But the end result is already known. TRUTH WILL PREVAIL.

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  49. Sue Jackson permalink
    December 3, 2015 8:30 am

    Topix is a den of bullying, pathetic and cowardly liars!!!! In short, MJ haters and they have a singularly collective dumb-butt mindset!! This is clearly shown in their latest antics and am sorry they’ve attacked the excellent Vindicate MJ site which you, Helena, have done so much towards ((HUG)) .

    However, they are seriously deluded if they think MJ FAMILY WORLD-WIDE are ever going anywhere when it comes to protecting MICHAEL’S name, memory and legacy, are concerned!!! We have LOVE and the Truth on our side, we love and know Michael for all he truly was so UH UH, wherever we are in the world, ain’t gonna quit defending that beautiful man!!🙂

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  50. December 3, 2015 7:47 am

    “i will support you and the truth till my last breath.” – D.Kourtis

    D.Kourtis, I’m really very grateful to you and everyone for your huge support. It is priceless, especially in times of trouble as it gives you a footing when the land seems to be sliding from under your feet.

    But let us also agree that it is not me, but the truth that we are upholding. If you think that I am wrong, have come to wrong conclusions or misunderstood something please never hesitate to say it. Our goal is the truth and nothing but the truth, so if some information needs correction I welcome it with my both hands.

    In the long run it saves a lot of time and effort which in case of a mistake go in the wrong direction. I mean a wrong hypothesis or a wrong premise on which the conclusions were based, which makes the conclusions wrong too. Discarding this misinformation (even if it looks “useful” for proving Michael’s innocence) is always a great help as it narrows down the field of research and helps to find the right track.

    So my call to all Michael’s supporters is – please work for the truth and not some individuals. All of us are human and are capable of making mistakes. Just give a helping hand, correct the mistake (if any) and let us go further.

    “I am a Greek Australian,i love Australia,and we stand up for any kind of abuse like you do, and don’t ever believe that just because some sick people or supporters of Wade Robson spread their hate around, you don’t have the support that you deserved from Australia.’

    Oh, it would never occur to me that Australians may be in any way different from the rest of us in any respect at all. I was simply surprised by the 81% support for the so-called “facts” about Michael coming from Australia. All it shows is that the think-tank of anti-Michael campaigners is somewhere in that area.

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  51. December 3, 2015 7:10 am

    “The only solution I can think of is…. If you could get 12 of us to commit to copying one month each”- Helen-Marie

    Oh dear me, I would never think of loading upon you or anyone a huge job like that. If you want to copy something and keep at hand some essential facts, yes, please do, but I am totally against any obligations in this respect. I and Susannerb will try to regularly make those zip XML files ourselves and keep them in case the blog needs to be restored, but they are not text versions and you can’t actually read anything there.

    So in terms of references those XML files are useless, and this is why I encourage everyone who wants to keep the facts close at hand to please copy them. It would be a shame if you didn’t have access to the facts due to some possible technical trouble with this blog.

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  52. Helen-Marie permalink
    December 3, 2015 6:11 am

    I’m so sorry to hear this Helena and commend your diligence and the calm manner in which you have dealt with it all. As they say, the truth always hurts and your recent painstaking research has more than hit the mark.

    As you continue to uncover the core facts and lies that show what a complete fallacy the trial was founded on, I would expect more of these attacks. The opposition will stop at nothing to try and pull the truth from the world wide web.

    I wish I could offer some form of help, but I only have limited technical experience! The only solution I can think of is…. If you could get 12 of us to commit to copying one month each & copying that same month for each of the previous years, we could copy/paste them onto a memory stick for you. Therefore preserving all posts, and the comments which are also invaluable.

    I would be willing to copy September posts for each year (its easy for me to remember as its my B’day month!) and if you could ask 11 others to do the same, that way everyone will have a piece of the jigsaw and if the main blog goes missing, you will instantly know who to contact to piece it all back together.

    Your work is so important Helena and it’s vital we preserve all of it and not leave it to chance.

    Anyway, it’s just my thoughts and as always I thank you for all you continue to do for Michael and send you much love and strength to deal with these awful outside forces.

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  53. D.Koutris permalink
    December 3, 2015 6:07 am

    Dear Helena,you have no idea how happy i am that you back again i will support you and the truth till my last breath.You don’t say much you let the facts tell us all.I am a Greek Australian,i love Australia,and we stand up for any kind of abuse like you do, and don’t ever believe that just because some sick people or supporters of Wade Robson spread their hate around, you don’t have the support that you deserved from Australia.Am sure you heard about (The MJCast) they doing a very good job supporting Michael Jackson,also there’s a lot of love for Michael from too many Australians.These haters they need to take a good look in their own yards before they open their mouths.We have a lot of those PED here and focus on these criminals and stop wasting their time and energy to a dead innocent man.I don’t know what the majority of these people are man or women,because in my opinion the way they talk about man and ped the next generation a father wont be able to touch his child.Man fill it all ready only because some people see everything with a dirty mind,in away they harming themselves and these days more and more dads stay home and look after their children.My suggestion is look after your children and be a mother and father with out a brake,because if you want a brake from parenthood your children will have a brake from you too and that’s how you expose your children to everything bad there is out there.Don’t let your children sleep in someones else,s house if their rich and famous and than use it to ask for money that’s it.Michael Jackson was the most famous person on the planet,who would like to get to know him get involved with him and going to his house its something that your die for,and if it happens that you are one of them you tell everything about it to every body around you,and we are talking about children,and if you tell a child don’t tell any body the first thing they do go tell every body.Dint M.J knew that?so he trusted kids not to say anything are you kidding me?A child maybe wont say anything only if you threaten them,and Michael Jackson will never ever threaten a child.All the children that Michael got close too they had parents they were not from the streets that no body knows them or have no body and these parents knew nothing wrong was happening and they trust Michael 1000%we don’t have to say it again and again its all about money.Welcome back Helena we miss you even if it was only for a couple of days.

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  54. Caro permalink
    December 3, 2015 5:42 am

    Hi Helena

    Welcome back. What some folks will do hey??

    Loved the comment that if you get extradited to US could you please take your family! priceless.

    Keep up the good work.

    Caro – unashamably from South Africa!!

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  55. December 3, 2015 5:29 am

    “But the dominant thing I’ve noticed is that they don’t really seem to be interested in Michael at all, let alone Michael’s alleged “victims”.” – Amanda L.

    And I could also add to it that they are not interested in the truth. Naming Michael names and hating him is like a religion to these people. No matter what new facts are found they simply disregard them.

    For example, if you tell them that Sneddon was obliged to provide the names of experts to authenticate those photos to make his declaration valid (when he allegedly wanted to compare Jordan’s description and MJ’s photos), all they will tell you is that you are a “hater Helena”.

    This is obvious trolling, but from people on Topix you can’t expect anything else, so it is no use even mentioning them.

    However absolutely the same is taking place with those who present themselves as serious “researchers” and provide their so-called “facts” about Michael in a quasi-neutral style. These people also totally ignore facts inconvenient to them and prefer to distort the reality to fit their views, instead of changing their views when confronted with the truth.

    Things like that are typical of charlatans only. In science charlatans also exist but as soon as they are caught red-handed their reputation is gone, totally gone – with no way to restore it.

    It is important to understand that these people are not in denial. They are lying on purpose and are serious in what they do. They have an agenda and are deliberately working to make lies prevail over the truth.

    In very many ways they remind me of our current media propaganda. I mean in Russia.

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  56. December 3, 2015 5:10 am

    Haters are indeed revealing their true selves more and more. From my experience they are people that have a need to feel like they’re better than others. I’m sure all of us remember our kindergarten and elementary school days and there was that one kid that wouldn’t fit in because they had that need to feel like they were above the others and couldn’t accept that other children had success too. That’s what they are. The continuation of kindergarten bullies. I’ve noticed that haters don’t just attack fans but also other each other and people who have nothing to do with it all. It’s a struggle for appreciation and attention that they seem to be lacking in real life.
    Besides that most adults learn to control their anger and aggression at least to some extend growing up. That’s also a type of social adjustment that they skipped apparently. All in all they are regressed people, with low self-esteem.
    So let’s take the moral high route here and stay true and honest because we can

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  57. December 3, 2015 4:58 am

    “Helena, you should download the XML file version of your site after you write a new post because the XML file contains the entire site plus all the comments.”-Amanda

    I haven’t told it to anyone before, but these XML files didn’t work for me in 2012 when I was busy creating reserve sites. They were too big for the automatic export/import system, so I had to approach wordpress engineers and in 2012 they did it manually for me. This is when all the info was indeed shifted to a reserve blog. But the problem still remained and every new post had to be added manually and also regularly updated considering the new comments. Extremely time consuming and ineffective.

    At this point I found that the export/import system did work for me, but only for smaller portions of information – say, for posts from month 1 to month 12 of one year. I did export these smaller portions to reserve (archive) blogs but here another problem arose – if you did it once the rest refused to be added. This led to the creation of several archive sites – each for one year or so.

    And at some point it turned into so big a headache that I stopped archiving at all (and now MJ’s haters effectively relieved me of this headache, LOL).

    What’s also good is that during the recent suspension, the export/import button did work and created a zip file, supposedly for all of it. However there is no way to check it up as the result can be seen only when you import it to a new site. I tried, but found that all my reserve blogs were suspended. Well, at least the export/import did work and I will surely use this function in the future too. If it comes to the worst, probably a totally new website will have to be created and everything will be shifted there.

    We’ll see. At the moment there is absolutely no reason for any drama.

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  58. December 3, 2015 2:37 am

    Reblogged this on teammichaeljackson and commented:
    PLEASE MAKE BACK UPS OF ANY POST THAT INTEREST YOU…

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  59. December 3, 2015 12:18 am

    I hate to say this, but I just get the gut feeling that not only are MJ haters just general MJ haters, but they may even people of the elite (illuminati) who are angry that MJ had vitiligo, and the allegations were false, etc., so they found any excuse to try and take this blog down. The reason why I say the illuminati elite, because you said most of these people visiting or reading this blog are from Australia, and Wade Robson is from Australia, and I believe the ones controlling the case of Wade Robson is from the illuminati elite. This is my opinion.

    We have so many false “Vindicating Michael Jackson” blogs which really are hater blogs to confuse and decieve people. When I use to type in to find this blog with it’s name “Vindicating Michael Jackson” I would run itno a hater blog, that’s deception. Use your own name for your hater blogs. Because you are not vindicating MJ, you are hating on MJ, you buch of devisl. They did this so no one will have no place to go in finding the truth about MJ. The title is misleading.

    They took everything down except for the main blog because the main blog has no back-ups and no archives for the earlier posts, as you already stated. You have a lot of devils watching this blog. And who knows, this may have came about because your information was being copied and pasted in other places defending MJ, and “They” found out where this information came from, so they tried to close this blog down because the truth was spreading everywhere.

    I notice the pattern, whenever I save important information in my email that “They” don’t want you to know about, I come back to look at it or use it for reference it always end up taken it down. They don’t want us to know the truth, they only want us to believe lies. But that’s okay, God will prevail. And whoever did this, taking this blog down except for the main blog will have it up with God. One thing I’ve noticed, whenever you mess with God’s people and his truth, God always repay, no matter how long it takes, it will soon catch up with you, sooner or later. God is of truth and the truth will prevail. I hate MJ haters and the illuminati. True devils. This is only my opinion, so please don’t get on me for it. We are all entitled to our own opinion. God bless.

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  60. December 2, 2015 11:52 pm

    I’m happy with your return but worried for what could happen next and all the material lost? Did I understand right? Wow, they’re more pathetic than what I had thought then! Even I disagree with your last comment cause we know the truth and Michael deserves real justice and respect! Weitzman and his team is being paid immensely to do ALL to get the truth wins… So, no… I can’t accept a judge telling: GUILTY! No in this life, less in the next 20 lives of mine…

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  61. megaechad permalink
    December 2, 2015 8:47 pm

    Happy for the outcome. Love this and hope all MJGlobal family is together striving for the truth to be known. I have posted this on my facebook page, Google and twitter.

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  62. December 2, 2015 7:43 pm

    Reblogged this on Noramoya50's Blog.

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  63. Amanda L. permalink
    December 2, 2015 6:00 pm

    Helena, you should download the XML file version of your site after you write a new post because the XML file contains the entire site plus all the comments. This would be good if in the event you are attacked by haters again because you could just upload the XML copy onto a new blog, restoring it just as it was. I’ve been looking into haters of Michael for a while now and there appears to be some interesting specs about many of them. But the dominant thing I’ve noticed is that they don’t really seem to be interested in Michael at all, let alone Michael’s alleged “victims”. They are people looking for a topic to attacks others about. They also don’t seem to be connected to any one higher up, like the media or Wade Robson. They are simply losers and trolls and their motivation is a pretty sad one: they target us fans because they think we are somehow “stupid” to love Michael Jackson, as if it’s stupid to love someone who stood for love and decency! Stupid because they believe it’s obvious that Michael was a CM or p (seems like they are the stupid ones), so because they are so sad and pathetic with their own lives, they target fans when we are only interested in what Michael spoke about, L.O.V.E. They are simply a bunch of bullies who just hate people in general. Most of them have such low self esteem that trolling fans is the only way to put a pep in their step. A lot of them were/are on that horrible forum Topix, which has been in the news a few times for attracting the evilest defamers, and I’ve managed to figure out some of the worst offenders on there who’ve spread to places like Twitter. There are at least two people from England or Wales that seem to be behind a lot of the trolling and fake VMJ blogs, some guy named David from Swansea and notorious troll Jina Wild, who’s on Twitter under many names and she bullied Lynette. And a really crazy person named Christine. It’s sad that they’d be so angry to go after a blog that of course shows the TRUTH about Michael, but in a more general sense, go after someone because they have a different opinion then theirs. I’m telling you, these people are a bunch of middle aged rejects of society that hide on the internet because their in real life world is so bitter and unimportant. They should move on with their lives and stop trolling. Sorry for the rant, I just hate how Michael is still targeted, his haters stooping so low to target his fans😦 . Stay safe and continue your hard work, Helena.

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  64. susannerb permalink*
    December 2, 2015 5:15 pm

    Well, these haters show their highly criminal potential with every further step they do. They are so obsessed with their struggle against Michael’s defenders that they lose touch with reality more and more. Creating an anonymizer particularly for this blog is so crazy and so telling about their intentions that nothing more needs to be said. How honest is somebody and how truthful are his intentions when he needs to constantly hide and change his identity, country and username? This way the law as well as common sense and sanity is never on their side, that will be visible for everybody.

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  65. December 2, 2015 4:46 pm

    “You know they really must be desperate to hide the truth if they stalk this blog.” – Taylor

    I also think that way. And it is not a chance occurrence that this attack came at the moment when the 2005 court documents began to unfold to us their deepest secrets (about the prosecution having no evidence against Michael). They don’t want these facts to be known by the public.

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  66. December 2, 2015 4:42 pm

    “So Ive made the effort and downloaded literally every single post on VMJ cronologically therefore noone else has to do that any more.” – kristinpan

    Kristinpan, it’s great that you have them all – thank you very much indeed. However if someone likes some posts I encourage them to copy them too. This will be a double guarantee and if it really comes to the worst we will select those which are really important for creating a kind of a database. Some posts were written on the spur of the moment and are now outdated, so they should definitely go through some selection process.

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  67. December 2, 2015 3:50 pm

    Reblogged this on It's In Our Nature.

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  68. December 2, 2015 3:49 pm

    Dear Helena,
    Im beyond relieved that everything turned out fine. Funny how haters explode whenever theyir pedo-comments are removed but use censorpship as a primary tool to be able to continue at all. So Ive made the effort and downloaded literally every single post on VMJ cronologically therefore noone else has to do that any more. The Database is a great idea and a neccesity. So once its up Im ready to upload all the files.
    Stay strong and carry on
    Kristin

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  69. December 2, 2015 3:46 pm

    Wow. The vicious activity from these haters smacks of Diane Dimond for some reason. It’s really sick that Wade is so hellbent on smearing MJ. He must be really bitter that his career is over and there is no income. Glad to see that the site is back. You know they really must be desperate to hide the truth if they stalk this blog.

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