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Michael Jacobshagen as The Key to Robson and Safechuck Experiment

January 30, 2019

The viewers of the “Leaving Neverland” film recently shown at the Sundance festival cite as one of the reasons why they believe Robson and Safechuck is that “their stories are so surprisingly similar!”

These good and unsuspecting people evidently don’t realize how easy it is to cook a “similar” Michael Jackson story nowadays, especially when the two so-called victims share one lawyer (to be more precise, two consecutive lawyers) and for six years too.

A good example of how these stories arise is a third sudden “victim” who made a similar U-turn a couple of days ago. It is Michael Jacobshagen from Germany who used to be a lifetime fan of Michael Jackson and who suddenly also realized that he was “abused” as a child.

Jacobshagen 'father of three'When the Sun speaks of Jacobshagen as a father of a three-year old (and the Daily Mail calls him a father of three, lol) and we look into the sad honest face of a man holding a photo album allegedly shown to him by MJ when he was a boy, your first reaction is – “oh, here is another victim who has finally come forward because he is no longer “afraid.”

But Michael Jacobshagen is nothing else but an example of the fantastic somersaults which yesterday’s MJ friends are capable of doing once they sniff which side their bread is buttered on.

With a little study of their own and some help from the outside these people are capable of creating stories that will grip the minds of many and will take the trusting audience into these “victims”‘ make-believe world.

Jacobshagen’s story is astoundingly similar to that of Robson and Safechuck.

‘Michael Jackson called me Rubba Rubba boy in bed and I now realise he abused me’ 
EXCLUSIVE Michael Jacobs-hagen was just 14 when he joined the singer on a string of tours but now he’s a dad himsef he realises he was abused

He shared a bed with Michael Jackson and was nicknamed “Rubba Rubba” boy by the superstar. When he was a baby-faced 14-year-old Michael Jacobs-hagen joined Jackson on a string of tours – smiling for the world’s media as he posed happily with the singer.

But today he reveals for the first time the full, horrific details of his bizarre relationship with the star who took him into his bed.

And he admits that only now, as the father of a three-year-old himself, does he realise the twisted and serious nature of the abuse he suffered at the Jackson’s hands.

At this point it won’t hurt to mention that Jacobshagen met Michael Jackson on ONE occasion only – when Michael was in Munich in 1998. Michael took him and other children to Circus Krone and after that all of them went to the Hotel “Bayrischer Hof” where they spent time together (where Anton and Franziska Schleiter and one more boy were also present). In the evening Jacobshagen left the hotel with some autographs of MJ ….. and this was the end of their ‘long’ friendship.

We know it for a fact from numerous witnesses some of whom were friends of Jacobshagen (when he was still a MJ fan) and who were horrified to read in his recent 100-page book that he had been a close friend of Michael Jackson and had even gone on tours with him.

These witnesses are totally above suspicion as the book was a pro-Jackson one, but despite that the reviewers still warned others not to read it and implored not to believe a single word of this liar.

Today Jacobshagen is not yet done with his lies – only now he is suddenly saying the opposite and is sharing with the “Sun” a heart-breaking story of his alleged molestation.

Speaking exclusively to the Sunday Mirror, Michael, 35, said: “He overstepped the mark with me and with other children. I’m almost the same age now Michael was when he met me. He was always asking me to sleep in his bed. I would say, ‘No Michael, I can sleep in my own suite’, but he was saying ‘Please, please… for Michael Jackson’.

“Since I had a son, it made me look at everything in a different way and I realise now how wrong it was. Becoming a father changed my feelings.”

The King of Pop – in his trademark face mask – was 38 and touring Europe promoting the HIStory greatest hits album. Michael spent three weeks with the singer in the hotel suite.

He said: “When I got back to school, pictures had been in all the media. Other kids would say, ‘You make sex with Michael Jackson’ and ‘You’re gay’.

“It affected me psychologically, but I never told Michael. It made me feel shame. Teachers warned my mother about allegations about Michael, but she said it was my decision if I wanted to keep seeing him.”

Michael had been thrilled to meet Jackson during an earlier visit to Disneyland Paris – after his mum asked an aide if her lad could be introduced to the star. He recalled: “Suddenly I was being picked up and taken to another hotel. When I went into his suite and Michael Jackson was there waiting for me, I just thought ‘Wow’. I was a huge fan.

“He gave me a hug and said in German ‘I love you’. We spent the day playing games like hide and seek and on his PlayStation.

“After that he kept phoning every day asking ‘Do you want to come again?’ and we spent the whole holiday together.”

“Michael invited us to other concerts, including the HIStory Tour, when I was 14. I travelled with him to other countries.”

Let me bring those who were swept away by the story down to earth again and remind them that Jacobshagen met Michael Jackson only once and could not be invited to any concerts on the History tour for still another reason – his one big happy day with Michael Jackson took place on March 27, 1998 when the History tour had long been over (it ended on October 15, 1997).

And there were no earlier visits to Disneyland either as the German documentary about Jacobshagen clearly says that initially he claimed his close association with Michael Jackson beginning with 1998 only. Here is a screenshot from this film:

“Michael Jacobshagen becomes famous as the boy with the red cap. In 1998 Michael Jackson visits Munich. He meets the then 14-year-old at Circus Krone. Jackson takes him backstage. Jacobshagen then claims that they meet on a regular basis from then on” [March 27, 1998]

Though Jacobshagen spent only one day with Jackson, at the time he was still Michael’s fan he kept telling everyone grand stories about him and Michael flying private jets when he was 14, 15 and 16, etc.

I then flew in private jets.. honestly… police escorts… everything… hmmm…. at 14, 15, 16 years of age…. honestly…. nobody can even imagine… this is really extraordinary…

Now he is singing a totally different tune and with the same ardor describes scenes of sexual abuse complete with a “psychological explanation” of MJ’s alleged actions.

“When I slept in his bed, we wore just boxer shorts and he would put his arm around me and push his body to my body, like you would with a girlfriend. He would put our bodies on each other and kiss me on the head and cheek. I woke many times and his hands were on me… one hand on the top of my legs and one hand around me.

“When he was high on his medication he would get closer in the same way as when a man gets drunk. It disinhibited him. He’d pull me closer and be grabbing me more and kissing me more on the head and on the cheek, He would also stroke my hair.

“I didn’t feel comfortable with it, but I thought ‘I can’t say No’. When you’re 14 and you’re there with the biggest megastar in the world, you say ‘okay’. He never carried out an explicit sexual act on me, but there were sexual intentions. He must have been getting something out of it sexually. I feel now like he was testing me, seeing how far he could go.”

The star was infatuated with Michael and sent notes saying he “truly missed him” – as well as instructions on hotel meets.

You will be surprised, but as to the alleged “instructions on hotel meets” Jacobshagen is capable of even producing physical proof of them. The fact is that he trained himself to imitate MJ’s handwriting so well that it helped him turn it into a lucrative business of his own. From one buyer alone he got 30,000 Euros for the exclusive autographs, letters, notes and other memorabilia allegedly related to Michael Jackson. The quality of his forgeries was so good that they were found fake only when the journalists took them to the Brandenburg Office of Criminal Investigation.

And Jacobshagen rolled his eyes and shamelessly denied that they were forgeries even when the journalists provided him with the official conclusion from the Criminal Investigation office.

“He [the buyer] paid 30,000 Euros. And the Land Office of Criminal Investigaion says: These are fake”

The progress never stops and by now the technique of proving the molestation that never took place has taken a step further, and not without the help of the “Sun” and other outside sources. See for yourself:

Michael also told how Jackson gave him a copy of The Boy: A Photographic Essay, containing naked snaps of young lads.

He said: “I found it strange. He said ‘This is one of my favourite books’ and he wrote personal notes inside. In one he called me ‘his special friend’ and his ‘rubba rubba friend’ because of what used to happen in the bed.”

Years later, another copy of the book was found in Jackson’s bedroom at his Neverland ranch in California after he was arrested on suspicion of abuse.

The “years later” lie about this photo album is told not by Jacobshagen, but by the Sun.

This book was not found at the Neverland ranch years later (during the police raids prior to the Arizo 2005 case). The book was indeed there, but it was found in 1993 and under very strange circumstances at that.

At around 1991 it was sent to Michael Jackson by a “fan” with the following inscription on its cover: “From your fan, xxxooo, “Rhonda”. 1983 Chicago”. Rhonda was in quotes.

The book was kept in a locked file cabinet in Michael’s closet where it stayed for two years, until the file cabinet was opened during the police raid of Neverland in 1993.

The person who brought the key to the cabinet was Michael’s former maid Blanca Francia who left her employment two years prior to the raid, in 1991. All this time she had kept the key as if knowing that one day it would come in handy for some special purpose.

Surprisingly, the police also knew who to approach in order to get it. Michael was away on a tour during the 1993 raid and was said to be surprised with the find as he didn’t remember having this and another book kept there at all.

The unique phenomenon about this book is that Jacobshagen could hardly know about it and someone must have “helped” him to remember it. He could freely improvise on Robson’s and Safechuck’s story to make his descriptions similar to theirs, but the book episode is indeed something novel here.

First of all this photo album, which is largely based on the shots from a very old film “Lord of The Flies,” is a rarity now and is difficult to find. Secondly, besides Jacobshagen telling a lie that he saw it in 1998, the Sun is also lying by implying that the book was found by the police in a raid prior to the 2005 trial.

No, all the time between 1993 and 2005 the book was kept in the police vault and even if Michael Jackson wanted to show it to Jacobshagen during their one day in Munich this was simply impossible.

And this means that someone thrust this book into Jacobshagen’s hands with the sole purpose to frame up Jackson and support his current lynching campaign that was started at the Sundance festival.

The whole thing is organized, and while you are thinking over what this staged performance might mean, let me add a couple of details to clarify the matter a little further.

Michael Jackson’s former maid Blanca Francia, the one who opened the locked file cabinet, was friends with Victor Gutierrez (there is even a photo of them together in Gutierrez’s book dating back to the 90s).

And Gutierrez is a notorious NAMBLA conference attendee who in the early 90s was making rounds of the families who knew Michael Jackson and was spreading stories about him being a “pedophile.” Among those parents was Joy Robson too, but she chose to report Gutierrez to Michael’s manager Norma Staikos rather than believe his stories.

Victor Gutierrez and Blanca Francia together [screenshot from his book]. Gutierrez says that communication with Michael Jackson’s personal maid Blanca Francia “made it easier my research to find the King of Pop’s sexual preference”

Incidentally Gutierrez was also Diane Dimond’s “best source”, but she doesn’t like it when you tell her that the person she so heavily relied on is associated with NAMBLA (she will immediately ban you if you approach her on the subject).

In 1995 Jackson sued both Dimond and Gutierrez for defamation and though she was released of liability for spreading lies about MJ, partially due to Tom Sneddon’s declaration who said something like “she didn’t know that her source was lying”, Gutierrez was found liable and was to pay $2,7 million in damages (which he never did as he fled to his native Chile).

These strange connections between Gutierrez – Blanca Francia – Diane Dimond – the key to the locked cabinet – and the book in it, eventually climaxed in the Jordan Chandler allegations in 1993.

And it is very interesting that now the same book takes us to the new allegations, thus linking the past and present together and suggesting that the same people who were sabotaging Michael Jackson then have placed the book in Jacobshagen’s hands now and are starting it all over again.

Under the circumstances I need to tell everyone that back in the 90s Michael Jackson believed that the people who sank his career in 1993 formed a certain group of powerful Hollywood players and even gave the name of his biggest foe who, as Michael believed, was responsible for ruining him (see this post for details please).

Leaving you to cope with this fresh information let me go on with the rest of the Sun article.

Besides everything else Jacobshagen also claims that he first met Jackson in 1995 (!) which is another of his lies, but we are no longer surprised. The rest sounds as a full replica of Robson’s and Safechuck’s stories.

Michael, meanwhile, told the Mirror about the time Jackson stripped off in front of him in a hotel hot tub. It was 1998 – three years after they met.

He said: “We were in the Jacuzzi inside Michael’s bathroom. He took his swim shorts off and said ‘If you want, you can take yours off as well’.

“I told him ‘No, I don’t do that. I don’t feel comfortable being naked. I was 14, but I always looked younger.”

The teenager told no one – not even his mum, who had split from his dad – about *****’s behaviour. But then the star had groomed him to remain silent and even bribed his mum.

Michael went on: “He would buy expensive things. He bought my mother a Cartier watch. We would go to toy shops or the Disney store and buy whatever I wanted. And he would drink wine and offer it to me. But I always said no. He called white wine ‘Jesus juice’ and red wine ‘Jesus blood’.”

Michael only came clean with his mum after Jackson died from a prescription overdose in 2009.

He came clean in 2009? But didn’t Jacobshagen say that he realized that he had been “abused” only recently? However in the face of so many colossal lies none of it really matters. The Jacuzzi, a Cartier watch, expensive things Michael bought for his mother – oh my God, there is simply no end to it…

He said: “She said that she gave him too much trust. She was very upset. All the time I was with him he needed psychological help. He was not okay.”

Michael now has a son aged three but is estranged from the tot’s mum. He last saw Jackson in Las Vegas two months before his death at the age of 50. He added: “When I became a man he did not have so much interest in me. When I went to visit the last time he didn’t ask me to sleep with him. I had to sleep on the couch.

“His fans won’t like me saying these things. They treat him like a God. But the truth is the truth.”
‘Michael Jackson called me Rubba Rubba in bed and I now realise he abused me’

There are two things that surprise me most in this anti-Michael Jackson business.

The first is how people allow the media to fool them so openly and so shamelessly. Don’t they understand that the authors of this fake have zero respect for their audience? Excuse my French, but do they enjoy the media pour this bullshit into their heads and insult their intellect and common sense in so blatant a way?

And the second thing that surprises, or rather, bothers me is that Jacobshagen, same as Robson and Safechuck, are not alone in their effort to frame-up Michael Jackson. The media and vile initiators of this lynching project obviously help the liars by supplying them with “facts” and “evidence” to support their stories – and the incident with this book is a vivid example of it.

In addition to all that there is one more nuance to Jacobshagen’s story which should not be overlooked as it is directly relevant to the good impression Robson and Safechuck produce on their unsuspecting audience.

The thing is that despite the fact that Michael Jacobshagen knows that he met Jackson only once, he seems to genuinely believe that he had a long friendship with him.

This nuance was noticed by Dieter Wiesner who for two years accompanied Michael in his business endeavors (and at some point also sued him). When asked by German journalists what he thought about Jacobshagen the visibly shocked Wiesner shook his head:

 “This closeness, that he claims he had with the artist. That he was communicating with him … for me… it simply makes me shake my head … that someone dares to do such a thing!”

And when they asked him how it was possible for Jacobshagen to deceive people for so many years Wiesner said:

“I met him three times. He is a real hard core fan – so I thought at first. But during the years I realized that he really believes what he says. I guess an expert is needed in order to figure this out.”

This is an amazing new detail.

It turns out that Jacobshagen produces so strong an impression on others by his ardor and seeming honesty that they begin thinking that he is believing his own lies.

They know that he is lying, but at the same time see him believe what he is lying. And they realize that he may be a medical case and only an expert can figure out how that kind of double thinking is possible.

This fantastic phenomenon has a direct relevance to Robson and Safechuck. Those who saw the film at Sundance are of the unanimous opinion that both “victims” look and sound genuine and under no circumstance could their words and emotions be false. The impression these guys produce is that they are top honest and this is actually what shatters the viewers most.

In this respect Robson’s revelations are not that important as he underwent the so-called “insight-related therapy” which is a highly dubious method of retrieving memories from the past which may result in false memories of which some therapy clients are known to be absolutely sure.

The above fantastic phenomenon may be more relevant to Safechuck. As far as I know he didn’t undergo any recent therapy (or did he?). But even if he didn’t Jacobshagen’s example shows that Safechuck can be a similar mental case and similarly believe his own lies, or at least produce the impression that he is believing them.

In other words this time the scam against Jackson is not just a scam, but a very well thought out and prepared psychological experiment which addresses both the “victims” and the public that is viewing the film.

To dot the i’s and cross the t’s the Estate, Taj Jackson and all others who want to know the truth behind it should immediately contact Dr. Loftus and Dr. Julia Shaw (who are well-known researchers of false memories) as well as Dr. David Jopling, a long-time researcher of the flawed “insight-oriented therapy”, providing them with depositions of Robson and Safechuck, as well as Robson’s testimony at the 2005 trial, and asking them to share their views on these people’s turnabout.

In the absence of Robson’s and Safechuck’s medical records this is the only way we can get to the bottom of what’s taking place here.

And please don’t tell me that in the process of their evaluation something ‘suddenly’ happens to these esteemed scientists.  If one single hair drops from their heads it will directly point at the initiators of this project.

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Here is a video where Dr. Shaw explains how people may “recall” the crimes they never committed (not to mention the crimes never committed to them). This beautiful woman may help a lot in solving this enigma.

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UPDATED March 19, 2019

Another beautiful lady and another piece of bomb-shell information about Michael Jacobshagen.

The lady is Chantal Obrist and she is part of an Investigatory team including Matthias Frank and Jochen Haug all of whom worked to expose Jacobshagen’s criminal activity in defrauding Michael Jackson fans.

It turns out that the scope of Jacobshagen’s fraudulent activity has been heavily underestimated by us.

Chantal Obrist says that Jacobshagen used just one photo of him with MJ into a monumental PR story about his friendship with Michael. He bribed his way into the home of unsuspecting Katherine Jackson and had a photo with her, he falsified tweets with MJ’s children to convince everyone that he was the family’s close friend, he managed to infiltrate Michael Jackson’s resting place at the Forest Lawn Memorial park, etc. etc. – and then he used his false image of a close Michael’s friend to sell fake MJ memorabilia all over the world.

And in doing so he showed himself a masterful conman with deep knowledge of human psychology. He first made friends with MJ fans and then mentioned that he happened to have a certain gift or autograph from MJ he would be unwilling to part with (and would evidently sell only when the price for it soared).

Chantal Obrist says that when Jacobshagen’s activity began to be investigated he opened a new door and started claiming child sex abuse. And this doesn’t seem a chance occurrence to me – by playing the role of a “victim” he may be trying to avoid criminal prosecution for his frauds.

At the moment the investigation is still ongoing, and Chantal Obrist asks everyone who fell fictim to Jacobshagen’s frauds to reach out to their team. They are in contact with the District Attorney Office in Munich and the more evidence they get the sooner Jacobshagen’s criminal activities will be exposed. She asks people not to be afraid of this con artist though he is known to threaten and intimidate the victims of his frauds.

Chantal Obrist confirms that Jacobshagen met Michael Jackson on one occasion only and in the company of other child guests. She says that Jacobshagen changes his story every day as it suits him and wherever the money is. So the stuff about his “child sex abuse” he shamelessly sold on the Australian TV is of course plain lies.

 

 

27 Comments leave one →
  1. William King permalink
    January 30, 2019 2:33 pm

    We should let Wade Robson and James Safechuck make the fatal mistake of teaming up with Michael Jacobshagen if they want to. That would only make it easier to kill three birds with one stone.

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  2. January 30, 2019 3:06 pm

    “We should let Wade Robson and James Safechuck make the fatal mistake of teaming up with Michael Jacobshagen if they want to. That would only make it easier to kill three birds with one stone.” – William King

    Yes, we should, but now it is too late. These people are some of the most ardent readers of this and other blogs supporting Jackson.

    The breaks they make between the airing of the film at the festival, then in the UK and then the US are also intentional – this way they are collecting the feedback and by each new premiere will prepare some new interviews and new highly “credible” explanations of the flaws detected by Michael Jackson’s supporters.
    These breaks enable them to study the public reaction to the film and do damage control in case some shortcomings are found or the other side reveals the line of their defense for Jackson.

    On their part this is indeed a very well thought out plan. This is why the rebuttal video or something of the kind should be no less sophisticated and shouldn’t be made in too much hurry. But simultaneously action should be taken too.

    A difficult job. But who said that it would be easy? 🙂

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  3. January 30, 2019 3:27 pm

    Here is a post by one of Michael’s child friends which impressed me very much. It’s a long read but it is worth every minute of it.

    30 JAN 2019
    I was a boy in Michael Jackson’s life, and nothing of what he’s being accused of in this documentary happened

    I wanted to write and post this before Leaving Neverland premiered at Sundance last Friday. After all, I had a close relationship with Michael Jackson growing up and nothing of what he continues to be accused of has ever happened to me. I decided to wait because I was curious to see if the film would get any wings considering Wade Robson’s volatile and unsuccessful claims against Michael Jackson in the past. Sure, let him tell his story again. Truth and justice will prevail as they have. Soon after it premiered, I quickly Googled “leaving neverland” to discover news articles stating that the four-hour documentary received a standing ovation. In disbelief, I searched the hashtag on Instagram to see Story footage from the theater and there they were — Wade Robson, James Safechuck and the film’s director Dan Reed — on stage in front of an applauding audience at their feet. I’m not sure if the audience was doing so because they were perceived as survivors making a public appearance, or if the film was actually good in their eyes, or both; but all I could think about was that their strategy, unfortunately, worked.

    Raising awareness about child abuse and providing a safe community for others to speak their truth is vital, but using Michael Jackson as a vehicle to do so is simply wrong. In order for any story to be valid, there has to be an element of trust and I do not trust the people associated with this film. Let’s be clear: Michael Jackson showed up. He faced public interviews, he answered difficult-to-stomach questions, he agreed to interrogative documentaries, he withstood a 10-year FBI investigation, and he appeared in an eighteen-month criminal trial until he was acquitted having been found not guilty on all fourteen child molestation and abuse-related accounts. The fact that twelve years of criminal investigations and government legal proceedings can be completely overruled by the media due to a manipulation of the same stories once told before by a select few, especially by those who were initially on the defense, is deeply concerning. Maybe even horrifying.

    I haven’t seen the documentary, but it “focuses on two men… who allege they were sexually abused by the pop star Michael Jackson as children” (Wikipedia). Everyone is entitled to his/her/their story and I believe that each story should be told in truth to the best of his/her/their ability, but my issue with Leaving Neverland is the heavy reliance on one side, especially when that one side is comprised of only two people. On top of it all, those two people happen to know each other. So what we have is a product comprised of two acquaintances’ stories who were in Michael’s life as boys that has been glorified in a 236-minute documentary. Remember that the film would mark Robson’s second attempt to tell his story. He told the same, truncated version of his story publicly in 2013 and simultaneously filed suit against the Michael Jackson Estate, which the court later dismissed. This was eight years after he testified twice under oath explicitly stating that Michael did nothing wrong during a criminal trial in which the jury delivered a verdict of not guilty. It’s clear that this film’s intention is to position Michael as a child predator, but I find that the entire Leaving Neverland saga is really, in turn, a predation on a man of power and wealth now almost 10 years dead and thereby defenseless.

    I was part of Michael’s life from the day I was born in 1987 until 2001. The last time I was literally close to him was backstage at the Staples Center when his casket wheeled past me. I knew him well because my mother, Janet Zeitoun, his sole hairstylist during the time, knew him even better. One could say that they might as well have been siblings. In fact, my mother was one of the few non-family members invited to the private memorial service at the cemetery hours before the public one in Downtown LA. Michael felt so comfortable with my mother because she made him laugh unlike anyone else, let alone the fact that she’s incredible at her craft. Michael even said in writing that she’s the “Michelangelo of hair.”

    From the 80s, 90s and early 2000s, my mother has been around the globe with Michael. She’s been by his side doing his hair on sets, in dressing rooms, backstage at his concerts, at his home, on planes, in hotel rooms, in cars, and yes, even at Neverland. When my mom was pregnant with me in ‘86, Michael told her that she’d be having a boy; and on the day of my birth, Michael sent a limo to our home filled with gifts. And from then on, my single, hard-working mother who wanted to spend as much time with me as she could often brought me to work with her. So I grew up on the sets of Michael’s music videos, I played with my toys on the floor of his dressing rooms, and he sometimes came over to our house to get his hair done. As I got a bit older and could walk on my own two feet, I became the boy responsible for making sure Michael got candy in between some of his concert rehearsal sets. Michael would make everyone stop and patiently wait for me to wobble my way on stage to him. I even remember singing “I Just Can’t Wait to be King” to him in his trailer (so embarrassing!) but he gave me his undivided attention and smiled. I went to Neverland, several times of which Michael was there and he gave us the full tour of his home. I remember my favorite golf cart to get around had a Peter Pan emblem on it. I remember his movie theater concession stand being filled with candy that you could go behind the counter and take to watch whatever movie you wanted. I remember riding the big steam engine train that would take you from one end of the ranch to the other. I remember a big pot-bellied pig named Petunia and that I was could name a newborn deer and rabbit. I chose Cuddie and Thumper, respectively; original, I know, but Michael loved the names.

    Unlike Robson or Safechuck, I wasn’t in the public eye with Michael. The only sort of public thing that happened was him publishing a photo of us in the centerfold of his 1995 tour book. Fourteen years later, the caretaker of his children recognized me backstage at the Staples Center during his memorial service and told me that the photograph was one of Michael’s favorites, and at the time in 2009 was still framed on his grand piano in Neverland.

    I remember leaving Neverland a happy kid who couldn’t wait to go back. I remember telling my mom that I wanted to have another birthday party there or that I wanted to hang out with Michael again at the ranch. The bulk of my experience with Michael was during the 90s right when the FBI investigation began on account of child molestation allegations. Knowing that this was happening and that these charges were set against him, I don’t think my protective and well-aware mother would’ve allowed me to continue hanging around Michael or head up to Neverland had she not trusted him.

    I firmly believe Michael did no wrong. You don’t have to take my word for it, though; know that his truth was proven in a court of law. The stories being presented in Leaving Neverland are incredibly one-sided. This film is merely the Wade Robson & James Safechuck Story because I, too, remember leaving Neverland, as does my mother, and as do many people in his life who’d be glad to have a say in a film so generically titled; now wrongfully entitled to depict Michael’s life and his misunderstood relationship with children. Any credible director of a documentary seeking truth on the matter would do his/her/their due diligence and present the full story from a carefully chosen and meaningful variety of sources. With four hours of film time to spare, I’m sure there could have been room. This is why I’m deeply disappointed in HBO and Channel 4 UK for picking it up with plans to air it later this spring. The networks snagged a falsity and will be responsible for disseminating a poorly researched film based on the highly skewed opinions of a select few that many of its subscribers will conclude as true.

    Leaving Neverland is connecting because Robson and Safechuck’s well-acted stories are similar to those of true survivors watching the film. It’s a smart, yet corrupt way to capitalize on an entire community’s vulnerabilities. It’s also connecting because their stories are bolstered with a compelling medium to tell them as well as an accredited establishment like Sundance to premiere it. It’s riding the wave of an important #MeToo and #TimesUp movement, and it poorly validates a shortsighted equation that many people think they already have the answer to: Michael Jackson plus always being around children must equal child molester. The result? A byproduct of lies smeared with a thin layer of credibility intended to enrage the general media and side with self-proclaimed victims. And because the people behind these forms of media have a following (or not), perhaps they’re employed by some “greater” masthead and their information is muffled with journalists who actually the seek truth, the general population slowly becomes convinced, valuing information by ease of access which has really been served to them by algorithms designed to showcase what individuals only want to see. This is where destruction escalates. This is where the snowball gains its mass. This is why I’m stepping in with my story now.

    I urge you to make it your undying responsibility to seek truth and acknowledge all sides in your consumption of how Michael is being depicted in this film. The capitalization of circumstance, divisive use of content and manipulation of media — all combined with rising false senses of entitlement — can quickly nullify a verdict and forever challenge truth to favor the other. This is the loophole with our digital ecosystem that actually determines one’s fate and this is the precise mechanism Leaving Neverland is using, especially when money is at stake. It will ultimately destroy his family, defame his legacy and eradicate his artistry. If you think this little loophole won’t take it that far, well, for starters: it’s already killed Michael Jackson.

    Michael signed a letter to me on Neverland letterhead once. It read: “from your protective and older brother, Michael Jackson.” Now I find it my turn to protect him by telling my story because I solemnly swear that this kind-hearted, genius-of-a-man is innocent. I probably would have known otherwise.

    https://talunzeitoun.com/2019/01/30/michael-jackson-and-me/

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  4. William King permalink
    January 30, 2019 4:23 pm

    I agree. It’s not going to be easy but fortunately we’re defending the truth while they’re having to defend lies. I suspect the Jackson family are also aware of what you mention and that could be why they are so hush on the people they’re working with at the moment. Smart on their part. Although many of us want hear more from them now it’s best we all be patient. Like Michael said, the truth runs marathons. And this is definitely a marathon.

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  5. Jadz Szuster permalink
    January 30, 2019 7:10 pm

    Thank you for your great work the facts are FACTS and the TRUTH is THE TRUTH! It will take time to educate the ones that believe in the media lets remember Michael’s words 99.9% of the news reported is LIES! Michael Jackson’s name generates billions $$$$ we all know put Michael Jackson name to some story and Bingo the $$$$ start coming in! Media and press where would they be if it wasn’t for the name of the GREATEST ENTERTAINER THAT EVER LIVED!???? So sad that we all have to fight this again and again! Thank you again.

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  6. January 30, 2019 7:20 pm

    “So sad that we all have to fight this again and again!” – Jadz Szuster

    Yes, it is very sad, but I also regard it as an BIG HONOR and hope every supporter of MJ looks at it this way.
    Let us be proud that we stand for THE TRUTH.

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  7. Des permalink
    February 1, 2019 2:51 am

    Dear Helena, I just saw Corey fedmans interview and I read some comments,I don’t believe we should turn against Corey ,in a way I think his playing it smart .I think by now we all know if all go attacking everyone that says something that we don’t agree we it’s not to our advantage,It wasn’t that bad anyway.

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  8. February 1, 2019 9:04 am

    “I don’t believe we should turn against Corey ,in a way I think his playing it smart” – Des

    OF COURSE no one should turn against Corey Feldman. Instead people should understand in what difficult situation the initiators of this mockumentary placed him (as well as other genuine victims of abuse). And did it absolutely intentionally.

    By likening real victims of abuse to liars like Robson and Safechusk the makers of the film only muddy the waters and place themselves in a win-win situation – if the public believes the liars, they will be prompted to believe the genuine victims too (and in this case Corey can have a chance), but if people don’t believe R&S, the cases of genuine victims may be undermined too.

    So in a way these scammers are bribing him now – not with money, but by letting his voice heard in a campaign against pedophiles in Hollywood. This support is a fraud of course as no real help can ever come from these people, but Corey doesn’t know it and is taking it at face value. He thinks that the tide has turned, but I am afraid it hasn’t.

    Throwing the innocent and guilty into one pile will only make it very difficult to distinguish one from the other and all of it will end in a big backlash against the genuine victims.

    But Corey is hopeful:

    THANK U ⁦@NBCNews⁩ 4 FINALLY ALLOWING ME IN MY OWN VOICE 2 SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT! THIS IS THE ARTICLE EVERY1 SHOULD READ!! 2DAY MAKES HISTORY, & ITS ONLY THE THE CREST OF THE TURNING TIDE CALLED #Kids2 (Children’s Rights Movement) #THETRUTHISCOMING

    In the NBCnews article of Jan. 28, 2019 he says:

    I’ll keep fighting for the children’s rights, and I’ll keep working alongside Child USA to reform these statutes of limitations. I believe this is bigger than just a part of the #Metoo movement; it is the coming of a new children’s rights movement. A few years ago, I gave a name to the movement I hoped to see, as a way to pay respect to the larger crisis at hand: #Kids2. This crisis of abuse must stop, the tide must turn and we must make protecting children’s innocence our top priority as a society. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/corey-feldman-child-sexually-abuse-justice-child-victims-act-ncna963081

    It is not Corey’s fault that his truth campaign is used by some thugs who mix the guilty with the innocent. He still says that Michael was his only safe haven, but has to be restrained when talking about “other victims”. If he undermines others he will undermine his own cause, and this is the trap these guys have put him into.

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  9. February 1, 2019 12:09 pm

    Just a couple of notes.

    When genuine victims grow up and speak against their abusers in most cases they have nothing but their word.

    Robson and Safechuck also have nothing but their word.

    So the idea of the makers of Leaving Neverland film is to mix liars and genuine victims into one pile and present themselves as being on the victims’ side. This way they may even start a new anti-abuse movement, at the expense of smearing an innocent man and on condition that you first believe Robson and Safechuck, who may later even turn (God forbid) into the founding fathers of the new “anti-abuse” movement.

    It is as if the makers of the film are telling you: Look at these two guys who have “struggled” for so long. If you believe them you may believe the others too. But if you think them to be liars, how can you be so sure that the others are not lying? Can you really tell the difference? If you disbelieve R&S and believe others these are double standards!

    An average viewer will face a difficult choice and will naturally think – in both cases it is the word of the accusers against the defendants, so why believe one and disbelieve another?

    Here are a couple of clues.

    In the majority of cases genuine victims are consistent, and surely don’t revise their versions every five minutes (like Robson did). Corey Feldman, for example, has never changed his story and moreover, has proof of talking to the police more than 25 years ago, in 1993 when he even gave the names, but to no avail.

    Other genuine victims may keep silence until they grow up, but the big difference is that none of them speak in support of their abusers, especially when they are already adults, responsible for their words.

    And Robson did speak in Michael’s support, as a grown-up and under oath too promising to tell the truth and nothing but the truth. Which has a bigger weight – the revised story told to the media or the word given under oath with his hand on the Bible? How can these statements be even compared???

    Secondly, genuine victims find it extremely difficult to raise themselves to speak about their molesters – they have to be the first to break the reputation of another person, usually held in high esteem in the society, they fear a lot and are anxious that no one will listen (which is often the case). They never find themselves in a comfortable situation like Robson and Safechuck did during the 2005 case when their accusations were very much sought after and could have drawn nothing but applause.

    It took Robson much courage to talk THEN, at the 2005 trial, when he had to go against the tide and disappoint many (Safechuck is evidently more of a coward). But there is absolutely no courage in Robson and Safechuck making a turnabout after Michael’s death as a dead person may be defamed as much as they like due to a gap in the US legislation.

    So there is absolutely no point in turning them into the long-suffering “heroes” now.

    The heroes are those who speak out against their abusers when there is little chance of success – and not when four-hour films are made in an effort to explain how “complex” it all was that the poor “victim” had to lie under oath, praise the man on every corner and even seek a job with the tribute show after the man’s death, and changed his mind only when the prospect of $1,5 billion emerged on the horizon.

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  10. susannerb permalink*
    February 2, 2019 6:14 am

    This is what Kerry Anderson, Michael Jackson’s bodyguard during the 2005 trial, posted on Facebook:

    The moral compass of this world has drastically changed. Corrupt, indecent, mean spirited, immoral, lying, deceitful con artists, prosper regardless of the impact their lying schemes have on compassionate, loving, kind, generous individuals like Michael Jackson.
    The recent despicable, disgusting allegations made, are very disturbing and so unbelievable based on the man I knew and lived with for years.
    Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once said ” In the end, we will not remember the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.” Because Michael Jackson was my friend, I can no longer remain silent while inconsiderate, selfish, lying opportunists, take advantage of, vilify, slander, and verbally assault my friend, who I never observed do anything but display acts of kindness, tremendous generosity, compassion and love to others during one of the darkest times of his life.
    Two of these opportunists have the unmitigated gall to claim their memory serves them better after the birth of their children.
    Those who know me, know that children hold a special place in my heart and held a special place in Michael’s heart.
    How dare you three opportunists totally recant the previous testimony of your personal experiences with Michael Jackson for monetary gain. How sickening and selfish.
    Did you three ungrateful con artists ever once consider how your venomous lies could open wounds and impact Michael’s three young children, his elderly mother, his siblings, and a host of relatives, who I’m certain are still experiencing some form of grief?
    One of the responsibilities of a father is to protect his entire family.
    As fathers, you guys have a lot of growing up to do, especially regarding the seed you are sowing.
    One commonality in all religions is you will reap what you sow. I can only hope someone in your lives is praying for you and your family.
    Was the monetary gain you acquired for your lies worth more than your personal peace?
    Nothing is greater than love and peace of mind. What’s so sad is the recollection of your memories failed to remember the love and peace Michael Jackson gave to you and your families.
    On a personal note, if either one of you desire to discuss this matter in person, name the place, I’ll come to you.
    Sincerely
    Kerry Anderson

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  11. louissy permalink
    February 3, 2019 7:29 pm

    it’s so awful that people too lazy and stupid: and it’s our future/ terrifying. Because they think that if we fans we like blind lovers. Maybe but only in lovers, cause one day after weeks of reading/serchimg i told myself that will protect him always and i will! But we not blind! I was molested and all what i want to say that if they were molested they would never do what they did/ it’s like betryed yourself. I think we don’t need to repit all garbbidge but i remember myself and put me at their place and i said DOESN’T BELIEVE. And not only for what they did in past but also they not directly answered still
    why they protected him
    When they realize or another garbadge abusing but instead of it absolutely remember everythink what mj did/said tham. How much or where it was exactly? What if it doesn’t make people doubt? or our smart and modern generation are well so degraded

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  12. February 6, 2019 8:52 am

    Guys, I have to say a word regarding the interviews of film director Dan Reed with several media (LAT, Rolling Stone, etc.) on “Leaving Neverland”.
    As many of you may have read meanwhile, in the various interviews Reed told that the relationships between MJ and Robson or Safechuck were “love affairs”, that the boys “enjoyed” the sexual acts and loved Michael, and that “sex was pleasant”. They claim they only felt that something was wrong when they were in their 30ies.
    Here is a quote from the LA Times:

    Dan Reed:
    “When Wade told me that he loved Michael, then everything suddenly crystallized and made sense. This is difficult to say, but he had a fulfilling sexual and emotional relationship at the age of 7 with a 30-year-old man who happened to be the King of Pop. And because he enjoyed it, he loved Michael, and the sex was pleasant. I’m sorry, that’s just the reality.
    Most people imagine the kid kind of being forced — that’s not what happened, and Wade makes that very, very clear. If you’re really going to understand what oftentimes child sexual abuse is like, you have to understand that the abuser creates an authentic relationship that if the person was aged 18 or older would be completely normal. The problem is that the child is 7, and a 7-year-old can’t make those decisions.
    We have to face the fact that child sexual abuse isn’t a guy grabbing you in the dark and you scream and he runs off and you tell your mom. If this film can make certain ideas about sexual abuse current — if that can become part of the culture — then we’ve done a good job, because then people will be able to recognize symptoms and understand why Mark or Joe or whoever started drinking heavily in his early 30s and it turned out he had been abused by his schoolteacher.”
    https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-leaving-neverland-sundance-dan-reed-20190125-story.html

    They in all seriousness want to make us believe that children at the age of 7 or 10 can enjoy sexual acts like anal penetration.
    I have to ask now: If they enjoyed the abuse, then why do they sue and why do they want compensation? If sex is so pleasant for children, then why do we need a legal ban of pedophilia? And if the relationship with their abuser was so pleasant, then why should victims start “drinking heavily in their 30ies”? It doesn’t make sense! It sounds as if they didn’t suffer as children during the abuse – so why then should they start to suffer as adults?
    And another question: When children enjoy the abuse, how can their parents recognize the abuse? Because to their theory people will only “be able to recognize symptoms” when the victims are grown up – so there is no way of knowing that children are abused. Does Reed know what he talked about here?

    Doesn’t it sound like they invent a whole new science? Have we ever heard this before from abused children? No – this is exactly what we always have heard from pedophiles and their lobby. THEY always were the ones who wanted to have pedophilia legalized because in their opinion children can have “fulfilling sexual relationships” and enjoy sexual acts with adults.

    So I am asking again: Whose interests represent Dan Reed and R&S with this film? It sounds like horror to me. He talks about “making certain ideas about sexual abuse current” and that that should “become part of the culture”.
    I think this is something we will have to look further into because this is exactly what we always were fighting against and what should be fought against by everybody who wants to protect children.
    We should make it very clear: Children suffer from sexual abuse, and children realize when they are sexually abused! And they only suffer as adults when they also suffered as children! Think about it!

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  13. February 6, 2019 1:25 pm

    “So I am asking again: Whose interests represent Dan Reed and R&S with this film? It sounds like horror to me.” – Susannerb

    Susanne, even if it seems that Dan Reed is against pedophilia (and he himself thinks so), he is still working for their cause, because the initial shock or “introduction” to the topic is part of their big P. plan (the NAMBLA agenda disclosed by Victor Gutierrez decades ago when they said they were going to use MJ as their “poster boy”).

    And this is their first open step in realizing this plan.

    The idea of the plan is to first make people talk about it, no matter how disgusting it is. This shock is needed by them to desensitize the public and eventually make people not that reactive and sensitive to all those words and descriptions. And when people get used to the fact that this subject can be discussed, they will make a step further.

    From this point of view the fact that for three and a half hours Robson and Safechuck are just “describing” the horrible things (that never happened) and the public is subjected to all those details again and again, the film may be considered the realization of that plan and sheer pedophilia propaganda.

    For everyone to understand what this film is doing to people’e minds imagine the alleged “victims” of a cannibal who miraculously survived while in his captivity.

    Will anyone in their right minds allow these alleged victims to describe in most disgusting detail what the beast was doing to his victims? And for three hours too? Detail after detail, scene after scene… Wouldn’t everyone immediately understand that such a thing is absolutely unacceptable? And that it is actually nothing else but the promotion of it?

    Won’t the various authorities and public immediately call for banning this propaganda film? EVEN in case the filmmakers claim that they are “against it”? But how can they be against it if they sort of relish these scenes? And allow these “victims” to describe it in most horrible detail?

    Now add to it that all of it is just fiction and there was no cannibal, and everything they are describing is just an invention. What will be left if you deduct from this formula the crime that was never committed? The only thing that will be left is PROPAGANDA of the perversion.

    This Leaving Neverland ‘documentary’ should be banned altogether, and not only as a fake about MJ but also, and in the first place, as a film propagating pedophilia – even if they pronounce all the right words about how disgusted they are and how horrible it is.

    After all Victor Gutierrez’s book is banned in the US due to its openly pedophilia content, and how is this film better?

    Of course real victims of abuse should tell everything that happened to them to the police, because this is where they are supposed to speak about the crimes committed to them. The police are specially trained to handle these stories, but even they do have their breakdowns after hearing it, and they will certainly not discuss all those heinous details in the public.

    But describing all of it on TV? Especially when it is a flat lie told by the people who testified to the opposite twice?

    What else can it be other than a big pedophilia plan?

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  14. susannerb permalink*
    February 6, 2019 2:26 pm

    Helena, you are absolutely right. Your comment is the continuation of my thoughts. It’s the next step of conclusions we have to draw.
    I just hope that some people think about it and ask the same questions before they go this step further of getting desensitized and fall for this propaganda.

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  15. March 19, 2019 12:01 pm

    This interview is dated March 7th, 2019 and it is about Michael Jacobshagen, a so-called fan of Michael Jackson who recently made a U-turn and started claiming that he had been sexually abused (though he met Michael on ONE occasion only).

    Michael Jacobshagen EXPOSED – Leaving Neverland

    Chantal Obrist is part of an Investigatory team also including Matthias Frank and Jochen Haug all of whom have been working to expose Michael Jacobshagen’s criminal activity in defrauding Michael Jackson fans and are now also handling those child abuse claims. Jacobshagen used to sell his fakes all over the world, first by making friends with his customers and then mentioning that he happened to have a certain memorabilia item from Michael Jackson (with which he would say he was unwilling to part).

    So Jacobshagen is a masterful artist and conman, and knows human psychology very well.

    Chantal Obrist says that when Jacobshagen’s frauds and selling fake MJ memorabilia began to be investigated he opened a new door and started claiming child abuse.

    And this doesn’t seem a chance occurrence to me. By playing the role of a “victim” he may be trying to avoid criminal prosecution for his frauds.

    At the moment the criminal case against Jacobshagen is ongoing, and Chantal Obrist asks everyone who fell fictim to Jacobshagen’s frauds to reach out to their team. They are in contact with the District Attorney Office in Munich and the more evidence they get the sooner Jacobshagen’s criminal activities will be exposed. She asks people not to be afraid of Jacobshagen who is known to threaten and intimidate others.

    Chantal Obrist confirms that Jacobshagen met Michael Jackson on one occasion only and in the company of other child guests. She says that Jacobshagen changes his story every day as it suits him and wherever the money is. The stories he told on Australian TV are plain lies.

    Please spread the news.

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  16. April 1, 2019 1:51 am

    I am curious how many times you met MJ? If you did, only once, I would have more credence in your denial claims. I presume you never met him.

    Thus, to deny those that come forward with rape / abuse claims is utterly disgusting without serious consideration and review. You might have “loved” MJ’s musical / dancing talent, but doesn’t mean he was incapable of being a pedo. Plenty of UK / UK based celebs (Gary Glitter, Jimmy Savile and Rolf Harris to name just 3) were all talented and “loved” but no doubt used their celebratory status to commit the most heinous abuse of minors).

    Wake up, smell the coffee and get real

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  17. April 1, 2019 8:12 am

    “I am curious how many times you met MJ? If you did, only once, I would have more credence in your denial claims” – Aubrey Groves

    I never met Michael Jackson. But it is not necessary for a researcher or investigator to have known a victim in order to investigate the circumstances that led to his death and those who committed a crime against him.

    “to deny those that come forward with rape / abuse claims is utterly disgusting without serious consideration and review.”

    I and many others have been seriously considering/examining/dissecting all allegations against Michael Jackson for 10 years now.

    “You might have “loved” MJ’s musical / dancing talent, but doesn’t mean he was incapable of being a pedo.”

    It would be impossible for me to love Michael’s (on anyone’s) music and dance if this person was a predator. But the research we’ve done gives me the right to declare Michael Jackson 100% innocent. Can I suggest you read a bit about my views on the subject in “About the blog” section?

    “Wake up, smell the coffee and get real”

    I wish you did the same, dear.

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  18. MosquitoSmasher permalink
    April 4, 2019 9:15 am

    This piece of shit apparently has said there will be a doc in May or June of him with 20 “victims” and he claims to have proof, tapes of some sort. I read it on MJJC. I follow many MJ posters on Twitter and I haven’t seen a single mention of it. I truly hope it’s BS because when is this going to end? We’ve finally had great news (bad for Reed, Wade and James) these last couple of days but is this guy about to ruin that? How is the guy even allowed to even do that, he should be behind cars for frauding MJ fans.

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  19. susannerb permalink*
    April 4, 2019 10:57 am

    MosquitoSmasher:
    Do you have any source when and where Jacobshagen said this?

    No need to be intimidated by this scammer. He has nothing in his hands to prove anything. And he is already exposed publicly on German TV as a fraud. As he is well-known for falsifying items (and therefore involved in a lawsuit), everything he would present would be definitely fake and easily be recognized as fake. It would damage himself for his own lawsuit.
    If Dan Reed and his accusers are ever willing to cooperate with him, it will be nothing but embarrassment for them. I almost wish they did, because with this sociopath they would do no favor to themselves.

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  20. April 5, 2019 5:17 pm

    MosquiteSmasher, I agree with Susanne. The more lies these people tell, including Michael Jacobshagen, the bigger will be their crash. It will take time though, because we see that the media in the US behave as if they don’t notice these lies being debunked one after another. So much the worse for them – this way it becomes only more obvious that the anti-Michael campaign is organized and has purposes of its own.

    In other words, we needn’t be in a hurry or be nervous. Let us just give them all the rope to hang themselves with.

    Given all of the above I’ve allowed myself a little break (please forgive me). This period is crucial in our climate for opening up roses from their winter protection and if this job is not done at the proper moment, they will be greatly damaged. The snow crashed many bushes despite every precaution taken in autumn, so I need at least two more days for remedying the situation, and only then will be able to get back to the comments and will resume writing here.

    I know that this is not the best time for getting distracted, but imagine the plants looking at me every day asking for help… I simply cannot resist it.

    Especially since I truly believe that as regards all those bastards we needn’t be in a hurry and for the most part just sit back and observe.

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  21. MosquitoSmasher permalink
    April 7, 2019 8:21 am

    @Helena and Susanne

    I read it on MJJC, no direct quotes but people spoke of Jacobshagen saying this on Twitter and Facebook, that he had shared this on those platforms. Someone I’ve talked to on Twitter, fellow MJ fan said the following to me what he knows about this whole new BS:

    So on his FB page he claims he has seen a tape. Apparently some russian guy on YouTube claims he has that tape and it shows MJ abusing a child, and that tape is locked up somewhere for a lawsuit. LOL, riiiiiiight.

    This same guy claims a streaming platform like Amazon, Netflix or Hulu may show his documentary, as if any of these would show actual child abuse….

    On MJJC I read something about Jacobshagen claiming he has 20 witnesses, not “victims”. I have no idea what to expect, it’s horrible as it is that this is likely to happen, but it sounds like one of those Radar Online fabrications. But I guess we shouldn’t underestimate this horrible guy.

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  22. MosquitoSmasher permalink
    April 7, 2019 11:31 am

    @Helena and Susanne

    Here’s his page. Scroll down a little and you’ll find a post where he talks about MJ. He’s clearly trying to copy Wade and James with the whole “I realize I was abused”, says MJ had a shadowy side bla bla bla. This guy is so full of it. This is clearly a very sad, sick and pathetic man that needs help. It’s basically him saying “I want a piece of that pie too.” he probably thinks there’s a lot of money for him in this. The post about a doc and tapes has been removed apparently. The only thing that is left is this

    https://m.facebook.com/michael.jacobshagen

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  23. April 8, 2019 4:32 pm

    “On MJJC I read something about Jacobshagen claiming he has 20 witnesses, not “victims”. I have no idea what to expect, it’s horrible as it is that this is likely to happen”- MosquitoSmasher

    I’ll tell you what to expect of Jacobshagen – next time he will say that he has 100 witnesses, then 1000 witnesses and so on. Frankly, after everything we’ve learned about Jacobshagen and his ways I really don’t understand how people can listen to him at all. He is so impossible a liar that listening to his tales is a form of sadomasochism. This person belongs in a lynatic asylum or in prison, which is a more suitable place for him as he swindled people out of tens of thousands euros by selling them his fakes.

    Even his family life comes in several variations. To one tabloid he said he was “father of three”, to another tabloid he said he had a three-year old child, and the truth is (as I hear) that he has one child, but maintains no contact with him/her and doesn’t pay any support.
    The best way to deal with this psychopath would be to report him to the police and say good-bye to him for years ahead while he is in incarceration.

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  24. MosquitoSmasher permalink
    April 9, 2019 11:26 am

    @Helena

    I know exactly what you mean. I’ve seen the “exposed” video and did reading on this site and that guy needs help, badly. I really hope enough people have come forward so that he can hopefully be charged and arrested. I did find what I was talking about. Saw it today on Twitter where a fan is exposing him. He claims this :

    “A documentary with several witnesses who will prove what really happened. A video from 1999 will prove what comes from Jackson’s private archive and he has given it to a friend with the order to increase it in 2003 before the police raided the ranch for alleged sexual abuse of children.

    I saw the video from South Africa. The video will be the absolute proof. In June the documentary will be broadcast with over 20 people who will speak there in front of the camera.”

    This is the tweet where I found it all

    I understand why fans don’t take him seriously, but on the other hand he did sell a lot of fake memorabilia for lots of money and he managed to get into the same house as Katherine. This guy has his ways and I definitely think we shouldn’t entirely underestimate him. It seems Taj isn’t gonna do anything about him and I’m not sure if that’s the wisest thing to do. Wade and James were underestimated and now look.

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  25. April 9, 2019 5:15 pm

    “I definitely think we shouldn’t entirely underestimate him” MosquitoSmasher

    It is not the problem of underestimating him – it is the problem of overestimating other people’s desire to know the truth. This is the real problem now – people indeed don’t want to know the truth, don’t mind being lied to and even love the process of being deceived. If everyone around them loves the tales told by Jacobshagen, they will go for these lies even if they know that he is an utter rogue. Don’t know why. Probably because it is more comfortable to them this way – no need to quarrel with anyone over that awful Jackson or become the laughing stock of the carefree and ignorant crowd.

    I wouldn’t be so sure of this process if I didn’t see exactly the same thing taking place – ahem – in other spheres of life, not connected with MJ. It is so common a phenomenon now that it is like the plague – extremely contagious and extremely dangerous. People know very little and don’t want to know more. Knowledge requires time and effort, but instead of doing minimal research people will watch some stupid TV show and if the need comes to take a decision over some important matter they will simply join the crowd. Truth is an unnecessary commodity to them.

    Once I even had an interesting conversation with a young woman, who baffled me with a question: “Why do you want to know the truth? What for? What will it give you?” She just shrugged her shoulders, while I was lost for words.

    Now I know what to answer these people. I want to know the truth because I refuse to be a puppet in the hands of manipulators like those who masterminded the Robson/Safechuck project and now derive enormous pleasure from seeing millions of people falling for their scam. Or smaller manipulators like Jacobshagen and the media who promote his lies for reasons of their own. I don’t want my mind to be crammed with their BS and be also laughed at by these people for giving them this chance.

    But to reach that stage a person needs to do certain work oneself and undergo a change – which is like the process of recovery (from lies) and developing an intolerance to them. And while other people don’t undergo the same process I’m afraid we can’t do anything with these people – all we can do is sit back and observe, taking care of ourselves and preserving our own sanity.

    Indeed, what can you do if they want to be deceived and lied to? What can you do if people want to be ill? Lies are like bacteria and unless people fight the disease they will be more and more susceptible to rogues like Jacobshagen. And if people want a Jacobshagen, they will get one.

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  26. MosquitoSmasher permalink
    April 12, 2019 2:17 pm

    Thank you Helena.

    You actually make a few very good points. And unfortunately there probably will always be a new Jacobshagen right around the corner. There’s just no guarantee at all that in a few years from now we’ll get another guy claiming something. Some people are poison, do anything to get a dollar. Right now I’m hoping that Jacobshagen doesn’t find a platform to release his crap on. But I’m sure he’ll find something, hopefully a super small German channel barely a soul has heard of.

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