First Reviews of Dan Reed’s Leaving Neverland: IT STARTS WITH A BIG LIE
The first week of March this year was packed with so many crucial events around the so-called documentary “Leaving Neverland” that each of them demanded a post. However covering them all was impossible in principle, so I settled on a review of the main episodes in the battle between truth and lies suddenly imposed on the public by Michael Jackson haters.
Some important pieces of the battle may have been omitted and I apologize for it in advance – if something substantial was overlooked it may be added later, in the comments or as an update to the post.
What you will see here are mostly tweets and messages from various people who have seen the film. I myself saw about an hour of Dan Reed’s four-hour product and to my surprise was so unimpressed that even despite its graphic content managed to have a meal in the process. My comment will be minimal as the impression is not full, however my short review of the first part will also be here.
For a start this is what genuine survivors of child sexual abuse say about the film.
March 4, 2019
𝕽𝖚𝖉𝖞
As a victim of child sexual abuse I have never felt so disgusted by a single media event in my life. I take these kinds of allegations really seriously because they are. To lie about something so traumatizing is beyond horrifying to me. These men need to be prosecuted
https://twitter.com/rudyvitoria/status/1102389585957535745
Real victims should never pay attention to this fake documentary, i was a victim myself and i truly feel this is just a mockery it hasn’t affected me but only wish and pray robson and safechuck pay for their lies along with their supporters its disgusting. #LeavingNeverland
https://twitter.com/rudyvitoria/status/1102407462366400512
Kae Purbeck If you were a victim of abuse yourself, how can you just dismiss these men’s stories out of hand because you are a fan if MJ?! That is deeply disturbing.
https://twitter.com/rudyvitoria/status/1102538299628052480
𝕽𝖚𝖉𝖞 @rudyvitoria
I don’t know how you feel about this but they also claimed to have kept rings they said Michael gave to them in fake wedding ceremonies? Had my abuser ever given me a gift I would’ve burned it a long time ago. Who keeps mementos of their own abuse? They’re mocking people like us.
https://twitter.com/rudyvitoria/status/1102409287131897858
𝕽𝖚𝖉𝖞 @rudyvitoria
That’s BY FAR the part of the doc that shocked me the most. A real victim would never keep a memento. The fact that they even suggested that victims are sitting at home with souvenirs on their shelves just in case they want to relive their torment infuriates me.
caramella I’ve been sexually assaulted, never considered ever ever ever in my entire life of lives whether or not it would make me “relevant” or “relatable” in my next career, which was the context of his words. Using this in his next career. You know it’s what it sounds like is why.
Michelle heald
I can assure you the entire #MJFAM are behind all true victims. I won’t pretend to know your pain but I know you have to have a great deal of pain. These guys don’t deserve to be walking free after the mockery they have made of true victims. Prayers for you and others.
𝕽𝖚𝖉𝖞 @rudyvitoria
Tearful reading all the from the #MJFam. I’ve been to therapy & taken meds to deal with the abuse I endured. It’s so hard to come through the other side. Shame on @HBO, @Oprah, Wade, James & Dan for playing with these issues. May God forgive you. #MJInnocent #LeavingNeverland
Steve Brookstein As a survivor, I don’t feel silenced by Michael Jackson fans. I feel silenced by media controlled by powerful paedophiles who would throw anyone else under the bus to protect their own.
The viewers who expected evidence in the film didn’t find any.
Blackwings @shadowsforlight
2 hours in, and not a shred of evidence. Just grotesque pedophilia fan fiction. Feels very emotionally manipulative and propagandistic.
RazörFist @RAZ0RFIST
…and how they record even the most inoccuous phone calls, yet conveniently never record one where Michael says the faintest incriminating word. In hours and hours of tape. Boy, that’s some uncharacteristically bad luck.
https://twitter.com/Tutankhamun1989/status/1103415060947501057
WildStyle Forgive me, but just got to the MJ showing Wade porn section. Sorry to be graphic, but apparently a grown mans penis in his mouth was ok and something he “looked forward to” when visiting with Michael again after being away in Australia. But later when he got back and MJ started showing him porn (a “new thing” straight from the Arvizo trial)… that wasn’t ok. That wasn’t so fun. And he still looks so troubled by it. Ok, Wade.
Just a short note on the above – besides the “penis” horror tale which is of course a totally new thing as compared with Robson’s testimony under oath in 2005, porn was not an issue there either. We remember Robson’s genuine surprise at the prosecutor telling him that “the exhibit” he was holding in his hands (an erotic heterosexual magazine) once belonged to Jackson. Robson said that this was the first time he knew Michael had any such material.
What the viewers also noticed is that there was something not right about the strange way the two characters in Dan Reed’s film describe their “abuse” and how jolly both “victims” and their family members are.
Mandy Hale
Watching #LeavingNeverland. I’ve always been Team #MJInnocent & so far this documentary is only confirming that belief. There is something very odd & disturbing about how jolly all the “victims” and their families are. The moms keep giggling like schoolgirls.
https://twitter.com/MissMandyHale/status/1102388395626692608
What doesn’t add up is the relaxed and smiling way they describe their first meetings with Michael and the same relaxed and composed way they describe the alleged abuse.
Safechuck breaks his horror story about how his “molestation started” by talking of his penis swelling. Yes, it was just like that – a graphic description coming out of the blue. Besides this sudden intimate revelation what also takes you aback is that while saying that he is looking straight into the camera and is speaking in a calm voice with a kind of a lingering smile to it.
Well, I have seen videos of genuine victims talking and remember all of them stammering, making extremely long pauses and struggling to utter just a single word. And Safechuck’s smooth narration definitely has nothing to do with the painful way genuine victims talk – even if they try to occasionally smile.
Here is just one video and you will see what I mean. Mind you that this man is not even describing the abuse he suffered but is only asking other victims to seek help like he did. To reveal the details of his abuse will take him and other real victims a thousand more miles to go before (or if) they ever manage it.
If you compare the above with Safechuck’s relaxed pose you will see that he and Robson are an imitation. A very good imitation, but still an imitation.
Just look at his relaxed pose
The post-film show of the two actors talking to Oprah produced on some viewers the impression of pure evil.
𝕽𝖚𝖉𝖞 @rudyvitoria
Just caught up on last night’s #LeavingNeverland & #AfterNeverland and I’ll never forget @Oprah saying “when you’re 7 & someone strokes your penis it feels good” & Wade nodding in agreement. I was 5 when I was molested. It didn’t feel good. How dare you. I feel crushed. #MJInnocent
𝕽𝖚𝖉𝖞 @rudyvitoria
Pure evil. I don’t even know what to say. I had to pause it and compose myself.
https://twitter.com/rudyvitoria/status/1102956496730628096
https://twitter.com/rudyvitoria/status/1102957511668318209
Indeed, imagine the genuine victim we’ve seen in the video hearing that “stroking his penis at age seven felt good”. I think he would have simply thrown up in front of the camera.
The same creepy feeling of something terribly wrong about Dan Reed’s film came over the viewers after the program “Good Morning Britain”, where the filmmaker clashed with Piers Morgan despite the latter’s reasonable and perfectly adequate questions.
Becoming more and more irate, Dan began accusing Piers, 53, of falling for the story from the singer’s estate, which has claimed the two men, who are now in their thirties, are only going back on their initial statements in the court case as a bid to win millions of dollars.
“They’ve repeatedly said under oath nothing happened,” the journalist offered, citing a previous story in the media which saw “everyone rushing to believe the accusers’ truth,” when it actually “turned out the truth was a very different thing”.
“Why should we not believe them?” Dan blasted. “You are swallowing the Michael Jackson line hook, line and sinker. This is not about money.”
“No I’m not!” Piers insisted, but Dan ignored him and carried on.
Piers asked if the director was “100% sure” if the word of the two accusers was enough to prove Jackson was a paedophile.
He said: “It is all very weird and odd and makes me feel uncomfortable. I’m just not as certain as you are that Jackson was proven to be a paedophile and I’m concerned about the credibility of the two people you so whole-heartedly rely on.”
Dan said he believed their accounts and to “concoct a whole charade” of the family’s being devastated would “beggar belief”.
Dan explained there were eyewitness notes, statements made by Neverland staff that corroborated the allegations.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/piers-morgan-clashes-michael-jackson-14093747
What struck some viewers most is that Dan Reed was not shy to express pedophilia views.
The Wigsnatcher His narrative on sexual relationships between adults and children is wrong in general. Were you totally creeped out by him on Piers Morgan? He says “Sex can be pleasant” between adults and children! Something is wrong with this man I tell you.
https://twitter.com/TheWigSnatcher1/status/1103328789130629121
Justice for The Falsely Accused These creeps like Robson, Safechuck and Reed come out and talk about little children having a “sexually and emotionally fulfilling relationship” with an adult man, internalizing NAMBLA propaganda just to further their agenda, but it is MJ who is the pervert? I don’t think so!
Sameh Wow. “Lover” instead of “abuser”??!Dan Reed has already described it as “the sex” instead of “the abuse”. Would he care to explain his choice of words? No wonder why Safechuck’s accounts are drawn from NAMBLA affiliate Gutierrez’s recounts!
And the thing I noticed about Dan Reed is that when attacking Piers Morgan he said the following, as reported here:
“I make allegations about Michael but Michael’s dead and I’ve put his rebuttals, his denials in the film,” Dan explained. “Wade Robson and James Safechuck are not dead…To talk about hard evidence, soiled underwear 20 years later, I’m sorry that’s… In paedophile cases, if this was tried in a court it would be on the evidence of these two very credible witnesses.”
Forget about the “hard evidence” and “soiled underwear” nonsense – in the recent post about MJ’s personal maid Adrian McManus who washed Michael’s and his guests’ clothes and underwear, I found not a single shred of evidence of what Dan Reed is talking about, even in her latest and nastiest version aired on Australian TV.
But what astonished me most is that Dan Reed admits it himself that it is he who is making these allegations (“I make allegations about Michael…” ) and he is absolutely not impartial here. After such an admission all questions about the gentre of this film will fall off by themselves – the film is NOT a documentary, but is a deliberate hatchet job where everything, from music and changing the timeline of the events to open and vicious lies about Jackson, is dedicated to his murderous character assassination.
The example of this assassination is the way Dan Reed tampered with the tape of Michael Jackson congratulating Wade Robson on his birthday.
Michael Jackson: “Hello Wade. Congratulations little one. Today is your birthday. I don’t celebrate birthdays, of course, but I thought I would take this moment to say congratulations on the day that you were born. In my opinion, you should spend this day with your mother & your father, who conceived you. You should be giving them the presents & being thankful that they brought you into the world.”
And the first few seconds in this video show us the way it looks in Dan Reed’s trailer:
MJJJusticeProject @MJJJusticePrjct
Pay attention people judging #MichaelJackson there is manipulation in the film #LeavingNeverland – He didn’t come between children & their parents, quite the opposite- in this bday message Michael appears to tell WADE to appreciate his parents and give them gifts –
Let me add that besides Michael asking the boy to be closer with his parents this message shows the unique way of his thinking – Michael tells Wade that it is he who should be grateful to his parents for bringing him into the world and who should make presents to them. After listening to this tape I have no doubt whatsoever that together with the tape Michael sent gifts to Wade’s parents too (and rings to his mother, same as to Safechuck’s).
Coming back to Dan Reed’s film the only journalist who has grilled Dan Reed about his product is Piers Morgan.
As you can see in the above tweet Dan Reed ridiculed Piers Morgan, but the journalist responded saying that he was simply doing his job, putting to him “the obvious questions any journalist should ask about the documentary, which is based on the testimony of accusers who said (under oath) the complete opposite before Jackson died, and now stand to make millions from his estate by changing their stories.”
Who could expect that in the shameless smear campaign against MJ Piers Morgan will remain the pillar of journalism in the UK? Only recently Charles Thomson, an award winning journalist himself, was talking about the death of journalism – however it seems that all is not lost yet given Piers Morgan’s example.
https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1103407021460803584
Charles Thomson @CEThomson
A ‘journalist’ who refuses to do any research calling somebody else a disgrace for stating a fact. Death of journalism.
https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1103283053567320064
Charles Thomson @CEThomson
I dropped a couple of little truth bombs on a pair of BBC presenters yesterday. Watch this video below and hear how surprised they were after I’d finished. One, an ex-journalist, couldn’t understand why nobody else is balancing the story with these facts.
Later Charles Thomson spoke again on the BBC:
When some MJ supporters refuse to watch Dan Reed’s product the arrogant media tells them to see the film before commenting. Charles Thomson has the following to say about it:
Charles Thomson @CEThomson
Why would anyone who’s spent 5 years reading the court documents, including lengthy deposition transcripts, need to watch a heavily edited TV show by a director who freely admits that it is completely biased in favour of the accusers & contains zero scrutiny of their allegations?
https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1102246102273802241
Instead of inspiring people to watch the film Dan Reed’s mock documentary inspired people to come out of the woodwork and speak up.
Brandi Jackson revealed that while Wade claims that MJ allegedly monopolized the boy for himself, her uncle Michael actually set up Wade and Brandi together and they dated for 7 years after that.
Brandi Jackson was later interviewed by John Ziegler. Among the many things we learn is that Brandi was booked for interviews with two major TV channels, but both were inexplicably cancelled; knowing Wade very well she can see where he is trying not to laugh when he tells his graphic story; and after her uncle’s death Robson’s mother Joy called her and had the nerve to suggest that she was best suited to care for Michael’s children than his mother Katherine. In other words the interview is a gem – here is a link to it.
A woman who worked at Neverland in the early 90s and initially didn’t want to be involved found the film to be the last straw. She recalled that the Safechucks had no problem of taking advantage of Jackson’s generosity and that Michael even chose not to be on the property when they came.
Judi Brisse @JudiBrisse
I didn’t want to get involved Maria, but the time has come. Thank you.
Judi Brisse @JudiBrisse
I worked in the house at Neverland when the Safechucks were there, in the early 90’s. They had no problem taking advantage of Mr.Jackson’s generosity back then. Michael was never on property when they came. He chose not to be.
Girls started recollecting their own sleepover experiences with Michael Jackson:
https://twitter.com/Edina97/status/1102427205269889026
Hammertonhal posted the picture of a girl who slept in Michael Jackson’s bed.
“During the trial they kept talking about all the boys who slept in his bed. Well, I’m a girl and I slept in his bed when I was a kid. The prosecutor must know that there were girls around, but he never mentioned it. I was tempted to offer myself up as a defense witness, but I didn’t relish the media circus” [Ian Halperin: Unmasked, page 108-109]
He talked for more than two hours in a livestream interview with Nicole and disclosed some of the two guys’ secrets.
One, for example, is why Robson waited for the 7-year statute of limitations to expire after the 2005 trial in order to release his story. Ross’s answer to that is because Robson was afraid to be prosecuted for perjury (see 11:50 of the tape) and didn’t want to take any risks.
Scott Ross says that before allowing Wade Robson to testify at the 2005 trial he interviewed Robson for 3 or 4 hours to see whether he was telling the truth. Then came a short talk with Thomas Mesereau and Susan Yu, and then another long interview with two detectives on the prosecution side. Scott Ross doubts that Robson could outsmart all of them – the people with decades of experience in investigating crimes and interviewing witnesses (10:00 of the tape).
And Scott Ross didn’t ask Robson simple questions like “Did he do it to you?”. Ross used the method called by him as “Colombo”, when the detective returns to the same point an hour later and words it in a different way to see the consistency of the answer. Remarkably, Wade Robson never wavered and never once slipped in his answers (28:50 of the tape).
When Scott Ross hears that now Robson claims that he was subpoenaed by the defense he says he would love Robson to show him that subpoena (20:50 of the tape).
As to Safechuck who complained about Michael’s legal team pressuring him into testifying, Scott Ross says that Safechuck was irrelevant as a witness because the judge had ruled against his testimony long before the defense opened their case at the trial (mark 16:15 of the tape).
And what legal team did Safechuck talk about at all if it was only Scott Ross and his wife Lisa? And they certainly didn’t call Safechuck as he was a non-entity to them. The only one left of the “team” was Eva Tavasci, but she didn’t call Safechuck either as at the time she was preoccupied with a very ill relative of hers and was not available even to Ross and sometimes for 3 days at a time (17:15 of the tape).
At 56:30 Scott Ross talks about the behavioral changes that take place in sexually abused children – they grow shy and quiet, don’t talk and jerk when somebody touches them – and none of it was noticed about Robson and Safechuck. (To make sure of it you need to watch at least the first 40 min of the film and see Safechuck happy and elated in Michael’s presence).
As to Dan Reed who now claims that he looked through “eyewitness notes, statements made by Neverland staff that corroborated the allegations”, Scott Ross compared those declarations to a piece of toilet paper. These notes are worthless as they were not made under oath and cannot be cross-examined. What’s more, during the 2005 trial Scott Ross found some of those “eyewitnesses” not even able to speak or read English! (mark 23:10 of the tape).
Another fine piece in Scott’s interview is that Robson’s brother Shane is a policeman with a licence both in Australia and the US, so Scott wonders: “Your brother is a police officer and you don’t tell your own brother?” Scott and Shane are still friends and knowing full well Ross’s views on Wade’s story his brother Shane Robson still works with Scott on their mutual investigations. As to why he took part in the film Shane said: “He is my brother. I need to be supportive of him”.
The talk about Safechuck’s relatives reminds me of his cousin Tony who said in October 2013 that he and Jimmy used to hang out together at Neverland and all allegations about MJ are bullshit. It was the time when Tony didn’t yet know that his cousin Jimmy would join Robson’s complaint, so this tweet was the last we heard from Tony:
TONY SAFECHUCK
“My cousin and I were 2 of the kids that used to hang out with him! Great person, it’s all bullshit, no settlement happened.”
Tony’s tweet is in direct contradiction with statements of Safechuck’s mother who says that she danced when she learned of MJ’s death:
Stephanie Safechuck “Oh thank god, he can’t hurt anymore children. Those were my thoughts, and I danced. I was so happy he died.” – James Safechuck’s mother on Michael Jackson’s death #LeavingNeverland
Why was this callous woman so happy when Michael Jackson died if Tony tells us that at that time they considered Michael Jackson a great person?
The lies these people tell us would be even entertaining and fun to disentangle, if they weren’t that tragic in the first place.
A couple of other incredible details were also noted by knowledgeable MJ fans. Someone recalled that Wade Robson was caught visiting the blog of the worst Michael Jackson’s haters – apparently, in a quest for details of his own abuse or suitable timeline for it.
PHOENIX What real victim has to research his own abuse on sites decided to smearing his “abuser”?
Others recall that while we are told to believe that both characters were protecting their “lover” not knowing that it was a crime, the judge who looked into their case didn’t buy this BS.
“Plaintiff knew at the time of the decedent’s death in June 2009 that it was a crime for an adult to engage in sexual conduct with a minor.”
https://twitter.com/Hammertonhal/status/1102798468345671680
There were so many versions of their stories that now I am a bit confused which version is valid for today – “they didn’t know it was abuse and thought it was love” or “they knew it was a crime but were protecting their lover”. But in any case it was a perjury on their part, and Scott Ross is probably right when he says that to avoid going to jail Robson deliberately waited for the 7-year statute of limitations to expire before releasing his complaint.
These guys seem to have safeguarded themselves from any problem while working on their elaborate long-term plan.
The Estate’s lawsuit against HBO will tell you more about the twists and turns in these two charactes’ tales: https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/mj-arbitration-doc-1.pdf
And yes, a week ago Richard Plepler who had worked HBO for 28 years suddenly resigned amid what they called the “restructuring” of the company.
HBO CEO Richard Plepler to resign amid restructuring under AT&T
CNBC February 28, 2019
HBO CEO Richard Plepler is out amid a broad restructuring of the company under new parent AT&T T , according to an internal memo obtained by CNBC.
Plepler had been at HBO for nearly three decades and led the company as it became one of the market leaders in streaming video on demand. AT&T’s purchase of Time Warner earlier this year spurred reports of a culture clash between the telecom giant and its newly acquired media assets.
Plepler is leaving in part because he would have seen less autonomy under the new structure, according to a person familiar with the transition. Plepler is still working out the exact timing of the transition, the person said, but chafed at the prospect of a larger company and more oversight.
https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/hbo-ceo-richard-plepler-resign-223027818.html
MJ supporters responded to it as follows:
The pushed narrative states Richard is resigning because of “reconstruction.” I’ll say the Michael Jackson Estate’s lawsuit over #LeavingNeverland has more to do with it than anything else. Oh not to mention that backlash this film is going to receive.
After Dan Reed’s film aired on TV a certain clip from it came to Taj Jackson’s attention.
The clip has to do with Robson’s explanations why he had to lie in the courtroom. According to the heart-wrenching story of this epitome of human kindness he felt sorry for Michael’s children and couldn’t bear the thought of them left alone if their father went to jail, and this convinced him even more that he should lie in court to protect him.
Here is the transcript of that clip:
Chantal Robson: (music) “So we are at the ranch with all his family. Michael didn’t look well. He looked very sick. His kids were there. Everybody was there.
Wade Robson (music, an aerial view of Neverland): His mind was in a whole other place (music). I remember all of us sitting at dinner and Paris, his daughter, just wanting her dad’s attention, like pulling on his arm and pulling on his fingers, “Daddy, daddy, daddy”. And he wasn’t there, and I was feeling really sad.
(video of MJ’s children) What if he loses? What if he goes to jail? These are the last couple of times that they see their daddy, you know? Which built my conviction even that much more – to save him.
Amanda Robson: “I think that definitely helped Wade to go into the courtroom feeling that he wanted to support Michael”.
And this is what Taj Jackson revealed in his tweet on the above:
“How do you know, you weren’t there.” That has been one of the main lines the press have used against me as I speak up for my uncle. Someone sent me this part of the “doc”, and I can tell you with 100% certainly, Wade’s WHOLE family flat out lied on camera in this video.
If I was not physically there myself to witness this dinner, I probably would have not even questioned it. This story beat is supposed to give Wade the motivation to “lie” under oath to “protect” Michael Jackson. Problem is, this dinner HAPPENED AFTER Wade testified… Oops
Timelines matter and so does the truth. Although this is carefully scripted and edited, Chantel says “Everybody was there”. She means me, Brett and his family. But our names were wisely omitted because it doesn’t fit this narrative.
After watching this segment, you can now see that it is a lie. And the fact that they can lie on camera & twist this event & timeline so freely and convincingly, told me everything I need to know.
As Dan Reed said.. “he had a narrative to tell”. But truth has its own narrative.
A shot from the clip
The scene of the whole Robson family lying on camera is indeed powerful, but a much more powerful side to it is that it reminds us of Michael’s children who due to this devilish campaign against their father must be living in sheer hell now.
What brand of stone are these people’s hearts made of if they allow themselves to lie so horribly with no regard for Michael’s children? And why doesn’t anyone care for Michael’s kids while embracing and siding with the two liars?
Lisa Croft I cannot imagine what this must be doing to his children.. The whole way this was done was so unethical and it just damages believability of victims and sets the hard earned MeToo movement back.. Dan Reed was so arrogant and blindly insensitive about it..
Incidentally, when Taj Jackson made his tweet about the whole Robson family lying in the above scene, it miraculously disappeared from the film and was cut out before screening in the UK.
Michael’s other nephew TJ Jackson was right when he tweeted that the world is sick.
TJ Jackson This was my Uncle Michael’s hero. This is who he modeled his life after… is showing kids love now a crime?! My uncle was just too darn good for our sick, greedy & manipulative world driven by money and ratings. His heart was too big. Period. RIP Uncle Michael. I love you!
A short note on the above. Jesus Christ was indeed Michael Jackson’s hero and the one he modeled his life after. Another image of Christ was hanging over Michael’s bed and right at the time when the alleged “abuse” was allegedly taking place there. We’ve seen this image in the photo of Michael’s room and the same image over Michael’s bed in the outtakes of Oprah’s interview with MJ in February 1993.
The image of Christ over Michael Jackson’s bed
The image of Christ over Michael’s bed in the outtakes from Oprah’s interview with MJ
Well, probably others also have a cross or image of Christ over their beds, but what surprises me most is that no one in the media ever mentioned it when describing Michael’s bedroom. They would talk for years about some secret closets and every speck of dust there, but they will never tell you who was Michael’s hero and that there was an image of him in the very center of Michael’s room.
This detail about Michael Jackson was simply not to be known by the public. The public was to know the “official” version about MJ propagated by the media, prosecution and various con artists – the version which had nothing to do with the truth.
But as Abraham Lincoln said,
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time” – Abraham Lincoln
There is a limit to people’s patience, and this seems to be the moment when people start saying “enough is enough”. At least this is what the Schleiter family from Germany said just several days ago.
“Enough is enough. Today we speak up for Michael because he deserves better and because he was the best friend we could have ever imagined”
Here is their letter in full:
An Open Letter
From the Schleiter Family
Hi, we are Franziska, Anton, Marlies and Wolfgang – brother and sister and our parents. We were close friends with Michael Jackson from childhood on. What we are about to say comes out of a place of great love and appreciation. If you would like to quote this text, please do not take it out of context and always link back to this page. We won‘t be giving any interviews to the press. Thank you for understanding. This is all we have to say:
04.03.2019
Enough is Enough.
In 1995 we first met Michael at a German TV Show. That day, something that we could never have imagined in our wildest dreams happened. It was the start of a unique friendship. A friendship so normal yet so unusual and magical. One that would last until the very last day of Michael‘s life and will continue forever in our hearts.
From the beginning we knew that what we were privileged to experience, was a treasure worth protecting. Especially regarding the world we live in, with media that wants to make up stories that sell, rather than seeking the truth and people who want to read shocking headlines rather than knowing the truth. Over the years we were offered over a quarter million of Euros for interviews, but no money in the world could ever materialize a value that would stand above the value of our memories with Michael. This is the reason why we have never spoken a word publicly about our friendship.
Something has changed our mind about speaking up lately. The utter shocking news of a new documentary that would portray Michael once again as a child molester. Even writing this sentence, putting his name and that word together, makes us feel sick to our stomach. Michael never behaved inappropriately towards us and we neither witnessed nor suspected him doing it to someone else ever.
We have been angry with the public treatment of Michael many times in the past, but we chose to stay silent – hoping the truth to run marathons and protecting Michael and his privacy.
And we had good reason to be angry, for example when Anton was falsely portrayed in a German tabloid as having a homosexual affair with Michael. We witnessed first hand how ugly the media can be and how they make up most terrible lies just to have a story. When our father denied to talk to an inquiring journalist on the phone, the story read something like “Father refuses to defend Michael”. Unfortunately scandals sell much better than anything else.
Spending a lot of time with Michael, we experienced two-faced people more than once. When Michael was in the room, they acted most charming with seemingly good intentions, but once he turned his cheek they would become rude and you could sense that their intentions were not that good after all. In front of us, they didn‘t care showing their real face. We were only the shy German family in the background, not worth paying attention to. But we were observing and slowly but surely we started to get a glance at the often difficult world Michael was living in. It was a world in which it was so very difficult to trust.
And yet Michael was kind to everybody he would meet and believed in the good so strongly. Some would call it naiv, to us it was just one of his character traits that made us look up to him. Giving everybody a chance, even if you’ve been fooled by people over and over, really is remarkable. And it makes us even more sad to know, that many took and still take advantage of this.
Being around Michael made us realize that everybody wanted a piece of him. We often wondered why, from all people, he would let us into his circle of trusted friends. Now we understand it was maybe the fact that we didn’t want anything from him and simply enjoyed being together. When he offered to pay for our education, our parents denied because it was too much of a gift. It was a no brainer for us then, but looking back on it now, it was probably something that Michael didn’t experience often.
Those who wanted a piece of his fame or his money did not care about Michael as a person or about his kind heart and uplifting spirit. It is truly a shame and we almost feel bad for those people in a way, because blinded by money, they probably didn’t realize that they just had the honor to meet a person that has a uniqueness about him that the world would only witness every other century. His music, his message, his creative and genius mind was truly one of a kind.
While our friendship with Michael was very normal in a sense that we hung out, chatted on the phone, went to the movies just like friends do, it was also magical in the sense that Michael had a warmth about him that was captivating. You would immediately feel comfortable and safe around him. He was one of the most humble persons we’ve ever met, always putting the well being of others over his own. There was never a single moment of doubt of his pure heart and intentions, which also led our parents to allow us to travel alone with Michael.
Though we‘re speaking up today, we still want to protect and respect our personal stories. What we can say though, is that each and every time we had to say good bye to Michael, we all cried because we knew how much we would miss him. The times we spent together were the most fun. And while Michael was always up for a good water balloon fight, he was also a great mentor, teaching us about life and sharing his incredible knowledge. We can remember how excited he was to tell us about the Wright brothers when he learnt that we had never heard of them. He gave us books and movies of stories we could learn from and he was eager for us to develop our talents.
We understand that our story can only put a small piece of the puzzle together for those who are still in doubt of what to believe about Michael Jackson. To those who still doubt that he was innocent, we can only plea to simply do your own research. And if the fact that Michael had to endure every possible raid of privacy in his trial in 2005 and still was found NOT GUILTY on ALL CHARGES, if this fact is still not enough for you, then maybe you can simply listen to his music.
Meeting many of his fans over the years, we were astounded how much they “got him“ as a person, even though they never personally met him. Michael and his fans had a unique friendship of their own. He trusted them and it is no wonder why they continue to trust in his good heart. They simply listened to his music and to his words. If you listen closely you‘d know all of his stories and you‘d know what kind of person he was. You would know that his mission for his time on earth was not only to bring happiness in form of melodies and rhythm but also to change the world to the better.
Boy, how he could inspire us to be our best selves and to show more love and respect to each other! Yet people choose to blow up lies that threaten to overshadow all of the greatness this man has brought.
Enough is enough.
Today we speak up for Michael because he deserves better and because he was the best friend we could have ever imagined.
Anton and Franziska and our parents Marlies and Wolfgang
Email : contact@schleiter-family.com
The Schleiter Family – All Rights Reserved
https://schleiter-family.com/?fbclid=IwAR3hljAKeK5QQeCa3pgYrWHWhLbHfjNPh4JxjnmhVRmZnWxOtZ34qaX0rVg
This remarkable letter managed to convey to us a piece of the real him – the pure man we can hardly see now behind the thick crust of lies and a monstrous amount of mud covering his face.
Like Michael Jackson during his lifetime most of us are now immersed in studying innumerable lawsuits, debunking revolting lies abut MJ and even reading pro-pedophilia books about him written by personalities like Victor Gutierrez – and are sick and tired of the whole thing in the same way Michael was sick and tired of it too.
In the climate we live in now the letter from the Schleiter family is like a breath of fresh air and sip of clean water enjoyed for a brief moment before we have to dive into the mud again in the hope that telling the truth about Michael Jackson may produce something positive one day.
Mark Flear @MarkFlear
It’s an odd time to live in generally. I suppose this brings up old emotions for some. People can and do change their minds. The younger generation might be more wise to facts in this age. So keeping at truth seeking and dissemination might produce something positive.
https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1101989173542694912
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And now comes the difficult case of Corey Feldman.
Corey is a survivor of child sexual abuse who has been consistently fighting pedophilia and the right of abused children to get justice for themselves. At the moment he finds himself between a rock and a hard place – on the one hand he has the fondest memories of Michael Jackson and can’t even imagine him do anything to a child, but on the other hand Corey is campaigning for the right of all victims of child sexual abuse, and is afraid to undermine his own cause by doubting these two characters.
His instinct didn’t let him down when he watched the film and wrote the following tweets:
The tweets had to be rewritten as otherwise they are virtually unreadable:
OK I watched it all. I know what I experiences, and yes every experience was the same .. right up to the sex part! That is where it becomes LaLa land, instead of Neverland for me.
We never spoke about sex other than a few warnings about how sex was scary and dangerous. MJ never once swore in my presence, never touched me inappropriately, and never ever suggested we should be lovers in any way!
I feel like if people could hear our tape, I’m thinking about releasing, which could give people a real look at what a 30-year old man/child and a 13 year old boy would discuss, so everyone could hear the innocence of a relationship.
Again I wasn’t there when those boys were. But I was there around the same time as Jimmy, and I saw many kids around (girls included) who I am still friends with to this day, and none of us were ever approached by him in a sexual way at all! So as much as those 2 men deserve to have their voices heard, so do the thousands of kids who hung around him, that don’t agree!
Most pedos are serial offenders, they don’t have self control. So given the opportunity which he certainly had with me and others, being alone, with no parents around, how did he control those urges so well, while so blatantly sexual with those 2 boys? It doesn’t really fit the profile, but what motive besides $ do they have? Abandonment is a strong one!
However I do take issue with the fact that this whole thing is one sided with no chance of a defense from a dead man, and no evidence other than the word of 2 men who as adults defended him in court! But as we will never really, I only have my memories.
And thank God for me, my memories of MJ were mostly fond, aside from one and only fight because he incorrectly feared I would turn on him, and make up lies. I never did. I never would! Pray those boys can sleep with the same clarity of consciousness! Let God be your judge!
However then Corey Feldman was contacted by HLN of CNN and obviously offered a chance to speak about his fight against child abuse, certainly in connection with their Leaving Neverland film which required from him a “balanced” view on the problem.
In the elation that a major TV network noticed his lone fight against pedophilia Corey Feldman wrote the following:
I have just spoken with CNN to give a brief statement! This is important, as my position has changed as I continued to process everything. I will go on camera with the news network to discuss my decision and reiterate my support for all survivors! Heading to HLTV CNN to answer some important questions, live on 7am. Trying to make sense of all of this. It’s a difficult time for all of us. Let’s try and stay calm, and find out what God’s will is in all of this.
And this is what came of Corey’s plans and the way they were presented by HNL.
Here is the full tape with a misleading title “Corey Feldman: I can no longer defend Michael Jackson” and its transcript:
Actor, Corey Feldman, a long-time friend of Michael Jackson tells HLN’s Mike Galanos about the man he knew and how that jibes with the startling allegations made in the controversial HBO documentary “Leaving Neverland.”
HLN Host: …Now that actor is clarifying what he’s said, saying: “Michael was my friend, but that doesn’t mean that I condone any harmful behavior, physical or mental. This is new information to me too. It takes time to absorb and process”. Let us pick up with that last line – absorbing, processing – where are you with all this?
Corey Feldman: Well, as I mentioned in my statement, it is obviously a very emotional time for me. And this is a very emotional process for any survivor of abuse, of anybody who’s been through these things.
First of all, I ask people to put themselves in my shoes. You are a kid who has endured sexual abuse. And during those times I am looking at somebody like Michael Jackson as a friend, as a big brother figure, and he was that person to me. However, as you’re friends with this guy you start to hear more and more accusations being thrown around by various people and it comes to a point where as an advocate for victims, as an advocate for changing the statute of limitations to make sure that victims’ voices are heard, it becomes impossible for me to stay virtuous and not at least consider what’s being said. And not listen to what the victims are saying.
This is very important. We must give them their voice. We must allow them to speak and therefore we also must consider all sides of this, even as uncomfortable as that may be.
HLN Host: Got it. Describe your relationship with Michael Jackson. What was it like?
Corey Feldman: Absolutely nothing inappropriate ever happened, and we were friends. As I said I have a tape of the two of us hanging out, and when you listen to it you can hear the innocence in the conversation, but again I don’t want to be perceived as I am here to defend Michael because I can no longer do that.
I cannot in good consciousness defend anyone who is being accused of such horrendous crimes. But at the same time I am not here to judge him because again he didn’t do those things to me and that was not my experience. So therefore my place is not to be the judge and is not to be the accuser and not to be the defender. My job in this is to focus on what’s most important – helping to reform the statute of limitations in every state, because if we can reform the statute of limitations we can prevent things from ever getting to this point.
The fact is, I started reporting my molestations to the police in 1993 while all they were investigating Michael Jackson for the first time. I’ve never had a shot at justice. I’ve never had a chance to bring my predators to the court system. I’ve never had that opportunity. I’m hoping that after decades-long battle that through the process of making my own documentary – which I am making right now and I hope to find a distributor for it – we can get my story heard, we can help abolish the statute of limitations and I can finally have justice for my own case. So I think it’s extremely important that we all take a pause and listen to all victims right now.
And I certainly want to apologize if anyone took anything out of context in those tweets because it wasn’t meant in any way to question the validity of the victims.
(the host has no questions about Corey Feldman’s campaign and proceeds with “Leaving Neverland” instead)
HLN Host: Did you watch parts of Leaving Neverland?
Corey Feldman: I watched the first part. To be honest with you it was very emotional, was very painful and I couldn’t watch all of it.
HLN Host: We are going to play – if it is okay with you – it is just a short clip. This is James Safechuck talking and he is talking about a marriage ceremony he had with Michael.
(Safechuck talks about the “mock marriage ceremony”)
HLN Host: James Safechuck. You can tell he is still processing. They both tell compelling stories. What are some of your reactions and thoughts?
Corey Feldman: Shocking and disturbing. There can be nothing else that can be said other than shocking and disturbing. Very compelling stories. And both of these guys sound very believable, because they are talking about a cycle that’s called grooming and the grooming cycle, the grooming process certainly fits the mold. And that is why this case must be taken seriously and that is why all cases must be taken seriously.
And again, my issue – when I wrote those tweets – was the way that documentary had laid it out, because as a filmmaker I was making a judgment in the sense that I know that to stay journalistically proper, to stay true to form we must investigate all sides, so certainly to have credence in my own film we are going to make sure to reach out to the people we are accusing and also to people who knew those people, so I think we have to have an all-rounded conversation.
That’s all what I was trying to say. And I really hope that with raising this awareness, thank God that they are doing this, and getting it out there, and all I can say is I wish it had happened when Michael was alive, so that he could have been in trial and faced it, and defended himself, and that can’t happen today. So I don’t know where this leads, but I do know that we keep talking and we keep hearing each voice and each victim.
(the host is not interested in hearing other voices, all he wants to hear is Safechuck and Robson)
HLN Host: We should say that to James Safechuck and Wade Robson who are featured in the film. [..] Back to you when you were watching this – what were the conflicting emotions? Did you begin with the premise “these guys are not telling the truth” to the point “I need to rethink this”. Has this been that kind of process for you?
Corey Feldman: I would never come out initially thinking that anybody is lying because obviously you cannot even open the door to watching it if you don’t come to it with an open-ended interpretation of what you are about to witness. So I would never go into something, assuming that they are lying. But that said, as I’m watching it, I’m going “this doesn’t make sense to me”, “this isn’t the guy that I knew”, but look, I am a guy that as a 14-year old was molested! Did that pedophile completely lie to me about who he was? I trusted him, I believed in him as a friend and I thought he was a good person, and then he molested me. It all proves that I am not the best judge, that’s why I shouldn’t be the judge in this situation, especially given the fact that I am so close to him.
Again, if he were my brother, my own flesh and blood, and all these accusations being said against him, I would not be able to judge it. I would have to stand back and look at all sides. And if my brother is guilty of something, then I am going to go against it, because what matters most is to preserve the innocence of children. Children must come first. We must do God’s work and protect our children on this planet – it is the most important thing, so I have to bring it back to please help me in my fight to abolish the statute of limitations in every state so that we can get victory and justice for all survivors of sexual abuse. And there is a lot of it. It is out there in a massive way. If you really start to recognize the amount of kids that have been abused in the system and ignored, it is staggering, so we’ve got to focus on making it better. We’ve got to get justice for all kids.
HLN Host: Corey Feldman, thank you for your thoughts and emotions as you go through this. Let me say that the Jackson Estate is suing the HBO over the documentary Leaving Neverland and I also want you to know that HBO and HLN share the same parent company Warner media. We’ll be right back.
You may have guessed that I perfectly understand Corey Feldman’s dual problem – protection of children is indeed the most important thing in the world and he hopes very much that the more people talk about child abuse the easier it will be to fight the problem.
However he is making the same mistake as in 1993 when he spoke of his own abuse to the Santa Barbara police hoping for their help – to only find that they didn’t give a damn about the genuine victim and were interested in Michael Jackson only.
And now he is falling into the same trap and the same illusion. HBO and HLN are absolutely not the right people to address his appeals to.
In his genuine passion to fight child abuse, in Hollywood in particular, Feldman talks about the staggering number of victims, but his HLN interviewer couldn’t care less – all he is interested is Safechuck and Robson and their film about Jackson, and this makes me afraid that when they make good use of Corey to support their two so-called “victims”, they will discard him as scrap and Corey’s hopes for his own documentary about pedophilia in Hollywood will be in shambles again.
The Hollywood predators will hardly ever allow a film exposing themselves, so over here Corey’s hopes are almost doomed – unless a miracle happens.
But there is one more point in Corey Feldman’s interview which is exceptionally important for understanding what Dan Reed’s film is all about.
You have probably noticed that for Corey Feldman as a survivor the most important part of their tales was the so-called “grooming” period which the film so convincingly portrayed.
Quotes:
“…they are talking about a cycle that’s called grooming and the grooming cycle, the grooming process certainly fits the mold”.
“Did that pedophile completely lie to me about who he was? I trusted him, I believed in him as a friend and I thought he was a good person, and then he molested me.”
This grooming process can be likened to a courtship between two adult people during which they grow to trust and love each other. And it seems that for pedophiles set on molesting their victims a similar kind of courtship is essential too – the predator first wins the trust of a child and then molests his victim as a “friend”. This is why Safechuck’s and Robson’s stories which seemed so convincing in this respect, were crucial for Corey to think that they “fit the mold”.
However Corey hasn’t read the documents, doesn’t know the timeline and didn’t compare it with what Dan Reed actually told his viewers.
And we have read the documents and that is why know one extremely important point. Here is this point:
THERE WAS NO GROOMING PERIOD.
NONE AT ALL.
The terrible thing I noticed in the seemingly innocent first part of the film is that Dan Reed deliberately changed the timeline and devoted the major part of those first 45 minutes to artificially construct the grooming period which in reality was never there.
This is the real reason why the first “innocent” part of the film is so long.
Its goal is to groom the viewers, yes, groom them into thinking that there was a long friendship between Michael Jackson and those families during which he got closer and closer to the boys and won their trust, only to betray it months later when the whole thing allegedly began.
However this is where the first big lie is.
In Robson’s case Michael Jackson didn’t see the family for two years before they came on their fist visit to the US, and it took Robson’s mother another week to get Michael’s phone number, after which they met him and were invited to Neverland the same day, where according to Robson’s complaint the alleged molestation took place on the second night (which as I hear, he later corrected into the first night and later into the first week).
And as to Safechuck the timeline the film presents is a different, visual kind of a fraud – Dan Reed first shows Safechuck happily dancing with Michael Jackson all over Europe and only then gives the aerial view of Paris by night and tells us that it is then that the molestation started.
However there was no “then”.
Safechuck’s complaint tells us that Paris was the first place where the family joined Michael Jackson on a tour, and this means that the alleged molestation came after months of not seeing Jackson and also on the very first day they joined him there.
For those of you who think that the absence of the grooming period is not that important, let me say that it is the basic element of their “friendship growing into love” story imposed on the public.
According to the film the alleged “sexual love” is the main reason why Robson and Safechuck supported Michael Jackson for so long – for them it wasn’t abuse, but “love” and this is why they “protected” him, and realized that “rape was abuse” only when their good therapists explained it to them … well, you remember all that bullshit.
They want us to regard their film as an example of a tender friendship between an adult and child developing into a “consensual love” which they saw to be the abuse only as grown-ups.
So the “friendship-turning-into-love” line is the whole foundation of their story, the fundamental element to it without which their careful construction of “love between an adult and a boy” will be something different – it will turn into a plain sexual assault, and this will deprive Robson and Safechuck of their main argument of a “loving relationship” in their wholly fake story.
Imagine yourself being sexually assaulted by a virtual stranger, say somewhere in the street or at a party in someone’s home, and ask yourself a question – will you happily dance around your abuser the next day and forever after, and declare that it was a tender friendship growing into love?
Whether you are an adult or a child your answer will be a flat NO.
Even if you terribly liked someone on television two years ago and he suddenly exposes himself to you or touches your genitals the very first time you see him in person, you won’t turn into his die-hard supporter for years ahead. Instead you will feel confused, scared, dirty and dismayed because someone who was your idol did to you something inexplicable, frightening and extremely disturbing…..
In short one of the keys to their big lie about Jackson is found in the lullyby first part of the film and its distorted timeline, which needs to be studied in much detail. The rest of it is just their free fantasy on the “love and grooming” theme introduced to the public at the very beginning of the film.
The timeline I am talking about will have to be analyzed in another post. In the meantime I suggest that you simply imagine that Safechuck is happily dancing and jumping around Michael Jackson after the alleged sexual assault and not before as Dan Reed makes you believe in his fake film.
Vindicating Michael 
Oh sorry that the link did not work Helena! Yes I read the other article. One good thing is that ‘The Sun’ and ‘The Mirror’ have started covering the falsities in ‘LN’. Hope Dan Reed and his crew is fully exposed before the public and the mainstream media now.
On Sun., 31 Mar. 2019, 10:28 pm Vindicating Michael, wrote:
> Vindicatemj (Helena) commented: “”I found this exciting excerpt from the > book : Screenshot from the book: âMaker of Dreams: Creating Michael > Jacksonâs Neverland Valley Parkâ by Robert E. âRobâ Swinson” -Suparna > Goswami Suparna, the link somehow doesn’t work, but thanks anyway. I’ve > also” >
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Suparna, the link somehow doesn’t work, but thanks anyway. I’ve also found some excerpts from this book online and included some pieces into the latest post about the 2nd half hour of “Leaving Neverland” fake.
Here is also an excellent read about Robson’s friend who lived in the same apartment with him for a year and a half when he moved to LA in his early 20s. Robson was quite open with his friend and always said only the best about Michael.
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Hi Helena
I found this exciting excerpt from the book : Screenshot from the book: “Maker of Dreams: Creating Michael Jackson’s Neverland Valley Park” by Robert E. “Rob” Swinson.We see how MJ was inspired to build ‘Neverland’ for children due to his ex girlfriend Tatum O’ Neal and how he had a genuine love of music, charity and children. Courtesy : https://books.google.com.au/books
On Sat., 30 Mar. 2019, 11:57 am Vindicating Michael, wrote:
> Jill commented: “Why is that monster following Paris and MJ accounts. Is > he ready to go to hell.” >
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Why is that monster following Paris and MJ accounts. Is he ready to go to hell.
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Something is seriously off with Reed. A guy tweeted a screenshot of Reed’s Twitter. Dan Desperation Creeper Reed is following Paris and the MJ accounts. https://twitter.com/SimonLomax73/status/1107817100192763905?s=19
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Here is a statement from the MJ Estate:
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Susanne, Stereo Williams’ Twitter page has been suspended.
Kelley Parker, the girl who was Michael’s child friend and played in his film “Moonwalker”, has been defending Michael a lot on Twitter. Her account is also suspended.
I hope that at least Dan Stephens will stay:
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Here is one more article meant to alert the public to the fact that pedophiles are on the march and it was also published just a month ago – on February 21, 2019 (!) Apparently, the anti-pedophilia activists have noticed some activity around this subject and therefore say, “It’s real and it’s here and it’s gaining strength.”
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Thanks Helena. Yes, propaganda of one kind was needed to stop the other kind.
On Mon., 18 Mar. 2019, 12:47 am Vindicating Michael, wrote:
> Vindicatemj (Helena) commented: “”You may be already aware The Russian > State television has refused to air ‘Leaving Neverland’ and so has > Gogglebox. Some positivity at last!” – Suparna Goswami Yes, Suparna, I’ve > read about it. I think the reason why Russian TV pulled the plug on this fi” >
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Besides the two links already mentioned to Suparna I’ve found one more article which shows that while the public is distracted by fantasy films about Michael Jackson, pedophiles and so-called “scientists” freely propagate their pro-pedophilia views in the media, including Thomas O’Carroll, a convicted pedophile who recently wrote the following in “Sexuality & Culture” December 2018, Volume 22, Issue 4, pp 1230–1262| :
On March 2nd 2019 one more interesting event took place – Thomas O’Carroll was invited to the House of Lords (!) and was thanked there for donating money to a children’s book charity (!)
And surprise-surprise, on March 3rd 2019 Thomas O’Carroll published a revised version of his pedophilia book about Michael Jackson.
The book again received glowing praise from a pedophilia apologist Professor James Kincaid and other so-called scientists:
I wrote about Professor Kincaid and his pro-pedophilia views in this post https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/victor-gutierrez-nambla-and-the-same-gang-of-professors-who-recommended-carl-toms-book/
Even judging by the dates alone there can’t be any doubt that from the start of it “Leaving Neverland” was meant to be part of a much wider campaign for normalizing pedophilia – at the expense of smearing the reputation of an innocent man.
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Yes, Suparna, I’ve read about it. I think the reason why Russian TV pulled the plug on this film is not because they consider Michael Jackson innocent or for reasons of journalistic integrity.
Being a huge and very sophisticated propaganda machine themselves they recognized in this film another type of propaganda – propaganda of pedophilia which is naturally a criminal offense here and no one would ever allow it on TV or anywhere. So as long as the press just writes about the film and does not describe the alleged offenses verbatim, it will be okay for our media to cover this subject, because portraying the poor Jackson as an example of western decaying morals may very well fall into their usual narrative.
But though our media will be ready to throw Michael Jackson under the bus like everyone else, I am still happy that they see through the plans of those who made the film and know it for what it really is – pedophilia propaganda and will not allow it to happen.
To show what Leaving Neverland really is just look up The Overton Window method which unfortunately works very well to destroy public morals: https://exploringyourmind.com/overton-window/
While we are fighting for the good name of Michael Jackson, pedophiles are well on the way to convince the public into accepting it. Some Americans realize what’s going on, but very few people understand how much damage this propaganda has already done:
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/60-second-summary-paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-to-light/
So regarding Russian TV this is just a case of one propagandist recognizing another propagandist in a way “it takes one to know one”. And though generally I am not a supporter, in this case I fully agree with them.
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Hi Helena
You may be already aware The Russian State television has refused to air ‘Leaving Neverland’ and so has Gogglebox. Some positivity at last!
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/russia-state-tv-wont-air-michael-jackson-doc-leaving-neverland-1195129?fbclid=IwAR1xgBgtjme9vFRQXX_Y-aAGxU8UsYcHfN7y_w07wURKC2tYZnStqxX9Ez4
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6815709/Gogglebox-refuses-controversial-Michael-Jackson-documentary-Leaving-Neverland.html
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This is a very good article by Stereo Williams asking a lot of good questions regarding this garbage film.
I want to repeat this part:
And to this I want to add that especially renowned newspapers like the Washington Post and the New York Times, who are claiming to be objective and fact-based, didn’t want to ask these questions and were not interested in any clarification and fact-finding and truth-seeking, and avoided asking valid questions like the plague. I am still asking: WHY???
Sorry to say, but these “objective papers” are losing a lot of integrity by this behavior among their readers now, and in the end those “fake news” shouters like a president Trump and his fans are given a powerful tool in their hands by the media themselves. They commit suicide, as Charles Thomson said it.
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Yes, Poly, it is interesting. Marie Rousseau is looking into Safechuck’s timeline presented in the film and the same described in the complaint – and certainly nothing adds up, just as I told you. Marie also provides excellent photos and rare videos of that time, so the real story of Safechuck can be even illustrated this way. The source is the site http://www.onmjfootsteps.com in French but with Google help it is quite readable.
It seems I also need to look at the real timeline to keep the promise.
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This is a must read from Stereo Williams:
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I can’t say how accurate it is, but you might find it interesting.
https://twitter.com/ml_roussea/status/1105761018498699264
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One more thought-provoking article:
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Probably the best answer to Robson has come from Aaron Carter who was also friends with Michael Jackson when he was a teenager. Very spontaneous and very angry. Strong language. Aaron says he has been offered 6 figures for an [anti-MJ] interview and he turned them all down and told them to go fuck themselves. You should see that video!
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And here is the latest from the BBC about Michael Jackson’s fans:
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Jolie, thank you for the link. Charles was at last given enough time to discuss not only the LN film but the media reaction to it. I’m tempted to make a transcript of it.
Taj Jackson is also awesome – with each new interview he gets more and more confident and eloquent. If Michael were here he would be very proud of Taj. And each of his interviews provides us with new information – for example, from the one on March 7th I learned why Michael put those chimes near his bedroom. Taj says he remembers the times when there were no chimes and Michael was complaining that people would eavesdrop on him – so that was the reason! I absolutely believe that this was indeed the case.
Taj Jackon’s another interview with John Ziegler is of a different kind. You don’t know who talks more there – Ziegler or Taj, but as a result it is their mutual critical analysis of Robson’s and Safechuck’s allegations. This one also needs a transcript. https://soundcloud.com/freespeechbroadcasting/2019-03-09-2-exclusive-interview-with-taj-jackson
Razorfist made one more video about the film – he speaks so fast that it’s difficult for me to understand him, but they say that he has done it again.
In short, so much information is pouring in from every direction that my analysis of the LN film will have to be postponed (sorry for that). There is simply no time to watch it. And things move so quickly that if I stay away for several days writing a post I’ll will find myself in the past century and will never catch up 🙂
Now I am thinking of making just another review. And wish the days were 48 hours and not 24.
And one more thing: this post has been updated with information about 1) Brandi’s interview with John Ziegler and 2) another interesting piece of news spotted by MJ fans – they’ve found that as soon as some of Robson/Safechuck’s lies become too obvious these pieces get cut out from the film. The version that was shown in the UK was shorter and didn’t contain the fragment where Taj Jackson found the whole Robson family lying on camera. The one he tweeted about:
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Hi Helena,
Charles Thomson just announced (March 10, 2019) on his Twitter @cethomson:
“Here is the full, 17-minute audio/video of my interview with @lynchinnz on @NewstalkZB a couple of hours ago”:
Just wanted to let you know. Thank you for all you do, Helena.
Love,
Jolie
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Jolie, thank you for the link to John Ziegler. By now I’ve listened to the first one only (with Brandi Jackson) here https://soundcloud.com/freespeechbroadcasting/2019-03-09-1-exclusive-interview-with-brandi-jackson
It is a very good interview that provides a context to that LN horror story. Some details of their conversation are a must to hear.
Some focal points:
– John Ziegler’s introduction to their conversation: approx. 2:40 – 9:00 of the interview
– VERY IMPORTANT When Brandi first spoke out she was contacted by “Good Morning, America” and “ABC” for an interview, but then both interviews were cancelled and the explanations given were “convoluted”. The explanations didn’t make any sense to Brandi: 12:15 – 14:30
– IMPORTANT Wade Robson had a crush on Brandi when making a commercial in 1991 and asked Michael to set them up together. Michael invited the Robsons family to Neverland together with Brandi and they all spent like 5-7 days there getting to know each other. At the end of their stay Wade asked her to be his girlfriend: 15:10 -17:00
– When both of them were 18 Wade started having affairs with other women. Brandi: “Are you sleeping with all these women?” Wade: “No, it is just a business relationship”. She says she began to wonder because his behavior became significantly different: 19:00 – 21:45
– The mutual contact who knew Brandi and Wade told her about his other affairs, she confronted him, he didn’t deny it and that was the end of their relationship 22:00 – 24:00
– Knowing of a profound effect sex with a male has on another male Brandi would have picked up on any indications of that, but she didn’t see anything. Wade is 100% heterosexual and is extremely confident with women. Egocentric, a kind a of narcissist: 24:45 -28:00
– VERY IMPORTANT. Brandi recalls Robson’s mother calling her when Michael died, after they hadn’t spoken for several years. She was crying and wanted Brandi to contact her with Michael’s children. She said Katherine Jackson was not fit to raise them and somewhat suggested herself as a replacement. Wade also called and Brandi felt like he was manipulating her: “I’ve missed you a lot. Did you miss me?” She felt that the Robsons wanted to “stay in” with the Jacksons family even after Michael’s death: 32:45 -36:00
– Wade’s career was on the downward spiral: 36:00 – 37:15
– Michael used to ask Brandi about Wade: “Is he treating your well?” “Is he opening the door for you?”. Brandi didn’t tell her uncle about Wade’s behavior but wishes that she had: 37:15 – 39:00
– Brandi: “Wade should be ashamed of himself”: 40:00 -41:30
– IMPORTANT. Brandi says that other people don’t know what Wade is capable of. She knows: 42:15
– VERY IMPORTANT. Watching the film and knowing Robson Brandi occasionally sees him trying not to laugh when he tells his story. For example, the story of him “standing on all four and his anus licked”. The look on Robson’s face tells her everything, though others may buy it: 43:00
– the underwear story. Robson never did his laundry himself, his mother did. There was never a single trace, otherwise she would have noticed: 44:00 – 47:00
– Joy Robson is doing an acting job too: 47:00 – 48:30
– Michael was so polite with Joy that she thought he was in love with her: 48:00
– John Z. “How can she happily speak about at in the beginning of the film if she knows in retrospect of a brutal 7-year long abuse of her son?” 49:00
– There is no PR machine behind the Jacksons. They didn’t even want to believe it was happening, only Brandi was concerned as she knows Wade: 52:30
– Brandi: “Wade is a liar. People should fact check and do research”: 53:10 – 54:10
– Brandi about Michael hanging out with boys: 54:15 – 57:15
– Wade would have become an extremely wealthy man and a hero if he had testified against Jackson in 2005. But he testified on his behalf. He asked MJ to let him get married at Neverland: 57:15 – 59:45
– John Ziegler’s postword. “I am not defending Michael Jackson but Brandi blows Wade’s story – beginning with 1:01:45
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My thankyou goes to everyone who supports the truth. In the Michael Jackson matter in the first place, but in everything else too.
Truth will save the world.
It is impossible for humans to know the truth in every sphere of life, so I see it as a connection between “truthers” in various spots here and there that will show the world the way it really is and not the illusion we have to live in and imposed on us.
In fact the whole thing reminds me very much of the Matrix movie. At least it suprises me a lot how its makers managed to grasp the essence of what is going on now or will happen in the near future. I mean the battle between lies and truth which we already see with our own eyes and are actually part of. Again, not only in the MJ matters but in everything else. Interesting times we live in.
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Thank you for all your hard work We need to EDUCATE the world with the truth .
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Greetings dear sweet Helena,
I have not posted in a very long time. But I was compelled to post about the following:
I just listen to two interviews by John Ziegler – posted on Mediaite – an online article dated March 9, 2019. Two SoundCloud interviews are embedded. The first interview is with Brandi Jackson. The second interview is with Taj Jackson. John Ziegler is a very good interviewer and has done his home work. Very good overview…attempts to give context, especially about Wade Robson’s “performance” in “Leaving Neverland”. I hope you all will share it. Really needs to go viral:
“Exclusive Interview: Michael Jackson’s Niece, Who Dated Leaving Neverland Star Wade Robson, Explains Why She’s Sure He’s Lying”
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/exclusive-interview-michael-jacksons-niece-who-dated-leaving-leaving-neverland-wade-robson-explains-why-shes-sure-hes-lying/
Love,
Jolie
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Thanks Helena. Yes we know who those people are and how they manipulate and control the media which in any case have always been against Michael. Otherwise these three men would not have had the courage to make a documentary without any evidence whatsoever. Wade knows that his case is too weak in the courts, and will be thrown out again and he has been desperate for money. He started a Robson family fund in Jan of this year and would have put his pay off money in it and no one will know about it.
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There’s a rumor that Weinstein, Geffen and Winfrey financed it all. I don’t know if there’s proof of it but it would explain an awful lot.
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Absolutely. And it seems that we even know who these powerful people are 🙂
I’ve read that the deadline for entering films into the festival program was November 2018, but they managed to do the last minute entry 1,5 months later almost on the eve of the festival opening. And decided that this new entry would open the festival changing all previous plans.
Very powerful people.
Leaving Neverland was added to the program on January 9th, 2019.
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Some very powerful people seem to have paid the Wade Robson and Jimmy Safechuck duo, and of course the director Dan Reed of ‘Leaving Neverland’, to steer away people’s attention from the actual sexual predators of Hollywood.
‘Leaving Neverland’ was a last minute entry to Sundance, and even though there were multiple screenings of the film on Harvey Weinstein’s sexual abuse, all eyes were on ‘Leaving Neverland’. What a strategic ploy!
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