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WHAT WE KNOW about Mark Quindoy’s Diary and Wade Robson. Part 3

November 16, 2019

If somebody tells you that he kept a diary when travelling to an exotic place, and when you start reading it you find that the the names and locations are all wrong, the dates are messed up and the museum described was closed in that particular season, you will suspect that the writer is pulling your leg and just fabricated the whole thing, probably never going on that trip at all.

The same with Mariano “Mark” Quindoy.

Mark Quindoy reads out from his diary, 1993

Quindoy claimed that he kept a diary since his first day of employment at Neverland, but it has so many inaccuracies in the dates, names and descriptions that at some point you start realizing that it is a fabrication.

Michael Jackson’s detractors will excuse Quindoy’s blunders by saying that “it was long ago and he simply misremembered it”, however this excuse cannot be applied to a diary which is kept then and there and if something worthy of attention happens in the morning you make a note of it in the evening. Or the next day. Or the same week at the very latest.

A diary cannot have any discrepancies and if not true to life in its every detail, it is actually an imitation based on outside sources and the author’s fantasy. It is either this or that,  with no shades of gray in between.

Therefore it is no use sorting through the mess of Mariano Quindoy’s diary trying to filter the “correct” facts from its lies and inaccuracies – if some pieces of his diary are messed up it means that the whole of it was fabricated.

WHAT THE ‘DIARY’ SAYS ABOUT SAFECHUCK

Mariano Quindoy’s diary has reached us in its several versions. First it was reported by the media as Quindoy presented it at his 1993 press conference in Manila. Then Quindoy’s ideas were stated in the prosecution “Prior Bad Acts” Motion of December 10, 2004. And then it was retold in several books (Diane Dimond’s is the example).

Let us go over Quindoy’s most striking statements that went into the Prosecution “Prior Bad Acts” Motion.

Look at this piece concerning Jimmy Safechuck, for example – in the first post about Quindoy this excerpt was already quoted, but now let’s focus on the dates:

They commenced their employment on May 25, 1989. The Quindoys’ job duties included welcoming guests and celebrities visiting the ranch, preparing the guest quarters, and responding to Jackson’s needs and those of his guests after-hours, when the day staff had gone home.

Immediately upon their employment, the Quindoys began to keep a personal diary of significant events at the ranch. On their second day of employment they learned about Jimmy Safechuck, a young boy who was a constant companion of Michael Jackson and who was spending nights with Jackson in his bedroom.

So at the end of May 1989 Safechuck supposedly visited Neverland, and we get the impression that when one month later Blanca Francia went on vacation, Safechuck was still there:

Approximately one month after the Quindoys began their employment, Blanca Francia, Michael Jackson’s personal maid, went on a month-long vacation to El Salvador. She was the only person allowed in Jackson’s private quarters, and in her absence, the Quindoys were assigned to clean the area.

Michael Jackson told the Quindoys that Jimmy Safechuck slept in the Shirley Temple room, a bedroom located upstairs but within Jackson’s private quarters. However the Quindoys found this not to be true. During the month that Mark and Ofelia cleaned Jackson’s private quarters, cleaning the Shirley Temple room was part of their responsibilities. They went there every day and observed that the bed was not slept in.”

It is absurd to believe that in the absence of his personal maid Michael Jackson could allow the near strangers to take care of his bedroom, especially if Jimmy Safechuck allegedly stayed there. But the same idea will sound less ridiculous if you learn that Michael was away at the time when the Quindoys had access to his room.

As a housekeeper Mark Quindoy had the keys to all rooms at Neverland and if Michael was away – even if they were not assigned to do any cleaning in his bedroom – they could easily go there out of curiosity or other reasons, to inspect it and rummage through his belongings as much as they wanted to.

According to Quindoy their period of “cleaning” Michael’s bedroom started a month after they began their employment and lasted for another month, which takes us to the end of June – end of July 1989.

So the question is – was Michael Jackson at Neverland in June-July 1989 or he wasn’t?

Mike Smallcombe, MJ’s biographer, interviewed the musicians who worked with Michael Jackson on his albums, and they say that exactly in June 1989 Michael started working on an album of his earlier hits called “Decade” which was supposed to have only a handful of new songs. But Michael had too many new ideas, so eventually he gave up the idea of “Decade” and turned it into a wholly new “Dangerous” album. The work took 18 months on and off, but when it began in June 1989 it was quite intense – first they had two recording studios in LA, then the team worked in three rooms at Westlake studio.

And since it was too time-consuming to drive 100 miles from Los Angeles to Neverland every day, Michael stayed the nights in his city condo.

Matt Forger, MJ’s collaborator and friend said to Mike Smallcombe:

Q. Dangerous [ ] started out life as a greatest hits album. How did that begin for you?

A: In June 1989, I began working with Michael at Westlake Studio C on a few new songs for that greatest hits album.”

Q: Where was Michael was staying when he was recording in L.A at that time?

A: He had a condo, where I don’t know. He would – he would refer to going to the condo. That’s all I know.

Matt Forger and Michael Jackson

Mike Smallcombe adds to it:

In the summer of 1989, after a few months of rest at Neverland, Michael returned to the studio to begin recording new material for Decade. With the ranch over 100 miles away, Michael would mostly stay at his secret three-storey condominium in Century City – which he called the ‘Hideout’ – whenever he was working in Los Angeles.

Inspired by seeing the world, Michael had been writing songs while spending time at his ranch after the Bad Tour. Forger said Michael returned from his tour with certain impressions. “His social commentary kicked up a notch or two,” he said. “Most of the early songs we worked on were more socially conscious. His consciousness of the planet was much more to the forefront.” The most prominent of these were later titled ‘They Don’t Care About Us’ and ‘Earth Song’.

Michael and Forger began working on these tracks in Westlake’s Studio C on Santa Monica Boulevard in June 1989. While Forger was based at Westlake, Bottrell worked over at Ocean Way Recording, a short distance across Hollywood on Sunset Boulevard.[ ] In July 1989, Bottrell brought in keyboardist Brad Buxer to join the team. As soon as Bottrell moved to Westlake, he and Buxer began working with Michael on a song called ‘Black or White’, which Michael wrote in early 1989 in his ‘Giving Tree’ overlooking the lake at Neverland. Bottrell was also asked to work on an idea Michael had previously started with Matt Forger, an environmental protest track which eventually became ‘Earth Song’ [] In the fall of 1989, Michael and his team began working on another environmental awareness anthem, ‘Heal the World’, which was originally called ‘Feed the World’. After a few months of work at Westlake, producer/songwriter Bryan Loren, who was only 23 at the time, joined the team and worked in a third room at the studio. It was after songs such as ‘Black or White’ and ‘Heal the World’ were developed when Michael began entertaining the idea of recording a full album of new material, rather than a greatest hits package with only a handful of new songs.”

So the summer of 1989 was a very busy time for Michael Jackson. After spending several months at Neverland following the “Bad” tour and writing new songs on his Giving Tree, in June 1989 Michael finally went to Los Angeles to record them, and not to lose time on driving back and forth he stayed in LA in his Hideout condo there.

Now the reason why Blanca Francia had a month-long vacation at that very time also becomes clear – Michael was leaving the ranch anyway and his personal maid had nothing to do there, so she went on a long visit to her El-Salvador homeland.

And while Michael was away no one stayed in his bedroom, so when the Quindoys allege that they went to Michael’s private quarters every day and found that the bed in Shirley Temple room “was not slept in,” their statement is actually … true. That bed or any other bed in Michael’s room was indeed not slept in, simply because neither Michael, nor anyone else was there.

‘Shirley Temple” bedroom in MJ’s two-storey private quarters

The Quindoys’ formally true statement turns into a big lie only when placed in the context of Jimmy Safechuck’s implied stay at Neverland during that period. In fact this is how all of us understood it, because Quindoy’s wording suggested it and it was in this capacity that it was used in the Prosecution Motion.

To suggest it even further Quindoy said that on June 25, 1989 he and his wife saw Safechuck’s underwear on the floor next to MJ’s bed:

“On at least two occasions, and possibly more, both Quindoys saw Jimmy Safechuck’s underwear lying on the floor next to Jackson’s bed. (The two occasions noted in their diary are June 25, 1989 and May 5, 1990). They know the underwear belonged to Jimmy and not Jackson, because the underwear was very small; smaller than Jackson’s underwear which they had seen and knew to be Jockey brand and white. Also, no other young boy was on the ranch and sleeping with Jackson at the time of these observations.”

But the date of June 25, 1989 is impossible. At that time Michael Jackson was already in LA, and if we are to believe Quindoy’s story we’ll also have to believe that as soon as Blanca Francia left, Michael Jackson immediately invited Jimmy Safechuck to Neverland to reveal all his “secrets” to near strangers like the Quindoys – not to mention the fact that such recklessness goes counter to Safechuck’s own allegations that MJ was top cautious in everything he allegedly did.

So when you have a closer look, you realize that the story is a pure insult to human intellect and usual common sense.

Actually I don’t rule out that while inspecting every speck of dust under the cover of “cleaning” Michael’s bedroom, the Quindoys could indeed find some youngster’s clothes left in the closet or laundry bag – so what of it? As to the fact that in Michael’s absence they went through his belongings with a fine-tooth comb I have no doubt whatsoever.

For the next scene concerning Safechuck which Mark Quindoy allegedly observed near the pool, please go to the first post again, while we will proceed to another excerpt from Quindoy’s statement involving Wade Robson this time.

THE ‘DIARY’ ABOUT ROBSON

According to the “Prior Bad Acts” Motion,

“Mr. Quindoy described another incident that occurred on Saturday, February 3, 1990, involving Wade Robson. Mr. Quindoy said that Wade Robson came to visit Jackson at the ranch.”

The Robsons’ arrival indeed occurred on Saturday February 3, 1990. The family managed to contact Michael Jackson only eight days after Wade Robson’s performance in Disneyland where he danced as part of the Australian Young Talent dance school that came to the US to celebrate the Day of Australia there. The date of celebration was January 26, 1990.

For those who missed it here is a short reminder of the reason for the eight-day delay. Since the time Joy and Wade Robson first met MJ at a dance contest in Australia in 1987 they had no contact with Michael Jackson. Joy Robson says they wrote him “three or four letters” but Michael didn’t receive them.  So when they came to the US equipped with video tapes of Robson’s dance they tried this and that to contact him, but managed to meet Michael only with the help of Norma Staikos and only 8 days later.

And now Robson accuses Norma Staikos of setting up that meeting.

“Wade Robson was accompanied by Joy Robson, his mother, Dennis Robson, his father, Chantel, his sister, and his grandparents, Hughes and Jen Collin.”

Whether these names are correct or not the fact that Quindoy knew them should not disturb anyone– there was a special log at Neverland with visitors’ names noted there and meeting Michael’s guests was Quindoy’s direct duty.

“The adult visitors arrived in a limousine. Jackson, Wade and Chantel arrived in a separate vehicle.”

Oh, this finally explains why Robson is claiming in Dan Reed’s film that he and Chantal arrived at Neverland in a separate car. Before he started his allegations his memory had no recollection of even the most basic facts of their visit to Neverland, so he had to send emails to ask his mother, but after reading Quindoy’s statement he suddenly recalled even this tiny point about arriving in a separate car and elaborated on it in Reed’s film in great and unnecessary detail.

So while he claimed that his memory “evolved” as a result of some insight oriented therapy, the plain truth is that he simply took this and possibly other ideas from Quindoy’s statement.

“The Robsons told Quindoy they met Jackson in Australia and Jackson invited them to the ranch. From the first night on, young Wade stayed with Jackson in his bedroom and the other guests stayed in the guest cottages. Wade and his family stayed at the ranch approximately a week.

The fact that Wade stayed in Michael’s room is not disputed by anyone, however Quindoy forgot to mention that Wade’s sister was there too.

But his last point – about Wade and the family staying at the ranch approximately a week – is a real bombshell.

What we see here is the third version of the family’s stay at Neverland in February 1990. Robson says that he was left alone at Neverland while his family went to the Grand Canyon, and his mother testified under oath on three different occasions, with a regularity of every 12 years, that all of them went away and returned only the next weekend.

And now Quindoy is telling us that no one went away and the whole family stayed at Neverland for a week!

At this point we realize in its full entirety that Mark Quindoy never kept any diary at all.

We even wish that he had, because if he had really kept it, now it would be an enormous help as we could get first-hand information about who left when, and which of the Robsons is lying – Wade Robson or his mother.

But instead of a clear-cut statement all we have are some vague recollections of Mr. Quindoy that “Wade and his family stayed approximately a week.”

However on second thought we begin realizing that Quindoy may not be even that wrong, because if we add up the two weekends it will indeed make approximately a week, coinciding with the impression Quindoy had of their stay.

And then it suddenly dawns on us how extremely helpful Quindoy’s recollection is for establishing the truth and getting undeniable proof that Wade Robson did not stay alone at the ranch and left with his family.

Actually, if I were a Wade Robson supporter, I would be furious with the Quindoys.

Why?

And how could Quindoy not notice that between the two weekends the 7-year old boy was left all alone at Neverland?

How could this bastard Quindoy not leave a single word about it in his diary?

And where was his wife Faye who cooked meals at Neverland? Why didn’t she notice that the boy was staying on his own? Wasn’t she supposed to see him having meals there three times a day?

Indeed, how could the Quindoys NOT document any of it in their diary???

They should have left a three-page account of every day the poor seven-year old spent at Neverland alone with Jackson, but instead they left nothing?!

And where was Michael’s personal maid Blanca Francia, by the way? Her holiday had been long over, so why didn’t she notice poor Wade staying in Michael’s room on every single day and night during that week?  She testified on numerous occasions, made all possible and impossible statements, but never said a word about that episode!

And where were Orieta Murdock, MJ’s assistant and Charlie Michaels, a guard at Neverland who happened to work there at the same time as Franca and Quindoy, who didn’t notice either that the small boy was left at Neverland all alone by his heartless family?

And why didn’t all these respectable people say a single word about it in their statements to DA Tom Sneddon which later turned into the “Prior Bad Acts” Motion against Jackson?

I know I sound like Janet Arvizo with all these where-were-they questions, but you will agree that for Wade Robson this mass amnesia of people who were supposed to be direct witnesses of what he says now is a complete outrage!

And for us it is an eye-opening experience, and also a lesson that we should stop paying attention to what all these people said and start paying attention to what they did not say.

Leaving Robson’s supporters to fume over the glaring omission of his lone stay there, let us go back to Quindoy and read his other statements regarding Robson.

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Quindoy claims that he remembers a certain incident on February 9, 1990 when he allegedly drove Michael Jackson and Wade Robson to a nearby city where they went on a shopping spree.

February 9th was Friday and since the whole Robson family had been away for a week I am almost ready to believe that they came back for their second weekend at Neverland not on Saturday but on Friday.

This is what the “Prior Bad Acts” Motion says about Quindoy’s observations during that trip.

“Shortly after 6:00 p.m., on February 9, 1990, Mr. Quindoy drove Jackson and Wade Robson to Santa Barbara in what he described as Jackson’s “Chevy ‘Jimmy’ Blazer.” Jackson and Wade Robson rode in the back seat while Quindoy drove. They arrived in Santa Barbara at approximately 7:00 p.m. and went on a shopping spree at Circuit City and K-B Toy Store in La Cumbre Plaza.”

On the drive back to Neverland, Mr. Quindoy glanced in the rearview mirror and was astonished to see Michael Jackson with his arms around young Robson, kissing him passionately on his face and neck. Mr. Quindoy said it was just like a boy kisses a girl in the backseat, except that in this case the other party was also a young male, and he was not responding. Wade was wearing shorts and Jackson’s hand was traveling up one thigh to the other, around Wade Robson’s genitalia area. During this time, Wade was playing with his toys and was noticeably unresponsive to Jackson’s fondling.”

I have duly checked up the locations and names of the shops mentioned, and found that they did indeed exist in Santa Barbara (later they closed), so this part is impeccable.

La Cumbre Plaza in Santa Barbara

K-B toys (now closed)

Circuit City was the nation’s second largest retailer in consumer electronics

However the wrong detail in Quindoy’s statement is the city they allegedly visited.

The problem is that at his 1993 press-conference Mr. Quindoy spoke of a small neighboring town of Solvang, and unfortunately for Quindoy no such shopping malls ever existed in Solvang as its population is barely 5300 people.

Here is what Quindoy said in 1993 the way it is relayed to us by Christopher Andersen in his “Michael Jackson: Unauthorized” book, published a year later:

“In exhaustive accounts later given to Los Angeles police investigators—accounts backed up by prodigiously detailed diaries kept by both himself and his wife—Mark Quindoy claimed to have seen Michael molest several of his special friends. [ ] Michael often took his little friends on short excursions up to Solvang, and one day he asked Quindoy if he would drive him and his seven-year-old friend there in the four-wheel-drive Chevrolet Blazer. At Solvang Michael took the boy to see a huge dollhouse that he was thinking of duplicating at the ranch.[ ]The seven-year-old stayed for three weeks, and no sooner did he leave with his mother on vacation than a nine-year-old took his place. According to the Quindoy’s diaries, this boy spent up to nineteen days at a time at the ranch. More than once” [1994]

“Diane Dimond also refers to Sovang in her 2005 book:

“During another instance, Quindoy said, Michael Jackson asked him to drive him and a seven-year-old companion into the neighboring town of Solvang. The trip was so Jackson could see a huge dollhouse that he was thinking of duplicating at the ranch. Driving back to Neverland at dusk, Quindoy said he caught sight of a shocking scene in the backseat of the Chevrolet Blazer. His employer was acting “like a lover,” kissing the boy passionately. []  …with the headlights of passing cars illuminating the inside of the vehicle, he saw Michael begin to kiss the youngster everywhere – his neck, head, arms, shoulders, and body. “I was utterly stunned – appalled that he could do that to a seven-year-old boy.”

So Andersen and Dimond say that Quindoy named Solvang at his press conference, and Tom Sneddon says that it was Santa Barbara.

What can explain this miraculous change in the name of the town stated in the official prosecution paper?

Version 1 is that the prosecutors studied Quindoy’s diary and corrected it in their Motion after finding that there were no significant toy and electronic shops in Sovang.

Version 2 is that Quindoy himself realized his mistake and approached the investigators with an updated variant complete with the names of the shops to add a tinge of authenticity to his fabricated story.

In other words this part of Quindoy’s diary is also a mess, however numerous well-wishers tried to fix it.

Diane Dimond, for example, struggled to explain how Quindoy could see all those horrible things despite the “dusk” and said that the “the headlights of passing cars were illuminating the inside of the vehicle”.

1990-chevrolet-blazer (2)

1990 Chevrolet Blazer has dark tinted windows in the backseat

In contrast to her Tom Sneddon did not even bother to explain how the hand “around the boy’s genitalia area” could be seen in the rearview mirror which shows the faces of people in the backseat and not their lower torso.

The matter of visibility in the “dusk” was obviously a problem, and this is probably why Quindoy claimed that they set out on a trip at a relatively early hour, at 6 p.m. and arrived in their “Santa Barbara” an hour later.

But all of them forgot that for fear of being mobbed Michael Jackson usually went shopping after the shopping hours, and this is why the idea that they arrived at the shopping mall on Friday and at its most crowded hour of 7 p.m. sounds like black humor to us.

We can also wonder why no paparazzi noticed their visit and why we don’t have any media reports about MJ being mobbed there. And where were the bodyguards? Or does Mariano “Mark” Quindoy want us to believe that Michael went shopping in the rush hour without any bodyguards? Or was MJ in so heavy disguise that no one recognized him, but then how was all that “kissing” possible?

And what about “the shorts” the little boy was wearing? The Historical Weather Data site says that on February 9, 1990 the temperature in Santa Barbara was +8 C, but here I am in doubt – probably Australian boys are used to wearing shorts in this kind of weather?

The temperature in Santa Barbara on February 9, 1990 evening was +8 Centigrade

The final piece from Quindoy stated in the Prosecution Motion is as follows:

“On another occasion, the Quindoys stated that the same boy, who was about age nine, spent up to 19 days at a time at Neverland, every night of which he slept in Jackson’s bedroom. Mr. Quindoy said the boy and Michael never left each other’s side during the youngster’s stay.

… On many occasions Mr. and Mrs. Quindoy each observed Jackson to be hugging, kissing and having physical contact with both Safechuck and Wade Robson, in a manner the Quindoys felt was inappropriate. The Quindoys terminated their employment on August 30, 1990.”

The “same boy” is actually Wade Robson, only now the scene described takes place two years later as he is already “about age nine”.

Excerpt from the Prosecution “Prior Bad Acts’ Motion, Dec.10, 2004

We have no reason to disbelieve Tom Sneddon that Quindoy was referring to Robson in this episode – the prosecutors had a team of investigators at their disposal and they should know. So if the episode is really about Robson, the only time it was physically possible was when Robson and his mother and sister arrived in the US on a permanent stay in September 1991, when he was indeed about age nine.

However the Quindoys left their job a year earlier, in August 1990, so this point in Quindoy’s diary is misplaced by a whole year and they couldn’t see any of it for purely technical reasons.

If we play the devil’s advocate and replace Robson with the nine-year old Safechuck in the same episode, the picture will become more realistic, but then a question arises – what kind of a diary is it if all the names, dates and locations there are wrong and there isn’t a single correct point in it? Not a single one!

There can’t be any doubt now that the Quindoys’ diary is a fabrication. It is a made up story written years later on the basis of their memories and most probably with the help of the ideas suggested to Quindoy by his collaborator Victor Gutierrez.

And remember that as his story grew more and more horrid the price for it also escalated – from the initial $283,000 to $20 million (see post 2 for details).

But despite Mariano “Mark” Quindoy telling obvious lies about Jackson, we should be very grateful to him for the legacy he left to future generations. Due to his so-called diary Quindoy revealed that the two of them had been constantly spying on Jackson, followed his every step and therefore would have never overlooked a small 7-year old boy left at Neverland alone with the horrible Jackson. If that stay had been true Quinodoy would have turned it into the centre point of his allegations against Michael, describing to us in much detail the days and nights the “couple” spent there.

However he described nothing of the kind and never even mentioned it, same as all other employees at Neverland who happened to work with the Quindoys right at that time – Blanca Francia, Orieta Murdock and Charlie Michaels to name only a few.

NONE OF THEM noticed the small boy  staying alone at Neverland and none left a single word about it in their statements to the prosecutors which later formed the basis of the “Prior Bad Acts” Motion against Jackson.

And if no one noticed it means that Robson was not there and has told us a terrible lie in the “Leaving Neverland” film.

Remember his ravishing descriptions of “sex” that allegedly began immediately after his parents left him?

Now you can rest assured that it never happened.

WADE ROBSON EXPLAINS IT ALL

It’s funny that it was also Wade Robson who explained to us why Michael Jackson didn’t realize that having children in his bedroom is not an accepted social norm.

Only the man who said it was the Robson of an earlier format – the one who still insisted on Michael’s complete innocence wherever he went.

The opinion of that Wade Robson was voiced in November 2003 when the trial was still far off and no one forced him to tell the public that he used to sleep in Michael’s bedroom. He said it of his own free will and gave his own explanation why Michael didn’t see anything wrong about it.

November 26, 2003

Aussie Star Tells of Sharing Jackson’s Bed

AUSTRALIAN Wade Robson is one of the hottest young talents in Hollywood and yesterday he revealed he had as a child shared a bed with Michael Jackson.

Brisbane-born Robson, who has a hit TV show in the US and a three-movie directing deal with Disney, broke his silence about the years he spent visiting Jackson at Neverland Ranch in California.

He is now 21 and shadowed by his friendship with the superstar, which began at age five. But Robson says it was an innocent relationship that never involved any sort of abuse.

“I never had that experience and I hope that it never happened to anybody else,” he said.

Robson yesterday said he also visited the sprawling Neverland Ranch north of Los Angeles after his family moved to the US with the encouragement of Jackson.

Robson met the entertainer in 1987 after winning a Jackson dance-impersonation contest and was then invited to perform with Jacko at his Brisbane concert.

In 1991, Robson, his mother, Joy, and his sister Chantelle moved to LA and he was almost immediately cast in three of Jackson’s videos — including Black or White.

He was later signed to Jackson’s private label as half of a short-lived rap duo, Quo.

Over the years, Robson said, Jackson bought him instruments and encouraged him in their friendship, which, according to the 187cm rising star, was always “creatively based”.

“His initial interest in me was because of my dancing. He saw the talent and the spark I had inside me and all he has ever wanted to do is just help my career,” he said.

Asked if he had ever slept in Jackson’s bed, Robson said: “Yeah, but nothing strange happened.”

Robson said he didn’t think it was “weird” that a grown man would share the same bed as a child.

“Everything in life is so complex. He just wanted something around that was simple — to hang with kids,” he said.

“The biggest thing you have to understand is that he has no concept of reality.

“He has been a superstar since he was five years old.

“I mean, what concept does he have of what society thinks is right?”

Robson said he no longer saw Jackson as often as he did as a child — maybe I will talk to him every six months — but he would always remain a friend.

“I will always support him and whatever happens is supposed to happen — I hope it works out for him,” he said.

“It is sad to see.”

Robson, a choreographer and songwriter for Britney Spears and ‘N Sync, has just scored the second highest rating show on MTV with the live dance contest The Wade Robson Project.

He has also been signed to direct three films for Disney, the first a musical, which is scheduled to begin shooting next year.

Hobart Mercury (Australia) – MICHAEL McKENNA

http://mjjr.net/robson/#s20031126 [link now defunct]

Let me repeat Robson’s opinion:

“The biggest thing you have to understand is that he has no concept of reality.

“He has been a superstar since he was five years old.

“I mean, what concept does he have of what society thinks is right?”

[Wade Robson]

Mind you that the above is not a statement of a coerced person.

These are Wade Robson’s own words as he looked at Michael Jackson from aside and saw the problem Michael did not realize himself and therefore couldn’t impose on anyone.

Robson was clever enough to notice that Michael’s life-long isolation from the outside world gave him no concept of reality. As a result he didn’t know the accepted standards of behavior and that what was a norm in the packed bedroom of their house in Gary is not what society thinks is right.

Michael couldn’t understand why what was good for him as a child is no good for others, and why such sleepovers are supposed to be something shameful and are never to be spoken of. Actually the very fact that he freely spoke about them shows the difference between him and all the rest of us.

His open ways made him extremely vulnerable to the allegations. People like Mariano “Mark” Quindoy saw their opportunity for extortion here and took advantage of the easy target Michael Jackson really was.

And now Robson and Safechuck are taking advantage of the same opportunity.

No wonder Robson wrote in his manuscript, “It’s time to have mine!”

9 Comments leave one →
  1. Poly permalink
    November 16, 2019 9:43 pm

    Robson and Safechuck’s lack of compassion for MJ’s kids tells me a lot about them.

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  2. November 17, 2019 10:03 am

    Nice notice, that it was +8 C when Wade supposedly wore shorts! I checked the temperature on August 12, 1989 at 9 pm, when Jimmy and Michael were supposedly standing in jaccusi – it was +15 C, not exactly a comfortable temperature to be standing still while your body is wet. Btw, was the water in that jaccusi warmed up? If it were, you would think anyone who wants to feel up anyone, would do it in a comfort of warm water, not standing in it so that your employees see you. Ridiculous.
    Also, Quindoy said that MJ telling them he and Jimmy will be in a jaccusi, was like a signal for employees to not go near there: 1) why then Quindoy went near there? I would be quite logical for him to say he when there to spy on MJ, but no, he simply went there to see if the windows are closed… 2) how would Quindoy know “it was a signal”, if he never mentions any previous events that would tell employees about “the signal”? Again, absolutely ridiculous.

    It is SO telling, that all “victims”, who were ever mentioned by the “disgrunted employees”, were the exact same boys Gutierrez fantasized about. It would be great to have an article showing how many other kids were around MJ at that time, and showing that all “victims” ever emerged only from VG’s head. It was not the case that emloyees had their suspicions about those exact kids (Spence, Barnes, Culkin, Francia, Chandler, Wade and Jimmy), and told VG about their suspicions. It was other way around, and it can be proven. For example. Quindoys not only didn’t see 9-y.o. Wade Robson in NL, Quindoys could not even possibly KNOW at the time of their press-conf, that 9-y.o. Wade returned to NL! At the time Quindoys could only know first-hand, that Robsons from Australia visited NL in Feb, 1990, and then again they visited in May-June 1990 and left. Quindoys left NL in August 1990. They could not possibly know that Robsons moved to USA in 1991.
    I believe, in 1992, after Pellicano found Gutierrez and mentioned Quindoys, VG contacted Quindoys and that is when VG told them about 9-y.o. Wade spending time in NL.

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  3. November 17, 2019 10:39 am

    I mean, Quindoys mentioned 6-month working period in their TV interview on July 24, 1992.
    After Chandlers allegations hit, they tell to police about seeing 9-y.o. Wade in NL, also they tell to police they left NL in August 1990. The police officers probably noticed the discrepancy, and I guess this is why in Quindoys TV interview on January 17, 1994 their working period suddenly became 2 years.

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  4. November 17, 2019 11:31 am

    “Quindoys left NL in August 1990. They could not possibly know that Robsons moved to USA in 1991.” – Мария

    Exactly. Diane Dimond, the media and other Michael’s detractors must have also noticed this descrepancy, but instead of dismissing Quindoy as a liar simply extended the period of Quindoy’s work at Neverland to 1991 and even 1992 – all the time knowing that this was not the case.
    All of it points to a frame-up of Michael Jackson, done on an exceptionally big scale.

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  5. November 17, 2019 11:36 am

    “I guess this is why in Quindoys TV interview on January 17, 1994 their working period suddenly became 2 years.”- Мария

    Oh, I see that you came to the same conclusion as I did!
    These changes in the timeline only seem to be insignificant. But in reality there is always a big reason for them. The devil is always in the detail.

    When people lie big time they hope that no one will notice the details which don’t fit their story and can give away the truth. And usually it works because people are so shocked and appalled that they don’t even try to look any further. They feel aversion to the mere thought of a crime and this is exactly what the liars count upon. In fact it is a universal method used in every sort of propaganda – if you tell a lie, make it big.

    Remember Wade Robson describing his “abuse” during the week when he allegedly stayed alone at Neverland? In “Leaving Neverland” he looked as if he almost relished it! One scene after another, described in most horrid detail which made people really sick… and now we realize that NOT A SINGLE EMPLOYEE who worked at Neverland at the time saw him there!

    Mark and Faye Quindoy, Blanca Francia, Orieta Murdock, Charlie Michaels to name only a few, and all these people were not Michael Jackson’s friends but his foes. Some of them would have probably been ready to lie about it, but at that time they didn’t know that there was a need to.

    Update:

    The post has been updated to emphasize the idea how important it is that none of Neverland employees saw Robson when he says he was there. I also shortened it a bit.

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  6. luv4hutch permalink
    November 17, 2019 8:55 pm

    So you plan to actually make a post about Michael’s actions compared to “what society says and expects as appropriate behavior?” That should be an interesting one.

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  7. November 18, 2019 4:01 am

    “So you plan to actually make a post about Michael’s actions compared to “what society says and expects as appropriate behavior?” – luv4hutch

    Of course I do. I regard it as the only problem worth discussing about Michael. Though I doubt that it is possible to understand how different he was and why.

    To really understand we need to have worked since pre-school age, been raised in the same way, have the same strong Jehovah Witness views, never celebrate Christmas and birthdays, be adored by millions and be lonely like no other, be constantly at the media gun point and pursued by paparazzi, have the need to isolate ourselves from the world to enjoy a little privacy, suffer from vitiligo, discoid lupus and a burn, have skin-stretching operations on our head and be in constant pain, communicate with people mostly by phone sitting in a hotel room and have little chance to leave it, and work, work and work.

    Reliving Michael’s life is impossible for us, so all we can do is only try to imagine what it was like to be him. But even that could be done only when he is cleared of all suspicion and we are left with the only one remaining question – Since he was innocent, why didn’t he behave the way society expected him to? But even then it will be difficult to answer because to understand another person’s feelings we need to have these feelings ourselves.

    But before we reach that point there are still a lot of lies about Jackson to clear. The process of understanding can begin only then.
    I’ve been there, so I know.

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  8. November 19, 2019 2:34 pm

    Today I’ve learned that Robson’s and Safechuck’s lawsuits are likely to be restored due to the California law amended just in the right time.
    Of course it will enable the two liars to stay “relevant” for years ahead. But on the other hand it may be a blessing in disguise too.
    So I’d rather welcome the change, especially if it helps the real victims of child sexual abuse.

    Here is the information which in all mainstream media is accompanied by two huge photos of Robson and Safechuck with a “top honest” look on their faces.
    The way the media promotes these two liars is disgusting.

    Lawsuits by Michael Jackson accusers likely to be restored

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — A California appeals court appeared strongly inclined Monday to give new life to lawsuits filed by two men who accuse Michael Jackson of repeatedly molesting them when they were boys.

    Three judges from the 2nd District Court of Appeal said in a tentative ruling that lawsuits from James Safechuck and Wade Robson against two corporate entities that Jackson owned should be reconsidered by the trial court that dismissed them in 2017.

    Robson, 37, and Safechuck, 41, who became known to a broad audience when they aired their accusations earlier this year in the Emmy-winning HBO documentary “Leaving Neverland,” sat together in a downtown Los Angeles courtroom during Monday’s brief hearing.

    Outside, their attorney Vince Finaldi said the decision was the right one, and they are pleased.

    “All they’ve ever wanted is their day in court,” Finaldi said.

    The suits filed in 2013 that were dismissed because statutes of limitations had expired can be revived because of new state law signed last month by Gov. Gavin Newsom that gives those who say they were sexually abused until age 40, up from age 26, to file lawsuits. It also gives victims of all ages a three-year window to sue, starting Jan. 1.

    The Associated Press does not typically name victims of sexual abuse, but Robson and Safechuck have repeatedly come forward and approved of the use of their names and faces.

    The tentative decision does not revive the actual Jackson estate as a defendant. A 2015 decision throwing out that part of the lawsuit will stand. The remaining defendants are the two corporate entities, MJJ Productions, Inc., and MJJ Ventures, Inc.

    Attorneys for Jackson’s estate accepted that the cases must be returned to the trial court under the new legislation, but emphasized that the ruling is unrelated to the allegations they have long denounced as demonstrably false.

    “This new law extends the time for genuine victims of abuse to file legal claims,” Jackson estate attorney Howard L. Weitzman said in a statement. “The appellate court’s tentative ruling is not on the merits of Robson and Safechuck’s allegations and the court in no way said that these cases will go to trial. Neither does it reverse the 2015 rulings dismissing Robson and Safechuck’s claims against the estate, which are final and no longer subject to any appeals. We are confident that the claims against Michael Jackson’s corporate entities will, once again, be dismissed as has happened before.”

    Robson testified in Jackson’s 2005 criminal trial, in which the singer was acquitted, that Jackson had never molested or mistreated him, and Safechuck once said the same to authorities investigation Jackson, who died in 2009.

    The men and their attorneys have said that stress and trauma that persisted into adulthood finally led them to accept that they had been sexually abused and go public.

    Jackson’s estate is suing HBO over “Leaving Neverland,” in which Robson and Safechuck gave director Dan Reed graphic accounts of what they said were hundreds of instances of sexual abuse by Jackson over several years. A federal judge has ruled that case should be handled in private arbitration

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