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October 20, 2012

Two days after Michael Jackson’s death, on June 27, 2009  Marcelo Morales Navarro from Chile wrote an Open Letter to Victor Gutierrez, the author of a pedophiliac book of lies about MJ called “Michael Jackson Was My Lover – The Secret Diary of Jordan Chandler”.

The title sounds sensational, however the problem is that the boy never had a diary and all we see in the opus is the author’s own fantasy of conversations and fictional activities between a adult and a boy which in reality never took place (at least between MJ and Chandler).

Jordan Chandler NEVER kept a diary, so all activity described in the book is the invention of Victor Gutierrez’s sick mind (or a glimpse at his own experience?)

The fact that the diary was non-existent and consequently Gutierrez invented most of the story was confirmed by the boy’s uncle Ray Chandler who was not above slandering Michael Jackson himself, but even he at some stage grew so resentful of Victor Gutierrez that called him a “sleazebag”:

  •  Ray Chandler said he did not endorse that book. “Victor Gutierrez is a sleazebag,” he said.

Marcelo Morales, author of the Open Letter has similar words to describe Gutierrez with, however his letter was in Spanish and its computer translation did not reflect all the nuances of the text, so the letter had to be put aside and wait for its hour for more than three years.

This hour came when our reader [the Internet name is Aldebaranredstar] made a generous present to this blog and volunteered to translate the letter into English. Now that we’ve read it  in perfect English we see that the letter is absolutely brilliant. This is why I am making a special post for it and on behalf of all Michael’s supporters would like to thank Alderanredstar very much indeed for the selfless desire to help and the great work done.

In a reply to his Chilean readers Marcelo Morales said that he had sent this open letter to all major national newspapers, but curiously only two independent newspapers  – El Pardiario and El Nortero – published it. Hundreds of Victor Gutierrez’s compatriots who left their comments on the article reacted in rare unison and said that the article reflected everything they think about this parasite. Yes, a parasite is how Victor Gutierrez’s countrymen call him in almost each of their posts.

Ray Chandler: “Victor Gutierrez is a sleazebag”

The letter will hopefully be only opening the discussion of Victor Gutierrez and will be followed with other information about this sleazebag,  who stood behind the 1993 allegations against Michael Jackson and whom we see as  the main reason why they were made at all:

Open Letter to Victor Gutierrez:

I suppose that you must be happy with the death of Michael Jackson; that your cell phone hasn’t stopped ringing; and that your fees for articles and interviews have increased substantially. I suppose that now you can breathe easy knowing that the plaintiff has died and the case that you lost in 1997 is closed and that the $2.7 million that you were ordered to pay after losing the suit in USA will no longer bother you.

When you said you had in your power a video that incriminated Michael Jackson in compromising circumstances and you were not able to prove its existence and you lost the case, Chilean journalism was affected, its image, its professionalism, its ethics.

But you said:

“I declared bankruptcy and I had 10 years to come up with the money. June 07 was the deadline and after that, they can get nothing.” This strategy of letting time pass, of finding solutions that could be legal but which have nothing to do with morality, is habitual with you; it portrays the misery of your person and your lack of values, the total ignorance of living honorably, the indecency of a vulture and the immorality of a deadbeat conman throwing accusations in the air, unable to prove the truth of your statements.

Nor did you respond when in 2001 the Supreme Court of Chile sentenced you to pay $47,000 to Cecilia Bolocco for saying without any foundation that she was the lover of the Brazilian writer Paulo Coehlo. Here also you did not have the decency to pay the fine. How easy to do what you do, trash people, gain a lot of money in interviews, write books and articles full of lies and not lose anything when fines are levied against you when you lose, which has always been the case with you. How easy and how miserable is your life as a parasite. What evil you do to society.

“A journalist will not invent sources, covering them up as ‘insiders,” “an official,” etc. guarding in this manner the credibility and dignity of the profession.” (Article 8vo. Code of Ethics of Journalism).

In ‘Las Ultimas Noticias de Hoy’ [The News of the Day] you said, “Now I can negotiate the movie rights to my book, negotiations which were on hold,” “and of course programs all around the world are calling me to sell them information and even photos which I have of him when he was a child.”

What morality, Mr. Gutierrez, in continuing to negotiate, continuing to earn money at another’s cost, continuing the pursuit of money with a disgraceful agenda, even in death. You have gone beyond all the limits of decency and respect, you have gone beyond the Sixth Article of the Code of Ethics of a journalist, which says, “A journalist must always establish a clear distinction between facts, opinions, and interpretations, preventing all confusion or deliberate distortion between them.”

In 2003 when you knew the scandalous history of Claudio Spiniak YOU had no qualms in connecting Joaquin Lavin, at this time candidate for the presidency, with pedophilia, earning you once again a complaint that you could not prove your assertions with facts. You had no qualms about imagining a montage that infected a public candidate with the web of pedophilia. As always, it all ended in nothing but YOU. You waited for the waters to become calm, hiding your head like an ostrich.

This morning you said on ADN radio “Why keep talking about Michael Jackson when there are more important subjects?” And YOU said this? You who have lived and fed for years on reports and articles based on lies? You who have never had the honor to face criticism or pay what justice has imposed? How can you say there are more important topics if YOU have lived on these stories? How can you be such a miserable human being, a journalist who can reach this level of sordidness and dishonesty.

“I am not gay; my partner is gay” (VG, Revista El Periodista, 31 March 2003).

To me YOU are a despicable person, who in your known and infamous homosexuality we see sexual deviations from Pisces to Aquarius and who looks for fame and money in the worst manner; far from morality and professional ethics, committing murders of reputations and when these portraits you paint are shown in reverse, we see a faggot in the most literal of definitions.

The homosexual person is someone proper and respectable and I have nothing against that person, but to be a shit faggot like YOU I condemn it openly, and I regard as a lowlife scum one who inundates society with evil, with falsity, hypocrisy and dishonesty.

YOU will never make a real contribution as a journalist, you are merely a paparazzi who gossips about life and who is distant from ethics, decency, and values.”

Michael Jackson, thank you for your music that filled the celebrations of my youth with happiness, and for your enormous contribution to the music of the world. Rest in peace.

Marcelo Morales Navarro

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  1. Claudia Sanchez permalink
    October 20, 2012 11:33 am

    Thank you for bringing this letter to my attention. I’m Chilean, but I don’t live there any more so I didn’t know about this until I read your blog.


  2. October 20, 2012 11:53 am

    Claudia, welcome to the blog. The letter was written three years ago but I could not post it earlier as it is difficult to understand a computer translation from Spanish. Now that Aldebaranredstar helped us so much the letter can be posted at last and I hope will be taken further for all MJ’s supporters to know it. If you have a chance please help us with more translations about VG (if you cannot I’ll perfectly understand too).

    My huge thanks to Alderanredstar again!

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  3. October 20, 2012 11:58 am

    Aldebaran, since you asked for the Spanish of the reader’s comment about Victor Gutierrez and the fact that “he was paid to sink Michael Jackson”, here is the original of the comment from

    veronica 15 de Agosto de 2009 at 7:38 am #
    Hay una pagina que se llama MJHideout, donde dice efectivamente que a Victor Gutierrez lo contrato el año 1994 la cadena NBC de Estados Unidos para cubrir el juicio de Jackson y de paso hundirlo mediante noticias falsas y su libro, a cambio de un sueldo de 83.000 dolares mensuales. Esto se ratifica en el hecho de que Michael Jackson lo lleva a juicio por difamacion y gana, ya que Victor Gutierrez declara ante el juez que “le pagaron para hundir a Michael jackson”.

    The Google translation says:

    veronica August 15, 2009 at 7:38 a.m. #
    There is a site named MJHideout, which effectively says that Victor Gutierrez was hired in 1994 the U.S. broadcaster NBC to cover the trial of Jackson and sink step by false and his book, in exchange for a salary of 83,000 dollars per month. This confirms the fact that Michael Jackson was taken to court for defamation and wins, as Victor Gutierrez testifies before the judge that “he was paid to sink Michael Jackson”.“


  4. Susannerb permalink
    October 20, 2012 1:34 pm

    Great post, Helena. This must be brought to everyone’s attention. As well as the fact that there must have been a close cooperation between VG and Evan Chandler (and perhaps his lawyer Barry Rothman).


  5. October 20, 2012 1:55 pm

    Susanne, thank you for your kind words but I absolutely cannot take credit for it. This brilliant letter was written by Marcelo Morales and translated by Aldeberan.

    However I would like to add more information to it later when some more texts are translated and we put everything together. There was a time when I spent weeks (if not months) at the Spanish Hideout forum and Google translated all posts and comments on Gutierrez for several years. Unfortunately many links were not working and the language was a great barrier too. But I am still hopeful to fish something out of the materials collected.


  6. October 20, 2012 3:05 pm

    Here is the Google translation of one of the texts from the Spanish Hideout forum. It gives the timeline for some of Gutierrez’s “exploits” against Jackson. The information comes from the Chilean sources and is in line with everything else we’ve heard about Gutierrez by now.

    Let me note that Gutierrez was allowed to work for NBC and still not pay the money he owed to Michael Jackson under an earlier US court order. Gutierrez said that he had 10 years to pay the money after filing for bankruptcy. The order to pay $2,7mln. was made in 1998, so when Gutierrez worked for NBC during the 2005 trial at least some of his money should have gone to Michael Jackson as payment of the fine. However none did. Why I wonder?

    This article says that he was paid $25,000 a month, however another comment claimed that the salary was $83,000, so over here there is some controversy.

    Victor Gutierrez is a Chilean-born journalist currently living and working in the U.S.

    During the investigation of the 1993 case against Michael Jackson worked for the tabloid program Hard Copy, and disappeared, presented by Diane Dimond, anti-known journalist and close friend of Jackson attorney Tom Sneddon.

    In 1995, after the storm the Chandler case, Hard Copy Gutierrez announced that he had a videotape in which he saw Jackson commit sexual acts with a minor. The news spread in the form of different versions, some said that it was Jordan Chandler, and others it was Jeremy, Jackson’s nephew and son of his brother Jermaine.

    The weekly tabloid National Enquirer began planning to publish a report on the alleged video.

    Margaret Maldonado, Jermaine’s wife at the time and mother of Jeremy, was informed of this and threatened the newspaper with legal action if they published the rumor. The Enquirer pulled back, but Victor Gutierrez went on to tell the story with the help of her friend Diane Dimond, although it admitted not having seen the alleged video.

    Pressed by the media, police released a statement admitting that they were unaware of the existence of the tape, the story was false and that it was true that it had reopened the investigation against Jackson.

    The fact is that the video never showed up and of course Jeremy Michael has always spoken well. Jermaine, it is worth pointing that out, they went several times to Michael in the view of the current process.

    So that no one else but Gutierrez says she saw that video, nobody has seen catch, or failed to find the slightest evidence that these images come into existence.

    Jackson filed a 100 million dollars suit against Gutierrez, the program Hard Copy and KABC-AM radio (where Diane Dimond had spread the story.)

    In California there is a special law that protects journalists in court cases (Shield Law, recently used by Bashir in his statement on this case.) At the time, Reginald Dunn, Judge Supreme Court of California decided that Victor Gutierrez was no longer entitled to invoke the law and ordered him to testify what he knew about the alleged recording.

    Gutierrez said Elizabeth Taylor, a close friend of Jackson and now branded as drunk on the set, and the general prosecutor Gil Garcetti of Los Angeles could confirm that the video was real.

    Both Taylor and Garcetti denied it categorically.

    At the end of trial, the judge ordered Dunn Gutierrez Michael Jackson to pay compensation for offenses against his person and damage to public image.

    A week after the verdict, Victor Gutierrez fled to Mexico and after a while, he returned to his native Chile. From there he continued claiming to have the video: a video that still did not see anyone. Gutierrez did not explain where it came from or why they never taught.

    In October 1997, Jackson launched new legal action against Gutiérrez, because he still had not complied with the payment. Gutierrez filed for bankruptcy, despite being a tabloid journalist well known in Chile and other Latin American countries. ”

    In April 1998, Jackson won the second application and finally Gutiérrez was sentenced to pay $ 2.7 million. The jury expressed explicitly in its ruling that they were sick of the tabloid famous for exploit the economic benefit, and they hoped the verdict was exemplary.

    Even after this verdict, Gutierrez continued to insist that had that video and also had the happy idea of writing a book inspired by a nonexistent personal diary of Jordan Chandler.

    The book was based entirely on the testimony of former Neverland Ranch employees. People in the past had admitted selling fake stories to tabloids, and also lost a lawsuit for alleged unfair dismissal, Jackson going to owe $ 1 million for attorneys’ fees.

    The book also included a list of minor celebrities who, according to Gutierrez, Jackson had sexually abused. Each and every one of them flatly denied.

    When Michael Jackson was again accused by Gavin Arvizo and his family in 2003, Victor Gutierrez went back into the United States. Without paying compensation still owed to Jackson, he started working for Dateline NBC program, along with his old friend Diane Dimond.

    From this program, both poured several stories that were proven false in court as the alleged love letters from Jackson to Gavin, the supposed discovery of the accuser’s DNA in bed with Jackson, the alleged possession by Jackson of children porn, etc.

    In addition, daily summaries of the sessions are now generally accepted in the U.S., are biased and systematically ignore the excellent work carried out by the defense rebuttal.

    Today, Victor Gutierrez is still working for NBC in Los Angeles (California) and charges $ 25,000 a month. No one knows what tax trick was used to keep him allegedly bankrupt, but the fact is that he has not paid a single cent of those 2.7 million to Michael Jackson.


  7. October 20, 2012 3:20 pm

    This great article needs to be spread to as many western media as possible.
    “The strange lifestyle and other matters that plagued his life..” is still the mantra in many
    western publications.Often they do not take any stand re the veracity if varous claims, and many are “neutral” not saying anything ,but repeating the mantra.And thank you all who brought this out.Aldebaranredstar,VMJ and others.


  8. October 20, 2012 4:41 pm

    Another article is attributed to Associated press and says that as soon as the Arvizo allegations became known Gutierrez demanded that Michael Jackson should pay him $6mln. instead of him paying $2,7 to MJ following the court order.

    Gutierrez wanted a compensation for Michael “questioning his book”. The article says that the book contains the “testimonies of 16 abused children”. I’ve read the book and must tell you that there is not a single testimony of any child there – what a grandiose lie! All the book has are highly exaggerated stories by Adrian McManus and some bodyguards.

    Exaggeration would not be even the right word for it – there is simply no shred of truth in those stories. For example, Adrian McManus (MJ’s personal maid at the time) is described as frantically hiding some stained sheets, underwear and other “incriminating” evidence when the police arrived to search Neverland in 1993, and all of it would sound genuine enough if it were not for one small detail – Adrian McManus was simply not present in Neverland during the initial search. She took a day-off exactly on that day and confirmed this fact during her testimony at the 2005 trial.

    This is the kind of mega lies Gutierrez tells! We never thought anything like that to be ever possible – there is simply nothing to tell, but this nothing is nevertheless described in most vivid detail!

    We also find out from the Spanish article that when Gutierrez fled from the US (in order not to pay Jackson) he accused of pedophilia some politician(s) in his own country. The case described here must be the one when the politician sued Gutirrez and Gutierrez lost and didn’t pay again which is his usual practice. We know of it from the Open Letter by Marcelo Morales.

    Here is the article in Google translation:

    SANTIAGO DE CHILE – A Chilean journalist who fled the U.S. after accusing Michael Jackson of child abuse, said that now that the artist was charged with child abuse he requires compensation of $ 6 million.

    “I am going to take until the last weight to Michael Jackson. He questioned me, questioned my book. Now comes the hand of return,” said journalist Víctor Gutiérrez.

    The journalist wrote nine years ago in Los Angeles a book with the testimony of 16 children who suffered abuse by Jackson, who has just been charged and released on bail in California.

    The singer sued and Gutierrez was ordered to pay $ 2.7 million to Jackson. As he had no resources, he returned to Chile, where he usually practices journalism of denunciation. Recently, he revealed the alleged involvement of right-wing politicians in a case of paedophilia.

    Víctor Gutiérrez said Saturday, according to a Mexico City newspaper, that his lawyer now offers to represent him free and that he will ask the judge who sentenced him to annul his case.

    The Spanish original:


  9. October 20, 2012 5:34 pm

    Claudia it is great to have a Chilean on board even if you no longer live in Chile.You must
    know some people there though ,and through them we could get more info re your infamous compatriot.


  10. Solveig permalink
    October 20, 2012 6:50 pm

    Thank you Helena for posting this brilliant article. I did not know about it and indeed it should be spread to the media. Can I share it on FB and Twitter?


  11. October 20, 2012 6:55 pm

    Here is one more article which details the financial arrangements between Victor Gutierrez and NBC. Evidently Gutierrez was so happy to get the contract that he bragged to the newspaper SPECTACULOS that he was becoming the most high-paid Chilean journalist, would be paid $25,000 a month, was choosing between ABC and NBC, would live in a five-star hotel, would have two research journalists and a producer and would have a chance to use his book “Michael Jackson was my lover – the secret diary of Jordie Chandler” as a background for his work on NBC.

    The article is dated January 2004, is computer translated but is quite understandable. The “millionaire” contract they are talking of is in pesos. The thread in the Hideout forum is called: “Victor Gutierrez contratado por la NBC para hundir a MJ” (which means “Victor Gutierrez hired by NBC to sink MJ”):

    SPECTACULOS Saturday, January 3, 2004

    The journalist will receive more than 25 thousand dollars monthly as a commentator on the U.S. program Dateline.

    NBC gives Gutierrez a millionaire contract to cover Jackson’s case.

    The ABC also wanted him, but the Chilean signed with the competitor a couple of weeks ago. The agreement is valid until at least April. For this reason, on Wednesday part to Los Angeles.

    Víctor Gutiérrez,-according to Pablo Longueira, author of a “plot” against the UDI for his article in the Spiniak case, the journalist farandulera of close-up, which even wavered when asked on the twin fields if they exercised prostitution and which revealed the case of ‘White Fang’ became the highest-paid Chilean journalist abroad.

    Two weeks ago the professional signed a contract to be adviser and commentator of the Dateline program – the North American chain of NBC – for the coverage of the trial of Michael Jackson for sexual harassment of minors, the judicial process following the famous more controversial O.J. Simpson case. For the work that will extend at least until April (month when the contract ends but which could also be renewed until December), he will receive an amount exceeding the $ 25,000 monthly salary (about 15 million pesos).

    Job details

    The Dateline show is broadcast every Tuesday, Friday and Sunday. Friday, January 16, the day when the trial of the singer accused of acts against minors will begin to broadcast live, Víctor Gutiérrez will be aired on Dateline commenting in English – the language that speaks perfectly – on the background of the case, supporting it with information compiled in his book “Michael Jackson was my lover: the secret diary of Jordie Chandler” where he accuses Jackson of pedophilia and was the work that meant the Chilean artist a suit for $ 2.7 million, as well as having to leave the United States.

    But though it was assumed that the former panelist would have problems to enter the country from the North, there was no mishap for his signing the contract. He was subjected to a test by the director of NBC News, who did not know the Chilean and asked him a series of questions about the case – a questionnaire which Gutierrez answered gracefully.

    The broadcaster Gutierrez has already been assigned two journalists-researchers and a producer in the United States, who will help to deepen the case and it has already been reported through the satellite phone that the chain was set. The contract also includes his stay in a five star hotel in Los Angeles, where he will make his interventions in the program. The Chilean is also expected to comment the next case to Randy Taraborrelli, author of the Biography Michael Jackson, The Magic and the Madness.

    Those close to the professional say that he has already received his first payment and the high sum made him doubt for a week where he should go to cash the cheque. The “Close-up” journalist says he is happy. “It is an honor to have a prestigious North American channel call a Chilean to comment on such an emblematic case.” “And at the same time is an opportunity to announce the research work that I did on Jackson,” says.

    Silver around Michael Jackson

    Apart from the law enforcement aspects and farandulescos of the Michael Jackson case, today the controversy revolves around the media. Yesterday the newspaper The New York Times published information from “anonymous sources” that America CBS television network would have paid a million dollars to the singer for the interview to 60 Minutes that was broadcast last Sunday. This was immediately denied by the aforementioned channel.

    But some time ago the money that revolves around this case reached unimaginable figures. Just check how much is the book of Gutierrez today on the site internet, one of the world’s largest virtual libraries. The work of the Chilean journalist, Michael Jackson was my lover: the secret diary of Jordie Chandler: used – $ 140; in good condition – $400, new – $2,200, which is between 83,000 and a million 304 thousand Chilean pesos. In addition, NBC to ensure the signature of Gutierrez held a satellite transmission of 30 minutes for Gutierrez a couple of weeks ago.

    The Spanish original is here:

    ESPECTÁCULOS Sábado 3 de enero de 2004

    El periodista recibirá más de 25 mil dólares mensuales por ser comentarista en el programa norteamericano Dateline

    NBC ofrece millonario contrato a Gutiérrez para cubrir caso Jackson

    La cadena ABC también lo quiso, pero el chileno firmó con la competencia hace un par de semanas. El acuerdo tiene vigencia al menos hasta abril. Por ello, el miércoles parte a Los Angeles.

    Víctor Gutiérrez, el -según Pablo Longueira- autor de un “complot” en contra de la UDI por su artículo del caso Spiniak, el periodista farandulero de Primer Plano, el que ni siquiera titubeó al preguntarles a las gemelas Campos si ejercieron la prostitución y el mismo que reveló el caso de “Colmillo Blanco”, se convirtió en el periodista chileno mejor pagado en el extranjero.

    Hace dos semanas el profesional firmó un contrato para ser asesor y comentarista del programa Dateline -de la cadena norteamericana NBC- para la cobertura del juicio a Michael Jackson por acoso sexual a menores, el proceso judicial a un famoso más polémico después del caso O.J. Simpson. Por el trabajo, que se extenderá al menos hasta abril (mes en que vence el contrato, pero el que también podría ser renovado hasta diciembre), recibirá una suma superior a los 25 mil dólares mensuales (cerca de 15 millones de pesos).

    Detalles del trabajo

    El programa Dateline es transmitido los martes, viernes y domingo. El viernes 16 de enero, día en que comenzará la transmisión en vivo del juicio al cantante acusado de actos libidinosos en contra de menores, Víctor Gutiérrez estará al aire en Dateline comentando en inglés -idioma que maneja perfectamente- antecedentes de la causa, respaldándose en la información que recopiló en su libro Michael Jackson Fue mi Amante: El Diario Secreto de Jordie Chandler, obra donde se acusa a Jackson de pedófilo y que le significó al chileno una demanda del artista por 2,7 millones de dólares, así como tener que dejar Estados Unidos.

    Pero aunque se suponía que el ex panelista de Primer Plano tendría problemas para ingresar al país del norte, no tuvo percance alguno cuando fue a firmar el contrato. Allá fue sometido a una prueba por el director de noticias de NBC, quien al no conocer al chileno, lo probó haciéndole una serie de preguntas sobre el caso, cuestionario del cual Gutiérrez habría salido airoso.

    La cadena televisiva ya le asignó a Gutiérrez dos periodistas investigadores y un productor en Estados Unidos, los que le ayudarán a profundizar en el caso y con los que ya se ha comunicado a través del teléfono satelital que la cadena le entregó. El contrato, además, incluye su estada en un hotel cinco estrellas en Los Angeles, desde donde hará sus intervenciones en el programa. También se espera tener al chileno comentando el caso junto a Randy Taraborrelli, autor de la biografía Michael Jackson, The Magic and the Madness.

    Cercanos al profesional cuentan que ya recibió su primer pago y que la alta suma le hizo dudar una semana dónde ir a cambiar el cheque. El periodista de Primer Plano parte el miércoles a Los Angeles y dice estar feliz. “Es un honor que un prestigioso canal norteamericano llame a un chileno para comentar un caso tan emblemático. Y a la vez es una oportunidad para reivindicar el trabajo de investigación que realicé sobre Jackson”, comenta.

    Plata en torno a Michael Jackson

    Más allá de los aspectos policiales y farandulescos del caso Michael Jackson, hoy la polémica gira en torno a los medios de comunicación. Ayer el diario The New York Times publicó por medio de “fuentes anónimas” que la cadena de televisión America’s CBS habría pagado un millón de dólares al cantante por la entrevista que otorgó a 60 Minutes, y que fue transmitida el domingo pasado. Esto fue inmediatamente desmentido por el canal aludido.

    Pero hace tiempo que el dinero que gira en torno a este caso ha adquirido cifras inimaginables. Basta revisar a cuánto está el libro de Gutiérrez hoy en el sitio internet, una de las librerías virtuales más grandes del mundo. La obra del periodista chileno, Michael Jackson Fue mi Amante: El Diario Secreto de Jordie Chandler usado -ya que tuvo poco tiraje- cuesta 140 dólares; en buen estado US$ 400 y como nuevo US$ 2.200. Es decir, entre $ 83.000 y un millón 304 mil pesos chilenos. Además, NBC para asegurarse la firma de Gutiérrez, costeó la transmisión satelital de 30 minutos que hizo Gutiérrez para Primer Plano hace un par de semanas.


  12. October 20, 2012 7:26 pm

    “I did not know about it and indeed it should be spread to the media. Can I share it on FB and Twitter?”

    Solveig, absolutely! You shouldn’t even ask!


  13. October 20, 2012 7:46 pm

    To go to another author with some p-filia. Nabokov wrote “Lolita”. When his wife was asked about it:.”We needed the money”. I have read the book when I was young and again in later years. The protagonist ,HumbertHumbert-(Nabokov had arrived in the US from Eastern Europe)describes the travels of himself and Lolita throgh out US., and there are a few descriptions of sex and the cuteness of 12yo Lolita.The latter is nothing remarkable, any mother,father or just any body can note the prettiness of a 12 yo girl.The description of the sexual encounters are few and some of them funny: It is good for the skin (if I recall). The most salient feature to me was the banality of America as he describes it, the flat relationships of people and finally the somewhat sad marriage and pregnancy of Lolita when he meets her later, a bright ,intelligent girl married to a laborer on their way to move to Alaska.Throughout their relationship Lolita is most uninterested in sex,at times she reads magazines when Humbert has intercourse with her.


  14. October 20, 2012 8:33 pm

    Sorry, and forgive me Helena, Nabokov is Russian. I had avague memory of that,but was not sure. Only after my post below did I look it up 1;st time on Wiki.And at the very end Humbert realizes that he has robbed Dolores AKA Lolita of her childhood.
    I never bothered to see any movieis on this book,thought it could not be made.He wrote it betwee. 1948-1953.That book got lost when I left US.


  15. October 20, 2012 8:55 pm

    And forgive me Helena of dragging a great author into this blog,with the danger(though slight I hope) of anybody even comparing the 2.Just saying that a subject can be dealt with on a high ,level. But not so by someone writing from his own heart mind and below..


  16. aldebaranredstar permalink
    October 20, 2012 9:58 pm

    Hi, VMJ, thanks very much for posting the Open Letter written by Marcelo Morales.

    I would like to change the last sentence of the translation, if that is still possible (sorry).

    Here is the original translation :”The homosexual person is someone proper and respectable and I have nothing against that person, but to be a shit faggot like YOU I condemn openly and I [consider it an evil birth] that inundates society with evil, with falsity, hypocrisy and dishonesty. ”

    So instead of that I prefer this translation:

    “The homosexual person is someone proper and respectable and I have nothing against that person, but to be a shit faggot like YOU I condemn it openly, and I regard as a lowlife scum one who inundates society with evil, with falsity, hypocrisy and dishonesty.”

    I was looking for a good translation of ‘mal nacido,’ which literally means ‘an evil birth’ but it is much more than that, someone who is very ill-bred, it can also be translated as a pig or swine (but that is unfair to pigs!!) and I think ‘lowlife scum’ does the trick!

    Thank you!!

    There is a comment on Marcelo’s letter in el Nortero that says that VG also smeared a ‘show woman’ called Marlen Olivari by saying she was a lesbian. According to the poster, VG followed this person and took photos of her in compromising situations and later interviewed a supposed lover of Marlen. She asks if someone will end up committing suicide from the lies of VG.

    Thank god Michael was strong enough to keep going and be strong.


  17. October 20, 2012 10:00 pm

    “And forgive me Helena of dragging a great author into this blog,with the danger(though slight I hope) of anybody even comparing the 2”

    Kaarin, there is nothing to apologize for – I am not going to defend a Russian solely because he is my countryman. Nabokov was from Russia but since he is now forever associated with Lolita I have never been able to bring myself to read anything by him (though I have this author in my library). The most I did was watching the film.

    First, I don’t even want to know about his character’s sex feelings, emotions, etc. for a young girl and second, I lose all interest in a writer, artist, etc. the moment he gives me suspicion that something is not okay with him. And it all the more concerns the works of a genius (by the way this is why I didn’t initially accept Michael – before this research – due to all those suspicions).

    And as regards Nabokov I think it is terribly irresponsible of a genius to write about pedophilia obsession. A talented writer will turn it into a powerful story which will haunt you and probably make you even sympathize with the man hit by such an obsession – and this will be the first step to accepting it.

    A mediocre writer will not be able to do that much harm – you’ll through away his trash at the third page. But for a talented writer it is a must to be a responsible one. He bears responsibility for those whom he takes on the road with him. He simply has no right to take people to hell – even if he is hungry and needs money. I am sure that we will answer to God for what we do to others – whether we turn them away from the road to spiritual enlightment or walk together with them along this road.

    By the way I think that Nabokov should have had something in his nature which made him write that novel. Sorry if I am mistaken.


  18. October 20, 2012 10:19 pm

    Aldebaranredstar, changing the post is no problem – you cannot imagine how many times I do the same after finding a hundred mistakes. Now your post has been corrected. Thank you for the correction, all of us want the Open letter to be as perfect as it can only be.

    As to Gutierrez’s stories about people everything I’ve read about him is connected with scandals over accusing people of ped-lia, or “exposing” someone as gays or lesbians (though he is gay himself), or lawsuits brought against him, or people’s careers broken due to his lies. He loves to make money from bringing people down, even if they don’t deserve it and are totally innocent.

    Up till now I have not encountered a single positive fact about him, except one – he uncovered some wrongdoing in the army. Probably then he was younger and still retained some grains of integrity which are now totally gone.

    Did you pay attention to this article?


  19. aldebaranredstar permalink
    October 20, 2012 10:20 pm

    Hi, again, VMJ, it would be great to get hold of the court transcripts from Michael’s suit against VG and the others regarding the fake videotape, if they are available. From your posts, there was the initial suit and some later ones from 95 to 98 (?).

    Also it is very strange that he was able to make such good $$ starting in 2004 for NBC and later ABC and yet not have his wages garnished or confiscated. I wonder why he was protected??

    Also doesn’t it tell us how corrupt the media is that they would hire a complete and PROVEN liar and slanderer and pay that person such a salary–one that many people can only make in an entire year ($25,000/mo). (It could be that the 83,000 figure is in different currency–Chilean pesos?).


  20. aldebaranredstar permalink
    October 20, 2012 10:37 pm

    I am looking at the article you linked (on the MJHideOut website). Some of the comments suggest that others to send lots of spam, porno, etc to NBC website in response to their hiring VG as a sign they hate NBC. One of the posters says NBC just wants to f–k MJ over. Most posters are seeing through the BS and are for Michael–both here and in the letters in response to Marcelo Morales’ Letter.

    BTW, thanks for changing the Letter–I am glad you did that.

    The ‘MJ’ in the first line of the Letter is written out as ‘Michael Jackson.’ I just made the abbreviation to save myself some time, so if you can change that to Michael Jackson, it will be more in keeping with Marcelo’s Letter.



  21. October 20, 2012 11:09 pm

    “doesn’t it tell us how corrupt the media is that they would hire a complete and PROVEN liar and slanderer and pay that person such a salary–one that many people can only make in an entire year ($25,000/mo). (It could be that the 83,000 figure is in different currency–Chilean pesos?). – aldebaranredstar”

    It does. The controversy in the salary is cleared up by a more detailed article about NBC, Dateline and Gutierrez which is also posted here. The salary was $25,000 a month. That article also mentions 83,000 [pesos] as a starting price at which Gutierrez’s used book is sold on Amazon. Gutierrez is evidently very proud of high prices for his book. However it is not due to its quality, but solely due to the book being a rarity as it is banned in the US (evidently as child pornography).

    The documents on the video tape fraud by Gutierrez and Dimond are in this post:

    Michael Jackson sued Gutierrez over the non-existent tape in 1995 while the book was published in 1997. The defamation case was over in 1998 and the court sentence to pay $2,7 mln. covered Gutierrez’s fraud over the video tape as the suit was initially brought in connection with that only. As regards the book I think it was banned due to being child pornography.

    P.S. I’ve changed MJ into Michael Jackson. Didn’t notice it in the letter, sorry.


  22. October 20, 2012 11:10 pm

    VMJ,I do´t want to argue the case. I purpousfully did NOT see any of the films because I knew the FILMS would be SMUT.Nabokov says he is writing about a monster and there exists not a family more miserable than what he writes about.


  23. October 20, 2012 11:20 pm

    “Nabokov says he is writing about a monster and there exists not a family more miserable than what he writes about.” -kaarin

    If this is the case then it explains it. If he wrote it to show the misery and horror of this pervert’s life, then no one will want to follow his example. It is the message of the novel that really matters. But I’m still unwilling to read it – the book by Gutierrez was quite enough for me.


  24. October 20, 2012 11:21 pm

    I am glad that Victor Guitirrez is under the microscope. Too bad he has such high security and shielding in Chile. It would be interesting to know about his family and his ex-partners.
    Also he has written extensively in Chile and about MJ. Those papers may not be around anymore,but perhaps somebody has saved up.


  25. October 20, 2012 11:32 pm

    “Also he has written extensively in Chile and about MJ. Those papers may not be around anymore,but perhaps somebody has saved up.”

    Kaarin, I’ve saved a lot of texts from that Hideout forum and some Spanish newspapers, but the language barrier is a problem. Many of the texts concern Gutierrez accusing people of ped-lia and the methods he uses, but in matters like these details are important which escape you when reading in a computer translation.

    Generally speaking I must say that the information about Gutierrez himself is unnaturally scarce. No personal information at all and almost nothing about his family. It is almost like someone swept away all information about him from the net.


  26. October 21, 2012 12:15 am

    I heard about this sleezebag’s book, but never knew what the book contained. Thank you for posting the open letter. It is very interesting. Kudos to Mr.Morales. Excellent work. It seems as though there were many who were paid to lie. Is this letter saying that Victor Gutierrez received a salary of $86,000 to defame Michael? Perhaps the fans knowing about this can dig deeper into finding out who else was behind this scheme; I am sure there were many. Of course, we all know Sneddon was involved. It would be great if we could find out if Demon Diane Dimond was involved. She reported untruths and lies about Michael and continues to do so whenever the opportunity arises. She was (and perhaps still is) a very good friend of Tom Sneddon’s.

    If there is anything at all that the fans can do to help expose these despicable individuals, let us know. Please keep the fans posted. Justice for Michael!!!


  27. October 21, 2012 1:57 am

    V.G. has show on Chile TeVe called Maikel Perez Jackson y Victor Guitirrez started on 28/8/09.I believe that date was the first show,then there are more 25.9 & 27.9 /09. You can get to see them through youtube.Sorry for the bad news, but what else can you expect.


  28. aldebaranredstar permalink
    October 21, 2012 2:33 am

    I came across this post by someone with an internet name of Jacksonaktak about VG on the website Dancingwiththeelephant:

    “All this about Gutierrez should be kept in mind when you consider his role in the allegations against Michael, which seems to be a lot more than what most people realize. He might actually even be the originator of it as he before the Chandlers made their allegations he made his rounds among parents of Michael’s young friends spreading the seeds and alleging to them that Michael was a pedophile. For example, he approached Joy Robson, the mother of Wade Robson with this claim in 1992. Joy did not buy it, but one year later Evan Chandler might have. Considering Gutierrez’s ‘interesting’ views on pedophilia, spreading this lie might serve a more sinister agenda than simple tabloid sensationalism. BTW, many of the prosecution’s witnesses in 2005, most of the ex-employees, had a contact with Gutierrez. It’s interesting to track down that he was virtually everywhere in this case behind the scenes.”

    Thanks for the change in the ‘MJ’ part, VMJ.


  29. Rodrigo permalink
    October 21, 2012 2:48 am

    Gutierrez was the originator. He and the pervs at NAMBLA had their agenda for Michael. Being a journalist, he had a lot to gain from that standpoint as well.

    And the saddest part is, not many people know of his actual involvement with the Chandler’s and the allegations.


  30. aldebaranredstar permalink
    October 21, 2012 3:11 am

    This is the email for Marcelo Morales Navarro, the Executive Director of an online newspaper called Entre Tiempos.

    It might be a good idea to contact him? What do you think? The website is current, 2012.


  31. October 21, 2012 3:57 am

    Aldebaranredstar,re your post Oct.21 2012 at 2:33am.That is what I have thought too,He acts like a vengevful rejected lover.


  32. October 21, 2012 6:18 am

    A multiple questionaire:(what do you think?):Is V.G.1 a homosexual, 2.a pederast,
    3, a pedophile,4.allof the above, 5. none of the above.


  33. Rodrigo permalink
    October 21, 2012 7:19 am

    4. All of the above 😀


  34. October 21, 2012 1:16 pm

    “Aldebaranredstar,re your post Oct.21 2012 at 2:33am.That is what I have thought too,He acts like a vengeful rejected lover.” -kaarin

    Victor Gutierrez is a totally sick man. His mind is sick, his fantasies are sick and he is living in a sick world of his, seeing nothing but dirt around him, even when there is none.

    Now they say that our thoughts are ‘material’ (and not immaterial and ephemeral), so through one’s thoughts each person creates an environment of his own. By the lyrics of his songs, his thoughts and ideas Michael created an environment everyone would want to live in. But what kind of an environment Gutierrez creates by his way of thinking? After reading his book I feel nauseous even at imagining it.


  35. October 21, 2012 4:23 pm

    “Is this letter saying that Victor Gutierrez received a salary of $86,000 to defame Michael?” – Doris Gorgo

    This was a mistake of one of the readers. His salary for defaming was $25,000 but even this was a huge sum. Victor Gutierrez was very proud of it. Newspapers said that he was the highest paid Chilean journalist working abroad.

    “Perhaps the fans knowing about this can dig deeper into finding out who else was behind this scheme; I am sure there were many. Of course, we all know Sneddon was involved. It would be great if we could find out if Demon Diane Dimond was involved”

    We do know that Diane Dimond was involved. She said that Victor Gutierrez was her “best source”. Here is a quote from the court documents concerning Michael Jackson’s lawsuit against Diane Dimond over the false video tape which never existed. That information was provided by Dimond’s best source – Victor Gutierrez:

    Q: “It is an x-rated tape?”

    Dimond: “It is . . . yes.”

    Q: “Of Michael Jackson?”

    Dimond: “Truly explicit.”

    Q: “It’s what? Michael Jackson and little boy. Are you 100% sure that this tape exists?”

    Dimond: “I am as sure as I can possibly be.“

    Q: “You have not seen it?”

    Dimond: “I have not seen it but one of my best sources on the Michael Jackson story has seen it.”

    Q: “Who .. . you have no doubts about.”

    Dimond: “I have never had a doubt about this person, ever. I know the District Attorneys’ Office is looking for it because they are calling up reporters saying ‘Have you seen it.’ . . . Do you know where we can get it?”


    Gutierrez: “When you [Unintelligible] . . . the tape, there is no doubt about it. It is very graphic.”

    Dimond: “It is impossible to independently confirm the existence of the video but several sources including some as far away as London say that this tape is black and white, 27 minutes long, and reportedly recorded by one of Jackson’s own security cameras. Sources also tell Hard Copy the tape was somehow turned over to the Mother of the young boy seen on the video.”

    Dimond: “Victor Gutierrez has reported on Michael Jackson for the last decade and has a book about to be published regarding the entertainer’s relationship with various boys. Gutierrez has talked with this young boy’s mother.”

    Gutierrez: “And now she is scared. And now, not only that, the District Attorney is trying to get these tapes and I guess through my sources, they already been in contact with the Mother. So, it’s up to the Mother now to make the final decision.”

    In reality the tape never existed. The mother of the boy – Margaret Macdonaldo – had not seen the tape, had never talked to Victor Gutierrez and had never even heard this crazy story until a friend called her and said what was happening. The officer from the D.A. department talked to Victor Gutierrez on January 5, 1995 but dismissed the case. Nevertheless Diane Dimond reported it four days later on January 9, 1995.

    Sneddon made a statement clearing Dimond out of this situation. The judge decided that she was not acting with malice and was let down by her best source Victor Gutierrez. Gutierrez was sued by Michael for slander and in 1998 was sentenced to pay $2,7 mln. but fled to Chile and never paid. In 2004 he returned to the USA to work for NBC together with Diane Dimond again. He was given a job to cover the 2005 trial where Tom Sneddon was the prosecutor. This how close these three are interconnected.

    P.S. Not a single cent was deducted from Gutierrez’s salary to pay to Michael Jackson.


  36. October 21, 2012 4:48 pm

    An addendum to my questionnaire: I got somewhat concerned afterwards that I put “Homosexual” in there with “pedofilia”.I know they do not go together, there might be the occasinal exception to the rule. I want to refer to the open letter translated by Aldebaranredstrar on the post MJ-93 case where he touches on this subject and that I fully agree.
    I hope that I did not hurt anybody’s feelings.
    Now the next questionnaire, we know VG has a gay partner. SO , is this his partner 1. in bed , crime. 3. both , 4. neither.


  37. October 21, 2012 4:57 pm

    Alderabanredstar, I managed to get to that Dancingwiththeekephant site. Very good and great comments. I agree that the child molestation hysteria of the time may have been a welcome smokescreen for the the child neglect allowed by the big powers at the time.
    Also I think that even if Michael never met VG in person he must have had a sense of this vile persecution going on and that it may have been an underlying layer in some of his lyrics.


  38. October 21, 2012 6:14 pm

    VMJ- they say our thoughts are material-I just read an incredible article by a neurosurgeon in News Week. It was increbible. I will get back to it later. And sorry for typos,part of my signature.My spoken English is 99.90% fluent..


  39. October 21, 2012 6:48 pm

    V.G. is a coldblooded, heartless psychopath. After Michael’s death he puts up a show on Chile TV, a burlesque,comic show called:Maikel Perez Jackson y Victor Guitirrez.On 28/8 2009.
    He does this to a man, the object of his past obssessive love and lust, of whose death he is partly to blame,and who , by slandering him brought him riches he could not have even dreamed of.


  40. October 21, 2012 7:16 pm

    “they say our thoughts are material-I just read an incredible article by a neurosurgeon in News Week. It was increbible. I will get back to it later. And sorry for typos,part of my signature. My spoken English is 99.90% fluent.” – kaarin

    It’s okay, I’m used to correcting them. Could you give a link to the article in Newsweek, please? Is it about proof for our thoughts to be material enough to change the world?


  41. October 21, 2012 7:24 pm

    “After Michael’s death he puts up a show on Chile TV, a burlesque,comic show called:Maikel Perez Jackson y Victor Guitirrez. On 28/8 2009.”

    Kaarin, I’ve had a look and you know what? I rarely feel hate for someone, but over here I have a cold desire to stamp out this insect with my foot – to clean the earth of this dirt.

    This is happening only two months after Michael’s death, on the eve of his birthday!

    And THIS kind of an “expert” was “consulting” NBC, Diane Dimond, Bashir and others all these years?


  42. aldebaranredstar permalink
    October 21, 2012 8:43 pm

    I haven’t read VG’s trash book, but there are excerpts I have read. One excerpt is truly amazing. In it Jordan and Michael are in Monaco, and getting ready to go to the Award ceremony when Michael says he wants to molest Jordan, who says, we’ll be late, and Michael says it will be quick, and so Jordan takes off his pants, and Michael performs oral sex, and then they go to the Awards. It is all presented as if you are saying, Oh, I need to get a drink of water or make a call or something quite routine. There is no emotion, and it is all cut and dried, completely without any human emotion. It is the most amazingly DEAD account of a human sexual exchange I have ever read!!! I can’t believe anyone would think it was a true account. The word ‘lover’ doesn’t apply–this act as described is mechanical, dead, loveless, and of course that is just like the sick-minded writer VG.

    For someone like Michael, who was so emotionally expressive in music, dancing, speaking, this is such a false portrayal, and it is clear to me that VG had no idea AT ALL who Michael Jackson really was, what kind of intellect, artist, what kind of person, what kind of heart and soul. He never knew Michael Jackson AT ALL in any sense of the word!! So in that way, VG is a very sad person b/c he missed knowing about the wonderful Michael Jackson and only ‘knew’ an invention of his own mind with that name, someone who never existed.


  43. aldebaranredstar permalink
    October 21, 2012 8:54 pm

    This show ‘Maikal Perez Jackson’ is so infantile, just like VG. He is a true psychopath with no remorse or conscience, like DD, TS, Maureen Orth or Bashir. These are people without shame.

    I know Michael and Jesus are very different BUT Jesus was mocked and so was Michael by fools who did not understand great teachers and prophets.

    As Shakespeare said, ‘Let Hercules himself do what he may, the cat will mew and dog will have his day.”

    VG is the dog having his day, but Michael’s day will live forever, and the world will know who VG really is–a Judas who got his 30 pieces of silver.


  44. Truth Prevail permalink
    October 21, 2012 10:24 pm

    Wow that was a deep letter thanks for translating it.


  45. October 22, 2012 1:09 am

    VMj the News Week article is in the Oct.15:th 2012 nr.,By Dr. Eben Alexander.An academic neurosurgeon,Harvard Medical School and other universities.The name of the article is;MY PROOF OF HEAVEN..(page 46)When a neurosurgeon found himself in a coma,he expierienced things he never thought possible-a journey to the afterlife.On the front page ,up on top there is a headline:Life After Death.By a Doctor Who Expierienced it.
    It is not one of those ,not so unusual, out of the body expieriences. He has known patients of his own who has had that.A book will be published about it too, by Simon & &


  46. October 22, 2012 2:07 am

    Just read that article.It is astounding. No,we will still have to think and make decisions and act upon them.But it greatly enhances thinking and the creation of ideas when people put their thoughts together with others.


  47. Mrarcelo permalink
    October 22, 2012 2:52 am

    Thank you all for your comments, glad you liked the letter, the truth is that I did with humility, feelings and respect for MJ and clar leave the journalist Victor Gutierrez is a being who does not deserve any respect.

    I am at your service.

    a hug

    Marcelo Morales

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  48. Rodrigo permalink
    October 22, 2012 8:07 am

    Good stuff, Marcelo. I applaud you.


  49. October 22, 2012 10:33 am

    Helena, may I just call your attention to a little mistake in your first sentence of the post? It should be June 27, not September 27.


  50. October 22, 2012 1:29 pm

    Susanne, thank you very much! This is the kind of funny mistakes when I am in a hurry. Sometimes I am a complete idiot. Now it has been corrected. Thanks again!


  51. October 22, 2012 2:00 pm

    Marcelo, we are very happy to see you in this blog. Bravo to you for the Open letter to Gutierrez and thanks a lot for your readiness to help! By making that letter you have won thousands of friends the world over in a single moment.

    If you don’t mind one of our readers will write to you in Spanish explaining what we have found out about Gutierrez and asking you some questions about him, if we may.

    We have learned that Gutierrez is more than an ordinary hater. He was most probably the reason why the first accusations against Michael were made in 1993 at all.

    If you want to write anything about Gutierrez in this blog you are more than welcome. Some of our readers know Spanish and will hopefully help with the translation if you prefer to write in Spanish.

    The sources available to us have very scarce information about Gutierrez so we are interested to know everything you know about him. Even a minor, seemingly insignificant detail may help in finding who Gutierrez really is and why he is doing it to Michael Jackson. In case there are some issues you would not want to make public, please contact me by email.

    Thank you very much again for your readiness to help.

    God help us all.

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  52. October 22, 2012 3:37 pm

    Nooo, please, Helena, you’re no idiot. This is just human. We’re not made for being 100% perfect, lol!!


  53. Greet permalink
    October 22, 2012 11:35 pm

    Thank you Mr. Morales and Helena. It is good there are people like you who provide us that information.
    About :
    “VMj the News Week article is in the Oct.15:th 2012 nr.,By Dr. Eben Alexander.An academic neurosurgeon,Harvard Medical School and other universities.The name of the article is;MY PROOF OF HEAVEN..(page 46)When a neurosurgeon found himself in a coma,he expierienced things he never thought possible-a journey to the afterlife.On the front page ,up on top there is a headline:Life After Death.By a Doctor Who Expierienced it.
    It is not one of those ,not so unusual, out of the body expieriences. He has known patients of his own who has had that.A book will be published about it too, by Simon & &”

    I would like to post hereafter the link to the website of Anita Moorjani. I discovered about 2 months ago, because she knows Dr. Dyer, who, as we all know, said some positive things about Michael, and dedicated one of his books to Michael (“Real Magic”). Her story makes me constantly think about Michael.
    There are many interviews with Anita when you search her name in YouTube.
    I find it very interesting, and must say that I am pretty much going in that direction, what (magically) started… on June 25, 2009.


  54. October 22, 2012 11:53 pm

    “The News Week article is in the Oct.15:th 2012 nr.,By Dr. Eben Alexander.An academic neurosurgeon,Harvard Medical School and other universities.The name of the article is;MY PROOF OF HEAVEN.” – kaarin

    The doctor’s experience is a huge breakthrough in our understanding of reality, who we are and what is awaiting us. I’ve just read it, it is here:

    Michael is over there now. However I doubt that Gutierrez will get there. His dirty earthly deeds will probably never let him rise to so high a realm:

    Higher than the clouds—immeasurably higher—flocks of transparent, shimmering beings arced across the sky, leaving long, streamerlike lines behind them.

    Birds? Angels? These words registered later, when I was writing down my recollections. But neither of these words do justice to the beings themselves, which were quite simply different from anything I have known on this planet. They were more advanced. Higher forms.

    A sound, huge and booming like a glorious chant, came down from above, and I wondered if the winged beings were producing it. Again, thinking about it later, it occurred to me that the joy of these creatures, as they soared along, was such that they had to make this noise—that if the joy didn’t come out of them this way then they would simply not otherwise be able to contain it. The sound was palpable and almost material, like a rain that you can feel on your skin but doesn’t get you wet.

    Seeing and hearing were not separate in this place where I now was. I could hear the visual beauty of the silvery bodies of those scintillating beings above, and I could see the surging, joyful perfection of what they sang. It seemed that you could not look at or listen to anything in this world without becoming a part of it—without joining with it in some mysterious way.

    The riddle of it from the point of view of science:

    All the chief arguments against near-death experiences suggest that these experiences are the results of minimal, transient, or partial malfunctioning of the cortex. My near-death experience, however, took place not while my cortex was malfunctioning, but while it was simply off. This is clear from the severity and duration of my meningitis, and from the global cortical involvement documented by CT scans and neurological examinations. According to current medical understanding of the brain and mind, there is absolutely no way that I could have experienced even a dim and limited consciousness during my time in the coma, much less the hyper-vivid and completely coherent odyssey I underwent.

    The doctor’s conclusion:

    “Today many believe that the living spiritual truths of religion have lost their power, and that science, not faith, is the road to truth. Before my experience I strongly suspected that this was the case myself.

    But I now understand that such a view is far too simple. The plain fact is that the materialist picture of the body and brain as the producers, rather than the vehicles, of human consciousness is doomed. In its place a new view of mind and body will emerge, and in fact is emerging already. This view is scientific and spiritual in equal measure and will value what the greatest scientists of history themselves always valued above all: truth.

    This new picture of reality will take a long time to put together. It won’t be finished in my time, or even, I suspect, my sons’ either. In fact, reality is too vast, too complex, and too irreducibly mysterious for a full picture of it ever to be absolutely complete. But in essence, it will show the universe as evolving, multi-dimensional, and known down to its every last atom by a God who cares for us even more deeply and fiercely than any parent ever loved their child.

    I’m still a doctor, and still a man of science every bit as much as I was before I had my experience. But on a deep level I’m very different from the person I was before, because I’ve caught a glimpse of this emerging picture of reality. And you can believe me when I tell you that it will be worth every bit of the work it will take us, and those who come after us, to get it right.”

    The message the doctor heard there :

    The message had three parts, and if I had to translate them into earthly language, I’d say they ran something like this:
    “You are loved and cherished, dearly, forever.”
    “You have nothing to fear.”
    “There is nothing you can do wrong.”
    The message flooded me with a vast and crazy sensation of relief. It was like being handed the rules to a game I’d been playing all my life without ever fully understanding it.

    I am lost for words.


  55. October 23, 2012 1:54 am

    Victor Guitirrez is a coldblooded psychopath who has dedicated his lifework to character assasinate Michael. He is as guilty as Murray. I keep the last picture of Murray’s trial, a photo taken of his lower back ,where you can see the handcuffs. My hope is to see the same on Victor Guitirrez. Murray committed 2-3 months to gross malpractice on Michael. Guitirrez – decades, his life. He is just as guilty. It is an abomination that journalists don´t need to be licensed. Why is there not an American Board of Licensed Journalists? This no way means that they be totally silenced. But the most heinous psychological stalking via press and TV would be prohibited.


  56. October 23, 2012 2:02 am

    Like a gift from heaven, just as I had written the comment below (I have the night TV on,a mix. of music and news) the sweetest Michael Jackson song comes on: The girl is mine. Yes she is, the world is yours!


  57. Truth Prevail permalink
    October 24, 2012 1:14 am


    Thank you for that letter I hope that scumbag knows his own country men hate him too.


  58. aldebaranredstar permalink
    October 25, 2012 5:23 am

    I am wondering what VG did to support himself all those years in LA from 84 to the time he started to get money from the tabloids, people like DD. Did he sell stories to the tabloids? How did he bankroll his ‘investigations’? Did someone else bankroll him? His employment is very sketchy, yet he was able to go around stirring up all this trouble.


  59. Greet permalink
    October 25, 2012 8:58 pm

    Thank you helen a for the link. I will surely read as much as I can about this.
    I read your post and it seems like a very similar experience that had Anita Moorjani.
    Michael talked about the music of the spheres…
    Did he know more than we ?
    Prince (Purple rain) said something like that in a vid…. “Michael might know something none of us really know.. let’s wait it out, let’s just wait it out”And, Prince knows a lot too…. remember he predicted and warned for the the 9/11disaster ?

    Sometimes I have the feeling too that Michael knew more. Such a special man….

    Sorry this is off topic, but, well, VG is surely showing himself from the worst side. Maybe we should have some mercy on him, at least try to let hate not destroy ourselves. But OOOOh, am I angry on him.


  60. Truth Prevail permalink
    October 25, 2012 9:12 pm


    Cool how did Prince predict 9/11?

    Did he mention it in a song?


  61. Greet permalink
    October 26, 2012 1:29 am

    I remember that or he sang it or said it in a concert in Holland, maybe I can find it back (Google). At the time I did not pay much attention to it. But after seeing the vid about Michael, I thought it could be important. It was not that he said what would happen, but he warned there would be an attack. Will try to find out exactly though.


  62. Greet permalink
    October 26, 2012 1:32 am

    Here it is :


  63. Truth Prevail permalink
    October 26, 2012 2:08 am


    Oh that i have already seen thanks for providing the video anyway.


  64. October 31, 2012 11:00 pm

    “Nabokov wrote “Lolita”. He says he is writing about a monster and there exists not a family more miserable than what he writes about”.

    Kaarin, you cannot imagine how very much to the point was your comment on Nabokov. I haven’t read Lolita though the author is Russian (I had my prejudices against him), but since you say he portrays the main character as a monster I realize that I was wrong. And now I have also found a very good review of Nabokov’s Lolita by a Chilean literary critic who says that Lolita was written not by a pedophile and argues about it with … Victor Gutierrez.

    Our ever-present Victor Gutierrez has read the novel and calls Nabokov names, but I am not surprised – pedophiles regard almost every piece of fiction about children as pedophilia. Professor Kincaid (who supported Tom O’Carroll’s book) also “proves” in his lectures that the Victorian literature is full of it.

    This is a very characteristic trait of real pedophiles – they recommend to each other books about children by this and that author as if they are written by ped-les. And Victor Gutierrez is no different. He sees in all those books what others do not. Kaarin did not see anything like that in Nabokov and the Chilean critic does not either, while Gutierrez sees pedophilia on every page of it.

    It is also very interesting that in his own book about MJ Victor Gutierrez speaks of the alleged ped-lia as a normal thing, while Nabokov shows its full abnormality and uses black humor to portray the phenomenon. This is where the big difference is – one speaks of it as normal, while the other sees it as a monstrosity.

    Here are some pieces from the literary review (computer translated from Spanish):

    Nabokov, pedophilia and Víctor Gutiérrez
    by Omar Pérez
    November-December 2003 (excerpts)

    A warm night Friday. Research seminar in the Parron of Providence. Unavoidable topic: pedophilia. Someone says that journalist Víctor Gutiérrez said on Chilevision that Vladimir Nabokov, an immigrant aristocrat who created Lolita (1955), was a child molester. We agree that Gutierrez is confused. Nabokov was never a pederast.

    We leave El Parrón with writer Jorge Calvo and go to the bar Liguria. Oddly, we come across Víctor Gutiérrez. Obviously, Calvo could not resist asking – you said on TV that Nabokov was a child molester?
    -Yes, says Gutierrez, he is.
    -You’re wrong, Nabokov is not pederast.
    -Yes, he is, says Gutierrez.

    The journalist makes a mistake, a slip common to those who see literature with eyes of a hygienic critic..

    The brightness of Vladimir Vladimirovich Nabokov was discreet until the publication of his novel Lolita (1955). Rejected by American Publishers, finally it was printed in Paris by Maurice Girodias, editor of Samuel Beckett, Jean Genet and William S. Burroughs. The novel went unnoticed until Graham Greene in the London Times included it in January 1956 between “the three best of the year”. Three years later, it was published in United States. It sold three editions in four days and a hundred thousand books in three weeks. A legend was born. A modest Professor Nabokov became a literary star, Playboy and The New Yorker stash.

    The novel is about a 12 year old girl, Dolores Haze, known as Lolita, who loses her widowed mother in a car accident and falls into the hands of her stepfather, who abuses her over a few months, while they cross the United States by car. Nabokov created an archetype, half silly, simple and kitsch, able to annihilate the sad Satyr, Humbert Humbert. The man saw a magical creature in a vain schoolgirl. The nínfula only existed in the imagination of Humbert. The lineage of the novel is irony, black humor, wordplay, the use of detail, the clinical eye, in short, it is a platform for verbal and novelistic acrobatics.

    Nabokov was tired of declaring that he had nothing to do with the professor who fell for a girl of 12 years. Fiction is fiction. The project began one day “when I was bedridden by an intercostal neuralgia”. Nabokov said: “Lolita is not a perverse girl.” It’s a poor girl who was corrupted, and whose senses never came to awaken under the caresses of the unclean Mr Humbert.

    From time to time a novel is being questioned, not for its literary quality, but because it touches on banned topics.

    On the other hand, and beyond the literature, these troubled years have shown that child abuse is a reality. Real child abuse, not simulated, reached around the world causing public alarm. The ‘agenda’ social (and sometimes political) was filled with this topic everywhere. This is serious, leedores friends: one million poor children are today forced into prostitution (4,000 Chilean children according to SENAME). Not only that. There are 40 million children who will break their backbone working in the world. 40 million children. That is the real disappointment that no one can circumvent and about which we need to raise our voice…. In this Víctor Gutiérrez can have, unfortunately, reason.

    But as far as we know Victor Gutierrez is not raising his voice against the sad reality! No, he justifies it in his book and even says with some hope (in Peretti’s film) – “Who knows, probably these relations will be accepted in a hundred years?”


  65. Susannerb permalink
    November 1, 2012 1:29 pm

    A great find, Helena. VG’s whole life seems to pivot on p…lia.


  66. November 3, 2012 8:05 am

    I wonder what Gutierrez would do if someone did to him what he did to Michael. Not just aided in the allegations but the stalking him. Suppose someone followed him for years and spoke to everyone that he spoke to? I wonder just what his reaction would be.


  67. Suparna Goswami permalink
    April 18, 2019 7:08 pm

    Excellent post! Thanks Helena. This must be shared in the wake of ‘Leaving Neverland’.


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