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COREY FELDMAN’S TAPES about Michael Jackson, Jon Grissom, Sergeant Deborah Linden and other characters

January 13, 2018

Corey Feldman and family in March 1990 (age 19)

Last month Corey Feldman discovered in his garage the copies of tapes made during his interview at the Santa Barbara Sheriff department in December 1993.

Corey was 22 years old then and was interviewed by Sergeant Deborah Linden and Detective Russell Birchim during their investigation of Michael Jackson.

As soon as Corey revealed that he had the recordings containing the names of his abusers, the Santa Barbara Sheriff department immediately acknowledged that they had also found them and were ready to pass them over to the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD).

Previously they denied they ever had them and made the following comment:

“We are aware of the statements that Mr. Feldman is making regarding an investigation in 1993. Our records do not indicate that he named any suspects.”

So they did have some written records, but there was no word there about Corey naming his abusers. Interesting, but in the light of the events that followed this wording may sound even formally correct because it wasn’t actually Corey who did it.

Apparently, Corey Feldman had not listened to those tapes for a long time himself. When he recently heard them again, besides the proof that he had told the police about his molester Jon Grissom and they completely ignored his complaint, he also found something there that made him sure that Michael Jackson had been framed up.

We haven’t heard the full tape and Corey Feldman is yet to unravel the whole mystery, but even at this stage we can try and look for the tips that brought Corey to the conclusion about a set-up – the conclusion we also share irrespective of what he found.

The only pieces of Corey’s tape available to us are the short clips played on Dr. Oz’s show on December 11, 2017 and these are only small fragments of the original recording. Dr. Oz’s website has a video of his show broken into ten episodes. Two of them are a teaser and some advertisements, but the remaining ones will be transcribed here with only some bits illegible to me left out (in case you can fill in the blanks, please do).

So let’s listen to those clips together to see if we can fish out anything new there.

The first clip is a trailer that starts directly with Dr. Oz and Corey Feldman discussing Jon Grissom who was the one who molested Corey when he was a teenager.

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COREY FELDMAN: ….And that’s what you are trained to do in Hollywood. When there is a problem you keep it to yourself, keep your mouth shut – that is the conditioning of the system. It’s systemic, it happened then, it happens now, looks at what’s going on in the press. This is what we are talking about.

DR.OZ: Did you feel at any point when you were dealing with the police that your long nightmare is going to be over?

FELDMAN: I literally thought, okay, they must be investigating him, because they mentioned it – “Look, you have to file a formal report if you want this to be investigated”. And I said, “Okay, let’s do it”. But they never did…

DR.OZ: But they never clarified that they were actually interested in Jon Grissom?

FELDMAN: No. (pause) They weren’t interested in Jon Grissom.

DR.OZ: I want to point out to everybody right now. I’ve been hammering on this theme, but to me evil happens when good people don’t see bad people don’t stop that’s evil and stop it. So how I understand had Santa Barbara detectives followed up maybe Corey Feldman’s alleged abuser Jon Grissom could have been investigated, maybe they could have been protected from other types of child abuse and the point is, in 2001, that is almost 20 years after – God knows what happened during those 20 years – in 2001 Jon Grissom was arrested for lewd acts with a minor and for oral copulation with a minor. Twenty years more of abuse and we can’t have him found out.

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FELDMAN: So the fact that he has got to come at me like that and say: “… We’ve never been down this road before”, and when this came out – that he was himself a predator – oh God, it made perfect sense to me. He is the problem. Not him, but he epitomizes the problem, which is that these powerful men, the way he behaved is a perfect example of the hierarchy and the mental abuse, the shaming and the power play of “I’m bigger than you. I am in a position that I can put you down and I can squash you and I can make you feel like what you have to say is worthless.”  That’s what it’s about! And that’s exactly how these predators get over on these victims. That’s exactly how. To a tee.

DR.OZ: So we’ve just uncovered the lost tapes from 1993 of Corey reporting the name of one of his abusers to the Santa Barbara detectives.  When these tapes became publicly known that they are actually still in existence, there were many news reports that you’d been vindicated. That was the word – vindicated. What do you think? Do you think you have been exonerated?

FELDMAN: Not yet. Not yet. Vindication will come when my best friend’s perpetrators are behind bars, when the people that molested me are behind bars and when my good friend Michael Jackson is fully exonerated in the public opinion because he was never a predator. (applause)

DR.OZ: And your best friend was Corey Haim. So Corey Haim has his perpetrator to be taken down, same for the people who’ve abused you, and Michael Jackson.

FELDMAN: Michael Jackson needs to be cleared. Once and for all. And I believe this could eventually lead to.

DR.OZ: So for the first time ever you are about to hear Corey telling police about his abuse. Take a listen.

Corey Feldman: Oh I’ve been, I mean, I’ve been a victim of molestation.

Detective Birchim: Then you know what I’m talking about.

Corey Feldman:  I know exactly what you’re talking about.

Detective Birchim: You feel guilty, you feel horrible and, uh…

Sgt. Deborah Linden: You feel like it was your fault and …

DR.OZ: The fact that these words were even spoken is shocking because they were called into doubt until this week. We are going to dig deeper, way deeper in Corey’s lost tapes. Up next for the first time ever we are revealing what the tapes really say.

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FELDMAN (about Michael Jackson): He is not a sexual person! It doesn’t even come across a conversation with him!

DR.OZ: So, I want everyone to listen carefully to what Corey told them during their investigation of Michael Jackson. These are your words – 25 years ago.

Corey Feldman: Believe me, the person who molested me, if this was him, you know, that did that to me, then this would be a different story because I would be out there up front, you know, doing something immediately to have this man, uh, given the… what was due to him.

DR.OZ: I’ll be fair to everyone. Santa Barbara’s Sheriff Department has confirmed they’ve found the 1993 tapes. They have not confirmed that Corey’s copies of them are the same ones, but we are confident that they are.

FELDMAN: That’s only one interview.

DR.OZ: So Corey in 1993 is telling the Santa Barbara detectives that it’s not Michael Jackson. It’s actually someone else. And you know it’s not Michael Jackson because you know what molestation is about, you lived it.

FELDMAN: There were several people. I was molested by a couple of guys.

DR.OZ: There was one person in particular that they bring up on these tapes.  It is Jon Grissom who was one of your abusers. Take a listen.

(Even now Corey gets visibly tense and breathless when he hears himself reporting Jon Grissom to the detectives).

Sgt. Deborah Linden: Um, the information that we got was that Jon Grissom was your assistant. And that when Michael started paying a lot of attention to you, that he would get angry and jealous, basically, because you were hanging out with Michael, and not with him.

Corey Feldman: Hmm, um…..

Sgt. Deborah Linden: Did I hit a sore spot? Hahaha

Corey Feldman: Um, I, first of all, I knew Michael long before I knew Jon Grissom. And, Jon Grissom was the guy who molested me.

Sgt. Deborah Linden: Mmm.

Corey Feldman: So, I don’t know where you got the facts from. But, I mean, they’re kind of messed up. But Jon Grissom, you know, was the guy who molested me. And he, um, I’m, I’m sure he probably was jealous of how much I respected Michael and how much I hung around Michael.

And, if, in fact, he may have thought anything was going on with Michael, I could imagine how a sick person like that would think, and would think that, you know….

Sgt. Deborah Linden: How old were you when that happened?

Corey Feldman: Fifteen. Um, and, uh….

Sgt. Deborah Linden: You know, you don’t have to, we’re not asking you to tell us about it.

FELDMAN (raising his arms): What more needs to be said? But there is one more thing I must quickly say that I was incorrect – I was fifteen the first time he molested me, but this went on for a year and a half. I just want to state that really quickly.

 

So this is what it is.

Corey Feldman didn’t remember it then, but realizes it now that it was the police who raised the name of Jon Grissom and that it was this pedophile who shared with them his valuable views on Corey’s friendship with Michael Jackson.

And surely his story wasn’t anything favorable to Michael. Sergeant Deborah Linden misinterpreted Corey’s silence imagining that she “hit a sore point” and laughed, as if thinking that she caught him off his guard and now Corey would not be able to deny anything.

And she was so engrossed in her own preconceptions about Jackson that she didn’t even realize that it was totally abnormal for a teenager’s assistant to be “jealous” of him, and that all the questions she was asking about MJ should have been asked about Grissom instead.

What was the reaction of Sgt. Deborah Linden when she heard that Corey was only fifteen at the time Grissom molested him?

She said: “We are not asking you to tell us about it”.

And why wasn’t she asking?

The obvious answer to that is not what you thought (that she wanted to spare Corey’s feelings) – nothing of the kind. There was no sympathy for Corey and his sore wounds. They continued to relentlessly grill him over Jackson and even after making the unpleasant discovery about Grissom Sgt. Deborah Linden simply laughed the matter off.  So the reason they didn’t ask is because they didn’t want to hear it as they were on the hunt for Michael Jackson only.

However if the police had asked Corey they would have learned some very interesting details – for example, about the circumstances under which the boy turned to Michael Jackson for help.

By that moment he had already known Michael for a long time, but he grew much closer to him when his life became totally unbearable. This moment was again incorrectly interpreted by Sgt. Deborah Linden as the time when “Michael Jackson started paying a lot of attention to Corey” meaning something sinister, while in fact it was the time when Corey was saved from further abuse.

Corey Feldman describes the moment in his book “Coreyography”:

It got so bad that after fleeing Ron’s clutches one night only to have another adult male friend attempt to molest him right after, he escaped to the only safe and friendly place he knew.

“I was shattered, disgusted, devastated. I needed some normalcy in my life. So, I called Michael Jackson,” he writes. “Michael Jackson’s world, crazy as it sounds, had become my happy place. Being with Michael brought me back to my innocence. When I was with Michael, it was like being 10 years old again.”

https://nypost.com/2013/10/19/the-childhood-hell-of-the-lost-boys/

Ron Crimson is a pseudonym used in the book for Jon Grissom. Now it becomes clear why Grissom was “angry” and “jealous” of Michael Jackson. Corey had just broken free from the people who were abusing him for months and escaped to the only safe place he knew. However Grissom’s twisted mind allowed for only one interpretation of Corey’s flee to Michael Jackson – that the boy preferred a new man to his previous (boy)lover, and hence the feeling of “jealousy” towards him.

And this once again explains the mindset of pedophiles who circled around Michael spreading stick stories about him. It is just an umpteenth reminder of the fact that these stories reflected their own assumptions about MJ and their own ideas of a friendship with a teenager.

I’ve always thought that what they did to children was assumed by them about Michael Jackson and this is what it really was – they attributed their own motives and sexual interests to a man who didn’t have them. They couldn’t even imagine that Corey’s association with Michael Jackson was a simple friendship with no sexual element to it. They themselves knew no such thing.

And it was in this sick manner that these people shared their views about MJ with the police. In one more clip of Corey Feldman’s tape, earlier aired by Celebrity Justice, there is a very specific episode where Detective Russell Birchim tries to impose on Corey Feldman what is essentially a pedophile’s way of thinking. He keeps telling them “Nothing happened” and they keep replying “You simply don’t understand”.

By the way if this was how the police talked to all other alleged victims, it is no wonder that Jason Francia, for example, finally gave in. He was pressed by the police so hard that at some point wanted “to strike them with something heavy on the head”. However after several interviews like that he did manage to recall three cases of “tickling”. It was nothing much, but still a tiny allegation to support their Jordan Chandler flimsy case against Michael Jackson.

Here is the way the police shook Corey Feldman for the information they wanted:

Corey: “Nothing ever happened with Michael.”

Sgt. Deborah Linden: “What concerns me about it is that if there is something happening, if something did happen that you’re not telling us, is that you wouldn’t because of that.”

Corey: “No. I can’t put myself in the position of thinking “Would I or wouldn’t I?” because nothing happened!”

Detective Birchim: “We hear a lot of stuff about how Michael would never hurt any children. Of course he wouldn’t. He loves kids, he’s not gonna hurt them…not physically. I don’t think if Michael’s molesting kids, he’s doing it because he wants to hurt them. He’s doing it because he loves them.”

Police officers pressed on Corey Feldman their own ideas about Michael Jackson

And though some were confused as a result of such interviews Corey Feldman wasn’t – he had gone through molestation himself and knew the difference:

 “I’ve told the police. I sat there and gave them the names,” he said. “They’re on record. They have all of this information, but they were scanning Michael Jackson. Michael was innocent, and that was what the interview was about with the police. I told him, ‘He is not that guy.’ They said, ‘Well, maybe you just don’t understand your friend.’

I said, ‘No, I know the difference between pedophiles and somebody who’s not a pedophile because I’ve been molested. Here’s the names. Go investigate.'”

http://toofab.com/2017/12/11/corey-feldman-dr-oz-hollywood-pedophile-corey-haim-jon-grissom/

On Dr. Oz’s show Corey Feldman repeated it once again – Michael Jackson didn’t come across as a sexual person at all as that kind of stuff was never even raised between them.

 

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DR.OZ: So you on tape are telling authorities that it’s not Michael Jackson, because you know what abuse is like (“Abuse is this, I lived it as Jon Grissom”) and they don’t seem to react to it at that time.

FELDMAN: Here is the thing. I actually thought they were investigating Jon! I thought, because they brought that up, “Oh, wow, this is bigger than just Michael. They know what Jon did too, and that’s why this line of questioning is happening.”

I swear to God, that’s where my head was right at that moment. That’s why I stammered the way I did, because I was like, “Oh-oh-oh, so it is getting into my situation… Okay, well then, I’d better give them all the information they need”.

DR.OZ: Why would they even think about Jon Grissom? Why did Jon Grissom get into the picture?

FELDMAN: That’s a really good question.

DR.OZ: Was he accusing Michael Jackson? Perhaps he was? He was saying they’ve got to check…

FELDMAN: This guy is a predator.  Let’s just say it – he was probably in love with me, in his sick and twisted mind… because I was also told around that time that he was going around telling people that I was his boy friend, which means that not only was it real, but that he was acknowledging it to other people without me knowing.

So why isn’t any justice being done? And why are you trying to put my friend in jail who’s never harmed a fly and yet you have this information and you are not doing anything about it? What the heck is really going on here? And I am still asking that question.

DR.OZ: Watch out what happens next. More of these forgotten audio tapes. You’re going to be hearing them right now for the first time. 

At this point a lot more questions need to be asked.

How was it possible for Jon Grissom to go about telling everyone he had a fifteen year old boyfriend, openly acknowledge it and no one cared, paid attention or informed the police?

And how did the reverse happen – that it was a child molester Grissom who was informing the police of his ideas about Jackson?

And why did the police brush aside Corey’s story when he was ready to give them everything he knew about Grissom?

The little we know of Jon Grissom is that he is a convicted sex offender arrested in 2001 and now wanted by the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation for skipping an offenders programme. A few more details are provided by this website:

  • Grissom had been a family friend before being elevated to a role as Corey Feldman’s assistant. Feldman also wrote of Crimson, via the New York Post, “It was almost eerie how similar we were. It was as if he had studied me and was copying my every move.”
  • Grissom was the one who introduced the boy to cocaine and crack, and sexually assaulted him after treating him to a concoction of pills.
  • Grissom has a MySpace page that shows photos of him with Corey Feldman during the 1980s. On Dr. Oz, Feldman said, “This guy, on his MySpace page and his Facebook page, has pictures of me and Corey Haim. He still taunts it and flaunts it.”
  • Grissom’s Facebook page, says that he now lives in Mexico. In November 2016, Grissom also shared a photo of Feldman on his page.
  • Online records show that Grissom has record for performing lewd or lascivious acts with a child aged 14 or 15 years old. Those records for Grissom give his full name as Cloyd Jon Grissom. The arrest took place in 2001 and saw Grissom serve time in 2003.
  • Grissom was also arrested in Utah for an unknown crime in 1995. In 2000 Grissom spent three months in prison in Arizona for credit card theft, unlawful means of transportation and resisting arrest.

Jon Grissom’s selfie

So Jon Grissom has quite a record and has not amended his ways as is clear from the half-naked selfies posted by him on the social media together with the old photos of him and the two Coreys.

What also caught my eye is that before becoming Corey’s assistant Grissom was a family friend who tried to copy each of Corey’s moves so that their similarity became almost eerie.

This reminded me of things Michael Jackson’s haters constantly claimed about him – only as usual, the situation with MJ was exactly the opposite.

When a child is a fan of someone it is natural for him to try and copy his idol’s style, clothes and moves (some grown-up people even turn this imitation into their profession).

But in case of pedophiles it is them who copy their victims’ behavior and pretend that they share the same interests and like the same things in order to convince the child that they are their soul brothers and best friends.

The Santa Barbara police and DA tried to squeeze Michael Jackson into that pattern, however he absolutely didn’t fit. It was ridiculous to hear them accuse Michael of children trying to imitate him in their clothes and behaviour. Don’t all fans do the same – old and young alike?

Same with the stories about drugs and “plying children with alcohol”. Michael made it a point never to drink when kids were around him and if he did, he used soft drink cans to hide the fact that it was wine.

As to drugs, they were absolutely out of the question. Corey Feldman said about it to Huffington Post:

“He was a guy who was so innocent, so kind of sheltered, you couldn’t even swear around him. You couldn’t talk about drugs, you couldn’t talk about nude women, you couldn’t talk about sex. You couldn’t talk about anything, because he was a very religious man for much of the early stages of his life and career.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/01/feldman-michael-jackson_n_4191548.html

In short, the name of “the proverbial Victorian old maid” given to him by McCauley Culkin’s father was just the right word for Michael Jackson, at least in the 1990s.

Compare it with Jon Grissom and see the difference. However it was this pedophile that the police were listening to while investigating Michael Jackson and not the other way about.

We don’t know when and how the police came into contact with Grissom, but the timeline of his relations with Corey Feldman provides some food for thought.

Corey Feldman was born in 1971 and his molestation started when he was 15. It lasted for a year and a half, after which Corey hasn’t seen Grissom again. We learn of the approximate time Corey saw Grissom last from this article:

Insisting (as he would be asked to do repeatedly down the road) that it was not Michael Jackson who had molested him, Feldman said it was his former assistant, someone he hadn’t seen since 1986, and he found the whole experience “just kind of bewildering. Despite what people think, I was actually very innocent and very naive at the time. I was your typical American kid.”

http://www.eonline.com/news/890284/lost-boys-the-history-of-corey-feldman-and-corey-haim-s-friendship-from-teen-stardom-to-tragedy

The year 1987 would probably be more accurate, but whether 86 or 87 it doesn’t make much difference.  What is really important is that by December 1993 when Corey Feldman’s tape was made by the Santa Barbara sheriff department Corey hadn’t seen Grissom for six or seven years.

And this makes us wonder when the police talked to Grissom.

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DR.OZ: Today we hear lost investigation tapes from Corey Feldman revealing that he told authorities about his sexual abuse back in 1993 like he has been saying all along. We’ve been able to uncover them for the first time.

And I want everyone to hear another portion of the interview where Santa Barbara detectives who had called Corey into questioning about the Michael Jackson case. What you are about to hear caught my attention. During the interview the detectives came back to Corey’s claim that he was molested and they asked him point blank about his alleged abuser Jon Grissom.

Sgt. Deborah Linden: Did anything happen with him?

Corey Feldman: What do you mean? No. I never pressed charges.

Sgt. Deborah Linden: Never. Did you ever report it?

Corey Feldman: No. but, uh, I mean, I should have, but I was so… I was so… like those feelings you say, I was so scared and I didn’t know, he was like my best friend, you know. And I didn’t know how to, I mean, I couldn’t even look at him in the eye the next day you know.  I would always have to pretend it didn’t happen. I mean, that was my big thing, I would pretend it didn’t happen.”

Later in the interview

Sgt. Deborah Linden: Where is the guy now?

Corey Feldman: I have no idea.  Um, actually I heard he is back in California, because he was in Utah for a while.

Sgt. Deborah Linden: If we run across him, we’ll let you know. Hahahahaha.


FELDMAN: Hahaha. Funny stuff!

DR.OZ: It’s the laugh that really threw me off. It’s… it’s eerie.

FELDMAN: It’s evil.

DR.OZ: We completely missed what I think should have been heard. So we all listened to the tape. Corey Feldman gave it to us. Investigators didn’t ask him if he wanted to formally report to the LAPD where the abuse occurred.

After they stopped the recording did anyone follow up with you later on? Did they ever say you want to talk to the LAPD? “This is how you do it, we’ll pass it along”?

FELDMAN: Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Here is my point. Okay, all they would have had to do is call up any local dispatch and say, “We got a live one here, this kid’s been molested by multiple people, we need to investigate this case, please come down and get the report.” And then we wouldn’t be sitting and talking about this today.

DR.OZ: There are so many questions to ask you. When you were sitting there as a 21 year- old boy, a child still from my perspective, although you are legally a man, you are still …

FELDMAN: Oh, I was very much a kid. I’m still not in a total way… but that’s another story.

DR.OZ: ….And they laugh it off! How does that make you feel? What did you think was happening?

FELDMAN: You understand that I was confused. Again, go back to my mindset. Michael Jackson representing everything positive in my life at the moment – he was the big brother I never had, and you know, the biggest thing he is interested in is “So what happened at school? Tell me about the bullies. Tell me about this”. Because he knew that I needed that. I needed somebody to talk to because he went through the same stuff and he knew what it was like to have your life under a microscope and the press and all the stuff, and you can’t talk to anybody, because your parents say, “Don’t talk to anybody”. And that’s what you are trained to do in Hollywood. When there is a problem you keep it to yourself. You keep your mouth shut.

~

“If we run across him, we’ll let you know, hahaha”……. What a cynical way to behave to a sex abuse survivor who has just brought himself to share his devastating secret. And what a disappointment it must have been for Corey to slowly realize that they did not even intend to do anything about it, judging by their laugh and careless manner.

But let’s pay attention to one more detail.

  • Sgt. Deborah Linden brought up the name of Jon Grissom herself and said they had information from him about Michael Jackson.
  • And now we find that in December 1993 they had no idea where their source was and even asked Corey Feldman about it.
  • But Corey hadn’t seen Grissom for six or seven years either, and said he heard Grissom had been in Utah for some time, but “now he is back in California”.
  • However the police didn’t know that he was in California (otherwise they wouldn’t be asking) and this makes us wonder – when did they talk to Grissom? And was it in 1993 at all?

You probably understand why the exact date of Grissom’s revelations is important – if that notable conversation with the police took place before September 1993, it means that Grissom was spreading his stories about MJ before the Chandler allegations.

And if this is the case, it won’t be anything new to us. The same was done by two more people who smeared Michael Jackson’s name for years without him ever suspecting it.

Victor Gutierrez, a self-confessed NAMBLA attendee

The first is Victor Gutierrez, a self-confessed NAMBLA attendee and Diane Dimond’s “best source”, who was spreading lies about Jackson at least from 1989, and wrote a book in collaboration with Jordan Chandler’s father presenting Michael Jackson’s friendship with Jordan as “love”. You can clearly hear this interpretation echoed by Detective Birchim who tried to convince Corey Feldman of the same.

Rodney Allen received a life sentence

The second pedophile working against Michael Jackson for years too was Rodney Allen, now a convicted sex offender serving his life sentence in a Canadian prison. Surprisingly, Rodney Allen was also in close contact with Diane Dimond, bombarding her with letters and allegations against Michael Jackson. In 1995 her correspondence with Allen brought her to Canada where Rodney Allen coached a boy to present himself as Michael’s “victim”, however the fraud was uncovered by the Canadian police, and in the absence of a victim Diane Dimond had to report Rodney Allen’s failure instead.

What’s interesting is that Rodney Allen had also something to do with the 1993 case and was in contact with the Santa Barbara District Attorney Tom Sneddon. We know it from the court documents for the 2005 trial which contain a paper where Sneddon left a mysterious note on a proposed list of prosecution witnesses that “this time” Rodney Allen would not be involved – which clearly indicates that the previous time Allen was involved.

And now we hear straight from the horse’s mouth (I mean the Santa Barbara sergeant) that they were in contact with a third pedophile making allegations against Michael Jackson and that was Jon Grissom!

Jon Grissom is now in Mexico

Now look here, folks.

Two pedophiles and one member of a boylover organization who worked against Jackson for years is really too much. Imagining that this could be just a coincidence is simply impossible, so the only other option left to us is that the whole thing was a scam.

What was the purpose of it?

The purpose was to portray Michael Jackson as a child molester.

And how often do you hear of pedophiles working against their own kind?

NEVER heard about it?!

So what other proof of Michael’s innocence do you need?

 

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(partially repeated in the 1st clip)

FELDMAN: That is the conditioning of the system, it is systemic – it happened then, it happens now, look what is going on in the press – this is what we are talking about.

DR.OZ: Did you feel at any point when you were dealing with the police that your long nightmare was going to be over?

FELDMAN:  I literally thought, okay, they must be investigating him, because they mentioned it – “Look, you have to file a formal report if you want this to be investigated”. And I said, “Okay, let’s do it”. But they never did…

DR.OZ:  But they never clarified that they were actually interested in Jon Grissom?

FELDMAN: No (pause). They weren’t interested in Jon Grissom.

DR.OZ: I want just to point out to everybody right now. I’ve been hammering on this theme, but to me evil happens when good people don’t see bad people don’t stop that’s evil and stop it. So how I understand had Santa Barbara detectives followed up maybe Corey Feldman’s alleged abuser Jon Grissom could have been investigated, maybe they could have been protected from other types of child abuse and the point is, in 2001 that is almost 20 years after –and God knows what happened during those 20 years – in 2001 Jon Grissom was arrested for lewd acts with a minor and for oral copulation with a minor. Twenty years more of abuse and we can’t have him found out.

FELDMAN: How about this one? They could have prevented multiple things. I’m sure there are many kids that he took advantage of at that time period and it could have all been prevented.

DR.OZ: How would it have changed your life if they had acted on your accusations?

FELDMAN: Well, I can tell you this much. I wouldn’t be trying to raise money through a campaign to make a movie to tell the truth because I would be making my own movies because my career would not have been shut down when I just finished eighteen number one movies in a row. I had just done eighteen No.1 movies in a row at that point of that interview. There is no reason why I should not have continued my career for ages and ages… I mean I still have a career but it was not what it was then, because I am not in the big A-list blockbusters coming out, you don’t see me in them, I haven’t been in them for a while since pretty much the time of that interview.

DR.OZ: Why do you think the Santa Barbara sheriff department or others who became aware after these discussions, didn’t work to help you? Why do you think the whole thing got shut down?

FELDMAN: You want to know what I really think?

DR.OZ: Your best thought.

FELDMAN: (sighs) I believe that there is a connection, I believe there is a connection to the fact that they were trying to frame him …

DR.OZ: Michael Jackson?

FELDMAN: Frame Michael Jackson and bury the Corey Feldman story. I think there is a connection, all of it. And that connection may have something to do with my other molesters as well.

DR.OZ: I’m speechless. I am sure everyone at home and those in the studio here are too.

Now that we’ve found Corey Feldman’s tapes what’s next? Will this open Corey’s investigation again? And there is another big question – is the reporting system for child sex abuse broken? 

~

Corey Feldman is absolutely right. Of course there is a connection between framing Michael Jackson and burying Corey’s story, both in 1993 and today. This is being done by exactly the same people – those who wanted to frame an innocent man and deflect attention from the real crimes committed towards children like Corey Feldman.

So the very least we can draw from all of the above is that:

1) There is overwhelming evidence that at least three pedophiles were busy smearing Michael Jackson’s reputation in 1993 or even earlier. All of them had a suspiciously free hand in their activities against Jackson and were lent an attentive ear by the police.

2) The Santa Barbara law enforcement officers were preoccupied with Michael Jackson only.

3) And while they were busy with Jackson they overlooked real crimes under their very nose and ignored the complaints of real victims like Corey Feldman and many others.

Just think of how many innocent lives could have been protected from abuse if Sergeant Deborah Linden, Detective Russell Birchim and all others had really done their job – instead of hunting for Michael Jackson after being sent after him by real pedophiles.

 

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DR.OZ: We are back with our exclusive investigation into lost audio tapes revealing Corey Feldman’s first report of sexual abuse to the Santa Barbara sheriff department as he has been claiming all along.

We’ve just listened to parts of those tapes. Now I will ask the big question – what do these tapes mean for investigation into Corey’s abusers? Corey is back along with a team of legal experts – legal expert Beth Karas is here, who is also a former persecutor, and lawyer and advocate for sexual abuse victims Marci Hamilton also joins us.

DR.OZ: And that’s two of the biggest experts sitting down with us.  I want some answers for everyone of us listening in America. So you hear the tapes that are pretty damning. Why wouldn’t they investigate further?

Beth Karas (screenshot)

BETH KARAS: Because these detectives, as appears to me, were completely focused on Michael Jackson. Corey wasn’t giving them what they were hoping. They were hoping to build a case with more, more accusers and they weren’t getting it, and Grissom wasn’t in their jurisdiction. I didn’t know until hearing the recording just now, that the police had his name. I had originally thought Corey gave the police the name. So that’s very curious to me why Grissom was on their radar and they weren’t doing anything with it. But they were focused on Michael Jackson. He was the big fish.

DR.OZ: How was Jon Grissom actually tantalizing them with the belief that Corey had the goods because Corey must be getting abuse from Michael Jackson?

FELDMAN: What about this? What if Grissom was in my life as a set-up all along to try to destroy my career? The same way they were trying to destroy Michael’s career?

BETH KARAS: I can’t really speak to that.

DR.OZ: But you can speak as to the legal and ethical obligations of police, or sheriffs’ in this case, of one jurisdiction sharing information they know, that could not only help the person they are talking to, but generations on of kids that were harmed as a result of them not speaking.

BETH KARAS: I am not aware of the legal obligation to pass on information that’s out of their jurisdiction, but it is the right thing to do and to say, “You need to look at this guy and maybe there are other complaints coming in.” That’s what good detectives do.

FELDMAN: Can I say something? Even in the most recent interview that I did with them – the LAPD – they literally said to me that they should get this report as a separate report regardless of what I said before because that’s got to be with them and they were very clear that if you are in New York and this happened in New York, we are going to set you up with the New York police

BETH KARAS: But that’s now. The climate is different now.

FELDMAN: I see.

BETH KARAS: It is our conscience now that everybody is acting on.

DR.OZ: It’s becoming better. The Santa Barbara’s sheriff department who had the original copies of the 1993 tapes and just found them, told us they gave copies to the LAPD just days ago which the LAPD has confirmed to us. Has the LAPD reached out to you subsequent?

FELDMAN: No, but they are a little busy with the fire going on.

DR.OZ: They are busy – I get all that. But the issue of the statute of limitations comes upon a time and the abuse that we’ve been hearing about from you and others continues to be pardoned, so to speak. And this is a big part of Corey Feldman’s truth campaign.

~

By now we know that the LAPD declined to open an investigation as the statute of limitations had expired and this is why Corey Feldman is now campaigning for abolishing the statute of limitations for cases of child sexual abuse.

And as to what “good detectives do”, but Deborah Linden and Russell Birchim didn’t, I can’t help mentioning the glorious tribute to Linden for her 27 years of work in law enforcement published in connection with her retirement at age 49 in December 2011 from the position of chief of the San Luis Obispo Police.

Deborah Linden

Linden took that job in January 2003 after 18 years with the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department and worked at a new place for 9 years. Her biggest achievement there was:

“….additional laws targeting excessive noise, partying and drinking that have been implemented, leading to a decline in violations such as open containers, noise and urinating in public.”

Sheriff Ian Parkinson, who worked for five years as Linden’s second-in-command, said that her attention to detail and dedication to her employees and the community are some of her strongest assets. “She is very much focused on doing things right and not cutting corners,” he said.

Linden is the second highest-paid employee in the city. She earns $160,394 in salary and an additional $73,821 in benefits, such as retirement and health care. The city manager is the highest-paid employee.

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2011/07/06/1672485/slo-police-chief-deb-linden-to.html#storylink=cpy

And here is more about our hero:

Deborah Linden retires

Linden, who says she’s a “classic workaholic,” plans to retire in late December to spend more time with her family and possibly to teach.

Linden grew up in Northern California before attending UC Santa Barbara as an aquatic biology major, a far cry from law enforcement. Linden graduated from college in early 1984 and started working that same year as a deputy with the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department. She stayed with the department in various capacities until she was selected nine years ago for the position of San Luis Obispo police chief.

Linden said she had a “great time and a wonderful career” in Santa Barbara County.

“I’m been blessed with some amazing, amazing opportunities,” she added.

Jim Peterson, undersheriff at the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department, has known Linden since they were college students together some 30 years ago.

“I already knew back then she was one of the most organized people I ever knew,” he said. While working with the Sheriff’s Department, Linden would complete projects in a way that exceeded all expectations, Peterson said.

She is also looking forward to having more time with her husband, who is retired from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department.

http://santamariatimes.com/news/local/slo-police-chief-hanging-up-her-badge/article_1d9f3da4-bcd6-11e0-91c0-001cc4c002e0.html

“Projects that exceeded all expectations”, “one of the most organized people”, “a classic workaholic”, “very much focused on doing things right”, “her attention to detail”, etc. etc.

How ridiculous all of it sounds in comparison with her total indifference towards a child sex abuse survivor, her cynical laughter in response to his complaints and promises to “let him know” in case they “came across” his abuser – quite by chance of course, since they didn’t even intend to follow up his case.

In fact she didn’t even bother to go back to their records of Grissom talking about Corey Feldman and MJ and note there that Grissom could be a child molester himself.

As to “the amazing opportunities she was blessed with” she did have them, but they were all lost while she overlooked the real crimes and didn’t prevent child tragedies, focusing on big things like urinating in public instead.

 

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(In this final clip Dr. Oz speaks to Marci Hamilton, the CEO of Child USA).

DR.OZ: Let’s go to Marci. You’ve spent a good part of your life crusading around. You are of a view that today’s sex abuse laws are designed to silence the victims. Why is that?

Marci Hamilton (screenshot)

MARCI HAMILTON: Right. We’ve created a legal culture that keeps the victims quiet and keeps the powerful in business. And so our statutes of limitations are orchestrated so a child doesn’t get to the court fast enough. And you were so young, Corey. Even when you were 20 you were still young to come forward. On average it is about age 42 when people are coming forward.

DR.OZ: Really 42?

MARCI HAMILTON: Really. That’s the average age. We’ve set up the system – the assumption was that a child understood what was happening to them was bad and they were going to tell someone, just like a broken leg. If a kid has a broken leg they don’t like to go and hide it, they tell their mom it hurts and they go to the hospital.

But kids don’t understand sex abuse. They can’t process it. And so since they can’t do that it is remains secret, it is in the predator’s interests to keep it secret and frankly, law enforcement has dropped the ball in a lot of cases. Often because they thought the statute of limitations would have expired.

DR.OZ: So let me show you something.

He shows a chart of the states considered worst for predators/best for victims and the states that don’t defend the victims as much as they could. The New York state is among the latter and Dr. Oz asks his viewers to call the New York state majority leader John Flanagan and ask him for help in passing a Child Victims Act. He calls on people to make the change.

DR.OZ: What would it mean to you, Corey, to get all those states lagging behind towards where they need to be in terms of protecting victims?

FELDMAN: Well, it doesn’t even come within measure. I mean, at the end of the day this is a must happen. And it is not about me, it is about all of the kids, it is about our future on this planet. If we are going to sustain as a race we must learn to take care of our children. (applause)

DR.OZ: Corey has been raising money in awareness about sex abuse through his campaign called the truth campaign. What’s the biggest need right now? How can we help?

FELDMAN: The biggest need – we need donations. Quite honestly we need donations. There is a #gofundme which I put up specifically for my security needs, so that I have security guards to protect me and hopefully get some lawyers to protect me. The other one is to make the film which is the film of my life story and it is about truth. Now both of these campaigns have been reported for fraud.

DR.OZ: They have?

FELDMAN: Both of them. By the haters. And let me tell you a little bit about those haters. Many of them, if you follow the thread, if you watch on Twitter, those people are constantly coming at me, giving misinformation, spouting lies, trying to disorient people, trying to even frighten my supporters. We have very vocal, very avid supporters which I call the Feldfam – they are an amazing group of people who are very lovely, incredible people who want to fight for justice, and all of those people, all of those people in the last month for vocally supporting me or for donating to me have been harassed, ridiculed and in some cases threatened. Because they are supporting me. That is not okay.

DR.OZ: You heard it. In many ways that should appeal to you. Take action today. Cause to make the change happen.

FELDMAN: And please donate.

 ~

First of all, let us congratulate Corey on becoming the national ambassador for CHILD USA. Now he and Marci Hamilton’s organisation will work together to hold sexual predators accountable for their crimes.

Secondly, the average age of 42 when victims of child sexual abuse come forward may be perfectly correct. Victims need to realize what their childhood experience was all about, they need time to cope with their trauma and muster all the courage they have to break the silence, not to mention overcoming the fear for their abusers that almost never goes away.

And thirdly, do not allow yourself a temptation to apply this rule to those who claim to be Michael Jackson’s “victims”. All the children who ever associated with Michael Jackson were pushed by the media and public into the victims category by default, despite all their remonstrations. And when you are considered a victim anyway, you require a different kind of courage – to go against the trend and defend the innocent man whose name is being slandered.

And Corey Feldman had and still has this special kind of courage which is a sign of real fortitude and integrity.

In his recent video address called THE TRUTH BEHIND THE TALE, & THE HYPOCRISY OF THE GOLDEN GLOBES…ENOUGH IS ENOUGH Corey spoke about the hypocrisy of Hollywood that supports women in their fight against abusive men, but totally ignores the problem of child sexual abuse as if it is nothing important.

His words will not leave you indifferent.

Corey Feldman (at 9:03):

“I find it a bit hypocritical when Rose McGowan is out there taking the credit for being the person to blow the whistle on this whole thing. And yet, funny enough, I remember an episode in 1998 where she was shaming me, shaming me by making fun of the fact that I would hang out with Michael Jackson and when she tried to imply that I slept with him. And she was making fun of it like “Oh, don’t tell me nothing is going on there”. She was SHAMING me. How is that a ‘hero’? I am pretty sure that I never shamed anybody about such a serious topic. EVER.

I take things lightly sometimes, but when it comes to this topic there is no joking. This is very serious stuff.

Let me just say this much.  All these people got together tonight and put on this façade, this parade that they really care, that they really want to make a difference, that they are listening. I’ve got news for you – I was not invited.  How can you, Hollywood? The same industry I’ve made 18 number one box office films for and started talking about pedophilia and sexual assault within the Hollywood industry all the way back in 1998, talking about my experiences, about how I was molested in Hollywood.

I brought it up with Corey Haim on our TV series, we were bold enough in 2007 to make it a topic of our TV show, so obviously we both had the intention of exposing the truth at that time. 

And you know what happened on the Golden Globes the year when Corey passed away? He was ignored. He was not even mentioned in a memorandum of the Golden Globes or on the Oscars. They both completely pretended he never existed. That’s disgusting.

So they are celebrating that we are all in it together, that we stand for one another and we’ve had enough. But the guy that started it all, the guy who was banging on the doors telling everyone since my interview on ABC where I said that the Number one problem in Hollywood is pedophilia….   I was hoping that people would recognize that I was basically laying my life on the line and ready to take a bullet for the sake of children.

They don’t want to acknowledge me? That’s fine. But you can at least invite me to stand amongst my peers. You don’t have to mention me, I don’t need any credit at all, but for God’s sake have the decency to act like I EXIST.

Enough is enough. I’ve sat quietly for so long and I’ve allowed this abuse to take over on me on so many levels. Many people know it – I’ve been viciously attacked through this campaign by countless people which I now realize are connected to one source.

These people… they are literally trying to damage the work of God.  There is nothing more evil than that.

I get that people don’t know what to believe sometimes. I get that people are sometimes easily misled because they hear one thing, then hear another thing and don’t know what to believe.

There are a lot of people who are working for the dark side. They want you to be confused. The dark is afraid of the truth. They will protect that truth at any cost.  And that means destroying good people.

And that is what happened to MJ. Let us call a spade a spade – MICHAEL JACKSON WAS FRAMED, AS I WAS COVERED UP. The same police did the investigation, those very police covered up… All they needed was to take down Jon Grissom, Alphie Hoffman and the rest of them. They buried that information, that evidence. They never sent it off to the LAPD which was the proper jurisdiction. They never did anything they were supposed to do responsibly. And on top of it they decided to ignore that testimony so that they could go on trying to convince themselves and everybody else that Michael Jackson was a pedophile. I’ve got news for you folks – HE NEVER WAS It was all business. It was the business of them wanting to destroy him. 

There are dark people and dark power on both the left and the right. They are inside both parties. And they are also inside all types of social extremities – from cults to religions, to schools. There are predators in everything.  The dark wants to infiltrate the good things. And they will do whatever it takes to make the victim look like the bad guy.

They will set it up that the victim is a liar, a terrible person, they will discredit him, so if the victim ever comes forward and says “This is what happened”, everyone will be in question already and will go, “He tells lies. He makes up stories”.

It is insane, it is so sick. But it is very methodical and this is the system, this is how it works.”

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  1. February 5, 2018 6:41 am

    “I’m on your side. The side of digging deeper, of bringing out the truth, and the side of exonerating Michael.” – luv4hutch

    Luv4hutch, thank you for being on the side of the truth in the first place. I welcome all truth-seekers and everything else is secondary to me. The Truth is only one, so even if we go different ways we will still meet there, at our destination 🙂

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  2. February 4, 2018 6:10 pm

    Well, I know this much. The saying after all is, “there’s three sides to every story: yours, mine and the truth.” And I have a feeling the truth about Jeff Herman lies somewhere in the middle, but we’re unlikely to ever find corroboration.

    All I’ll be saying at this point is that we should welcome all the help we can get, but we must also be vigilant to make sure that they don’t try to tear things down from within, and cause enough chaos to have doubt cast on everything. Remember Rolling Stone and the UVA article? That should always be a cautionary tale.

    Just remember: I’m on your side. The side of digging deeper, of bringing out the truth, and the side of exonerating Michael.

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  3. February 4, 2018 4:02 pm

    Luv4hutch, some of those articles I was already familiar with as I read of Herman’s case before, but the document about the “rape case” is new to me:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4vfreru3pxw0lad/1365-98-12_Def.__J._Herman_Redacted%20watermarked.pdf?dl=0

    So I did have a look and you know what? I thoroughly enjoyed it. Here is the beginning of the story:

    A girl who took a temporary job with Herman’s company as a receptionist worked there for about 2 weeks during which they never talked and just said “Hi”. One day she suddenly approached him saying she heard he was a wrestler. She also did some wrestling so they talked about it. Then she said she had a problem with her boyfriend with whom she had a fight the previous night – he was mad at her not cleaning the place they lived in, so he kicked her out. And she asked Herman for his advice what to do?

    Quote:

    “What should I do? My boyfriend kicked me out of the apartment last night and you know he treats me like a slave and all he wants from me is sex and to make his dinner and to clean the house and I was late for dinner one night after working all day, so he kicked me out, what should I do? I thought that was kind of like a weird, forward question, but I said oh well, if I were you I would I guess find an apartment. She said she couldn’t afford an apartment. I said well, try roommate finders and get a roommate on Miami Beach or something. She said oh yeah, maybe I’ll do that. And then she said so what are doing tonight …”

    Shall I continue? Or will you read it yourself?

    By the way approximately the same version on how it began is told by the girl. Let me also add that at the very same time this was taking place, there was another boy in the office interested in her who was talking of her moving in with him, and there was one more paralegal in another department who was also going out with her.

    The girl underwent a test on a polygraph over Herman’s case and the result was “inconclusive.”

    In short, although I never do it, I recommend this document as educational reading, especially for men – as a manual on how not to find themselves in trouble by having dates with some girls.

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  4. February 4, 2018 2:43 pm

    I know you didn’t say any kind of support for these people, or that you find them to be decent, heroic individuals. But someone who doesn’t read closely enough could think that. I just want to give a helpful hint is all.

    The blog post about Jeff Herman’s past contains links to several other articles:
    View story at Medium.com
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jeff-herman-go-attorney-hollywood-sex-abuse-claims-was-once-accused-rape-1065590
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4vfreru3pxw0lad/1365-98-12_Def.__J._Herman_Redacted%20watermarked.pdf?dl=0
    https://nouw.com/hermanmetoo/jeff-herman-the-attorney-who-is-suing-ha-32341875

    All of this is surely troubling, especially if it is true. And sadly, it also shows that Michael Egan needed better representation.

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  5. February 4, 2018 1:57 pm

    “You could very easily be mistaken by readers as saying you fully support them or think highly of them. Notable example here is Jeff Herman, who helped represent Michael Egan. He also represents several of Weinstein’s accusers, but he has faced disciplinary action and has been found guilty of rape himself.” – luv4hutch

    You must be taking me for someone else – I never say I fully support or think highly of those whose articles I quote. How can I? I know next to nothing about these people. However when they provide facts which, after being checked up, turn out to be true these facts are sure to be used in my research.

    As to Jeff Herman I have my own reservations about him as at first he said one thing about Michael Egan – that he took his case after checking everything up and making sure that he was telling the truth, and then he said the opposite – that his client was a liar.

    In my opinion this kind of behavior is unacceptable for a lawyer, and the truth is only one, so either the first or the second time Jeff Herman told a lie himself, and for me this is enough to draw my conclusions about this person.

    He dropped his client as he was countersued by Ancier and Neuman and had to pay them a “seven-figure” settlement besides making an official apology: “I participated in making what I now know to be untrue.” “I have resolved this matter with compensation to you. I am hopeful that you can recover fully.”

    In comparison with what was said and done to Michael Jackson and no one ever answered for their lies about him, the above apology sounds outrageous to me and looks like Jeff Herman falling victim to intimidation.

    However, even if we doubt Jeff Herman’s integrity on the grounds stated above, the article you provided a link to doesn’t look to me well-researched and convincing either – at least by the standards I set for the research. But thanks anyway.

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  6. February 4, 2018 12:15 pm

    This was the article by Michelle Malkin that you transcribed in your first post about Bryan Singer: https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/michelle-malkin/2014/05/06/column-hollywoods-sexual-predator-problem-explodes

    I understand your intent, in posting comments from those who actually said something valid over child molestation, Michael’s case, and Corey Feldman’s allegation. If they have something relevant and helpful, why not use them? All I was saying is that people should be aware that they have axes to grind in other areas and could also be despicable people themselves, using this issue to further their agendas. You could very easily be mistaken by readers as saying you fully support them or think highly of them.

    Notable example here is Jeff Herman, who helped represent Michael Egan. He also represents several of Weinstein’s accusers, but he has faced disciplinary action and has been found guilty of rape himself. The blogpost here says more about it, though it does incorrectly state that Egan’s case was disproved and he was shown to be a liar. Other than that, the post is informative: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/26/1736139/-Jeff-Herman-the-master-pretender-of-the-Weinstein-scandal

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  7. February 4, 2018 9:50 am

    “I know Stacey Dash wrote this piece on Feldman talking about Hollywood’s hypocrisy but all of these individuals have an agenda, or ulterior motive.” – Asma

    Oh, now I see what Stacey Dash we are talking about. The one I quoted saying: “How can an industry rally against one form of abuse while turning its head to another?”

    Well, even if this Stacey Dash has an agenda or an ulterior motive for saying that, it doesn’t diminish the importance of her statement, which is still correct as we see it from the example of Corey Feldman and other child victims whose evidence is being hushed up and ignored, while a woman’s knee accidentally touched makes people hysterical. Sorry for the exaggeration (with Weinstein it looks like none of it was “accidental”, of course), but I hope you understand what I mean.

    Protection of children is indeed a bipartisan issue and should be handled by everyone, irrespective of political alliances. The opposite will be equivalent to placing one’s political views over the interests of children and their safety.

    And in this respect it seems that I am even lucky not to know who is right and who is left, because possessing this knowledge can often hinder the process of searching for the truth. People may be simply not interested in what the other side is saying and disregard their statements even without looking.

    Well guys, let us agree that Truth is the ultimate value, and though it is very difficult to know the absolute truth, it is still possible to at least come closer to it. If people are guided by truth alone one day the battles between “right” and “left” will greatly subside because many problems will fall off by themselves. As long as people have to function amidst myriads of lies they sometimes even don’t know what they are fighting for because what’s there on the surface is actually not what it’s really like.

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  8. February 4, 2018 8:57 am

    “Milo is a detestable provocateur who simply moves to be offensive to “stick it to ultra-PC liberals” and who continuously made reprehensible jokes about molestation and uses his position as being gay to promote homophobic and transphobic comments and ideas”
    “Stacey Dash and Michelle Malkin (whose article you transcribed in the first post about Bryan Singer) are different and not nearly as repulsive.”
    “Taylor Swift is no “silence breaker.” – luve4hutch

    Luve4hutch, your views on the above are clear, however you don’t realize that I analyze facts irrespective of who is providing them. As long as the fact is correct (and I always try to double check it by several other sources on the Internet), it is okay with me.

    For example, from the very start of it I’ve made extensive use of the texts from MJ’s haters – to know the details of all allegations against Michael and personally check up each of their points. Actually it was in the process of that research that I made sure that Michael was innocent. If I had read only fan sites I would have never made sure of his innocence that well.

    As to the persons you mentioned I’ve never said that Taylor Swift is a silence breaker. It surprised me very much that the Times put her on their cover as the Person of the year in the context of #metoo campaign as I don’t even remember reading anything about her in this respect. That picture from the Times was referred to only as an illustration that the real whistleblower and real person of the year – Corey Feldman – was fully ignored. Considering their attention to Taylor Swift and lack of it towards Corey Feldman, the media biased approach looks especially strong.

    Milo? I am not a fan of Milo and don’t know him well enough to make any conclusions. But in one of his interviews he was brave enough to talk about Hollywood parties attended by VERY young boys and he was definitely worried about it. He didn’t say much as he mumbled something about it being “dangerous”, but considering that he was present at those parties I absolutely couldn’t overlook his testimony about it.
    Milo evidently knows what he is talking about, so his information is of much value and must be true considering that he put himself at risk by disclosing it in public, for which he was immediately labelled a “supporter of boy/men love”, which he is not – his message was the opposite one.
    Last year I transcribed that part of his interview and put it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpUDy7shmvI

    As to Stacey Dash and Michell Malkin I don’t remember “transcribing” anything from these people. Since my ear is not that well trained and this job is difficult for me I usually remember what I transcribe and what I don’t, and in this case I haven’t the slightest recollection of it. Could you give a link to what you are talking about, please?

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  9. February 1, 2018 10:35 pm

    I’m very aware of those elements. Those weren’t the elements I was talking about as potential “embroidering” in Dylan’s account. And of course, Allen, in his response to Dylan’s letter, went to deny that he was ever in the attic at all again, and in his 1992 60 Minutes interview said “it doesn’t make sense that I’d do this in the middle of a custody battle. If I was going to do that, I’d have just given Mia what she wanted.” But of course, Dylan’s expression in the photos shows something different, and that he had been building up to this all these years, and probably would’ve done it sooner were it not for his attention being diverted to Soon-Yi.

    Speaking off, what are your thoughts about where things stand now with Justin Timberlake, his spouting support for Time’s Up while saying “Damn my wife is hot” (in case you don’t know, he is married to actress Jessica Biel) and eagerly participating in Allen’s latest film and Dylan’s raking him over the coals for it, because he said “explain what having your cake and eat it too means, because I’m confused.” Kate Winslet had co-starred in the film and was questioned relentlessly over it, but JT was ignored until Dylan’s comments brought into the fore. Then of course, his being invited to do the Super Bowl halftime show again, and seeming indifference to Janet and how her career was absolutely sabotaged due to the industry effectively blacklisting her, treating her as the guilty party.

    I wonder what the family had to feel, having to deal with this unnecessary scandal while they were already worrying about Michael.

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  10. January 28, 2018 3:08 am

    One charge “touching my knee” seems like too little to be sued for. 2 people may sit next to each other, let’s say listening to a lecture. The knee-toucher may just have wanted the attention of “victim” to make a comment.

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  11. January 28, 2018 3:00 am

    Allen first denied ever being in that narrow attic space because of his claustrophobia. Then his fingerprints and hair were found there. He gave some sort of explanation. Then the notes of the first examination were destroyed, why? It was led by a pediatrician who did not even see Dylan and he signed the report. Pediatricians are not taught the skill of diagnostic interviewing of young children.The child psychiatrist later criticised that evaluation. Also Allen refused a polygraph test recommended by the police.

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  12. January 27, 2018 1:20 pm

    P.S. I want to make my comments about Woody Allen clear. I believe it is quite likely, very probable, that Dylan was violated by Allen, and that she very much suffered. But I think it’s possible that given Mia Farrow’s justifiable rage, she did end up giving Dylan some degree of coaching to embroider more salacious details into the account, which she wouldn’t have found odd or wrong, because she was simply wanting to make sure that Allen paid for his behavior. But said embroidering gave Allen an opening to take advantage of, as well as given him a chance to feed misinformation and fabricated accounts of his own.

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  13. January 27, 2018 1:10 pm

    Don’t get me wrong, it’s clear that the vast majority of accounts of assault and harassment unearthed since Harvey Weinstein’s fall are clearly credible, and these individuals deserve punishment for their actions. But the chance of false reports, though small in the overall picture, still exists, and many people associated with #MeToo/Time’s Up aren’t remembering this. Indeed, a very rigid way of thinking is beginning to overtake the movement, leading to the possibility of firebrands hijacking the message and what it is meant to represent. It could very well end up feeding the negative stereotypes of “ultra-PC feminazi SJW bigots who can’t take a joke”, giving the alt-right, MRAs and their ilk more ammo to feed the fire.

    Of course, if you want to discuss further the political implications with me, join DailyKos, where I have an account, and posted two articles that very much touch on this subject. So discussing that part of the story should be reserved for there. The articles in question are below:
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/7/1722316/-Al-Franken-Democrats-Self-Imposed-Disembowelment
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/18/1734054/-Missive-From-The-Future-The-Needling-And-The-Damage-Done

    As to the main element of the story, which what the two Coreys suffered, how no one took their stories seriously, including many of the people that ended up involved in #MeToo/Time’s Up, and how the movement is clearly incomplete at this point, it just shows very much that something must be done. Sanity must prevail. This includes getting those who prey on children held accountable, this includes a need to stop the clear air of protection around individuals like Bryan Singer, this includes getting down to the bottom of Woody Allen’s situation once and for all (even with much of evidence muddied, distorted and even fabricated by people associated with both him and Mia Farrow because of their scorched earth campaigns of vengeance against each other), even with the fact that Soon-Yi seems to be very happy in her relationship with him and doesn’t think of herself as a victim of him, and this includes fully vindicating Michael and his reputation to the public eye.

    The great irony is that Michael would be this movement’s greatest ally, and would clearly do whatever in his power to shed a light on this atrocity, through his philanthropic work and his music. But he is gone, done in by the lies and innuendoes that bedeviled him, having been the poster child, the patient zero, of fake news as we know it today.

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  14. Asma permalink
    January 27, 2018 5:33 am

    luv4hutch,

    I have to thank you for breaking down and making clear who these people, Milo, Dash, and Malkin really are and their contributions to the grief and chaos that is being inflicted in the U.S. right now. These are the ultra, alt-right wingers who are submerged with the institutes that use the very tactics that have victimized Michael. Dash, Milo (I cannot spell his last name so sincere apologies) were/are involved with FOX “News”, Brietbart and Info Wars. FOX was actually the ring leader beginning in 1996 that brought the whole quality level of news reporting down into the gutter. I realize that Michael was targetted and harassed even before by the press but that was still usually with the tabloid/entertainment circuit (not that they didn’t have an influence nonetheless), whereas the news media largely stayed out of that realm. If pop stars were spoken about, it usually had to do with their work or involvements such as charities or visiting world leaders.

    As FOX garnered more and more ratings, other networks took measures to stay in the competition with CNN being sold to Time Warner in 2002/2003 and lowered their standards to disgusting degrees apparent in how they covered Michael during the raid giving Diane Dimond a platform she did not deserve.

    I know Stacey Dash wrote this piece on Feldman talking about Hollywood’s hypocrisy but all of these individuals have an agenda, or alterior motive. They view Hollywood as this liberal/leftist elite” and play to a certain public’s perception of its “satanic rituals” and sexually exploiting children, sometimes even “killing” them, for their own pleasures. They are basically aligning or giving a nod to Corey’s cause not necessarily because they care about helping children, but to further their agenda of keeping the divide between the “Evil” Hillary Clinton loving Left and the Right.

    I like you am not trying to interject a political debate into this either. My main objective is to simply point out that tactics are clearly being employed by one side (possibly) using Feldman and his cause to further this agenda. I just checked Feldman’s twitter account and there are already attacks stating that the recent accusations of sexual misconduct against CF are from the “evil left leaning media bought and paid for by crooked Hillary.” The truth is, she (Hillary Clinton) is herself a victim of media bullying and media perception manipulation with very, *very* similar tactics that was used, and is still used, against MJ. Though his was double.

    Indeed sexual misconduct and protecting children IS a bipartisan issue. However, the politicizing of it has been employed by the *alt-right* which includes these three (Dash, Malkin and Milo). This is the group that propogated pizzagate. They feed conspiracy theorists’ lust for sensation by creating stories, perceptions and images that those in power (usually who they consider to be, the “Left”) take part in using children for their own sexual gratification and participate in satanic type rituals.

    Hollywood and the media by all accounts harbors many hypocritical ideals and behaviors there is no doubt about that. One of the things evidenced by this is their continued lack of support for Feldman. However, that has nothing to do with left or right. It has to do with Hollywood’s own power structure as an institution. Every institute has its own power dynamic and structure like the media has theirs, corporations have theirs and government theirs. The MeToo and TimesUp movements were *supposed* to be about addressing these structures universally, but is getting swept in a wave of branding.

    I completely agree with what you said how Franken, Franco, and Ansari’s cases are revealing blind spots within the movement including silencing Matt Damon. I also agree regarding Taylor Swift. I also agree with people who are saying that the movements are looking a bit too female and only white females at that. There *are* men who are also victims as evidenced by James Vander Beek and Terry Crews as the first two voices who spoke up early in the movement and of course there are those who were children like Corey F. and Corey H. as well as young under aged girls. Bottom line, it is always dangerous territory to base opinions and reactions on accusations alone. It is bad enough to risk ruining someon’s life, but I also think that if more care isn’t given then a back lash will occur where it will be vulnerable groups such as women and minorities that will bear the brunt and we will end up right back at square one.

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  15. January 25, 2018 10:37 pm

    Milo? Really? Milo is a detestable provocateur who simply moves to be offensive to “stick it to ultra-PC liberals” and who continuously made reprehensible jokes about molestation and uses his position as being gay to promote homophobic and transphobic comments and ideas, such as saying “gay people are better serving society in the closet”, attack any and all signs of women taking a stance to control their own agency, and deliberately moves to light ground fires, so that he can blame it on those to the left of his own beliefs. Saying a kind word about Corey doesn’t absolve him of the harm he was wrought on society and fanning the culture wars.

    Stacey Dash and Michelle Malkin (whose article you transcribed in the first post about Bryan Singer) are different and not nearly as repulsive. They are textbook examples of a stopped clock being right twice a day, but still thoroughly insane and lacking in credibility (Dash has attacked any and all signs of civil rights struggles as well as attacking the hobbyhorse of affirmative action and police brutality, while Malkin has justified the internment of Japanese Americans in World War II and been an ardent apologist for America’s torture-based interrogation methods in the War on Terror, and both have attacked feminists as well as reporting of sexual assault, especially campus assaults, prior to #MeToo. Malkin, in the article cited, blamed the sexual assault epidemic as a liberal problem, while letting Republican offenders, like musician Ted Nugent, who famously admitted to sleeping with hundreds of underage women and once adopted an underage girl just to marry her in order to have sex with her (though he now tries to walk it back) completely off the hook.)

    But I’m not doing this to inject a political debate in here. I’m saying all this just to make clear who these individuals are. And the fact is that there are reprehensible, predatory individuals on both sides of the political spectrum, who must be exposed. Predators not only of women and young men, but defenseless children, who undoubtedly have the hardest burden. #MeToo/Time’s Up is not complete until they also move to defend the children who’ve been victimized as well. That, and there isn’t so much a knee-jerk reaction with allegations, as now there is a dangerous tendency to just assume the worst, which could lead to lives and reputations railroaded and destroyed without evidence, much the same as was attempted with Michael. The stories of people like Al Franken, James Franco, Aziz Ansari, and the silencing of Matt Damon’s comments and shaming him for them are warning signs that things could go very wrong. There is especially a danger of trivializing sexual assault and harassment by possibly lumping in innocent, incidental brief contact with a leg, briefly against a breast, someone’s buttocks, and so on, as the same as predatory behavior. We shouldn’t automatically dismiss allegations, but we shouldn’t automatically believe them either. Evidence is still needed, and this could be #MeToo’s blind spot. And if this isn’t addressed, Michael’s story could be repeated.

    P.S. Taylor Swift is no “silence breaker.” Her behavior shows that she wants only to silence others and has completely lost perspective. Especially as she plays both the “woke” and white nationalist circles and gives statements trying to keep both groups of fans in her corner, rather than take a true stand of courage in either direction.

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  16. January 20, 2018 4:09 pm

    “There’s lessons to learn let’s don’t punish all men for the sick mind of a minority let’s fix it so we can leave in harmony. And with all these we are forgetting the real victims – the Children that have no choice” – Des

    Des, very well said. I absolutely agree.

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  17. Des permalink
    January 19, 2018 10:52 am

    I want to say something about Oprah,I used to watch her shows and I have to say she is good of what she does,but always always she came across to me like she’s sucking up to white celebrities .In my opinion she knows a lot more than what she’s saying and she knew very well about Michael’s vitiligo she saw it with her own ayes but she never said anything, and maybe she was a little bit jealous of Michael,and now finding out that they used Michael’s name to cover up for her friends dirty business what more do we want for a prove .She was raped as a child she should understand better than anyone victims of rape especialy children,why doesn’t she listen the cries of Corey Feldman it makes me think again about Michael and all these mafia.My beautiful beautiful soul what he went through,that beautiful smile that used to light up his face after the trial all gone he was still smiling but you can see the sadness in his eyes ,while these criminals flourishing in his expense .Michael was so right when he was saying don’t reed the tabloids they aren’t true they mislead you and you making them rich.

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  18. Des permalink
    January 19, 2018 4:47 am

    Dear Helena,thank you ones more for all your hard work.For couple of weeks now am thinking do I leave a comment or not,but then I read something that Martin Luther said,the minute we stay silent we start dying ,so in my own words and whith my English as my second language I am going to express my opinion and please don’t hold it against me. I think our opinions mostly come from our experiences.When it comes to (me too) campaign I see it as wore between sexes,and we forget that those men out here they are our fathers our brothers our husbands our sons.I have worked for thirty six years in a factory whith more than a thousand people different nationalities religious colours and my experience is it was up to me who and how they gonna talk to me or touch me. I was twenty three years old and I can say that I was a good looking woman and married and a mother of two. I was responsible for me I had control only for my actions not for the others,for me in a few words it is like the traffic lights red STOP yellow it’s like okay and green your except it what ever that is. The red light was always on,and I go from there and I chose what to do.There’s always a reason why we do the things we do, and all of us have our reasons no one works in a factory for fun,we need it to work but we had a choice.Think of the people who don’t have a choice,children and refugees and so many others.I will do it all over again with a man for my boss.Women for me we are very competitive and it’s not enough If we have the power we compete about everything and I mean everything and maybe just because the world is looking we support each other but there’s a lot more to it. And whith all these we are forgetting the real victims the Children that they have no choice and they had no choice like Corey Feldman and so many others.This man is been suffering for so long and it’s upsetting that like no body cares,why don’t they make him a part of their campaign! Is it because he’s a man or because it’s so serious of what is talking about not just for Hollywood for police covering up that they don’t even want to go there or maybe because his Michael’s friend and trying to shut him up in any way they can . I wonder where Michaels family is,why don’t they support Corey openly maybe they do I don’t know. I want to remind you of Michael’s song (dirty Diana)listen to the words.There are women out there that seduce man all the time There was this woman in my work good looking woman she reminded me of Marilyn Monroe and her name was Marilyn she will touch every man on their privates and rub her breasts on their chests and nobody will say anything because a woman was doing it.When I first start working I was very naive and when I saw what I saw I will asked the older woman how can these people kiss other people wile they married and then go home and kiss their children.Adults are responsible for their actions and adults are responsible for our children.There so much I want to say about these things I sepause my upbringing has something to do with it. I never felt lesser than a man I felt different but equal,physically man are stronger but mentally women are a million times stronger,yes man can kill you with one punch but women can kill you every day with their mouth and we are very good on it,that doesn’t mean that I condone violence in any shape or form . I watched my grandparents and my parents the respect they had for each other,wile my father was working physical jobs very hard my mother and my grandmothers they were the bosses,they handle the money ,it’s something that I admired always equal but different
    There’s lessons to learn let’s don’t punish all man for the sick mind of a minority let’s fixed it so we can leave in harmony. I am a product of a man and a woman I love it when a man puts his arms around me and says everything will be alright we complete each other.My husband was after me for two years just to get one kiss, I played very hard to get dint not matter how i was feeling. I told the same thing to my daughter,it doesn’t matter how you feel don’t give in straight away, and I told my son If you kiss a woman on the first day remember the day before she kissed someone else,that was twenty five years ago,in today’s world if a man persuade a woman its a sexual harassment but If a woman persuade a man it’s called flirting.

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  19. Asma permalink
    January 18, 2018 2:44 pm

    Hi Helena,

    Wow thank you again for breaking down the differences between the South side and other places in your country where it matters not if you are gay or straight but a dissenter. I can assure about one thing, most of us here in the U.S. know that both are persecuted. However we *don’t* understand how that dynamic plays where sexual orientation matters in one part and not in other parts. Obviously we here in the U.S. are terrible at criticsl thinking skills and the news that sells is always the sensationalistic kind and that is constantly what we are fed about every subject.

    As a Muslim I can have some understanding as to your frustration regarding those outside of the country only supporting gay people but not understanding the dynamic that is in play in the rest of the areas where sexual orientation doesn’t matter but *dissenters* are persecuted.

    It is like the newspapers and right wing outlets here are always focusing on the terrorists persecution of gay people in Muslim countries claiming all these acts of terror is part of the teachings. All the while discounting the acts of terror these groups commit against *everyone* *including* their own Muslim brothers and sisters (statistically, ISIL killed more Muslims than those of different theologies. It’s about control and the very essence of predatory psychological behavior) but they don’t talk about that. Or how Muslims, Christians and Jewish people have lived side by side and many even forming life long bonds for decades or even centuries. My first best friends were Jewish and Christian in primary school, high school and college. I was bonded with them even moreso than Muslim peers my own age many times.

    The papers here always report on the (often inaccurate) sensationalism rather than the facts or the nuances of those facts. I don’t know if I should expect anything else, but I wished there was a real revolution in journalistic reporting where sensationalism can be banned forever. A tall order, I know. Particularly when dealing with greed being embedded in human nature.

    Now that you explained this nuance about your country to me, I will be sure to share it with others should the topic come up. Thank you again, dearest Helena. I really am in awe at how you and your countrymen handle the situations you are in, and truly do wish you well and the freedoms that you deserve.

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  20. January 17, 2018 4:52 pm

    “I hope you do not mind me asking all of these clarifications.” – Asma

    I absolutely don’t mind it. Please ask whatever you think needs clarification.

    “As per the treatment of gay people (and people in general) in the South side of your country, once again I cannot imagine how you and your countrymen deal with it every single day.”

    As far as I know in the major part of the country it is not that big a problem, except the South from which the news of horrible atrocities occasionally comes (which they deny though). But the evidence is overwhelming, so the denials are hardly believable – only no one can do anything about it except helping people to escape.
    As to other places the situation is absolutely different, because over here it doesn’t matter that much who you are – straight or gay. What really matters is whether you are a conformist or a protester. Supporters are allowed everything, dissenters are allowed nothing. Straight and gay people share the same fate depending on this factor.
    And when those who watch the events here from outside the country support only gays, it not only hurts, but it is also often misplaced – a gay conformist well adapted to the regime and “built” into it, may prosper and do whatever he likes, while a dissenter will have a hard time even if he is perfectly straight.
    What I am trying to say is that the challenges we face here are different from the challenges faced by people in the US or elsewhere. The division between us is going along different lines. Loyalty to the system is the ultimate value here with everything else secondary to it.

    “did you know that apparently even Corey Feldman was recently accused of “sexual battery”?”

    Yes, I’ve read about it and am not surprised. Here it is:

    “Los Angeles Police Department said a woman lodged a complaint against the 46-year-old actor this week in relation to an incident that allegedly took place in February last year.
    Feldman today denied the allegation in a strongly worded tweet, saying “the last thing I would ever want is 2 make some1 feel taken advantage of in any way (sic).”
    He wrote: “WE R FIGHTING THIS WAR OF INNAPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR AGAINST ALL HUMAN BEINGS, BECAUSE OF MY OWN PAINFUL EXPERIENCES, SO THE LAST THING I WOULD EVER WANT IS 2 MAKE SOME1 FEEL TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IN ANY WAY. I ASSURE U MY ATTORNEYS R DELAING W THESE EGREGIOUS ALLEGATIONS AS WE SPEAK!”

    Police have refused to reveal details of the alleged incident but NME reported this morning that Feldman is accused of groping the alleged victim’s buttocks.
    “On January 8 of this year, we had a female victim who filed a police report of sexual battery and the suspect is named as Corey Feldman,” LAPD spokesman Sal Ramirez told reporters overnight.
    “The incident occurred on February 4, 2017. (The) robbery/homicide division is handling the investigation.”
    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/police-confirm-former-child-star-corey-feldman-under-investigation-for-sexual-battery/news-story/30ce62d507e660cc4b93c8b9db44b84f#.pphjw

    Funny that the above is handled by the LAPD robbery/homicide division. And what they do need to investigate they don’t, but what that don’t need to investigate they do. No more comment from me.

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  21. Asma permalink
    January 17, 2018 3:10 pm

    Helena,

    Thank you so much once again for your wonderful explanation. It makes so much sense. It *is* a marvel that Bryan Singer is still managing to escape all this even after all that happened with Kevin Spacey. I learned that the #MeToo movement is really work related. Well, the actions of Singer and his cronies with their pool parties and all are not separated from work as you broke down how certain in the industry implement their predatory natures to dangle that carrot to young and aspiring up and comers and take advantage of them. Thank you for breaking all of this out and more to me. Also, pointing out that the Founder(s) of Gawker are openly gay yet were the ones who worked to expose Singer with those pictures, yet in turn were driven out (by a billionare gay man no less) is a very important observation.

    I hope you do not mind me asking all of these clarifications. The reason why I do is to take notes and solidify the logic to ensure that these power structures are not some part of a conspiracy theory, but follow a true logical pattern of predatory behavior (beinga student of psychology and all). Your break down really helped me make sense of some of the words, labels and categorizations.

    As per the treatment of gay people (and people in general) in the South side of your country, once again I cannot imagine how you and your countrymen deal with it every single day. We here in the United States are really quite spoiled with how (relatively, though for minorities such as the Black communities it’s hell) easy we have had it for so long. The threat of that disappearing with Trump in office, Putin’s meddling and the complacency and weak critical thinking skills of the general population is hard to bear.

    Back on topic though, did you know that apparently even Corey Feldman was recently accused of “sexual battery”? I did not read up on it except to see that he emphatically denied it, and I believe him 1000%. It is too, too suspicious to accuse him at this point and I think most of the people know that. The story got very little traction if any based on my own personal observation. Also the singer Seal who recently called out Oprah Winfrey is also supposedly being investigated for the same thing, though I know even less about the details there. However, as we have seen with Michael, we all know the lengths these folks will go, to silence all that and all those who try to expose them.

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  22. January 17, 2018 1:56 pm

    “As a side note, some of my dearest friends while growing up have been gay, and they were strong MJ advocates even in the face of derision.” – Asma

    Yes, I know it. I don’t have any gay friends but am increasingly drawn to support and protect them from any harassment, because among other things in my country they may fall the first victims to what’s going on here, at least in the southern areas of the country – which I naturally strongly oppose. In other areas it is more or less okay, but you never know what future will bring us.

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  23. January 17, 2018 1:11 pm

    “I gather you mean to say that Hollywood as a whole seems to attract people of a predatory nature in general which includes both gay and straight and they each have their own type of power structure hence the gay mafia. Am I understanding correctly?” – Asma

    Asma, though you addressed your question to Kaarin222, let me answer too because I would like to make myself absolutely clear on this point.

    Obviously, not the whole of Hollywood is made up of predators – there are thousands and thousands of people in the industry who are above suspicion. But since Hollywood is a magnet and provides unique opportunities to young aspiring artists, the number of those who are ready to take advantage of it must be bigger there than anywhere else (this may well apply to other film studios all over the world too).

    And it doesn’t depend on the sexuality – predators of one kind prey on their kind of victims, predators of another kind prey on their victims. However both types are abusing power as the essential component to the abuse is POWER, which produces victims on both sides, straight and gay alike. So the point is not in people’s sexuality – gay young men are as vulnerable as young women with absolutely no difference between them.

    The only difference is the fact that Weinstein’s fall will make abusers of his kind check their behavior now, which is a fantastic step forward. But gay young men are still unprotected as every revelation of their abuse is immediately hushed up and there is certainly no media outrage over gay victims in Hollywood.

    Who is preventing the media from talking about it? It must be that other power structure in Hollywood you mentioned that is protecting its predators. Whenever any complaints are made against Bryan Singer, for example, they are almost immediately suppressed and forgotten. Recently, for example, his former young boyfriend told the story of his relations with Singer who offered him to his friends like a piece of meat. If a girl were in his place, it would amount to him pimping her out to others – and this is okay? Or look at the picture of Singer’s pool parties published by Gawker – you can clearly see teenagers among naked men there which is another example of him corrupting the young.

    Again, the matter is not in Singer’s sexuality – if it were a heterosexual naked party with children lured in, it wouldn’t be okay either. Just imagine the media outrage if something of the kind had taken place in Neverland, for example? However, when it comes to Bryan Singer the majority of the media keep complete silence.

    And soon after Gawker published it as the only whistle blower that was courageous enough to raise the problem, it was them who were shut down. The reason they printed that photo is probably because they wanted to draw a clear line between homosexuality and pedophilia, and wanted Singer’s activities stopped (by the way that picture was how I learned of Gawker at all).

    Now, if Peter Thiel buys their archive as he wants to, even those last pieces of information may be eliminated from the Internet.

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  24. January 17, 2018 11:55 am

    “I picked up the “Gay Mafia” from one of the latest articles or references.. Peter Thiel was mentioned as he tried to shut down the Gawker that had published about his gay friends and also himself.” – kaarin222

    Correct, kaarin222, only Peter Thiel did not only try, but did shut down Gawker. The term “Hollywood gay mafia” was used by Gawker (whose founder and many authors are gay themselves) when they spoke about Barry Diller and his friends:

    The aerial leg of the vacation, apparently conducted via IAC’s $45 million Bombardier BD-700, brought together a group of Diller consorts including the media mogul’s old friend Sandy Gallin, a former talent manager who once repped Michael Jackson and Barbra Streisand and who, along with Diller and David Geffen, has long been considered a member of Hollywood’s gay mafia. http://gawker.com/5701857/barry-dillers-sexy-all-boy-thanksgiving

    And the matter is not in the fact whether they are gay or straight, but in the fact that Gakwer called them “mafia”. The idea of mafia is that it is a syndicate of powerful people who think themselves above the law. Statements like that were surely not forgiven to Gawker, hence the result.

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  25. January 17, 2018 8:26 am

    Look up”Barry Diller’s ” Sexy All Boys Thanksgiving”. ie friends of Peter Thiel. .It was actually found under VMJ , ;Corey Feldman’s Tapes about MJ ,Jon Grissom, sergeant Deborah……I had some problems tracing it back.It not an innocent gay club.

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  26. January 17, 2018 8:08 am

    I picked up the “Gay Mafia” from one of the latest articles or references.. Peter Thiel was mentioned as he tried to shut down the Gawker that had published about his gay friends and also himself.I could not find it ,but Helena probably knows.

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  27. Asma permalink
    January 15, 2018 7:34 pm

    Hi Kaarin222,

    When you say “gay mafia” may I know what you mean specifically? I gather you mean to say that Hollywood as a whole seems to attract people of a predatory nature in general which includes both gay and straight and they each have their own type of power structure hence the gay mafia. Am I understanding correctly?
    Thanks you in advance, I enjoy reading your posts.

    As a side note, some of my dearest friends while growing up have been gay, and they were strong MJ advocates even in the face of derision. They also some of the only people I could talk to about regarding his (MJ’s) innocence where unfortunately my regular friends would simply dismiss him as “weird.” It was always beyond frustrating, but I guess I cannot entirely blame them if the media has been successful in ingratiating that myth of “weird” into people’s minds.

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  28. January 15, 2018 4:11 pm

    “Helena, in some past article you had pics of a pool filled with men and boys.Maybe you can show that or those again.” – Kaarin222

    Kaarin222, here is a picture of Bryan Singer’s pool party. I see here at least three teenagers among this naked crowd:

    The picture was first published by Gawker, by the way, and if it weren’t for this now defunct tabloid (brought down by Peter Thiel as you know) we would have never had this evidence of Bryan Singer inviting underage boys to his parties. Everyone in Hollywood knows and keeps silence about it, but the picture may be the only factual evidence of it.

    To make sure that these boys are indeed underage, I’ve blown up the respective fragments (sorry for the poor quality), and you will see that the heads of these boys are much smaller than the rest of the crowd .

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  29. January 15, 2018 2:26 pm

    Who are the victims of the Hollywood Gay Mafia?

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  30. January 15, 2018 2:14 pm

    Helena, in some past article you had pics of a pool filled with men and boys.Maybe you can
    show that or those again.

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  31. January 15, 2018 1:59 pm

    OMG save us from Oprah.She speaks about women only, forgetting the plague of men who were boys when abused. And that Corey F. has not named anybody?? He was not heard or paid attention to when he did or censored when he wrote.Another factor may be that it is harder for men to admit what is homosexual abuse (usually).It is most important that VMJ keeps up with Corey’s cause and we should think about the fact that I believe keeps men from coming forward.

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  32. January 14, 2018 5:25 pm

    “Has anyone head of Rose McGowan’s defense of a convicted pedophile? His name is Victor Salva ‘ -Asma

    I’ve heard about it from this article, slightly shortened here. The author of it is asking the same questions as we are.

    People Are Overlooking One Huge Factor In America’s Recent Sexual Harassment Firestorm
    By Stacey Dash

    December 15, 2017

    …The focus of this essay is on hypocrisy. I will be following it up with how I deal with this in my life and career, However, this piece sets the table for that issue.

    Corey Feldman has been in the news recently. For decades, Feldman has claimed he and partner and best friend, the late Corey Haim were victims of sexual abuse. He charged that the real problem Hollywood faces rampant pedophilia. His autobiography outlined horrible incidences without naming names. Feldman has always maintained that he would one day divulge the names of the abusers.

    Time Magazine’s “Person of the Year” is the #METOO movement. These are the women who came forward to speak out against sexual abuse. I ask, why was Corey Feldman not on this cover?
    I also ask, why is no one helping Feldman in his cause? While Rose McGowan is able to summon her legions of “Rose Army” followers against anyone that offends her online, Feldman has been left standing basically alone.

    Corey was interviewed by both Barbara Walters and Matt Lauer, and both were contentious and adversarial toward him. Lauer’s stance is now ironic, to say the least. The argument was made that he never came forward to name names and therefore if this was such a pressing matter, why didn’t he do so? LA Sheriff’s Office staff said he never came to them.

    Last week an audio tape was produced proving Corey went to the police, as he said, in 1993 and listed the names of his abusers.

    So where is the outrage for what appears to be a major sexual abuse problem in my industry, but also for the mistreatment of Corey Feldman? Where are the big and powerful stars, so ready to vilify the President, yet turning their backs on a serious problem–a plague if you will.

    Where is the outrage, Hollywood? Stars claim their passion for helping children, but I guess children within the industry are sacrificial lambs?

    It is my opinion that Corey made a PR mistake. Not long after Harvey Weinstein went nova like a dying star, Corey stated once again he would name names. His critics fired back that he’d been teasing since leaving names out of his book, and no one expected him to do it now.

    The mistake he made, in my opinion, was setting up a crowdfunding site to raise ten million to make a documentary about the pedophilia issue in Hollywood. he would name the names in that film. The ten million was for private security for him and his family in addition to the costs of making the documentary he would write, direct and produce.

    Critics stepped forward crying foul. He was accused of scamming fans. Feldman lamented that hardly anyone in his professional world stepped forward to write some big checks. He was alone. I can see how his fund drive backfired and I can see how some would sense ulterior motives. I do not feel that was Corey’s intent. Hindsight is 20/20 and I suspect he would’ve done some things differently.

    Put that all aside, Corey Feldman is alone. He is right. Despite empty-gestured hashtag campaigns like #IStandWithCorey (What does that even mean? If you stand with him are you paying his security bills, legal fees if he goes to court?)

    Why won’t anyone listen to Corey Feldman and speak up? Why was he left off the cover of Time Magazine? Didn’t he speak up decades before the #MeToo campaign? Is it because he is unliked? Is it because he isn’t an A-lister? Is it because he is male?

    There are few who can argue against protecting children from sexual abuse and those who can, I don’t want to know. Why wouldn’t the entire industry rally to Feldman’s cause?

    Rose McGowan is the defacto leader of her army. While she has understandably focused her rage on Weinstein and his ilk, she did work for Victor Salva, director of Powder and the Jeepers Creepers films. Salva was convicted of child molestation and pornography. Read more here.
    McGowan is quoted as saying Salva was a sweet man and she’d rather not know about his sordid past. You can read here (https://medium.com/codyngore/the-problem-with-rose-mcgowan-f5b5ae837894)

    So Weinstein is a monster (I agree) but Victor Salva’s abuse of children is something someone as rabid as Rose would just rather not deal with? This makes no sense to me.

    How can an industry rally against one form of abuse while turning its head to another?

    What exactly is the selective process Hollywood has for its causes? I know that a number of men have come forward to discuss their issues with sexual abuse in the industry. From groping to full blown rape, the male stories take a backseat to the women’s tales.

    …I ask again, Hollywood, why is no one listening to Corey Feldman? Why is no one of power stepping forward and embracing him and his cause? They left him to look like a fool on national TV years ago and no one stepped up to confirm that he did indeed, as he said, go to the LA Sheriff’s office to list his abusers.

    Corey Haim died a lonely death, demonized by his past, as his own mother will attest. Why didn’t someone speak up then? Why are certain powerful directors still on the A-list, while also on the whispered pedophile list?

    Which leads me to my next piece. Why am I on a blacklist, similar to Corey Feldman, for speaking my mind as a black, conservative woman?
    I end this piece by saying what my critics will say: I said stupid things. I upset the wrong people. I betrayed my race. The list goes on…

    #MeToo should include Corey Feldman and all of those children robbed of their voices. Corey’s films created a lot of wealth. They generated billions and he was used by this industry. His lone stance and the silence from Hollywood speaks volumes.

    https://www.americanewshub.com/2017/12/15/people-overlooking-one-huge-factor-in-americas-recent-sexual-harassment-firestorm-2/

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  33. Asma permalink
    January 14, 2018 5:16 pm

    Hi Helena,

    My goodness even reading that text is making my eyes roll lol. You are absolutely correct, aside from a few important references such as Recy Taylor and her own encounters with racism, I do not understand what all the fuss is about with her speech. She has actually irritated me for a long time. Since 2003 or 2004 when I actually finally got some cognitive development to understand that she is all about marketing and nothing more. All glitter and no substance, and only the glitterati Hollywood will sell her as the opposite.

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  34. January 14, 2018 5:08 pm

    Oh, Asma, I haven’t watched the ceremony either – there was no desire and chance anyway – but when I was looking for information about Corey Feldman and his recently uncovered tapes, I constantly came across Oprah, Oprah and Oprah again. This made me look up her speech at the Golden Globes which is being talked so much and when I found it, frankly, I couldn’t even understand what it was about. Most of it is shallow words about nothing, in my opinion. Though the media now likens it to a speech of someone running for President – this is how far we went from the problem of sexual assault.

    Here is the speech, by the way, in case someone is interested. Its full text is duly provided by the Associated press.

    Oprah Winfrey’s Golden Globes speech: the full text
    Oprah Winfrey accepted the Cecil B DeMille Award at Sunday’s Golden Globe Awards in Beverly Hills, California
    Associated Press in Beverly Hills
    Mon 8 Jan 2018 15.15

    The following is the full text of Oprah Winfrey’s speech as she accepted the Cecil B DeMille Award at Sunday’s Golden Globe Awards: https://youtu.be/LyBims8OkSY

    Oprah Winfrey’s stirring Golden Globes speech prompts talk of White House run

    In 1964, I was a little girl sitting on the linoleum floor of my mother’s house in Milwaukee watching Anne Bancroft present the Oscar for Best Actor at the 36th Academy Awards. She opened the envelope, and said five words that literally made history: “The winner is Sidney Poitier.” Up to the stage came the most elegant man I had ever seen. I remember his tie was white and, of course, his skin was black. And I’d never seen a black man being celebrated like that. And I have tried many, many, many times to explain what a moment like that means to a little girl, a kid watching from the cheap seats as my mom came through the door, bone tired from cleaning other people’s houses. But all I can do is quote and say that the explanation in Sidney’s performance in Lilies of the Field, “Amen, amen. Amen, amen.”

    In 1982, Sidney received the Cecil B DeMille Award right here at the Golden Globes, and it is not lost on me that at this moment, there are some little girls watching as I become the first black woman to be given this same award.

    It is an honor – it is an honor and it is a privilege to share the evening with all of them and also with the incredible men and women who inspire me, who challenge me, who sustain me and made my journey to this stage possible. Dennis Swanson, who took a chance on me for AM Chicago. Quincy Jones, who saw me on that show and said to Steven Spielberg, “Yes, she is Sofia in The Color Purple.” Gayle, who has been the definition of what a friend is. And Stedman, who has been my rock. Just a few to name.

    I’d like to thank the Hollywood Foreign Press Association because we all know that the press is under siege these days, but we also know that it is the insatiable dedication to uncovering the absolute truth that keeps us from turning a blind eye to corruption and to injustice – to tyrants and victims and secrets and lies. I want to say that I value the press more than ever before as we try to navigate these complicated times, which brings me to this: what I know for sure is that speaking your truth is the most powerful tool we all have. And I’m especially proud and inspired by all the women who have felt strong enough and empowered enough to speak up and share their personal stories. Each of us in this room are celebrated because of the stories that we tell. And this year we became the story. But it’s not just a story affecting the entertainment industry. It’s one that transcends any culture, geography, race, religion, politics or workplace. So I want tonight to express gratitude to all the women who have endured years of abuse and assault because they, like my mother, had children to feed and bills to pay and dreams to pursue.

    They’re the women whose names we’ll never know. They are domestic workers and farm workers. They are working in factories, and they work in restaurants, and they’re in academia and engineering and medicine and science. They’re part of the world of tech and politics and business. They are athletes in the Olympics, and they are soldiers in the military.

    And there’s someone else: Recy Taylor, a name I know and I think you should know too. In 1944, Recy Taylor was a young wife and a mother. She was just walking home from the church service she’d attended in Abbeville, Alabama, when she was abducted by six armed white men, raped, and left blindfolded by the side of the road coming home from church. They threatened to kill her if she ever told anyone, but her story was reported to the NAACP, where a young worker by the name of Rosa Parks became the lead investigator on her case. And together they sought justice. But justice wasn’t an option in the era of Jim Crow. The men who tried to destroy her were never persecuted. Recy Taylor died 10 days ago, just shy of her 98th birthday. She lived as we all have lived, too many years in a culture broken by brutally powerful men. For too long, women have not been heard or believed if they dared to speak their truth to the power of those men, but their time is up.

    Their time is up. Their time is up. And I just hope – I just hope that Recy Taylor died knowing that her truth, like the truth of so many other women who were tormented in those years and even now tormented, goes marching on. It was somewhere in Rosa Parks’ heart almost 11 years later when she made the decision to stay seated on that bus in Montgomery. And it’s here with every woman who chooses to say, “Me too” and every man, every man who chooses to listen.

    In my career what I’ve always tried my best to do, whether on television or through film, is to say something about how men and women really behave, to say how we experience shame, how we love and how we rage, how we fail, how we retreat, persevere and how we overcome. I’ve interviewed and portrayed people who have withstood some of the ugliest things life can throw at you, but the one quality all of them seem to share is an ability to maintain hope for a brighter morning, even during our darkest nights. So I want all the girls watching here now to know that a new day is on the horizon.

    And when that new day finally dawns, it will be because of a lot of magnificent women, many of whom are right here in this room tonight, and some pretty phenomenal men fighting hard to make sure that they become the leaders who take us to the time when nobody ever has to say, “Me too” again. Thank you.

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jan/08/oprah-winfreys-golden-globes-speech-the-full-text

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  35. Asma permalink
    January 14, 2018 5:04 pm

    Oh btw, speaking of hypocrisy. Has anyone head of Rose McGowan’s defense of a convicted pedophile? His name is Victor Salva, and apparently while she was screaming and Corey she said Salva’s situation is none of her business or to some extent like that. So yrs, I am grateful for the movement and its concept, but I know it is also filled with a ton of hypocrisy and Rose McGowan is the ring leader.

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  36. Asma permalink
    January 14, 2018 4:54 pm

    You’ll get no argument from me, Helena. I didn’t watch the Golden Globes as I avoid award shows like the plague. I did read about it and caught snippets and absolutely it is just a bunch of sanctimonious, self congratulatory hypocrites wearing all black as if it will actually do anything.

    I agree as well that they really, *really* need to turn the spotlight on child molestation in Hollywood. They couldn’t stop spotlighting the Catholic Church, Hollywood and the media (as it should have) but when it comes to their own they only do what is convenient which is simply disgusting.

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  37. January 14, 2018 4:41 pm

    “I agree with Kaarin222 that I am actually glad for the #metoo movement overall” – Asma

    I absolutely agree with Kaarin222 about the #metoo movement when we talk about abuse, demeaning behaviour and things like that, and not a light flirt which is absolutely natural.

    But the fact that these women who wore black in memory of their experience of abuse (as well as men who support them) totally forget about children who are the most vulnerable victims of all and completely ignore the problem – this is incomprehensible to me.

    In a situation of abuse a grown-up woman or man are traumatized, of course, no doubt about it, but grown-ups can at least understand what is going on and more or less cope with it.

    But children very often don’t. They give their little trusting hand to an adult and go with them wherever they are taken. They will be confused, frightened, even terrified, but the same adult will explain to them that “it is okay” and “this is what everyone does” and they will accept it – to fully realize what happened only as they grow up.

    But by then their life has already been ruined, sometimes irreparably. From the moment of abuse a boy’s or girl’s life takes a totally unnatural course and only God knows whether it will take them. This damage done to them can never be undone.

    And if we add to it the fact that abusers very often introduce children to drugs, eventually turning them into hopeless addicts, this becomes a totally unbearable situation when everyone should drop whatever they’re doing and rush forward to help and do something about it.

    And what do they do? They ignore it. The same women who were abused and know what it’s like from their own experience and who by nature itself are called to protect kids ignore the problem as if it doesn’t exist.

    They kept complete silence when they heard numerous complaints – not only from Corey, but from other people who were abused when they were children. Instead the discussion quickly went into the gender problem and women fighting for their rights.

    Okay, this is important too, but why forget the children and pretend that everything is fine? Where is the media, where is everybody?

    Why does Corey Feldman have to fight a lone fight? And why do they ignore him to a degree when they even don’t invite him to an event where the #metoo movement was actually celebrating its victory?

    Sorry to say that, but to me it looked like a huge hypocrisy – something that is done for appearances only.

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  38. Asma permalink
    January 14, 2018 1:09 pm

    I agree with Kaarin222 that I am actually glad for the #metoo movement overall with some trepidations, and unfortunately Milo I feel lacks a lot of credibility. However, I *do* feel CF has credibility and I definitely take what he says regarding McGowen to heart. I do wished that the movement and those within the movement would welcome Feldman.

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  39. January 14, 2018 12:49 pm

    I am glad for the #metoo movement. It is not against men .What woman would be against some light goodnatured light flirt.And I am 100% sure a woman knows when it ‘s demeaning and when not.There is of, course , a natural attraction between the sexes Somebody advised to call it “powerdom”, ie including abuse to women as well as boys and at times men, esp. young ones..- I hope success for Corey Feldman.. The more people become aware of the magnitude of the pedophilia in Hollywood the greater his chances. What a shame that he was not invited to the Golden Globes affair.
    And Oprah used the occasion to aggrandize herself. It is Corey Felman who initiated this topic afterall.

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  40. January 14, 2018 11:09 am

    Friends, as to Oprah let me also refer you to Milo Yiannopoulos’s show and his view on Oprah, Rose McGowan and Corey Feldman whom he takes very seriously.

    MILO Explains ‘Oprah 2020’

    Milo is not especially kind to Rose McGowan and ridicules Oprah for taking the opportunity to become “the queen of the female resistance movement”, but irrespective of what you think of those two personas and Milo himself, as regards Corey Feldman he is absolutely right and his assessment of what’s going on in Hollywood also sounds correct and true.

    I’ve transcribed most of it too, leaving out only a few illegible things and some stuff about his political views. In my opinion the matter of sexual abuse is not about politics, but is a common human problem to be resolved jointly too.

    Milo:…”This isn’t all about Rose McGowan any more. This is a woman who took a deal to stay quiet, did a calculation, she worked out that it was more profitable to speak out than to stay quiet. Then it comes out that she is thinking about a seven-figure settlement to not speak out again and okay, she doesn’t take the deal. Maybe she thought that the payday was bigger in the long run, becoming the front woman of this new rebel army of women who just “don’t take it any more”.

    Except now it isn’t Rose’s show any more, because now that Oprah and Meryl are involved who the hell is Rose McGowan? Now Oprah owns this subject and Meryl Streep was there in the front row … quietly and elegantly clapping her hands and nodding her head.

    And now Oprah becomes the queen of the female resistance movement after torpedoing her career for NOT standing up for women. Now we have Rose McGowan left on the sidelines – who is Rose McGowan? Bigger beasts have taken over the mission, have taken over the movement from her.

    Co-host: Do you know who else is upset they didn’t get him invited?
    Milo: Who is?
    Co-host: Corey Feldman. He is very upset.
    Milo: Oh, you see, this is more defensible, Corey Feldman is more defensible. And the most heart-wrenching bit of the story, which I talk about in the book “Despicable” that comes out in May, the best bit of the story is that now in retrospect we understand why Matt Lauer was so aggressive and hostile to Corey.
    Co-host: He was terrible to him.
    Milo: Why? Because in the back of his head he was thinking, “I should discredit all accusers because mine will come next…. This is Matt Lauer, about whom – again – everybody knew in the network. And in the back of his mind he is thinking, I’m sure, “the small move here is to discredit accusers and play this down, and make Corey Feldman like he is crazy because I know I am up on the rack next”.

    I was watching the interview with him and I was thinking – okay, Corey Feldman is an oddball, he is a little weird, a little cookie, but wouldn’t you be after he went through when he was a kid? The other kid it happened to killed himself. Corey Feldman is a bit of an oddball, but he is now speaking out, he is giving names, he wanted to do like a fund raise but it didn’t work because he needed someone for legal protection and all the rest of it. Meanwhile he is arrested for marijhuana possession as a warning as he starts speaking out and Matt Lauer is going in on him – like he is the bad guy, like he did something. It was the most accusatory tone, I couldn’t believe it. And now everyone realizes why.

    Corey Feldman….. I just feel bad – I mean, I am putting it in the book, so it’s no secret – we’ve been in touch briefly, we had a phone call, and unfortunately he decided not to talk to me, and I think it was a mistake and I hope he gets back in touch and I hope it makes it into the book. Whatever advice he is taking to hold out for this sympathetic mainstream media interview, to hold out for Charlie Rose or whatever – it isn’t coming.

    It isn’t coming because the people he wants to go for and the subject he wants to talk about – they are not palatable. People don’t want to hear about it. They are not ready for Corey Feldman. They are okay for women talking about bad men but they don’t want to hear about the gay child rape stuff. They don’t want to know.

    And so he is the oddball “weirdo” throwing out allegations that they must discredit because what is the alternative? Opening a can of worms that will consume Hollywood, consume the entire entertainment industry? The whole place will be in smoldering ruins if Corey Feldman’s allegations are properly investigated because of what will surface elsewhere.

    And they are not ready for it. They don’t want to do that. They want to do anything but that. In fact, you can see if look carefully in the left-wing coverage of this, you can see the circumscription begin to happen. They want to limit it to “bad men attacking innocent women”, female victims, and let’s leave the subject there.

    The movement is not about genuine sexual assault. It is women vs. men. It is gender, it is nothing else. It is nothing about race, nothing about homosexuality, nothing about child [abuse], whatever… They are trying to contain the fallout from Weinstein.

    And they can’t – it’s not going to work, it is not going to happen. The reason I think they are so aggressively against Corey Feldman speaking out, naming names and letting have his say in a sort of a sympathetic environment that would normally be provided to abuse victims or to people who are ready to speak up about their abusers and things that happened to them when they were children, particularly in the industry everyone is fascinated by – the movies and TV – they are not giving him the platform for that reason, I think.

    That’s the story of real tragedy. I mean, Rose McGowan frankly can go hang. I think she is the worst kind of opportunist. She first of all took the deal, indicating that she cared more about her career than her dignity and more about her pocket book than her dignity. She stayed quiet while other female victims were presumably being abused, and harassed and in some cases raped. And she is brazenly and shamelessly throwing the word “rape” around on Twitter because she is upset she is not the front table at the Golden Globes. She is like “patient zero”, she is victim number one in America today – why isn’t she on stage where Oprah is? And she is mad about it.

    Meanwhile there is a real tragedy which is Corey Feldman and which is still not being aired properly. And now they’ve given him a cursory tour of the studios, because the clamor was so loud. They’ve given him a cursory tour of the TV studios, during which he was subjected to hostile interview after hostile interview.

    The entertainment industry has not moved much past Barbara Walters when she said two decades ago, “What are you doing? You are damaging a whole industry!” rather than listen to the story of how he was abused as he says, and worse as he is now tumbling out of his mouth eventually after all these years.

    Now he’s been forced into doing it in a very unsatisfactory way, in a way the story from him may now never be heard properly, because he’s been scared off the people who might actually listen to him. And he has been bullied, managed badly obviously and guided into hostile interviews, to people who have no incentive to hear his truth.

    My hope is, and I am pretty sure about it, that they are not going to be able to contain the damage. This is not just a little hill fire that damages a few homes. This is like full forest fire. This is taking out the state. This is genie out of the bottle, a horse bolted out of the stable territory. And they are not going to contain this and turn it into a gendered issue.

    If you make it Women vs. Men it is Left vs. Right, because men and women sought themselves comfortably unfortunately (I don’t know why this is the case which it shouldn’t be) into left v. right on these gender issues. The male position is seen as a libertarian Trump-like position, the female position is seen as a progressive or whatever.

    I hope, and I don’t think they are going to do it, I hope that this fire is going to consume the whole industry and the town. I want LA in smoldering ruins – because it deserves to be.

    Co-host: Well, Oprah says a new day is on the horizon. So I think we can all go to bed and it’s going to be all right.

    Milo (laughs): Now that we’ve had Oprah’s speech everything is all right.

    Co-host: Wait, was that a big fix to bring in Orpah?

    Milo: It is like a come-to-God moment. ….. The only thing we can do is get a ten-minute oration from Oprah!

    Co-host: And now we can forget about it and sleep well.

    Milo: You know why? Because she absolved them of their sins. She spoke to a roomful of men and women clad in black who are the perpetrators masquerading as victims and they brought in the closest thing to God, which is Oprah, and she blessed them and absolved them. And now they can go forward in the world feeling like they fixed something, feeling like rather than being part of the problem they are now part of the solution. They can go into the world feeling like their sins have been washed clean, because they’ve been touched by Oprah. Look at the reaction from journalists – this is how she is perceived in culture, still, even now. This is Oprah’s stuff….

    …And Oprah’s little ten minute pandering on the stage was them bypassing the step of making it right and being given forgiveness, despite the fact that they had given no indication whatsoever that they were going to do anything to make it right – except wear some black clothes.”

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  41. January 14, 2018 10:29 am

    Corey has to keep all tapes and whatever he may have as evidence very safe. Just remember the AEG lost the securiy tape and I recall a computer too. Not to speak of those fading memories.The best he could have done is keeping a diary, He may not have thought of it at the time.
    Save us from Oprah as president.

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  42. January 14, 2018 9:04 am

    Thank you for all the details and the transcripts. Excellent… infuriating, but excellent reporting.

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  43. Asma permalink
    January 14, 2018 3:13 am

    Oh I should also say Godspeed to Corey. This whole treatment against him is absolutely abhorent and I pray he comes out on top in all of this.

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  44. Asma permalink
    January 14, 2018 3:06 am

    Thank you again for this post, Helena. What an exhausting wheel that turns endlessly. The hypocrisy of the silly Golden Globe awards did not end there. I am sure you know of Oprah Winfrey’s speech making this big splash creating talk of her running for president. Every MJ fan and advocates knows her contribution to the media smear against him. If I recall correctly, she even did a show where she had a girls slumber party I believe. All the while disparaging Jackson for doing the same thing, she aired it in television. I may dig for that episode and if I find it I’ll share it.

    Once again, thank you for another eye opening post. Reading your investigation is gut wrenching due to the tactics taken against this man than far less than savory people. I cannot imagine how you feel unraveling this, but thank you so much for doing so and presenting it for us.

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