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June Chandler’s testimony at the 2005 trial revisited. THE LOVE BRACELET

January 21, 2013

After two posts about the insider’s letter it has become clear that the goal of my writing about it  has been totally misunderstood. Of course it is my fault and no one else’s, so let me try and explain it again.

THE INSIDER’S LETTER

I’m comparing every little detail of that letter with real events known to us now not because I want to savor the most intimate details of Michael’s personal life, but because I need to make sure that the letter is authentic. By authenticity I mean that it was written by someone who knew Michael’s most intimate secrets and is able to tell us the truth. And if the insider is found a credible source of information in all other matters, his statement about June Chandler may be regarded as perfectly credible too.

And what does the author of the letter say about June Chandler and her son? Well, nothing much.

The author simply includes June Chandler into the list of Michael’s love affairs or at least love interests, and calls Jordan a punk bitch who got jealous of mommy’s relationship with Michael (“punk bitch” means cowardly and mean).

Let us note that the matter-of-fact way he mentions them shows no desire on the author’s part to rub the information in, which is uncharacteristic of a fan but typical of a true witness – he talks of it like someone who really knows and just states the truth without any hysteria or sensationalism.

Quiet as this statement is, it is still impossible to overestimate it. It shifts the focus of the 1993 case from the “child molestation” absurdity to the reality of a man-woman relationship, putting the official Chandler story into a big lie category and once again stressing the thoroughly heterosexual side of Michael Jackson (which the author of the letter already explained to us through various other cases).

This revelation tells us the true essence of the 1993 case – among all the Chandlers Michael was interested in the woman, while they presented it as if he was interested in the boy instead.

June Chandler (wearing white) is with her kids at the World Music awards ceremony

June Chandler (wearing white) is with her kids at the World Music awards ceremony in Monaco, May 1993

What feeling Michael had for June Chandler and how far these relations went we will probably never know – but the new focus in that story fits in perfectly well with every little detail we know of the case.

It explains all the issues still outstanding about June Chandler – for example, why Michael introduced her to the royalty by taking her and her kids to a party thrown by Prince Albert of Monaco. After all he didn’t do it for anyone else – for example, the Cascio kids and their mother though they were practically his second family.

Michael’s possible marital interest in June Chandler will also explain why Michael stayed in June Chandler’s house and why he arrived there every day in time for the family dinner, and why he then helped Jordan to do his homework – if this was supposed to be his family, it was a natural thing for him to treat Jordan like his own son.

It explains why June Chandler was actually accompanying Michael wherever he went, though no other woman in his surrounding ever did it and so openly too, except for Lisa Marie and Debbie Rowe at a later time. If you come to think of it June was the first woman to stay with Michael in his hotel suites and accompany him to many places of the world, including the official ceremonies.

Well, if this was supposed to be a family, it explains why Michael always carried little Lily Chandler in his arms on all the pictures we have of them together and is tenderly kissing and hugging her each time.

Monaco with Chandlers11

During the ceremony Michael took care of Lily Chandler much more than of Jordan. She was small and got tired easily, so she was constantly on and off Michael’s lap.

In short Michael seemed to be adopting this family. He was in some relationship with this woman, treated her children as his own, took her to the top of the world and tried upon himself the role of her spouse and a family man.

This was exactly what the gossipy National Enquirer wrote about Michael and June Chandler and her kids after their joint visit to Monaco, and this sent both of June’s former husbands into a rage. Unfortunately the article is absolutely nowhere to be found now, so we will have to go by what Ray Chandler tells us about it:

On the morning of May 7, Evan drove to Junes to see her and the kids off on a trip to Europe. They’d be joining Michael in Monaco for the World Music Awards. “At that point,” Evan later told the police, “I didn’t believe anything inappropriate was going on. Jordie looked great and acted the same as always. I was happy for him.”

June was ecstatic about the trip. Over and over she told Evan about the “seven-thousand-dollar first-class tickets” Michael had given her, waving them in the air as Evan helped load their bags into the limo.

“I was happy for June, too,” Evan said. “Dave never treated her that well, but Michael was nice to her. I half-joked, ‘Hey, maybe you’ll marry Michael.’ It would have been great for both of them. He’d get a new image and she’d finally have a peaceful relationship.”

It was no secret that June and Dave, now estranged, were not a match made in heaven. Over the years she had threatened several times to divorce him. Dave was a hard-core workaholic who was rarely at home, even on Sundays, and he often lived away from his family for months at a time.

Jordan seems to be on good terms with the Prince of Monaco

Jordan seems to be on good terms with the Prince of Monaco

Simultaneous with their return from Europe, the National Enquirer released a story that disturbed Evan greatly. While he was aware that anyone hanging around with Michael would eventually appear in the tabloids this particular story was about Michael’s new family and described Jordie as if he was the singer’s adopted son.

The article was pure hype, but Evan feared that Jordie might now be a target for kidnappers or jealous fans. Michael had voiced his love for many children, all children, but never before had any one child been described as being that close to the superstar.

Knowing that Dave would share his concerns, Evan suggested he tell June to “stop yapping to her friends.” It was a sister of June’s closest friend who had sold the story to the Enquirer.

Two days later June called Evan to scold him for telling Dave she had a big mouth. No sooner had June finished with Evan when Dave called. If Evan was upset about the Enquirer article, Dave was livid. “That asshole is destroying my business and my family!” he screamed into the phone. Dave told Evan he was getting calls from friends and business acquaintances expressing their sympathy for the loss of his family. He felt humiliated.

Monaco with Chandlers5

Jordan is speaking to Prince Albert

Dave also felt double-crossed. Before June left for Europe he gave her five thousand dollars and told her not to accept any gifts from Michael. Dave didn’t seem to care at this point that Michael was constantly showering presents on his kids, but his wife was another story. June took the five thousand, but she was not about to pass up a Jackson-financed shopping spree just to pacify the ego of her estranged husband.

Dave was jealous, but of greater concern was the effect on his business. He was heavily leveraged in a down-turned real estate market, and things were not going well. With his family’s exploits plastered all over the tabloids, his creditors became even more nervous now that his personal life was unstable.

“Calm down,” Evan told Dave. “I’ll call June and see if I can work things out.”

Michael is on stage receving the award

But June had her own lament. “He wants me to get rid of Michael,” she told Evan. “Why should I? Michael’s been good to the kids and me. Dave ignores them. He hardly even bothers to call Kelly anymore. Uh-uh, no way.” It appears as if June was more willing to get rid of Dave than she was of Michael. Dave and June’s marriage had been strained for many years and they had unofficially separated several months before Michael came into their lives.

Though said very carefully in order not to disclose to readers too much truth, the above piece still throws some light on the relations between Michael and June Chandler. With a context like that the information from Michael’s insider does not look that surprising any more. The author of the letter has already proven to us that he knew the most intimate secrets of Michael Jackson’s relations with other two women – Lisa Marie and Debbie, including details only an insider could know, and now that he comes with a statement about June Chandler, there are many indications that it may indeed be true.

We are simply not yet able to grasp this phenomenal news as we are still under the spell of the twenty years of lies about the 1993 case. However now that we’ve marked the 20th anniversary of those events it is high time we reviewed them again and cleared them of all lies once and for all.

Lily's interaction with Prince Albert

Lily also interacted with Prince Albert. June Chandler and Michael Jackson are happy

What I mean is that it is time for us to realize that the so-called 1993 case was revolving not around JORDAN Chandler and the rest of them – no, it was revolving around JUNE Chandler in the first place, as well as her children of course.

JEALOUSY AND THE WELL-WISHERS

For Jordan Chandler it could have indeed started with jealousy of her mother’s relationship with Michael and the attention Michael gave her on a steady basis. Jealousy was the feeling Michael seemed to arouse in everyone around him as almost all his friends and acquaintances, young or old alike, were competing for his attention, were tearing him apart and wanted him for themselves only.

But though the boy’s jealousy could probably be dealt with in this or that way, Evan’s scandalous suspicions about him could not. Judging by the question Evan Chandler asked Michael almost immediately after meeting him for the first time (“Are you f—-g my son in the ass?”), Evan defied all rules of decency and this could be done only if he was full to the brim with crazy ideas about Michael and could not hold himself any longer. And this in its turn could happen only if someone infinitely crafty in the art of poisoning and slander was pouring venum into Evan’s ears.

From all we know about the 1993 case the only person able to do it was a suspected pedophile and a proven attendee of the NAMBLA conference Victor Gutierrez who, according to his own words, made rounds of all parents in Michael Jackson’s vicinity telling them fake pedophilia stories about the man which “everyone” allegedly knew, and since he himself says that he made rounds of everyone around Jackson, there is no reason to exclude Evan Chandler from the list.

Considering that Gutierrez also had a bad habit of presenting himself as a ‘secret agent’ – so secret that he unabashedly bragged about it in the media – the subversive work he was doing against Jackson could affect even Jordan’s perception of Michael. At a certain point it must have become not only jealousy but suspicions too – though he knew Michael hadn’t done any harm to him, how could he be sure that Michael hadn’t done it to others, especially if some seriously-looking and bespectacled guy presenting himself as an undercover agent assured his father (and him too) that “he knew of cases of abuse”?

As a side note it would be interesting to mention that the list of the so-called “molested” boys Jordan allegedly knew (Culkin, Brett, etc.) miraculously coincided with the list of cases described by Gutierrez in his book of lies about MJ, which he presented in five separate files  to a woman who would later become his big friend and co-conspirator in the art of slandering Michael Jackson – Diane Dimond. Gutierrez presented to her those five files even before the 1993 case started and the police began their investigation.

Dimond speaks about it to CNN on August 26, 1993:

DIMOND: Well, I’ll tell you, Mary, I was in a unique situation because Hard Copy is the only- I think I’m the only reporter, I think I can safely say that, to have seen the official documents, the official allegations against Michael Jackson. I got lucky, I’ll be honest with you. A source came to me, said, ‘I want you to see something.’ I met him at a location and looked at it, and it was a stack that thick of documents about the Michael Jackson case. We ran with it on Tuesday because I had it in front of me. I studied these documents for a long, long time, I corroborated as much as I possibly could, and I, too – like Leslie, I’ve covered a lot of child abuse stories back in New Jersey, the Kelly Michaels case, several of them – and I read the narrative of this child and it was familiar, the same terminology was used. This boy said that when he finally, in June, told the superstar that ‘I don’t want to see you anymore’ – they were in Monaco at the time – Jackson threatened him and said, ‘Well, you know, if you tell, you’re going to go to juvenile hall.’ That’s sort of a typical abuser thing to do.

Again, I want to stress, I don’t know if the documents I saw, if the narrative of this boy is true. But again, like Leslie says, I think we have a responsibility to report what we- what we know, especially about role models, and especially when it involves children. We told you on Tuesday night on Hard Copy that there were other cases involved, and last night I was able to go with- there are four other what they call corroborating- no, they call them companion cases. The L.A. Times went with it this morning. But we’re not talking about one 13-year-old boy, gee, are his parents having a custody fight. We’re talking about five separate case files. 

Diane Dimond On CNN Breaking The Chandler Story [August 26, 1993]

Of course those stories were not true. Gutierrez invented the salacious plot from beginning to end. But what’s important here is that by the time Gutierrez met the Chandler he had collected at least four more “files” about Michael Jackson which he then turned in to Diane Dimond’s Hard Copy for the sake of publicity and since then this suspect pedophile became her “best source” as she called Gutierrez herself.

Jordan could be a victim of Gutierrez’s lies too. And if Jordan Chandler also had the misfortune to listen to some learned pundits who would cram his mind with ideas of Michael “grooming” him and explaining that a mere watching TV in Michael’s room was just the first step to something sinister, then we can be sure that at some point his jealousy for the mother could turn into anger towards Michael and result in a collaboration with his father Evan.

THE SLEEPOVERS

But how come boy stayed in Michael’s room at all?

I think it was simply due to Michael leading a nocturnal way of life.

Why he developed this style is a long story but his most activity did take place at night when he could not sleep and preferred to watch TV, hang out with whoever was by his side, ride the corridors of a hotel in carts and throw water balloons from the balcony as if he were a kid, walk in the streets and even go shopping. The very first conclusion we can make from the above is that thinking that Michael was “sleeping” in bed at night would be a big fallacy – it is others who sleep in bed at night, while he was awake and busy with things people are usually busy with in the daytime.

He even preferred working at night. Recently I found a story about it told by a man who was shooting “Scream” with Michael Jackson and he said that all the work on the Scream video was done at night. Actually it is a story about an unfortunate accident he had and how much compassion Michael showed for the man:

This was a crazy big job, no doubt about it. Three stages, over a dozen sets, twenty shoot days.

On the first day of shooting we had a 7am call, except Michael was detained until mid-afternoon. Then hair and make-up, get him to the set and it’s 4:30 pm before we roll. It became clear that we would be shooting nights for the next twenty or so days. It was also clear that Michael liked it this way…working at night, that is.

As predicted, crew call switched from 7am to 4pm, and we worked throughout each night until 4-6am.

When Mark called out for a piece of the ceiling to be trimmed, I grabbed a 12-step (ladder), scrambled to the top and began sawing. In an unfortunate moment the portable saw kicked back and amputated a third of my left ring finger. Without word, I reached in my back pocket for my rag, wrapped my finger with it and stepped down off the ladder and exited the set. I passed Tom on the way out and showed him what happened. Tom escorted me to the edge of the stage and I laid down on the concrete. It wasn’t long before an entire film crew of towering bodies was in a half circle looking down at me. Union guys chewing gum. 3am. Right?

Suddenly the crowd parts and Michael appears and stands there for a moment, leaning over me, looking down. He looks at my left hand held in the air then he looks at me. Then just like that he is on his knees by my right side and he picks up my right hand and holds it in his. He looks me straight in the eye and tells me how sorry he was, he kept repeating how sorry he was, and then he had tears in his eyes and he held my hand until the ambulance came and took me away.

That next week, recovering at home, the gifts began arriving from Michael and Janet, tasteful and cool things like great soaps, a bathrobe, incense, a card. Anyway, that’s my story. Michael Jackson held my hand, too. Michael, if you read this, thanks for caring.

Source: Michael Jackson Held My Hand, Too The Venice Arts Club

Great story and I am sorry that it happened to the guy too, but we should go back to Michael’s nightly shifts.

So what was a customary routine for Michael looked extremely suspicious to the rest of the world – what is he doing there at night? Surely he cannot be just sitting on a bed, watching TV or playing video games?  It must be something sinister… I do not rule out that at some point Jordan also began thinking that even it nothing wrong had happened to him yet it would eventually come to it as all those ‘well-wishers’ around him were saying.

Jordan could easily forget that Michael was never inviting anyone to his room – they wanted to stay by his side themselves and even he, Jordan, constantly nagged his mother June for a permission to stay in Michael’s room.

These night adventures of Jordan Chandler were discussed by Sneddon and June Chandler at great length at the 2005 trial. Please note that what the prosecutor bluntly calls “sleeping with Michael Jackson” June Chandler corrects into just “staying in his bedroom”:

3 Q. When was the first time your son Jordan
4 asked if he could sleep with Michael Jackson?
5 A. I would say starting the third visit to
6 Neverland, second or third visit to Neverland,
7 because there were always boys around and staying in
8 his bedroom, and why couldn’t he? And that’s when
9 he started asking.

Since we haven’t talked about this matter for a long time I think we should refresh our memory about the sleeping arrangements Michael had with June Chandler and her kids – for example, in Las Vegas in April 1993.

ONE ROOM FOR ALL

In Las Vegas, same as in Monaco in May 1993, all the four of them occupied a three-bedroom suite where each had a room of their own. Michael had his, June and Lily had theirs and Jordan had a separate room too.

And though these are June Chandler’s own words at the 2005 trial the media people like Randall Sullivan (for example) still don’t  know about this arrangement and tell us a melodrama version about June and Michael staying in different suites and June allowing Jordan to stay in “Michael’s suite” only on condition they keep to separate rooms there, so on and so forth.

Sullivan’s soap opera describes June being in an “emotional strain” though from what I’ve read of her she seems to be made of concrete and stone instead of human feelings:

Speaking through an emotional strain that was quite convincing, June delivered the most devastating moments of testimony against Michael Jackson that were heard during the entire trial. Shortly after telling her son that he would not be allowed to stay in the same suite with Michael unless they slept in separate bedrooms, June recalled, she heard a knock at the door of her own hotel room (R.Sullivan)

“Her own hotel room” is one of the false details you’ve surely overlooked. The reality was different – all were staying in one three-room suite and moreover, all of the four of them slept in one room the first night they stayed in Las Vegas. It was June Chandler’s room, which is a fact that surprised even Sneddon:

1 And who was in your room when you first got
2 there? Who was staying in your room?
3 A. Jordan, myself, Lily and Michael.
4 Q. All in the same room?
5 A. Correct.
I wonder why June Chandler did not say a word about her family being taken by Michael to the royal dinner in Monaco

I wonder why June Chandler did not say a word at the 2005 trial about her family being taken by Michael to the royal dinner in Monaco. May 1993

To understand a couple of things about June Chandler and the real events behind her story we need to reconstruct those several notable days she and her kids spent with Michael Jackson in Las Vegas in April 1993.  In order to do that we need to revisit June Chandler’s testimony once again.

JUNE CHANDLER’S VERSION

According to June Chandler the second night of their stay in Las Vegas “things changed” which in that context means that during the second night Jordan stayed in Michael’s room and this was his “first time” ever:

6 Q. Now, did those arrangements change at any
7 point in time?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. And when did they change?
10 A. The second night things changed.
11 Q. With regard to “things changed,” could you
12 tell me what changed first?
13 A. Well, there were approximately three
14 bedrooms in that suite at the Mirage Hotel. Lily
15 and I were staying in one bedroom, Jordie had
16 another bedroom, and Michael had another bedroom.
17 The second night, they were going to see a
18 performance, Cirque du Soleil performance.

On the other hand we remember from some other sources that the “first time” started with the Exorcist movie and not the Cirque du Soleil performance. However from June Chandler’s account we find that she is not quite in the picture as she says that she was only “told about the movie”.

Well, she is not the first one to be only told about things. Previously we had another instance of it when everyone except Tom Sneddon was also “told” that Michael’s photos of intimate parts supposedly “matched” Jordan’s description. It was a match so “good” that even Jordan’s lawyer demanded that they should be barred from the trial (in order not to dismay the accuser of MJ and disrupt their lawsuit against him). Here is an article about it: http://articles.latimes.com/1994-01-05/local/me-8514_1_michael-jackson

I’ve just reminded you of it in case you forgot, so let’s not deviate from the Exorcist point further: 

3 Q. Okay. At some point did you all see an
4 Exorcist movie?
5 A. No.
6 Q. Do you recall anyone watching an Exorcist
7 movie?
8 A. I was told Jordan and Michael watched an
9 Exorcist movie.

How can we explain that there are two contradictory reports about the first time Jordan stayed in Michael’s room though both of them are part of one and the same June Chandler’s testimony?

We can explain this discrepancy only by the fact that when Michael and Jordan were watching the movie (if they did of course) June Chandler simply didn’t know about it. It must have happened on the first night in Vegas when they were sleeping in her room. Evidently Michael could not fall asleep as usual and went to another room to watch TV or play a video and Jordan also sneaked into that room and after watching the movie was too afraid or unwilling to leave it.

This will explain the scene that took place the next morning between June and Jordan: 

10 Q. All right. Did you ever object to Jordie
11 sleeping in Michael’s room on that trip?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. And what did you say?
14 A. “Jordie, when you come home, go to your bed.
15 Go to your own bed. Come to our bed, not to
16 Michael’s bed.”
17 He said, “Mom, I want to stay there.” And I
18 was very upset about that.

She was very upset about that? In fact from what June Chandler further says it looks like it was she who actually suggested that Jordan should not be restricted from staying in Michael’s room at all. However this suggestion came later as the first time she did seem to reprimand Jordan, and since this matter is important, let’s make a note of it.

The second night Jordan and Michael were to attend a Cirque du Soleil show, however on the way there Jordan evidently told Michael that his mother had earlier scolded him for staying  in the same room where Michael was watching the movie. This made Michael return to their hotel suite and ask June why she objected to it:

17 The second night, they were going to see a
18 performance, Cirque du Soleil performance.
1 I -- there’s a knock on the door and it’s Michael
2 and Jordan, and they came back into the suite.
…
25 A. He said, “You don’t trust me? We’re a
26 family. Why are you doing this? Why are you not
27 allowing Jordie to be with me?” And I said, “He is
28 with you.” 5618
1 He said, “But my bedroom. Why not in my
2 bedroom? We fall asleep, the kids have fun.

Though the “bedroom” issue is somewhat overemphasized here (it might have easily been the common  living room) it is clear that Michael questions were reasonable and that he was deeply offended by her suspicion of a mere possibility of some wrongdoing on his part. In Michael’s view the fact that the boy had trailed after him to another room to watch a film there and finally fell asleep on wherever Michael was lying at that moment is no big deal – his living in a crammed house in his childhood and many years of hotel tours with brothers had taught him long ago that this was the only way of living at all.

Even if it was no social standard Michael simply didn’t realize it as he had never experienced anything else, and staying alone for him was as unnatural as sleeping in the midst of a crowd for us. So what did she mean then by reprimanding the boy for this trifle? No one did anything wrong…

Sneddon of course interpreted it his way and described it bluntly as Mr. Jackson saying “he wanted Jordan to sleep with him in his bed”. In reality Michael was asking June why the boy could not watch TV together with him and sleep on his bed if he felt too afraid to leave.

When Sneddon asked her his question June Chandler suddenly blurted out something which took aback even Sneddon – she spoke of no restrictions and that Jordan should decide for himself where to sleep, and added that these were her words. Please also note that Michael says that Jordan was having fun (and not sleeping) which again shows to us that all of it was about “hanging out”again:

7 Q. BY MR. SNEDDON: All right. Tell us what -  
8 Mr. Jackson said that he wanted your son to sleep
9 with him in his bed - what you said to Mr. Jackson.
10 A. What I said to Michael was, “This is not” --
11 “This is not anything that I want. This is not
12 right. Jordie should be able to do what he wants to
13 do. He should be able to fall asleep where he wants
14 to sleep.”
15 Q. Is this you talking or Mr. Jackson speaking?
16 A. I was saying this. And Michael was
17 trembling and saying, “We’re a family. Jordie is
18 having fun. Why can’t he sleep in my bed? There’s
19 nothing wrong. There’s nothing going on. Don’t you
20 trust me?” 

Thomas Meserau didn’t overlook the fact that it was actually June Chandler who suggested that Jordan should sleep wherever he liked and pressed this point to make sure that the jury heard it correctly:  

21 Q. And he said words to you to the effect that,
22 “We’re family,” right?
23 A. Correct.
24 Q. You suggested that you let Jordie sleep
25 wherever he wants to sleep, right?
26 A. Yes.

Sneddon however pretended he hadn’t heard of her suggestion and portrayed the picture of the poor mother finally relenting to the pressure from Jackson. She followed the lead:

20 Q. Did you at some point in time relent and
21 allow your son to sleep with Michael Jackson in his
22 bedroom?
23 A. Yes, I did.
24 Q. And was it after that discussion on that
25 night?
26 A. Yes.
27 Q. Is that the first occasion?
28 A. Correct.

Then Sneddon goes on with his verbal manipulations and connects June Chandler’s answer to the fact that Michael bought her a bracelet, insinuating that it was some kind of payment for her “relenting” to MJ. Again and again he calls the matter “sleeping” with Jackson while sleep is actually the last word to use for this kind of activities.

We know of those activities from Frank Cascio who described how they usually spent nights when they were touring with Jackson –  they talked, watched TV and discussed music, up to listening to the French Impressionism composer of the 19th century Claude Debussy to whose music Michael preferred to sleep (we should try it one day, it should be fantastic):

“…we sat rapt, listening for hours as Michael played DJ, saying, “You have to listen to this song. Now you have to hear this group.” We listened to Stevie Wonder and all of the Motown stars. He had us listen to the James Brown song “Papa Don’t Take No Mess” —all fourteen minutes of it. We listened to the Bee Gees song “How Deep Is Your Love?” (I still believe that it’s one of the greatest songs of all time.) Michael went on about Aaron Copland, whom he considered the greatest composer of the twentieth century.

He introduced me to all types of music—country, folk, classical, funk, rock. He even turned me on to Barbra Streisand. I fell in love with her song “People.” Michael liked to go to sleep to classical music, especially the works of Claude Debussy.”

(from “My friend Michael” by Frank Cascio)

However for Sneddon everything is plain, primitive and disgustingly black and white – first the  mother agreed to sleepovers (actually suggested them, as we know) and then her consent was “paid” for with an expensive bracelet.  Sneddon’s vocabulary is again revolving about “sleeping” in Michael’s bed:

6 Q. Now, at some point in time after you had
7 agreed to let your son Jordan sleep with Mr.
8 Jackson, were you the recipient of a gift from Mr.
9 Jackson?
10 A. Yes, I was.
11 Q. Would you describe that to the jury?
12 A. It was a gold bracelet, and it was given to
13 me by Michael.
14 Q. And you say “a gold bracelet.” Had you seen
15 that gold bracelet in a shop of some kind before?
16 A. I had seen it before, yes.
17 Q. And the brand name on that bracelet?
18 A. Cartier.
19 Q. Was it expensive, to your knowledge?
20 A. Oh, I -- yes, it was.
21 Q. When was it you received this gift in
22 relationship to having agreed to allow your son to
23 sleep in bed with Mr. Jackson?
24 A. I think it was the next evening when we were
25 attending a show, a magic show, by David
26 Copperfield.

Sneddon’s logic does not know hesitation – she “agreed” and therefore MJ bought her an expensive bracelet “in relationship to having agreed”. The reality is much more different of course.   First of all, June Chandler says it herself that the gift came on a different occasion, the morning after they saw a David Copperfield show, which was the next day. The show was attended by Michael and the two children and was followed by a dinner for all the four of them. Evidently the dinner and everything that followed it was so insignificant to her that now she “doesn’t recall”. However I highly doubt that it was something unimportant as it was after that night that Michael bought June Chandler a love bracelet.

We’ve got these details from Thomas Mesereau. Let us note that the defense attorney is asking these questions  because he was advised about it by Michael Jackson who evidently remembered that notable evening better.

19 Q. Okay. Now, you mentioned that during that
20 trip, you went to the David Copperfield show; is
21 that right?
22 A. Correct.
23 Q. And who went to that show?
24 A. Jordan, Lily and Michael.
25 Q. Did the four of you have dinner that night
26 together?
27 A. I don’t recall.
28 Q. Okay. Did Michael give you his credit card 5695
1 on that trip?
2 A. No.

Okay, so the shopping spree with Michael’s credit card would come later – during the visit to Monaco in May 1993.  But what was the gift Michael gave June Chandler in April that year? We do know that it is called a love bracelet, but what is it like? Was there anything special about the bracelet which Michael selected in Jordan’s presence and gave June Chandler the next day after they had dinner together in Las Vegas?

22 Q. Okay. When did Michael go to Cartier and
23 buy you that jewelry?
24 A. When we went to Las Vegas.
25 Q. Was he with you when he did that?
26 A. No.
27 Q. Did he do it on his own?
28 A. He did it with Jordie. 5694
1 Q. Okay. And did he come back and give it to
2 you?
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. Okay. Now, you described that to the Los
5 Angeles District Attorney as a love bracelet, did
6 you not?
7 A. Yes.
8 Q. Is that what it was?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. What is a love bracelet?
11 A. It’s a bracelet that’s a gold bracelet and
12 that’s what it’s called.
13 Q. Okay. Had you ever told Michael Jackson you
14 liked that kind of jewelry?
15 A. No.
16 Q. Were you surprised when he bought it for
17 you?
18 A. Yes.

While Tom Sneddon mostly talked about the high price of the bracelet, Thomas Mesereau focused on its name and significance for June (and Michael), however all she said was that it’s name was “a love bracelet”.

Initially I didn’t even pay attention – so what of it? All of us know that jewelry is usually regarded as a token of love and tenderness for a person to whom it is presented, and Michael (together with Jordan) could have chosen any item and okay, Michael chose this one – so what difference does it make?

But this time I decided to really look and now see that it makes all the difference in the world.

A LOVE BRACELET

When I found the picture of this bracelet its appearance didn’t produce the impression I expected it would. However the price of it is still impressive. Cartier keeps you guessing about it and asks clients to contact them for the price, so I had to look elsewhere and got the following information from someone who knows:

Yellow gold, sans diamonds: $3,600
Yellow gold, half diamonds (5): $7,250
Yellow gold, full diamonds (10): (around $11,000)

White gold, sans diamonds - $4,200
White gold, half diamonds - $7,550
White gold, full diamonds - I do not know
http://forum.purseblog.com/the-jewelry-box/price-of-the-cartier-love-bracelet-66933.html

Cartier-Love-Bracelet-GoldSomething tells me that Michael Jackson bought June Chandler the most expensive bracelet for which our respondent even doesn’t know the price.

However apart from the price it is actually the story behind the bracelet which turned out to be really breathtaking.

A love bracelet is given to a woman on a very special occasion when a man wants to convey to her that he is locking himself up with her in a kind of a solemn ritual. In fact the bracelet even comes in a set with a key used by the man when he places this bracelet on her wrist and locks it up with it. Love bracelets are often supplied with a small screwdriver used by him to fix both of its parts together so that she never takes it off.

The story of the bracelet goes far back into the Middle ages when men used to go to war and lock their lovers’ intimate parts with a  so-called chastity belt and kept the key for themselves (if it isn’t a fantasy of course). In modern days it was only Cartier who developed a similar bracelet to symbolize more or less the same thing.

Here is the history of the bracelet told by its purchaser who visited the Cartier boutique and was provided with this information. He calls this symbolic  jewelry  the “Cartier Prisoner of Love Bracelet”:

Cartier-Love-Bracelet-Gold1

The Cartier “Prisoner of Love” Bracelt comes in a set with a key to lock it up

Over 24 years ago, in the summer of 1969, a young Cartier staff designer created a remarkable new item that was to become one of the most famous status symbols of our age. The designer was the late Aldo Cipullo…and the item was the Cartier “Love Bracelet”.

A student of history Cipullo’s early work centered around modern interpretations of ancient design terms and legends. One particular medieval practice (fact or fiction?) especially fascinated him: the story that warriors, prior to going off to battle, often “locked up” their wives around the waist with iron “chastity belts” to preserve the fidelity of the their marriage. Cipullo’s desire to create a modern-day symbol of a “locked up”, committed relationship led him to the design of a two-piece bracelet that had to be bolted together to encircle the wrist. And thus was born the “Love Bracelet” and its accompanying screwdriver.

Cartier-Love-Bracelet-Gold2

The Cartier Love Bracelet can also come with a tiny screwdriver to fix it

Cartier management, quickly catching the spirit of the item, launched the product with a startling and unprecedented purchasing policy: customer were not allowed to buy a “Love Bracelet” for themselves! The Cartier regulation firmly said that no one was permitted to purchase one for their own wrist!

As part of the launch of the product, and to reinforce the “lovers only” message, Cartier presented “his-and-hers” bracelets to 25 famous couples chosen from the fields of entertainment, business, communications, society, and sports. In light-hearted “ceremonies” conducted in Cartier’s Fifth Avenue boutique, these notable “lovers” locked each other up and formally exchanged screw drivers. All loved it, the fun began, and the item was off and running.

Cartier-Love-Bracelet-Gold4

This Bracelet is also called “Prisoner of Love Bracelet”. It is never bought by her and is always bought by him (or vice versa).

Soon, stylish people all around New York and across the country rushed to get one. Photos of celebrities began to appear in newspapers and magazines with that distinctive band of gold gleaming at the wrist. Before long, a “waiting list” had to be created because the demand for the bracelet had vastly outpaced the ability of the Cartier workshop to make them.

By 1973, the roster of “Love Bracelet” owners included Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton, Nancy and Frank Sinatra, Cary Grant and Dyan Cannon, Ali McGraw and Steve McQueen, Mai Britt and Sammy Davis, Jr. and many other famous couples for around the world. The bracelet had become so well [known] that it was often humorously cited as the definitive measurement of a lover’s commitment (e.g. “Do you love me enough for the Cartier ‘Love Bracelet'”?) As the years passed, the appetite for this extraordinary item continued to grow.

As this “love story” enters its 25th year, new customers every day continue to discover for themselves the special wit and style of the Love Bracelet. And, at the same time, another whole generation of celebrity wrists have appeared “locked up” in this famous Cartier shackle: Barbara Streisand, Diana Ross, Joan Collins, Jane Seymour, Princess Diana, Linda Evans, Lionel Ritchie, Kenny Rogers, Reggie Jackson, John McEnroe, Elton John....the list goes on and on.

Today, the Cartier “Love Bracelet” remains the world’s most celebrated and desirable wrist ornament.

When I visited a Cartier boutique and asked when the “Cartier Prisoner of Love Bracelet” was introduced, I was provided a sheet with the above information.

http://www.oocities.org/heartland/farm/9889/lovebrace.html

 Wow….. So for a woman it is a status symbol and is the most desirable wrist ornament because it symbolizes his commitment to her?   And even measures this commitment with “Do you love me enough for it”?

Well, now I understand why Thomas Mesereau paid so much attention to the name of that bracelet. And why he wondered if she ever asked for it (or whether Michael did it on his own) and if it was a surprise.

And a surprise it was. Michael took a decision himself.  I wonder what circumstances brought him to give her a romantic symbol like that…

He was so trusting

Imagine him locking the bracelet up on June Chandler’s wrist with a key or a screwdriver in his hands and I am sure as I don’t know what that it will boggle the mind of every woman visualizing the scene. In fact the sight of it must have been no less powerful than Michael’s kissing Lisa Marie on stage. All of us would have loved to see that great and intimate moment …

13 Q. Had you ever told Michael Jackson you
14 liked that kind of jewelry?
15 A. No.
16 Q. Were you surprised when he bought it for
17 you?
18 A. Yes.

Well, it does not surprise you any longer that it was after that trip to Las Vegas that June Chandler invited Michael to stay in her house, does it? As to me, I am not surprised.

It doesn’t surprise me either that from then on he came back home every day from work exactly by dinner time to sit down to the family dinner of the four of them.

And now I understand even better than before why Sneddon never asked the maid who lived in June Chandler’s house to make her appearance at the 2005 trial and testify about what she saw in June’s house. Just imagine, even the name of this woman is not known to us until today – this is how much they were afraid of her testimony!

I would also love to know a token of what that bracelet was…

(end of part 1)

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  1. Miha permalink
    February 2, 2015 12:04 am

    “Again, I want to stress, I don’t know if the documents I saw, if the narrative of this boy is true. But again, like Leslie says, I think we have a responsibility to report what we- what we know, especially about role models, and especially when it involves children.”

    Oh my gosh Diane Dimond… When ever I hear her speak it infuriates me, because it’s always so stupid. Running a story on alleged sexual abuse is a serious deal and she didn’t even know if the documents she saw were true!

    Honestly, I shouldn’t be surprised anymore. This is consistent with what I’ve seen of Diane Dimond so far… just bad journalism all around.

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  2. December 27, 2013 2:42 pm

    “1 He said, “But my bedroom. Why not in my
    2 bedroom? We fall asleep, the kids have fun.
    The more I read this, I dont think the conversation is about Jordan hanging around in Michaels sleeping quarters in a hotel..”- Nan

    Nan, what an excellent observation! “The kids have fun” – you are right, June Chandler is stretching the truth here and is probably repeating a conversation that could take place with with MJ, but not in a hotel, but in Neverland. And there was a episode about it in her testimony:

    3 Q. When was the first time your son Jordan
    4 asked if he could sleep with Michael Jackson?
    5 A. I would say starting the third visit to
    6 Neverland, second or third visit to Neverland,
    7 because there were always boys around and staying in
    8 his bedroom, and why couldn’t he? And that’s when
    9 he started asking.
    10 Q. And was it your understanding that there
    11 were a lot of kids hanging around Michael Jackson’s
    12 bedroom?
    13 A. Yes.

    Over here June Chandler is describing their third stay in Neverland when they met the Cascios there. Frank Cascio also remembers that visit. Jordan surely wanted to stay with the whole company:

    Later that night our conversation turned to Jordy, who was staying with his mother and sister in the guest bungalows. I said, “Oh, he’s really really nice. Next time you come to New York, you should bring him to our house.”
    “Yeah, we should bring him to New York—he’s never been there,” Michael replied.
    “Why isn’t Jordy staying with us?” I asked.
    “I don’t know—Jordy never stays in my room,” Michael answered. “I like it to be just us so we can catch up.”

    So that night the three of us talked in front of the fire until around two in the morning, at which point we decided to raid the refrigerator. We went to the kitchen and warmed up vanilla pudding (one of Michael’s favorite snacks) in the microwave, gathered chips, orange Creamsicles, vanilla wafers, and juice boxes, brought them back to the room, and stayed up until four in the morning talking and listening to Michael’s fascinating stories.

    As he would do again in future visits, Michael offered the bed to me and Eddie and said he’d sleep on the floor, but we ended up all sleeping on the floor. I loved to fall asleep near the dying crackle of the fire. From that visit until I was old enough to want privacy, whenever I went to Neverland I made my bed right next to the fireplace. Let me be absolutely clear: odd as it may seem for an adult to have “sleepovers” with a couple of kids, there was nothing sexual about them—nothing that was apparent to me then, as a child, and nothing that I can see now, as a grown man scrutinizing the past. They were harmless. Michael was truly just a kid at heart. The next day we slept until midday. Michael’s chef, Buckey, was famous for his burgers. We had Buckey burgers and fries for lunch. Then Michael said, “You have two thousand seven hundred acres. Be free. Do what you want.” He urged us to explore on our own, but what we wanted most of all was to be around him and to have him show us what to do. So we spent the day playing in the arcade and running around Neverland together. Michael was game for anything.

    That night, Michael suggested that we all go to Toys “R” Us. I wondered if his chauffeur was going to take us, but Michael said, “No, I’m going to drive.”

    So we piled into an ugly brown Dodge Caravan. I sat in the front, and my brother, June, Jordy, and his sister sat in the back. Michael Jackson, wearing a fedora, drove us to the store. I said, “I can’t believe you’re driving.” I had never seen Michael drive a car. It was quite a sight.

    When we arrived at Toys “R” Us, the lights were on, but the doors were locked. My heart sank, but then several of the staff members hurried to the door, unlocked it, and said, “Hello, Mr. Jackson, come on in!” They had clearly been awaiting our arrival. The store was completely empty of other shoppers. It felt like Christmas. Michael grabbed an empty cart and said, “Go ahead, get whatever you like.” We knew that this meant that we had the run of the whole store. There was no limit to what we could buy. But my brother and I weren’t comfortable just filling up a cart with toys. Jordy seemed to feel the same way. We zoomed through the aisles, relishing the feeling that the store was open for us. It was ours. But when it came down to making actual purchases, we just selected a handful of small items, nothing too crazy. We were extremely respectful. Besides, there would be plenty to enjoy when we got back to Neverland. Michael, meanwhile, had quickly stacked three carts full of toys that he wanted.

    Michael loved to collect toys. He didn’t necessarily play with them, or even take them out of their packages. But he sure loved to buy them. At Neverland he had a toy room full of unopened toys that he was saving as collector’s items.

    (Frank Cascio “My Friend Michael”)

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  3. Nan permalink
    December 27, 2013 9:54 am

    Tatum Marie
    I agree , she was playing him from the get go.
    If you look at her pattern , she doesnt completely lose a husband until she has another lined up.
    I think LMP having problems in her marriage ,and MJ thinking he might have a chance with her, put the Chandlers on the back burner.
    I do wonder if Jordan changing his mind and going along with Evan , had to do with the fact that June signed some kind of custody papers for Evan to have him temporarily.
    Not just with him being under Evans control at that time, but realizing how important MJ was to June ..to keep that mealticket in her life ,because she claims Mj pressured her.
    That would make him second banana to both June and MJ ..which might incite a child to get revenge..just thinking out loud.

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  4. TatumMarie permalink
    December 27, 2013 1:09 am

    Exactly. The concerns were reasonable for a mother but in her case were a manipulation tactic.

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  5. Nan permalink
    December 26, 2013 9:23 pm

    Tatum Marie,
    I agree..She is talking about believing he will be sticking around for her and her children ..She has had two bad husbands and neither of them seemed to step up to the plate for Jordan or Lily..
    Which to me , is why MJ was making the effort to go to the house everyday and show up for her , like he had made a commitment to this family.
    When you look at it from that perspective, which Sneddon refused to see, and you read Evan and Mr Schwartz taped conversation, it sounds like Evan knows June is going to lose out to LMP, and she will be alone again and it will effect his son.
    At least that is how I interpet it, and he wants money so he can be around, supposedly for his son, and resents MJ distancing himself from all of them , including the husbands , who thought he could help them in business as well

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  6. TatumMarie permalink
    December 26, 2013 1:32 pm

    It wasn’t Michael that she didn’t trust with her children it was men in general. In the transcripts I believe she said she didn’t trust the kids fathers either. When I read her testimony it sounded like the conversation was more about Michael coming in and out the families life, she wanted more stability. Sneddon was just trying to twist the meaning to concern about bed sharing, then again, who knows what she elaborated or twisted herself.

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  7. Nan permalink
    December 26, 2013 1:28 am

    This part of Junes testimony
    25 A. He said, “You don’t trust me? We’re a
    26 family. Why are you doing this? Why are you not
    27 allowing Jordie to be with me?” And I said, “He is
    28 with you.” 5618
    1 He said, “But my bedroom. Why not in my
    2 bedroom? We fall asleep, the kids have fun.
    ———————-
    The more I read this, I dont think the conversation is about Jordan hanging around in Michaels sleeping quarters in a hotel..I think it is about , why she wont let him join the other kids who are all crashing and having fun in his huge bedroom at Neverland.
    Because he says “we fall asleep, the kids have fun”
    At least I think that was why he was initially upset
    It wasnt about two people being alone in a room
    I just get the impression , JC probably told him ,his mother, told him not to bother him , and sleep in their room and also,told him , she wont even let me join all you guys in your bedroom with the Cascios and others,
    And JC is being quiet while this is all going on , because he has essentially ratted out his mother , and now MJ is confronting her, so Jordan can do what he wants.
    Which would make sense that she would reply , JC can sleep where he wants to sleep
    Like it wasnt her preventing him from joining all the guys at night in MJ room

    In Franks book, he mentions that MJ doesnt know why JC doesnt join them, .Evidently MJ was under the impression , the boy didnt want to..But from this conversation , it seems to me , he is just finding out , that it is because of June , wont allow it, and he is rightfully upset.
    June doesnt trust him with her child unsupervised , yet she is willing to get a private plane and go to Vegas with him.
    Then she pulls the sob story about her ex husbands and not being able to trust a new man in her life, and MJ takes the bait, gives her a bracelet , and makes the effort to be in all their lives , showing up for dinner , even when the kids arent there, I noticed in testimony,,Sometimes it was just her, he was having dinner with.
    Does homework with the kids, gets up in the morning and goes to work.
    They were like a family.

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  8. john lenin permalink
    December 25, 2013 10:41 pm

    “He even preferred working at night.” This is a great observation; in Spike Lee’s documentary “Bad25”, MJ’s co-choreographer for the Bad video mentions working with MJ in the early morning hours so this info checks out.

    All I can say is keep up the good work; Hopefully this work of yours will gradually awaken people to the lies of mainstream media about MJ.

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  9. john lenin permalink
    December 25, 2013 10:36 pm

    Read this just now; This is an awesome post; it does fill in the gaps on the many inconsistencies of the 1993 allegations. After reading the rubbish by Taraborelli, I find it hard to believe that there was nothing between June and MJ, far from it actually.

    “He even preferred working at night.”

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  10. January 31, 2013 9:26 pm

    Re the Guardin article. Sullivan gets cosy with Thome of all people! Why did he not also pay Murray a visit in jail,he, Murray,who claimed to be Michaels only friend.With friends like that….
    Michael got 3 severe blows during his lifetime. The first set in motion by Evan C., the second by Bashir,the third by Thome, Randy Phillips & AEG.

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  11. January 30, 2013 11:51 pm

    “I absolutely loved your article about MJ’s enemies being “one happy family”. MJ always said there was a conspiracy against him, and many people didnt believe him. To see it in such an honest and direct way as in that article, I mean with evidence and everything, its amazing!! I think you should put it out on Youtube so that more people can see it for themselves.”

    Fatima, this article wasn’t written by me – it was written by another author here, David Edwards. As to the table where you see all those characters interconnected with each other it was first made by a group of researchers who called the results of their work “The Veritas Project” (veritas – Latin for Truth).

    It was made in January 2005, just before the trial began. It was then that these people already showed who was who in the campaign against Michael. We have the Veritas project here in the blog:https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/veritas-project/ It is a very comprehensive research. David took the matter further and added some data to it.

    Of course it should be put on Youtube. However we need to check Youtube first – probably the Veritas people have already done something about it.

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  12. January 30, 2013 11:41 pm

    “this is the sort of trash-talking I meant before http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/jan/26/michael-jackson-online-thought-police

    Fatima, this highly biased Guardian journalist says:

    Beware of Michael Jackson’s online thought police
    Jacko’s vigilante fans have attempted to preserve their idol’s reputation by bombarding a new biography of him with one-star reviews
    Deborah Orr
    The Guardian, Saturday 26 January 2013

    Cyberspace is home to a bewildering number of vigilante groups policing all sorts of perceived thought crimes. Among them is a bunch of enthusiastic Michael Jackson fans, who patrol the internet in search of words that sully the perfection of their idol’s posthumous reputation. Their latest strike is against a biography by one Randall Sullivan, entitled: Untouchable: The Strange Life and Tragic Death of Michael Jackson, which has received 100 one-star reviews on Amazon. One thing is clear, though: it’s not the idea that Jackson was or should remain “untouchable” that they object to. They toil to keep Jackson’s image protected from prying eyes or minds, residing undisturbed in Neverland for ever.

    Well, if this woman thinks that it is only Michael’s fans who give one star to Sullivan’s book, here is what Roger Friedman (who is no fan of Michael Jackson) has to say about the book. I think it won’t be a bad idea to inform Deborah Carr of her fellow journalist’s views on it:

    Michael Jackson: Correcting the New, and Not Very Good, Book About the Pop Star

    11/13/12 12:47am Roger Friedman

    Randall Sullivan is just overwhelmed by his material, but gets lots of stuff wrong in his new book about Michael Jackson, called “Untouchable.” The book is panned by Michiko Kakutani in today’s New York Times.

    For example, Jackson hosted a Christmas in Bahrain for friends from the U.S. (which I reported exclusively at the time). Sullivan says Michael was thrilled when “Frank Cascio and his family” arrived. Wrong. Frank Cascio never went to Bahrain. He even said so in his book this year. Michael didn’t see Frank Cascio from some time before he was arrested in November 2003 until Jackson arrived at the Cascios’ home in New Jersey (which I also reported exclusively) in August 2007.

    Sullivan’s main problem is that he wasn’t there for any of it, but tried to cash in on Michael Jackson once he died. Imagine someone writing a biography of Batman and only interviewing the Penguin, the Riddler, Catwoman, and the Joker. The writer fails to speak to Robin, Alfred or Commissioner Gordon.

    Sullivan’s sources are a rogues’ gallery of adversaries: Tohme, Raymone Bain, Brian Oxman, Ray Chandler (brother of Evan, uncle of Jordie), Raymone Bain, etc. Former lawyer Oxman was disbarred on July 6, 2012, which Sullivan only mentions as an aside late in his book. He needed him as a legit source.

    Tohme wormed his way into Jackson’s life, and had to be excised in the final months by people who actually cared about Jackson. Apparently, Sullivan and Tohme became quite close. According to his alarming notes in the book:

    “At the time, I was trying to help Tohme settle his differences with both the Jackson family and the Michael Jackson estate (and, of course, collect whatever useful information might surface in the process).”

    Conflicts of interest abound: buried deep in the book is this revelation: Sullivan introduced Katherine Jackson to her new lawyer, Perry Sanders, who was also Sullivan’s friend. Then Sullivan turned around and used Sanders and his associate Sandy Ribera as sources. Sullivan even admits he gave Ribera a first draft of the book to comment on. What is going on here?

    As for Tohme: I’ve never met him, but for a time I listened to his prevarications on the phone. These included that he was a doctor of some kind, and a special ambassador to Senegal. He conceded to me that he was actually not a licensed physician finally. He held on to the ambassador story.

    I received this email on March 23, 2009 from the Senegal embassy in Washington DC:

    Mansour,
    Senegal has no Ambassador at large in that name. the Ambassadors at large
    are senegalese citizen. It is possible to have alien as ambassador for a
    specific reason, fight for women freedom, goodwill ambassador etc..
    But I don’t know this Mr. Tohme.
    Fatoumata B. NDAO
    Counselor
    Health, Environment & Education
    Embassy of Senegal

    Sullivan doesn’t like this piece of information. He says in his notes that I “found someone” with the Embassy who didn’t know Tohme. He says he’s seen Tohme’s Senegalese passport, with the words ‘special ambassador’ written in by the country’s dictator, er, president for life. Well, I have the email chain from the embassy. And unless Sullivan can i.d. the handwriting of the president, I think there’s a problem.

    “Untouchable” is full of assumptions. And to get away with it, Sullivan admits to them in the back of his book. He writes: “I acknowledge that the long plastic surgery section in this chapter could be described as interpretive, perhaps even as opinionated. It was the result of nearly three years of research and dozens of conversations with people who knew MJ. The point of view is my own, but it’s an informed point of view.” Huh? He wrote a 700 page book but doesn’t have the facts. His informed point of view, plus 3 bucks, will get you a copy of the National Enquirer.

    I do take particular exception with Sullivan’s intent to throw Michael’s long time friend and manager, the late Frank DiLeo, under the bus so to speak. DiLeo was a complex man, certainly. But he loved Michael and vice versa. Early on Frank was cheated out of millions that he could have made from Thriller and Bad.

    After he and Michael split, Frank’s life was full of financial difficulties. As others grew rich from his projects, he struggled. Now Sullivan, taking Tohme’s side, thinks he can paint DiLeo as a villain to Tohme’s hero. I won’t allow it. Frank knew a charlatan when he saw one, and he disliked Tohme from the start. Now Tohme gets to exact his revenge against a dead man– and Sullivan is only too happy to help in exchange for his “exclusive” interview.

    Also wrong, wrong, wrong: Frank DiLeo had open heart surgery at Cedars Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles on March 21, 2011. He did not “check into a hospital in Pittsburgh.” Frank languished in coma at Cedars Sinai for three months until he was moved to a facility in Pittsburgh.

    And there’s more that Sullivan gets wrong, like how the story broke that Jackson and his kids stayed in New Jersey in the summer and fall of 2007–there’s the story: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312120,00.html. What Sullivan has done is chop up a lot of pieces he’s found in research, mash them together and put them in a blender on high speed. The result is something that tastes and smells bad.

    http://www.showbiz411.com/2012/11/13/michael-jackson-correcting-the-new-and-not-very-good-book-about-the-pop-star

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  13. Fatima(Fatti) permalink
    January 30, 2013 10:50 pm

    this is the sort of trash-talking I meant before http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/jan/26/michael-jackson-online-thought-police

    Thing is every time you come to MJ’s defense and try to lay out simple facts the media and the rest of the haters try to wave you off as an “MJ-lunatic”, “MJ-groupie” etc. Since they cant get to MJ anymore they try to get to MJ’s supporters. But I really believe its important for us to do whatever we can to get the truth out there, it really does make a difference! For example back in 2005 it felt like I was one of the few that still supported and believed in his innocence, while both in real life and online, comments about him were really just disgusting. I can really tell that a shift towards the opposite is coming now as more and more people are being exposed to the truth and thus showing their support to MJ🙂

    Btw, I absolutely loved your article about MJ’s enemies being “one happy family”. MJ always said there was a conspiracy against him, and many people didnt believe him. To see it in such an honest and direct way as in that article, I mean with evidence and everything, its amazing!! I think you should put it out on Youtube so that more people can see it for themselves.

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  14. January 30, 2013 5:27 pm

    Of course we will not sink to their level, VMJ. Don´t worry.

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  15. January 30, 2013 3:03 pm

    “Bloodmoney thats called. What they are living off.”

    Kaarin, even if they are, leave the job of the revenge to the Almighty. He will find a way to punish them in a way no living human being is able to. If they do not come clean with the truth their name will be forever stained with blood for what they did to Michael. It is the same fate as that of Judah Iscariot.

    Judah Iscariot also bought a field with the blood money he got for his betrayal, but it all ended with hanging himself on a tree. I hear that the plot of land he bought is still unoccupied by anyone until today.

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  16. January 30, 2013 2:46 pm

    “So he had a choice, imo , to come in and testify about the man who supposedly molested him and continued on to molest a cancer victim , be filthy rich and do whatever he wanted professionally or personally , but instead refused and although, incredible wealthy, and enjoys that wealth immensely”– nannorris

    Yes, Jordan Chandler is filthy rich, but money is not everything in life. He, like everyone else, also seeks respect from others and wants to feel that he has reasons to respect himself for. Deny him both and he will not be able to enjoy even his riches.

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  17. January 30, 2013 2:39 pm

    “The media always gives the impression that Gavin and Jordan are secluded, afraid of their lives, and have been forced to change their names because of “crazy fans”. The media really loves to portray us that way, thus giving us a bad name and less credibility also”

    Fatti, this is just another point of the media agenda. Now we have found ourselves in a situation when the media and Michael’s haters have practically dropped their masks, and declared an almost open war on Michael’s fans and supporters. That is why we should be impeccable in our behavior. In fact this is what Michael would always want us to be like.

    “I visited the emory mock trial fb page (where gavin attend). Also many MJ fans are “following” him there. If he was so bothered, he would’ve removed them. Part of him simply loves the attention he gets of being associated with MJ.”

    All this is part of the game Gavin, Zonen and the media are playing with us. I don’t have ready recipes for the situation, but am so disgusted by Gavin that don’t even want to see him or anything connected with him. If you accidentally carry home a piece of dog sh*t on the back of your shoes you clean it off and throw it away, and not marvel at its sight and smell.

    Brett Barnes’ mother was right when she said something like “the less you touch sh*t the less smelly it is”.

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  18. January 30, 2013 2:21 pm

    “Yeah, not too hard to get info on him , for someone supposedly in fear for his life . Give me a break.
    I am terrible at the computer , still havent mastered twitter so this info , just about falls into a persons lap..lol. If I found it anyone can, so they cant be too “frightened”

    Nannorris, I am also very backward when it comes to Facebook and Twitter, but from what you are writing here I gather that Chandler or Arvizo are in fear for their lives, right?

    Dear me, they shouldn’t be! The fans of Michael Jackson are the first people interested in them living a long life to be able to see full Michael’s vindication! And being pressed into the corner by all our findings to finally admit that they slandered Michael all over!

    I really cannot imagine anyone speaking about those “fears for their lives” seriously. None of it happened to them before and none of it will happen to them in the future and I specifically ask Michael’s fans to take special care of it.

    Be their bodyguards while turning your back on these despicable people. They should live to see all the shame of their betrayal of Michael Jackson.

    Anything else is good for these people – whistle when they make their appearance, shun them when they come closer, turn your back on them when they approach you, ignore them and answer with silence to their questions, in short use all other legitimate varieties of contempt except threats to their lives!

    Let us take special care of these people instead, so that nothing happens to them. The longer they live the deeper they will “enjoy” the fruit of what they did to Michael.

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  19. January 30, 2013 2:34 am

    Bloodmoney thats called. What they are .living off.

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  20. nannorris permalink
    January 30, 2013 1:31 am

    I agree .JC and Francia , enjoy their loot but would prefer everyone forget how they got it.I think that was what Sullivan was saying , when he said, that since Evan died,, JC thought this would be over for him.
    I dont see that happening.
    Yeah, not too hard to get info on him , for someone supposedly in fear for his life .
    Give me a break.
    I am terrible at the computer , still havent mastered twitter so this info , just about falls into a persons lap..lol
    If I found it anyone can, so they cant be too “frightened”
    But isnt it interesting, that MJ death seemed to not have any effect on these people.
    They are relieved when Evan dies, not MJ ..
    .
    The Arvizo , I think do enjoy the attn , be it good or bad , being associated with MJ.
    What else have they got going for them that would be a claim to fame? nothing
    they are low life scum.
    And they get to make Ron Zonen jump through hoops to keep the charade up.
    He will be their reference , for them ,when they apply for jobs.
    I still think they might end up in the DA office in Santa Barbara , particularly if they are thinking of law…
    What is that saying about a making a silk purse out of a sows ear?
    They can get an education , but they will always have some larceny in them..
    You cant do what those people did to an innocent man , and completely change your ways…imo
    They put there pictures out.Surely they google themselves and know people talk about what they are doing , being on Palankers page etc.
    Interesting someone said Shumley was on her page as well, since he has come out and said he didnt believe the accusations in the book after the MJ tapes.
    They all know if it BS..I dont believe for a second Zonen or his wife believe these kids..
    .
    As far as JC being in the music business, I guess he wrote a song for his good friend Sonnett, that had marginal success, around Ca , she has it on her youtube channel.
    She also does commercials for Overstock .com, which makes me wonder if he has stock in that company..
    No offense to her , but I dont see anything outstanding about her , other then she is probably a nice person and a good friend to him.
    Jordans brother and sister are on her FB page so I would assume they are all still close.
    She also had written about an upcoming show in Miami., this week
    Jan. in Miami is a nice place to be.
    Maybe she will bring a friend…pft.
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  21. Fatti permalink
    January 29, 2013 10:39 pm

    Good point nannorris. I was actually surprised to find him so easily with the same name. The media always gives the impression that Gavin and Jordan are secluded, afraid of their lives, and have been forced to change their names because of “crazy fans”. The media really loves to portray us that way, thus giving us a bad name and less credibility also. But this is only proof that they are in fact living very comfortable, being all “out” there and thus not feeling threatened or bothered by anyone.

    I visited the emory mock trial fb page (where gavin attend). Gavin is tagged/commenting in several pics. In fact in one group picture on the profile pics he is the only one tagged! If he was so bothered by the attention it would bring he could’ve easily removed the tag of himself, but he didnt. Also many MJ fans are “following” him there. If he was so bothered, he would’ve removed them. Part of him simply loves the attention he gets of being associated with MJ.

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  22. TatumMarie permalink
    January 29, 2013 9:41 pm

    I thought I heard from TMZ that Jordan is in the music industry now and according to Harvey he is an outstanding guy… Yeah right.

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  23. nannorris permalink
    January 29, 2013 8:07 pm

    As much as Sullivans book annoys people, he does speak about JC and says he has a small group of friends who are very protective of him , and he doesnt care whether people think he lied or not,
    Given that we see ALL MJ enemies on FB, on youtube , living perfectly normal lives , yucking it up for the camera,\Dimond, Orth, Bashir, Murray all walked around unaccosted

    Attending prosecutors weddings like the Arvizos
    Francia and his cycling races pretending he made his money in the stock market…LOL

    All JC would have had to do to have the money and as much FREEDOM as the rest of these people , is simply walk into court and answer a few questions under oath.,
    He didnt , because as he had said when he made these accusations, the only thing he is afraid of is CROSS EXAMINATION.
    So , considering the money is off the table whether he testified or not, it is his…he still didnt come in , because he didnt want to risk cross examination..
    And since he never changed his identity( not hard to find his address) , as Evan would have people believe, it wasnt due to insane fans.
    So isnt the reason he didnt come in either..
    So he had a choice, imo , to come in and testify about the man who supposedly molested him and continued on to molest a cancer victim , be filthy rich and do whatever he wanted professionally or personally , but instead refused and although, incredible wealthy, and enjoys that wealth immensely,continues to hide in the shadows., because even after all this time, he would perfer that , then to have had to defend his statements.
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  24. nannorris permalink
    January 29, 2013 7:49 pm

    I have seen the condo, in Marina Del Ray ( and that is only one of his condos , he has another in Souix Falls , for his ski vacations) that JC lives in as well as pictures from Realtors selling properties in the building..I would estimate his condo is worth several million, as he wants NOTHING but the best unit….He is LIVING LARGE.
    Anyone with a conscience wouldnt be flaunting the wealth the way he is ..
    He doesnt care.
    This is one time where it certainly seems crime does pay.
    And there is no way he is giving up that lifestyle to clear MJ name..
    I know June is listed there also , and I had heard they had reconciled after Evan died..
    Once again , MJ death didnt seem to have the same impact on the Chandler family as Evans,,
    Michael wanst JC tormentor, it was Evan

    Nobody picked up his ashes, Jordan felt he could finally put this behind him after his fathers suicide., and June is back in the money
    This again, imo , tells me that this was between Evan and MJ ..
    But the kid is quite happy living off the collateral benefits it gave him , while ignoring what it did to MJ..
    What a family.

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  25. Fatti permalink
    January 29, 2013 5:07 pm

    It seems like Jordan has reconciled with his mother again after Michaels and his fathers death in 2009. After that year Jordan moved back to LA and he now lives in Marina del rey, where his mother and sister are also living: http://www.mylife.com/c-423507094

    Wonder what made him want to move back, perhaps he couldnt live with the guilt in isolation anymore. The truth will prevail someday.

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  26. January 24, 2013 8:59 am

    Maybe, Liza Minelli was talking about that same woman in one of her interview.

    Yes, and the same woman Flo Anthony mentioned. It seems around the early 90s there was an unknown woman who he wanted to marry.

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  27. January 24, 2013 2:46 am

    “Glenda: (laugh) Or when you called me and told me that you were gonna get married. I thought that I had given you all the wrong advice, I thought, “Oh my god!”

    Maybe, Liza Minelli was talking about that same woman in one of her interview.

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  28. January 24, 2013 12:05 am

    A “real relationship” to him seemed to be a marriage, like his brothers. I think he also really wanted a public relationship, as you can see in a poem he writes seemingly about a secret relationship he’s in in “Two Birds” in Dancing the Dream. That was around when he’d been proposed and rejected by this other lady – Glenda mentions this on one phonecall:

    Glenda: (laugh) Or when you called me and told me that you were gonna get married. I thought that I had given you all the wrong advice, I thought, “Oh my god!”

    Maybe Michael hadn’t told her how serious he felt about that other woman, and Glenda had dismissed it as a joke or something.

    But the Glenda calls stopped around fall 1992.

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  29. January 23, 2013 12:58 pm

    “Has anyone seen the first season of the show Revenge? Does David Clarke’s story not remind you of Michael during the Chandler saga?” -lopsided man

    I haven’t seen any of its seasons, but found the gist of the story. And yes, it did remind me of the Chandler saga. Everything happening there fell for exactly the same period, starting with June 1992, “going down” in 1993, etc. And the last phrase that the main character’s death was decided by people “far above” him is also intriguing.

    Well, after “the Truman show” movie which really turned out to be based on Michael Jackson’s life (according to the director of the film) I won’t be surprised that the people who know may be prompting us the correct answers in a symbolic form.

    Incidentally I wrote about the Truman show movie exactly a year ago: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2011/01/16/the-truman-show-for-michael-jackson-will-they-notice-that-everyone-is-acting-their-part/

    And here is David Clarke’s story in brief:

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  30. January 23, 2013 7:04 am

    That’s interesting, I didn’t know about the little Agajanian girl – Michael was right. If her mother would have been in the room with her it would be a different story. I doubt Michael would have wanted to leave her in there with all those boys either. I can’t believe they made a big deal out of this bed sharing and I was flabergasted when Oprah made a hoop over it.

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  31. Rodrigo permalink
    January 23, 2013 5:45 am

    Thanks for clarifying that, Helena.
    I think the reason why Michael befriended kids was because they the most relatable for him…But more than that, they were an access to a surrogate family unit. It allowed him to his own discretion and leisure, be a father and husband figure…which was the thing he wanted most in life. A normal life, even it were for 5 minutes.

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  32. Lopsided man permalink
    January 23, 2013 4:42 am

    Has anyone seen the first season of the show Revenge? Does David Clarke’s story not remind you of Michael during the Chandler saga?

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  33. January 23, 2013 1:52 am

    “During the Glenda tapes timeline, wasn’t Michael already with the Chandler’s? And wasn’t upset that he’s never been in a decent relationship…was that before he gave the love bracelet to June?”

    Rodrigo, Lacienegasmiles blog places the Glenda tapes as August 1992 latest, so the tapes were immediately before June Chandler. Michael met the Chandlers sometime in May 1992 and then went on a Dangerous tour.

    And the Love Bracelet was given to June Chandler a year later, in April 1993 when they were in Las Vegas.

    “Michael’s notions of relationships and sex were told to him by Katherine. I think he took that more to heart because he was disgusted by his brother’s and Joseph’s treatment of women, since he was a kid witnessing it all.”

    Exactly. First of all he was the only one who really listened to what Katherine and the religion taught him. And second, Michael felt compassion for the girls who hoped to have a serious relationship with his brothers, while Michael knew for sure that it would be a one night stand only.

    Remember the girl he asked not to go to his brother after the concert? Michael tried to stop her because he knew that she would be used as a toy and then discarded as garbage. It was very, very humiliating. Later on she cried out of humiliation and frustrated hopes and he was sorry for her no less than she was sorry for herself.

    Things like that must have taught him a lesson for the rest of his life. He treated women with care and respect, trying not to cause them any pain. Women were abused and regarded as animals by other males in his family and it could have turned him into an animal too, but this exposure to their unhappiness and tears had an unexpected effect on him – he showed women compassion and understanding. And behaved like a gentleman towards them.

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  34. Rodrigo permalink
    January 22, 2013 9:37 pm

    During the Glenda tapes timeline, wasn’t Michael already with the Chandler’s? And wasn’t upset that he’s never been in a decent relationship…was that before he gave the love bracelet to June?

    Michael’s notions of relationships and sex were told to him by Katherine. I think he took that more to heart because he was disgusted by his brother’s and Joseph’s treatment of women, since he was a kid witnessing it all.

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  35. January 22, 2013 4:13 pm

    “June started out on MJ side , when Evan made those accusations, and Mesereau made a point of bringing up what she had told detectives. What a great person he was , how it was Evan behind this and he wants money , how MJ was like a magnet”

    Nannorris, exactly. This is what June Chandler was initially saying (which now she “doesn’t recall”):

    15 Q. Okay. Do you remember telling Michael

    16 Jackson, “You’re like a magnet?”

    17 A. I don’t recall.

    18 Q. Do you remember telling Michael Jackson,

    19 “You’re like Peter Pan. Everybody wants to be

    20 around you and spend 24 hours”?

    21 A. Yes.

    Everyone assumed that she was talking only about children for whom Michael was indeed a magnet. But why didn’t we think that she could be talking about herself too?

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  36. January 22, 2013 3:50 pm

    “He wasn’t gay. He was definitely interested in women, and anyone who saw him dance couldn’t help but recognize his powerful sexuality. But he was inhibited.” (Frank Cascio)

    There is a lot to say about that big quote from Frank’s book but I selected only the one above as I simply have to say one thing.

    Many people wonder how Michael could be so sexual on stage and why he was so inhibited in private life (and not only with women). Michael was shy with everyone in face-to-face relationships. It was easier for him to deal with the ocean of faces in concert than with an individual adult with whom he often didn’t know what to talk about if it wasn’t his old friend.

    With women his inhibitions were the strongest, at least initially. That is why he often preferred to give women gifts instead, they were speaking for him and telling things he could not put into words. This is why a love bracelet given to June is so important – it is a tale-telling gift.

    He was also used to suppressing his feelings, and was taught by his mother and religion to restrain his sexuality. But when he flowed with the music on stage and gave himself in to the dance, those restraints fell off and he was just his natural self, the way he really was. He himself said that during a dance you should not think not to ruin the dance – and this is what he really did, with all the chains he had put on himself dropping.

    And it was then that he showed his true self betraying his high sexuality. In everyday life he was controlling himself admirably. Conrolling, restraining himself or being inhibited was what Michael was all about when he was off stage. And this means that even if (in theory of course) he had had some, you know, “inclinations”, he would have never given himself to them. NEVER. For this reason alone all those stories about him and “men”, or him and “boys” are totally impossible – they are totally out-of-character for Michael as he would have simply never allowed this to happen.

    Michael was all about control for himself. Only his dance showed what he was really like.

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  37. January 22, 2013 1:28 pm

    In connection with June not allowing Jordan to stay with Michael, teaching her son proper behavior and possibly preparing ground for her future privacy with Michael, I recalled what Frank Cascio wrote about Jordie and the time they spent together. There are some other interesting details and observations here:

    That night Michael brought Eddie, me, Jordy, and Jordy’s mother and sister up to the ranch. In his limo there were always movies playing, but we were all still too excited and too busy talking about the day we’d had to pay much attention to them. We had all bonded that day. It was clear to me that Jordy and his whole family loved Michael as much as my family did. They were like another family to him, and I felt like we had that in common. I didn’t feel jealous of the relationship. I’m not the jealous type. Truth be told, it was nice to have another kid around, particularly one who didn’t seem either especially impressed by or dubious about my relationship with Michael.

    Remembering my earlier visit, I expected the drive to feel like a long one, but soon enough we were at the ranch. This time we arrived at night, so I had a chance to see the way the trees and water features were beautifully lit. The music was playing. The train, most likely empty, was chugging along its cheerful way. And dinner was waiting for us.

    Since we weren’t there with our parents, my brother and I asked Michael if we could stay with him in his room. That’s what we would have done at a regular sleepover with kids our own age, and we thought of Michael as one of us. Of course we knew he was a grown-up, but he felt like a best friend. A kid, but a kid with amazing power and resources. He had an amusement park in his backyard, for heaven’s sake. We wanted to hang out with him, and Michael couldn’t say no, not to us or to anyone else he cared for. Michael, Eddie, and I stayed up late that night talking. We lay on the floor in front of the fireplace, flipping through magazines while Michael filled us in on some entertainment-world gossip, telling us how he’d gone to Eddie Murphy’s house for dinner and how Madonna tried to seduce him. Mindful of our ages, he delicately tried to explain Madonna’s invitation to accompany her to her hotel room without resorting to words like “seduce.”

    “She … she asked me to join her in her bedroom.” He put his hands over his face. “I was so shy—I didn’t know what to do,” he confessed.

    “You should have gone for it. I would have done anything for one night with Madonna,” I told him. I was young, but already girlcrazy. Michael was the opposite, though. He wasn’t used to being put into these situations where he was supposed to feel or be romantic. He wasn’t gay. He was definitely interested in women, and anyone who saw him dance couldn’t help but recognize his powerful sexuality. But he was inhibited.

    This inhibition was, in part, a result of the road life Michael had had to live when he was young. That night, Michael told us about how, starting when he was five, he’d been on tour with the Jacksons. Sometimes the act before the Jackson 5 was a burlesque show. Michael, watching from the side of the stage, saw that the female performers were often badly treated by the men. After the show, he and Randy [Marlon?] would hide under a bed while their older brothers brought girls back to the room. When Michael would start giggling, Jermaine would drag him and Randy out from under the bed and throw them out of the room. But not before Michael had seen and heard more than a kid his age probably should. Michael was always telling stories about his brothers. He told us some of these stories as if they were funny, but it’s now clear to me that they weren’t funny at all. Michael had been exposed to sex at too young an age, and the experience had deeply scarred him. As a result, when it came to women, it was as if he was frozen in time. Later on, after his brothers were married, the family members stopped being as close as they once were, and gradually this pulled the Jackson 5 apart. On top of his fears of intimacy, Michael didn’t want to fall into the trap of allowing something to distract him from his music.

    Starting from a very young age, work was Michael’s first priority. He was very professional. He was on point all the time. I think it’s because when he was working, he felt most comfortable, most in control. Even when his older brothers would be playing basketball or some other sport, he would just sit around and watch and sing melodies. He never joined in (and I can only assume he would have been welcome, even if it would have meant a two-onthree game). One reason was that his father never really wanted him to participate. He was more protective of Michael than he was of the other siblings. Of course, this might have been because Michael was, as I saw many times, shockingly bad at sports. I never could understand that. Here was the guy with the most extraordinary sense of rhythm in the world … and he couldn’t even dribble a basketball properly. He said he was even worse at baseball. But the point is, Michael didn’t want anything—not sports, and not women —to affect his work. As he got older, Michael would stay home to rehearse and choreograph dance routines. When his brothers came back, Michael would teach them the routines. He was the youngest of the Jackson 5, but also the most serious.

    Later that night our conversation turned to Jordy, who was staying with his mother and sister in the guest bungalows. I said, “Oh, he’s really really nice. Next time you come to New York, you should bring him to our house.”

    “Yeah, we should bring him to New York—he’s never been there,” Michael replied.

    “Why isn’t Jordy staying with us?” I asked.

    “I don’t know—Jordy never stays in my room,” Michael answered. “I like it to be just us so we can catch up.”

    So that night the three of us talked in front of the fire until around two in the morning, at which point we decided to raid the refrigerator. We went to the kitchen and warmed up vanilla pudding (one of Michael’s favorite snacks) in the microwave, gathered chips, orange Creamsicles, vanilla wafers, and juice boxes, brought them back to the room, and stayed up until four in the morning talking and listening to Michael’s fascinating stories.

    As he would do again in future visits, Michael offered the bed to me and Eddie and said he’d sleep on the floor, but we ended up all sleeping on the floor. I loved to fall asleep near the dying crackle of the fire. From that visit until I was old enough to want privacy, whenever I went to Neverland I made my bed right next to the fireplace. Let me be absolutely clear: odd as it may seem for an adult to have “sleepovers” with a couple of kids, there was nothing sexual about them—nothing that was apparent to me then, as a child, and nothing that I can see now, as a grown man scrutinizing the past. They were harmless. Michael was truly just a kid at heart. The next day we slept until midday. Michael’s chef, Buckey, was famous for his burgers. We had Buckey burgers and fries for lunch. Then Michael said, “You have two thousand seven hundred acres. Be free. Do what you want.” He urged us to explore on our own, but what we wanted most of all was to be around him and to have him show us what to do. So we spent the day playing in the arcade and running around Neverland together. Michael was game for anything.

    (from Frank Cascio “My friend Michael”)

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  38. January 22, 2013 1:09 pm

    “Growing up in a home full of kids myself, the girls were usually with the girls and the boys were usually with the boys. Sometimes I would have friends come over and if they were like family we would all pile up in the bed and watch movies with my parents. The only thing that would make the case scenario inappropriate in Michael’s case is if Jordan was a teenage girl.”

    Tatum, thank you for the important addition. If you hadn’t said it many of us wouldn’t have known. So this is why Michael took special care not to leave little girls in his room. When little Amy Agajanian was staying in Neverland with her brothers she felt she was Michael’s best friend as he spent most of the time with her and not the boys, but when it was time to go to bed she was hurt by his explanations that it was inappropriate for little girls to stay unchaperoned.

    Here are Amy’s recollections retold by someone she spoke to:

    “Her older brothers were allowed to sleep over at the house, but even though she was MJ’s closest pal and spent far more time with him than the boys, she was relegated to a guesthouse with her mother. She was pissed! Michael explained to her it wasn’t proper for little girls to be in his house overnight unchaperoned. Michael’s feelings about this explain completely why it was always boys overnight. But you hear nothing about his little girl pals.” https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2011/08/29/jc-agajanians-stunning-interview-about-michael-jackson-he-will-never-be-replaced/

    “It’s also possible that June scolded Jordan because she felt he was bombarding Michael by sleeping in his bed.”

    Very possible too. Like it being necessary for him to be well-behaved and not too obtrusive. June could simply want to have Michael for herself only. And teaching Jordan not to come into Michael’s room whenever he wanted. She could be just preparing ground for her privacy with Michael. Lots of variants possible.

    When I was ten my mother got married again. Up till then the door to her room had always been open for me. Suddenly it closed, and I could not understand why. Mother gave me some ridiculous explanation and though I didn’t understand and felt hurt I abided. To me it was like being shut off for no reason at all.

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  39. January 22, 2013 12:37 pm

    “Did she sense that he was interested in someone else and give up, switching sides? Somehow it does not seem likely that Michael would have married her”

    Kaarin, that was a great question about June sensing it and a true observation about Michael not likely to marry her. What we see with June Chandler is Michael only testing himself for the role of a father and future head of a family.

    He was giving her a try, otherwise he wouldn’t have given her that bracelet and wouldn’t have spent time in her home, but he was also very wary of women, never knowing why they were with him – for his fame, money or him personally – so he was in much doubt. And with Lisa Marie appearing on his horizon the matter was settled once and for all.

    And at some point he must have also seen through June and her cold and calculating nature and tried to distance himself from her. Though initially Michael could be charmed – Evan said that June could be very charming if she wanted to. I am sure that she tried her best charms on Michael.

    As to June sensing that Michael had someone else, it is exceptionally interesting that Evan mentioned Lisa to David Schwartz. It means that even they knew that June had a competitor. Though Evan says that both husbands were initially furious with the gossip about Michael and June (the fury story may be fictional), I think that later they regarded June as a Troyan horse for themselves. If she had married Michael both former husbands would have rolled in money, fame and public attention, and their future would have been well taken of.

    To me it seems more likely that both former husbands were a fan group supporting June to win. It’s when those plans came to nothing was when they were really frustrated.

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  40. Rodrigo permalink
    January 22, 2013 11:14 am

    Michael bought jewelery, ear rings,etc, for his special women…but a love bracelet for June?

    Yup, definitely something more going on there.

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  41. January 22, 2013 10:43 am

    The background about the love bracelet was interesting, Michael himself told Bashir that if he likes a girl he would buy her jewelry. For T-Mez to hint a little towards a romantic relationship while cross-examining June (not vital in the case though) shows that it had to have been corroborated by Michael himself since Mesereau knew the evidence, court documents and Michael’s version of the events.

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  42. January 22, 2013 10:36 am

    I like this article. I wanted to add to the bed sharing portion that it is not just Michael’s upbringing, but also common for the general black community to share beds. Growing up in a home full of kids myself, the girls were usually with the girls and the boys were usually with the boys. Sometimes I would have friends come over and if they were like family we would all pile up in the bed and watch movies with my parents. Many black parents also have their adopted children from the neighborhood. The only thing that would make the case scenario inappropriate in Michael’s case is if Jordan was a teenage girl. It’s also possible that June scolded Jordan because she felt he was bombarding Michael by sleeping in his bed. I remember Tom Messearu exposing the conversation being about June not trusting men to get too close to her kids for emotional reasons.

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  43. January 22, 2013 10:15 am

    As Lisa said, with only a green signal, Michael began to send jewelry, flowers, perfumes etc

    That was only because Lisa was married, but as soon as she told him there was trouble in the marriage – she said he started courting her.

    June chandler was doing the same thing to MJ.

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  44. lynande51 permalink
    January 22, 2013 8:34 am

    Yes I saw Kleins FB page myself too. He did elude that he was his father but he did not use his ID from the hospital but his baby picture alongside a baby picture of Prince. His friends were also cheering him on just as lacienegasmiles said.

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  45. alinemj permalink
    January 22, 2013 6:41 am

    About this discovery about love bracelet, I found surprising.
    As Lisa said, with only a green signal, Michael began to send jewelry, flowers, perfumes etc …
    I think that was the green light that June, gave Michael showing that trusted him.
    Looking at these photos June was really very beautiful and they all seemed very happy and comfortable.
    Reading the book Randy has a passage in which June and Michael fought going to neverland, they would celebrate the birthday of Lily, I do not remember what was the reason for the fight.

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  46. nannorris permalink
    January 22, 2013 4:47 am

    I am blocked form Kliens fb page but heard he put that up there too.
    That is a pretty old identification card for Kliens enemies to have a hold of.
    My first thought , when I saw that , on TMZ, is that he probably infers to people, as he had in the past regarding Michaels son..

    If he had someone else in his house,, surely they could have put it on there without his knowledge, if he left his computer up.
    Frankly , I think he self medicates , so who knows if he put it up while medicated and didnt realize how detrimental something like that could be.. or maybe a guest that did that..
    It is a rotten thing to do , whoever it was.
    .
    June started out on MJ side , when Evan made those accusations, and Mesereau made a point of bringing up what she had told detectives.
    What a great person he was , how it was Evan behind this and he wants money , how MJ was like a magnet
    Then when MJ distanced himself , she realized she was left out in the cold and went to Evans side, because she was afraid she would lose her son to him , I suppose…

    It is interesting that one of the other mothers thought June acted like she was the mistress of Neverland.
    Perhaps she thought, through MJ , she had a permanent place there.
    I would love to ask Mr Mesereau , if MJ ever told him he had a romantic relationship with her.
    The other thing I wondered about , is in Franks book, he says MJ said in a wistful way regarding Jordan…” I did so much for his family”
    I wonder what he was referring to , taking them on trips?, or did he do more for this family, then he did for others?

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  47. January 22, 2013 3:36 am

    I saw the messages posted on Facebook by Klein himself, his friends were cheering him on. It was definitely his account.

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  48. January 22, 2013 3:27 am

    I wrote about the artificial insemination stuff only as general info. It has nothing to do with my beliefs re Michael and his children.
    It can be a blessing to married couples if one spouse is sterile for some reason. Males can become sterile if they contract measles as adults. I will not go into reasons for female infertility, there are some though.

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  49. January 22, 2013 2:42 am

    Re June C´s looks,has someone wise not said that discussions about tastes are futile..
    Whatever I wonder what she did with that bracelet, did she have it sawed off or does she still carry it.Did she not trust Michael enough to speak for him,would the allegations not have fallen by the wayside?Did she sense that he was interested in someone else and give up,switching sides? Somehow it does not seem likely that Michael would have married her,and what about a prenuptial if that had been the case? They had one with LMP though she was already rich,very much so.

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  50. Jan permalink
    January 22, 2013 2:03 am

    I am glad arnie is not up to his old tricks. Those children are Michaels and I have never believed this artificial insemination stuff.

    Who is behind this though?

    I don’t think a lot of june chandler to be honest. Not a woman to be admired at all.

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  51. January 22, 2013 12:53 am

    “He gave her this after she expressed to him that she couldnt trust the men in her life , as I recall.”

    I will read the testimony once again before I write the second part. Initially I wanted to write about June Chandler being a professional actress, as some Internet sources claim she is (providing the filmography, etc.), but I’ve watched a couple of films and found that it is a different June Chandler. I was very much tempted to write about her acting skills but decided to check up the information first, and indeed found that the Internet sources referring to June Wong/Chandler as an actress were inaccurate: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0151411/bio

    So I will look into some parts of the testimony instead. The fact that the gift came after the conversation about June’s trust/mistrust in men could have some bearing upon the purchase of the bracelet. But on the other hand any other piece of jewelry would have fulfilled the role in this situation equally well.

    But over here it is a Love Bracelet. It is a very special gift, which carries a meaning of its own. It is a SYMBOL of ultimate commitment of a man to a woman and is therefore one of the most cherished and desirable pieces for her. It carries the message of love and serious intentions which even the words cannot convey. At least this is the way Cartier has been promoting this item and what Michael probably wanted to say.

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  52. January 22, 2013 12:36 am

    “June thought that she was going to get the #1 spot in Michael’s love life and when Evan came forward with the allegations, Michael backed off from all of them so June realized it wasn’t going to happen and she sided with Evan so she could get some easy cash to move forward and leave good old Dave.” – Jules

    Yes, I also think that June Chandler was driven into a corner by Evan’s allegations – besides losing Michael forever she also faced the danger of losing the custody of her son. And the prospect of good money was another alluring factor that made her turn her back on Michael completely. This was a difficult decision and no one can guarantee that we would have behaved better in that situation. However in the long run it was a huge betrayal of Michael and his most sincere and genuine feelings for her as a woman.

    It seems that women were constantly betraying him – Diana Ross, June Chandler, Lisa Marie. No wonder he later started looking at women as “fish”. Let us be critical of ourselves – as a human species women showed themselves at their worst with Michael. He deserved something much better.

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  53. January 22, 2013 12:21 am

    “What TMZ posted that was supposedly submitted by Klein shows a twitter message and if you look at the picture that is on the twitter message supposedly from Klein, it is not the one he uses on his twitter page. I truly think it was done by someone else and as TMZ always does, they posted it knowing it would go viral and get a huge reaction.”

    Jules, as a technically backward person I didn’t know of those twitter details, but it’s great you’ve noticed them. But look here. Once we notice that it is a fake we should never stop at just stating that it is. This discovery should always be accompanied by the next question – why are they doing it? Okay, for profit, etc. But then comes the next question – why are they doing it now?

    You know, I don’t believe in “accidents” like this. Every move has a reason and therefore has an explanation. By the way if the public followed the various media outlets closely they would be wary to make provocations like that, because they would backfire against them in the first place, showing what agenda they have.

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  54. January 22, 2013 12:09 am

    “This is what Klein posted regarding the photo: “The picture of Prince Jackson and myself I did not post. I will not answer anything about them. They are Michael’s children. I now know one of the embezzlers posted those photos. Please let it go.” – This is very well possible.”

    Susanne, thank you for providing Klein’s answer here (and seeing my point). If he posted this reply, of course he wasn’t the one who made the first message. A person should be one’s own worst enemy to first do one thing and then immediately do the opposite – it’s the best way to present oneself as a half-wit. Klein is being compromised now in the most vicious manner possible in order to invalidate anything he will say about Conrad Murray and AEG in respect of Michael. This onslaught has far-reaching goals and is meant to destroy him even before he tries to say anything about AEG.

    The ultimate goal is clear. If he goes through a succession of similar provocations, he will be labelled an imbecile so that no one pays attention to what he says about AEG.

    But I want to come back to this post. The story behind the Cartier love bracelet is really breath-taking. I didn’t know this. It’s very telling and gives a whole new perspective on the relationship between Michael and June Chandler. Nobody would make this a gift to someone without a reason. And I don’t think Michael didn’t know the story behind the bracelet, when so many of his celebrity friends had it (like Elizabeth Taylor, who was an expert in jewels).

    It is important that Michael was selecting the bracelet himself (together with Jordan by the way). I mean that he didn’t send any of his aides to just buy something for June – no, it was his own conscious choice. And he was very inquisitive too, always trying to learn stories behind his purchases. He was surely told the story behind the bracelet by those who attended to him at the Cartier’s and selected it only after that. Actually, it is impossible to imagine that he would not have asked a question “what’s this?” when he saw a key accompanying the bracelet. Anyone would ask this question.

    So his choice was a serious one and for us it is the most valuable thing about it. It was meant to convey a certain meaning to June Chandler.

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  55. Jules permalink
    January 21, 2013 11:25 pm

    I know there is a lot of speculation about the relationship between June and Michael. Tom Mesereau, in my opinion, tried to allude to that fact during the trial, but didn’t get where he wanted to unfortunately. However, also in my opinion, I think that June thought that she was going to get the #1 spot in Michael’s love life and when Evan came forward with the allegations, Michael backed off from all of them so June realized it wasn’t going to happen and she sided with Evan so she could get some easy cash to move forward and leave good old Dave.

    But on another note, during the phone conversation between Dave and Evan (to me the most damning and telling of what Evan’s true intentions were), Evan brings up Michael’s relationship with Lisa. So, who will ever know?

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  56. nannorris permalink
    January 21, 2013 11:14 pm

    That is very interesting about the bracelet..He gave her this after she expressed to him that she couldnt trust the men in her life , as I recall.Sneddon wanted to turn it into her not trusting MJ with Jordan , but it was about her letting a new man into her life and her childrens life, so he goes and buys a symbol of love..very interesting..point

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  57. Susannerb permalink*
    January 21, 2013 10:29 pm

    I also think you are right, Helena. This is what Klein posted regarding the photo:
    “The picture of Prince Jackson and myself I did not post. I will not answer anything about them. They are Michael’s children. I now know one of the embezzlers posted those photos. Please let it go.” – This is very well possible.

    But I want to come back to this post. The story behind the Cartier love bracelet is really breath-taking. I didn’t know this. It’s very telling and gives a whole new perspective on the relationship between Michael and June Chandler. Nobody would make this a gift to someone without a reason. And I don’t think Michael didn’t know the story behind the bracelet, when so many of his celebrity friends had it (like Elizabeth Taylor, who was an expert in jewels).

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  58. Jules permalink
    January 21, 2013 9:12 pm

    Helena, I think you are right. What TMZ posted that was supposedly submitted by Klein shows a twitter message and if you look at the picture that is on the twitter message supposedly from Klein, it is not the one he uses on his twitter page. I truly think it was done by someone else and as TMZ always does, they posted it knowing it would go viral and get a huge reaction. They don’t have to check on the authenticity of absolutely anything and only retract when forced to (i.e., when Janet threatened to sue them over claiming she slapped Paris, etc.). Paris even stated that did not happen on her own twitter page and yet it still gets the rounds as if it happened.

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  59. January 21, 2013 7:57 pm

    “off topic but you need to see this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2264203/Michael-Jacksons-doctor-Arnold-Klein-hints-Prince-Michaels-father-cryptic-Facebook-post.html

    Jan, I don’t even want to go into this for a couple of reasons.

    1) if Michael had been using some sperm bank he wouldn’t have engaged himself in all that battle with Lisa Marie Presley over his own child. He wanted HIS child and this is why all that trouble with LMP and Debbie took place. If Debbie had had Klein’s child (which is ridiculous) Michael needn’t have divorced Lisa Marie Presley at all. He could have simply adopted that child if he was so terribly keen on artificial insemination. But he wasn’t, so the whole theory is totally ridiculous.

    2) I have a gutter feeling that Klein has nothing to do with these cryptic messages posted on his facebook. Despite what everyone thinks about Klein here I don’t easily believe the things said about him by the press. I am not Klein’s fan, but things said about him are partially fabricated.

    I simply don’t want to go into all this at the moment.

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