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Fact Checking “Michael Jackson’s Secret World” by Martin Bashir

April 28, 2011

In February 2005, Martin Bashir aired his second hit-piece on Michael Jackson, titled “Michael Jackson’s Secret World”.  If there were any thoughts that Bashir was remorseful for what he did to MJ with his first hit-piece, then this documentary will totally destroy those notions, as this solidifies Bashir’s utter contempt for MJ. And the timing of this piece of garbage is no coincidence either; it aired right before jury selection, so it was obviously designed to taint the jury pool.

This documentary was essentially swept under the rug by ABC News, as it is not for sale on their website, despite the fact that hundreds of past episodes of 20/20 and Primetime Live are for sale on their website.

Without further ado, here is the transcript and analysis of Bashir’s second takedown of MJ.  Please note that for the sake of clarity, I used the word “narrating”  to distinguish between  Bashir’s narration, and the taped interviews that  were taken from the British Documentary that Bashir piggybacked on. Those clips are in block quotes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Transcript of Michael Jackson’s Secret World

Disclaimer:  In addition to our own reporting, this program contains excerpts from a documentary made by a British production company, which aired in the U.K. three weeks ago. Some of the individuals who appeared in that documentary received compensation for their participation. No payment was made for any of the interviews conducted by Martin Bashir or ABC News.

Introduction: Tonight, it started with his own words.  Words that made the world take notice, really take notice.  “Why can’t you share your bed?” Was it an innocent, loving friendship? Or something much darker?  As the trial of the century gears up, Martin Bashir returns to the secret world of Michael Jackson, exploring his pattern of unusual friendships with much younger boys that began more than 20 years ago.  You’ll hear from his detractors, and his friends.  You’ll hear from boys who’ll say that nothing improper ever happened between them, and boys now grown up who say something did.  Plus, the child starts Jackson befriended, and the boy behind a reported $25 million dollar payoff. Now, a new look at Neverland, with the man whose documentary ignited a firestorm, a 2-hour special that picks up where “Living With Michael Jackson” left off 2 years ago, as Martin Bashir takes a closer look at Michael Jackson’s Secret World.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Over 2 years ago, I started making a documentary about Michael Jackson.  I saw some extraordinary things. We went shopping.  We raced go-carts.  I met his children, and his baby. And then, I went back to Neverland.  What happened over the next few hours would forever change the lives of everyone who was there.  I could never have foreseen what consequences that encounter would have.  The young boy I interviewed that day would later allege that Michael Jackson abused him.  I had to ask myself “Could his allegations of what happened after that day be true?”  So I went back to the beginning.  I was about to enter the secret world of Michael Jackson.  Once again, this would be a journey into the surprising, the unusual, and the bizarre.  It’s a world where Michael Jackson has shared his wealth, his home, and sometimes even his bedroom, with much younger boys.  Were these relationships innocent, as Jackson and many of the boys say, or were some of them criminal, as at least 2 boys have alleged.  It began when he was little more than a boy himself.

LaToya Jackson (clip from British documentary):  I really didn’t have, and I know that everyone knows this, but he really didn’t have much of a childhood.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Michael says his childhood was scarred by the pressures of early stardom, and the close intentions of violent father, Joe.

LaToya Jackson (clip from British documentary):  He was a disciplinarian, and when I say disciplinarian what I mean is if he felt you did something wrong, then of course he would spank you.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  When I interviewed Michael Jackson, he told me that his father had made his life desperately unhappy.

Clip from “Living With Michael Jackson”:

Martin Bashir:  How often would he beat you?

Michael Jackson:  Too much.

Martin Bashir:  Would he only use a belt?

Michael Jackson:  (Crying.) Why do you do this to me? No, more than a belt.  When he would catch me, oh my God, it was bad.

LaToya Jackson (clip from documentary):  He was strict.  It was like “Why do we always have to do this? Why can’t we do that?” But that’s part of growing up.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  According to Jackson, he didn’t want to grow up.  He craved the childhood he never had.  Michael Jackson was reluctant to join the adult world.  When I asked Jackson about dating Tatum O’Neil, he told me that at the time, the idea of sex had terrified him.

Clip from “Living With Michael Jackson”

Michael Jackson:  She told me to go and lie on the bed, and I did, and she slowly walked over, and she touched the button on my shirt to open it, and I put my hands like this (covers his face with both hands), and I wouldn’t let them down, and she just walked away.  She knew I was too shy for it.  That’s what happened.

Martin Bashir:  Did you not feel tempted at all?

Michael Jackson: No.

Martin Bashir:  You just felt frightened?

Michael Jackson: I was frightened.  I was afraid.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  In Tatum O’Neal’s recent book, she denies trying to seduce Jackson.  Whatever his experience with girls, he would soon begin friendships with boys much younger than himself.  Jackson’s sister says that all of these relationships were entirely innocent.

LaToya Jackson (clip from British documentary):  He’s always had lots of friends, all ages.  And then he had younger kids that were friends, but you have to remember that Michael was so loved by everyone in the world, which he still is, that everybody wanted to be around him.

J. Randy Taraborrelli (clip from British documentary):  He feels very strongly that he missed out on his childhood, and one of the ways he feels that he can recapture his youth is by associating with young kids.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Terry George claims he was one of those boys.

Terry George (clip from British documentary):  When I was the age of 13, I was a little bit cheeky, and I think I was a little bit naïve, looking back.

Martin Bashir (narrating): Terry George says he was 13, and a keen collector of celebrity interviews, when he met Michael in Leeds, in the north of England.  For the rest of the Jacksons, it was just another stop on their 1979 European tour.  But for Michael, says Terry George, it was a chance to make a new friend.

Maureen Orth (clip from British documentary):  Michael would tour all over the world, and there were little boys everywhere that would come to the hotels.

Terry George (clip from British documentary):  I didn’t really mingle with other people.  I didn’t have a lot of friends then.

Martin Bashir (narrating): Determined to interview his idol, Terry says he found out where the Jacksons were staying.  Then, armed with Michael’s hotel room number and a tape recorder, he simply knocked on his door.

Terry George (clip from British documentary):  Michael said “Who is it?”, and I said “Hi, my name’s Terry George, I’ve come to do an interview. He opened the door, and he looked a bit shocked to see me.  He was looking at this level, and I was down here somewhere.

Martin Bashir (narrating): Terry George says that at the end of the interview, he and Michael Jackson swapped phone numbers.

Terry George (clip from British documentary):  He giving me his number, and asking for mine didn’t really feel strange at all, it was great, it was a thrill. I was happy to be in touch with a celebrity.

Martin Bashir (narrating): After the tour left Britain, Terry George says that Michael Jackson started calling 2 or 3 times a week, and they had friendly conversations about their lives.

Terry George (clip from British documentary):  His calls came quite late at night, normally from 11 in the evening to right through to 5 o’clock in the morning on some occasions.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  And then he says one night, Michael made a call that Terry has never forgotten.

Terry George (clip from British documentary):  “I Had Phone Sex With Jacko!” is what the press wrote.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  I met with Terry George to hear his account of what really happened that night.

Terry George (speaking to Bashir directly):  He spoke about masturbation, about him masturbating, and did I masturbate. I never saw it coming. It wasn’t something I expected.  It just came out the blue, really.  He said “Would you believe that I’m doing it now?”  And he let me hear it on the telephone, and I could hear it.

Martin Bashir:  And what did you think he meant by that?

Terry George: I knew what he meant by that, because he was talking about masturbation.  I did feel uncomfortable, I can remember feeling uncomfortable.  I felt awkward.

Martin Bashir:  What are your thoughts when you put the phone down?

Terry George: I thought that I didn’t react the way he wanted me to react, and I thought that perhaps he would never call me again, or that I would never hear from him again.  In hindsight, looking back at it now, I know that

the conversation probably should never have happened, it probably wasn’t natural.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Terry George says there were no more sexual conversations. In time, the two lost touch.  Terry George’s friendship with Michael Jackson was over.   A source close to the Jackson camp says that “Terry George’s story isn’t true.   In the past, he has sold his story to the press.  All of this is an old, unsubstantiated accusation.”  Some people who have investigated Michael Jackson say that he ultimately rejects many of his young friends.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary):  Michael Jackson changes his phone numbers, he’s not available on the telephone anymore.

Maureen Orth (clip from British documentary):  As soon as they appear to be a little bit more into puberty, and they have gotten their first facial hair…………

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary): ………he just moves on to the next little “special friend”.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  But soon, Michael would want to take one of his friends out, before America’s press, on a double date with one of the world’s most beautiful women.  For the superstar who calls himself “Peter Pan”, the transition from child sensation to adult pop idol wasn’t easy.

Latoya Jackson (clip from British documentary):  He went through this phase in his life when he became extremely shy, and totally changed.  It totally changed his demeanor.  He didn’t want to see people, he just became a totally different person.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Michael Jackson told me about this difficult period in his life.

(Clip from “Living With Michael Jackson”)

Michael Jackson:  One cousin would always want to pop my pimples.  I would just go to the bedroom and cry, you know?

Martin Bashir:  Is it true that your father used to say you had a fat nose?

Michael Jackson:  Yeah.

Martin Bashir:  What did he say?  What did he actually say?

Michael Jackson:  “God your nose is big! You didn’t get it from me!”

Martin Bashir:  What does that do to someone who’s going through adolescence?

Michael Jackson:  You want to die. You want to die.  And on top of it you have to go on stage in a spotlight, in front of hundreds of thousands of people. It’s hard!  I would have been happier wearing a mask!

Martin Bashir (narrating):  At 21, Jackson was about to become a fully-fledged superstar.  But a friendship with a boy was about to startle the world. This video for “Don’t Stop Till You Get Enough” helped launch Michael’s solo career.  He looks like a man who’s breaking free.

J. Randy Tarroberrelli (clip from British documentary): When you watch Michael, you’d like to think that he was enjoying it to.  In fact, it was one of the darkest times in Michael Jackson’s life.

Martin Bashir (narrating): In the midst of Jackson’s private pain, Jackson was in public demand, and music’s brightest new star was about to go on a date with Brooke Shields,  America’s most desirable young woman. But in his private life, Michael’s new best friend was the tiny child star Emmanuelle Lewis.

Emmanuelle Lewis (clip from British documentary): Regardless of how old we are in real life, we’re just not going to get older. That was just a friend of mine.  We were Peter Pan.

Martin Bashir (narrating): The 3-foot start was invited down to the set of Jackson’s new video “Thriller”, and met Michael while he was having his makeup done.

Emmanuelle Lewis (clip from British documentary): He was like “Are you afraid of me?”  Of course not! You’re Michael Jackson!

Martin Bashir (narrating): But according to Jackson’s biographer, some members of the Jackson family were becoming concerned with how the world would view this friendship.

J. Randy Taraborrelli (clip from British documentary):  The two of them are rolling around on the grass, and playing games with each other.

LaToya Jackson (clip from British documentary):  They would do all of the “Thriller” moves together, and it was so cute, so adorable.  And no, there were no questions about it because it was a wonderful friendship.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  By 1984, Michael’s second album “Thriller” was well on its way to being the best seller of all time. He was nominated for 12 Grammy Awards, and was all set to be crowned the King of Pop.  But choosing a date for the ceremony, Jackson faced a dilemma:  Whom to take?

LaToya Jackson (clip from British documentary):  I recall Brooke being over to the house and asking Michael if she could go with him to the awards.

J. Randy Taraborrelli (clip from British documentary):  Michael was a little bit lukewarm on that, but he liked her, but he liked Emmanuelle better.

LaToya Jackson (clip from British documentary):  He didn’t want to say “No”. So he had 2 dates!

Martin Bashir (narrating):  But here, in a scene from Fox Broadcasting’s “Michael Jackson’s Home Movies”, just before he swept the ball at the Grammy’s, he’s seen arriving at the ceremony with Brooke on one arm, and Emmanuelle on the other.

Emmanuelle Lewis (clip from British documentary): I didn’t know the magnitude of how great this moment was going to be in history, you know?  You just didn’t know.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  The extraordinary spectacle was seen around the world.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary):  You can imagine the surprise, and shock, that everybody felt that Michael Jackson and Brooke Shields were a couple, with Emmanuelle Lewis?!!

J. Randy Taraborrelli (clip from British documentary):  He basically had Brooke Shields there as his date, but he had Emmanuelle sort of in his arms.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  One look at this threesome, and some people wondered about Jackson’s relationships.   People wanted to know why Michael Jackson was hanging around with a boy less than half his age, but to Emmanuelle Lewis, this was just an innocent friendship.

Emmanuelle Lewis (clip from British documentary): All we did was watch comedy and cartoons.  Could anything negative happen between the two of us?  The answer to that question is hell no!!

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary):  When Emmanuelle Lewis started showing up in public with Michael Jackson, that was as if the water had burst over the damn.  After that, the pattern began that we always saw Michael with a young male boy at his side.  Almost always.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Life was about to get stranger in Michael Jackson’s secret world. Michael Jackson was now a megastar, attracting plaudits from presidents. His relationships with boys was becoming just one more eccentricity from a man who was becoming famous for being odd.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary):  There’s always been so many eccentric things going on around Michael Jackson that what was lost in the background were these little boys, who were always there.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  What people didn’t know is that Jackson had been splashing cash on extravagant gifts for his new young friend, and his family. One of the first boys to benefit from Jackson’s new found wealth was the son of a California garbage man, 10-year old Jimmy Safechuck.  The young actor was picked by Jackson to star in this glossy commercial.  Designed specifically to appeal to kids, in which Michael’s image became indelibly linked to children, and Jimmy appeared as his clone.

J. Randy Taraborrelli (clip from British documentary):  Now the interesting thing about Jimmy Safechuck is that he was actually the first “mini-Michael”.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Michael was so enchanted by his new “mini-Michael”, he took Jimmy on the road to tour with his next album “Bad”.  The boy and Jackson even dressed in identical outfits.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary):  I don’t know whose idea it was to start dressing these boys like Michael.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Looking like Michael became part of the pattern for Jackson’s young friends. \

J. Randy Taraborrelli (clip from British documentary):  You know, the glove, the spin……….

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary):  ………the little coats, the fedora hats……….

J. Randy Taraborrelli (clip from British documentary):  ………..the pants that were too short, and the sequin socks………

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary):  ……..it starts to make you wonder “Who’s making them dress that way?  Do they want to dress that way, or does Michael insist that they dress that way?

Martin Bashir (narrating):  One of the dancers who toured with Jackson says that the family didn’t approve when Jackson reportedly took Jimmy and his family on a shopping spree.

Tatiana Thumbtzen (clip from British documentary):  The whole family, even Joseph, they didn’t like it.  They didn’t think it was right.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary):The family was aghast.  You’d by them a little outfit to wear.  You’d take them on a trip, that’s fine.  But you buy them a house? You buy them 2 luxury automobiles?

LaToya Jackson (clip from British documentary):  When you put enough out there, it looks a certain way.  However, at the same time, when you are innocent, you don’t think anything of it.  It’s just a gift. It’s like “Enjoy it, have fun”.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary): I saw the Safechuck’s lifestyle change.  I read their credit report. I saw what they did for a living before Michael Jackson came into their life.  And then I saw the way they were living afterward, and it wasn’t just this child appearing in one video with Michael Jackson that gave him all that money.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Dimond says there might have been another explanation, such as a business loan.  Jimmy Safechuck has not alleged any wrongdoing by Jackson.  Supporters of Jackson say that his extravagance to some of these boys just reflects his widespread generosity.

J. Randy Taraborrelli (clip from British documentary):  I know Michael Jackson, and I know how he is with people, and how he is with families of people who come into his life.  He’s been generous to a fault.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  But just like previous boys in Michael’s life, Jimmy Safechuck’s days as a Michael favorite were numbered.  With his family, he went to visit his old friend Michael, but two former  Michael Jackson employees say the star didn’t even turn up.

Phillippe LeMarque (clip from British documentary):  : I sat at the table, and like Michael was going to be there at dinner, and we did that for the whole weekend, but…….

Stella LeMarque (clip from British documentary):  :  He was not coming. He was in Los Angeles.

Phillippe LeMarque (clip from British documentary):  :  Just don’t tell him that he’s not coming, that’s all.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary):  :  Jimmy Safechuck, like so many others that I have come across, just simply got too old………

Phillippe LeMarque (clip from British documentary): ……….Too old

Martin Bashir(narrating):    For his record buying public, Jackson was portrayed as a heterosexual predator with the video for his latest hit “The Way You Make Me Feel”.

Tatiana Thumbtzen (clip from British documentary):  The feeling and the mood was just kind of sexy.  I think with me strutting in this tight dress, and Michael chasing after me, that was the first video where the public, for the first time, saw Michael as a believable, heterosexual male.    

J. Randy Taraborrelli (clip from British documentary):  He actually looks hot, and sexy, and sexual, and there’s a chemistry between him and Tatianna.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  But in private, Michael Jackson continued to have friendships with boys, which sometimes included their whole families.

Maureen Orth (clip from British documentary):  The way he does it is to just make them feel that he just adores them and loves them all.

Martin Bashir(narrating): One of Michael Jackson’s young friends claims that Jackson stayed in his home, and won the trust of the entire family.

Geoffrey (clip from British documentary):  He adopted my family.  He started becoming more and more attached to my family as a whole, rather than just me individually.  This is the first letter that I ever got from him.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  This man, we’ll call him Jeffrey, had been 9 when he sent Jackson a poem.  The star began writing.

Geoffrey: (Reading a letter from MJ) “Hi! How’s my best little friend in the whole world doing?”

Martin Bashir (narrating):   Years later, when Geoffrey was 15, he says Jackson called him out of the blue, and invited him to his hideout in LA.

Geoffrey (clip from British documentary):  My parents dropped me off at his assistant’s house, and so we went into the car and drove to the secret spot.  I would get butterflies in my stomach.  I mean, it was unbelievable.

Martin Bashir (narrating):   That night, he says they watched TV and played videogames. But he claims that eventually, Jackson befriended his entire family.

Geoffrey (clip from British documentary):   We opened up our family to him, and he was kind of another member of the family.  He got to experience what a family atmosphere was about, and I think that isn’t something that he ever had himself.

Geoffrey (clip from British documentary):   says that many times, one of the most famous men in the world drove out to Los Angeles to stay in his spare room. 

Geoffrey (clip from British documentary):   He’d arrive around 6 o’clock, the lights would all be dimmed, or off, then we’d put on a video or two, and watch a video of him.  You’d be surprised how much Michael Jackson stuff  Michael Jackson was interested in watching.

Martin Bashir (narrating):   Even for a huge fan of Michael Jackson, he says his visits could be tiresome.

Geoffrey (clip from British documentary):   Our whole family catered to him.  I mean, if we’d want to go to bed, Michael needs to go to bed, his breathing exercises, he has to take a certain pill at a certain time, I mean the whole thing was the Michael Jackson show.

Martin Bashir (narrating):   Like Jimmy Safechuck and Emmanuelle Lewis, Geoffrey says that nothing sexual happened between him and Michael Jackson.  They were just good friends.  Corey Feldman was one of Michael Jackson’s best known young friends.  The star of dozens of Hollywood blockbusters as a child, he was delighted to become part of Jackson’s inner circle.  It was a relationship that began right at the height of Michael Jackson’s fame. Riding the success of “Thriller”, he was idolized by millions, Corey Feldman among them. Feldman had starred in “Gremlins”, and later “Stand By Me” and “The Lost Boys”. By 13, he was already a teen idol himself. Feldman finally got his chance to meet Jackson on the set of the 80’s smash hit movie “The Goonies”. Michael Jackson called him late that night.  Feldman said they spoke for 2 hours, and a friendship between a man and a boy began.  Corey Feldman says that attention from a superstar like Jackson was hugely important to him.  He became obsessed with the star, dancing like him, even dressing like him.  At the time, he says that Jackson was the most important person in his life.  But when I met him earlier this month, he said that there was a disturbing side to their relationship.  Jackson suggested that he would sleep over in his home, only if he had pornographic magazines there.  Feldman also says he noticed a book on Jackson’s coffee table.  The book contained pictures of naked men and women.  He said Jackson sat down, showing him the pictures.  The book was focused on venereal diseases and genitalia.  Feldman has stood up for Jackson on many occasions, most recently in 2003.  However, the two had fallen out for good a few years earlier, and he’s recently reevaluated their relationship. Feldman says he was never molested by Jackson.  Like many other children before him, as Corey got older, he says he had to leave Michael Jackson’s secret world.  Corey Feldman was subpoenaed to testify at Michael Jackson’s molestation trial.  He’s now named as a witness for the prosecution and the defense.  By 1987, Jackson was the world’s most popular entertainer.  His personal wealth was estimated at $100 million dollars.  But the 29 year old superstar was still living at home with his parents. He decided to buy a place of his own, to finally create his private world.

Dr. Carole Lieberman (clip from British documentary):  By creating Neverland, Michael was able to create his fantasy of being Peter Pan.

(Clip from “Living With Michael Jackson”)

Michael Jackson:  Peter Pan to me represents something that is very special in my heart. He represents youth, childhood, never growing up, magic, flying, everything that I think that children, and wonderment, and magic, what it’s all about.  And to me, I’ve just never grown out of loving that, or thinking that it’s very special.

Martin Bashir:  You identify with him.

Michael Jackson: Totally.

Martin Bashir:  You don’t want to grow up.

Michael Jackson:  No. I am Peter Pan.

Martin Bashir:  No, you’re Michael Jackson.

Michael Jackson:  I’m Peter Pan in my heart.

LaToya Jackson (clip from British documentary):   He wanted to put the whole Disney thing in our house, and my mother wouldn’t let him, and he said “I’m going to buy this property, and I’m going to do what I want I want to do.”

Martin Bashir (narrating):  I spent many weeks at Neverland with Michael Jackson, and in many ways it was a magical place. Children’s music filled the air.  There was a fairground, and a zoo, even its own railway line.  When I was there, a group of children were invited to play, and enjoy all of the amenities free of charge.  In 1988, Michael Jackson began building Neverland, his private children’s paradise.  I visited Neverland with Michael, and he said it was there that allowed him to enjoy the childhood he never had.  Michael Jackson invited me go-karting, on his specially built track. His child-like enthusiasm was obvious.  In Christmas 1990, he met someone he wanted to share his paradise with. And that meant not just sharing his home, but sharing his bedroom. When Michael saw the movie “Home Alone” that Christmas, he asked his housekeep to contact the young star Macaulay Culkin.

Phillippe LeMarque (clip from British documentary):    When Michael saw the move, he asked Norma Staikos to call him over and have him spend time at the ranch.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Some of the Neverland staff thought that Michael was clearly taken by the 10-year old star, his most high-profile young friend to date.

Phillippe LeMarque (clip from British documentary):The kid is cute.

Stella LeMarque (clip from British documentary):  He thought the kid was cute at the time.

Diane Dimond:  Michael Jackson marveled “Look at the pouty smile.  Look at those lips.”  He always pointed to people “Look at the lips.  I love his pouty smile”.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  :  Michael gave Macaulay Culkin the run of his new home.

J. Randy Taraborrelli (clip from British documentary):  They had food fights, and lot of great fun.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Michael often filmed his young friend.  They’re shown here in Fox Broadcasting’s “Michael Jackson’s Home Movies”, playing together as if they’re both children.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary): There are video games, there are animals, there are trains.

Phillippe LeMarque (clip from British documentary): They play all day long, they’ll watch movies.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary): Anything and everything you want, and it’s open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  And now, Jackson didn’t have to be parted from his young friend, day or night.  But according to Macaulay and Michael Jackson, nothing improper or sexual ever took place.

Macaulay Culkin (clip from ABC’s 20/20):  People, that’s really what they kind of don’t get.  He has this bedroom, but at the same time it’s 2 stories. But, yeah, it wasn’t anything weird, and it wasn’t anything we thought about.  We’d go to the movies, we’d to this, we’d do that, and we’d plop down, go to sleep, and wake up. It’s just kind of what friends do.  I’ve slept in the same bed with a bunch of my friends, that’s kind of like what happens.

(Clip from “Living With Michael Jackson”)

Michael Jackson:  I have slept in the bed with many children.  I sleep in the bed with all of them. When Macaulay Culkin was little, Keiran Culkin would sleep on this side, and Macaulay Culkin is on this side, his sister’s in there, we’d all just jam in the bed.  Then we’d wake up at dawn, and go in the hot air balloon.  We have the footage.  I have all of the footage.

Martin Bashir:  But is that right, Michael?

Michael Jackson:  It’s very right. It’s very loving. It’s what the world needs now.  More love.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  From now on, it would become normal for some of Michael Jackson’s friends to share his bedroom.  Michael Jackson had built Neverland, his Peter Pan paradise.  Macaulay Culkin had come to stay, and other children would stay in Michael Jackson’s bedroom.  And for a moment, many parents were happy to let them.

Maureen Orth (clip from British documentary):  Because it’s Michael Jackson, and he’s a celebrity, people’s judgment seems to fly out the window, particularly these parents.

Martin Bashir (narrating): Despite some raised eyebrows, nobody had publicly questioned Jackson’s relationship with boys.  But he was about to meet the boy who’d change his fate forever. By 1993, Jackson’s career had gone stratospheric.  At the age of just 35, he was now one of the richest, most powerful men on the planet.  His friendships with young boys had set him on a collision course, and Jackson’s next young favorite would bring him crashing to the ground in full public view.

Raymond Chandler (clip from British documentary)::  The psychiatrist asked “What was the worst thing that’s ever happened to you in your life?”  And he (Jordan Chandler) said “Meeting Michael Jackson”.

Martin Bashir (narrating):    Ray Chandler is the one close member of the Chandler family that isn’t bound by a confidentiality agreement, following his nephew’s claims of sexual abuse in 1993. He did not witness the events that follow, but he says that they were described to him by the boy and his father.

Ray Chandler (clip from British documentary):  Obsessed with Michael Jackson, 4 years before they met, the boy already wanted to look and dance just like Michael.

J. Randy Taraborrelli (clip from British documentary):  It was inevitable that Michael was going to meet some boy whose family was somehow going to try to bring him down. It had to happen.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  The 12 year old boy came from a broken home, and like many of Michael’s previous friends, was unusually good looking.

Ray Chandler (clip from British documentary):  Very smooth skin, very fine smooth features.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary):    You would pass him on the street and you would have to stop and look at him.  He was so beautiful!

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Ray Chandler says, to begin with, there was nothing remarkable about the friendship.  Michael exchanged numbers, and as usual began calling the boy.

Ray Chandler (speaking directly to Bashir):   He’s a 12-year old boy, taking the phone, and going into his bedroom and closing the door.  Something he had never done before. He hadn’t dated any girls. This is something you expect 2 puppy love young teenagers to do.

Martin Bashir (Narrating):  Then he says Michael invited the family to Neverland.

Ray Chandler (speaking directly to Bashir):   What was significant was the ride to Neverland.  Michael’s in the front with the chauffeur.  Sitting on Michael’s lap was a young boy about 12 years old.  On my way up to Neverland, and my nephew testified about this, Michael was caressing this boy in a clearly sensual way.  Kissing him the cheek, on the neck, caressing him, it was overtly sexual.

Martin Bashir: So why was he doing it?

Ray Chandler: I believe it was a test.  The purpose of which was “Is this mother, is this child going to be repulsed?”  Is the mother going to say “Turn this limousine around! Take me home!”  Or is she going to be polite and go through the weekend and never go back again?

Martin Bashir (narrating): The boy, his sister, and his mother, joined Michael Jackson on an all-expenses paid trip to Las Vegas.  At this point, the boy says, the sleepovers began.

Maureen Orth (clip from British documentary):  Michael rented the very scary movie “The Exorcist”.

Ray Chandler: He played it, and the boy was scared.  Michael suggested that he spend the night in his room, rather than sleep alone.

Martin Bashir (narrating): The boy would later tell a psychiatrist, brought in to evaluate his claims, everything that he said followed .  The sessions were recorded.  I listened to those tapes with the boy’s uncle Ray Chandler.  Tonight, you can hear some of those tapes for the very first time. If the boy is telling the truth, they detail a slow and steady seduction that took place over months.

Ray Chandler: I think he wanted to sleep with my nephew from the moment he saw him. I hate to use the word “love”, but in Michael’s mind perhaps that’s what it was, love at first site.

Martin Bashir (narrating): When the mother found out the boy slept in Jackson’s bedroom, the boy says she challenged the star.

Audio clip of Jordie speaking with Dr. Gardner:  He go my mom feeling so guilty she broke down in tears and decided, “Okay, I believe you.”

Ray Chandler (speaking directly to Bashir): He told her that she was putting barricades in her relationship, that it was all about love and trust, and she should trust him, there was nothing wrong with it, it was all very innocent. But he cried, and he made – as my nephew described it – “he made my mom feel so guilty that she cried too

Martin Bashir: Why did Michael Jackson cry?

Ray Chandler: I think it’s because crying works.

Audio clip Jordie speaking with Dr. Gardner: “And so from that point on I was in his bed until the end of the relationship.”

Martin Bashir (narrating): Ray Chandler says that the next day, Michael Jackson gave the mother an expensive bracelet.  According to the boy, Michael Jackson had not just got close to him, the world’s most famous pop star had moved in with his family.

Maureen Orth (clip from British documentary):  Michael spent 30 straight nights in a row, sleeping in the same bed.

Ray Chandler (clip from British documentary):  Michael’s chauffeur would drop Michael Jackson off at the house at night, and pick him up in the morning.

Diane Dimond(clip from British documentary):  Michael would go back and spend yet another night.

Ray Chandler (clip from British documentary):  They’d have dinner, they’d watch TV, they’d play video games, they’d do homework.

Diane Dimond(clip from British documentary):  It’s such a bizarre and odd thing to think that this man, who has millions and millions and millions of dollars, would want to bunk with a young boy.

Ray Chandler (clip from British documentary):  Yeah, I’m mean, they were just a regular family. Well, regular is probably not the right word.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  The taped interview with the boy describes how he says the relationship turned sexual.

Audio of Jordan Chandler speaking to Dr. Gardner: One night we were sleeping in the bed, I think it was at Neverland, and he just leaned over and hugged me. 

Ray Chandler (speaking directly to Bashir)  Just a little hug, nothing more. That’s it.

Audio of Jordan Chandler speaking to Dr. Gardner: He hugged me and I thought nothing of it.

Ray Chandler (speaking directly to Bashir):  But then the hug would get a little longer.

Audio of Jordan Chandler speaking to Dr. Gardner: He graduated to like kissing me for a longer amount of time.

Dr. Gardner: On the lips?

Jordie: Yes.

Ray Chandler (speaking directly to Bashir): And then a peck on the cheek would become a peck on the lips.

Jordie: A peck on the lips, and he put his tongue in my mouth.

Ray Chandler (speaking directly to Bashir): And then you’d have an embracing hug with a long kiss on the lips.

Bashir (narrating): Then, in the spring of 1993, Michael Jackson took the boy to Monaco, where he alleges things go much more serious. His claims about Michael Jackson’s secret world were about to become very public indeed. In spring 1993, Michael took this boy and his family to Monaco, as VIP guests at the World Music Awards. These clips were specially shot for the ceremony. Onlookers were shocked to see the boy on Michael’s lap.  Yet the star was aware he was being filmed, and didn’t look like a man with anything to hide. But, if the boy is telling the truth, there was a new and secret side to their relationship.  Later, in his claims to police and social workers, he would claim that now is when things got much more serious.

(Audio of Jordan Chandler)

We were alone, and we took a bath together.

Ray Chandler (clip from British documentary):  They got undressed in front of each other, they saw each other naked. They took a bath together, and the masturbation began. They were locked together in that suite in Monaco for 2 days, and things really escalated seriously at that point.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Some weeks later, the boy’s father confronted his son.

Ray Chandler (clip from British documentary):  There was only one question he asked him: “Did Michael Jackson touch your penis?” He just said “Yes! He did touch my penis”.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  During his psychiatry sessions, the boy would make even more detailed and graphic allegations.

Audio of Jordie speaking with Dr. Gardner: One time when he was masturbating me, he started masturbating me with his mouth, and like if I didn’t do it, then I didn’t love him.

Ray Chandler (speaking directly to Bashir): They would masturbate themselves, in front of each other.  There was frequent oral sex, on the part of Michael performing oral sex on the boy.

Martin Bashir (narrating): Soon it would be announced to the world that the star who said he loved children, was now being accused of abusing one of them.  Bill Dworwin was the lead investigator on the case in Los Angeles.

Bill Dworwin(clip from British documentary):   You go into Michael Jackson’s bedroom, it’s a very large room, there’s a lot of stuffed animals, a lot of things that would be attractive to children.  It wasn’t a surprise because I’ve went through many people’s homes and found the same types of items, although on a lesser scale.  One item that we found in a locked filing cabinet was a book showing boys in nude poses. It’s not illegal. It’s a book that I’ve seized in other investigations. If it’s a person who has this material, who has a sexual interest in children, it becomes child erotica. 

Martin Bashir (narrating):  As more damaging details emerged, it was a testing time for Jackson, but he hadn’t seen anything yet.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary):  It was December 20th, 1993, and the police came knocking at the door of Neverland with a warrant to photograph Michael Jackson’s private parts.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  The boy had drawn and described distinctive markings on Jackson’s genitals.

Bill Dworwin (clip from British documentary):   Based upon what the boy had said, we obtained a search warrant, not only for Jackson’s residences, but for Jackson himself.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary):  They wanted to match up the boy’s rendition to what the reality was. Your front private parts, your back private parts, your side private parts. The most telling mark occurred when Michael Jackson actually lifted his penis, as if in an aroused state.

Ray Chandler  (clip from British documentary): When things get aroused, you see the other side, and those were the descriptions that he gave.

Martin Bashir (narrating): According to the lead investigator, the boy’s description matched. 

Bill Dworwin (clip from British documentary):   We corroborated what the boy had said, and we were able to corroborate it with the photo of Mr. Jackson.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary):  Did it prove that he had actually engaged in sexual molestation of this boy? No!  But absent another adult eyewitness, what would have?

Martin Bashir (narrating): Jackson’s attorneys have repeatedly denied the boys allegations, calling him a liar, and his family greedy extortionists.  But Michael Jackson and his legal team decided to end his ordeal.  He paid the family a massive settlement, reported to be around $25 million dollars.  With the boy’s case settled, the criminal case collapsed, and Jackson was never charged.

When I interviewed Jackson, I asked him about what happened in 1993.  The questions upset him deeply.

(Clip from “Living With Michael Jackson”)

Martin Bashir: What was that like when you first heard the allegations that were being made against you?

Michael Jackson: It was shocking, and I’m not allowed to talk about this by way of law…..

Martin Bashir: But how did you feel about what was being said, I’m not asking you to talk about was said…….

Michael Jackson: I was shocked because God knows in my heart how much I adore children……

Martin Bashir: Isn’t that precisely the problem? That when you invite children into your bed, you never know what’s going to happen?

Michael Jackson: When you say bed, you’re thinking sexual, they make that sexual, and it’s not sexual, we’re going to sleep, I tuck them in, I put a little music on, I read a book, it’s very sweet, I put the fireplace on, I give them hot milk, we have cookies, it’s very charming, it’s very sweet.

Martin Bashir: Sure!

Michael Jackson: It’s what the whole world should do!

Martin Bashir: You reached a financial settlement with the family. I didn’t want to do a long, drawn out thing on TV like OJ, and all that stupid stuff, it wouldn’t look right.  I just said “Look, get this over with, I want to go on with my life, this is ridiculous, I’ve had enough, go.”

Martin Bashir: As part of their settlement, the family could never discuss their relationship in public again.

J. Randy Tarroberrelli (clip from British documentary): This was nothing to Michael Jackson, in terms of his finances, but it was everything in terms of his life, because it gave him a chance to start anew, and make some decisions.

Martin Bashir (narrating): A few months later, he would get married. The first key decision Michael made, after his disastrous PR exposure when he was accused of molestation in 1993, was to get married. Just 4 months after he paid millions to the boy who accused him of being a pedophile, Michael Jackson married Elvis Presley’s daughter, Lisa Marie.  But that wasn’t the end of Michael Jackson’s association with boys.  The appearance of young boys in Michael’s life showed that it would take more than an accusation to end the superstar’s friendships with young boys.  Just weeks after Michael’s marriage, 13 year old Frank Cascio became the new boy in Michael’s life, much to the shock of the police.

Bill Dworwin (clip from British documentary):   He was travelling with 2 boys, brothers from New Jersey.  We were concerned for the children’s safety.  We contacted the parents of those children, who believed that Jackson did not do anything improper.

Martin Bashir (narrating): Michael had gotten to know Frank as a baby, when he used to stay at the hotel the boy’s father managed in Manhattan.   Frank Cascio says that Jackson’s love for children is sincere, and not at all sexual.

Latoya Jackson (clip from British documentary):  When you’re innocent, and you’re doing everything that is perfectly normal and right, I’m not going to deviate from that.  What am I doing that’s wrong?

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Jackson was now a 35 year old married man, but he still saw nothing wrong with boys sleeping in his room.

J. Randy Tarroberrelli (clip from British documentary): Lisa was strong minded, and had a good sense of public relations coming from her family, and she realized that the appearances of impropriety caused by Jackson’s relationships with young boys were bound to do him in again. She felt that he should never be around boys ever again. Ever. So she was adamant about that, and he was just as adamant that she doesn’t get to tell him what to do.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Less than 2 years after their wedding, the couple split. But even if Lisa Marie didn’t make it “till death do us part”, Frank remains close to the star.

Maureen Orth (clip from British documentary):  He’s someone that Michael trusts, and he’s decided to make his life with Michael Jackson.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  One of the most puzzling things in Michael Jackson’s secret world is the behavior of children’s parents, particularly the mothers who send their young boys to Neverland.  Sandra Sutherland is a former private investigator.  She was employed by the accuser’s attorney back in 1993, to check out the boy’s story.

Sandra Sutherland (speaking to Bashir): Neverland, to me, epitomized what in the law is called an “attractive nuisance”.  There are pedophiles that I’ve come across who own a game store, or toy shop, or a kid’s book shop, places that your kids, and their parents……………Neverland had a zoo, it had a video arcade, it had a private movie theater, it had Michael Jackson, the idol of children all over the world.  It was the perfect, ultimate lure.

Martin Bashir:  So it wasn’t an innocent playground for the recreation of children?

Sandra Sutherland: Well, I think a lot of children did have an innocent, recreational experience there, and Michael’s very generous to some sick kids.  But it was more than that, though, I think.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  When Sandra Sutherland began investigating, she said she met a number of mothers sleep alone with Michael Jackson.

Martin Bashir (speaking to Sandra Sutherland): What did being Michael Jackson’s favorite involve for that child?

Sandra Sutherland: Well, he got to sleep with Michael in the main house, and the parents and siblings slept in the guest house.

Martin Bashir: So the deal was “If you’re Michael Jackson’s special child, you sleep in his room?”

Sandra Sutherland: Yes.

Martin Bashir (narrating): Sutherland says there was sometimes a bizarre competition between mothers to win Michael’s attention for their sons.

Sandra Sutherland: There are parents whose children they thought were having an absolutely wonderful experience being Michael’s special friend, and they also gradually came to realize that their child’s time in the sun was very limited.  There would come a time, after a year or two or three, that they would be supplanted by a younger child, and there was a certain discontent among a couple of mothers when they realized their time was almost up.

Martin Bashir (narrating): During her investigations, Sandra Sutherland also says that she came across a maid at Neverland whose 9-year old son was an occasional visitor. Sutherland says she was reluctant to speak out, but eventually she did tell her story.

Sandra Sutherland: She was very worried that her son was likely to be a victim, if he hadn’t been already.

Martin Bashir (narrating): It really emerged that Michael Jackson paid the boy $2 million dollars, without admitting any wrongdoing.  Michael’s current attorney says that it was a mistake to settle any of these prior claims, because they were baseless.  The boy and his mother are now on the prosecution witness list in the current case.  Jackson first survived pedophile accusations a decade ago.  They cost the star far more than the $25 million dollar payout.  In recent years his record sales have plummeted, and so has his personal fortune. In the meantime, Michael became a father.  I spent time with his children during the making of my documentary, and I spent time with his baby, the day after he’d been dangled out of a window in Berlin.  But throughout this period, Michael Jackson has carried on, befriending young boys.

Ray Chandler (clip from British documentary): If this was the guy next door, the minute he said he was sleeping with boys around the block, he’d be tarred and feathered.

Martin Bashir (narrating): But Michael Jackson isn’t the man next door.  He’s a 46-year old superstar who continued to have boys sleeping over.

Juju (clip from British documentary):  When I slept on his lap, he wasn’t like touching me on the parts, I was just sleeping with him and he was hugging me, doing nothing to me.

Martin Bashir (narrating): 9-year old Juju met Jackson the summer before last, and spent the night at Neverland with his brother and other children.  He’s also joined Jackson on trips to Toys “R” Us.

Juju (clip from British documentary): He’s like the most best person I’ve ever met because he’ll buy you anything you want.  Anything.

Martin Bashir (narrating): Juju’s family has known Jackson for 9 years, since his older brother Akhmed became one of Jackson’s young friends.

Akhmed (clip from British documentary): When I asked my parents if I could spend the night, they were like “Yeah, sure” because they know he’s not a child molester, and all that stuff is crap.

Hanadi Fattouh (Juju’s mother) (clip from British documentary): I never felt any weird thing about him.  I will never believe what they say.

Juju (clip from British documentary):  When I told my friends, they were surprised, but they thought he was gay, but he really wasn’t so I told them “I’m not going to be your friend anymore if you keep saying that!”

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Juju and his brother say nothing sexual ever happened between them and Jackson.  The current accusations have done nothing to shake this family’s faith in him.

Hanadi Fattouh (clip from British documentary):  I know he’s been accused 2 times already, but I never believed it, and I trust Michael, and I’m always going to be beside him.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  One of those accusers would soon pose the greatest threat yet to Michael Jackson’s freedom.  It all began more the 2 years ago, when I first met the so-called “King of Pop”. We were filming my documentary “Living With Michael Jackson”.    During that time, we met this 12-year old boy. During that time, neither I nor the young boy knew that our brief encounter would lead to the indictment of one of the world’s most famous entertainers for the crime of molestation.  Before the interview began, Jackson took the boy for a private chat, according to the boy’s grand jury testimony reported by ABC News.  The boy said that Michael asked him if he wanted to be an actor, and that this was his audition.  Michael wanted him to say good things about him, grab his hand, and act like Michael was his father.  The boy stunned the world by exposing how Jackson, the superstar was still openly inviting young boys into his bedroom, although Jackson said he slept on the floor.

Dr. Carole Lieberman (clip from British documentary): When I heard those words “If you love me”, it sent chills down my spine because those are classic pedophile words.  “If you love me, you will do this.”

Martin Bashir (narrating): Psychiatrist Carole Lieberman was so alarmed by what she said were clear signs of abuse, that she filed a complaint with the Santa Barbara authorities.  A complaint that was later dismissed.

Dr. Carole Lieberman (clip from British documentary): He’s leaning against Michael’s shoulder, looking up with these puppy dog eyes.  He’s just so submissive to Michael, and you can tell how much control Michael has over him.

Martin Bashir (narrating): What outraged many people was hearing Jackson talk about sharing his bed with young boys.  After all, this was the same man who in 1993 paid more than $20 million dollars to a boy who claimed the superstar abused him.  But even though Jacksons’ relationship with this boy raised some of the same questions, no one today, not the boy, not the police, not the prosecutors, claim that any abuse had occurred at the time of my interview.  The alleged molestation would come later.

J. Randy Taraborrelli (clip from British documentary):  All I remember is the sinking feeling in my gut that this is going to be trouble.

Martin Bashir (narrating): February 2003.  My documentary aired.  The reaction was immediate.  “Who was this boy with Michael Jackson, and why was he sharing his bedroom?”  Later the question would become “Was that boy molested by Michael Jackson?”  Jackson had met the boy 2 ½ years earlier. The 10-year old was at the hospital fighting for his life, riddled with cancer.  He made a wish.

Jamie Masada (clip from British documentary):  The TV in the room was on, and Michael Jackson was on, and he looked up and asked “Can I meet Michael Jackson?”  I said “Yes! You could do that!”

Martin Bashir (narrating): By that time, the boy’s family thought he may only have weeks to live.

Jamie Masada (clip from British documentary):  He had an 18 pound tumor in his stomach, and they had to take one of his kidneys out, and his spleen out.  The cancer was spreading all over his lungs and liver.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary): He wanted to meet Michael Jackson in the worst way.  He gave him his phone number. He got those late night phone calls.  He ultimately got that invitation to Neverland.  He and his family went to Neverland and they were wowed!

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Miraculously, after meeting Jackson the boy eventually recovered.  And, like other boys, he would end up in the star’s bedroom.

Diane Dimond (clip from British documentary): Piercing eyes.  Million dollar smile.  He fits the Michael Jackson pattern.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Like some of Michael Jackson’s other young friends, this boy, from a troubled home with limited resources was lavished with attention and gifts, and he says there was something else: pornography.  The boy says he and his younger brother looked at porn on the internet with Michael Jackson. He says they were in Jackson’s bedroom with the superstar’s friend Frank Tyson, who we met earlier in this broadcast, when he was one of Jackson’s young friends years before.   ABC News consultant Joe Tacopina represents Frank Tyson.

Martin Bashir (speaking to Joe Tacopina): Let me read you something that the accuser said happened on one of his very first visits to Neverland.  “Frank started pushing the computer, and I didn’t know what he was doing.  And he put it on, like, pictures of girls.  One of those girls had her shirt up and was exposing her breasts.”  Was your client ever involved in showing the accuser pornography?

Joe Tacopina : Absolutely not.

Martin Bashir (narrating): When my film aired in England, it sparked a firestorm.  Jackson’s picture of holding hands with the boy was flashed across the world.

Wendy Murphy (clip from British documentary): Clearly the catalyst for this whole saga was the airing of the video.  That’s when Michael Jackson was revealed to all of us as the guy who thought it was just lovely for men to sleep with boys, and it put Michael Jackson in a position of having to defend himself.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Prosecutors say that just before the film aired in the US, Jackson’s team, desperate to control the damage, whisked the boy and his family to this exclusive 5-star resort in Miami.  It is here, the boy says, that the superstar gave him wine, calling it “Jesus Juice”.

Wendy Murphy (clip from British documentary): If the jury believes Michael Jackson gave this child alcohol, they’re going to be much more inclined to believe all of the evidence, because a man who gives alcohol to a child, especially a child with a compromised immune system, is not one who respects children, and is more likely to molest them, because he’s not caring about them, he’s trying to cause them harm.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  On the private plane home, the boy says Jackson gave him wine again, in soda cans.  The defense says that Jackson never drank with the boy.  Meanwhile, the question on everyone’s lips was “What was Michael Jackson’s relationship with the young boy?”  Jackson’s answer came 2 weeks later, in a TV special to rebut my documentary.  The boy’s mother defended the star, in a written statement read by Maury Povich.  The mother now says that statement, and several others, were made under duress.  (Get her statement) And then, the unthinkable.  Just when the whole world was watching, the boy claims Jackson sexually abused him twice, putting his hand down the boy’s pants, and rubbing his private area.  His younger brother claims that he witnessed two other occasions of abuse, when his brother was sleeping.  Jackson’s camp says the timing of the alleged molestation is absurd.

Joe Tacopina : After all that attention has been brought on that relationship, he waits until after the controversy, after the hysteria, to then begin some sort of a sexual relationship with him?  That defies common sense.

Wendy Murphy (clip from British documentary): To some extent I believe that this is the weakness of the prosecution’s case.  On the other hand, this is probably why Michael Jackson chose that period of time to molest the child. He knew he would be insulated from prosecution, because what law enforcement official would ever take on a case where the child who’s accusing him was, only 2 weeks earlier, in a video claiming Michael Jackson had never touched him and was the best guy on the planet?

Martin Bashir (narrating):  The mother says she was never told about the abuse, but one night, in a 4am phone call from Michael Jackson’s bedroom, she says her son confided that he and Jackson had been drinking “Jesus Juice”.

Larry Feldman (clip from ABC News): When she heard about the liquor, and her son drinking wine, that was the trigger that changed everything in her mind, as to whether Michael Jackson was or wasn’t their best friend.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  The mother says that Neverland had become a nightmare. She says they were threatened by Jackson’s aides, not allowed to leave the property, and that she and her family were being held hostage.

Joe Tacopina : During the period of time that they were allegedly held hostage, we have receipts that will show the mother and her teenage daughter getting manicures and pedicures, shopping at stores. I mean, it’s laughable!

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Jackson’s supporters say they are confident that they’ll be able to destroy the credibility of the accuser’s story at trial.

Martin Bashir (speaking to Joe):  You’re fundamentally saying that this cancer victim, and his entire family, are liars.

Joe Tacopina : Yes. If you want to attribute a reason, or a motive, I don’t think it’s hard to find one.  It’s financial. Michael Jackson has a bulls-eye on his back.  He’s a one-man lotto ticket.

Martin Bashir: What evidence do you have that this is a shakedown?

Joe Tacopina : Who do they go to first? A lawyer.  Not the police. You see, if my child had been molested, and I believed my child had been sexually abused by someone, I’m not looking for a personal injury lawyer.  I’m looking for a police officer.  Or a baseball bat!

Larry Feldman (clip from ABC News): Nobody shook Michael Jackson down then, and nobody is shaking him down now.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Larry Feldman represents the family.  He also represents the alleged victim in 1993, who settled for around $25 million dollars. A coincidence? The Jackson camp doesn’t think so.

Joe Tacopina: It’s the mother who drives this train.  It’s the mother who exercises tremendous control over these boys, who is claiming not to be after the money, but all she wants is money.  Who, instead of going to the police when she believed these allegations had merit, she went to the same attorney got a $20 million dollar settlement from Michael Jackson 10-years earlier.

Wendy Murphy (clip from British documentary): It takes a lot to believe that a mother, who cares about her son, she may not be the best parent on the planet, but she cares about her son, she would force him to lie about being molested?  I mean, where are those kinds of parents?  I’ve never encountered such a case, where a mother would be so cruel to a child she loves, that she would force him to falsely believe that he was assaulted.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  The mother says that this time, there will be no out of court settlement.  That she doesn’t want “the devil’s money”.

Larry Feldman (clip from ABC News): They took them to children’s services, and they took them to the District Attorney’s office, and its unfair to attack some child, like there’s some ulterior motive behind going through this criminal case.  I don’t think that people really realize how painful it is for some young person to have to have to deal with this.

Larry Feldman (clip from ABC News): And so it has come to this, the so-called “trial of the century”.

Wendy Murphy (clip from British documentary): The prosecution is alleging a variety of charges, many charges, including not just child molestation, but providing alcohol to a minor, intimidation of a witness, kidnapping, extortion.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  For the first time, the megastar will be forced to face his accuser in court.

Wendy Murphy (clip from British documentary): In a sense the prosecution is set to put on a very full picture of not a one-time incident with Michael Jackson fondling the child in his home, but a rather extensive story of not only how Michael Jackson came to meet the family, how he selected them, how he groomed the child, how he became suspicious that he was going to be found out, and the steps that he took to try to silence this family.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Recently, Jackson proclaimed his innocence, casting himself as the victim.

Wendy Murphy (clip from British documentary): I’ve prosecuted hundreds of child sex cases, and never had the corroborative evidence the prosecution has here, and I’m talking about fingerprints on pornography, Michael Jackson giving the child alcohol, this is stuff the jury is going to find hard to dismiss, and more importantly, it’s going to transform the air in the courtroom because, all of a sudden, Michael Jackson isn’t that nice-guy, celebrity superstar.

Katherine Jackson (clip from ABC News): Michael continued with children because he was innocent.  The people that accused him know they’re lying.  Why would a boy nurse someone back to health, and then turn around and even when their sick, and this kid was sick, he was dying.  Why would he molest him?  Would you? Nobody would! A sick child? No!

Wendy Murphy (clip from British documentary): His mother has said “I know for sure 100% he’s not guilty because he loves children, and he would never do this”, and the truth is those people don’t know, they weren’t there, child abuse usually doesn’t happen in front of witnesses.  They really can’t be in a position to know.  And mothers love their sons, and I’m sure Mrs. Jackson loves her son, and she wants desperately to believe that it’s not true.

Martin Bashir (narrating):  Michael Jackson’s representatives declined to comment on tonight’s broadcast, saying that they are prohibited by the judge’s gag order.  I was nearing the end of my journey into Michael Jackson’s secret world, and what to think at the end of it all. I’d met some of Jackson’s young friends. Terry George, who said that Jackson talked to him about masturbation during a phone call.  And we’ve seen a number of boys who said that nothing untoward happened to them.  I haven’t seen Michael Jackson since my documentary aired.  The next time I’ll see him will be in court, where his secret world will be judged.

J. Randy Taraborrelli (clip from British documentary):  He should know better. He’s made a lot of mistakes.  He’s done a lot to himself, he’s his own worst enemy when it comes to some of his decisions.  But he’s not a child molester.

Martin Bashir (speaking to Sandra Sutherland): So do you think that Michael Jackson is a predatory pedophile?

Sandra Sutherland: Yes, it’s a hard word, but I think he is, yes.

Latoya Jackson (clip from British documentary): In my heart, I truly believe he will be vindicated.

 Analysis:

1. “Some of the individuals who appeared in that documentary received compensation for their participation. No payment was made for any of the interviews conducted by Martin Bashir or ABC News”: The “individuals” who were paid were the ones who participated in the sleazy British documentary, and as you guys will see as you read this analysis, the so-called “documentary” was nothing but another hit piece on MJ, where his enemies were given a platform to spew their lies unchallenged, just like this one!

2. “I could never have foreseen what consequences that encounter would have.”Oh really, Bashir? You had to have known that there would be some dire consequences for Michael Jackson! After all, it was YOUR IDEA that Gavin hold Michael Jackson’s hand and place his head on your shoulder! And not only did you not allow MJ to review the documentary before it aired, but you and your partners in crime at ITV and ABC didn’t get Janet Arvizo’s express written consent before airing the documentary!

At the end of this post, I included a witness statement from one of MJ’s employees, who documented how she desperately tried to contact Bashir in order for him to schedule a time when MJ could review the footage, and he avoided her like the plague!

3. “Terry George claims he was one of those boys.”    No he wasn’t! He was absolutely discredited in this post we did on phantom victims, of which George was the most vocal by far!

4. “There were little boys everywhere that would come to the hotels.” Yeah sure, Maureen! I bet you used Gene Simmons as a “source” for that rumor, huh?  In this interview, Simmons said that he knew of multiple musicians who quit after seeing “boys coming out of the hotel rooms”.   Fortunately, MJ’s guitarist Jennifer Batten was able to thoroughly refute him, and Charles Thomson finished the job with this Huffington Post article!

5. “By 1984, Michael’s second album “Thriller” was well on its way to being the best seller of all time.”  Wrong, Bashir! Thriller wasn’t MJ’s second album; it was his SIXTH! Get your facts straight, you lazy, lying tabloid hack!  His first five albums were Got To Be There (1972), Ben (1972), Music and Me (1973), Forever, Michael (1975, and Off The Wall (1979)!

6. “I read their credit report.”  Have you no shame, Dimond? You went digging into the most intimate details of the private lives of the Safechuck’s? How on earth were you able to obtain their credit report? I wish the fans could obtain Dimond’s credit report so we could see how her standard of living has increased since she started smearing MJ! I wonder who’s paying her to write all of those lies!

7. “Jimmy Safechuck has not alleged any wrongdoing by Jackson.” & “Jimmy Safechuck, like so many others that I have come across, just simply got too old” Of course he hasn’t! Nobody has alleged wrongdoing except the Jordan Chandler, Jason Francia, and Gavin Arvizo!  And would Jimmy have chosen to get married at Neverland if he had been abused by MJ?  Would he have been able to even THINK about getting married at Neverland if he had “simply got too old”, as Dimond suggested? Here is what our friend Rockforeveron had to say about Jimmy on her blog:

What about other alleged victims? One such kid is Jimmy Safechuck, seen here with Michael and an unidentified woman in 1988. It was heavily suggested in tabloids that Michael gave Jimmy some kind of settlement at some point in the late 80s – likely based on what LaToya had claimed while being beaten by her husband in the 90s – which is actually kind of funny for a few reasons. One, as stated here, the judge refused to allow testimony from Jimmy who stated that nothing had happened.Two, he had later got married at Neverland circa 2000, and three, and most funny of all: Jimmy Safechuck was an orphan that Michael had befriended and the reports Michael involve Michael paying off a “father” – try to figure that one out.

And here’s what Mesereau had to say in court:

“Six, Jimmy Safechuck, who we are informed says nothing happened. They don’t propose to call him as an alleged victim either, but they’ve got the same old gang again coming in to try and capitalize on the case, people who have been adjudged to be liars, and they are. People who asked for money from tabloids, who’ve asked for money from Mr. Jackson, et cetera.”     

8. “For his record buying public, Jackson was portrayed as a heterosexual predator with the video for his latest hit “The Way You Make Me Feel”. You’ve got to be kidding me, right? So because MJ played a role in his video that normal, everyday twenty something year old men  play out in real life (i.e. checking out women and flirting with them), he’s now a “predator”?  And this wasn’t even the first time he had a female love interest in a video; does the name “Ola Ray” ring a bell? I wonder if Bashir would say that MJ was  a “predator” in the Thriller video too, huh?

9. “That was the first video where the public, for the first time, saw Michael as a believable, heterosexual male.” Shame on you, Tatiana! For her to sit there and say that about MJ, knowing damn well it isn’t true, just shoes what people will say for the right amount of money!  But what else should we expect from her, unlike Lisa Dean (the model who starred in “Dirty Diana”), Tatiana Thumbtzen has milked her 15 minutes of fame for all it’s worth! She wrote a book titled “The Way He Made Me Feel” in order to cash in on her connection to MJ, and of course she accepted money from those scumbag British tabloids who financed this piece of garbage. In her interview below, she said her book wasn’t a “tell all”, but rather an “autobiography”, but my question is this: who would give a damn about Tatiana if she wasn’t in MJ’s video?


 

Besides, the first time that the public saw MJ as a “believable, heterosexual male” was when he was on “The Dating Game” in 1972!


10. “Which sometimes included their whole families.” Uh, no Bashir! MJ’s friendships with boys didn’t “sometimes” include their whole families, but it ALWAYS included their whole families!  Once again, this is another example of Bashir’s twisting of the facts to suit his own agenda.

 11. “Years later, when Geoffrey was 15, he says Jackson called him out of the blue, and invited him to his hideout in LA.” Hey Bashir, why would MJ call Geoffrey at age 15? I thought by then Geoffrey would have gotten “too old” for MJ?

12.  “Jackson befriended his entire family”. & “I think that isn’t something that he ever had himself.” It’s obvious that MJ was looking for a second family, due to the dysfunction in his own family, and I think Geoffrey couldn’t have said it better in that quote.  That seems to be the motivation for his friendships with all of the families included in this documentary, including (unfortunately) the Chandlers.

13.   “Feldman says he was never molested by Jackson.” Of course he wasn’t molested!! Would Corey Feldman perform a cover of “Billie Jean” as a tribute to MJ if he had been molested?


And here’s an interview he did on the day after MJ died:


14. “Ray Chandler is the one close member of the Chandler family that isn’t bound by a confidentiality agreement, following his nephew’s claims of sexual abuse in 1993.”  Yep, he certainly was not bound by the confidentiality agreement, and he exercised his right to free speech oh so eloquently!  He made no less than 20 media appearances, but there was one appearance that he was DESPERATE to avoid, and that was on the witness stand in a court of law! Ray used the Journalist Shield Law to get out of testifying against MJ. Believe it or not, he wasn’t subpoenaed by Sneddon, but by Mesereau! If MJ was truly guilty, then why would his defense team want him to testify against him? Please read the series below for more information!

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/category/ray-chandler-was-subpoenaed-to-prove-his-all-that-glitters-lies-in-court-why-did-he-fight-it/

15. “It was inevitable that Michael was going to meet some boy whose family was somehow going to try to bring him down. It had to happen.” J. Randy Taraborrelli has been a very controversial figure in the fan community. Many fans don’t trust him or like him because of his books, and because of things that he has publicly said about Michael. But I think that we can all agree with him on this one; when the most famous superstar on the planet is constantly hanging out with “normal families”, sooner or later SOMEONE will try to take advantage of him, and if it had not been the Chandlers, it could have been some other family down the line.  But can you blame Michael for wanting to be around “normal people”? If you came from the cesspool of dysfunction otherwise known as the Jackson family, you’d want to be around a normal family too!  

16. “Michael spent 30 straight nights in a row, sleeping in the same bed.” Get the hell outta here, Maureen!  That myth has already been debunked so many times that it’s not even believable anymore, except to the gullible idiots who eat up everything she writes in her columns like mindless zombies!  Here is a post we did that put an end to the “30 consecutive days” myth once and for all! 

17. “One item that we found in a locked filing cabinet was a book showing boys in nude poses. It’s not illegal. It’s a book that I’ve seized in other investigations” Oh gosh, here we go again! I bet you guys can see this coming from a mile away, huh? The issue of MJ’s “porn collection” will come up. Well, I’ll give Det. Dworwin credit this time; at least he pointed out that those 2 books are not illegal!  Fortunately, we did a multi-part series exposing the truth behind MJ’s art collection! 

However, in this February 2003 episode of Dateline NBC, the same episode that aired after MJ refused to grant them in interview after the Bashir debacle aired (this was discussed at length in this post), Dworwin continued to perpetuate the fable  that Jordan’s description matched, but yet it STILL was not the “smoking gun” that prosecutors wanted to help them bring down “a celebrity”.

A 34-year veteran of the LAPD, he’s investigated more than 4,000 sexual exploitation cases. He was also one of the lead detectives investigating the charges against Jackson. And for the first time, he is talking about the investigation from the inside, exclusively with “Dateline.”

Dworin: “Everybody who listened to this child, ‘cause he’s not only interviewed by my officers, he was interviewed by Department of Children and Family Services, he was interviewed by the district attorney’s office at a later date, we were all satisfied he was a very credible witness.”

Mankiewicz: “You’ve been at this a long time. You no doubt have interviewed children whose stories were rehearsed or coached for one reason or another.”

Dworin: “That’s correct. In this instance, we didn’t feel that it was coached. We felt that the child was telling us the truth.”

Police did know the victim’s family had approached Jackson, looking for a financial settlement. But Dworin says the boy’s story stood up under questioning, and immediately all of Jackson’s homes were searched for evidence, including the singer’s Neverland ranch. And for the first time time, an investigating officer is talking on the record about what he found.

 

Dworin: We found books and the books depicted children in the nude. This itself is not a crime.”

 

The nude photographs were not pornography, by the legal definition, and Jackson says he does not remember having them. But to Dworin any nude photo of a child in the home of a 34-year-old man is suspicious.

Dworin: “Pedophiles will frequently have this material available.”

Mankiewicz: “Because?”

Dworin: “Because they can obtain it legally It’s not illegal to possess, and it’s used for sexual satisfaction and arousal.”

Besides the pictures, Dworin was suspicious of the setup he found in Jackson’s bedroom.

Dworin: “You had to approach the bedroom by a hallway. And in going down this hallway, it sets off an alarm in Jackson’s bedroom.”

Mankiewicz: “Which suggests what to you?”

Dworin: “To me, it suggested that it was a warning in case something was occurring that was improper, that that activity would stop.”

Mankiewicz: Is it not also possible that this was someone who’s worried about fans breaking into the house or worried about crime and you know wanted to be tipped off in the event that there was an intruder?”

Dworin: “No, at the— at his ranch, he had sufficient security, not to be concerned about intruders.”

Mankiewicz: “So you think that alarm system had a different purpose than alerting Michael Jackson to a burglar?”

 

Dworin: “Oh, absolutely. It was just for his bedroom. Not for the rest of the house. It was just for anybody approaching his bedroom door. He knows when someone’s approaching that door.”

And inside the bedroom…

Dworin: “Walking into Michael Jackson’s bedroom was like walking into a 13-year-old’s bedroom. There was a lot of material that 13-year-olds would be interested in doing and playing with. Games. Various objects that would be an attraction to 13-year-olds.

Mankiewicz: “Okay, now you see that bedroom through the eyes of a seasoned child molestation investigator. Is it not also possible that Michael Jackson is sort of a child-like guy who didn’t have much of a childhood when he lived at home. And so because he’s wealthy and self-indulgent, he’s having one now.”

Dworin: “Oh, very much so. And that’s my concern. This is very common. I’ve seen this type of activity, this type of material found in hundreds of homes that I’ve entered. Things that are of an interest to children that will lure the children into that house is also in fact an interest to that adult who has had sexual interest in children.”

Dworin says one critical piece of corroborating evidence was found not in Michael Jackson’s home, but on Michael Jackson’s body: an intimate description that the young boy gave police.

Dworin: “We had served a search warrant to photograph Michael Jackson. Those photographs corroborated the description that the boy gave us regarding Michael Jackson’s genitals.”

Mankiewicz: “The boy was able to describe discolorations of Jackson’s skin?”

Dworin: “Yes.”

Mankiewicz: “On his genitals, accurately.”

Dworin: “Very much so.”

To hear former detective Bill Dworin tell it, that investigation convinced the police. But prosecutors wanted more evidence if they were going to charge Michael Jackson with sex crimes.

 

Dworin: “They wanted the smoking gun. We could not produce the smoking gun.”

Mankiewicz: “And a smoking gun in this case would have been what, a photograph of the two of them having sex?”

Dworin: “Of course, that would be great, but we didn’t have that.”

Mankiewicz: “Did that make it impossible to go forward?”

Dworin: “It made it difficult.”

Mankiewicz: “Difficult because you never go forward without physical evidence or because the accused in this case was a huge celebrity?

Dworin: “I believe it’s because he was a huge celebrity.”

Mankiewicz: “Was Michael Jackson guilty?”

Dworin: “I believe he has a sexual interest in boys.”

But Bill Dworin would never have a chance to talk to a jury about Michael Jackson. District attorneys in Los Angeles and Santa Barbara declined to move forward, saying they couldn’t prosecute without a cooperating witness.

Ok, so Detective Dworwin thought that the alarms were a sign of MJ trying to protect himself from being “interrupted” by someone walking in on him abusing kids. He seems to think that because Neverland had so much security as it is, there was no other reason to have those alarms except to allow him to abuse children in private. But let’s see what Kit Culkin, the father of Macaulay, had to say about those alarms in his book “Lost Boy”, from page 48:

What the child molestation charges of 1993 did, perhaps above all else, were to insist that Michael forever thereafter, as to everything that he would ever do in life, be viewed solely through a lens of pedophilia. I’ll give but a single “for instance”; one that goes to the well-reported on alarm system just outside Michael’s bedroom and the so-called “secret room” actually in that bedroom.  Michael, remember, is a Scardey-Cat, which isn’t to say that there weren’t times when perhaps he had just cause to be so.  Take the helicopters that would buzz Neverland on a daily basis (indeed, often several times a day). One could hear their approach over and above the crackling speech on security walkie-talkies, which always attempted to give their positions (“Moving Northeast. Eleven O’Clock. Two Hundred Feet. Copy.”); this before their actual arrival, which could be perfectly deafening. It always gave one the sense that an invasion was taking place. So bad and so frequent did these visits become as to cause Michael at one point to make in-depth inquiries regarding the purchase of the air space directly above this property (such as Manhattan real-estate tycoons are allowed); solicitations which only led to his being told that local zoning laws did not allow for this.  Many of these helicopters contained (none-too-surprisingly) “ladies and gentlemen of the press”, who (we should all well know) have an absolute license under the First Article of the Bill of Rights (also known as the First Amendment to the United States Constitution), to do pretty much as they please, no matter how much it may infringe upon an individual’s right to the pursuit of happiness in the privacy of his or her own home. American freedom, after all, depends on it (the media themselves will tell you this); and it is a license that, when it is not our own personal pursuit and our own personal privacy that is at risk, we all perfectly relish! But, be this as it shamefully may, others of these whirly-bird attack squads were not made up of such “girls and boys”, but rather of the merely curious; folks who would gladly pay for a helicopter rid who’s tour included as its centerpiece the buzzing of Michael’s home. To Michael the Scardey-Cat they all represented the specter of hooded terrorists, dressed as perfect ninjas, skidding down ropes onto the property, the better to commit “The Kidnapping of the Century”; and even though (in perfect hindsight) none of this ever did occur, there were other times when no less benign incidents would only go to feed this fear.  Take the morning when Michael arose and walked into his private garden, there to find a fan crouched in the bushes; a fan “fanatical” enough (for so comes the word) to enter the property and scale the wall and spend the night there (Can anyone yet remember the just who and the just where of John Lennon’s murder?!).  That Michael would respond to such as this by actually outfitting his bedroom with a relatively conspicuous store-bought beam alarm system (one that the entire cleaning staff knew existed and that could be simply stepped over), as well as with a so-called “secret room” (really a closet) to which he could run in times of such emergency should not surprise anyone; indeed, these are things that under like circumstances most any of us would do. But when viewed through the lens of pedophilia, the existence of these could only have a far more sinister purpose. And that (and all like unto it) was Michael’s problem in a nutshell, and here was little that Michael could thereafter ever do about it. It was the bell that couldn’t be un-rung. It was the genie who wouldn’t return to the bottle.

So as you can see, Kit offered a completely rational explanation for the bedroom alarms and the secret room. Michael tried to make Neverland a “no-fly zone” by attempting to purchase the airspace, but was unable to, and as a result helicopters had free access to fly overhead. Even worse, for a fan to get past all of the security and hide in MJ’s garden must have been an absolutely terrifying experience for MJ (or for anyone, for that matter), and MJ had a right to take precautions to protect his privacy.  That incident disproves Det. Dworwin’s theory that Neverland had ample security, and therefore MJ installed those alarms for sinister reasons.

But Kit made a good point; when you look at MJ through the lens of a detective, or anyone else who is just suspicious, then everything about him could be a sign of guilt, no matter how harmless it is.  Also, when you think about what happened to John Lennon, how could MJ NOT be terrified? Lennon’s murder was a warning to every celebrity to be highly suspicious of all fans at all times!

Actually, it’s a good thing that MJ installed that bedroom alarm, because it helped vindicate him in 2005! Star Arvizo claimed that he witnessed MJ molest Gavin on several occasions by walking in on the act, but wouldn’t MJ have known that Star was approaching when he heard the alarms? Sneddon argued that the volume of the alarm was turned down during that period of time, and thus MJ wasn’t able to hear it.  But defense witness Larry Nimmer (a professional videographer who was hired to film Neverland after Judge Melville refused to allow jurors to tour the property) totally debunked that theory by performing a test where he placed his camera in MJ’s upper chamber (where the molestation allegedly happened), and he had a maid activate the alarm by entering MJ’s living quarters, and by doing this he demonstrated how loud and audible the alarm was, thus destroying Sneddon’s claim. Nimmer included this test in his documentary “The Untold Story of Neverland”, which is available on the DVD that I purchased, and the video of this test is below! This test proved that Star Arvizo was LYING about walking into MJ’s bedroom and seeing MJ masturbate Gavin without MJ’s knowledge!

Both Nimmer and Maria Gomez (the maid) explained their test on the witness stand, and for more details please read the following article:

http://site2.mjeol.com/mjeol-bullet/defense-proves-welfare-fraud-explains-alarm-%C2%96-mb-269.html

Another person who defended the bedroom alarms was, ironically, Adrian McManus, one of the “Neverland 5” who lost a multi-million dollar lawsuit against MJ and to this day owes him $1.4 million dollars.  She was fired from Neverland for theft prior to the allegations, and then sold lies to the tabloids about witnessing MJ molest young boys, including Macaulay Culkin.  Former employee Francine Contreras testified against McManus’ character by describing the display at McManus’ home of pilfered items from Neverland, including toys that were meant to be given to needy children! (Have you no shame, Adrian? How low can you go?)

During her cross examination, she was presented with a transcript of her 1994 deposition, where she defended the bedroom alarms by stating the following:  “When you’re a celebrity, you lead a difficult life.  People kill celebrities.  That little sensor benefits him for his life.” That quote and others made by McManus can be seen @ 4:36 in the following video which is part of the series “What did happen to Michael Jackson” by a diehard MJ fan with the YouTube username “LunaJo67″, which I highly recommend everyone watch.

18. “According to the lead investigator, the boy’s description matched.” BULL! Anyone who regularly reads this blog knows that we’ve already debunked this myth countless times, so there’s no need to dwell on it again here, except (as always) to say that the following five posts prove that Jordan’s description absolutely, positively, did not match!

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/all-you-wanted-to-know-about-it-but-were-always-afraid-to-ask-part-1/

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/all-you-wanted-to-know-about-it-but-were-afraid-to-ask-part-2/

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/all-you-wanted-to-know-about-it-but-were-afraid-to-ask-part-3/

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/08/21/the-story-of-one-telltale-splotch-missing-from-the-smokin-gunpublic-eye/

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/was-it-match-or-mismatch/

19.He was travelling with 2 boys, brothers from New Jersey.  We were concerned for the children’s safety.  We contacted the parents of those children, who believed that Jackson did not do anything improper.”  These 2 boys were the Cascio brothers, Frank and Eddie Cascio.  They have always been staunch defenders of MJ, and proudly denounced the allegations last December on the Oprah Winfrey show.

20:  “When I asked my parents if I could spend the night, they were like “Yeah, sure” because they know he’s not a child molester, and all that stuff is crap.”This is Akhmed Elatab, who was 16 when he visited Neverland in 2002 (after obtaining his parent’s permission, of course).  After MJ was arrested in November 2003, he defended MJ in this article, and dispelled many of the misconceptions about him and Neverland.

21.The mother now says that statement, and several others, were made under duress.” The statement that she alleged was made under duress is the following, which was stated in MJ’s “Take Two” rebuttal, beginning @ 4:30:

I’m appalled at the way in which my son has been exploited by Martin Bashir. The relationship that Michael has with my three children is a beautiful, loving, father/sons/ & daughter one. To my children and me, Michael is a part of our family.”

22.On the other hand, this is probably why Michael Jackson chose that period of time to molest the child.” Oh please! This is tabloid smut at its worst! She’s going to sit there with a straight face and say that MJ decided to molest Gavin, who he had already known for more almost 2 years, right AFTER the documentary, and AFTER he was cleared by the DCFS? You’ve got to be kidding me! Wendy Murphy is one of the bottom feeders who has profited off of MJ by calling him the “Teflon Molester”, among other names. But she has no credibility whatsoever, as this article proves.

And people have the nerve to call us fans crazy!

23. “She says her son confided that he and Jackson had been drinking “Jesus Juice”. For those of you who haven’t read this yet, here is a post that describes the origins of the term “Jesus Juice”, and it’s very important that you know this because there is a common misconception that MJ really did use this term, even if he didn’t serve alcohol to children, when in fact  MJ NEVER used this term at all!

24:Why would he molest him?  Would you? Nobody would! A sick child? No!” This is emblematic of how Bashir cherry picked the interviews that were used in this piece of trash documentary. Katherine gave an interview to ABC News in 2004, yet this 10-second clip is all we see of it! And it’s a clip that shows Katherine making a very poor attempt at defending MJ, so that explains why it was included! I know she meant well, but you don’t defend MJ against allegations of molestation by asking the interviewer if they would molest a child! Obviously, what Katherine is trying to say is that MJ is not the type of sick, deranged monster to molest a sick, cancer-ridden child, but the problem is that due to the public’s “Wacko Jacko” perception of MJ, many people (such as legal analyst Wendy Murphy) argued that this is exactly the type of kid that MJ would molest, so as a result Katherine’s noble attempt to defend MJ fell flat.  Bashir included that clip so that he could paint Katherine as a naïve mother who would say anything to defend her son. 

Further analysis of Martin Bashir:

Here is another testament to Bashir’s malicious and deliberate intentions of destroying MJ with his documentary, let’s analyze the witness statement of Eveyln Tavasci, who served as one of MJ’s personal assistants during the time that Bashir filmed his interviews. No analysis is even necessary! Just pay attention to the parts that I bolded. It’s so self-explanatory!

I will give a few excerpts from her statement below, and her entire statement can be read here, beginning on page 28.

I, EVELYN TAVASCI, of 4S28 Katharine Avenue Sherman Oaks, California, USA, WILL SAY as follows -

1. Having been employed by MJJ Productions inc (“Productions”) In March of 1991, I was appointed by Mr. Jacteon as his personal assistant in 1993. Productions (among other things) owns and administers the intellectual property rights arising from certain of Mr. Jackson’s activities, including the rights relating to the film footage which is in dispute in this case. I am the executive administrator of Productions and run the office. I am duly authorized to make this Witness Statement in support of the present application. Save where otherwise Indicated, its contents come from my own knowledge and are true. Insofar as they have been provided by third parties l believe them to be true to the best of my knowledge and belief.

11. In about the first week of August 2002, I received a call from Hamid Moslehl (“Hamld”), who is a photographer and videographer engaged by Mr. Jackson from time to time. I cannot now recall whether Mr. Bashir was still at the Ranch. Hamid said that he had asked Mr. Bashir for the film tape but that he would not give it to him. I spoke to Mr. Bashir (after he had left the Ranch) and told him that Mr. Jackson wanted the tapes. He told me not to worry, because he would be show him the tapes-the next time that he saw Mr. Jackson. I then spoke to Mr. Jackson by telephone and raised the matter with him. I told him that Mr. Bashir had kept the tapes and was proposing to show him the footage. He said that it would be okay, but emphasized that he would need to see footage In order to exercise his approval rights.

13. On or about 22 or 23 January 2003, l was contacted by Mr. Jackson who requested that Joe Wllcots fly to London in order to check the quality of the lighting of the documentary as it was being edited. I believe I then left a message on Mr. Bashir’s mobile conveying Mr. Jackson’s request. The day following this conversation, Mr. Bashir called me rather upset because, having discussed this matter with Mr. Jackson, he was afraid what Mr. Jackson had asked Mr. Wllcots to do would take away from ‘the human aspect” and “correct and passionate portrayal of Mr. Jackson as was his goal”.  He was extremely passionate in his plea that I speak with Mr. Jackson. I only responded by stating that Mr. Jackson should have every right to have Mr. Wilcots view the footage. Mr. Wllcots eventually went to London on 30 January 2003 despite the fact that we had not heard back from Mr. Bashir in order to make the necessary arrangements. Mr. Wilcots remained In London until I believe 2 February 2003 when he returned home having had no opportunity to view the film.

16.On 24 January I received a fax from Mr. Bashir which included a letter dated 23 January signed by him on Granada headed paper (pages [] of E.T.1). I have to say that my reaction to that letter was that it was horrible; it appeared that Mr. Bashir was not going to let Mr. Jackson have the tapes, a proper opportunity to view the film, or to exercise his right of final approval. He was covering himself. The letter stated that:

‘….Having spoken to Michael Jackson on a daily basis recently and given that he is away in Miami, I thought it would be helpful if I outlined our plans for the forthcoming documentary. We are now in the latter stages of editing and the complex sound dub should be completed towards the end of next week. As a courtesy, I have told Michael Jackson that I will personally bring a copy of the program to show him prior to broadcast.  Since he Is travelling back to Los Angeles on Saturday 1m February, he suggested that I meet with him at Neverland and on the following day, February 2, I am pleased to be able to do that; the-program will be broadcast in the UK on Monday February 3…”

17. As far as I am aware, it was quite untrue that Mr. Jackson had been speaking to Mr. Bashir “on a daily basis”. On the contrary, Mr. Jackson had begun constantly asking me to get hold of Mr. Bashir because he wanted to speak to him urgently and he had not been able to do so. I had also tried to contact Mr. Bashir without success, leaving numerous messages for him to return my calls. He had failed to respond to any of them.

18. I phoned Mr. Jackson Immediately upon receipt of Mr. Bashir’s letter and told him what was in it. He was very upset about it because it seemed to be a violation of the arrangement reached with Mr. Bashir. He asked me to contact Brian Wolf to take the matter up with Granada. I asked him whether he was planning to be at the Ranch at the time suggested by Mr. Bashir. He said that he was not going to be there and would still be in Miami and wanted to see the program in Miami, at least one week before It was due to be shown. He also told me that there was no arrangement regarding a viewing on 2 February at the Ranch. Following my discussions with Mr. Jackson, I phoned Brian Wolf and told him to take the matter up with Granada and told him about the letter of 31 July 2002. I also faxed Mr. Bashir’s letter of the 23 January 2003 to him (pages [ ] of Exhibit “ET1″).

19. On Tuesday, 29 January Mr. Jackson was in Miami. He rang me and said that he had talked to Mr. Bashir very briefly. He asked me to ring him back and to get him to call Mr. Jackson. On that day I tried to contact Mr. Bashir by phone five times. I left messages for him on his mobile and left one message at Granada’s offices asking him to call me back. Mr. Bashir did not contact me and he did not contact Mr. Jackson. I kept Mr.Jackson informed of what I was doing and he told me to keep trying to contact Mr. Bashir. After that, I repeatedly tried to contact Mr. Bashir in the week before the broadcast was due to be aired. I tracked him down on his home number (which I had obtained from Url Geller} on Wednesday, 29 January. He was surprised that I had managed to contact him at that number.

20. By this time, I had been made aware of the two documents relied on by Granada in the context of this dispute, which-had been faxed to me by Brian Wolf, Esq. of Lavely & Singer, and the attitude it was taking to the imminent broadcast that Mr. Jackson had no approval rights. I asked Mr. Bashir about the documents and told him that Mr. Jackson was very upset about the line that Granada was taking, which was the complete opposite of what Mr. Jackson had wanted and what Mr. Jackson told me that Mr. Bashir had promised him. I told Mr. Bashir that the program could not be shown without Mr. Jackson’s final approval. Mr. Bashir told me that he was not going to pay any attention to those documents and that he would honor his agreement with Mr. Jackson, which he described as a “gentleman’s agreement”. 

He said that Mr. Jackson would be able to edit the program and exercise approval rights and that he planned to come over the following day (if not, then on Friday), If his office approved it, which I Interpreted as approving his travel plan/expenses. He said that Mr. Jackson could make the necessary changes and he would be back by the Friday and that the editing rooms in Gray’s Inn Road would stay open through the weekend. Mr. Bashir mentioned that he planned to visit the Ranch on 1 February. I responded that he (Mr. Bashir) was assuming Mr. Jackson would be present at the Ranch and that this might not necessarily be the case. He then asked if Mr. Jackson was still In Miami. I did not ask him how he knew this but confirmed with him that this might be the case. He said he would then fly to Miami but that he would check with me first.

21. I contacted Mr. Jackson and he was delighted. However, contrary to his earlier promises, Mr. Bashir did not appear in Miami until late Sunday, 2 February 2003. The day before the program was going to be broadcast Mr. Jackson has informed me that he never saw the program before it was first broadcast.

22. I believe that the facts set out In this Witness Statement are true.

One last note: on April 25, 2011, Martin Bashir granted an interview to Access Hollywood’s Billy Bush and some other media hack whose name I could not find.  It’s good that we have him on record for the second time saying he didn’t see or sense anything wrong with MJ.  He tried to do a good spin job by saying that MJ’s troubled childhood was the start of his troubles, but as usual he didn’t confess the role he played in MJ’s downfall, and those 2 star-struck fans disguised as journalists didn’t challenge him about his deceptive editing, on MJ’s rebuttal, on his testimony (or lack thereof) from the 2005 trial, etc.  They merely gave him a platform to continue to play the “good guy” in all of this, but what do you expect? They seemed so happy to be in his presence! The male host mentioned how he partied with Bashir the night before, so that’s what you get when you fraternize with the person you’re interviewing.

One thing that caught my eye was that faulty analogy he made about MJ’s bed sharing. He said that he would get an adverse reaction from the parents of his children’s friends if he “asked” to sleep in the same bed as them, thus implying that MJ “asked” parents to sleep in bed with their children. This is why we all have to have a razor sharp mind when listening to Bashir, Dimond, Orth, etc. They are very subtle in their falsehoods about MJ, and you have to analyze every syllable that rolls off of their tongues.  We already know that MJ never “asked” any child to sleep with him, nor did he force them or bribe them.  That’s why people are so hostile to MJ over this non-issue; because of misconceptions like this which are being spread by Bashir!

Another thing that jumped out is when he said that “we” made a documentary that was 1 hour and 59 minutes long. The “we” implies that both he and MJ edited the documentary, which we ALL know to be totally false, but you see how he was able to sneak it in and go unchallenged!

For more info on how Bashir was able to con MJ into doing the documentary, read this post. To read a non-MJ fan rip Bashir for the joke that he is, read this post, and pay attention to the comments I posted in reply to “Yngblkcons”, who wrongly said that MJ couldn’t control his “urges” to be around young boys, and that’s why he continued to hang out around them after 1993. (Click on the “replies” arrow to reveal my replies to him.)

In closing, and as a lasting testament of how Bashir’s reputation now precedes him, here is an article on how even Charlie Sheen refused to grant an interview to Bashir!!  When a disturbed person such as Sheen refuses to speak with you, you really can’t get any lower than that!

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  1. May 14, 2013 7:16 pm

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  2. October 20, 2012 10:49 pm

    Thanks, I know he was in LA during the trial. Someone optioned his book and was going to make a film, he said Danny Devito was going to play him

  3. October 20, 2012 9:22 pm

    “Youtube didn’t have the end credits, was Vitor Gutierrez involved in this film?”

    As far as I know he was. One of those Spanish articles in the Hideout forum said that Gutierrez was working together with Bashir on Bashir’s second documentary. He was one of Bashir’s four assistants.

  4. October 20, 2012 9:10 pm

    Youtube didn’t have the end credits, was Vitor Gutierrez involved in this film?

  5. Denny permalink
    June 4, 2012 12:12 pm

    Michael was ofcourse a mysterious man and all his secrets and untold stories got buried along with him in grave so please stop making false rumors about him.we didn’t let him live a peaceful life when he was alive and now he’s gone u people still make wrong prediction .rip michael.

  6. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 21, 2012 4:00 am

    “boys now grown up who say something did”

    I don’t want to watch it because i hate Bashir the site of him makes me sick who where the boys that said something happened?

    They take the bed sharing the wrong way and i think they do it on purpose because there is nothing wrong giving someone your bed seriously.

  7. sanemjfan permalink
    May 19, 2012 6:58 am

    Guys, I have added the video of Bashir’s “MJ’s Secret World” to the beginning of the post so that you can watch it for yourselves instead of reading through the transcript!

  8. sanemjfan permalink
    March 10, 2012 5:49 am

    @Anna Maria
    That’s a good observation! Thank you for your input!

    I’m working on getting the video of this documentary uploaded to Youtube, and I’ll let you and everyone else know when it’s up!

  9. annamaria permalink
    March 10, 2012 5:12 am

    The title of this documentary contradicts the content. It is called “Michael Jackson’s secret world”, and in the documentary bashir speaks about Michael’s public apperances with his young friends like with chandler in Monaco World Music Awards, or arvizo in the ‘Living with Michael Jackson’ documentary. So do bashir and dimond say that Michael had the habit of showing his victims to all the world before molesting them?

  10. lynande51 permalink
    January 20, 2012 9:28 am

    They also recalled Steve Robel to the stand to say that the alarm was not working the day of the Neverland Raid. The thing is in the video taken of them walking past the throne chair you can hear the alarm going off upstairs. So I wonder how they were going to explain that loud alarm and Michael doing what? ignoring it? when it not only goes off once but twice. It goes off when you go into the hallway that leads to his room. I know it sounds funny and to think that Sneddon called MJ pathological about security to his room in the opening statements and then he doesn’t even come up with a reasonable explanation as to why Star didn’t set it off when he walked through it twice. Not to mention the obvious question when you hear the cops walk up those stairs how quiet was Star? Then he had to be almost to the top of the stairs before he would have seen anything so what is their explanation for that? I think it is much more reasonable to think that Star did not see anything condsidering that either Michael wasn’t there or they weren’t there when all of this was supposed to be taking place. The original charges said 4 times one attempt and then 2 drinking charges From February until March. Then after they find out that Gavin was recorded how many times(4) by then saying that nothing ever happened they changed to story to being held captive and none of the touching happened until after February 20th. That makes it impossible because Michael left Neverland on the 20th to go to Miami to celebrate Blankets first birthday with the Malnik’s and did not comeback until the 2nd of March. Rijo and Simone Jackson were there and that was when Rijo saw the boys in the guest unit engaging in sexual activity while watching porn on TV. He got scared and went and stayed with Michael in his room on the 2nd, 3rd and then Michael had to go to LA and stay at the Beverly Hilton to get away from them. He came back on the 9th and Rijo was there and he stayed with him again. It makes a lot more sense to think these kids were lying about it then that whole contrived mixed up story does about having to escape Neverland and go to Janet’s boyfriends house 3 times by talking in code so people would pick up on it and then help them after being at the courthouse and the federal building and every single outlet store in Calabasas while they were staying at the Calabasas Inn during their abduction and false imprisonment. See even when I write it is doesn’t make any sense and yet that is the story. Here I think we need to hear this again.

  11. sanemjfan permalink
    January 19, 2012 11:49 pm

    I also added the video of Nimmer’s test of MJ’s bedroom alarms to this post as well!

  12. Maral permalink
    November 29, 2011 3:38 am

    Mankiewicz: “And a smoking gun in this case would have been what, a photograph of the two of them having sex?”

    Dworin: “Of course, that would be great, but we didn’t have that.”

    he got to be kidding me. this made me LOL

  13. Teva permalink
    November 20, 2011 5:33 pm

    @Shelly,
    “How do we know Schafesuck got married at Neverland circa 2000?” – Shelly

    Maybe you should ask Frank Cascio, he may remember.

  14. shelly permalink
    November 20, 2011 8:19 am

    I Know about Fournier’s cross, my question was about the Neverland circa, how do we know it happened during that event?

  15. November 20, 2011 7:55 am

    @Shelly

    Mesereau cross examination of Kiki Fournier,

    11 Q. And the so-called “young boys” the
    12 prosecutor referred to would come with their
    13 families, correct.
    14 A. Yes.
    15 Q. In fact, Jimmy Safechuck was married at
    16 Neverland, wasn’t he. Do you remember that.
    17 A. I didn’t even know he was married.

  16. shelly permalink
    November 20, 2011 6:37 am

    How do we know Schafesuck got married at Neverland circa 2000?

  17. lcpledwards permalink
    June 21, 2011 3:57 am

    @ Sara William
    Thank you for the compliments! Did you download and watch the movie, or just read the transcript? You can download the documentary from the blogroll (as well as the Frozen in Time and 2005 Harvard Law School seminars).

    Apparently, Dr. Gardner recorded his interview with Jordan, and somehow the Chandlers got hold of it and transcribed it (or maybe Dr. Gardner gave them a transcription as well?).

    Jordan Chandler, Jason Francia, and Gavin Arvizo all knew better than to claim they were penetrated, because then a medical exam would have been performed, and it would have proved they were lying due to a lack of physical trauma to their rectum. Anyone can lie and say they were fondled by someone, or forced to perform oral sex, and that’s why it’s so hard to defend yourself from those accusations. But they didn’t dare claim to be penetrated!

    MJJ Justice project did an EXCELLENT analysis of both Jordan’s interview and Evan’s phone transcript! Thank you Suzy! I didn’t even know about their analysis of Jordan!

  18. Suzy permalink
    June 21, 2011 3:39 am

    Sara

    There’s a great analysis of Jordan’s interview here: https://mjjjusticeproject.wordpress.com/2011/05/25/psych-interview-with-jordan-chandler/

  19. June 21, 2011 2:08 am

    David you did a great job ,but I was wondering how on earth did Bashir get hold of Jordan’s so called interview with Dr. Gardner ?? did they really have it on tape,my God !! what is the use of the settlement then right?
    Any molestation occurred ,it should happened an act of penetration,right!! I mean it blows my mind because every child abuse cases there were an act of penetration,however,with Chandler or Arvizo there was not!!!
    Regarding this interview of Jordan about the alleged molestation,I think we should analyze it .
    David if you have time, please .

  20. Teva permalink
    June 11, 2011 12:11 pm

    To the best of my knowledge Michael never said he “liked to sleep with little boys”. BS

    I also thought Paris Jackson gave the last word on the masks. It is not like they were wearing the mask to go and hold up liquor stores, but rather so they wouldn’t be photographed. If Paris said she understood the reason then these idiots don’t have a point.

    As for Blanket he looks healthy.

  21. stacy2 permalink
    June 11, 2011 11:34 am

    This was a comment a hater left on IMDB about a thread that was about Martin Bashir:

    “You fans are so delusional. Martin Bashir was just a jurnalist doing his job. He didnt put words in Michael Jackson’s mouth. Everything that was said and done was of Michael Jackson’s own doing. It was Michael Jackson who said he liked to sleep with little boys. It was Michael Jackson who dangled his baby over a balcony. It was Michael Jackson who made his kids wear masks. It was Michael Jackson who was seen holding hands with a young boy, and the list goes on. Bashir was there to find the truth and that’s exactly what he got. SHe presented Michael Jackson the way he saw him, as a complete nutcase. You fans need to leave the guy alone and realize that wacko Jacko was responsible for his own problems”

    This was my response:

    “Martin Bashir may have not put words in Michael Jackson’s mouth, but he did indeed portray him in a very negative light. I’m sorry but adding sinister commentary over positive footage and using only footage that supports your biased opinion isn’t exactly honest and objective journalism. Its nothing more than tabloid tv. Bashir wasn’t after nay truth. He was only after exploiting Michael Jackson and using him for his personal gain just like the majority of parasites and leeches MJ had to deal with all his life. Bashir had an agenda, and that agenda was to create a scandolous documentary and generate massive ratings even if that meant exploiting an innocent cancer stricken child. Maybe if he and Granada tv would have practiced responsible journalism from the very beginning instead of trying to make a quick buck, they probably could have saved the city of Santa Barbara millions of dollars and Michael Jackson 4 years of his life.

  22. shelly permalink
    June 8, 2011 5:24 pm

    The whole video is on youtube now.

  23. shelly permalink
    May 16, 2011 10:18 am

    I have a question why Sandra Sutherland talked to Bashir. Isn’t she bound by the settlement agreement?

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/michael-jacksons-15-million-payoff

    It’s on page 3

  24. May 7, 2011 8:39 pm

    Hi David,

    I can understand where nearly everyone here is coming from and sometimes it’s the things we don’t know or have full access to, that trip us up on how events are perceived. Especially since Michael’s world was just so darn complicated and out of the realm of what any of us are used to and I think all of us have a hard time fully grasping all he had to deal with.

    Michael was used to having a team of people that he had to put trust in. From the age of 5, he was performing in strip clubs and from a very young age, he was not only on stage, but having to perform as a “job” whenever Joe set up jobs for them and later Motown and then on to even bigger things. It became the norm for him for “the show must go on”. He always had people around him making decisions for him and with him. It became, I imagine, very normal for him.

    David, as you know, I sincerely respect your work. You dig deep to find facts and you do wonderful, in-depth research that I recommend to people whenever they are looking for facts behind the allegations especially, that came against Michael Jackson. You go into excruciating detail that very few know about and that everybody needs to know about. Thank you so much for that :)

    I can understand what you are saying David in that, if Bashir would have been thoroughly checked out, then none of this would have happened. I so wish that would have been the case.

    However, going by Debbie Rowe’s testimony in the 2005 trial, she stated that many of Michael’s handlers, managers and those surrounding him were all involved in setting Michael up for trouble so that they could profit from him, even to the point of having a “plant” at the tabloids. So, according to her testimony, there was a whole orchestrated effort going on with people who surrounded Michael, who were evidently in on setting him up for trouble and then telling Michael that they would “fix things” and in doing so, making lots of money off of Michael. Unfortunately, with the level of celebrity and fame Michael reached, it was a given that many would try to come in and take advantage of that and as we know, Michael had an abundance of people who came in and took advantage.

    I think that Michael was a very sensitive person. Most artists or creative types are. I think sometimes too his sensitivity was mistaken for being too soft or too gullible when instead, it was just his sensitive nature and his desire to believe the best in people. Unfortunately at times, due to this, he was hurt and taken advantage of terribly.

    We also know that Uri Gellar was paid an exorbitant amount of money for hooking Bashir up with Michael Jackson and though Uri has testified in interviews that he only introduced Michael to Martin Bashir with the thought that Michael would have his lawyers look over the papers, I’m not sure if that is believable seeing that Uri had a financial interest in this and was going to be paid (and was paid from all we’ve seen from credible sources) a great deal of money for helping to make this Bashir docu happen.

    I too wish that this never would have happened and that Michael and all who surrounded him would have looked further into this…but it also appears, from everything that has come out, that it’s quite possible that many of the people surrounding him, especially according to Debbie Rowe’s 2005 court testimony, were in on putting Michael in bad situations so that they could profit off of him that way and unfortunately, this was not only a financial mess for him, but even worse, something that really destroyed all that he had worked for as far as reputation and standing, because so many believed the lies that came from this.

    Tom Mesereau, Aphrodite Jones and others have stated their belief that the Bashir docu was a major set-up and it definitely appears to be…and coupling that with Debbie Rowe’s testimony it seems that it was an inside job from those who surrounded Michael at the time and wanted to profit off of him.

    I think that Michael was doing what he always had done in thinking he could trust those around him to help him (and ever since he was young he had to have others handling so much of his life’s details) and since the 1993 case had caused major doubt in people’s minds, especially the settlement (which, according to Geraldine Hughes, was something that his insurance company recommended), he was wanting so badly for the public to know who he really was and unfortunately, he trusted the wrong person recommended by someone he thought was a friend.

  25. lynande51 permalink
    May 7, 2011 4:10 am

    There was nothing that Janet Arivzo did not want monetary compensation for.Ever!

  26. Hana permalink
    May 7, 2011 4:00 am

    Well, according to Chris tucker’s girlfriend Azja PRyor, she believed that the motive behind the allegations was the BAshir documentary. Janet Arvizo wanted compensation for her son’s appearance in the film and when Michael broke his promise to buy the family new house and college funds for all 3 children, that’s when they started going lawyer shopping and came up with sex abuse allegations in an attempt to swindle money from him, but because of the new change of law, they had to go through a criminal case before a civil case.

  27. Teva permalink
    May 7, 2011 12:46 am

    I have no love for Martin Bashir. The way I see it the guy is a profiteer at best. I said it before and I will repeat it again, if Martin Bashir suspected MJ of being a CM why did he not report his suspicions to the authorities? No instead he made a documentary, and sold it for millions all the while insinuating “bad things” at Neverland. What does that make him? If you were to believe the prosecution’s argument that Gavin was molested AFTER the airing of the piece of trash then you have to believe Bashir could have prevented Gavin’s “abuse” had he gone to the authorities with his footage. The prosecution believed the mockumentary was strong enough that they showed it as their first piece of evidence AGAINST Michael Jackson. So haters should be indignant at what he allowed to “happen” to Gavin.

    The way I see it Bashir saw nothing suspicious at Neverland, but wanted to incite a visceral reaction from the public to create a demand for his mockumentary and career.

  28. stacy2 permalink
    May 6, 2011 4:58 pm

    In the take two footage, Bashir is seen questioning Michael about the constant judgement and ridicule by the media and why people are so evil and mean–yet he creates a documentary doing the exact same thing..wow

    He tries to portray Michael as a bad parent by leading viewers to believing that he intentionally did not know that he had put his kids in harms way by bringing them to a crowded zoo but leaves out the footage of Michael telling him that he thought the zoo would be closed. He then tries to portray him as a child molester by asking him to bring over a group of 50 children to enjoy his beautiful home, and then adds sinister voiceovers leading viewers to conclude that neverland is a dangerous place for children.

    This guy is pure evil. He caused nothing but great pain to Michael. He lost his beautiful home, his reputation was destroyed, and his career was practically over. All because of this joke of a documentary. As Uri Geller stated: “When Michael signed those contracts, he basically signed his life away”. But what I don’t understand is why did Bashir want to hurt Michael? Why did he want to portray him in such a negative light causing him more damage?

  29. Anna permalink
    May 6, 2011 3:24 am

    @lcpledwards

    I can’t say I disagree with your opinion that Michael can be blamed on some level for trusting Bashir. I didn’t get the impression from your previous comments that you were suggesting that somehow Michael deserved what Bashir did as a result or was placing all the blame on him. In my opinion all you were and are doing is acknowledging the situation for what it was/is, that Michael did trust Bashir based on false pretenses, and had he not, THIS documentary wouldn’t have happened. There was evidence as you said about Bashir’s unethical journalistic practices, and it’s unfortunate that Michael and his team didn’t vet Bashir as interviewer more carefully before the contract was drawn up. I think you are fully entitled to your opinion as am I.

    What I see happening here at this blog right now also seems to be happening at other places when the topic of defending Michael comes up. Anything negative against Michael regardless if it’s true or not should not be accepted by MJ defenders. Since when! If we can’t acknowledge when Michael exercised poor judgment regarding the Bashir documentary or other aspects of his life we’ll never succeed in vindicating Michael to the public. The public does not want to hear that Michael never said anything or did anything (no matter how naive or innocent) to cause what happened next in situations A,B or C. That does not and will never mean he deserved what happened next, it’s merely acknowledging his part in the bigger picture of whatever situation is being discussed. Sp what we all agree on here and what the public should agree on us with (should we succeed in education them about all of this) is that no matter what poor judgment Michael did use in this instance or others what Bashir and many journalists in the media did in reporting bias and inaccurate information was deplorable and worse, worse than anything Michael said or did (or at least in my opinion)

    I guess what I’m trying to say is as an MJ defenders we will do more to convince people of Michael innocence by being realistic and objective. If we just say Michael never did anything or said anything wrong ever regarding this or others issues in his life we will be shot down as fans who are simply blinded by love and nothing more.

    I know my comment might get some angry replies but I really think accepting the truth about Michael and in this case his innocence means accepting the good with the bad.

  30. Teva permalink
    May 6, 2011 3:00 am

    For the record I agree with David, and like I have always said, “desperate people do desperate things.” Bashir never would have been able to get near the Michael of the 80s, or part of the 90s. However, in 2002 Michael agreed without counsel to this unfetted access because he deperately wanted to repair a battered public image.

  31. lcpledwards permalink
    May 6, 2011 2:28 am

    @ Helena, Tatum, Lynette

    Let me be clear on this, because I don’t want to be misinterpreted. When I say that it was MJ’s responsibility to decline Bashir’s request for an interview, what I mean is that ultimately, no matter how much Uri Gellar or whoever else recommended Bashir, and no matter how many phony promises Bashir made, if MJ would have had his legal team and PR people do their due diligence on Bashir’s background, he would have known about all of those red flags and would have declined. The problem is that he agreed to do it, and actually started filming it, before all everything was finalized. By the time MJ’s lawyers saw the contracts, it was too late, because they were so weak that there was nothing legally that they could do to stop the airing of the documentary after Bashir betrayed MJ. If MJ’s legal team would have had the opportunity to review the contracts, they surely would have come up with a much stronger contract that would have prevented the debacle from happening in the first place. Actually, once Bashir’s background and references were checked, MJ would have surely rejected him BEFORE A CONTRACT COULD HAVE BEEN WRITTEN! It’s absolutely ridiculous that Bashir even had an opportunity to forge MJ’s name on anything, and to me that is a sign of dysfunction in MJ’s camp.

    I mean, look at what David Legrand said, and tell me that this isn’t indicative of something terribly wrong: “LeGrand said he “found it hard to believeJackson had signed two, one-paragraph documents giving Bashir and Grenada Television the rights to the footage shot at Neverland Ranch, including an interview with Jackson. LeGrand said such contracts are usually specific and detailed. The agreements Jackson made with Bashir were neither, he said.” For such an epic and unprecedented project as a 2 hour documentary, why did MJ sign 2, one freaking paragraph “contracts”? http://site2.mjeol.com/highlight-history/attorney-filmmaker-misrepresented-intentions-to-jackson.html

    I’m not absolving Bashir of his treachery, as he lied to MJ, took advantage of him, and probably did forge his signatures. But if MJ had one his due diligence, then Bashir wouldn’t have been able to do any of those things to him! And it was MJ’s responsibility to have his team initiate the background and reference checks, since Bashir presented his proposal to MJ, and not MJ’s team.

    It doesn’t matter what Bashir did to Diana or that father, or how other celebrities are also taken advantage of. I think MJ should have known better, as he had been in showbusiness for over 30 years at that point, and had probably signed hundreds of contracts throughout his career. If he didn’t trust the media, why did he let his guard down with Bashir? You can’t blame that father to MJ because that father is not a public figure who is constantly attacked in the media; he was just a grieving man who wanted info on his missing daughter. You wouldn’t expect him to be more careful with the media, but you would with MJ, or any other celebrity!

    Just imagine if he had said the following to Bashir: “You know what, your proposal sounds great, and that letter that you claim was written by Diana is very flattering to you, but give me a few weeks to discuss this proposal with my managers and advisors, and I’ll get back to you. We’ll have to do a background check on your work, to see if you’re as ethical as you claim to be, and we’ll also contact the Diana’s family to see what they think about you, and your interview with Diana. If they give me a good recommendation, only then will I consider working with you.”

    Let me ask you this: who gets credit for the Beatles catalogue acquisition? Do people say that MJ’s lawyers are shrewd business men? No! They give MJ the credit, because although it was a team effort to negotiate that transaction, ultimately it was MJ’s decision to approve of the purchase! So of course he will get the credit for it!

    Similarly, in my opinion, since it was solely MJ’s decision to grant Bashir the interviews, I believe he deserves the “credit” for that debacle as well! It seems like some people want to have both ways, and say how much of a great businessman he is when things go great, but when things go bad it’s the lawyers’ fault, or the managers, or whoever, and MJ is reduced to some childlike figure who is incapable of making decisions for himself. When people do that to him, I think they are doing him a disservice, because he is a man and should be treated as one, and men sometimes have to take responsibilities for the decisions they make. MJ took responsibility for being too trusting of people, and in numerous interviews during and after the trial he said he wouldn’t be as trusting anymore, so that is a tacit admission of his responsibility in the matter. Joe Jackson also said that MJ being so trusting of people got him into this mess in the first place (in the 2004 interview with the blond headed British woman), and even Mesereau said that MJ was naive (in his opening statements). MJ also said he would put himself in “so vulnerable a position ever again”, so that’s also a tacit admission that he needed to use better judgement when around other people’s children so that he wuldn’t enable any more false accusations.

    So that’s my opinion on the matter. I didn’t mean to imply that MJ “deserved” it because he didn’t. Bashir is a two-faced snake for what he did, and I can’t wait until he’s off the air. But that debacle was NOT inevitable; it would have been prevented from happening in the first place had MJ been a little more skeptical of Bashir. If what Bashir did was so unavoidable, then this type of stuff would happen all the time with celebrities, but it doesn’t. Can you name another celebrity who had a 2 hour documentary aired about him WITHOUT his final approval? No, because there are none, and that’s because even though celebrities get taken advantage of by the media, it usually isn’t to this extent.

    OK, I’m done with this subject because I feel that I’ve stated my opinion, and if anyone feels differently, and wants to blame everyone except MJ, then they’re entitled to their own opinion.

  32. May 5, 2011 9:07 pm

    I don’t believe Michael signed both contracts. I believe Bashir forged his signature on one of the documents. Here’s an interesting quote from his cross examination:
    MESEREAU: Mr. Bashir, you have been accused in England of forging signatures, correct.
    BASHIR: Incorrect.
    MESEREAU: No one has ever made that accusation, sir.
    MR. BOUTROUS: I’m going to object, Your Honor. Hearsay; lack of foundation; beyond the scope of direct examination.
    THE COURT: Sustained on beyond the scope of direct.
    MESEREAU: Mr. Bashir, if you look at the two documents you referred to that you say Mr. Jackson signed, his signature appears to be different from document to document, correct.
    MR. BOUTROUS: Same objection, Your Honor. And — same objection on the shield law, Your Honor; and beyond the scope of direct.
    THE COURT: Sustained; beyond the scope.

    Stacy, thank you for the quote. This is a top important point! Thomas Mesereau is asking these questions for a purpose. He explained at the Harvard seminar (if I remember it correctly) that this was one of the methods to deal with an uncooperative witness – if the defense attorney knows the story but the witness is unwilling to tell it, the attorney has to make his point via asking questions.

  33. May 5, 2011 8:50 pm

    “I’m not blaming MJ for Bashir’s selective editing or negative commentary, but I am blaming him for being so gullible in the first place.”

    David, we shouldn’t blame Michael for being “gullible”. He and Bashir are poles apart, and what Bashir considers to be a totally acceptable behavior was totally unacceptable and even unheard of for Michael. An honest person is simply incapable of imagining what a dishonest person is capable of doing because he thinks differently and adheres to the values which the other person totally lacks.

    And Bashir certainly has a very cunning way with people. The Guardian made a story about the way he misled different people, Princess Diana included:

    BASHIR ‘MISLED’ FATHER OF TEENAGE PRODIGY
    Julia Day
    MediaGuardian, Friday 25 April 2003 13.38 BST

    Just months after his controversial Michael Jackson scoop, Martin Bashir has been found guilty of misleading the father of a teenage prodigy to gain access to his daughter for a TV interview.

    In a damning report, TV watchdogs have ruled that ITV’s star interviewer and his Tonight with Trevor McDonald team misled Farooq Yusof into believing they were investigating the role of the authorities in his daughter’s disappearance and failed to give a “clear indication as to the nature and purpose of the programme”.

    The broadcasting standards commission ruling will come as a blow to Bashir’s journalistic credibility coming so soon after the controversy surrounding the methods he employed to secure his world exclusive with Jackson.

    Mr Yusof, whose daughter Sufiah ran away from Oxford University at the age of 16, told a confidential hearing of the BSC in February that Bashir had promised to give him information about the whereabouts of his daughter in return for an interview.

    Following a protracted investigation, the commission has decided to partly upheld Mr Yusof’s complaint. The watchdog stated that: “Mr Bashir misled Mr Yusof into believing that he was investigating the involvement of the authorities in the disappearance of his daughter.

    “[The BSC] takes the view that the programme-makers had lulled Mr Yusof into a contrary belief for their own purposes, and had not given him a clear indication as to the nature and purpose of the programme.

    “The commission therefore finds unfairness to Mr Yusof in this respect.”

    Following the broadcast of the programme by Granada on ITV on March 8 2001, Mr Yusof complained he had been misled by the programme-makers. He told the BSC that Bashir had sympathised with him and his family and had offered to lend his assistance in trying to find the truth about his daughter’s disappearance.

    The claim by the programme-makers that the purpose of the programme was not known from the earliest stages was unconvincing, said the BSC.

    The commission’s finding that Bashir had misled Mr Yusof was based on a recording of a discussion that had taken place between them.

    The ruling will inflict further damage on Bashir’s reputation, which took a battering after his expose of the pop superstar Michael Jackson, which gave a close-up view of the singer’s life including the revelation that he shares his bed with teenage boys.

    After Living with Michael Jackson was broadcast on February 3, the singer accused Bashir of “a betrayal” and called the programme “a travesty of the truth”.

    Jackson then released his own documentary showing the charms Bashir deployed to clinch the best interview moments.

    The star’s footage of Bashir in off-camera moments showed him lavishing him with praise about his “spectacular” relationship with his children and siding with the star’s irritation with the tabloids, rubbishing their coverage of the star as “disgusting”.

    Bashir described Jackson’s Neverland home as “incredible”, a comment apparently at odds with the sentiments he expressed in his own film.

    In March the Duchess of York claimed Bashir “tricked” Diana, Princess of Wales, into revealing the secrets of her private life when he interviewed her eight years ago.

    “She never would have said all the things she said if it hadn’t been for the way he tricked her,” Sarah Ferguson said on American TV.

    “He lulled her into a comfort zone by being this wonderful magnanimous man and by saying, ‘I’m a family man as well’ and got her to talk that way. And, of course, ‘off the record’ doesn’t exist.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2003/apr/25/broadcasting.uknews?INTCMP=SRCH

  34. May 5, 2011 8:23 pm

    “I don’t believe it’s fair to blame Michael for Bashir’s actions. He completed his obligation with a contractual agreement and hiring individuals who were supposed to make sure everything was professional. If anything, Michael was mismanaged. Many of journalists who are considered professionals, had turned on Michael at that point and wanted nothing to do with him, so of course Bashirs words at the time would have felt pleasant.”

    TatumMarie, of course it isn’t fair to blame Michael for Bashir’s actions. Serious journalists were outraged by the dishonest ways of Martin Bashir – please allow me some quotes from the Spanish forum again:

    THE LYNCHING OF MICHAEL JACKSON
    By Jeff Koopersmith

    Feb. 20, 2003 — NEW YORK (excerpt):
    …On just one night earlier this week, television viewers across the nation were treated to four hours (three on ABC and one on NBC) of contemptible “revelations” concerning Michael Jackson’s troubles with growing up and his increasing age. Last week FOX Television did a “Special” lynching of Jackson which seemed to whet the appetite of a viewing public with a near-insatiable desire to see the powerful crushed, no matter the expense, no matter the lack of substantiated evidence.

    To say these were American networks’ sorriest hours would be an understatement.

    For three hours, ABC — The “American” Broadcasting Network, owned largely and ironically by the Disney Corporation who created the Magic Kingdom upon which Mr. Jackson seems to have modeled his “ranch” — exploited and abused the “King of Pop” so ferociously that one might think it was endeavoring to force the man who won’t grow up toward suicide, much as the editorialists as the Wall Street Journal drove Vince Foster to snuff out his own life on a park bench.

    On NBC, the “General Electric Network,” the Jackson story was likewise presented in as revolting a manner as could be slipped by their increasingly lax “censors”, with that network choosing to go nose to nose with ABC in a sordid contest to see who could capture more avaricious and covetous American viewers while torching a pitiable little man who gave us all such great musical pleasure for most of his life.

    I don’t think I have ever been quite so riveted by a display of insufferable heartlessness.

    Many, from the e-mail these programs have generated, did not watch to learn about Jackson, but sought to gloat and rejoice over what at least appeared to be his psychological instability, the terror of his childhood, his loneliness, and his desolation.

    All three networks featured ghastly interviews with plastic surgeons studying only photographs of Michael Jackson’s face and giving their “expert” opinions on how many surgeries he’d undergone, and how botched they were in a contemptible flaunt of the Hippocratic Oath: “Do no harm.”

    MARTIN BASHIR
    America was treated to hours of Martin Bashir, the British “journalist” who was fortunate enough to “get” Princess Diana to talk about how she cheated on her husband, Prince Charles — himself “a little odd.”

    It seems Mr. Bashir is fond of ingratiating himself with the famous, and more so the super wealthy, so that he can use them and abuse them — and of course, cash in.

    Bashir was at his most repellent pretending to take Mr. Jackson into his confidence, feigning concern for the singer, protecting Jackson’s children from the paparazzi, and then humiliating him repeatedly — for nothing more than money.

    ABC, in cahoots with REAL Video, is offering up video of the Bashir interview — the only catch being that you have to subscribe — again for more money — in order to wallow in the heartbreak that is Jackson’s life.

    Dateline, at NBC.com, featured a ghostly Flash Film of Jackson’s face morphing eerily using six pictures taken over 30 years of the singing star’s life making him appear as a monster to excite its Web surfers.

    After all is said, Mr. Bashir — who seems not to be a journalist at all but merely a pig wallowing in the mud of another’s broken life — and the network executives who participated in this modern Anglo-American lynching should be put in stocks and mocked in Times Square.

    Bill O’Reilly would shout me down if I were across from him on “The Factor.” He would yell “What about the children, Mr. Koopersmith? What about the children?”

    I might answer — “Yes, what about the children?”

    I must add that Barbara Walter’s participation in this dreadfulness was deplorable. I thought at least she had reached a zenith, where she like the others could have just said “No!”

    Sadly, she chose to participate in this high-tech lynching.

    She — and all the other pilers-on — should hang their heads in shame.

    http://mjhideout.com/forum/archive/t-19108.html

    *******************
    Another article from the Spanish forum
    (unfortunately the author is unknown – someone at MSNBC, I presume):

    Feb. 7, 2003 / 11:48 a.m. ET

    I will never again put the words Wacko and Jacko together to refer to Michael Jackson. After seeing “Living With Michael Jackson,” last night on ABC’s 20/20, I won’t be putting the words “journalist” and “Martin Bashir” side by side, either.

    That’s how shabby Bashir’s so-called documentary was. As for his post mortem with ABC, it stunk to high heaven. He belongs in the sleaze league with Howard Stern, Jerry Springer and the rest of the dregs.

    I don’t much care for Jackson’s Peter Pan self-indulgence. But I care even less for ABC’s posturing. And I’m glad Jackson’s lawyers have filed a complaint against Granada Television, which produced the program, though it’s hard to claim an invasion of privacy after volunteering to be interviewed.

    In the end, Bashir’s gross insincerity – the way he baited Jackson, the leering repetition – made the King of Pop look human to me. Jackson let a 12-year-old sleep in his bed while he slept on the floor? So what. He’s built himself a huge playground to replace his lost childhood, a childhood given over to money-making performances? So what.

    The conclusion I draw is not that Jackson needs advice on plastic surgery or therapy for his Peter Pan complex: He needs a personal shopper. Without one, he might outspend his wealth and have to auction off a merry-go-round, or worse. Instead of buying the perfect pair of urns, he buys nearly all the urns in sight. Instead of buying a significant icon for his Neverland ranch, he buys whatever amusement ride catches his fancy. A personal shopper might have tipped him to the historic Ferris Wheel from the great World’s Columbian Exposition of 1893.

    Wouldn’t that be neat, having the world’s first Ferris Wheel in your back yard? I’ve got the perfect personal shopper for him, MSNBC.com’s own Teri Goldberg. I know she tuned in last night because she’d heard the program was to include a multimillion-dollar shopping spree. If that Ferris Wheel is still around somewhere, she’d find it for him. Michael, here’s her e-mail: personalshopper@msnbc.com.”

    http://mjhideout.com/forum/noticias-y-rumores/18339-periodista-de-msnbc-apoya-a-michael.html

  35. May 5, 2011 6:43 pm

    “LeGrand, one of MJ’s attorneys, testified that MJ signed two, one-paragraph documents giving Bashir and Grenada Television the rights to the footage shot at Neverland Ranch, including an interview with MJ, and that he found it “hard to believe”.”

    David, Roger Friedman also says:

    QUOTE “Trudy Green, resigned a few days before the Martin Bashir interview broke on Granada TV. Why? Jackson never mentioned to any of his advisers that Bashir was even interviewing him. Green didn’t find out until she got a call from someone at an American network who told her Granada was offering the rights to the show. Green, according to my sources, called Branca, who was stumped. “By that time there was nothing anyone could do,” my source says.”

    But on the other hand Michael’s signatures were all different on those documents, so couldn’t Bashir just forge them? I think Thomas Mesereau wouldn’t have grilled Bashir over those signatures at a cross-examination if he hadn’t known from Jackson that they were false.

  36. TatumMarie permalink
    May 5, 2011 4:34 am

    @Anana
    I agree

  37. Anana permalink
    May 4, 2011 2:40 am

    Uri Geller spent months urging Michael Jackson to do the Bashir interview, and according to some sources, he was paid at least $200,000 for his efforts. (He denies it.) So his posturing about why didn’t Michael have his lawyers or public relations people check Bashir out is disingenuous at best. Geller set MJ up.

    Some have expressed amazement that MJ didn’t check Bashir out, that he didn’t have representation on the AEG deal. On a probate lawyers’ blog, he was praised for setting up a trust for his children, but criticized for not funding it properly. But all throughout his career, Michael Jackson has kept a raft of lawyers and public relations people on retainer, paying out millions over the years. Evidently they didn’t Google Bashir either. Why didn’t they protect their client? Either just about every person hired by MJ was grossly incompetent, or a lot of them – maybe most – were conspiring against him. I’m inclined to believe the latter.

  38. Tatum permalink
    May 3, 2011 11:14 pm

    @Suzy
    People very close to Michael and the best in the industry have said that Michael was a shrewd business man, but that has nothing to do with trusting the wrong people. I believe based on the words of those who knew him well like Liz Taylor – that he was a musical genius/business man in the industry and naive when it came to the people he associated himself with.

  39. Tatum permalink
    May 3, 2011 11:08 pm

    Michael’s PR team was responsible for the background check. Many celebrities have been mislead on interviews. Oprah, Robyn Robinson, Diane Sawyer, just to name a few (who are considered top-notch professionals) have asked questions that they agreed they wouldn’t ask or manipulated and exploited a celebrity in some way. It happens repeatedly, the only difference is that when it happened to Michael it had detrimental consequences.

    This is my industry, I know what I’m talking about, in order to do anything in the world as a celebrity you have to sign a contract. Uri Gellar is also full of it- he pushed Bashir on Michael like everyone else. My point is that it didn’t matter what footage Michael signed over to Bashir or how long he allowed filming because BY CONTRACT – despite your OPINION, FACTUALLY, Michael had to approve the final product or it the documentary wouldn’t see the light of day. Michael did not trust journalist — while Bashir filmed Michael, he in turn filmed Bashir. That doesn’t sound like he was careless or too gullible to me.

  40. May 3, 2011 5:07 pm

    Hana this was a very good and precise comment & I urge you to post it under articles regarding Bashir on the net

  41. hana permalink
    May 3, 2011 1:30 pm

    Something people need to realize is that Martin Bashir is not a real journalist. He admitted himself that his academic studies were not in journalism. He never went to school and received the proper training and skills of proper journalism like people such as Maury Povich, Geraldo Rivera, and Larry King, which is why all his interviews comes across as biased, unethical, and non-objective. He seems to really enjoy belittling celebrities. I have never seen a report of anyone who did an interview with him that didn’t have something negative to say about him. Michael Jackson called him a betrayer, Diddy called him a racist, Tommy Davis called him offensive, Andrew Beitbart called him a liar, Farooq Yusof called him a blackmailer, and the list goes on. With a reputation like this, there is no way he’s going to last very long. I will give him a good 2 years before his career is finally finished.

  42. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 3, 2011 11:42 am

    So i think he is fabricating the story and is probaly pissed that michael jackson stop calling him hes also Gay!

  43. Truth Prevail permalink
    May 3, 2011 11:40 am

    Hey Guys I Have some information regarding Terry George i have noticed no one gives this guy any air time unless he talks about that so called meeting with michael jackson and i also noticed when mj passed away he made a official Profile in tribute to michael jackson on GoneTooSoon.org Memorial Site

  44. Suzy permalink
    May 3, 2011 8:59 am

    I think Michael was far from being this shrewd businessman who he was portrayed as when he bought the ATV catalogue. That was a smart move, no doubt, but he had advisors like John Branca at the time.

    Michael was an artist, not a businessman and he was far from being shrewed. Instead he was easily mislead and was naive and so people could take advantage of him unfortunately. The Bashir interview was one result of this.

  45. lcpledwards permalink
    May 3, 2011 7:00 am

    @ Shelly and Lynette
    Bashir is at fault for lying to MJ, making false promises, adding negative commentary, not honoring his word, etc. But he wouldn’t have been able to do all of those things if MJ had not agreed to do the documentary in the first place! That’s the root of the entire problem. I understand why he entertained the idea, but in my opinion I think he still should have done his due diligence on Bashir. A simple internet search would have turned up a bunch of articles on Bashir from the 1990s, when he was sanctioned for unfair journalistic practices, and accused of falsifying Diana’s brother’s bank statements. If his legal team had reviewed the contracts, it would have been a lot longer than 2 paragraphs, and there wouldn’t have been any doubts about the authenticity of MJ’s signatures, because they would have made sure that everything was good to go before MJ even looked at it!

    It’s similar to the artists who in recent years performed at private parties for Muammar Ghaddafi. Usher, 50 Cent, Mariah Carey, Nelly Furtado, Beyonce’, and others recently donated to charity the millions of dollars they earned by performing at private parties for members of his family. Mariah Cary issued a statement stating how embarrassed and naive she was, and that as an artist she has to be held accountable, because it’s her responsibility to know who she’s performing for: http://www.showbiz411.com/2011/03/03/mariah-carey-new-song-called-save-the-day-to-be-donated-for-human-rights-issues

    “I was naïve and unaware of who I was booked to perform for. I feel horrible and embarrassed to have participated in this mess. Going forward, this is a lesson for all artists to learn from. We need to be more aware and take more responsibility regardless of who books our shows. Ultimately we as artists are to be held accountable.

    Notice how she didn’t blame her handlers, or her managers, or her publicist; she took the responsibility for her poor judgement. Ultimately, she had the final say-so of where and who she would perform for. Similaryly, MJ gave the final approval to Bashir to do the documentary, and he wasn’t under duress. As he said, he was naive and too trusting, and he learned from that mistake. I’m not trying to beat up on MJ, don’t get me wrong, and Bashir deserves all of the hatred that he gets, but he didn’t put a gun to MJ’s head and forced him to do it. He merely flattered him and showed him what was probably a forged letter by Diana, and MJ fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

  46. stacy2 permalink
    May 2, 2011 8:32 pm

    I don’t believe Michael signed both contracts. I believe Bashir forged his signature on one of the documents. Here’s an interesting quote from his cross examination:

    MESEREAU: Mr. Bashir, you have been accused in England of forging signatures, correct.

    BASHIR: Incorrect.

    MESEREAU: No one has ever made that accusation, sir.

    MR. BOUTROUS: I’m going to object, Your Honor. Hearsay; lack of foundation; beyond the scope of direct examination.

    THE COURT: Sustained on beyond the scope of direct.

    MESEREAU: Mr. Bashir, if you look at the two documents you referred to that you say Mr.
    Jackson signed, his signature appears to be different from document to document, correct.

    MR. BOUTROUS: Same objection, Your Honor. And — same objection on the shield law, Your Honor; and beyond the scope of direct.

    THE COURT: Sustained; beyond the scope.

  47. lynande51 permalink
    May 2, 2011 4:16 pm

    David, Michael was trying to get a jump ahead and try to rebuild the negative image that the press had bestowed on him over the years. IF he was too trusting it was his nature and he had up until that point had people that protected him. Uri Geller and Schmuley Boteach were the ones that recommended Bashir. Michael was eager because his “friends” recommended him and Bashir misrepresented himself from the beginning. Probably one of the most important and endearing qualities of Michael was his complete lack of cynicism. It was this lack of cynicism that made Michael Michael. To say that he should have been more cynical is saying he shouldn’t have been himself so I have to disagree and say that just because someone is warm, trusting, and friendly does not make it right for those that are cynical and self motivated to take advantage of them.

  48. lcpledwards permalink
    May 2, 2011 5:58 am

    @ Lynette
    Yes, I agree that Bashir was responsible for everything that happened AFTER the cameras started rolling. However, in my opinion, MJ was responsible for everything that did NOT happen BEFORE the cameras started rolling!

    In my opinion (and I’m sure the opinion of most people), if background and reference checks had been done on Bashir, MJ would have rejected him from the start, and Bashir wouldn’t have had the opportunity to film him at all.

  49. lcpledwards permalink
    May 2, 2011 5:46 am

    @ TatumMarie

    When I said that it was MJ’s fault, what I meant is that what happened with Bashir didn’t have to happen at all, and it wouldn’t have happened had any due diligence been done on his part. Did he do a background check on Bashir? No. Did he verify the authenticity of that letter that was purportedly from Diana to Bashir? No. Did he get any references from Diana’s family? No. (In fact, in 2003 Princess Fergie bluntly said that Bashir tricked Diana into doing that interview! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-170441/Fergie-Bashir-tricked-Diana.html)

    Let’s say MJ had done a background check on Bashir, or had spoke to Fergie about him. Do you think he would have still agreed to do that documentary? No, of course not! And this isn’t just my opinion, either. Uri Gellar said that the only reason he recommended Bashir to MJ is because he thought MJ would look over the contract with his lawyers. Go back and read David LaGrand’s testimony, where he says he was shocked that MJ signed 2, one-paragraph “contracts”. Would Britney Spears, Madonna, Elton John, Beyonce, Garth Brooks, Prince, or any other A-list artist sign a one-paragraph contract? No, because their legal teams and managers wouldn’t allow it!

    Even Charlie Sheen’s team turned down Bashir! As crazy and bizarre as Sheen is, even he has people who are looking out for his best interests! (I added the link to the bottom of the post.)

    The point I’m trying to make is that even though it was all Bashir’s fault, the responsibility falls on the individual artist (in this case, MJ) to make sure that he doesn’t put himself in a situation where he could get taken advantage of. I’m not blaming MJ for Bashir’s selective editing or negative commentary, but I am blaming him for being so gullible in the first place. And after the trial, both Mesereau and MJ acknowledged that he would be less trusting of people in the future, so that’s a tacit admission of his responsibility in the matter.

    If he wanted someone to do a documentary on him, I would have suggested to him Spike Lee, someone he knows and trusts, or Geraldo Rivera, or Tavis Smiley.

  50. lynande51 permalink
    May 2, 2011 5:26 am

    David, I don’t know if the Declaration by Evvy Tavasci shows that Michael was overly trusting. He was completely mislead by Bashir because he was a slick serpentine liar. Her Declaration is a perfect example of the important facts. Bashir showed his true intentions from the first interview when he refused to give Hamid the tapes. Next he followed Michael around the world and continued to interview him but had never given him the tapes. His deception is furthur demonstrated when he PLEADs with Evvy to allow him to “keep it human”. He then continues to hide and or avoid Michael or anyone that is associated with him. It just shows that he went in there with an agenda and what he did to finish his agenda which was to make Michael look very bad.

  51. TatumMarie permalink
    May 2, 2011 4:54 am

    Michael gave Bashir the footage to create a documentary (that’s usually how documentaries are done) but he and Bashir had an agreement that Bashir would obtain his approval on the finished product before it aired. It doesn’t matter who has editing control at this point there was a contractual agreement. In other words, Michael had the final say. According to Bashir, he did nothing wrong to Michael – so why use his words in reference to a lawsuit? Tom Mesereau even mentioned that Michael had a good lawsuit against the journalist but he chose to move on with his life.

    I don’t believe it’s fair to blame Michael for Bashir’s actions. He completed his obligation with a contractual agreement and hiring individuals who were supposed to make sure everything was professional. If anything, Michael was mismanaged. Many of journalists who are considered professionals, had turned on Michael at that point and wanted nothing to do with him, so of course Bashirs words at the time would have felt pleasant.

  52. lcpledwards permalink
    May 2, 2011 12:30 am

    @ Dialdancer
    David LeGrand, one of MJ’s attorneys, testified that MJ signed two, one-paragraph documents giving Bashir and Grenada Television the rights to the footage shot at Neverland Ranch, including an interview with MJ, and that he found it “hard to believe”. What he meant by that (I assume) is that he couldn’t believe that MJ would be so trusting of Bashir to agree to shoot a documentary (not just a single interview) over a period of 8 months, and not have all of the I’s dotted and T’s crossed, so to speak. The contract was so weak that MJ couldn’t legally stop it from airing once he was unable to track him down, which is what MJ’s legal team would have demanded had they had the chance to review it. (In fact, Bashir himself said in an interview that MJ “didn’t have a leg to stand on” when he tried to sue to stop the airing.) They also would have surely done a background check on Bashir, and checked his refrences (specifically, Diana’s family, and the father of the girl who Bashir deceived in the early 90s).

    Even though Bashir was wrong for ducking MJ in the final weeks prior to the airing of the documentary, he was only able to do it because MJ placed way too much trust in him. It never should have came down to having to “hope” that Bashir would show him the footage; Bashir never should have had it to begin with.

    http://site2.mjeol.com/mj-news/attorney-filmmaker-misrepresented-intentions-to-jackson.html

  53. Dialdancer permalink
    May 1, 2011 3:29 am

    David,

    I do not remember it clearly now, but there is a statement in one of the court documents which shows Michael was suppose to see the final product and have final say. The statement is by Michael’s admin prepared for the civil suit against Bashir and his UK employer which tells how Bashir waited until Michael was busy in Miami to do the deed. The statement tells how MJ’s Admin kept trying to pin down Bashir to send the film to Michael for approval. I believe the statement say that all of them dropped the ball as far as tracking Bashir down for a look at the film for it was released. But Michael did have a very good and emphatic agreement document.

  54. lcpledwards permalink
    April 30, 2011 6:27 pm

    @ Hana
    yes, unfortunately Michael didn’t do any research or due diligence on Bashir before agreeing to let him do the documentary. As you’ve heard about MJ time and time again, he was too trusting, too naive, and too gullible for his own good. If MJ had done a simple Google search on Bashir, he would have known that Bashir had been sanctioned for unethical journalism, and had falsified the bank statements that he used to get Diana to agree to her interview with him. MJ should have verified the authenticity of the letter that Diana allegedly wrote to Bashir to thank him for “restoring her image”, and he should have personally spoke with Diana’s family to gett their opinions on Bashir.

    Even if Bashir had a clean record, MJ should have had his lawyers review that contract line by line and verified that MJ would have sole possession of all of the footage , as well as final editing rights. Had he done this, then Bashir wouldn’t have been able to selectively edit the footage and add his negative commentary to it. Unfortunately, Bashir was able to do exactly what MJ allowed him to do, and this is a lesson to everyone in the entertainment industry to always consult your advisors or legal team before signing any contracts or agreeing to do a project with someone who, for all intents and purposes, is a complete stranger.

  55. hana permalink
    April 30, 2011 5:39 pm

    Uri Geller:

    “I was convinced that Michael would call his lawyers or agents or managers or whoever is advising him, his PR company, and at least let them see the agreement the TV station made him sign, or at least have some sort of power or veto in this agreement. And apparently Michael didn’t do such a thing.”

    I agree with Uri on this. Why didn’t Michael let his lawyers review the contract he signed? This seems quite unusual. I’m willing to bet that Bashir convinced him not too call his lawyers by making all kinds of false promises.

  56. Jan permalink
    April 29, 2011 10:26 pm

    Help!

    Martin Bashir has just appeared on BBC2 UK Prime time TV show Newsnight as if he is a world authority on princess diana. I was mortified, I don’t believe the Princes would be pleased either,
    please email newsnight with any links you can we must stop him now becoming a regular again on TV in the UK:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8071987.stm

    this is a highly respected TV show in the UK.

  57. hana permalink
    April 29, 2011 6:04 pm

    @lynande51

    I agree with you 100%. There is no doubt in my mind that Bashir most likely got his information from people like Maureen Orth, Diane Dimond, Terry George, and VG..He came in there with the preconceived notion that Michael Jackson was a child molester and was most likely guilty of abusing boys, which is why he felt “very uneasy” and “disturbed” with Michael being around other people’s children.

  58. April 29, 2011 5:41 pm

    “you should turn all that info on VG into a blog post!”

    Ateistanaplo, I think I’ll do it, though posting those article in Google rough translations isn’t the best option of course.
    I am currently reading all MJhideout.com articles beginning with 2001 (not to miss anything) and am absolutely fascinated by the wealth of information there.

    And since I am looking into everything now I am in July 2002 and studying MJ-Tommy Mottola business. Very interesting too!

    I suggest all of us read this site – http://mjhideout.com/forum/archive/f-18-p-34.html .
    It is their index with page 41 having the earliest entries. All in all there are more than 9000 entries there.

    To have it translated you need to use the Google browser and press “translate”.

  59. April 29, 2011 4:12 pm

    Helena

    I think you should turn all that info on VG into a blog post!

  60. lynande51 permalink
    April 29, 2011 3:40 pm

    When a journalist goes to do an in depth interview of someone like Michael Jackson they research the background. In the case of Martin Bashir he had a tabloidesque background and so he went to those most like himself to get his information. Martin Bashir is cut from the same cloth as Diane Dimond whose background is is tabloid tv. He did not research Michael other than to rely on the word of people like DD, MO and VG. He went in there and did just what was expected of him by these people. Diane Dimond is not a Michael Jackson expert she is a SELF proclaimed expert at following the worst lead of any century, VG.

  61. April 29, 2011 2:41 pm

    The whole of the MJEOL post on Corey Feldman and Bashir’s interview of him is excellent. Here it is:

    Tempest in a Thimble: Fmr. DA Says Feldman Testimony Worthless – MB#244
    13 FEBRUARY 2005

    Feb 13 2005 — “If I were Tom Sneddon, I would run, not walk, away from this witness,” said former San Diego District Attorney Paul Pfingst on The Abrams Report Feb 11 2005 in response to what the prosecution should do with Corey Feldman, a bitter ex-friend of Michael Jackson’s from the 1980s.

    This stems from the latest speculation frenzy in the media, sparked again, by ABC’s newest “glorified tabloid reporter” and accused blackmailer, Martin Bashir. Pfingst’s blunt comments stemmed from Feldman’s interview.

    The interview, as suspected by some, turned out to be a tempest in a thimble, especially given all of the material that’s already been dug up by Celebrity Justice, and info probably yet to be aired by a number of people about Feldman.

    Bashir’s interview with former child actor and (former?) drug addict was broadcast on ABC’s 20/20. The advertising from the program was steeped in ambiguity and innuendo, as most of Bashir’s “scoops” are.

    It may have also drew the attention of current DA Tom Sneddon, who is by now desperately trying to glue together some semblance of a “case” against Michael Jackson.

    Feldman and Jackson, along with a number of girls and boys, spent time around each other in the 1980’s. Either taken for a ride by Bashir or falling back into some ambiguous fog, Feldman has made some incredibly questionable allegations around this non-“case”. And like the media always do, they have ran off a cliff with their speculation.

    What is known is that the seemingly scorned Feldman claimed he went to Jackson’s apartment in the 80’s before going to Disneyland, he saw a health book with photos of venereal diseases in it, and asked Jackson about it. The following is from an ABC News article put out before the interview aired:

    Feldman says he had such an encounter at Jackson’s home when he says they stopped there on the way to Disneyland. “We went to his apartment, and I noticed a book that he had out on his coffee table. The book contained pictures of grown men and women naked. And the book was focused on venereal diseases and the genitalia.” Feldman said the singer sat down with him and explained the photos to him. (see Corey Feldman Speaks Out Against Jackson (Feb 10 2005))

    In other words, it was a health book, not pornography. Since when does a health book qualify as “porn”? Why, since it belonged to Jackson, apparently. This wasn’t a book that Jackson put in front of his face for no reason. Nor was this a situation initiated by Jackson.

    Instead of snatching the book from the wild teenager, Jackson more than likely sat him down and told him about some of the negative ramifications of the fast lifestyle which Feldman would, inevitably, come to live. That is…..IF Feldman is even telling the truth about that.

    ABC, with the help of proven liar Bashir allowed other media outlets to wildly speculate about what Feldman had to say before the airing of this non-news. And these other outlets filled in the blanks themselves; complete with a ‘Jackson shows Feldman porn’ headline.

    Thus far, the only actual “porn” link between Jackson and Feldman is that health book.

    —————
    Feldman continues to say, even in this ABC interview, that absolutely nothing ever happened between him and Jackson.

    He has said it repeatedly, and of his own volition even after he and Jackson had a falling out around the 9/11 tragedy. He, as an adult in 1993, also repeatedly defended Jackson. Celebrity Justice (CJ) got their hands on over an hour long interrogation of Feldman done in December 1993 about allegations against Jackson.

    During that 1993 investigation, Feldman repeatedly says nothing sexual or inappropriate ever happened between him and Jackson. Where was that health book story then? Slipped his mind? Please.

    A CJ report dated February 9 2005 discusses Feldman’s interview, at age 22, with the sheriff’s department:

    “CJ” has obtained an audio interview between actor Corey Feldman and Santa Barbara sheriffs. Recorded in December 1993, the interview includes Corey stating — not once but numerous times — that his friend Michael Jackson, whom he hung out with, didn’t do anything improper with him.

    As a matter of fact, it wasn’t just a generic blanket denial. It was very specific. At one point, Feldman seemed to be attempting to help the police as much as possible by trying to remember if there had ever been anything inappropriate that went on between him and Jackson.

    Continued from the CJ article:

    “Nothing ever happened with Michael and me,” Corey is heard saying. “Believe me, if there was something that I’d been hiding for all these years, then I would want nothing more than to bring it out right now, to make sure that Michael got the help that he needed.”

    At one point, the one-track-mind cops tell Feldman “What concerns me about it is, if something did happen that you’re not telling us, is that you wouldn’t because of that.” To which Feldman bluntly replied:

    “I can’t put myself in the position of thinking ‘Would I or wouldn’t I’, because nothing happened!”

    What also seems to come out of the conversation with Feldman is, if the CJ report is accurate, he never slept over in the same room with Jackson at Neverland.

    According to the report, Feldman told the cops in 1993 that he’s only ever slept in the same room with Jackson twice. No word yet if anyone else was present in the room with them. Once happened when Feldman slept over at Jackson’s parents Encino home and the other at Disneyland. Jackson never slept in the same bed with Feldman, by Feldman’s own admission.

    The current accuser also says that he’s never slept in the same bed with Jackson on the Bashir mockumentary which aired Feb 2003. According to the CJ article:

    Corey again insists, “He never did anything out of line. I mean, the closest he ever came to touching me was maybe slapping me on the leg once to talk about that I had lost weight.”
    (see Corey Feldman Defended Jackson in 1993 Police Interview – CJ)

    —————
    Incredibly enough, Feldman does claim he was molested by someone other than Jackson. He reports the person’s name and occupation to the police who were grilling him about Jackson, and they didn’t seem the least bit interested in it, reports Jane Valez-Mitchell.

    Valez-Mitchell appeared on Crier Live Feb 10 2003 to discuss the report. Of Feldman’s admission to the cops about a REAL molester, she says:

    Jane Valez-Mitchell:… What’s really amazing at one point he goes, ‘you know, i know what it is like to be molested. I was molested’. He names this person that he accuses of molesting him and even says what his occupation is. These detectives show very little interest in pursuing that angle and bring it right back to Michael Jackson. ‘Well, did you talk to Michael Jackson about that’? Pretty amazing stuff.
    (see Crier Live: Feldman 1993 tapes + Valez-Mitchell (Feb 10 2005))

    Also during that show, the prosecution’s favorite tabloid reporter – who may be up to her eyeballs in the speculation around Jackson – figuratively cut Feldman off at the knees Feb 10, only later to come back with wishful thinking on Feb 11. But here is what the prosecution reporter said Feb 10 2005 on Crier Live:

    DIMOND: Absolutely. And herein lies the problem with Corey Feldman. God bless him if he was molested by anybody, of course, but he’s told so many different stories.

    He’s had so many problems with drugs and alcohol over the years. In 1993 he saying nothing ever happened. In 2003, as you had on last night Catherine, he told Larry king nothing ever happened.

    Now all of a sudden he’s on ABC with Martin Bashir tomorrow night, we’re all waiting with bated breath, saying he has come to a ‘sickening realization’.

    Here is my bottom line on this. Corey Feldman was a child star. His career has really sort of gone nowhere as an adult. Maybe this was a jump-start to something. I don’t know. But as a witness in this current case, I think he’s just rendered himself useless to everybody. He’s not good for the state or the defense but he’s on the state’s witness list.
    (see Crier Live: Feldman 1993 tapes + Valez-Mitchell (Feb 10 2005))

    ————

    Some observers have commented that during the ABC interview, Feldman seemed more like a scorned woman. A great number of people, including many prosecution-sympathizers, don’t seem to want to touch Feldman with a 1000 ft. pole.

    Former San Diego District Attorney Paul Pfingst appeared on The Abrams Report Feb 11 2005 to talk about what, if anything, Feldman would have to offer to this current “case”. Pfingst wasn’t impressed, at all, with what Feldman was claiming. He told Abrams:

    Paul Pfingst, Former San Diego District Attorney: If I were Tom Sneddon I would run, not walk, away from this witness because the opportunity for the defense to cross-examine him and to make him look silly and therefore diminish the rest of the prosecution’s case, is just so great — I’m gonna be surprised, I’m gonna be shocked if the prosecutors put him on the stand.

    He has been on television so many times saying so many good things about Michael Jackson that any jury is likely to think that is he trying to revive his acting career and get the attention he wasn’t getting before. And so I think he’s a worthless witness.

    Even Abrams admitted he would be shocked if prosecutors felt the need to call Feldman. At one point, Abrams plays a clip of Feldman’s interview from 20/20 as provided by ABC before its airing. In one of the clips, Feldman whines about it being a “toll” to defend Jackson. Pfingst seems to have very little patience with this type of testimony.

    He tells Abrams on that Feb 11 2005 show:

    PFINGST: You know if he gets up on the stand and says something like he just said, ‘You don’t understand the toll of defending Michael Jackson’, he’s gonna look like a fool.

    Because the fact of the matter is that most people think hanging out with superstars is not a toll, and you could have walked away any time you wanted to.

    One of the dangers that sometimes could happen with prosecutors is you try to put little pieces together and make a big piece. But one of the things you have to worry about is that if one of your little pieces blows up, it blows up some of your bigger pieces with it.

    So I can’t foresee any circumstances where a prosecutor could be so desperate as to try to put someone on the stand and allow the defense a field day in cross-examination. Dan, I just can’t see it.

    —————

    As for the health book with venereal diseases spotted and asked about by Feldman, Abrams literally says “So what.” Defense attorney Ron Richards offers up an explanation that seems to be the general consensus about Corey ‘witness-come-lately’ Feldman. He says Feldman hasn’t really had any type of career lately and that could be a powerful motive to suddenly use this current situation to his advantage.

    The following is an exchange between Abrams, Richards and Pfingst:

    Richards: Yeah, I mean – look all children grow up. And the fact is that Corey Feldman hasn’t really had anything that’s newsworthy in a very long time. And it’s a very powerful motive for someone to get free publicity on 20/20 tonight in primetime. This is more..…

    Abrams: This isn’t gonna help his career though, Ron. The bottom line is this is not going to help his career. Coming out in publicly and talking about Michael Jackson, i can’t imagine is going to lead Hollywood to suddenly say, oh, that’s the guy i want starring in my next movie.

    Richards: Well it’s creating a buzz.

    Pfingst: Well, he may think so, Dan.

    Abrams: What, Paul?

    Pfingst: He may think so.

    Richards: Dan, in Hollywood you sell the sizzle, not the steak. Just remember that.

    Abrams: Yeah.

    Richards: This is the land where people self-promote. And we’re not in the first period here. Corey Feldman is in the fourth period with two minutes to go in the game, there’s nothing wrong with him throwing a “hail mary” and juxtaposing himself in the middle of the trial now.

    Pfingst: Kato Kaeland (sp?) did a good job, Dan. (laughter) He stayed alive for a while.

    Abrams: Yeah.

    Richards: I’ve never agreed so much with a prosecutor in one show in my whole life. I just want say I agree with everything my colleague is saying today.

    What Pfingst and many others were pointing out is all of the previous interviews and comments Feldman has made, repeatedly saying absolutely nothing sexual or inappropriate ever happened between he and Jackson. Interviews like the 1993 police interrogation discussed previously and a November 2003 interview with Larry King.

    ————–

    Feldman defended Jackson even as an ex-friend. November 21 2003, he does an interview with Larry King where he again repeatedly denies anything sexual or inappropriate happened between him and Jackson at any time. This was two years after the falling-out with Jackson around 9/11.

    He even goes on to elaborate about what kind of person Jackson is. He tells King that it was he, not Jackson, who initially pursued a friendship. He says he told Jackson “if I give you my phone number, would you call me, and he said sure.” Check out this exchange between King and Feldman during that show:

    KING: What was his behavior around other kids when you were around him?

    FELDMAN: You know what? Everything that I have seen, I have to be completely honest, because I couldn’t do it any other way. Everything I have ever seen about him has been kind hearted to children. I’ve never seen him act in any way inappropriate way to a child.

    KING: And he was never inappropriate with you?

    FELDMAN: Never with me. Never with me.

    KING: So, then why not be fully committed to him now as you were ten years ago?

    FELDMAN: As I said, we had our personal differences.

    KING: It didn’t have anything to do with this?

    FELDMAN: It had nothing to do with this. We had a situation, which I can’t really talk about, but it was around the time of his 30th Anniversary special and we had a falling out as friends sometimes do. And we’’ve had our differences.
    (see Corey Feldman Says Nothing Inappropriate happened – Larry King (11-21-03))

    So you have Feldman who’s no longer close to Jackson, after the 2003 ransacking of Neverland, telling King nothing inappropriate ever happened. Period.

    ——————

    Now, all of a sudden, Feb 2005, he suddenly remembers…… what? Not much of anything relating to actual misconduct. And the rest is wrapped in speculative ambiguity furthered by he and Bashir. It really was a ludicrous Bashir interview filled with disturbing innuendo and the self-promotion of Feldman, who apparently has dreams of becoming a rock star.Red flag #1.

    He sets himself up as some type of ‘voice for the voiceless’ martyr. Red flag #2.

    He really had nothing of import to say at all about anything directly related to this “case” and relied on a chorus of could have/may have/might have to shore up his unimportant observations. Red flag #3

    Let’s see if those who complained about Rivera’s Jackson interview also complain about Bashir’’s interview. Talk about leading and softball questions! And, unlike the Rivera interview, Bashir didn’t have his hands tied by the Court and “a bunch of whiny prosecutors”, noted one observer. And who knows if Feldman’s newly recalled events are even true?

    Feldman has a long history of drug use. Maybe someone should have made him pee in a cup before doing that Bashir interview. But I digress.

    Back to Feldman’s King interview: he not only defended his non-friend Jackson, but offered up comments about him which doesn’t sound at all like someone with “sickening realizations”. Oddly enough –and we don’t know if Feldman was being facetious or not – he actually says he was obsessed with Jackson at some point.

    That may be evidenced in photographs of Feldman dressing like Jackson and wearing his hair like Jackson out in public. Check out this exchange between King and Feldman:

    KING: …In “Dream a Little Dream” you played a high school rebel that’s obsessed with Michael, right?

    FELDMAN: I don’t know if it was part of the character description, but I was obsessed with Michael and that bled into the character.

    He even says that at his lowest point — when he was heavily using drugs and thought Jackson would drop him like a hot potato – Jackson continued to support him, be there for him and give him advice. From the Nov 21 2003 show:

    KING: We know you had your own problems, you had drug problems. What was Michael like during that period of your life?

    FELDMAN: Well, you know Larry, that’s interesting and a good question because at that point in my life and especially Michael’s life and career, he was kind of very sugar-coated at that time and very kind of prim and proper.

    Everyone thought of him as the perfect ideal of the American citizen. And for me, it was kind of like Michael’s probably not going to stick around, probably not going to be my friend anymore and it was a big shock he was very supportive and came out and called me and asked if there was anything he could do, if there was anything that I needed and gave me profound advice, which was to take the pain of the torment and the turmoil I was enduring and to kind of refocus that into my acting and to use it. And it was profound advice and I’ve used it.

    Again, this is more than just a blanket denial. He’’s actually talking about Jackson’’s character from the standpoint of someone who is no longer close to Jackson and isn’t there to be his cheerleader. It continues:

    KING: Do you say there were areas he was wise?

    FELDMAN: He was very wise. Very, very intelligent man.

    King asked him then if he missed his friendship with Jackson. He says:

    KING: I got you. Do you miss his friendship?

    FELDMAN: Yes and no. You know, it’s like any lost friend. There’s an emotional attachment, obviously. I miss that part. I miss the fun we had together. I hope that this is an eye opening experience for him, because I was always a good friend and true friend and I hope he looks at the people around him.

    What Michael Jackson needs more than anything, is to look around at who he’s got around him and say, who can I trust?
    “Look around at who he’s got around him and say, ‘who can I trust’?” Apparently, Feldman wasn’t one of them. And through his latest actions, he’s proven that Jackson’s decision to cast him aside was a wise one. It appears incredibly late for him now to try to assert, through Bashir’s incredibly leading questions, that anything remotely inappropriate happened.

    —————–

    Those who saw the interview say the accused blackmailer asked Feldman leading, prosecution-type questions like “He showed you pornography. He showed you images of genitalia with sexual diseases. What was he doing? Was he grooming you?” Grooming? Where the hell did that concept come from?

    From the prosecution. He seemed desperate for Feldman to incriminate Jackson in some way. Ridiculous. Those questions were specifically designed to tie Feldman’s magically recollected memories into this current “case”. That’s not an accident or an innocent set of circumstances, but rather appears to be designed for a specific, malicious purpose.

    One sticking point was Feldman’s dramatic claims that Jackson was “delusional” about Feldman writing a book on him. Through research, Feldman’s critique may not hold water because he has been quoted, correctly or incorrectly – and I’ve heard the story as well – as saying that he would write a book about Jackson when his parents die.

    Consequently, the only person “delusional” here may be Feldman, because the story was widely reported. Now, if he wants to question the accuracy of the story, that’s one thing. But to call Jackson delusional when it was Jackson’s own family who helped him get out of New York seems bizarre.

    Did he not say this or has he forgotten he threw a temper tantrum and made that threat? His problems seem to be stuck around the 9/11 tragedy…even though he wasn’t “left to die” anywhere. He whines about not being allowed in a limo with Jackson during that time. Maybe he needs to get some psychological help to get over that issue? But what could be more insidious is the fact that he’s not telling the public the full story around that situation.

    The fact is that according to Jackie Jackson’s wife, Victoria, Feldman took a ride with the Jacksons… (see the previous comment for the full text of it)

    Interesting and possibly prophetic words from Victoria about Feldman going to “any length”. Could that be what he’s doing now? Could this be some asinine way of forcing Jackson to pay attention to him?

    ——————

    Bashir plans to do yet another defamatory Jackson “special”, reportedly using footage from the ill-named “Living with Michael Jackson” bash-fest featuring the current accuser. We’ll see if the current judge is as strict on Bashir’s jury pool tainting as he’s been with allowing Jackson access to tell his side of the story.

    What could these types of programs mean for ABC and what kind of legal trouble could they be in when Jackson gets to present exonerating evidence in court? It seems as if ABC has crossed the line from simply reporting about a story, to maliciously going after Jackson. This is a view shared by many an observer, even some prosecution supporters.

    Bashir is far from a neutral reporter. Jackson publicly humiliated him and ruined his already highly damaged reputation by revealing hours worth of behind-the-scenes footage; footage of Bashir speaking in glowing terms about Jackson to his face, only later to be caught up in his own lies.

    He is also being made to testify in the current “case” and will be subject to what is sure to be an incredibly scathing cross-examination where Bashir’s contradictory statements will be an issue. What he doesn’t seem to understand is that it is his own fault. And what appears to be an insidious desire to “get” Jackson could be manifesting itself though future ridiculous, defamatory “specials”.

    ——————-

    This Feldman “interview” may have backfired, even with those who are on the prosecution’s side of the argument, as evidenced by public statements made at ABC News’s 20/20 message board. The comments, thus far, show that people on all sides of this issue are less than welcoming of Feldman’s comments. Pro-prosecution comments include this one from “ChasersMa”:

    ChaserMa: “…But I really think Corey Feldman is just looking for some attention with this interview. He is an actor and he seems to me to be acting throughout this entire interview…Just seemed too scripted and melodramatic for me to take it sincerely. http://forums.go.com/abcnews/thread?threadID=124403

    Others who haven’t overtly made their opinions about the Jackson “case” known say:
    bine73: this is a desperate attempt by a has-been child star to grasp another chance at his “15 minutes.” corey Feldman should be ashamed of himself. http://forums.go.com/abcnews/thread?threadID=124407

    Bahamasgyal: I was not impressed by the interview. He says he was NOT molested and he has issues with Michael Jackson Discussing, sexually transmitted diseases with him. As a parent of a young boy myself I would be Happy that someone took the time to inform my son of the dangers out there when it comes to illicit and unprotected sex. Are you guys on a mission to discredit Michael Jackson?? As far as I am concerned Corey said nothing of consequence. If anything he has helped the case. Yes he looked at magazines with Michael Jackson but he unequivocally states that Mr. Jackson NEVER touched him inappropriately. I think this is all absurd… http://forums.go.com/abcnews/thread?threadID=124416

    tinbed564 Re: I was not impressed by the interview either. Mostly because Martin Bashir is not credible as a journalist. I think the way the first interview was conducted was very disingenuous…The interviews that he has done since then either has a tabloid-like air to it, makes my skin crawl. Sometimes I can’t believe that ABC has to stoop that low for ratings and ABC has been one of my favorite stations. http://forums.go.com/abcnews/thread?threadID=124416

    That seemed to be a reoccurring theme from those observers who have expressed their opinions thus far on the Feldman interview.
    ….However people feel about Jackson’s innocence, it’s quite clear that a large number of people simply don’t agree with Feldman’s methods. They are suspicious of his motives, his timing, his overly hyped and highly questionable story, and his decision to talk to Bashir (of all people).

    Needless to say, observers of this “case” who happen to be Jackson fans have very little sympathy for Feldman and caution that he might have just injected himself into a situation that he may not be able to deal with. Feldman will learn very quickly that this isn’t a reality TV show he’s just signed up for. This isn’t a Hollywood role in a B-movie.

    He won’t be able to sit behind the shield of the media and level allegations of any kind without being challenged. Does Feldman have anything at all to add to this discussion other than allowing the defense to, once again, impeach yet another prosecution witness with his own words?

    The vast majority of pro-prosecution, neutral and pro-defense observers who have expressed their opinion both to MJEOL and other public message boards, say “no” to that question. Too bad for Feldman….and certain media who are attempting to CREATE the story instead of just reporting it.

    Full text: http://site2.mjeol.com/mjeol-bullet/tempest-in-a-thimble-fmr.-da-says-feldman-testimony-worthless-mb-244.html

  62. April 29, 2011 1:48 pm

    “From what I read about the reason for the rift between Feldman and Jackson in 2001 had to do with the fact that 9/11 happened and Jackson was trying to get his family out of New York City and Feldman wanted to go with them and he wasn’t Jackson’s first concern. Feldman felt like Jackson didn’t care if Feldman was killed or something to that overly dramatic effect. However, Jackson secured a bus for his entire family and they left NYC with Feldman complaining the entire trip about it.”

    Julie, here is a confirmation of the above from the MJEOL site:

    “The fact is that according to Jackie Jackson’s wife, Victoria, Feldman took a ride with the Jacksons on their family’’s private bus out of New York around that time. Remember, the U.S. suspended all air travel. In a story reportedly aired June 6 2002 on Access Hollywood, Victoria tells what she says really happened between the Jacksons and Feldman. She says that, no,

    Jackson never abandoned Feldman in New York on Sept 11. She also says it was Feldman who made a nuisance of himself and upset Jackson’s then 71 year old mother, Katherine Jackson. From the report:

    Michael Jackson’s sister-in-law Victoria (wife of Jackie) has spoken out against former child actor Corey Feldman’s claims that Michael abandoned him in New York on September 11th.

    She claims Feldman invited himself onto the bus due to take the extended Jackson family out of New York. She said Feldman was making a nuisance of himself on the bus, and upsetting 71-year-old Katherine Jackson.

    Feldman wasn’t “left to die” in New York after 9/11. And it was Jackson’s family who helped him. Feldman later claimed Jackson said ‘if Corey’s on this bus, it doesn’t leave New York!’. Well apparently that was a crock too. So what the hell is he talking about? Jackie’s wife Victoria would have liked to know the answer to that question as well.

    From the Access Hollywood article:

    “So I guess we are still in New York,” commented Victoria, who went on to claim Feldman took a ride on the Jackson bus and was dropped off in Memphis.

    “He was thanking everyone so much for letting him go with us,” she said.

    “That’s another thing that threw me, he was so grateful, thanking everybody, and then he said that he was stuck in New York.”

    Feldman seems to be telling the opposite story in comparison to his real behavior during that time. Fat chance of getting Bashir to delve into this contradiction—only one among many – to any extent.

    What does Victoria think of Feldman’s whining? She says he’s “a little delusional” and that he acted like he was entitled to special treatment. More from her Access Hollywood interview:

    “Feldman is in my opinion, a little delusional because he thinks he’s supposed to get special treatment and have cars waiting to take him places. He was a child star, and he’s no longer a star, a child or any kind of star, and I think he’s dying to be in the place he once was, and he will go to any length to get there.”

    (see Victoria Jackson says Feldman made nuisance of himself – Access Hollywood)

    http://site2.mjeol.com/mjeol-bullet/tempest-in-a-thimble-fmr.-da-says-feldman-testimony-worthless-mb-244.html

    The Spanish paper also confirms it (sorry for the Google translation of it):

    Victoria Jackson jumps to Michael’s defense

    Former child star Corey Feldman fired the first shot Against Michael Jackson, accusing the ‘King of Pop’ of denying him historical freedom after September 11.

    “He denied me the opportunity of freedom, which was essentially, you know, revoking my privilege to live at that point,” Feldman told Access.

    Well the Jackson family saw Corey what had to say and now they are coming to Michael’s defense. Jackie Jackson’s wife Victoria Jackson contacted Access Hollywood to address Corey’s accusations.

    “When i heard him say that he was stuck in New York, I just could not believe it because I came back with the Jackson family,” said Victoria.

    Victoria flatly denies that Michael, or any member of the Jackson family, left Corey Feldman behind in the mass exodus out of New York on September 11. “He was a pain on the bus. He was just, in my opinion, a real pain the whole time.”

    Victoria Claims that Corey was dropped off in Memphis and was very grateful for the ride. “He was thanking everyone so much like, ‘Thanks for letting me go with you.” That’s another thing that threw me he was so grateful and thanking everybody and sat there and then he said that he was stuck in New York with no freedom or whatever. ”

    http://mjhideout.com/forum/noticias-y-rumores/9407-mujer-de-jackie-victoria-jackson-habla-contra-corey-feldman.html

  63. AnnieDomino permalink
    April 29, 2011 12:46 pm

    WHY is Martin Bashir still working as a Journalist. WHY!! In reading this the striking fact is that Bashir interviews the same old list of scum. Dimond, Orth, Ray Chandler, etc…I guess the haters have a very limited set of “sources” to draw from. We on the other hand could make a doccie that would have to be a weekly series! As a supporter of Michael the thing that frustrates me the most is that this rubbish gets aired and the usual myths get perpetuated. My dream is that the fan community finds a way to pool our resources and fund our own documentary! And that we start standing together – united in numbers – to challenge these people hard. If I lived in the same city as Bashir I would picket him daily! It must be possible.

  64. Susanne permalink*
    April 29, 2011 12:05 pm

    David, this is again a great analysis. I am not through with it yet, and it’s hard to read all these hints and and the style Bashir uses to manipulate the viewers, but I already want to thank you for taking this piece apart. If we only could bring it to the whole world somehow. You and the other ad-mins here have such a huge knowledge and loads of material now about all the facts and the backgrounds, that I think you should write a book or make yourself a documentary. I know that’s difficult without connections and money and fame, and in the end people cannot make a difference between the lies and the truth with so many books out there, but I wished we could make all of these findings available for ordinary people out there who don’t read blogs. I try to spread it as good as I can.
    P.S. I hope nobody of you is affected by the terrible tornadoes in Alabama and other US states.

  65. April 29, 2011 9:53 am

    VG should start receiving his medication ASAP

  66. April 29, 2011 9:33 am

    Guys, here is a summary of what I’ve found about Gutierrez working for Bashir. Much of it comes from Spanish newspapers and required a Google translation.

    Firstly, we have a quote from the May 2006 issue of GQ (found by Lynande) which says that Gutierrez was engaged to work on Bashir’s TV interview of Michael Jackson in 2003:

    “Since that case, Gutierrez has mainly returned to investigative journalism in Chile. His most significant foray back into Jackson’s world came when he was engaged to work on Martin Bashir’s TV interview in 2003″.

    However the Spanish newspaper http://www2.eluniversal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=60374&tabla=espectaculos says Gutierrez was contacted by ABC in December 2004 to work with Bashir on sequels to his documentary – “to advise him and do research for him” (though it does not rule out the possibility of Gutierrez being Bashir’s source of information for the 2003 interview too):

    “In 2004, the Chilean journalist went to work in the U.S. NBC network in reporting on the Jackson case. But in December of that year, another TV network, ABC, contacted him to advise the journalist who did his research that Jackson came to court: Martin Bashir.
    Gutierrez, who uncovered the case here, “White Fang” on the articulation of the Joint Chiefs in 2002 as a producer since official adviser to Bashir. In the ABC offices in New York explained that the Chilean working with exclusive contract to the English journalist and one of his four collaborators.
    The Chilean will also work with the famous ABC News program 20/20 and remains in the Jackson case, a scandal that he discovered more than 10 years.
    Martin Bashir is one more witness in the Michael Jackson case. Victor Gutierrez is his research adviser. Bashir and his team have already made two reports, one of them was the interview with actor Corey Feldman, who said Jackson had shown him a book of nudes. Feldman also be called to testify”.

    Unfortunately when it comes to Victor Gutierrez everything he says should be divided by a hundred and even then we cannot be sure that the result will be minimally close to the truth. Judging by the rest of the article – where now he brags that he was on a FBI mission in addition to his previous versions that he was a newspaper reporter and an undercover agent of the LAPD who attended a NAMBLA conference – this article is so full of his usual hallucinations that it is impossible to believe anything of what he is saying. Gutierrez loves bragging and telling us dirty fairy-tales…

    However other Spanish sources also mention that Gutierrez worked for ABC. On April 12, 2005 he went on TV to spread more of his lies about Jackson. The Google translation of his interview is almost incomprehensible but we can still grasp the main idea. Besides the confirmation that Gutierrez did work with Bashir and joined ABC we again hear that Gutierrez attended a NAMBLA conference:

    April 12 2005, 19:07
    Alberto Brieba L

    “I think Jackson wants to kill himself and is running out of options to defend himself”.

    With that revelation, Victor Gutierrez began chattering of how he lived the lawsuit against the pop star’s child molestation, who now works for ABC gringa chain, also used to reaffirm your saying that “Jackson is not the father of her children.” He explained at length why: “It is impossible for children to have erupted blond and blue eyes. In addition, he offered a million dollars to the mother to keep quiet, but as they get paid, they began to argue.”

    – Are there more cases of abuse against Jackson?

    – Sure, there are about 30 children, increasingly showing up. Many I have interviewed and say they do not want to become known because they are afraid to be treated badly in the street and their friends called them gay.

    – How did you come to investigate an idol as Jackson?

    – I heard the figure of a pedophile organization that meets once a year. I made a report of them, called NAMBLA and belongs to the North American Man / Boy Love Association, which came out that Jackson was a pedophile. I started to check the data, wrote the book, but nobody believed me. Went hungry and everyone thought I was crazy.

    – How do you think Jackson is today?

    – Know that most TV hits that come against him, I did. Is clear that I have also worked with Martin Bashir, who made a documentary on him and I’m not going to get tired of swelling balls.

    http://foros.fotech.cl/index.php?showtopic=30207

    Why is the link between Gutierrez and Bashir so important?

    There is a lot to say about it of course, however the main reason is that Victor Gutierrez is a pathological liar who is capable of telling horrendous lies without batting an eyelid. And if he helped Bashir to ‘do research’ for all those documentaries this fact alone places their ‘joint work’ among the dirty tabloid lies which are not even worthy of mentioning.

    The Spanish sources also quote Corey Feldman speaking to Bashir on the 20/20 program (for which Gutierrez was supposed to be working). Though the translation from Spanish is very bad we can still get the idea that if Michael did show that book to Corey its focus was on venereal diseases and the idea was to warn the boy about the possible consequences of sex:

    On Friday ABC broadcast a much-Bashir by Publicis television interview with the Former child actor Corey Feldman, Who Talked about visiting Jackson’s home When I Was a young teenager and seeing pictures of naked men and Women. Feldman, who, like the interviewer, has-been by Prosecutors subpoena to Testify Against Jackson, Bashir Told on the ABC news 20/20 Programme That I Went to the singer’s home When He Was 13 or 14 and saw a book on the coffee table with pictures of naked men and Women.

    “We went to his apartment, and I noticed a book that he had out on his coffee table. The book contained pictures of grown men and women naked. And the book was focused on venereal diseases and the genitalia.” Feldman said the singer sat down with him and explained the photos to him..

    He stopped short of accusing Jackson of Molesting him, saying: “I’ve never Harmer Harmer me and I never Any Children in front of me.”Bashir Told That I have defended Jackson in an interview with the police Investigating Another molestation allegations Involved That boy in 1993. “I did What I Believe Was Right as a friend,” Said Feldman. “I Defend him up and down. I Said, ‘No, he’s not gay. No, he’s not a weirdo.'”

    While reading those Spanish papers I learned a lot of sensational news and hope to make a separate post about it. Here are the snippets of only some (all of them translated from Spanish by Google):

    Maureen Orth used Victor Gutierrez as her main source for writing her Vanity Fair articles:

    “Since yesterday across the United States circulated a new edition of the famous magazine “Vanity Fair”, which devotes six pages to the alleged pedophile Michael Jackson. The main source of this research is none other than the Chilean journalist Victor Gutierrez, author of “Michael Jackson was my lover, the secret diary of John Chandler.”

    Gutierrez did indeed brag about owning Neverland one day. He spoke about it in late March, however information about it was published on April 1, 2003, so later on he could always say that it was a joke:

    1.04.2003
    Published today in the Editorial of the Week BlackFedora.Net

    “Gutierrez said a few days ago on Chilean TV that someday he would be the owner of Neverland and he would have these huge limousines. What does it matter whether his porn videos, books rugged and paranoia were real or not? they have already achieved their objective, and be rich. I would leave him the millions by the ears, dress suits and would not wake up next to his big bed. At that day, who would care that the source of his greatness was a mission honorable to mankind … or the most pathetic campaign of harassment and demolition against a celebrity launch ever in the history of tabloid journalism? “

    Victor Gutierrez did indeed speak of his sexual orientation, in the form of a joke again:

    March 31, 2003 Victor Gutierrez joked “I’M NOT GAY, MY PARTNER IS GAY” (By Andre Jouffe)
    “What is expressed by a talented journalist who ended up folding the hand of Michael Jackson shows how the homosexual question almost always culminates in a joke or sarcasm when confronted directly”.

    Fellow journalists of Victor Gutierrez and politicians believe that there are elements of conspiracy in similar pedophile accusations Gutierrez made against some members of Parliament (and possibly Jackson too? If Gutierrez he is capable of slandering politicians he is capable of doing the same to Michael):

    MAS:

    This reporter (not specified as such) only had references related to the world of entertainment, especially with allegations, never proven, domestic and foreign characters. As stated by former press attache in Paris and former editor of Stuff magazine, André Jouffe,”Gutierrez had a reputation for great copuchento, leaving aside the investigative journalism”

    http://www.udi.cl/udi_doc/3.htm

    http://www.lacuarta.cl/diario/2003/1…LONGUEIRA.html

    MAS Y MAS:

    Senators James and Evelyn Matthei Orpis confirm that the journalist Victor Gutierrez led the children to accuse MPs of the UDI. Accused also TVN as an accomplice. Both parliamentarians agree that there are elements which suggest that there would be a conspiracy.

    “Here was induced minors to acknowledge in a despicable crime completely innocent people to cause a political effect,” said Senator sharp UDI by Jaime Orpis in front of the rumors that have at least two MPs in that community involved in the case Spiniak.

    “Here’s something seedy and dark,” confirms Orpis, “it was clear that children were induced. The important thing now is to know how they were induced, are clearly not spontaneous statements of the children but that these were taken, were taken by journalist Victor Gutierrez.”

    For his part, Senator Evelyn Matthei UDI said: “It is a curious fact that these children come to Channel 7, and I think that national television is very involved in this issue. This must be clear, because when Deputy Girardi takes the child to state courts two weeks ago, how the child comes to Channel 7 and is received by senior officials from the television station. ”

    Evelyn Matthei added that “everything written by Victor Gutierrez is invented, that’s what I believe”.

    This in: http://www.elperiodista.cl/newtenber…ter-50459.html

  67. April 29, 2011 9:33 am

    “Q: Did he talked to you or to the kids about us, his fans? did he know how much we love him?”

    I asked him that question. There is a misconeption here. The guy who killed Lennon was not his fan. By the way, regarding all of these attacks to celebrities, we are talking about mentally ill people who have included the celebrity into their delusion. And in all cases, it came out that they have stopped receiving their medication / or were never treated.

  68. shelly permalink
    April 29, 2011 2:06 am

    Thanks Lynande.

  69. lynande51 permalink
    April 29, 2011 1:09 am

    @ Shelley; the Criminal Minute Order for 3/11/2005 says that it was denied and if Michael wanted to make a statement he had to ask the court to do so and present that statement to the court.

  70. lynande51 permalink
    April 29, 2011 12:48 am

    Here is just one example of the death threats that Michael got during the trial. This one turned out to be international and he also threatened a police officer.

    Ontario man who threatened to kill Michael Jackson gets conditional sentence
    Date: November 22, 2004 Publication: AP Worldstream

    AP Worldstream
    11-22-2004
    Dateline: KITCHENER, Ontario
    A southwestern Ontario man charged with e-mailing a death threat to Michael Jackson pleaded guilty Monday to uttering death threats.

    Adrian Poffley, 26, was given a conditional discharge and put on probation for one year.

    Poffley, who can’t use e-mail during his probation, will not have a criminal record if he obeys the terms.

    The court heard that on Aug. 16, Poffley had been off his medication for depression and anxiety for about a week when he watched Jackson on television enter a courthouse in Santa Maria, California, to face charges of child molestation.

    Poffley sent an e-mail to the web site of the Santa Maria Courthouse, government prosecutor Anita Gustin told Justice Margaret Woolcott.

    “Jackson will not make it to his car,” the message stated. “This is a promise. By the way, bulletproof vests are weakest under the arm.”

    After Jackson’s court appearance, Poffley sent a second e-mail: “The cop in the green suit and blue shirt was in the way. Maybe next time.”

    Poffley’s threats caused enough concern for the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Office to launch an investigation.

    The e-mail was traced to Bell Canada’s Sympatico Internet service, which released subscriber information to police.

    He’s back on his pills now, and “he’s realized even Michael Jackson is entitled to a presumption of innocence,” Poffley’s lawyer, Sean Safa, told the judge.

    Both the prosecutor and defense recommended the conditional discharge.

    Copyright 2004, AP News All Rights Reserved

    Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed

  71. stacy2 permalink
    April 28, 2011 10:15 pm

    Michael was so nice to his fans. I read on facebook from his bodyguards that a fan had snuck into neverland and was found hiding in his closet. When Michael found her, he was shocked and surprised, but didn’t get angry. Instead, he gave her some food from the kitchen, and the security staff drove her home.

  72. shelly permalink
    April 28, 2011 10:09 pm

    Does anyone knows what was the court answer to that

    http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/022305mjmotdisbdcstresp.pdf

  73. shelly permalink
    April 28, 2011 10:06 pm

    The defense asked the court to sanction Bashir after that documentary

    http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/021505mjapposccntmt.pdf

  74. shelly permalink
    April 28, 2011 9:11 pm

    He also said that

    ” Q. BY MR. SANGER: All right. In 1993 when you

    25 came to the ranch, and you’ve already described the

    26 situation with the media and fans and all that —

    27 well, let me withdraw it and put it directly this

    28 way: Why did you feel it was necessary to carry a 9932

    1 concealed firearm while you were on the ranch

    2 property?

    3 A. Well, if I can go back to when I worked with

    4 Madonna also, they — these fans can be very

    5 dangerous and sometimes they are armed. And there’s

    6 been occasions where I’ve had fans that were armed

    7 that I’ve taken a gun away from, or a knife, and

    8 it’s just for our protection, as well as, you know,

    9 I’m not going to go in there blind and get myself

    10 hurt.”

  75. April 28, 2011 9:09 pm

    @Gigi

    I can’t find the original comment Bill made on his fbook, it was about how Mike had found her there when he got back, but here’s his response to a further question about it:

    Q: The story about the fan in the house and Michael’s reaction made me laugh so much…thanks so much for sharing these little stories and bits of info.

    – MJ told me this, it happened at Neverland while MJ was away, the fan was in the house while everyone was way.

    – No, she couldnt get thru the house cause of the security system, she stayed in a closet in the kitchen area.

    And he also said:

    Q: Did he talked to you or to the kids about us, his fans? did he know how much we love him?

    – Yes, he spoke of his fans many times in very good ways, however he was (as well as security) very cautious about which fans ment well, remember a fan killed John Lennon.

    I’ve always wondered if MJ had death threats after the allegations in 1993, I mean judging from some of the scary psychos who obsess about it here, I can imagine some of them might’ve been angry enough to threaten him.

    And yup, this Billie Jean woman is the same one who was after custody of “her” kids when MJ died, also the same one who wrote that annulment letter that was in the Vaccaro vault. She might also be the one who posts her used tampons online as declerations of her love from MJ, but I can’t remember…

  76. shelly permalink
    April 28, 2011 8:54 pm

    I find that part interesting

    “Q. Did at some point Mr. Abdool, Kassim Abdool,

    23 Ralph Chacon and Adrian McManus stopped coming to

    24 work?

    25 A. Yeah, they just stopped coming to work.

    26 Q. Did they all stop on the same day?

    27 A. Pretty much.”

  77. shelly permalink
    April 28, 2011 8:53 pm

    I found that, it’s from James van Norman

    3 Q. All right. So who were you trying to keep

    4 out?

    5 A. Fans and media.

    6 Q. All right. During the period of time you

    7 were there, did any fans actually penetrate the

    8 property?

    9 A. Yes, sir.

    10 Q. About how many occasions?

    11 A. There was quite a few that they got on the

    12 property. As to actually getting to the house,

    13 there was a few occasions that they did actually get

    14 to the house, and one occasion where they got in.

    15 Q. Okay. And where did the person get in?

    16 Where did the person who got in end up?

    17 A. She ended up in the back door, up the

    18 stairs, hiding in a crawlspace for the whole day.

    19 Q. Did that appear to you to be a serious

    20 breach of security?

    21 A. Yes, sir.

    Q. And based on your experience with Madonna

    23 and your other experience in the industry, are

    24 celebrity stalkers sometimes dangerous?

    25 A. Very.

    26 Q. Most of the time not, I take it.

    27 A. You can’t — you never know. I mean, they

    28 change. They’re very dangerous at times, though. 9906

    http://www.box.net/shared/09zmi31anq#/shared/09zmi31anq/2/9455516/94511846/1

  78. Julie permalink
    April 28, 2011 8:48 pm

    As far as Tatiana’s story, I read her book on Jetzi and to me it sounded like an obsessed fan in my opinion and I’m sure that’s how she came across to Michael Jackson. She sure showed up at his funeral service though so it sounds as though she was another bitter person that couldn’t accept that there was no relationship with Michael Jackson.

  79. Julie permalink
    April 28, 2011 4:03 pm

    From what I read about the reason for the rift between Feldman and Jackson in 2001 had to do with the fact that 9/11 happened and Jackson was trying to get his family out of New York City and Feldman wanted to go with them and he wasn’t Jackson’s first concern. Feldman felt like Jackson didn’t care if Feldman was killed or something to that overly dramatic effect. However, Jackson secured a bus for his entire family and they left NYC with Feldman complaining the entire trip about it. Once they dropped him off at his destination, Jackson just ended the friendship. But as you can clearly see, Feldman was angry like LMP was and they made ugly references about him in interviews — but when he died they suddenly had a different story to tell about him with Feldman even dressing like him for the memorial which I felt was in bad taste.

  80. April 28, 2011 2:26 pm

    David, thank you very much – a great job as usual!

    I’m glad you’ve made a transcript of Bashir’s filth (it should be used as evidence of his lies) but it is so abominable a text that I couldn’t make it to the end. The number of lies here is suffocating which makes it almost impossible to read. At least I couldn’t and after the initial looking had to get out to breathe in some fresh air – and so went over to your analysis instead.

    The reason why this documentary is so outrageous is because it was probably made in cooperation with Victor Gutierrez. When I am home today I’lll look for an article saying that Bashir made his second documentary about Michael together with Gutierrez. He was one of his three or four assistants paid for by ABC, however the end result turned out so filthy and tabloid-looking that even ABC had to sweep it under the rug, as you said. While I am looking for that article could you check the titles please to see whether Gutierrez is mentioned there?

    Another piece I want to contribute to your post is an answer to your question to Adrian McManus: “Have you no shame, Adrian? How low can you go?

    The answer is that Adrian McManus not only appropriated a drawing made by Michael Jackson but she could go as low as robbing of money two small children placed in her custody! This incredible fact is often overlooked but it was raised by Thomas Mesereau during her cross-examination where she had to admit that she and her husband had indeed stolen money from the two children whom she was supposed to take care of. This, in my opinion, is even more damaging than the drawing which she claims she found in a wastepaper basket – if this woman was capable of stealing from children she was capable of anything… I suggest you include this fact into your post.

    Excerpt from her cross-examination by Thomas Mesereau:

    3 Q. You were sued by Rosalie Hill as the
    4 guardian ad litem for two children, correct?
    5 A. Correct.
    6 Q. The children were Shane McManus and Megan
    7 McManus, correct?
    8 A. Correct.
    9 Q. And the prosecutor for the government
    10 mentioned that you didn’t have a lawyer representing
    11 you, right?
    12 A. Correct.
    13 Q. And that case was not tried before a jury,
    14 right?
    15 A. Right.
    16 Q. It was tried before a judge of the Santa
    17 Barbara Superior Court, correct?
    18 A. I believe so.
    19 Q. That was Judge Richard A. St. John, Judge of
    20 the Santa Barbara Superior Court, true?
    21 A. I believe so.
    22 Q. And you and your husband testified before
    23 Judge St. John, right?
    24 A. I believe so.
    25 Q. You told them your position under oath,
    26 correct?
    27 A. I believe so.
    28 Q. And after you told Judge St. John your 5356
    1 position under oath, he found that you and your
    2 husband willfully and maliciously defrauded these
    3 children out of the money in the estate, true?
    4 A. I believe so.
    5 Q. Judge St. John found that that money was to
    6 be held in trust for the benefit of those two
    7 children, right?
    8 A. Yes.
    9 Q. He found that you and your husband
    10 dissipated those funds, right?
    11 A. I believe so.
    12 Q. He found that you and your husband violated
    13 that trust, right?
    14 A. I believe so.
    15 Q. He entered a judgment against you and your
    16 husband for $30,000 — excuse me, 30,584.89,
    17 correct?
    18 A. I believe so, but I believe it was — I
    19 thought it was like separate, like — I thought it
    20 was maybe 17 for me and 17 for my husband. Maybe —
    21 I don’t know. Maybe that’s right, what you have
    22 there.
    23 Q. Would it refresh your recollection if I just
    24 show you Judge St. John’s judgment?
    25 A. Sure.
    26 MR. MESEREAU: May I approach, Your Honor?
    27 THE COURT: Yes.
    28 THE WITNESS: Okay. 5357
    1 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Have you had a chance to
    2 look at that judgment?
    3 A. Right here? Yes.
    4 Q. Does it refresh your recollection about the
    5 amount Judge St. John awarded the plaintiffs against
    6 you and your husband?
    7 A. Yes.
    8 Q. Okay. It was $30,584.89, which was
    9 principal and interest due, correct?
    10 A. I believe so.
    11 Q. And after he entered that judgment, Judge
    12 St. John also awarded the plaintiffs attorney’s
    13 fees, right?
    14 A. I believe so.
    15 Q. He signed a separate judgment awarding the
    16 people who sued you and your husband $5,085.27 in
    17 attorney’s fees and costs, right?
    18 A. I believe so.
    19 Q. And in that judgment, Judge St. John also
    20 found, again, that you and your husband had
    21 willfully and maliciously stolen the money from
    22 those children, right?
    23 MR. ZONEN: Objection; asked and answered.
    24 THE COURT: Sustained.
    25 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: All right. Now, that
    26 lawsuit was before you sued Michael Jackson,
    27 correct?
    28 A. I believe so. 5358

    (part 1 of Adrian McManus’s testimony, April 7, 2005)

  81. hana permalink
    April 28, 2011 12:33 pm

    I don’t like Bill O’reily, but I agree with him here:

  82. hana permalink
    April 28, 2011 12:30 pm

    “That’s simply life. It’s incredible how all these people felt Michael owed them to be their best friends for all their lives and how bitter they got over this.”

    Sounds a lot like the grifter Gavin Arvizo.

  83. lcpledwards permalink
    April 28, 2011 10:54 am

    @ Suzy
    Yes, that’s him! I assume that is the British documentary that Bashir used for most of his material.

  84. Suzy permalink
    April 28, 2011 10:19 am

    I think the boy who is named “Geoffrey” in Bashir’s documentary is actually Glenda Stein’s son, Damion (the Glenda of the famous Glenda tapes). He says exactly the same things as what he said in another documentary:

    Notice, how he says Michael was calling his mother (and not him!) all the time!

  85. April 28, 2011 6:52 am

    @ Suzy

    Feldman and Michael were friends until 9/11 and what happened after – that was the only thing that caused the rift, not him getting older. So a friendship from 1984-2001, 17 years, not exactly some half assed friendship. ALL of Mike’s kid friends he stayed close with his whole life. The Robsons, Barnes, Cascio’s, Emmanuel Lewis, Jimmy having his wedding there, 3T, his cousins Levon, Elijah who you can see throwing him into a pool in 1991 and then going to Gary Indiana with him and shopping with him in 2002 (as well as you can see them at various points in pics inbetween), Macaulay godfather to his kids, the Schleiter’s Mike was still spending time at their house in 2006, Omer Bhatti was a friend until his death, Kidada Jones was styling him for photoshoots in 1995, Nicole Richie was hanging out with him when she was older, Kellie Parker was close with him for 10 years after Moonwalker, the Agajanians were friends with him always in fact Amy only drifted apart ’cause she was jealous of LMP, Gotham Chopra was friends with Mike till an adult… it’s a myth that he would abandon kids when they’d get older, and in fact Corey Feldman the little rodent is a great example of how MJ would not ditch people when they were older, he would only cut people off – surprise surprise – when they would do things against him.

  86. Suzy permalink
    April 28, 2011 6:29 am

    Note: Of course, it’s not true that Michael befriends and abandons children when he gets bored. There are several people with whom his friendship continued into adulthood. Feldman wasn’t among them. (Though I’m not even sure of that since he was there at his concert on 9/11, so they had to have kept some kind of contact. ) Tough luck. Friendship is like that: with some you keep it up, with others you grow apart. That’s simply life. It’s incredible how all these people felt Michael owed them to be their best friends for all their lives and how bitter they got over this.

  87. Suzy permalink
    April 28, 2011 6:25 am

    Here is what Feldman said during the trial: http://abcnews.go.com/2020/LegalCenter/story?id=481709&page=1

    What a little rat! Nothing ever happened but he had to make insinuations. He didn’t think anything of that book at the time, but now when he thinks back 20 years later – and when it’s cool to bash MJ in the media – he suddenly sees it as disturbing. I see….

    As for the porn comment, I can imagine it being a light-hearted joke by Michael (if it ever happened). They obviously never watched or looked at porn magazines together, otherwise Corey would have mentioned that.

    So maybe he said something like: “I will only go over to your place if you have Playboy.” Jokingly. Whether it’s appropriate to say that to a teenager?
    Well, Corey wasn’t exactly a clueless, innocent teenager. (I think at the time he might have had more sexual experience than Michael did….) Even if Michael really made that comment it was probably just like too guys joking with each other. Like I said if they had watched porn together Corey certainly would have mentioned that, so they didn’t and it was probably just a joke by Michael.

    And you are right, Rockonforever. This is from Feldman’s Wikipedia article:

    “Feldman accused Michael Jackson of damaging his childhood by befriending and then abandoning him. The two became close after Feldman found fame as a young star in Gremlins, Goonies and Stand by Me. Feldman admitted Jackson helped many children by becoming a friend and mentor – but claimed he did more harm than good, by dropping kids when he grew bored. The actor said, “He did real damage in my overall life. I was a 12-year-old boy who was hurt by his family and ignored by people at school. Michael would sit and talk to me for hours and he would listen. Then he would get bored. The biggest thing that Michael’s done to children is befriending the ones that are in need and then abandoning them”.

  88. hana permalink
    April 28, 2011 5:34 am

    Why didn’t Bashir let Michael review the documentary before it aired? Was it because he knew that Michael wouldn’t have approved of it?

  89. April 28, 2011 5:12 am

    @Suzy

    Corey just seemed intensely butthurt that MJ didn’t want to be his friend after what happened between them on 9/11. Like with many many MANY people in his life, being cut off from MJ messed people up – Tatiana lost her hair, Sheryl Crow didn’t get out of bed for a year, Lisa Marie had a breakdown, Debbie Rowe was doing beauty treatments for the 2005 trial, Evan Chandler said one of the worst things about MJ was how he stopped taking his calls, Gavin was more emotional over MJ cutting them off than being molested, Brooke Shields, Diana Ross all publicly complained about their lack of access to MJ, in the Vaccaro vault there are at least 6-7 letters from Jermaine begging for contact after MJ had cut him off because he was likely being an ass…

    Oh and reading back through Corey things, Corey only said he had 2 sleep overs with Mike and Mike never stayed over at his place – guess he didn’t have the right porno laying around!

    This is what Corey said about the Bashir doc btw:

    NY TIMES

    Corey Feldman’s Fourth Act

    By JASON ZINOMAN
    Published: July 10, 2005

    “Where’s Corey?” shouts Tim Haskell, the director of this adaptation of the 1980’s thriller that starred Michael Douglas and Glenn Close as his stalker. The cast, which includes the playwrights Alana McNair and Kate Wilkinson, is ready for the run-through, but Mr. Feldman is having a cigarette break outside with his wife, Susie Sprague, a tan 20-year-old who has the kind of hourglass figure found only in anime cartoons and certain parts of Los Angeles.

    Mr. Haskell, who has built something of a cottage industry downtown turning pop culture detritus into cult plays like the long-running “I Hate Paris,” runs his hand through his hair. A minute later, Mr. Feldman, 33, arrives and rehearsal begins. He plays Michael Douglas (that’s actually the character’s name), and he does a pretty good impression, jutting his chin out and shouting with yuppie urgency.

    Mr. Feldman explains that he can relate. “My ex-wife is a stalker,” he said. “She won’t leave me alone.” His current wife is too, he added. “I never would have gotten married if it wasn’t for stalkers.”

    As anyone who grew up in the 1980’s should know, Mr. Feldman starred in “Stand By Me,” “The Goonies” and a series of coming-of-age films with a fellow heartthrob, Corey Haim. “Corey now lives in Canada with his mom,” Mr. Feldman says. “He has gone in a different direction, but he’ll always be my brother.”

    As is often the case with child stars, his private life became as famous as his on-screen roles. He sued his parents, went to rehab and had a close friendship with Michael Jackson. (More on that in a moment.)

    Mr. Feldman, who has hardly gained a pound or a wrinkle since his teenage years, wants people to look past his childhood. He tried image repair by appearing on the first season of “The Surreal Life,” a reality show starring down-on-their-luck celebrities. He even married on the show, but it backfired. “We had been engaged for six months, but they said, ‘We need a shot of you proposing to her,’ ” he said. “They made it seem like I was like, ‘Let’s get married because it would get great ratings.’ ”

    His film work has for the most part dried up (recent titles include “Bikini Bandits” and “Serial Killing 4 Dummys”), so he turned to theater. Danny Pintauro (“Who’s the Boss?”) and Neil Patrick Harris (“Doogie Howser”) have recently done it. Why not a former Goony?

    If all goes well with “Fatal Attraction,” Mr. Feldman hopes to move into musical theater. “I want to do rock operas. I would kill for the job of ‘The Wall,’ ” he said about the musical version of the Pink Floyd film whose rights were acquired by Miramax and Thomas Mottola last year. “I would do anything. I would jump on the producer’s desk naked. I would cut my chest with a razor blade.”

    Meanwhile, Mr. Feldman says he now tries to stay out of the tabloids, but it has not been easy.

    Mr. Feldman, who had a falling-out with Mr. Jackson in 2001, says that he was shocked by the verdict. But he sounds even more upset at Mr. Bashir. “Bashir approached me with doing a 20/20 retrospective about my career,” Mr. Feldman explained. “He said he would ask about Michael, but it would only be a small portion of the show. We shot 36 hours of footage, and it was a 20-minute Michael Jackson piece. Tricked again.”

    “I’m gullible,” Mr. Feldman says. “The world needs a scapegoat, plain and simple. Somewhere, there was an electoral ballot, and I was nominated.”

    Such an ass. Then come crawling back into the picture when MJ died, ugh.

    Interesting to hear how desperate he was for work at that time too, hmmmmmm.

  90. April 28, 2011 5:10 am

    Great article and analysis David. I tried my best to read all of the transcript, but the things these insane people were saying was getting on my nerves. I read all of your analysis at the end, which is spot on as always.

    @Rockforeveron

    the info you provided on all these unstable women & crazy paps stalking MJ is really messed up. That 2008 incident is creepy as all get out. Now that really must have scared the crap out of MJ. Did Bill Whitefield say where this woman took up residence inside MJ’s house?

  91. lynande51 permalink
    April 28, 2011 4:44 am

    @rockon I get way to caught up in wanting to debunk everything too. Bill Dworin for instance. He was once a member of the LAPD but of course now goes on talking junkets selling his expertise. That started soon after the Chandler case flew apart. The Interseting thing about those photos is that he is a LAPD detective. The affadavit and search warrant were from Santa Barbara County. They did not share their information and the only copy of those photos were and still are in a safe deposit box belonging to the Santa Barbara County Sheriffs Department and DA. And he was not representing LAPD at the ranch during the search Detective Fred Sicard was. Detective Rosibel Furkino and Detective Fred Sicard were in charge of the LA investigation and they were the ones that flew all over the world interviewing the idiot ex employees.At the ranch that day was Sneddon, Cochran, Weitzman, Dr. David Forecast, Dr. Arnold Klein, Bill Bray, Detective Fred Sicard LAPD, Detective Russ Birchim SBSD, Dr. Richard Strick, Detective Photographer Gary Speigel SBSD, and Michael’s personal phtographer Louis Swain. At what point if they had never been passed around the police station did he get to see them? Sneddon and Birchim for years like to tell that Michael started throwing a tantrum so theycouldn’t get enough pictures to prove if Jordans description matched. In his declaration to the court Sneddon said it was on the right side? There have been so many descriptions of the descriptions that say it was a match and they all lead to the “markings” he supposedly had not one of them address the little uncircumcised problem do they. They have been working that angle for far to long .
    And am I wrong or did that crazy lady not try to sue for custody of Michaels kids after he died too. I hope they have a picture of her too cause that lady is nuts.And I for one remember all too well John Lennon and President Regan and James Brady being shot by a stalker fan of Jodi Fosters. Stalkers are a very frightening thing and it is not just famous people that have them.

  92. Suzy permalink
    April 28, 2011 4:24 am

    @ Rockon

    I haven’t read the whole article yet, just the comments. As for Feldman, let’s not forget how two-faced he is. He didn’t have a problem with that coffee table book he saw at Michael’s for decades as he obviously didn’t feel Michael had some sinister intentions with that. But when MJ is on trial, fighting for his life, suddenly he starts to “remember” that it was “disturbing” and tell it on TV and to the likes of Bashir…. When for 20 years he didn’t think anything of it – probably because he didn’t have a reason to think anything of it.

    Didn’t Corey Haim too said Feldman was a fair-weather friend? He probably didn’t use this word, but he said he was disappointed with him.

    I also remember he bashed Michael for not picking him up in his car in New York at 9/11 or something? Didn’t Rebbie say it wasn’t true? They picked him up and took him home?

  93. stacy2 permalink
    April 28, 2011 3:17 am

    You forgot to mention the fake letter he wrote himself claiming it came from Princess Diana telling him what a great journalist he was and how she loved his interview. That’s how he tricked Uri into getting him to Michael Jackson. The guy is a snake and has absolutely no integrity. It just goes to show you how far people will go for a little bit of success. He ruined Michael Jackson’s life and set the stage for another set of accusations with his selective editing and constant insinuations. He took out any footage that painted MJ in a good light and only used footage that supported his biased agenda. Calling him a journalist is an insult to people like Geraldo, Maury Povich and Mike Taibbi who actually went to school for years to obtain that title. Bashir really needs to get off the air already. I’m so happy his show is doing poorly in the ratings. Everybody knows about him and he’s not well respected. Just give it a few months. His show will get canceled, and he won’t be able to obtain any high profile interviews because of his reputation and he will go back to what he was before–A no name struggling tabloid reporter..

  94. April 28, 2011 3:10 am

    Here’s Billie Jean’s history btw:

    Jackson Rocked With Paternity Suit
    Aug 20, 1987 –

    A Chicago woman who calls herself “Billie Jean” Jackson has filed a $150 million paternity lawsuit against singer Michael Jackson, 28, saying he has admitted fathering her three children but refuses to pay child support.

    The claims are ” ridiculous and preposterous,” Jackson’s publicist , Lee Solters, said Wednesday.

    The suit was filed inCook County Circuit Court by Lavon Powlis, 39, who calls herself Billie Jean Jackson and says Jackson once proposed to her.

    A spokesman for a state welfare agency said Ms. Powlis, , had named other celebrities as the father of her children but that this was the first time she had filed a paternity suit.

    Ms. Powlis has at least twice named other notable people as the children’s father, but had never filed a paternity lawsuit, he said. ”She is famous for claiming that various famous people are the father of her children,” Schneidman said. ”This lady doesn’t know who the father is, we don’t.”

    The Illinois Department of Children and Family Services says the pop singer is just one of several famous men whom Lavon Powlis (also known as Billie Jean Jackson) occasionally has named as the father of her three children. A spokesman said the agency took the children from Powlis, 39, after she had left two of them alone at a Chicago Black Muslim mosque. They now are living with relatives in New York City, he said.

    Ms.Powlis, who describes herself as an unemployed legal secretary living in northwest suburban Hanover Park, alleges in her lawsuit that she and the singer had sexual contact on two occasions, on May 5,1975, and July 4, 1981. The lawsuit says Jackson “admitted that he had intimate relations with the plaintiff and has acknowledged that he is the father ” of her 5-year-old twins – a girl and a boy – and her 11-year-old son.

    ”Defendant is well able to pay plaintiff’s expenses in connection with ( the pregnancies), but upon demands duly made by plaintiff, defendant has vexatiously refused and failed to pay any expense due plaintiff under the Illinois Parentage Act, 1984 ” the lawsuit contends.

    In a telephone interview wednesday, Ms. Powlis said the children were conceived in a blue Rolls Royce parked in front of the singer’s suburban Los Angeles home.

    ”Michael is the father, Michael got me pregnant and I want Michael to pay for it,““I want his name for the children, plus $50-million per child.“ I need some money and I want some money for my children.”

    She said she met Jackson in 1975 when she was living in New York, after writing him letters and telling him had always been in love with him… and I wanted to meet him.”

    ”He invited me out to LA”Ms.Powlis said. ”Michael asked me to marry him September 13 1985. I said yes, of course.”

    Since then, Powlis said, “family feuds” have delayed the wedding and Jackson has refused to pay child support. She said she waited to file the lawsuit “because Michael and I were going to get married and take care of it quietly.”

    Her lawsuit, filed Aug. 14 without a lawyer, asks that the court “enter an order declaring Michael Jackson to be the father” of the three children, and that he be required to pay child support as well as 150 million in “support for the mother.”

    Jackson’s publicist declined further comment on the lawsuit. ”We know nothing about it, and until we are in receipt of any legal documents, there is no comment,” Solters said.
    Quote:
    Jackson Paternity Lawsuit Dismissed

    Jan 29, 1988 – Judge Adolphus Rivers dismissed the lawsuit Wednesday without comment. Jackson, who grew up in nearby Gary, Ind., has an unlisted telephone number in California, and could not be reached. He begins a US tour Feb. 23 in Kansas City, Mo.

    Quote:
    Mar 19, 1988 - Associated Press

    MICHAEL JACKSON

    Lavon A. Muhammad, 40, who was twice convicted of trespassing on the pop star’s estate, is accused of scaling a 5-foot wall to enter the mansion’s backyard on Feb. 12, carrying a champagne bottle.

    Muhammad claimed during a hearing Thursday in Los Angeles Municipal Court that her purported engagement to Jackson gave her the right to be there.
    Quote:
    Pursues Michael Jackson Would-Be `Billie Jean’ Facing 1 1/2 Years in Jail

    Mar 18, 1988 – A woman who claims to be the Billie Jean popularized on Michael Jackson’s hit album “Thriller” could spend 18 months in jail for repeatedly trespassing on the entertainer’s Encino property.

    Lavon A. Muhammad, 40-who insists that court officials call her Billie Jean Jackson-maintained at a hearing in Van Nuys Municipal Court Thursday that she is engaged to the pop superstar and has every right to be at his home. Muhammad, whose attorney did not know her most recent address also claims that Jackson fathered her 6-year-old twins, according to her court-appointed attorney , Michael M. Koire. Deputy City Atty. David S. Kestenbaum, however, said the 29- year-old entertainer has never met Muhammad,and that she was not the inspiration for the song in which Jackson sings: “Billie Jean is not my lover” and “The kid is not my son.” Kestenbaum said Muhammad has been harassing Jackson for four years , loitering near his house, representing herself as his wife and instructing clerks at fashionable Ventura Boulevard boutiques to bill him for clothing she intended to purchase. If Muhammad is convicted of trespassing and found to be in violation of her probation, she could be sentenced to 18 months in a jail or a psychiatric facility, Kestenbaum said.

    In May, 1986, Muhammad was sentenced to 36 months’ probation after being convicted of a misdemeanor count of trespassing, Kestenbaum said. In September, 1986, she was sentenced to 52 days in jail and two years’ probation after she was convicted of trespassing again, he said.
    Quote:
    303 Days for Michael Jackson’s Pursuer Self-Styled `Billie Jean’ Sentenced

    Mar 19, 1988 –
    [Lavon A. Muhammad]’s lawyer, Deputy Public Defender Michael M. Koire, said that Muhammad didn’t intend to commit a crime because she believes that she is Jackson’s fiancee, and sending her to jail would be “a misuse of the criminal justice system.”

    Koire predicted that the jail sentence will not deter Muhammad from returning to Jackson’s property after she is released. “She feels like Michael wants her on the property, that she’s supposed to be there,” Koire said.

    The woman uses the name “Billie Jean Jackson,” but authorities say this is not her name. Kestenbaum offered to send Muhammad to Metropolitan State Hospital in Norwalk for a mental evaluation in exchange for a lighter sentence, but Muhammad refused. “She doesn’t want to be with people who murder people, who burn people, who knife people,” Koire said. Besides, she would not get time off for good behavior during the 150-day psychiatric evaluation. Credit for good behavior and the time she has already been in custody is expected to reduce the time she will serve on the 303-day sentence to less than 125 days, Koire said
    Quote:
    Mar 19, 1988 –

    In court, the woman insisted on being called “Billie Jean Jackson,” after Jackson’s hit song “Billie Jean.” Kestenbaum said there is nothing to her allegation and that Jackson obtained a civil restraining order in 1986 keeping her away from him. If she tries to go back to Jackson’s home and violates the order, which remains in effect until 1990, she could face another year in jail, Kestenbaum said.

    Quote:
    JACKSON FAN ARRESTED IN COURTROOM

    Dec 17, 1988 – A 40-year-old woman who claims to be singer Michael Jackson’s wife was arrested in a Los Angeles courtroom Friday on suspicion of violating a court order to stay away from Jackson’s Encino home.
    Billie Jean Jackson, who changed her name from Lavon Powlis, violated a three-year restraining order issued last year by continuing to visit Jackson’s home, said Deputy City Attorney David S. Kestenbaum.
    Jackson was arrested peacefully in a Superior Court civil courtroom by sheriff’s deputies Friday morning after she arrived for a legal motion in an unrelated case, said court clerk Dave Bradford. Jackson, who took her first names from a Michael Jackson song about unwanted paternity and her last name from the singer, was placed on the restraining order after she continually tried to contact Jackson and repeatedly visited his home, contending that she was the woman featured in he song. ” She is under the delusion that she’s married to him,” Kestenbaum said.
    Quote:
    Woman pleads innocent to harrassing Jackson

    Dec 22, 1988 -A former legal secretary who claims to be married to Michael Jackson pleaded innocent to violating a court order to stay away from the pop singer’s home.
    Lavon Muhammad, who calls her self Billie Jean Jackson, has been harassing Jackson for five years, by loitering near his home and misrepresenting herself as his wife, ‘said Deputy City Attorney Davis Kestenbaum. Miss Muhammad was arrested Friday for violating a restraining order is sued last year prohibiting her from loitering outside Jackson’s home in suburban Encino. She pleaded innocent to the charge Tuesday. The woman was released on 5000 bail and faces a Jan. 10 trial. If convicted, she could face up to one year in jail and fined 1,000$.
    Quote:
    ”Billie Jean” convicted of trespass

    Jan 28, 1989 – Lavon Muhammad, who also says Jackson fathered her 6-year-old twins, was found guilty Wednesday of eight misdemeanors, including trespassing and violating a court order to stay more than 100 yards from Jackson’s Encino property. The woman, who calls herself Billie Jean Jackson, allegdly harrassed Jackson for five years leading to a 1986 restraining order.
    Quote:
    Harassed Singer, Woman Gets 2 1/2 Years to Ponder Song

    Jan 31, 1989 – As he imposed the maximum allowable sentence, Van Nuys Municipal Court Judge Stephen E. O’Neil urged that [Lavon A. Muhammad]-who insisted that court officials call her Billie Jean Jackson-listen to lyrics from a song on [Michael Jackson]’s latest album, “Bad.” The song is titled “Leave Me Alone.”

    At the time of the jury verdict, O’Neil gave Muhammad the option of receiving psychiatric treatment instead of going to jail. She refused the offer, O’Neil said. On Monday, O’Neil extended the offer again and Muhammad declined a second time.

    [David S. Kestenbaum] argued that the judge had no option but to impose the maximum sentence because Muhammad has continually violated the terms of the restraining order.

    In August, Muhammad tried to buy a wedding gown and bill it to Jackson, Kestenbaum said. In December, she had a $145 bill for medical treatment sent to Jackson’s house, he said. Earlier this month, Muhammad walked up Jackson’s driveway in Encino, where she was stopped by a security guard and arrested by Los Angeles police, Kestenbaum said. She has been in custody since.

    Quote:
    Jun 5, 1990 – SANTA MONICA – Michael Jackson underwent tests at a hospital to determine the cause of chest pains as several fans of the superstar kept a vigil outside. One fan was arrested for violating a court order to stay away from Jackson, police said Monday.

    Several fans milled outside the hospital on Monday, including a woman who later arrested for investigation of violating a court order to stay away from Jackson.

    Lavon A. Muhammad, 42, who calls herself Billie Jean Jackson, was turned over to police by St-John’s security guards, said police Sgt.John Miehle.

    Quote:
    May 21, 1997 – A woman who calls herself Billie Jean Jackson and claims to have children with Michael Jackson was arrested for the eighth time at his Neverland estate. Police say she forced her way into the main house Sunday and punched a housekeeper. Jackson was not there.


    March 12, 2008

    A woman called Billie Jean has claimed she is Michael Jackson’s wife. A seemingly reproduction of the hit 1983 song, the woman has trespassed at the King of Pop’s Neverland ranch and told guards she is his wife.

    The security staff turned 60-year-old Billie Jean Jackson from the property after the guards refused to believe she is indeed the wife of the legendary musician, and therefore, the property also belongs to her. Billie Jean was caught climbing the fence to get into the ranch.

    A Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department spokesperson says, “She told security she was Michael Jackson’s wife and that it was her ranch too.”

    “They turned her away, but she just moved a few yards down the road and climbed over the fence.”

    Police were called to the scene and arrested the woman for trespassing. She was released on a $2500 bail.

    Billie Jean was Jackson’s famous song released about a woman claiming to be married to him. The 49-year-old singer undertook the composition of the song personally. It was inspired by his own experience in 1981 when a woman of that name claimed to be married to him. She was reportedly later sent to a mental hospital.

    Quote:
    December 2008

    Michael Jackson Sued For $1 Billion By Billie Jean

    Michael Jackson has been hit with a $1 billion lawsuit from a woman called Bille Jean – who reportedly wants custody of his son.

    In a suit filed in Los Angeles on Wednesday, Billie Jean Jackson alleges she is the mother of the singer’s son Prince Michael Jackson II, nicknamed Blanket.

    The woman demands $1 billion in support payment, as well as joint legal and physical custody of the six-year-old, according to legal documents obtained by U.S. news programme Extra.

    Billie Jean also requests visits with the boy on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays – in addition to participation in Blanket’s education.

    Jackson refused to identify Blanket’s mother after he was born in 2002, but has previously said the child was the result of artificial insemination from a surrogate.

    He has faced similar lawsuits in the past. In 2006 and 2007, a woman unsuccessfully sued him for paternity payments, claiming she helped Jackson reproduce.

    So yeah, Michael had reasons to be afraid…

  95. April 28, 2011 2:53 am

    I love posts that go through things like this piece by piece and debunk them so fluently.

    Because whenever I end up catching myself watching one of these shows or reading one of these books, within seconds all I have is the urge to get a big red marker and go through the whole thing and point out all the inaccuracies, the lies, the distortions, the ommisions, page by page, moment by moment. But there are always so many I feel too exhausted to even begin.

    Added to what Kit Culkin said about MJ being afraid – Bill Whitfield his bodyguard from 2007-2008 has also spoken about how MJ once woke up to find a fan in his house who’d apparently been living there for a while and he only caught her as she was getting a snack from the kitchen, he also spoke about fans sleeping outside his house in cars, LaToya Jackson in her book speaks of a fan invading Encino who stripped off all her clothes and said she was going to kill them all for being near Michael, Michael in 1982 spoke about the girl who he says inspired Billie Jean a girl who was sending him photos and threatening him and he said he wanted to memorize her face should he ever see her, David Nordahl has spoken about the threats MJ received over his kids which lead to them being covered up, at the wedding for Larry and Liz paparazzi actually parachuted into his property so his fears about owning the airspace above him weren’t exactly unfounded, the girl who changed her name to Billie Jean, that psycho scary fan who believes she’s the mother of his kids, would break into his property on a regular basis and he had numerous restraining orders against her. Those are just the stories off the top of my head.

    Ahmad Elatab – had actually first met Michael in 1997 and spent time there with his brother at Neverland on and off until 2002 and met the Arvizo’s. He was even outside Neverland in 2005 when he was acquitted to cheer for him. He now works as a paparazzi and recently was the guy yelling out “Miley! Miley!” to Paris which made Prince laugh.

    Although Tatiana claimed nothing happened between them now… she spent most of her book talking about how heterosexual she believed he was, how he flirted with her, talked to her, touch her, blah blah blah, there are a lot of women still obsessed by their encounters with MJ 20-30 years on. Also, that quote about how the family didn’t like it, suggesting the family were concerned – edited! In her book she talks about WHY the family didn’t like it which was that they believed MJ should be spending time and money on HIS family and not on his friends. They at the time claimed that 3T Mike’s nephews didn’t even have tour jackets (not true!). Books like hers are actually interesting in what they reveal about the dynamics of his family – their dislike for Bill Bray and Frank Dileo and anyone close to him. That was what they didn’t like, not that he was hanging out with kids. Remember this is when he just moved out of his home to Neverland and he’d done that without his parents knowing and both Kath/Joe were embroiled in things at the time – Korea/Moonies, which gave MJ obvious reasons to want to keep his distance.

    And about the Corey thing –

    He became obsessed with the star, dancing like him, even dressing like him.

    Doesn’t that contradict Jimmy being the first mini-MJ?

    Check out that outfit:

    After MJ died you could see him regularly going back to dressing like him again too.

    Jackson suggested that he would sleep over in his home, only if he had pornographic magazines there.

    I still don’t understand what the context or meaning behind this is… would MJ call him up and say “Hey, can I crash at yours? Oh wait, but make sure you have Playboy or I won’t be there?” I wish they’d gotten Feldman to explain WTF he meant by that, but obviously they didn’t, because I have a feeling this isn’t as creepy as it’s being suggested or as is most likely, has been taken out of context. Otherwise it’s really bizarre and I can’t imagine anyone consenting to anything as crazy. “Oh sure, come to mine, I’ll have the Playboys on the table and we’ll play video games!” And once again, Corey named the person who had actually molested him, but the investigator’s involved had no interest in pursuing him.

    Strangely, he doesn’t also mention the reason for him being so bitter about MJ in 2005… namely that they’d had a falling out after 9/11 happened, and Corey had thrown a tantrum about being escorted out of NYC with him. So they’d been friends as adults for a long time then, so much for MJ “forcing” kids to leave NL once they grew too old. A picture of them at the MSG concerts together

    See, I get way too caught up wanting to debunk everything ;)

    Great post as always! :)

  96. lcpledwards permalink
    April 28, 2011 2:14 am

    @ Anna
    Thanks! I have more projects up my sleeve, so stay tuned!

    Also guys, in addition to “MJ’s Secret World”, I also added the 2005 Harvard Seminar and the 2010 Frozen In Time seminars to the blogroll as well. I know that watching videos is so much easier than reading transcripts! The Santa Barbara Superior Courts website (where all of the pleadings are stored) was also added.

    If only I could obtain the 2 Dateline episodes that NBC aired in 2003 and 2004…………….

  97. Anna permalink
    April 28, 2011 1:47 am

    Awesome David! I haven’t read the whole thing yet, but I had no idea this was one of the projects you were going to tackle. This is great from what’s I’ve read so far! I know I speak for many when I say I can’t thank you enough for what you do on this blog of Vindicating Michael!

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