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“Leaving Neverland” transcript. The 2nd half hour of LIES AND DISTORTION

March 31, 2019

The next half hour of the film contains even worse distortions of the timeline than the first one, and this makes it even clearer that Dan Reed is part and parcel of the Robson/ Safechuck scam project.

The problem is that in addition to the two guys’ lies Dan Reed deliberately paints the picture of “grooming” which was absolutely not the case if you know the real timeline. So in order to fill the void Dan Reed builds the suspense artificially – by editing the footage and manipulating the dates. The goal is to present Michael Jackson’s normal interaction with the families as something utterly calculating and sinister.

In reality Safechuck had very little communication with Michael Jackson – after their brief meeting during the December 1986 Pepsi commercial he saw him again only 8 months later, and that was only because he kept bombarding MJ with letters and the polite Michael finally invited them to dinner at Nevenhurst in early November 1987 (during a break between the two legs of his Bad tour).

And Robson didn’t see MJ for two years which passed between their first meet and greet in Australia and the family’s arrival in the US when they spent a whole week seeking out Michael Jackson and struggling to find his telephone number. Their further interaction was not that intense either – in 2005 Joy Robson testified that in 14 years she recalled only 4 occasions when Wade and Michael Jackson were together at Neverland. At all other times the Robsons were there without him.

So not only Dan Reed didn’t check the facts, but he also aggravated the two guys’ lies by artificially “intensifying” their friendship with MJ and creating a continuous story out of the few bits and pieces the two guys had.

And in doing so Reed uses the usual Hollywood suspense and other professional tricks. For example, he drops Safechuck’s story at a strategic point where Safehuck pensively remarks that he thought they were “the luckiest boys in the world”, and then proceeds to Robson’s happy childhood in Australia – and by this contrast alone conveys to us how their bright expectations “were ruined by the horrible Jackson.”

Actually Robson’s happy childhood in Australia is where we also start now as this fragment of the film was omitted in the previous post in order not to interrupt Safechuck’s smooth narration.

13:35 November 1987 (intense music) Michael is shown arriving at the airport (footage of the city and concert)

Robson: He was performing two nights in Brisbane. We went to the first concert just to watch and this was the first time I’d seen him perform live (concert footage). I remember my mind just being blown. His energy magnified through all those thousands of people and through all those speakers, and the energy kind of shaking my whole body.

14:29 Joy Robson (looking enthusiastic): We went to the concert the Friday night and we had a meet-and-greet with Michael (photo of Michael, music) 

14:40 Robson: Here he was now, you know (music) as a seemingly real human being. He kept commenting on my Bad outfit (photo of MJ and Wade), how great he thought it was.

15:00 Joy Robson: And Michael said, “Did you go to concert tonight?” And he said, “I wish I’d known. I would have put him on stage with me”. I said, “We’ll be there tomorrow night”, because he had given us tickets as well, as the winner. So he said, “I’ll see what I can do.”

15:15 Robson: The next day I was on a TV show (clip from a TV show)

 (aerial view of a big city)

16:05 Robson: Music goes blaring, the lights are going this intensely, it is a wild sensation.

Joy Robson (looking fascinated): All of a sudden a huge Black man came with a big top hat and took Wade into his arms and told us to wait there and took him backstage.

Robson (fascinated too): The curtain is pulled back. Michael came up to me and grabbed my hand and gave me a signal, “come on, let’s do it”. I looked at this sea of people and then something clicked, like I was almost him, almost, for a moment (looking happy), with his audience. He got all these other kids and Steve Wonder was on stage.

Joy Robson: And then it was time for Michael to leave, it was the end of the concert and he called the kids to follow him off stage, and Wade didn’t see it and he is still dancing. Michael realized it and laughed. Michael just clapped and walked off, and Wade realized that everyone was leaving. It was very cute.

18:10 Robson (suddenly sounding technical): Each moment of that eye connection was like a bit of a shock to the system. The performance, that meet and greet were such dreamlike experiences and kind of sensory overload, emotional overload.

18:45 Shane Robson: I remember them coming home after the concert. He came into my bedroom, he was all excited. He was kind of teary telling a story about dancing with Michael Jackson.

19:00 (a drone shot of a big city, music) Joy Robson’s voiceover:

The next morning I wanted to bring a thank you letter because that was his last concert, he was leaving Australia. There were fans all around, they all recognized Wade, so he was a little celebrity, they were taking photos of him or talking to him. Michael (photo of MJ) had heard that we were in the lobby and invited us to come up to his room. And I remember Wade’s face lighting up “I’m going to meet a superstar and he was so excited (photo of him and MJ). Who gets to meet a superhero and this little boy do it twice now?

19:45 Robson: And I am spending about two hours in his hotel suite (clip from MJ’s video). He was in some sort of editing process for his Moonwalker film. There he was on the TV screen, as I was used to seeing him, and then he was sitting right next to me on the bed.

20:05 Joy Robson (smiling): Michael’s hand was rubbing up and down on the sheets beside my elbow as he was talking to us and I was thinking, “Oh, my God, I am on a bed with Michael Jackson.” No one was going to believe this. We all had an overwhelming weekend, that’s for sure (footage of MJ taking the kid’s hand on stage, music).

20:30 Robson: This little Australian boy who had this other worldly experience of meeting my idol and my mentor, my god – like I’ve been anointed, some kind of way.

The “anointment” is another of those points where Dan Reed makes a strategic pause. Sure, what else could it be but Robson’s “anointment”? Certainly not the usual meet and greet MJ had with thousands of people all over the world, or the customary dance he had with random children who joined him on stage in every city he visited.

There is one more point that draws our attention here. When Wade and Joy Robson came into Michael Jackson’s hotel room to thank him, he was sitting on the bed and editing the Moonwalker film with the video equipment in front of him. He didn’t mind both visitors sit on his bed too, which made Joy Robson feel exhilarated (she was on the bed with Michael Jackson!). For her it was an incredible thrill, while for Michael it was nothing special and he didn’t even notice the impression this familiarity produced on the others.

This is just an example of how little Michael Jackson knew of socially accepted rules, how much he behaved like a kid and what amount of attention others paid to things he didn’t even notice.

At this point Dan Reed switches over to Safechuck’s mother who says that her son often spoke with MJ on the phone.  Speaking on the phone during the tour was indeed Michael’s favorite pastime, only please remember that those phone chats could take place only after Thanksgiving Day on November 26th 1988 when the Safechucks called Michael in Australia themselves and invited him to make a return visit to their home. The dinner at Havenhurst prior to that was the first time they met after the Pepsi commercial, so during that period they were still very much on official terms.

33:25 Stephanie Safechuck: A lot of our conversations were on the telephone. My son would be on the phone hours with Michael, hours. And he would talk to me, he would call me during the day. Long conversations is how we got to know people, I think (MJ’s short telephone message is reproduced).

33:53 Safechuck: We were talking on the phone pretty regularly (photo of MJ with a telephone in his hand on a plane). And I was dancing and taking dance seriously. And it was like, “Come, join me on tour”

34:05 Stephanie Safechuck: And he said, “You can choose whenever you want to come and stay as long as you want.” (photo of Jimmy, mom and dad).

34:13 Safechuck: So as soon as school ended, I joined the tour for the summer (plane at the airport, flying, footage of MJ arriving at some place, crowds of people greeting him).

My mother went (photo of MJ, Jimmy, mom and dad), my father would join, but he wouldn’t be all time .

34:40 Stephanie Safechuck: He flies you first class, he’ll have a Limo waiting for you at the airport. Amazing. It’s the life of the rich and famous (footage of MJ in concert).

34:50 Safechuck: I came at the end of the song “Bad”. He would pick kids out from the crowd, like ten or twelve kids, I had a Bad outfit that was just like his, and we like sidewalked and did a few steps together (a shot from a concert)

35:30 Safechuck: It’s hard to explain to people what tour is like. It’s pretty crazy (MJ at another airport, hysterical crowds greet him, Jimmy sneaks from a car to avoid mobbing. Another crowd – of Japanese fans ).

The excitement of just walking from his car is insane (another crowd in Europe now), people are snapping pictures, holding on to the tour handles and being dragged by the car, they are crying. It is unique experience.

36:40 Safechuck: That level of star power (MJ in concert). I am ten on the tour, we are having shows every night, it’s a bit overwhelming. There are all sort of amazing  moments on tour that you don’t get in normal life (MJ and Jimmy in another concert).

37:08 (arriving at Tokyo airport) 

37:15 Stephanie Safechuck: None of us were living a normal life when we travelled with Michael. I got to meet Sean Connery, that was big for me (excited), I was like, “Oh my God, Sean Connery!”

37:25 Safechuck (looking displeased): And at the shows the stars come in to meet him. Harrison Ford and George Lucas (photos with Harrison Ford and others), Steven Spielberg and we even went to the Indiana Jones movie and Harrison Ford took me outside and showed me how he uses his bow whip and then he gave me his bow whip (photo with Harrison Ford)

37:55 Stephanie Safechuck: I was on a bus with Tina Turner, the bus with VIPs that took us back and forth to the hotel (footage in Japan with Sumo wrestlers) and I heard her tell her boyfriend as I was sitting close, “That little white boy sure can dance” (broad, happy smile). I knew she was talking about Jimmy. Oh, I know he can dance (photo of mom and Jimmy). It was always a proud moment to see him on stage (more concert footage).

38:25 (more planes landing, photo of Jimmy and MJ leaving the plane) 

38:38 Safechuck: By that time you are already best buddies, so it is like two friends going on an adventure, or thing like that (bus Caetano arrives at a hotel). People are going off and are doing normal things when they travel. You are just a lot of time spending in a hotel room with him (French flag is hanging on the hotel) and the hotel rooms are the President’s suites, so they are quite large, so there is lots of room to play, so you just grow closer (photo of MJ and Jimmy smiling and shaking hands). I remember we would fall asleep together and then I would wake up and he would be in another room, and I would be hurt that he is in another room. So I’d ask him to stay (music).

39:30 Stephanie Safechuck: It seems like it was a natural thing that happened. My husband and I had to have said, “Yes, you should go sleep with Michael”.

39:40 (a beautiful drone footage of Paris by night, violin playing)

Safechuck: In Paris he introduced me to masturbation and that’s how it started (another footage of Paris by night, violin playing).

40:03 Safechuck (very slowly): Michael and I were in his room. He set it up like “I’m going to show you something everybody else does, and you’ll really enjoy it”. He is teaching you something new. Then I remember my penis swelling up because I did it so much the first time. I must have done it a few times. I remember dripping my penis in warm water, Michael filled the cup with water. It was hard to pee. 

40:40 Safechuck: I don’t have any unpleasant memories other than not being able to pee. (photo of MJ looking at Jimmy) It felt like your bonding in a way. It started like a couple relationship.

41:04 Stephanie Safechuck: He was with Michael for 24/7. I would go visit Jimmy, make sure he was okay, but Jimmy was always, “You can go, mom”.  He didn’t want me there. I missed him, I really missed my son, not being with him.

41:20 Safechuck: Michael would like it if you would bend over and like spread open your cheeks. That’s what he liked. And then he would masturbate (a darkened photo of MJ in bed). He liked if I rubbed his nipples. So we would do stuff and in the end when he wanted to ejaculate he would finish himself (photo of MJ with a toy on his shoulder).

42:00 Stephanie Safechuck: Our room started to get further and further away from Michael’s room. And when I asked about it we were not even on the same floor now – in Paris. And I asked them and they said, “We couldn’t get a suite close to Michael, there were no suites available. This is where we could get you the nicest room”. That made sense to me, so okay. But in Germany we were really far away from them. And same thing, “We couldn’t get you a suite near them”.

The above is pure fiction where every word and every shot is a big lie.

Why so?

Look at Safechuck’s mother, for example. According to her when they arrived in Paris after that long tour of theirs the parents’ room “started to get further and further away from Michael’s room.” This is meant to imply that before Paris the parents could have access to their son, but in Paris things changed for the worse.

FORGET about it. NONE of it is true.

According to Safechuck’s own lawsuit Paris was the first city where they joined Michael Jackson on tour (in late June 1988). So the parents’ room could not “get further and further away” from Michael’s room for the simple reason that the family had only just arrived.

By then Jimmy and MJ had not yet developed a close friendship yet, because they had met on rare occasions only.

The last time they met before the Safechucks arrived in Paris was in May that year when Michael moved to Neverland during a short break between the legs of the tour and invited the Safechuck family to show them the newly acquired property. The visit was nothing intimate as Safechuck didn’t even stay in Michael’s room (according to his own mother who said that sleepovers began only on the tour) and certainly no alleged molestation took place (according to Safechuck himself who said that it began only in Paris).

So judging by their own story as soon as the Safechucks joined Michael Jackson in Paris all those activities started immediately, and this makes a very big contrast with the picture Dan Reed portrays to his viewers.

Now, even if you believe Safechuck’s tale, just ask yourself a question – why do all of them lie about the succession of those events?

Safechuck’s mother lies that by the time they arrived in Paris “their room began to get further and further from Michael’s room” and this is where she finally agreed to allow Jimmy to stay with Michael because by that time “it looked so natural”.

Safechuck lies that prior to Paris they danced every night and sometimes fell asleep together and the next morning Michael was in another room and it “hurt” him so much that he asked Michael to stay. He lies that when they arrived in Paris they were already the best buddies, and this is why it didn’t take him by surprise when MJ allegedly taught him a “new thing”, “dripped his penis” in warm water, “spread his cheeks”, and so on. Imagine all of it happening to you on your first day of the tour and you will realize why Dan Reed had to “correct” Safechuck’s timeline by his thorough editing.

And Dan Reed also lies to his viewers by making all those “corrections” to the timeline. First he shows them in concert after concert in Europe, Japan and many other places after which “one day” they arrive in Paris and this is where the whole thing allegedly starts.

Haven’t you had enough of their lies? And how can you believe these people’s further claims if they tell elaborate lies even about the succession of those fictional events?

Moreover the obvious truth these people do not tell you is that after Safechuck joined MJ in Paris the first thing they did was rehearsing in order to synchronize their dance moves before ever going on stage together. When you look at their concert footage what really strikes you is that their dance moves are very well synchronized and well-rehearsed, and without much training (certainly in Michael’s hotel room) this would have been impossible.

Then came the following:

  • After Paris came approximately 20 more concerts in Europe where Safechuck indeed took part.
  • In August 1988 he returned home before school began while Michael continued with the tour.
  • At the end of August Michael was joined by his mother Katherine (in London they went to the Madame Tussauds museum together).
  • On September 12 both of them went back to Los Angeles where Michael took her directly to his new home at Neverland, apparently to show her his new property.
  • Two weeks later, on September 26 Michael Jackson went on a tour again – this time in North America.
  • The last concert in the US was on November 13, 1988.
  • After a short break Michael was already in Japan (December 9-26) where Safechuck joined him again for several concerts during his Christmas holiday.
  • After that, on January 16-26, 1989 Michael gave five more concerts in Los Angeles, US, and this is where the Bad tour finally ended.

So no matter what impression you get from Safehuck’s seemingly continuous story the correct timeline says that Safechuck joined Michael on occasions only, and his tour with Michael certainly not continued but started in Paris, where the alleged activities just struck out of the blue.

After brainwashing the viewers about the timeline Dan Reeds continues his drama by contrasting Safechuck’s horrid tales with his mother’s “naïve” story that they were “just playing games, doing kid stuff and reading poetry”.

The poetry point is actually absolutely correct because Michael was indeed an avid reader of Sufi’s ancient poems and usually read them after his concerts to bring his adrenalin down (Deepak Chopra was a witness to it, see this post for details). Reading was also surely done before the concert as on the day of the show Michael never talked and spared his voice (as Debbie Rowe said at the AEG trial).

Now that you will proceed to Safehuck’s graphic descriptions just keep in mind that all throughout his narration Safechuck speaks in exactly the same voice as before and the same vague smile on his face. There isn’t a single sign of embarrassment, worry or humiliation in his demeanor – just a somewhat weird and even playful look on his face, especially when he claims that there was nothing not to like about the alleged sex.

42:49 (photos of MJ and Jimmy sitting on a bed in Michael Jackson’s trailer which Safechuck visited in March 1988 during the filming of the Speed Demon video – even according to Safechuck’s own complaint the alleged abuse had not yet started then, so Dan Reeds cheats on us here again (see the discussion in the comments for details).

Safechuck: He would run drills with me where he would be in the hotel room and he would pretend that somebody would be coming in and you need to get dressed as fast as possible without making noise. So not being caught was just fundamental (another home photo, hardly a President’s suite). It was very much a secret and he would tell me that if anybody would find out, his life would be over, and my life would be over. And that’s something he tells you over and over again.

43:15 (footage of Jimmy and MJ leaving the hotel and getting into a car, piano music) And French kissing. He said I introduced that to him (footage of Jimmy happily jumping by MJ’s side) and it evolved from like French kissing to kissing different parts of the body. And then finally like kissing the genitals. He started with like “Can I kiss it?”  I remember one time I was sleeping and I woke up and Michael said that he had performed oral sex on me while I was sleeping. I said like, “Okay”. 

44:23 Stephanie Safechuck: I wondered what was going on in the room, (laughing) I would go to the door, try to listen, hear the conversation was going on and sneak away. I wasn’t worried that anything was going on. I guess I was more curious what they were doing there.

Dan Reed: What were they doing?

Stephanie Safechuck: Playing, reading. Michael is reading really good books. He’d read poems to him. Just kid things. They were just doing kid things.

44:58 Safechuck (smiling): He’d actually like ejaculate, there would be this like lubricant that would sort of leak out.

Dan Reed: From you?

Safechuck: From me, yeah. Michael would ejaculate (photo of MJ and Jimmy, MJ’s eyes have a piercing photoshopped look). He says that I was his first sexual experience (quiet music). And he would say to me all the time – he is the biggest entertainer, and he is the creative genius. And that you are special. What’s not to like? (queer smile on his face)

45:45 Stephanie Safechuck: Michael would always hold Jimmy’s hand (footage of MJ with a boy not holding hands) And he said. “Would you talk to Jimmy about holding my hand?” And people are going to have a wrong impression. You know how people think. They are going to think something nasty about it. Nothing is going on, but this is going to look like something is going on.

46:15 Safechuck: Myself and Michael would scratch each other here on the palms when holding the hands, and that meant like you are thinking of them – sexually. There are no thoughts of this is wrong, nothing like that. Just very accepted way of expressing your love. That’s what he would say.

46:40 (drone footage of Simi Valley) Stephanie Safechuck: He was very close to us, seeing us every day, staying at our home, we were the first guests he had to go to Neverland. I actually have the brochure that they use to market it, sell it (leafing through the album).

47:07 Safechuck (music): He said I’m purchasing house, it is going to be yours, like this place is for you. (photos of Neverland). Me and Michael would be a lot together, like for a week at a time (music, aerial view of Neverland).

47:20 Stephanie Safechuck: His property was massive, so nobody was near. The next ranch was quite away. They have the most beautiful guest rooms. This was the room I chose (points to the album). I loved this room. You could stay at any guest room you wanted and Jimmy stayed with Michael in the big house.  (Photo of the kitchen).  We had people cooking for us. He had a beautiful wine cellar, really good wine, champagne, there was something I enjoyed. It was a fairy tale – every night.

47:57 Safechuck: The routine was – we would get a blanket and lie down on the floor inside of a closet, next to his main bed, so that we could close the doors and have several sort of doors people had to go through (photo of door with locks on it). That’s the hall that leads to his room (footage of the hall). There were bells so that you can have a moment and hear them trip and at least alarm him that the people are coming.

Sorry to interrupt again, but this closet thing is ridiculous – it is enough to look at the picture of Michael’s quarters to see it. First comes Michael’s bedroom, then a corridor to the so-called “gents” bathroom, then the stairs to the second floor bedroom and then a closet with pillows, blankets, towels, etc.  A similar corridor is on the other side of the bedroom, which had another closet for MJ’s clothes and a walk-in safe at the far corner of it (built by the previous owner of course).

But Safechuck is talking about the closet with pillows in it. Yes, there are two more doors before you enter that closet but if the bell rings when somebody approaches the bedroom you don’t have to close the doors, do you? In fact, closing the doors is even less effective as they can mute the sound of the bell. And if the bedroom door is locked, closing two doors inside the bedroom quarters is totally unnecessary. So the bedroom was not locked? But why does Dan Reed focus viewers’ attention on the locks then?

Before you read the next fragment there are a few more things that need to be clarified. Safechuck speaks there about his numerous visits to Neverland and the various places the alleged “sex” took place.

To be able to spot his lies there you first need to know 1) how little time during the alleged 1988-1992 period of “molestation” Michael spent at Neverland and the fact that 2) most of the buildings where the alleged “sex” took place were simply not there at the time when Safechuck visited Neverland.

Joseph Marcus, the ranch manager who worked at the ranch since the previous owner, testified in 2005 that originally the ranch had only the main residence, the guesthouse with its four units, the arcade building (near the pool) and the office building with a garage (adjacent to the main residence):

5   … Now, did the main building —

6   the main buildings, which would be the residence

7   itself, the portion attached to it that now has the

8   garage and Mr. Jackson’s office in it, the

9   guesthouse with the four guest units and the arcade

10   building, were those buildings all there when it was

11   Sycamore Valley Ranch?

12       A.  Yes.

After purchasing the ranch Michael Jackson added a lot of facilities there, which included (among other things) the theater, train station, train depot and the trains, the amusement park with a teepee area to it and a castle.

18       Q.  Since Mr. Jackson purchased the property,

19   have there been improvements to the property?

20       A.  Yes.

21       Q.  Can you tell us what improvements?

22       A.  The number one main improvement would be the

23   trains.  There are two trains.  There’s a steam

24   train as well as a 24-gauge train.  There’s also an

25   amusement park, a zoo, a theater, the train depot.

26   There’s a teepee area that is also a water fort

27   area.

All of the above had to be mentioned because Safechuck called these areas the places where they allegedly “had sex”. Imagine “sex” in the places that were not even there at the time described by Safechuck and that will be the end of the vaudeville they are playing to us here.

More about those buildings later – now let’s look at the amount of time Michael spent at Neverland during that period.

From Mike Smallcombe, MJ’s biographer we learn that after his Bad tour finished Michael stayed at the ranch for four months (February -May 1989) – he was having a rest and writing new songs. But in June 1989 he was already in Los Angeles, beginning to record there and staying in his Hideout there to spare himself a 100-mile trip to Neverland.

Here are the details from Mike Smallcombe’s article about making the Dangerous album.

“Inspired by seeing the world, Michael had been writing songs while spending time at his ranch after the Bad Tour. Forger said Michael returned from his tour with certain impressions. “His social commentary kicked up a notch or two,” he said. The most prominent of these were later titled ‘They Don’t Care About Us’ and ‘Earth Song’. Michael and Forger began working on these tracks in Westlake’s Studio C on Santa Monica Boulevard in June 1989.”

…In the summer of 1989, after a few months of rest at Neverland, Michael returned to the studio to begin recording new material for Decade. With the ranch over 100 miles away, Michael would mostly stay at his secret three-storey condominium in Century City – which he called the ‘Hideout’ – whenever he was working in Los Angeles.

In the fall of 1989, Michael and his team began working on another environmental awareness anthem, ‘Heal the World’.  In early November Michael received a visit at the studio from a long-time friend, Buz Kohan, who was trying to persuade him to perform at an allstar tribute to Sammy Davis Jr’s 60 years in show business [ ] which was being taped for broadcast on November 13 at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles.

At the time, Michael was in extreme pain from the Pepsi commercial accident when his hair caught on fire. Kohan and Schlatter hadn’t realised just how much distress Michael was in. “He took us into a back bathroom at the studio and asked us to feel his head,” Kohan recalls. “He told me he was in constant pain and on painkillers. Because of this, he truly didn’t know whether he would be able to perform at all.” [ ] I said to Michael, ‘This man, whether you are aware of it or not, has done so much for you, and if you pass up this last chance to say thank you, you will never forgive yourself ’.”

Everything then went into gear to prepare for the dress rehearsal, which by then was less than 12 hours away. [ ] here he was, going on stage before an audience of millions to perform a song he had never sung before, which had an orchestration he would hear for the first time on the afternoon of the show. It was so out of character for him, but to his everlasting credit, he set the wheels in motion and went home with a piano track I made on a small cassette recorder to learn the song.”

Between November 1989 and January 1990, Michael and the crew switched from Westlake to the Record One studio complex, located in Sherman Oaks in the San Fernando Valley. They had exclusive 24-hour access to the studio, costing an estimated $4,000 a day. Matt Forger said at the time they required two studio rooms full time for a year, as Michael was entertaining the idea of recording a full album of new material rather than releasing Decade.

But by March 1990 Michael was still unsure about whether to go through with the Decade project – now due in the fall – or record a whole new album.  Michael was also going through personal difficulties. In April a close friend of his, Ryan White, died from AIDS complications at the age of 18. His grandmother Martha Bridges also died a month later, as did one of his idols, Sammy Davis Jr.

On June 3, Michael was admitted to St. John’s Hospital in Los Angeles with chest pains. Tests later traced the pains to inflammation of rib cage cartilage. Although Michael was released from hospital five days later, the illness kept him out of the studio for several weeks.

In the summer of 1990, Michael finally decided to shelve the Decade project in favour of an album of new material, due to an avalanche of song ideas. “Michael simply wasn’t interested in old material, he wanted to keep creating,” Matt Forger said. David Geffen was also said to have influenced the decision. The album was pencilled in for a January 1991 release. Once he recovered from his illness, Michael resumed work in the studio.

Michael and young producer Bryan Loren spent much time together outside of the studio; the producer was a regular visitor to both Neverland and Michael’s Hideout in Century City. “I remember once being on the 101 freeway coming from the Hideout on the way to the studio in my car, with Michael in my passenger seat,” Loren recalls. “At some point, a man driving on the passenger side of my car looks in the window at Mike, curly hair and fedora in tow. Does a double-take and shrugs his shoulders as if to say ‘Nah, couldn’t be’. Now that was funny.”

Bill Bottrell: “Michael was really sweet, nice, and looked me in the eye whenever we spoke. I liked that. He was definitely a fourteen-year-old wrapped in a thirty year-old body.”

By late 1990, Michael had been working on new music for 18 months, but he still wasn’t satisfied with the sound of some of the material.

An important note to add here is that sometime within that period Michael must have had an operation on his head with a balloon stitched into his scalp, because by November 1989 he was in very much pain as Buz Kohan described it.

On December 28, 1989 Michael invited his friend Ryan White, a young victim of AIDS to spend a week at Neverland together with Michael.

More visitors came at the end of January 1990 and these were the Robsons from Australia. They came with the Johnny Young Talent dance group to celebrate Australia day at Disneyland (January 26th). A week later they finally managed to contact Michael Jackson and were invited to spend a weekend at Neverland (and stayed there for two weekends).

Add to it that besides the new album in February-May 1990 Michael also worked on the so-called secret Project M for Disney (the script of a fake Peter Pan movie, never meant to be made from its very inception) and scriptwriter Darlene Craviotto visited him at various places whenever Michael had a single spare moment.

Summing up all of the above you will realize that Michael had absolutely no time for the ‘intense” relationship with Safechuck. If they met it was for a weekend or two – same as for all other people who also came to Neverland to spend an occasional weekend there.

In June 1990, while still in hospital Michael began thinking of full renovation of the Neverland ranch, adding new buildings and a theme park to it.

In late summer/fall of 1990 the train rails began to be installed with all the required facilities added later (the main train station, local train stations over the whole ranch and a depot where the trains were maintained). Another team began working on the amusement park, with a castle near the carousel and an Indian village with teepees (also mentioned by Safechuck as a scene of crime).

All throughout that time Neverland ranch was a beehive of workers, according to the main contractor of the project Rob Swinson (imagine “having sex” with a beehive of workers all around you).

Rob Swinson recalls in his book “Maker of Dreams: Creating Michael Jackson’s Neverland Valley Park”:

“Soon after Neverland Valley Ranch  became a beehive of workers. The contractor’s team was busy pouring and stamping concrete walking areas, installing fences for rides and erecting the first buildings.

One of my teams was busily installing a 2 ½ mile track layout that reached the far points of the valley and incorporated a look for turning around at each end. I personally designed the train’s route so it would allow Michael in the future to transport his guests as old-time train passengers riding to various places of interest he would create around the ranch. These later attractions were not yet built nor even conceived of for the most part.

The amusement park was definitely “a project in progress” that eventually expanded to include other features such as a nearby Indian campground with carpeted teepees and music speakers, [] a luxurious 50+ seat theater complete with two “viewing beds” at the rear where special guests like Liz Taylor would come to watch movies, [] a train barn for storage and maintenance.

While the construction work was in progress Michael Jackson was still working in Los Angeles on the Dangerous album and spent much of his time outside the ranch. It is also interesting that in the year 1991 he was seen mostly with Macaulay Culkin and other people (and not Safehuck).

In June 1991 Michael went with Macaulay and his friends to Bermuda and then to Disneyland. In July he was seen with Emmanuel Lewis at the Community Youth Sports &Arts Foundation Center in LA. Also in July he gathered the whole Jackson family at Neverland to celebrate Joy Jackson Day and presented him with a boat. In August the Culkins celebrated at Neverland Macaulay’s birthday. In October Liz Taylor married there Larry Florensky. In November 1991 the Dangerous album was released and Michael was at last free to go back to his ranch.

In  February 1992 Michael was seen travelling with Brett Barnes – they went to Africa and then to London where they visited Benny Hill in hospital. In March he filmed the “In The Closet” video and in April 1992 he began filming “Jam” in Chicago with the participation of Michael Jordan and young dancers Brett Barnes and Wade Robson, and it is only at this point that we finally hear about Safechuck. Safechuck’s lawsuit says that during the filming of Jam he as a 14 year-old boy had to be put back on a plane as he was extremely jealous of Brett Barnes and sobbed that Michael spent more time with Barnes than him.

You will ask about the reason why Michael preferred Brett Barnes? Well, Michael invited those young dancers to Chicago to work with him on the Jam video. And looking at how tall Safechuck already was, you will realize that he was unfit for the company of younger children dancing in Michael’s “Jam”.

MJ and Wade Robson (left), Brett Barnes (middle), James Safehuck (right) on the Jam video set

Michael certainly had no time to argue with Safechuck and explain to him why he couldn’t let him work on that video – hence all the sobbing, jealousy and going mad with Michael on Safechuck’s part.

Now he is telling us that this was when he was replaced by Brett Barnes (in the most sinister meaning of this word of course), but the reason for that was primarily connected with their joint work – from the very start of it his friendship with Safechuck was more like a working relationship (same as with Robson) and at a certain point this cooperation ended which turned into a complete shock for Safechuck. Michael continued to be his friend, he still called him and even paid for his endeavors in filming, but there were no more tours, no concerts and no videos, and this became an extremely sore point for Safechuck.

After so long an introduction to the final fragment here it is at last:

48:30 Safechuck: There was like kissing, I think, just kind of rubbing on each other, and then (very slowly, as if recollecting) oral sex and then he would want me to suck his nipples and then he would finish himself (quiet music).

48:50 He also had like an Indian fort (photo), teepees and so we would lie down on sleeping bags, have snacks and then have sexual relations there (quiet music)

49:09 There is also a game room (photo) and then upstairs in the arcade there was another room and it had a bed in there, we would go into that room and have sex there.  (View of the main house) There is an attic, a third floor attic, which was kind of secluded, like you can really get there through steep stairs, you could tell if somebody was coming (music), so we would go in there and have sex. There’s toys everywhere, things to do, so they kind of mix together.

49:55 He had another house far away from the main house, and there he had a lot of memorabilia, his jackets, like the Grammies, like the rhinestone glove, and it was far away from people and you could see somebody was driving up that narrow road (music).  And then we would have sex there too .

50:20 The movie theater had these two like private rooms, and through big glass windows you can see theater and so we would have sex in those rooms (quiet music) It was a bit dangerous, but there was a bit of excitement there.

50:38  Stephanie Safechuck: So I didn’t tell him I was coming, and the door was locked. You have to knock loud because the movie is on. He came down and unlocked it and made some excuses. He didn’t mean to lock the door, he didn’t know the door is locked – that’s what he told me.  And they were in the bed, they were clothed. I still didn’t think anything.

51:14 Safechuck: There was a castle on the theme park and upstairs was a bedroom. You could see that somebody was coming. It had just a small bed and up there we would have sex.

51:25 (photo of Jimmy in the pool) The pool and the Jacuzzi – oral sex. Like holding your breath and going down, kind like a game (quiet music)

51:40 (photo of train station) At the train station there is a room upstairs and we would have there sex too (music). It happened every day. It sounds sick but it is kind of like you are first dating somebody and then you do a lot of it (smiles). So it is very much like that (music).

52:14 At the same time the sexual relationship is growing (photo of MJ and the whole family) he is working on you pushing you away from your parents, pushing you away from everybody else and it feels more like (scratches his neck), like you and him.

52:34 (photo of mom and dad, music)

Stephanie Safechuck: My husband and I are still together, however we have separate bedrooms. But our marriage was so bad, the whole situation, and I don’t even think my son knew because my son was so busy having fun – he didn’t know that Jim and I were in separate bedrooms, barely getting along.

53:05 Safechuck: We would listen to people’s phone calls. He would eavesdrop on my parents, sometimes they were fighting and he would tell me, “Look how mean your mom is, and how evil women are”. But at the time you just hear your mom yelling at your dad and Michael feeds into that.

53:25 (footage of MJ going into concert)

Safechuck: Your love for him is growing and relationships with other people are getting less.

53:35 Ronald Reagan: “Your success is an American dream come true.” (footage of MJ with Prince Charles and Princess Diana)

Safechuck: It’s constantly reinforced by everybody else in the world, so it is really an intense feeling that everybody else is loving him, so everybody is on board.  So it is very powerful.

53:55 Safechuck (his legs crossed and moving his toes back and forth) You start to think that your parents are bad and that Michael is good. (weird look on his face).

54:00 (a view of a big city, piano playing) Newscaster: “We might not have Michael Jackson on the program tonight, but we have the next best thing – Wade Robson.”

54:15 (Wade dances to MJ’s music, Wade’s mom and dad sit on a couch)

Newscaster: Joy and Dennis Robson are suitably proud of their son.

Father Dennis:” Everything he does, we haven’t taught him anything. The whole act that he does, it is all himself. Nobody taught him anything”

54:45 Little Wade: I started to like Michael, I started copying his moves, and then I started dancing.

Joy Robson: If he wanted to stop, there’d be no pressure. If that’s what he wants to do, that’s fine. 

Little Wade: I want to be a star.

55:20 Robson: The audition for the dance company in Brisbane, called the Johnny Young Talent School. This was jazz dance company, but I showed up as Michael Jackson, in the full outfit again. And they wanted me in the company, and I got in the company and I became their Michael Jackson. We started performing at malls and that kind of things, pretty constantly, every weekend at least.

55:50 Shane Robson: He had the full circles (laughs) (Wade dances)

56:15 Joy Robson: Every shot I did was around Wade. It was amazing how it would work into every scenario, even Christmas.

56:35 And then they announced that they are all going to dance in Disneyland for Australia day (aerial view of a big city)

56:45 Chantal Robson: Because it was a big America trip obviously my mom and my dad were going to go, and then my grandparents came as well.

56:55 Grandmother: My name is Lorraine Jean Cullen, and I am Wade Robson’s grandmother (smiles). He copied just all those steps, Michael Jackson did (photo of Wade) and he would be forever dancing, no matter where he was. It was my sort of dancing (laughs). We just all went on a plane together (aerial view of a big city) and we went to Disneyland.

January 1990 (music)

57:30 Chantal Robson: It was like hundreds of kids, like going to America for the first time. (photo of dad, mom, Wade and Chantal)

 Joy Robson: Michael had said, “If you ever come to America, look me up.” Oh, sure (sarcastically), you look him up in White pages and find him. I started calling around some of the television shows Wade had been on trying to find a number to contact Michael and we got passed around, passed around, passed around. Finally, someone gave me a number of Michael’s personal assistant. So we called her and she said, “Let me talk to Michael and I will call you back”. She called back and Michael remembered Wade and wanted to meet us. And asked us if we would meet him at Sherman Oaks at Record One where he was recording his new album (enthusiastic music, drone footage).

58:36 Robson: The impossible. You just don’t come to America and just call some numbers and get in contact with Michael Jackson somehow. And then you’re going to see him again. It was not just a normal scenario (drone footage, music).

58:55 Chantal Robson: My mom, my dad, myself and Wade, all went to Record One and that’s the first time I had actually met Michael (photo of them in the studio)

59:08 Robson: He was doing some sort of a photo shoot in the lobby area. My mother, father and sister got for a group photo with Michael and then we took some shots alone. I was in a full custom Smooth Criminal outfit (photo of MJ and Wade). We showed him some tapes of dances, performances, things I’ve been doing over the last two years that he wanted to see. I think it was a Friday and he said, “Do you and the family, do you want to come to Neverland for the weekend?” (music)

Music, the road, overview of the landscape.

1:00:05 Robson: Michael asked if me and my sister wanted to drive with him and of course I did. Then my parents and grandparents would follow behind (music). I remember him playing us some music, unreleased music. Just getting it, like secret access to him and to his world. 

1:00:30 Joy Robson: It was sort of surreal for us. The Hollywood and all this entertainment business was on another planet from where we were (more drone footage, music)

1:00:45 Robson: As we were getting closer and closer to Neverland, Michael was telling us, “Just fifteen more minutes, just ten more minutes”. The excitement was really building.

1:00:55 Grandma (aerial view of the gate): The guards came out and wanted to make sure that we didn’t have any cameras or anything out there, and it was a bit intimidating. I hadn’t met any celebrities ever and was quite lost. But my husband said, “yes” (smiles) 

1:01:20 Joy Robson: It’s like a fairy land, beautiful lakes, all lit up and the house is all lit up. It was just amazing.

As soon as you pull there, there is music going, there are flowers everywhere. You felt like you are driving into this little heaven. The car pulls up and there is everybody that works kind of line up ready to greet you. I’ve never been in that type of world before (music), such a big house – it was magical.

1:01:55 Robson: We were all tripping out on this place, just out of a story book, a fairy tale  (violin playing, the inside of the theater is shown with MJ dancing on its screen).

1:02:10 Joy Robson: Michael showed us around the house, at that time he only had the theater, he didn’t have all the other things. It’s like a child’s dream come true (violin playing), candy, you just help yourself to ice-cream and all the chocolates in the world, and pop corn and then the beautiful theater.

What a marvellous testimony from Joy Robson that at the time they were at Neverland in January 1990 the only new addition to the original ranch was the theater!  And this means that almost two years after Safechuck first went to Neverland (in 1988) there was next to nothing of what Safechuck is describing to us now.

The train station where they “had sex” and where “it happened every day” according to Safechuck, simply did not exist at the time he visited Neverland.

MJ fans have recently discovered proof that the train station was finished only in 1994 when according to Safechuck’s own claims he was long gone from Michael Jackson’s life.

Here is an AP image of the train station dated December 1993 and it shows that at that time the station was still under construction:

And here is the Indian village with its teepees which, as Joy Robson tells us was not yet there when they went to Neverland in 1990:

And here is the castle that was built around the time when the amusement park was constructed. And it had an office upstairs, and not a bedroom:

And here is the arcade building which was there when Michael purchased the ranch, but it has so open a structure that it is ridiculous to imagine that any “sex” could take place there without the beehive of workers or anyone else noticing it:

And as to the “sex” Safechuck allegedly had in the pool area in a recent conversation with Razorfist Brandi Jackson said that the pool (same as most of the ranch) was surrounded by surveillance cameras run for security reasons.

Brandi Jackson: They list the pool area as one…where the was a lot of abuse…[It’s] completely surrounded by cameras. The entire ranch has cameras…there’s cameras everywhere and it’s run by a massive amount of security guards.

And here is Brad Sundberg who explains to us why there were so many beds scattered all over the ranch and why they were found in most unexpected places there.

His story makes it clear that those beds were added much later, when the number of guests at Neverland required more room for sleep and bedrooms had to be arranged even at the train station. None of those bedrooms were initially planned and that is why the train station, for example, lacked even such basic facility as a bathroom and if the guests wanted to use a bathroom in the middle of the night they had to walk to the main residence.

 Brad:  There was something I was going to mention about the big train station a few minutes ago. Michael would have huge groups of guests, especially if his whole family came up. The ranch house itself was pretty funny because I think it only had four bedrooms, maybe five. There weren’t that many rooms. And there were only like five guest houses. Well, his family is huge, and then he’s going to have friends and different people. So [Brad] Buxer told me that they would actually have people sleep in the train station.

Willa: Really?

Brad: Oh, they’d sleep everywhere! They’d sleep in the theater – they’d be all over the place. But the train station was really just supposed to be a train station. There was never any forethought of needing beds in there. So I don’t know if they’d sleep on air mattresses or something. But there was no bathroom! And so Buxer talks about … I don’t know if it was the brothers, Tito or whoever – you know, if you wake up in the middle of the night you’d have to walk all the way down to the house to use the bathroom. Nobody ever thought about, gee, you might want to put a bathroom in here because people might sleep here. It was just supposed to be, come in, get some candy, and get on the train.


At the last minute news arrived that Mike Smallcombe found that the permit for constructing the train station was obtained only in September 1993.

Twitter immediately reacted to it:

Mike Smallcombe: In the last couple of hours I’ve been given access to the Santa Barbara County construction permits for the Neverland train station by my source – approved Sept 2, 1993

A somewhat sarcastic tweet came from a MJ supporter: “Look who decided to report our train station story”.

James Safechuck’s Michael Jackson abuse claims ‘exposed as pure fiction’

James BrinsfordOvernight Showbiz/TV Reporter

  • 05:07, 30 MAR 2019

James Safechuck’s claims of sexual abuse at the hands of Michael Jackson have been ‘exposed as lies’, according to a biographer.

Mike Smallcombe claims the accuser’s story of being abused in Neverland’s train station cannot be true as it was built two years after he said the assaults stopped.

Mr Smallcombe claims by looking into accusations made on the HBO documentary Leaving Neverland he has uncovered a significant flaw.

When describing the details of the abuse, Mr Safechuck alleges he was assaulted in an upstairs room in Neverland’s train station, which many will recognise because of its floral clock.

But Mr Smallcombe says this is seemingly impossible, as Mr Safechuck claimed in his lawsuit against Jackson’s Estate that he was abused from 1988 until 1992, when he was 14.

Mr Smallcombe told Mirror Online: “The deficiency in Safechuck’s story is this – construction on Neverland’s train station didn’t start until the latter part of 1993, and it didn’t open until the first part of 1994, when Safechuck was 16.

“So abuse in the train station wasn’t possible if the abuse stopped in 1992, as he claims in his testimony, as it didn’t even exist then. There’s a two year difference.”

Jacko was apparently away on the Dangerous Tour and then in rehab in London the entire time the train station was being constructed in 1993.

Mr Smallcombe added: “And then between February 1994 and December 1994, Jackson was living in Trump Tower in New York recording his HIStory album, and only making the odd trip abroad.

“Once to get married to Lisa Marie Presley. The train station opened in 1994, while Jackson was living on the other side of the country.

“The latter point is, by the time Jackson was at Neverland and the train station was actually open, it was early 1995, three years after Safechuck said the abuse stopped.

“And by then Safechuck was 17, and on the cusp of adulthood.”

Speaking to Mirror Online last week, Mr Smallcombe also claimed that Mr Safechuck lied about refusing to testify for Jackson in his 2005 trial.

It was reported that a judge banned all evidence about Mr Safechuck from the courtroom early on in the trial, as it was unreliable.

A private investigator who worked on the trial, allegedly added that Mr Safechuck was a ‘nonentity’ in the case from the beginning.

Only imagine how many more magical discoveries are awaiting the media about Michael Jackson with every new coming day. We are living in a miraculous age when it is ordinary people who provide the media with facts and not the other way about.


Crista has sent us more of her marvellous drawings 🙂 Here is one more – the text is:

Robson: “Really, dude? In a trainstation that was built 2 years later??”

Safechuck: “Oh, shut up!”

Crista's picture of Robson and Reed 1

56 Comments leave one →
  1. vulcan permalink
    February 14, 2020 3:04 am

    @Common Sense

    Excuse me, but Robsons and Safechucks wanted their kids to be
    in the entertainment business not Jackson. They both approached
    Jackson to use him as a jumping board for Wade’s and Jimmy’s
    career. So blame the parents and the boys because they wanted
    to be in Hollywood. MJ just helped them giving them what they
    wanted. Harvey Weistein has 80+ accusers and most of them
    cannot make money with their claims. None of them testified
    under oath that they were never abused and then changed
    their story after Weinstein died when they faced financial problems
    None of them has 100s of holes in their stories like in the
    MJ allegations. None of them claimed abuse in a building
    that did not even exist yet. Weinstein is guilty. Jackson
    was innocent. As for if it was anyone else, if it was anyone else
    Robsons Safechucks wouldn’t have wanted to get to Jackson
    in the first place, Wade and James wouldn’t have wanted to
    sleep in his room in the first place. Those things happened because
    Michael Jackson was Michael Jackson. you can’t compare him
    to anyone else. And Jackson never said that he allowed kids sleep
    in his room because he lost his childhood. He said that kids
    wanted to sleep there and he allowed it if it was OK with the parents
    because he saw nothing sexual about sharing his bed with someone.

    you just ignored the LITANY if evidence that these allegations are fabricated.
    Worse, they were fabricated by an actual pedo apologist , Victor Guteirrez
    so much that Safechuck has 23 parts of his story which echo the false claims
    in VG’s book. How do you explain that without admitting Safechuck is guilty
    of false accusations and perjuries since 2014?


  2. December 25, 2019 12:21 pm

    I highly recommend a new interview of Taj Jackson on December 22. It’s pretty long – over 4 hours, and I am still listening, but I already love it and Taj’s approach to his documentary. It is to be called ‘The Truth Runs Marathons’.

    Reflecting on 2019 Live with Taj Jackson (Square One, The Truth Runs Marathons, Hollywood, 2020)

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  3. December 24, 2019 5:01 pm

    “Are you planning on continuing this series debunking the Leaving Neverland documentary anytime soon?” – Anonymous


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  4. Anonymous permalink
    December 24, 2019 1:04 pm

    Hi Helena

    Are you planning on continuing this series debunking the Leaving Neverland documentary anytime soon?


  5. Jolie permalink
    October 5, 2019 11:10 pm

    For Helena & all Michael Jackson fans:

    “Square One: New Evidence in Michael Jackson Case | Full Documentary”
    by Danny Wu was just released on YouTube today (October 5, 2019)
    1 Hour 23 Minutes

    Interviews by Charles Thomson, Geraldine Hughes, Taj Jackson, among others.

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  6. October 2, 2019 8:43 am

    Some very good documentaries are being made in Michael’s defence and are causing quite a store amongst his fans and supporters. While that is great news, I would like to thank Helena and the other contributors of this awesome blog for putting in your time and tremendous research behind every post. You deserve a lot of accolade for your fabulous work. I have followed this blog for 7 years now and have gained tremendous insight into the many facets of Michael’s life.
    Thank you all. God bless you ❤️


  7. October 1, 2019 5:17 pm

    @Vindicatemj (Helena) I know I’m late to the gate, but Moonwalker premiered at the Canned Film Festival in France in May 1988. Michael was touring for most of that time before that, and certainly had no time to film a video that looks like a multi day shoot. I saw someone say he filmed Speed Demon on March 3, 1988, but that makes no sense since he had a concert in New York that night. Also, reviews were released for the film in December of 1987, so it’s safe to say that Speed Demon was filmed in late 1986 or sometime in 1987.


  8. September 18, 2019 2:38 pm

    Great post. Do you have any other ones you can put? I like it. 🙂


  9. May 31, 2019 6:49 pm

    “I recently gave an interview about Leaving Neverland, and it’s now on Youtube! ” sanemjfan

    David, a very good interview! Your arguments were very clear, but I am surprised by the interviewer. When you listen to these journalists it turns out that they know nothing about MJ (well, at least this one did want to know).
    But the feeling is still very strange – what’s so well-known to us is like some terra incognita to these people, as if all this time they’ve been living on an island.
    And thank you very much for your patience in answering all those questions. I would have flared up every five minutes with a counter question – how is it possible that you still don’t know it?

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  10. May 31, 2019 5:26 pm

    “Can you explain to me about this rumor that Georges St. Martin, writer of Boys will be boys would be a pseudonym for Martin Swithinbank, a famous participant of NAMBLA? I’ve never read anything about it, and I haven’t found a link that looks real to me either.” – Alisson Costa

    You‘ve never read anything about it.
    I’ve never read anything about it.
    And obviously Michael Jackson never read anything about it.
    I mean, how can any of us know who writes under what pseudonym and what the author’s real identity is unless we conduct a special investigation or are familiar with the other works of this person? Especially if there are no links to be found and no one really knows?

    If MJ’s haters use this argument against Michael all they prove is that they are very well familiar with this author. Generally readers don’t look up the full portfolio of each photographer who publishes photos in a book. And as far as I know this photographer was just one of many authors there.

    For Michael this was just a book. Moreover it was obviously a present because Michael signed and inscribed it. Does anyone sign and inscribe books before putting them on the shelf? Certainly not. So most probably his intention was to return the book to the one who gave it to him. However instead the book was locked in a file cabinet to which Blanca Francia had a key (and two years later, when she was no employee at Neverland, produced it to the police). The inscription on the book said:

    “Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys’ faces, this is the spirit of Boyhood. A life I never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children. MJ”

    People like Gutierrez certainly know who is who among the photographers listed there, but there was no way Michael could know it. And when he saw the photos of those boys on the beach his thoughts were in a totally different place. His inscription speaks for itself.

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  11. May 24, 2019 12:44 pm

    Take a look at what is happening with one of the big snakes the media should’ve been reporting and focusing on instead of dragging Michael once more:

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  12. Des permalink
    May 20, 2019 5:03 am

    Dear Helena,from the bottom of my heart I wish well,take care of your self.

    Liked by 1 person

  13. May 17, 2019 9:00 am

    I’ve just published a book debunking Leaving Neverland together with the 1993 and 2003-5 allegations

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  14. susannerb permalink
    May 17, 2019 8:51 am

    Thank you very much for your encouraging words. Unfortunately Helena is not well at the moment, she needs a break. But of course we will try and continue our work here as good as we can. More posts on the Leaving Neverland issue are planned. Thank you for staying with us.

    I would like to recommend this great article for reading, which was written by Brotha Wolf and submitted to the Daily Kos, but was censored there. Now it was reposted on MJJJP:

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  15. Battenburg permalink
    May 14, 2019 12:10 pm

    Ignore Mr so-called-Common Sense. He’s wallowing in his ignorance of MJ’s history.

    This site is superb. I’ve learned so much, and unlike a lot of sites that tell the “truth”, this one backs up everything it can with court documents, newspaper articles, transcripts, etc.

    I’m looking forward to part 3 of Leaving Neverland’s distortion debunked.

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  16. William King permalink
    May 13, 2019 10:05 pm

    @common sense A person who genuinely loves and cares about children. A man who is especially empathetic and compassionate, that’s who.

    Liked by 1 person

  17. May 13, 2019 6:36 am

    Can you explain to me about this rumor that Georges St. Martin, writer of Boys will be boys would be a pseudonym for Martin Swithinbank, a famous participant of NAMBLA? I’ve never read anything about it, and I haven’t found a link that looks real to me either. This might once again prove how obsessive haters are in trying to prove that Michael’s art books are evidence of his guilty.


  18. sanemjfan permalink
    May 11, 2019 6:00 pm

    I recently gave an interview about Leaving Neverland, and it’s now on Youtube!

    Liked by 1 person

  19. May 3, 2019 5:22 am

    @Common Sense:

    “what kind of adult would ever do the things that he did?”

    Which things? Spending time with children? Donating large sums of money to children’s causes? Buying a big ranch and building a paradise for children there? Demanding a Children’s Universal Bill of Rights? Correct, unfortunately not too many adults are doing these things!

    “who would behave the way that he did around children if they weren’t in it for nefarious reasons?”

    Behave which way? Playing with and listening to children like a kindergarten teacher? Hug them when they need it and teach them like a father?

    “It is utterly bizarre.”

    What exactly is bizarre? Dedicating money and time to children?

    “If this had been anyone else (an “average Joe”), no one on this planet would believe they were innocent.”

    Why? Because the above mentioned reasons make someone guilty? Of what?

    “all I see is a guilty man and a whole lot of people too ashamed and afraid to admit it”

    So everybody is guilty (of what?) who cares for children and spends time with them? Also male nursery school teachers?
    We are not ashamed and afraid of admitting somebody is guilty who is really guilty. But Michael Jackson is not! And 4 male liars in a whole life of a famous person, who was sued (unsuccessfully) by even more women claiming they had born his child, don’t prove guilt!

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  20. Common Sense permalink
    April 30, 2019 11:32 am

    Reading and watching all of this, I can’t help but think: what kind of adult would ever do the things that he did? Discounting the alleged abuse, who would behave the way that he did around children if they weren’t in it for nefarious reasons? It is utterly bizarre. If this had been anyone else (an “average Joe”), no one on this planet would believe they were innocent. Even using the “abused child reliving his childhood” with these kids, why would he ever want to put them in a position where they, too, could be exploited and abused by people in positions of power in Hollywood? The delusion displayed here is shocking. I’m all for proving his innocence, but all I see is a guilty man and a whole lot of people too ashamed and afraid to admit it. Let’s exonerate Harvey Weinstein while we’re at it.


  21. Alex permalink
    April 25, 2019 5:03 am

    Is there anything of Safechuck and Michael of the period 1990 until 1991? He suddenly becomes very vague. Even Robson claimed he never saw him until the Jam video in 1992. No wonder he got all those locations at Neverland wrong.


  22. April 12, 2019 6:27 am

    British press continues to publish details from the court cases, this time about Wade’s hidden emails and him trying to shop a book:

    So the facts continue to get out. God’s mills grind slowly, but they don’t stop.

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  23. Des permalink
    April 9, 2019 6:40 am

    Hi dear Helena,in the video in Michael’s bedroom I am sure I saw the Cascio kids and their mum sitting in the corner of the bed, and that’s how Michael’s nephew has described it in his interviews,that’s how I always pictured,brings back many memories from my childhood. A beautiful soul a beautiful man my inspiration in almost everything I am and do.

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  24. April 8, 2019 6:34 pm

    “I’m so tired of seeing people saying that Michael was only friends with little boys. I found a link regarding the subject” – Alisson Costa

    The link is excellent, so there is absolutely no need for me to write about Michael’s female kid friends. I have lots of other ideas to implement and too little time for it 🙂

    As to the celebrities supporting Michael I made a post about them nine years ago:

    A new list can be made only when people stop being afraid to go against the trend and when they speak their mind without any fear to be intimidated and harassed. In the current climate it is difficult to expect them to be that brave. Though cowardice is a big sin and each person is showing now his/her true worth.

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  25. April 8, 2019 5:41 pm

    “I have never seen this video before… it’s Michael’s bedroom, right? there is the image of jesus over the bed like in the oprah interview outtakes.” – Poly

    Poly, what a rare find – this is indeed a documentary! After seeing it we can really imagine what those stays in Michael’s room were like. I’ve counted at least 9 or 10 kids of both genders and various ages and at least one adult, all of them sitting on Michael’s bed. They obviously used the bed as the best seating place in the room. And Michael is sitting with two girls, by the way while one more little girl is standing.

    And yes, there is an image of Christ over his bed which no one has ever, ever told us about.

    And there are also parents standing there all around the bed. And even Michael’s housekeeper too. Fifteen, twenty people crammed into the little space we see in this video.

    In other houses big gatherings like that are usually arranged in the living room, dining room, or elsewhere – and certainly not in the bedroom. However for Michael and his guests his quarters were surely the center of the house, the main get-together place. And his bed was like a couch where everyone could sit and lie down. In short this video alone can tell us more about Michael’s idea of social life than anything else.

    It is impossible to explain Michael’s ways by the usual logic: “Bedroom? They all gather in Michael’s bedroom? Isn’t it improper to entertain guests in one’s bedroom?”

    However if we had a chance to ask Michael about it he would probably be very equally surprised – don’t we understand that the living room is full of statues and the like, and it is only in Michael’s quarters that they can throw pillows and really hang out without the fear of breaking anything? And that a bedtime story should be really listened to in the bedroom before everyone goes to sleep?

    You know, videos like that make me understand what Michael called by people being conditioned. We are indeed conditioned by certain social stereotypes and know what’s “proper” and what’s “improper”. And Michael simply didn’t know it and this is why his lifestyle shocked so many people.

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  26. MJJ permalink
    April 8, 2019 12:14 pm

    This is really random, but do you by any chance have a copy of all the rare footage and pics of MJ?


  27. April 7, 2019 4:15 pm

    Thanks for this site. It’s so informative, all I needed to know was that I found out about Michael’s innocence.

    I would like to give two suggestions of themes that you can make posts
    -About the celebrities who are supporting Michael publicly and believe he has a considerable number.
    -About the girls who were friends with Michael when they were little and they frequed Neverland. I’m so tired of seeing people saying that Michael was only friends with little boys. I found a link regarding the subject, but I know that this site has much more accesses.


  28. Poly permalink
    April 7, 2019 9:40 am

    I have never seen this video before… it’s Michael’s bedroom, right? there is the image of jesus over the bed like in the oprah interview outtakes.

    The daughter of one of the maids in Neverland said this in the comments section:

    LISSA BRISSE: Omg!!!!! Just seeing this video and I’m blown away. My mom, Judi, used to work as one of Michael’s housekeepers back in the mid 90s and as I am watching this I am hearing her voice in the background and I’m thinking, that can’t be her and sure enough! At 3:40 I see her for the first time with the white blouse and black sweater! Omg!!! And then at 7:30 one of the kids says her name… and then at 10:40 I see her again!!!!! My mom said she was always sad she never had a picture of her at Neverland because it wasn’t allowed, but here she is!!!! I’m so proud of her. She loved her job at Neverland and she loved serving Michael and his guests. I remember Mom telling me about Mother Goose coming to read stories and here she is! With my mom right there in the room! Makes my heart smile! ❤️🙏😊. We are so grateful for that time in our lives. I got to go to Neverland a few times and it was magical! God bless Michael for all the joy he brought to so many! Thank you for posting this! Very very special!!!!!!

    LISSA BRISSE:There is much to share about Mom’s experience with Michael and Neverland. She was there for 3 years in the mid 90s. It was a magical time. And yes, these allegations are so wrong. My mom knew those families and she said the “documentary” is such a farce and it saddens both of us that people can be so cruel! But… the truth will prevail. Michael’s light is too bright!

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  29. susannerb permalink
    April 6, 2019 4:48 am

    We at least have one German journalist of the SWR radio station who made a very objective commentary about Leaving Neverland, which was translated by Geraldine Blondeau into English. It’s worth to post it here:

    It’s important to say that SWR is not a private radio station but a state channel publicly funded. So this comes from a very serious media outlet and not from a tabloid or cable TV channel like Pro7, where Leaving Neverland will be aired today.

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  30. susannerb permalink
    April 3, 2019 1:46 pm

    The news about the inconsistencies in the LN mockumentary are spreading now in tabloids all over the world, like today in Germany’s biggest tabloid Bild. It’s absurd that we now have to count on tabloids for the world to learn about the lies told in this film. I don’t know if I like this or not. However, they may have the biggest audience, and I am grateful to Mike Smallcombe who managed to reach this amount of audiences. But some of the content now told was already on this blog years ago, for example in this post of Helena:
    I wonder if the mainstream media and especially the so-called serious media will degrade themselves and also report about the problems in the film, which had been told by fans before.


  31. pamee permalink
    April 2, 2019 1:36 pm

    Great article! you should send this info to Mj’s estate as well as Taj Jackson..

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  32. Poly permalink
    April 1, 2019 5:14 pm

    I’m glad I helped you 🙂


  33. April 1, 2019 1:12 pm

    “This is another great article by Raven Woods, in which she included her own abuse to explain that Robson and Safechuck are not credible, which certainly was not an easy decision.” – Susannerb

    Susanne, all Raven’s articles are very good but over here she surpassed herself.
    The article is AWESOME. She raised several major issues in connection with “Leaving Neverland” and each deserves a separate discussion. A nationwide discussion as well as interviews on TV and all media outlets.

    View at

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  34. April 1, 2019 8:43 am

    This is another great article by Raven Woods, in which she included her own abuse to explain that Robson and Safechuck are not credible, which certainly was not an easy decision.
    View at

    In accordance with Raven’s article let me just emphasize again one thing about the silly criticism of people before the airing of LN that MJ advocates should first watch the film before talking about it (when we already knew much of the accusations because we studied the court files). This is now even more silly in hindsight after we watched the film, because by watching the film MJ advocates found more inconsistencies than before, and now the film is even more discredited with the discrepancies and lies already spreading in the media. As one of the results several parts of the film were deleted before airing in Europe because MJ advocates had watched the film and brought attention to such conflicts.
    What we said before the airing of the film has been confirmed and even extended by the many mistakes and inconsistencies the accusers made alone in the timeline of events.
    So don’t tell us anymore to first watch the film. We did! And found much more crap!


  35. April 1, 2019 7:33 am

    I found out that his outfit apparently match the ‘chase scene’ and according to this book it was filmed at warner studios-L.A in March 1988 – Poly

    Poly, thank you for the book. It seems quite accurate and a great source of information. It says that the chase scene was shot two days after Michael appeared at the Grammy Awards ceremony in 1988. And the Grammies were on March 2nd, 1988 – which determines the beginning of shooting as March 4, 1988.

    This is before any alleged act claimed by Safechuck. Anyway, the point was just to say it was not at Safechuck’s house.

    Of course it is before any alleged act claimed by Safechuck, so regarding the timeline Dan Reed is cheating us again.
    But March 4, 1988 is very important in another respect. Look at the timeline:

    • On March 3, 4 and 5 Michael performed in New York as part of his Bad tour in North America.
    • Speed Demon was filmed exactly during those several days Michael spent in New York (later he moved on with his tour).
    • Safechuck says in his lawsuit that he did visit Michael in New York and they were invited to attend the Phantom of Opera there (there is a photo of him with MJ and Lisa Minelli at the theater, dated March 9-11 according to different accounts).
    • Further in the complaint Safechuck claims the alleged abuse began in summer 1988 when they were on a tour and then says that in February 1989 Michael flew him to New York where “he performed at Grammy’s” and where the alleged abuse “continued”.
    • In their letter to HBO MJ Estate lawyers pointed out that Michael did not perform at Grammy’s in 1989 at all. However he did perform in March 1988 and the Grammy Awards ceremony was indeed in New York.
    • But the alleged abuse could not “continue” in New York because according to another paragraph in Safechuck’s story in March 1988 it had not even started yet.

    So this Speed Demon picture from MJ’s trailer in March 1988 perfectly fits the real timeline of events. And it certainly does not fit Dan Reed’s false account of the same as he uses this absolutely innocent picture to illustrate the alleged “abuse” in Paris.

    Reed liked it because it shows both of them sitting on a bed – but in MJ’s case (as we’ve seen on many other occasions) it doesn’t mean anything at all. Michael allowed everybody to sit on his bed and the very first time he saw these people – the same was with Joy Robson and little Wade Robson when they first met MJ in Autralia, the same was with scriptwriter Darlene Craviotto who came into his condo the first time, the same was with his doctor Van Valen with whom they watched videos on the bed and everybody else. Michael used his bed as others use a chair in a similar situation.

    Michael wasn’t asocial – he simply didn’t mind others occupying his bed and didn’t know the accepted social rules of “proper” behavior.

    So thank you very much for that Speed Demon clarification. It adds a lot to our understanding of MJ’s ways (and is another proof that Dan Reed is a fraud).

    I’ve now corrected the text of the post to incorporate this new piece of information there.

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  36. April 1, 2019 5:18 am

    Crista’s great pictures have been moved here (and into the post):


  37. Poly permalink
    March 31, 2019 7:55 pm

    okay… I found out that his outfit apparently match the ‘chase scene’ and according to this book it was filmed at warner studios-L.A in March 1988

    This is before any alleged act claimed by Safechuck. Anyway, the point was just to say it was not at Safechuck’s house.


  38. louissy permalink
    March 31, 2019 4:04 pm

    Ooooohh yes, thank you soo much, I ❤️ YOU ✌️


  39. March 31, 2019 2:42 pm

    “there was man who was “Michael” and he played him they even show him without nose”- louissy

    Oh, now I know what you are talking about – it was Victor Gutierrez’s program on Chilean TV that aired at the time when Michael was not even yet buried. Gutierrez made the nastiest possible mockery of MJ there episode after episode. Here is the post:

    As to the screenshots of those programs I’ve documented them all (in case you need them).
    A sample screenshot:


  40. March 31, 2019 2:30 pm

    “Then that footage is from the filming of Speed Demon in Michael’s trailer and the pictures with James are from another day.” -Poly

    Poly, I’ve now found information that confirms your version that the photo was made while filming Speed Demon (and not Bad as I thought before). I see that in both Bad and Speed Demon Michael wears a similar costume, but the Speed Demon outfit suits the photo with Safechuck better (MJ has rings on his belt, a white T-shirt, etc).

    The only problem here is that we don’t know exactly when Speed Demon was filmed. It was part of Moonwalker, and Moonwalker is a string of several videos that where shot intermittently for 2 years. The film was released on October 29, 1988, so the filming must have started in the fall of 1986.

    This timing would also perfectly allow for Safechuck to come to Michael’s trailer in December 1986, but since we don’t know when exactly Speed Demon was filmed let us reserve our judgment until the moment we find it out. If anyone has contacts with Karen Faye she will probably recall what video they were making when Safechuck visited Michael in that trailer.

    Here is proof that Moonwalker was made intermittently over the course of 2 years:

    Speed Demon was filmed at Universal Studios, CA. Part of the footage was made in Portland, Oregon.

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  41. louissy permalink
    March 31, 2019 1:54 pm

    Sorry maybe I wrong described but there was man who was “Michael” and he played him they even show him without nouse or break nose, maybe you remember this ✨


  42. March 31, 2019 1:20 pm

    “please can you send me your article I really want to read it badly, about how Mj was bullied by abroad program in very early days of his death” – louissy

    Louissy, I don’t know what article you are talking about but I have two posts about the Autopsy program that was shown on British TV in January 2014. They were extremely disrespectful and propagated Murray’s lies.
    Here they are:


  43. Poly permalink
    March 31, 2019 12:50 pm

    great, helena!!! i was confused trying to discover if it was the same day.
    Then that footage is from the filming of Speed Demon in Michael’s trailer and the pictures with James are from another day. Thanks 🙂


  44. Mira86 permalink
    March 31, 2019 12:32 pm

    These transcripts are so great, thank you for doing this!


  45. March 31, 2019 12:28 pm

    “it is michael’s dressing room as we can see in this video.” – Poly

    Poly, I think you are right, thank you. The curtains on the window are exactly the same. I assume that it is Michael’s trailer, but the photo was taken not when filming the Speed Demon, but when filming the Bad video in November 1986. I’ve read that the video took 6 weeks in the making, so timewise it would coincide with making Pepsi commercial together with Safechuck in December 1986.

    And I recall Safechuck’s mother saying that her son once went to Michael’s trailer. Karen Faye told her that he was like a 14-year old kid, and this made her feel ‘comfortable’.
    Most probably the photo was made during that short Safechuck’s interaction with Michael in that trailer (?).

    Look at this photo from the set of making the Bad video and MJ’s outfit:

    And here is another shot from “Leaving Neverland” at mark 42:57 of the film:

    The outfit is the same.

    And Safechuck also looks here the way he looked in that Pepsi commercial:

    So all in all it seems to me that the photo was made in MJ’s trailer at the end of 1986, but Dan Reed used it to illustrate “molestation” during Michael’s tour in Paris in 1988.


  46. louissy permalink
    March 31, 2019 11:47 am

    Hey, please can you help me please can you send me your article I really want to read it badly, about how Mj was bullied by abroad program during his death, in very early days of his death
    I will be so grateful for it❤️


  47. Poly permalink
    March 31, 2019 10:33 am

    Helena, when you said here “42:49 (photo of MJ and Jimmy sitting on a bed in a tiny room which looks like Jimmy’s home)”

    it is michael’s dressing room as we can see in this video.

    You can see that bed here

    And the kitchen stuff in the beginning of the video is all the same


  48. March 31, 2019 7:26 am

    Thank you Susanne. Here is one more very good documentary, published on March 30 by Liam McEwan.

    Liam McEwan speaks to Brandi Jackson, Brad Sundberg, Scott Ross, Taj Jackson and Charles Thomson. Among many other things Taj Jackson shows messages sent to him and his brothers as words of encouragement and signed “Uncle Doo Doo” (the same Doo Doo as in the faxes to Robson).

    And Brad Sundberg notes that people make much of Michael having a lock on his bedroom door and says: “But this was his bedroom. I also have a lock on my bedroom.” In connection with this particular post the detail about the lock is important, because it makes Safechuck’s lies about hiding in a closet and closing two more doors inside Michael’s bedroom quarters even more ridiculous.

    In short this mini documentary is a very good summary of some key points never mentioned in that Leaving Neverland fake.

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  49. Brandon Penny permalink
    March 31, 2019 6:40 am

    You should review this page about Neverland with hundreds of historic and many rare pics –

    and other threads on this page


  50. susannerb permalink
    March 31, 2019 6:35 am

    I just want to let everybody know that the documentary “Leaving Neverland: Take Two”, against which the distributors of “Leaving Neverland” filed a copyright strike, is back on YT:



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